IRC log for #koha, 2016-07-21

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00:00 dcook @later tell eythian Can we chat about Perl next time you're around?
00:00 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded.
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00:27 dcook Nothing like a good red herring to have you looking at the wrong place for dependencies...
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04:34 dcook One of my most favourite things about open source? You find yourself with a problem, and you're able to find the source of someone smarter than you who resolved that problem already.
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06:51 reiveune hello
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06:55 alex_a bonjour
06:55 wahanui what's up, alex_a
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06:57 morgane hi !
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06:58 gaetan_B hello
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07:18 petter morning koha
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07:22 fridolin hie there
07:23 petter Anyone has som good recommondations for Koha development setup? Specifically, I'm interested in remote debugging
07:24 petter Has anyone tried this?
07:24 petter plugin for intellij
07:25 petter not an officially supported pluing, but seems very active, and seems to have a decent debugging story:[…]iki/Perl-Debugger
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07:28 cait petter: kohadevbox seems used a lot these days
07:28 cait kohadevbox?
07:28 wahanui kohadevbox is at
07:28 cait or a classic git installation
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07:30 marcelr hi #koha
07:31 cait hi marcelr )
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07:33 petter yes, kohadevbox is good for setup
07:34 petter but does't have anything wrt debugging
07:34 petter setting breakpoint, inspecting variables, stepping in and out of functions etc..
07:35 petter Anyway, I'll give that Intellij plugin a spin, I'll let you know how it goes!
07:37 petter If anyone has some other experience with IDE integrations I'm interested to hear
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07:40 ashimema I use vim ;)
07:40 ashimema https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]/Debugging_in_VIM
07:41 ashimema always worked a charm for me
07:41 ashimema petter ^
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07:43 LibraryClaire morning #koha
07:45 petter thanks!
07:48 ashimema morning #koha
07:48 ashimema man I need to come back to koha.. I've missed it..
07:49 ashimema only another two months of migrations to go.. light at the end of the tunnely
07:49 marcelr hi LibraryClaire and ashimema
07:49 ashimema s/tunnely/tunnel finally/
07:49 marcelr tunnely++
07:49 LibraryClaire hi marcelr
07:50 LibraryClaire hi ashimema
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08:00 marcelr cait: one of our catalogers spotted your Koha article with a rijks opac image
08:02 cait oohsorry
08:03 cait i was waiting for the electronic version to beonline - and then forgot
08:03 marcelr no sorry, i knew about it
08:03 marcelr but now we saw it
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08:03 mveron Hi #koha
08:03 marcelr hi mveron
08:04 mveron hi marcelr, hoe is het ermee?
08:04 marcelr prima en met jou dan?
08:04 mveron goed. ik ben net Nescio aan het lezen :-)
08:07 mveron @wunder Allschwil
08:07 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 23.0°C (10:00 AM CEST on July 21, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
08:08 * mveron will keep windows closed (not on the computer...)
08:14 LibraryClaire @wunder LCY
08:14 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London City, United Kingdom is 18.0°C (8:50 AM BST on July 21, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
08:14 LibraryClaire practically winter compared to the last few days!
08:18 cait marcelr: did you find the online version already?
08:19 marcelr no
08:19 cait we got permissiont o put the pdf on our website
08:19 marcelr ok thx
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08:46 mveron cait++ for Koha text in AKMB News :-)
08:46 mveron ...and hi cait :-)
08:52 eythian hi
08:52 wahanui niihau, eythian
08:52 eythian @later tell dcook sure!
08:52 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded.
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08:57 LibraryClaire hi eythian
09:05 cait hi mveron :)
09:06 cait marcelr++ for helping me with it
09:06 mveron :-)
09:08 eythian hello LibraryClaire, cait, mveron
09:08 * LibraryClaire waves
09:08 * mveron waves as well
09:09 mveron Hmm, is Bug 16941 a blocker?
09:09 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16941 critical, P5 - low, ---, veron, Signed Off , Can not add new patron in staff client
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09:13 Joubu mveron: I am gonna have a look in a bit
09:13 mveron Joubu: Ok, thanks :-)
09:21 Joubu LibraryClaire: about bug 16507, you need to install the module: sudo apt-get install libwww-youtube-download-perl
09:21 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16507 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleishaamohia, Needs Signoff , show play media tab first
09:22 LibraryClaire Joubu: aaah thanks! :)
09:29 LibraryClaire Joubu++
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09:40 akawa hello #koha!
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10:06 petter ashimema: thanks to your debbuing in VIM instructions I got remote debugging to work with Intellij! sweet :)
10:08 petter s/debbuing/debugging/
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10:48 Penggu hi all. can anyone point me to something that talks about koha 16 vs 3x - i.e. are they parallel versions, or completely different (forks?). There's just a bit "16 released" thing on the website, whereas there are newer 3x versions in the download area
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10:50 Penggu or like, why would somebody use v15 vs 3.22 (besides the sexy higher number)
10:50 Penggu s/15/16/
10:59 akawa is there any wiki - how to page for biblio-authority linking? whats the pre-configuration that i have to do?
11:00 LibraryClaire Penggu, 16.05.xx is the latest release. The version numbering was changed to be date based (it was released in May 2016)
11:01 Penggu ah right. that's a nice change.
11:03 Penggu so the 3.x branch is transitioning into maintenance mode? i noticed a lot of parallel bug fix commits in git
11:04 Penggu hey wow.. we're running didn't even notice.
11:04 Penggu (except for a sql strict bug for which i had to change some mysql settings)
11:09 Penggu 'nyhow, thank you Claire
11:09 Penggu bye all
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11:28 Joubu akawa: search for in the manual
11:28 Joubu manual?
11:28 wahanui manual is at
11:39 akawa Joubu: I tried this script but i got no result. I think that i have to change the Links at Marc Structure. Is it correct?
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12:43 tcohen morning
12:43 cait morning tcohen :)
12:47 LibraryClaire hi tcohen
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13:38 oleonard Hi #koha
13:38 nengard howdy
13:41 LibraryClaire hi oleonard
13:41 oleonard Hi nengard and LibraryClaire
13:48 oleonard mveron: Did you clear your browser cache before testing Bug 15975?
13:48 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15975 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Failed QA , Add Owning Library Column to Checkouts
13:49 mveron oleonard: I will try again
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14:00 mveron oleonard: Works now, mea culpa. Will sign off.
14:03 mveron @wunder Allschwil
14:03 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Grenchen, Switzerland is 24.0°C (3:50 PM CEST on July 21, 2016). Conditions: Light Thunderstorms and Rain. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
14:04 mveron Hmm, it feels hotter.
14:04 oleonard cait or khall awake?
14:04 cait same here
14:04 cait @wunder Konstanz
14:04 khall oleonard: yo
14:04 huginn cait: The current temperature in Friedrichshafen, Germany is 25.0°C (3:50 PM CEST on July 21, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
14:04 cait oleonard: um... no? :)
14:04 oleonard This git bz command works except for adding the [STATUS] to the first line of the comment. https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]_tricks#git_qa2_N
14:04 oleonard Do either of you know why?
14:04 cait hm i am using git qa2
14:04 khall which one, the "so"?
14:04 cait but i haven't written it
14:05 cait just added my own email :)
14:05 cait how are you using it?
14:05 oleonard khall: The qa2 one.
14:05 khall ah, that makes sense.
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14:06 oleonard I wanted to modify it to use for signing off
14:06 * khall was up in the middle of the night rocking a baby
14:06 oleonard ...and adding [SIGNED-OFF]
14:06 khall oleonard: one sec
14:06 khall so = "!f() { c=`expr $1 - 1`; git filter-branch -f --msg-filter \"echo -n \\\"[SIGNED-OFF] \\\" && cat && echo \\\"\nSigned-off-by: Kyle M Hall <>\\\"\" HEAD~$c^..; }; f"
14:06 khall try that, you might want to change the name of course ; )
14:07 khall oleonard: that alias you use like: git so 3
14:07 khall where 3 is the number of patches to sign off
14:08 cait it's awesome
14:08 * cait highly recommends
14:08 khall pretty much the same alias, but maybe mine has come magic juju or something
14:10 oleonard Weird, that's exactly what I have (with my details)
14:10 oleonard But no "[SIGNED-OFF]"
14:10 cait do you want to share yours?
14:11 cait maybe we can spot something
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14:19 oleonard Never mind khall and cait, I had conflicting config files
14:19 oleonard It's working correctly
14:19 khall ah!
14:19 khall excellent!
14:19 * oleonard retroactively signs off on 500 patches
14:19 khall lol
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14:32 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
14:33 mtompset @seen marcelr
14:33 huginn mtompset: marcelr was last seen in #koha 6 hours, 13 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <marcelr> ok thx
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14:35 tcohen @seen khall
14:35 huginn tcohen: khall was last seen in #koha 15 minutes and 56 seconds ago: <khall> lol
14:35 khall 'sup?
14:37 tcohen you mentioned we could improve kohadevbox somehow
14:37 tcohen can't remember what was it
14:37 tcohen can i fill a issue once you remember?
14:38 tcohen
14:38 tcohen was it enabling the REST api to ease development?
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15:10 reiveune bye
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15:29 mtompset Have a great day, #koha
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16:15 AlMiGa hey everyone
16:15 wahanui somebody said everyone was doin' the hot new dance the Cracked Out Kitty Tail Shiver
16:16 cait Hi AlMiGa
16:17 AlMiGa I was wondering if I could get help with a weird problem. Whenever I click on the date of birth field in the new patrons form the calendar opens but I cant scroll though the months or years \
16:18 AlMiGa I have ot select a year then the months will show up but to go further back I have to keep clicking on and earlier year in the list. This happens on both firefox an chrome
16:19 cait which version of koha are you using?
16:19 cait i think this might be a bug fixed in newer vresions
16:20 AlMiGa 3.22.04
16:21 cait hm it might be too old
16:22 cait one sec
16:23 cait https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=12342
16:23 huginn Bug 12342: minor, P5 - low, ---, xarragon, Pushed to Master , Patron registration datepicker dropdown shows only 10 years
16:23 cait could it be htis?
16:23 cait seems only available in 15.06
16:24 Joubu 16.05 :)
16:25 oleonard AlMiGa: Do you mean you can't switch months by clicking the arrow buttons?
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16:27 cait oops, thx Joubu
16:28 AlMiGa oleonard no, I can use the arrows
16:29 kidclamp has anyone encountered issues with searches containing single characters?
16:30 oleonard I just checked out version 3.22.04 in my test system and didn't see any problem with it. Do you have any custom JS in your intranetuserjs system preference AlMiGa ?
16:30 AlMiGa it's like huginn says
16:30 nengard kidclamp i was gonna say our partners have ... but then I saw it was you asking
16:30 oleonard AlMiGa: That bug matches your problem?
16:30 kidclamp hah
16:31 AlMiGa yes it does
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17:33 pianohacker mtompsett++
17:33 haloysious Hello Koha, is this the place to ask general questions, or is there a forum somewhere to which I should post?
17:34 oleonard haloysious: Ask away.
17:34 haloysious So my question is regarding ebooks, is there an option to allow a user to download the ebook at checkout?
17:35 haloysious From looking at the documentation, the site supports ebooks, but I can't find anywhere if you can host the ebook on the same server as Koha
17:35 oleonard haloysious: Koha doesn't have any functionality related to storing and checking out electronic materials
17:35 haloysious Ah, thank you
17:35 oleonard You can store records for electronic materials, but the records have to link to a resource stored elsewhere
17:37 haloysious that makes sense, thank you for the quick reply
17:37 kidclamp oleonard can you take a look at bug 16951
17:37 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16951 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Item search sorting not working properly for most columns
17:37 kidclamp I think datatables upgrade broke sorting here
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17:42 oleonard kidclamp: Did you git bisect?
17:43 kidclamp I have not yet, but I went through the logs for the script and didn't see changes there, the calls to the datatables api aren't returnning the expected values
17:44 kidclamp fairly certain it is the issue and I think khall pointed me to the right place,just didn't know if you knew the api top of the head enough to say, oh, we should look at this parameter
17:44 oleonard No I don't
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18:00 nuentoter does anyone know where i can get a copy of the blank patron csv file? I dont see it anywhere online, and I do not have access to the server for right now but finally got our patron records straightened out enough to start importing
18:01 eythian nuentoter: have a look on a demo Koha installation
18:01 nuentoter aahhaaa didnt think of that
18:01 nuentoter thank you
18:03 eythian NP :-)
18:17 Joubu nuentoter: be careful the fields change from one Koha version to the other
18:18 nuentoter I've got one thats the same version now, TY though
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18:29 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argnetina
18:29 huginn tcohen: Error: No such location could be found.
18:29 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
18:29 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 18.1°C (3:24 PM ART on July 21, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.13 in 1020 hPa (Falling).
18:29 AlMiGa So what will I have to do to fix the date widget problem?
18:48 oleonard AlMiGa: Either upgrade or make manual changes to your system following the changes in the bug report
18:49 eythian @wunder ams
18:49 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 20.2°C (8:45 PM CEST on July 21, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
18:49 oleonard @wunder 45701
18:49 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Longview Hts, Athens, Ohio is 37.5°C (2:49 PM EDT on July 21, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 34%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Falling).
18:50 oleonard Bleah.
18:57 oleonard It would be great it Bug 16942 moved along
18:57 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16942 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Confirm hold results in ugly error
18:59 tcohen is it me or master doesn't let adding patrons?
19:05 kidclamp yeah Joubu, I did wonder about that
19:14 tcohen @later tell Joubu somehow the patron adding form is not saving new patrons after your refactoring patches. My bisect told me this but it doesn't seem right. I missed something on bisecting.
19:14 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
19:16 tcohen @later tell drojf koha-common (master) is not pulling libcache-memcached-perl and so Koha booms on kohadevbox
19:16 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
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19:29 Joubu @later tell tcohen see bug 16941
19:29 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
19:29 nuentoter is there any way to get an alert when someone places an online hold on a book? Kind of like when you have tags or comments awaiting aproval.
19:35 Joubu nuentoter: see system preference emailLibrarianWhenHoldIsPlaced
19:36 nuentoter i know that but im talking about a notification on the staff client, below the large buttons on the main screen.
19:38 Joubu nuentoter: I do not understand, you want to see the list of items on holds?
19:39 nuentoter just a notification like "there are holds pending", koha already does this if you have tag approval on, when you log in you see a "there are tags awaiting approval" just below the main screen quick buttons
19:50 Joubu nuentoter: no, there is no such alert displayed on the main page
19:51 nuentoter i thought there was and i was just missing an option somewhere thank you sir!
19:52 mveron Good night / daytime #koha
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