IRC log for #koha, 2016-06-21

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06:39 reiveune hello
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06:44 drojf morning #koha
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06:58 mveron Good morning / daytime #koha
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07:43 LibraryClaire morning #koha
07:44 ashimema morning LibraryClaire
07:44 ashimema morning #koha
07:45 LibraryClaire hey ashimema :)
07:45 eythian hi
07:45 eythian wahanui: you are too quiet this morning
07:45 wahanui ...but wahanui is a bot|a repository of important and useful and accurate information or at least partially slow.|a little bit creepy.|right sometimes|a strange duck|a bot...|rumoured to be a sentient bot with sass|<reply> an extremely creepy stalker bot.... you have been warned|a parrot|<reply> wrong|<reply> on fire|<reply> gaining knowledge faster than sustainable|canadian|google|<reply> wahanui couldn't be bothered to show up|laser kiwi of the bo
07:50 LibraryClaire laser kiwi of the bo?
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07:53 eythian it's truncated
07:54 eythian I'm not sure what it's supposed to say
07:54 eythian wahanui: wahanui
07:54 wahanui i think i am a bot
07:54 eythian wahanui: wahanui
07:54 wahanui somebody said i was married to
07:54 eythian wahanui: wahanui
07:54 wahanui i am facebook
07:54 eythian wahanui: wahanui
07:54 wahanui facebook
07:54 eythian wahanui: wahanui
07:54 wahanui i am a repository of important and useful and accurate information or at least partially slow.
07:54 eythian wahanui: wahanui
07:54 wahanui wrong
07:54 eythian wahanui: wahanui
07:54 wahanui hmmm... i am right sometimes
07:54 eythian wahanui: wahanui
07:54 wahanui i am google
07:54 eythian wahanui: wahanui
07:54 wahanui hmmm... i am a strange duck
07:54 eythian and so on
07:59 cait eythian: are you torturing the bot again?
08:01 LibraryClaire lol
08:01 LibraryClaire poor wahanui
08:01 wahanui Will he ever win?
08:01 LibraryClaire :D
08:01 LibraryClaire hi cait :)
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08:02 * Oak waves
08:02 Oak magnuse
08:02 Oak hello cait
08:03 eythian wahanui: poor wahanui is <reply>I'm so sad
08:03 wahanui ...but poor wahanui is <reply>Will he ever win?...
08:03 eythian wahanui: poor wahanui is also <reply>I'm so sad
08:03 wahanui okay, eythian.
08:04 LibraryClaire poor wahanui
08:04 wahanui I'm so sad
08:04 LibraryClaire :(
08:05 * LibraryClaire stops playing with the bot
08:08 ashimema we love wahanui really
08:09 LibraryClaire :)
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09:29 * magnuse waves at Oak and everyone else
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09:34 LibraryClaire hi magnuse
09:34 cait heh greedy
09:35 magnuse oops
09:38 * mveron waves to everybody and goes to lunch
09:40 * magnuse needs lunch too
10:05 eythian magnuse: only a 4.4
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10:52 drojf jajm: around
10:53 drojf ?
10:58 jajm drojf, it's lunch time here, i'll be there in 1h
10:59 drojf ok thanks
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11:44 oleonard We don't have a 3.18.x release maintainer do we?
11:45 oleonard Is it standard procedure to remove versions from the bug reporting form when they are no longer maintained?
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11:50 jajm drojf, back
11:58 drojf jajm: could you have a quick look at https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]g.cgi?id=16647#c8 please? is it correct that the dependency is not needed in 3.22.x?
11:58 huginn` Bug 16647: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Update debian/control for 16.*
12:07 jajm drojf, i believe it's not a direct dependency, do you know which package depends on it ?
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12:17 drojf jajm: i think it appears in automatic tests for Koha::REST::V1. i am resizing the packaging VM at the moment, i will check later
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12:20 jajm drojf, does it fail on jessie ?
12:22 drojf jajm: the packaging pbuilder environment is wheezy
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12:23 drojf it works if i exlude it from tests as we do with other things, but i want to be sure that it's not needed before i do that
12:23 tcohen morning
12:24 LibraryClaire hi tcohen
12:24 tcohen hi LibraryClaire
12:25 drojf hi tcohen
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12:52 pastebot "drojf" at pasted "Failed test 'use Koha::REST::V1;'" (25 lines) at
12:53 drojf jajm: ^
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13:06 jajm drojf, i tried to remove completely IO::Socket::IP from my VM, the API code fails (error 500), if I reinstall it, API works, so... it seems that this package is required
13:09 jajm drojf, libmojolicious-perl depends on libio-socket-io-perl, OR perl >= 5.19, i have Perl 5.20, so it should not be needed, maybe an error in the mojolicious package ?
13:09 eythian IO::Socket stuff made it into core around 5.19 IIRC
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13:11 drojf wheezy has 5.14
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13:28 drojf hmm. when i run debian/update-control on 3.22.x, i get a million eeks. that does not seem right
13:30 magnuse sounds like one too many
13:31 drojf exactly!
13:33 drojf 999.999 bottles of EEEK on the wall, 999.999 bottles of EEEK. add one more, looks like an error, a million bottles of EEEK can't be right
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13:34 oleonard "I got 999,999 problems and in fact debian/update-control is all of them"
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13:47 eythian drojf: apt-file update?\
13:48 drojf eythian: i have to run update-control in pbuilder, right? i ran it outside. what is missing is stuff from the koha repo (which is only in pbuilder)
13:48 drojf as far as i can tell
13:48 eythian oh right
13:48 eythian that'd make sense then
13:49 eythian yeah, run it inside pbuilder so your local environment doesn't get in the way
13:49 drojf related question, when i do packages, should i change the koha repo in pbuilder depending on the branch i build? (stable, oldstable)
13:51 eythian I don't
13:51 eythian I try to keep no difference between the repos, aside from koha itself
13:51 drojf ah ok. it looked like we have different swagger versions depending on the pocket
13:52 eythian that's not ideal
13:52 eythian unless it's required
13:52 drojf maybe its not true either, i only just rsynced the repo to my notebook and started looking. may be misunderstanding on my side
13:53 eythian reprepro list
13:54 drojf ok, no eeks now, thats a relief ;)
13:56 drojf i was right
13:57 drojf reprepro list stable | grep swagger
13:57 drojf squeeze|main|i386: libswagger2-perl 0.77-1~koha1
13:57 drojf reprepro list oldstable | grep swagger
13:57 drojf oldstable|main|i386: libswagger2-perl 0.31-1~kohaoldstable1
13:57 eythian yeah, it might be that that's necessary for some reason, but I'd check it out
13:58 eythian possible that it was necessary, isn't any more
13:59 drojf i think its rather new. bug 15126
13:59 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15126 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , REST API: Use newer version of Swagger2
14:06 drojf eythian: if i get no eeeks, but changes in the file, do i care?
14:06 drojf the control file that is
14:06 eythian probably.
14:06 eythian it's probably a thing to commit
14:06 drojf ok
14:06 eythian depending on what the differences are
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14:06 drojf a few additions and a change
14:06 drojf - apache2-mpm-itk,
14:06 drojf + apache2-mpm-itk | libapache2-mpm-itk,
14:06 eythian generally it just means that the version in git is older than the dependency declarations
14:06 eythian oh
14:06 eythian you really want that.
14:07 eythian that's needed for newer ubuntu I think
14:07 drojf ok
14:15 tcohen kidclamp: around?
14:15 kidclamp :-)
14:15 tcohen your comment about 'item holding branch'
14:15 tcohen did u check it?
14:16 tcohen i cannot reproduce
14:17 eythian wahanui: cannot reproduce is
14:17 wahanui OK, eythian.
14:38 kidclamp hah
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14:47 koha Hello, We are upgrading to Koha 16.05 and receives this error... "Upgrading database schema for testlibrary  DBI connect('database=koha_testlibrary;host=lo​calhost;port=3306','koha_testlibrary',...) failed: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) at /usr/share/perl5/DBIx/Class/Storage/ line 1487.  DBIx::Class::Storage::DBI::catch {...} (): DBI Connection failed: Can't connect to local MySQL server through
14:48 koha DBIx::Class::Storage::DBI::catch {...} (): DBI Connection failed: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) at /usr/share/perl5/DBIx/Class/Storage/ line 1490. at /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/ line 90
14:48 koha dpkg: error processing package koha-common (--configure):  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 255" any ideas how to fix are welcomed
14:48 drojf your mysql server is not running. at least it looks that way
14:50 koha Ok thanks. Perhaps it has been shut down when upgrading the server components..
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15:11 cbrannon Just filed bug 16789
15:11 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16789 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , ReturnToShelvingCart should utilize a different field
15:13 kidclamp cbrannon the original shelving location is store in items.permanent_location and can be utilised in report
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15:25 cbrannon kidclamp: but it can't be seen in the record, or am I missing something.
15:25 kidclamp true, it doesn't show, but was addressing the reporting point if you use shelving cart
15:26 cbrannon So, how is the temp location being displayed?  Is it in another field?
15:26 kidclamp temp location is stored in items.location
15:28 kidclamp permanent_location and location will always match except when item location is  'PROC' or 'CART'
15:28 cbrannon know, I see the descriptions, but we've got some crossover on terms that need to be straightened out.  CART has two meanings in Koha.  Permanent location has two meanings in Koha.
15:28 kidclamp you aren't wrong
15:29 cbrannon So, I should go through all our reports and change location references to permanent_location.
15:29 cbrannon :/
15:29 cbrannon That will be fun.
15:34 kidclamp well, depends on the report and how often the cart to shelf job runs
15:35 kidclamp statistics for a day ago should be fine
15:35 kidclamp for finding an item right now it miatters
15:36 cbrannon Yep.  Up until now (since we just turned the feature on), it was moot.  Now it will skew reports.  The joys of new things.  :)
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15:52 cait oleonard++ :)
15:53 reiveune bye
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15:59 cbrannon kidclamp: so we've got over 82,000 items that don't have ANYTHING in the permanent_location field.  When do these fields get populated?  Do we need to have something run to update these records?
16:02 cait cbrannon: there is a bug in that it doesn't or didn't? get populated by the import
16:02 bag morning
16:06 cbrannon cait: bug #?
16:06 wahanui bug # is there
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16:06 * oleonard asks everyone to please test bugs in master before reporting them with a specific version number
16:07 cait not sure there is one
16:07 cait oleonard: guilty - thx for resteing the bug about moderated comments
16:07 cbrannon cait: didn't you say there is a bug?
16:08 * oleonard discovered when preparing to test the comments bug
16:08 MauricioBR helo everyone, I recently installed Koha-common in ubuntu server 16 and i have an error when trying to create a patron category, the message is "An error occurred when inserting this patron category. The patron category might already exist." but my database is empty, no examples, anything. Please help is the second time that i install koha. Sorry my bad english
16:09 cait oleonard: so that's a good thing,... right?
16:10 cait MauricioBR: please don't use the newest ubuntu right now or downgrade your mysql
16:10 cait or... dunno
16:10 cait there is a problem with the new mysql -noted in the release notes
16:10 MauricioBR perfect i'll check the notes now... thankyou!
16:10 MauricioBR (y)
16:17 cait MauricioBR: we are workingon fixing it - some bugs are already logged on bugzilla and need testing
16:17 cait if you want to give that a try
16:18 MauricioBR thankyou cait
16:19 MauricioBR and what is the last stable version that you recommend for production environment?
16:20 oleonard Went through most of the 3.18.x bugs. There are still 47 3.16.x bugs, 41 3.14.x bugs, 19 3.12.x bugs, and 6 3.10.x bugs.
16:21 cbrannon oleonard: is that good or bad?
16:21 MauricioBR I see, and wich MySQL version?
16:21 MauricioBR with 3.10???
16:21 oleonard 16 for 3.8.x. 14 for 3.6.x. 10 for 3.4.x.
16:22 oleonard cbrannon: It's bad. Bugs which still are valid for master should be marked as 'master.' Bugs which are fixed in newer versions should be closed because older versions are unmaintained.
16:23 MauricioBR Thanks for the information
16:23 cbrannon oleonard: sounds like we have a bit of verification to do :/
16:23 cait MauricioBR: i know it worked well on ubuntu's last lts
16:23 oleonard MauricioBR: My comments are not directed at you. I'm talking about something else.
16:23 cait not sure what the best mysql version is
16:25 MauricioBR ho i see. but anyway thanks because it gives me an idea about the bugs on different version... i fact that helpme to chosse wich version install...
16:25 MauricioBR :)
16:31 eythian I wouldn't trust that as data, given its not kept up to date.
16:34 cait eythian: hm?
16:34 cait MauricioBR: Please note – Ubuntu 16.04 support is still WIP and isn’t supported at  the moment, due to stricter MySQL version 5.7. All installs and updates  should be done on versions previous to MySQL 5.7.
16:34 cait
16:34 oleonard I wonder if we should have a procedure for enhancement bugs which have Failed QA or non-applying patches on them: Mark WONTFIX if untouched for X number of days?
16:34 cait often they are still much wanted features
16:35 cait more worried about the actual bugs - i think there are around 900 open
16:35 oleonard I think Bug 5523 isn't going to get a new patch after 6 years.
16:35 huginn` Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5523 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kohapatch, Failed QA , Display list of items which are to be cataloged in the cataloguing home page.
16:35 cait maybe reset to NEW? hm reassign to noone
16:35 eythian cait: that's what oleonard was pointing out, reverification isn't happening so it's not necessarily trustworthy (at least, that's what I took from it.)
16:36 cait ah, thought you were talking about mysql :)
16:36 eythian cait: reassign to Peter Noone?
16:36 oleonard cait: Yes, I think NEW is better.
16:36 cait and remove assignee
16:36 cait for the real oldones
16:36 cait if th person is still interested - i think they should get an email then?
16:37 eythian Didn't know you were into 60's pop
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20:56 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16747 - Patron card creator broken with version 16.05 <[…]d9f4c63c38a2f7e24>
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21:02 debclair hey there, quick question, how do I access the rest services? I have tried a couple urls and nothing works
21:04 rangi which rest services? the ils-di ones? or the ones in /svc/ or the new ones?  .. what urls did you try?
21:04 drojf …on what version of koha
21:05 bag they aren’t default to being on - with the new ones - you’ve got to start them
21:08 debclair Koha version
21:09 debclair the "new rest api" section of the community doc mentions urls like /rest/v1/ and so on
21:09 rangi not for 3.16 it doesnt :-)
21:10 cait 3.16 is pretty old now
21:10 cait 3.18 - 3.20 - 3.22 - 16.05 released since
21:11 debclair wow, you're right, I just checked my new instance in my computer vs the one in the company's server and I got version 16
21:11 rangi the original 3.16.00 was released 2 years ago (new features arent added to stable releases, so even tho you have 3.16.04 which is only 20 months old .. it has no new features since 2 years) i think 3.22 (or even 16.05) was the first release with the new rest
21:12 rangi and yep bag is right, you need to start them, they aren't on by default
21:12 debclair what should I search for to get them started?
21:13 cait debclair: they don't exist in 3.16
21:14 cait i think 3.22 - but many more routes in 16.05 - only the base in 3.22
21:22 debclair cait, right, but I got a new instance in my computer I want to play with, so I can later migrate the server instance to this newer version, so I need to know how to enable them
21:23 cait i haven't done it yet - maybe someone else can help - i will listen in too
21:44 talljoy hi cait!
21:44 cait hi talljoy :)
21:44 talljoy hows things?
21:44 wizzyrea hi
21:44 talljoy do you know much about the bib batch modification tool?  i.e. what flavor of regex is uses?  perl flavor?
21:44 talljoy hi wizzyrea
21:44 cait busy but good :)
21:44 talljoy busy is better than bored.
21:45 cait sorry, have to pass there
21:45 talljoy :-D
21:45 cait only know about it in theory
21:45 talljoy me too!
21:45 talljoy i'll start playing with it.
21:45 cait who wrote it?
21:45 talljoy might ask Joubu
21:45 talljoy i think he wrote it
21:45 cait hm yeah maybe
21:47 pianohacker cait!
21:47 pianohacker how are you?
21:47 cait pianohacker!
21:47 wahanui regexes are AWESOME
21:47 pianohacker damn skippy
21:47 cait hehe still busy but good and you?
21:47 talljoy regexes are awesome
21:47 cait very true :)
21:53 pianohacker cait: very busy but good
21:54 cait :)
22:18 talljoy @later tell joubu can marc modification templates use pattern substitutions in the regex?  i.e. s/.+([LP])$/\1/i
22:18 huginn` talljoy: The operation succeeded.
22:23 bag Aloo is barking bbias
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