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mtj |
hey wizzyrea, i dont think there is any other way to fix, other than to drop/create the target db? |
| 01:37 |
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mtj |
ive bumped into the problem myself |
| 01:37 |
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wizzyrea |
blast, I was hoping that there was something tricky to be done. |
| 01:38 |
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mtj |
..it's the same problem you get loading any mysqldump'ed .sql file, (i think) |
| 01:39 |
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mtj |
the tables are dumped to the .sql file, alphabetically |
| 01:39 |
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wizzyrea |
http://stackoverflow.com/quest[…]rce-foreign-key-c |
| 01:39 |
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wizzyrea |
aha |
| 01:39 |
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wizzyrea |
maybe there is something tricky. |
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mtj |
ahh, good point there ^ |
| 01:42 |
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mtj |
hmm, does a koha-dumped file not have the 'FOREIGN_KEY_CHECKS=0' stuff at the top |
| 01:43 |
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wizzyrea |
not sure |
| 01:43 |
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mtj |
... like a general mysqldump'ed file? |
| 01:44 |
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wizzyrea |
yeah they're there |
| 01:44 |
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mtj |
hmm, yep |
| 01:44 |
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wizzyrea |
so it's not that |
| 01:45 |
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mtj |
CREATE DATABASE /*!32312 IF NOT EXISTS*/ `koha_demodev` /*!40100 DEFAULT CHARACTER SET latin1 */; |
| 01:45 |
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mtj |
eww, latin1? ^ |
| 01:46 |
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mtj |
hmm, did i miss some mysql setup on my dev system :/ |
| 01:47 |
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wizzyrea |
well all of the data seems to have utr8 as character set |
| 01:47 |
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wizzyrea |
even if the default is latin1 |
| 01:47 |
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wizzyrea |
f, utf |
| 01:48 |
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mtj |
wtf8.. |
| 01:50 |
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mtj |
but yeah, same here wiz, |
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drojf |
morning |
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marcelr_greece |
hi there |
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wahanui |
salut, marcelr_greece |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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fridolin |
hie there |
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matts |
hi ! |
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drojf |
hello |
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reiveune |
hello |
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eythian |
@later tell aliesha you're on the big screen, btw :) |
| 07:05 |
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huginn |
eythian: The operation succeeded. |
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mveron-away |
Hi #koha |
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* magnuse |
waves again |
| 07:11 |
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magnuse |
@wunder thessaloniki |
| 07:11 |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Thessaloniki, Greece is 24.0°C (9:50 AM EEST on June 01, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Falling). |
| 07:11 |
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magnuse |
oops |
| 07:11 |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 12.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on June 01, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Steady). |
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drojf |
@wunder berlin, germany |
| 07:21 |
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huginn |
drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 18.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on June 01, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:21 |
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drojf |
i will stay |
| 07:21 |
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drojf |
hei magnuse and mveron |
| 07:21 |
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magnuse |
moin drojf |
| 07:22 |
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drojf |
hi eythian |
| 07:22 |
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magnuse |
having fun? |
| 07:22 |
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eythian |
sup |
| 07:22 |
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mveron |
hi all :-) |
| 07:22 |
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drojf |
a little early for fun. but i will once i wake up |
| 07:22 |
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mveron |
Very interesting at the moment... |
| 07:24 |
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magnuse |
gah, looks like mysql was not running when i started apt-get upgrade, and now it's just hanging after the koha updatedatabase failed... |
| 07:24 |
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magnuse |
some of us have to work, y'know ;-) |
| 07:25 |
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drojf |
could you do my work too? |
| 07:26 |
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magnuse |
sure, right after i finish mine ;-) |
| 07:26 |
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drojf |
excellent! |
| 07:26 |
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drojf |
magnuse++ |
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drojf |
hi mape |
| 07:27 |
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mape |
Hello |
| 07:27 |
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wahanui |
hi, mape |
| 07:27 |
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drojf |
no idea who you are but you seem to be at kohacon |
| 07:28 |
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mape |
indeed |
| 07:28 |
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magnuse |
mape++ |
| 07:29 |
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magnuse |
welcome to the #koha channel - this is where we have fun the rest of the year |
| 07:29 |
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drojf |
mape: where are you from? |
| 07:30 |
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mape |
I'm from Sweden, working as an librarian at Luleå University of Technology |
| 07:30 |
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drojf |
ah we spoke briefly yesterday i think |
| 07:30 |
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mape |
Where are you from? |
| 07:30 |
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drojf |
berlin |
| 07:31 |
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* magnuse |
waves from norway |
| 07:33 |
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mape |
you can also have talked to my college Ola, he did the Koha implements at our library |
| 07:33 |
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drojf |
ah you are here with several people? cool |
| 07:34 |
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mape |
yeah, we are 2 from Luleå, but the only ones from Sweden |
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| 07:34 |
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drojf |
guten morgen LibraryClaire |
| 07:34 |
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liw |
mape, god morgon |
| 07:35 |
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mape |
god morgon |
| 07:35 |
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LibraryClaire |
hallo :) |
| 07:35 |
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mape |
where are you from liw? |
| 07:35 |
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liw |
mape, Finland |
| 07:35 |
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drojf |
mape: are you staying for the hackfest? |
| 07:36 |
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mape |
I'm afraid not, but my daughter got birthday and I did't want to miss it |
| 07:36 |
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drojf |
it's funny how many koha-related children have a birthday during this kohacon |
| 07:37 |
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drojf |
soon they are old enough to have their own part of the conference |
| 07:37 |
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mape |
but my colleague will attend |
| 07:37 |
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rangi |
yay im finished |
| 07:37 |
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drojf |
rangi++ |
| 07:38 |
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liw |
. o O (Koha Kids -- adventure and excitement in libraries for children and the whole family!) |
| 07:38 |
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mape |
LittleKoha =) |
| 07:38 |
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drojf |
liw: needs a theme song |
| 07:39 |
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mape |
my kids singing everything from Frost at the moment, any will do =p |
| 07:39 |
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drojf |
liw: do you plan to be around for all hackfest and we see when we do the workshop then, or should we set a day/time before? |
| 07:39 |
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mape |
liw where in Finland? |
| 07:40 |
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* magnuse |
stays at home because of his kid turning 4 today |
| 07:40 |
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liw |
drojf, I'm arriving tomorrow afternoon, at which point I will probably die from heat exhaustion. I'll be around until Sunday morning, at which point I will have repeatedly died from heat exhaustion. I'm loooking at ways to bring small ice bergs in carry-on. |
| 07:40 |
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liw |
mape, Helsinki |
| 07:40 |
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drojf |
liw: the conference place is cool. ;) |
| 07:40 |
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rangi |
we broke that marc hold in 1999 .. then we put it back ;-) |
| 07:40 |
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mape |
it's a nice town, haven't been there for years =) |
| 07:40 |
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drojf |
oh the hackfest is somewhere else, but i suppose it will be too |
| 07:40 |
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rangi |
i think in the library itself drojf |
| 07:41 |
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drojf |
yep |
| 07:41 |
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mape |
yeah but you get a check then you walk outside |
| 07:41 |
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mape |
chock |
| 07:41 |
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magnuse |
wow, git clone is taking like forever on this server |
| 07:43 |
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drojf |
liw: but i meant if you plan to hang around with the koha people all the time or see something else too ;) |
| 07:46 |
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liw |
drojf, ah, no plans either way, but I would love to sit in a cool, quiet bar or restaurant and talk about the wonders of the world |
| 07:46 |
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drojf |
the cool part may be a problem :D |
| 07:48 |
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mape |
bring lots of ice? |
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drojf |
LibraryClaire: are you using the web chat thing to get here? |
| 07:58 |
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LibraryClaire |
yeah... :/ |
| 07:58 |
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LibraryClaire |
need admin access to this pc to get a client |
| 07:59 |
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LibraryClaire |
i normally use a client back home |
| 07:59 |
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drojf |
ah ok. i sent you a private message but that may just not work |
| 07:59 |
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LibraryClaire |
ah i see it |
| 08:02 |
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| 08:03 |
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koha-performanc |
Hello, i;m upgrading system for koha to work with plank, when i install with linux 16.04 i get mysql 5.7 bug, i;have seen that bug had been fixed in koha 3.22.7, how do i get this version if im installing with packages from - echo deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha stable main | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/koha.list |
| 08:03 |
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koha-performanc |
should it be unstable main? |
| 08:06 |
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davidnind |
koha-performanc: see https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pip[…]-June/045478.html - may help I hope |
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koha-performanc |
bug with linux 16.04 and mysql 5.7 persist after installing koha 3.22.07, just now i got a little different error |
| 08:19 |
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koha-performanc |
Web installer › Step 3 The following error occurred while importing the database structure: [Wed Jun 1 11:17:23 2016] install.pl: DBD::mysql::st execute failed: BLOB, TEXT, GEOMETRY or JSON column 'defaultvalue' can't have a default value at /usr/share/perl5/DBIx/RunSQL.pm line 273. Please contact your system administrator |
| 08:20 |
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koha-performanc |
this was with oldstable main install |
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marcelr_greece |
talljoy++ and pianohacker++ for a great presentation |
| 08:31 |
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talljoy |
thank you marcelr_greece |
| 08:35 |
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magnuse |
kia ora benjamin |
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magnuse |
hooray for making koha metadata format agnostic |
| 08:38 |
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eythian |
koha-performanc: it is not expected to work with ubuntu 16.04 at the moment. |
| 08:39 |
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marcelr_greece |
magnuse: you are not that happy with marc lol |
| 08:40 |
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eythian |
marcelr_greece: $ whois marc-must-die.info | grep -i 'registrant name' |
| 08:40 |
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eythian |
Registrant Name: Magnus Enger |
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marcelr_greece |
:) |
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magnuse |
marcelr_greece: that is true |
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| 08:52 |
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magnuse |
talljoy and pianohacker: have you talked to Rurik/brinxmat yet? OPL will start cataloguing in rdf real soon now |
| 08:52 |
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pianohacker |
magnuse: a little bit. He may be demoing later |
| 08:52 |
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talljoy |
yes, he has been targeted. We will be seeing a demo from him shortly. :-D |
| 08:52 |
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pianohacker |
s/may/WILL/ |
| 08:58 |
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mape |
Anyone know any good, very small and fast linux distro based on debian? |
| 08:59 |
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magnuse |
pianohacker and talljoy: very good! do not let him leave greece before he has explained to you everything they are doing at OPL :-) |
| 09:00 |
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eythian |
mape: debian? |
| 09:00 |
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wahanui |
the operating system equivalent of rangi - straight up open source |
| 09:00 |
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pianohacker |
mape: debian can be trimmed down more than you might think :) |
| 09:00 |
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mape |
true, network install iso was very small |
| 09:00 |
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eythian |
yeah, start there and add the bits you need |
| 09:01 |
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pianohacker |
mape: I did my first few installed leaving the default sets of installed packages, then tried one without them and was amazed at how small the result was |
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| 09:02 |
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koha-perf |
plank doesnt work on ubuntu 14.04, koha is terribly slow - 4-9 secs, then i install 16.04 and you say it's not expeced to work with koha.. this information really should be stated somewhere clearly.. |
| 09:02 |
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koha-perf |
which version of linux is needed to work koha with plank without bugs? |
| 09:02 |
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mape |
ok try a minimal inst. of debian =) |
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bag |
sorry about that Rurik - I really want to see the stuff you prepared. Maybe we end early on one session coming up and can get you in there :) |
| 09:05 |
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pianohacker |
koha-perf: what version is apache now? |
| 09:05 |
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magnuse |
bag: i don't think rurik is on irc? |
| 09:06 |
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bag |
he’s not currently but just saying sorry somewhere magnuse |
| 09:06 |
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bag |
:) |
| 09:06 |
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pianohacker |
koha-perf: we're in an unfortunate position where we need a recent version of apache, but the most recent version of MySQL is a lot more strict |
| 09:06 |
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pianohacker |
so it breaks things :/ |
| 09:07 |
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koha-perf |
Linux 16.04 comes with Apache/2.4.18 (Ubuntu) |
| 09:07 |
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koha-perf |
could there be a temp solution to reduce mysql security to pass all that data or something? |
| 09:09 |
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pianohacker |
koha-perf: you can try setting sql_mode = '' in the mysql server configuration |
| 09:09 |
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pianohacker |
koha-perf: I can't find a good guide, but I think it's /etc/mysql/my.cnf |
| 09:09 |
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pianohacker |
or somewhere close |
| 09:10 |
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koha-perf |
yup, tryging out that just right now |
| 09:10 |
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pianohacker |
mape: why are you looking to slim down debian? |
| 09:12 |
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mape |
need a fest version I can put on a usb drive, so I either can virtualise KoHA och boot from usb. |
| 09:12 |
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pianohacker |
ah, okay |
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| 09:13 |
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mape |
did try a debian xfde install, it worked great in Virtualbox, but a bit slower on usb |
| 09:14 |
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drojf |
mape: you don't need a graphical interface to virtualize koha |
| 09:15 |
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mape |
yeah I won't need it, but someone who's not so good at linux probably will |
| 09:15 |
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mape |
but a headless server and virtualbox would solve much |
| 09:15 |
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pianohacker |
koha-perf: I found a guide if you're having any trouble |
| 09:16 |
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koha-perf |
yes, it would be great |
| 09:16 |
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pianohacker |
koha-perf: https://mattstauffer.co/blog/h[…]avel-forge-ubuntu |
| 09:16 |
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pianohacker |
except instead of sql_mode=ONLY_FULL... |
| 09:16 |
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pianohacker |
just put sql_mode= |
| 09:22 |
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pianohacker |
that's a circ every other second O_o |
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koha-perf |
yes, editing mysql config helps to pass this error, thank you for assistance, now going to config and test koha with plank and hope it;ll help to improve performance :) |
| 09:27 |
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pianohacker |
koha-perf: excellent! glad to hear |
| 09:27 |
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pianohacker |
koha-perf: hi, by the way, I'm Jesse Weaver, a software developer with ByWater Solutions |
| 09:28 |
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koha-perf |
heh, after loggin in therese an error DBIx::Class::Storage::DBI::_dbh_execute(): Table 'koha_library.discharges' doesn't exist at /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/Borrower/Discharge.pm line 32 |
| 09:29 |
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pianohacker |
Joubu: have we looked at alternative serializations for fixing some of the L1 cache issues? |
| 09:29 |
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pianohacker |
sereal is packaged and allegedly super speedy |
| 09:30 |
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pianohacker |
koha-perf: odd... |
| 09:30 |
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eythian |
pianohacker: booking made it for caching serialisation |
| 09:30 |
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koha-perf |
seems like not all tables where created |
| 09:31 |
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koha-perf |
okei, using this workaround may create new bugs that can be hard to see, is there a known version of linux that works with plank correctly? |
| 09:31 |
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eythian |
I assume debian jessie works |
| 09:32 |
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pianohacker |
koha-perf: is it possible to recreate your database from scratch |
| 09:32 |
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pianohacker |
eythian: have you had any experience with it? performance, limitations, ...? |
| 09:32 |
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koha-perf |
yest database wasnt created becouse of mysql problems, so recreating it may result the same |
| 09:32 |
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eythian |
(that said, that error is a strange one that I'd look at closer first.) |
| 09:32 |
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pianohacker |
koha-perf: did you create the database before ore after you changed the config file? |
| 09:32 |
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eythian |
pianohacker: not sure, I haven't used it myself directly. |
| 09:33 |
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koha-perf |
changed confing -> restarted mysql -> did web installer once more from start |
| 09:33 |
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pianohacker |
:( |
| 09:34 |
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pianohacker |
koha-perf: do any tables exist? |
| 09:35 |
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koha-perf |
yes, but only about a half of the supposed number |
| 09:35 |
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pianohacker |
oh jeez |
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pianohacker |
koha-perf: yeah, fixing this may be harder than switching to debian jessie |
| 09:38 |
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bag |
debian jessie does work |
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koha-perf |
oh, i havent recreated koha's instance after mysql conf eddition |
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koha-perf |
removed and created a new instance helped, now i've got an intra web on |
| 09:45 |
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matts |
vegetarian cooking as example, nice, paul :) |
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mape_ |
drojf: down to 500 mg with a headless debian installation |
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magnuse |
milligrams? ;-) |
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mape_ |
=p |
| 10:01 |
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mape_ |
if Linux was a medicine... |
| 10:04 |
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magnuse |
tcohen around? looks like the pootle server is down |
| 10:04 |
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magnuse |
and the documentation along with it |
| 10:04 |
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pianohacker |
I think it's pretty early for him |
| 10:04 |
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magnuse |
yup, i suspect so too |
| 10:05 |
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magnuse |
@seen tcohen |
| 10:05 |
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huginn |
magnuse: tcohen was last seen in #koha 21 hours, 20 minutes, and 32 seconds ago: <tcohen> when is it held? |
| 10:05 |
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magnuse |
07:05 |
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magnuse |
@later tell tcohen could you get someone to give the pootle server a gentle kick? |
| 10:05 |
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huginn |
magnuse: The operation succeeded. |
| 10:07 |
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koha-perf |
so thanks again for assistance, koha 3.22 with default setup on ubuntu 14.04 had a delay of 3-9 seconds, installing on 16.04 with modified mysql config file and plack enabled seems to work like a charm, pages load in about 1 sec :) |
| 10:07 |
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pianohacker |
koha-perf: yay! |
| 10:07 |
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pianohacker |
koha-perf: may I ask who you are, out of curiosity? |
| 10:08 |
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koha-perf |
i;m from lithuania, working on all IT problems in a vocational school |
| 10:09 |
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magnuse |
koha-perf++ |
| 10:09 |
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pianohacker |
koha-perf: cool! |
| 10:12 |
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eythian |
koha-perf: excellent :) |
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bag |
marcelr_greece: http://www.slideshare.net/talljoy/kohacon2016 |
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marcelr_greece |
cool |
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magnuse |
@later tell tcohen never mind, the pootle server is back! |
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huginn |
magnuse: The operation succeeded. |
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magnuse |
trying to search on 3.22.7 i get "Can't locate object method "fields" via package "DBI::db" at /home/kohaadmin/kohaclone/C4/Biblio.pm line 2673." anyone else seeing that? |
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jajm |
magnuse, search works fine for me |
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jajm |
magnuse, at C4/Biblio.pm line 2673 i have nothing but a comment, are you sure you are using 3.22.7 ? |
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magnuse |
jajm: thanks, something local then |
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magnuse |
jajm: yes, 3.22.07.000 accoding to "about koha" |
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jajm |
ok |
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magnuse |
jajm: for me the line looks like this: |
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magnuse |
MARCFIELD: foreach my $field ( $record->fields() ) { |
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magnuse |
i am running gitified, there might be some new patches since the actual 3.22.7 release |
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jajm |
magnuse, only one, in PerlDependencies.pm, so that's not the problem |
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jajm |
do you have local commits ? |
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bag |
welcome back talljoy |
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talljoy |
thanks! |
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talljoy |
good to be here |
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Joubu |
pianohacker: what's the name of the module you told me? Serialise? |
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pianohacker |
Joubu: sereal |
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magnuse |
jajm: i do. and that patch is above this line. mystery solved :-) |
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jajm |
cool :) |
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magnuse |
btw, i really miss the second progress indicator of (the underlying script of) koha-rebuild-zebra, the one in the indexing phase |
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bag |
it was me talking not NateC ;) |
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bag |
at the boston one |
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drojf |
the most freedom for non freedom |
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* gaetan_B |
is trying to install marcedit on linux and it feels really wrong |
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Joubu |
tcohen: Is bug 16582 the correct way? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16582 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Passed QA , t/Price.t test should pass if Test::DBIx::Class is not available |
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Joubu |
I don't remember the problem with Test::DBIx::Class, it's not packagable, that's it? |
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rangi |
dangit i forgot to do my OSS != non commercial rant |
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* talljoy |
feels a comment coming in the Q&A |
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rangi |
ahh he used proprietary in that slide, .. so that's better |
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eythian |
gaetan_B: don't do it! |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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gaetan_B |
well i did, and now i have a marcedit screen with all the buttons filled with garbled characters |
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rangi |
hi oleonard |
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eythian |
gaetan_B: submit a patc...oh wait |
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gaetan_B |
i might have to give up on this idea, but if that means using a windows computer it will be complicated |
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eythian |
gaetan_B: what are you attempting? |
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gaetan_B |
the magic winisis iso transformation trick demonstrated by Rocio |
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eythian |
presumably .iso is just an ISO MARC file? |
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eythian |
does marcdump read it? |
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gaetan_B |
it is supposed to be an iso marc file, but yaz-marcdump cannot read it |
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eythian |
is there a sample file somewhere? |
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rangi |
you cant ask that |
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pianohacker |
gaetan_B: how big is this file? |
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pianohacker |
slash can we poke it? |
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gaetan_B |
17 Mb |
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gaetan_B |
i have a link to download it, which i can email to you |
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gaetan_B |
but i can't really paste it on irc i think |
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pianohacker |
gaetan_B: that works, thanks, I'm very curious :) |
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oleonard |
Ooh, cait is up in the big chair this morning |
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eythian |
gaetan_B: you need to write a module that can convert it to something useful and put it on CPAN :) |
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gaetan_B |
we'll see, if we can avoid writing a module, maybe we'll avoid that step ;) |
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pianohacker |
oleonard: am I in frame on the livestream? I'm very sleepy and worried that I'll pass out in full view of the world |
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oleonard |
pianohacker: Just stay awake during Q&A, that's when the camera pulls back |
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marcelr_greece |
pianohacker: any chance to pass me your presentatoin slides? |
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eythian |
gaetan_B: what does it actually look like inside, MARC-like or something else? |
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eythian |
maybe it's just compressed or something> |
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talljoy |
it should look like "marc" |
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eythian |
but iso2709 or something else? |
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pianohacker |
marcelr_greece: yes, I'm looking into getting them posted |
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marcelr_greece |
great |
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gaetan_B |
eythian: it sort of looks like iso, but with a maximum line length |
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gaetan_B |
i get a new line after every 80 characters i think |
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eythian |
ah, so perhaps just reforming at the breaks is all that's needed. |
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gaetan_B |
if we're lucky that will be the only thing needed in order to open it |
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eythian |
a bit of sed should get you some idea of that's all that's needed anyway. |
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oleonard |
Oh wow, the old npl template! |
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gaetan_B |
still not enough |
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gaetan_B |
i get a lot of errors, the sort Rocio talked about |
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gaetan_B |
i think marcedit had a small tool that takes care of all of those |
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gaetan_B |
aaah there she is :) |
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eythian |
gaetan_B: what sort of errors? |
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talljoy |
she's been reading my screen gaetan_B |
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talljoy |
;-) |
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gaetan_B |
can i fetch your presentation slides from somewhere rocio ? |
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talljoy |
rocio do you have slideshare account? |
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gaetan_B |
eythian: (Directory offset 72: Bad value for data length and/or length starting (22500140\x0D005)) (Base address not at end of directory, base 385, end 73)(No separator at end of field length=3) (Separator but not at end of field length=17) |
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gaetan_B |
etc |
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talljoy |
that looks like carriage returns. |
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eythian |
I wonder if there's a weird offset |
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rocio |
I don't have an account, but I can upload them there. Does that work for you gaetan_B? Or do you want an email? |
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talljoy |
rocio i can upload them to my account and you can email pdfs also |
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pianohacker |
gaetan_B: oh, dear lord, there's no leaders |
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talljoy |
i think that's normal in winisis pianohacker |
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gaetan_B |
i don't have a slideshare account |
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talljoy |
this is only marc in appearance. |
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talljoy |
gaetan_B you don't need one to access the slides. |
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talljoy |
once i get them from rocio i'll upload them and she/I can send you a link |
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rocio |
Did the program download for you yet? |
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gaetan_B |
ok, you can email them to me at gaetan.boisson biblibre.com, or put them online and i'll download it |
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gaetan_B |
yes but i can't get it to work under linux yet |
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talljoy |
ACK |
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talljoy |
yah, i think you will be wrestling a pig to get marcedit to run on linux. |
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talljoy |
<- is from texas....sorry for the idiom |
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gaetan_B |
:D |
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rocio |
If you want we can do it on my computer? |
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gaetan_B |
that's a nice image |
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talljoy |
yes. lovely isn't it. lol |
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talljoy |
i almost went with an oiled pig. |
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eythian |
OK, I found someone's file on the internet. It's definitely close to ISO2709. |
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talljoy |
which is a popular event at the state fair. |
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gaetan_B |
actually there's a page on a website about using it on linux, where they tell you to read carefully the install.txt file you will get in the download |
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gaetan_B |
but there's no such file :D |
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talljoy |
ah! that's a problem then |
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rocio |
How helpful lol |
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talljoy |
i have marcedit on this mac rocio and gaetan_B if you want to try this later today. Or you can wait til the hackfest. |
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gaetan_B |
rocio: we'll try it on you computer at the break if you don't mind yes ! |
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talljoy |
she left it at the apt |
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gaetan_B |
or at the hackfest yes |
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gaetan_B |
ah ok |
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talljoy |
sorry rocio i should let you type |
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gaetan_B |
it's not an emergency anyway |
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talljoy |
but she is on the phone. and typing on a phone is like eating with your knees |
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gaetan_B |
i'm just taking advantage of the fact you are around! |
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rocio |
Ha! |
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pianohacker |
I kind of want to try to make a fix script |
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pianohacker |
for catmandu |
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pianohacker |
gaetan_B: do you... catmandu |
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gaetan_B |
another beautiful idiom from texas talljoy ? |
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talljoy |
yes, apparently so. lol |
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gaetan_B |
i don't, but i think we should start looking into it indeed |
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oleonard |
I did not know this HTML tag existed https://developer.mozilla.org/[…]HTML/Element/mark |
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eythian |
pianohacker: that would be a good idea. |
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oleonard |
What is the name of the person speaking now? |
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eythian |
gaetan_B: if you just strip the \015\012 then it starts to parse with marcdump, but everything but the leader is skipped, so presumably the dictionary isn't correct. |
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gaetan_B |
eythian: don't spend too much of your time on this ;) i think we'll decode it very quickly on talljoy's computer |
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bag |
hmm perhaps we need a spot on the website for users groups to put some links and information to their groups |
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eythian |
gaetan_B: you're just tying yourself to proprietary software by relying on marcedit :) |
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talljoy |
bag you should comment on that |
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oleonard |
Ah, helpful camera shot of his name tag |
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oleonard |
Hi waking-up people |
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oleonard |
nengard you got some nice shout-outs for your good work on the manual |
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nengard |
awww |
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nengard |
:) |
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oleonard |
nengard: During the "10 years of Koha in Greece" presentation |
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nengard |
I'll have to go watch that |
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JesseM |
morning |
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drojf |
matts: http://librecat.org/ |
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matts |
thx drojf |
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drojf |
i think there is no unimarc yet |
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drojf |
they accept contributions ;) |
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matts |
:) |
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bag |
morning jenkins_koha |
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bag |
morning JesseM |
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rangi |
bag: http://www.livemedia.com/photo/236697 |
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bag |
nice |
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rangi |
and one for rocio http://www.livemedia.com/photo/236840 |
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oleonard |
Whoever the photographer is, they're good |
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rangi |
yeah, its the people who did the video, professionals and really fast/good |
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oleonard |
Is anyone here at the current session? Is it just going to be reading a laundry list? |
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rangi |
i think its just a reading the list, people seem to be liking it though |
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grharry |
bad |
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oleonard |
grharry: ? |
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grharry |
the enhancement list |
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grharry |
poor |
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pianohacker |
it would be nice to have these as bugs |
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grharry |
no social media introduced |
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grharry |
no twitter |
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oleonard |
grharry: An enhancement list can be called poor only in relation to one's own wish list |
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grharry |
I am claiming it as poor regarding it's lenght not content |
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pianohacker |
what is this about? |
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rangi |
its what people entered on their registration form |
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bag |
alvet won a tardis |
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rangi |
heh |
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grharry |
:P |
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bag |
ten bucks pianohacker misses it and catches a bus to the vergina - like he did in Reno |
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bag |
pianohacker++ |
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pianohacker |
shhhhh |
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bag |
pianohacker: you should ask now what bus number to get at 10am tomorrow :P |
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grharry |
lol |
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pianohacker |
stay up too late working on a patch oooooooooooooone time |
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bag |
heh |
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bag |
hey what’s up bgkriegel |
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bgkriegel |
Hi bag :) |
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bgkriegel |
watching kohacon live :) |
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bag |
ok time for us to find final beers :) |
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pianohacker |
¡Buenos dias! |
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mveron |
Thank you all at KohaCon :-) |
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grharry |
wow !!! too many people using windows .... |
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grharry |
:P |
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tcohen |
@wunder cordoba argentina |
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huginn |
tcohen: The current temperature in Valle Escondido, Cordoba, Argentina, Córdoba, Argentina is 9.5°C (11:19 AM ART on June 01, 2016). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
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tcohen |
#koha: UNC had a major outage yesterday due to a storage server failure, that's why translate was down (and so some jenkins nodes), everything is supposed to be up and running again, please let us know |
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oleonard |
@wunder 45701 |
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huginn |
oleonard: The current temperature in Longview Hts, Athens, Ohio is 30.0°C (10:30 AM EDT on June 01, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
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oleonard |
Summer has definitely arrived here. |
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nengard |
@wunder 78754 |
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huginn |
nengard: The current temperature in North Acres, Austin, Texas is 24.9°C (9:26 AM CDT on June 01, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 21.0°C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Rising). Flash Flood Watch in effect through Friday morning... |
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nengard |
it's cooler here!! |
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oleonard |
nengard: especially when you're under water? |
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nengard |
well ... yeah |
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talljoy |
@later tell gaeten_b http://boingboing.net/2015/05/[…]rizes-entire.html |
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huginn |
talljoy: The operation succeeded. |
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reiveune |
bye |
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oleonard |
The alternative KohaCon16 taking place in oleonard's office is going well, but attendance is very low. |
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nengard |
heh |
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circ-user-favsE |
hello, i have koha install on VPS with ip |
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circ-user-favsE |
i would like to enable send mail for notification so how can i do that ? |
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circ-user-favsE |
help please |
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wahanui |
help is at http://koha-community.org/support/ if no-one here can help. |
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mveron |
Good evening / daytime #koha |
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oleonard |
Hi mveron |
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mveron |
oleonard: Hi! And thanks for the comments on 16540 :-) |
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* mveron |
...used to say please please as kid when he wanted to get an icecream... |
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oleonard |
:) |
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mveron |
oleonard: We have two occurences of "don't" and several occurences of "do not" in opac-auth.tt. I think that could be streamlined - but what version would be better? |
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mveron |
Examples: "If you do not have a CAS account..." and "If you don't have a library card..." |
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mveron: I think if you're talking about sentences which are so similar, you can't pick whichever is more common and make them alike. However, I wouldn't suggest replacing /all/ occurrences of one with the other. |
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OK, I leave the "don't"s and the "do not"s as is |
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@later tell LibraryClaire remember that remote viewer your IT guy was using today... http://www.inquisitr.com/31568[…]omers-vulnerable/ |
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huginn |
eythian: The operation succeeded. |
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brdrgz |
Hey guys. Can someone explain the versioning changes? Why did 3.24 become 16.05? |
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talljoy |
it was voted on by the community. |
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talljoy |
and agreed upon. |
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thatcher |
makes more sense in the long run i think, since it's year.month versioning instead of "historical" |
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talljoy |
brdrgz i think it became obvious that 3. or 4. seemed arbitrary. |
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talljoy |
And YY.05 and YY.11 at least gave some meaning to the release - indicating when it was released. |
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brdrgz |
Ah ok. The 16 referring to the year totally flew over my head, haha. Makes sense now that I'm looking at the release schedule. |
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talljoy |
:) |
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gmcharlt |
Introducing... Koha 5776!!! (ERR_CALENDAR_NOT_EXPLICITLY_SPECIFIED) |
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wizzyrea |
has anyone seen a thing where a catalogue running plack explodes when star ratings are enabled? |
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wizzyrea |
it's a bit odd, it just dies, with no error in opac-error, no error in the plack-error, but "internal server error" |
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wizzyrea |
but turning off star ratings completely fixes it for the results page, I haven't looked at the detail only view. |
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wizzyrea |
yeah it explodes the detail only view as well. |
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wizzyrea |
Anyway, disappointed library that likes star ratings. |
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wizzyrea |
are we really sending the surname, barcode, and reservedate to selfchecks when an item is on hold for another user? |
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wizzyrea |
that seems INSANE. |
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