IRC log for #koha, 2016-05-06

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03:43 bag hola
03:43 dcook \o
03:44 bag hey dcook
03:44 bag how’s things
03:44 * dcook shrugs
03:44 dcook It's Friday, so pizza and beer night :)
03:44 bag noice!
03:44 dcook you?
03:44 bag you make the pizza?  or order in?
03:44 dcook How's Portland treating you?
03:45 dcook Mmm either make it or buy frozen cheese pizza and add fresh toppings
03:45 bag ahh
03:45 dcook Although ordering isn't a bad idea...
03:45 dcook There's an amazing pizza place just down the street...
03:45 bag Portland is fab.  it’s the most wonderful time of the year.. perfect temp.  everything is blooming and it’s super green and lush
03:45 dcook :D
03:46 bag tomorrow is pizza for us.  We just made the dough so it’s got 24 hours to raise
03:46 bag a tiny tough of sourdough taste (tiny touch)
03:47 dcook Mmm sounds tasty
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03:51 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16451: Fix missisng body id in <[…]69fc85499dc28c177> / Bug 16453: Make Elasticsearch tests be skipped if configuration entry missing <[…]811ab207aa746a381> / Bug 16426: follow-up of bug 15840 - correctly manage userid while inserting
04:01 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16414: Follow-up - change to kohastructure.sql <[…]a568c6737da1a4dc1> / Bug 16414: Drop aqorders.budgetgroup_id <[…]a848ceaea4d685200>
04:11 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'master' of git:// <[…]865b43da6c73c20e9> / Bug 15919: Batch checkout - Display the due date <[…]993df1267baa11bd7> / DBRev Bug 16414 - aqorders.budgetgroup_id has never been used and can be <http://git.koha-community.o
04:13 bag hmm dcook - I don’t think I meant to push this one :P  â€œTrivial merge”
04:13 bag ehh trival merge - I’ll grab that one later (silly workflow)
04:13 dcook hmm?
04:14 dcook No idea what you're talking about, bag :)
04:14 bag[…]865b43da6c73c20e9
04:22 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15823: Redirect to 404 page <[…]731eb8e0cf200e1f4> / Bug 15823: Can still access patron discharge slip without having the syspref on <[…]dca4d50d278951fd0>
04:32 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13041 - Can't add user as manager of basket if name includes a single quote <[…]9dddb8aec0206b1e9> / Bug 16386 - Replace the use of "onclick" from patron card creator templates <[…]39467242253869066>
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05:03 pastebot "Oak" at pasted "Updating DB during Git installation" (4 lines) at
05:04 Oak Any idea what's that guys?
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05:49 Oak cait
05:49 Oak need help.
05:49 Oak you know I was having issues with kohadevbox+vagrant and qa-tools.
05:50 bag hmm
05:51 bag I think that is just warning and you are ok Oak
05:52 Oak I did a fresh install of Debian 8.x and then did git koha install and everything works OK.
05:53 Oak but qa tools is giving same failed tests # 22 and 23 as it was in kohadevbox.
05:53 pastebot "Oak" at pasted "qa tools fail test 22 and 23" (345 lines) at
05:54 Oak bag!
05:54 Oak thanks, that was warning, cool. now, any help regarding this qa tools?
05:56 bag no help with the qa tools part
05:57 bag just cause it’s late for me - I have the tired lateness ;)
05:59 Oak cool.
05:59 dcook bag: Is down?
06:00 dcook Ah back up..
06:00 dcook Trivial merge is indeed a trivial merge it seems..
06:04 cait Oak: sorry, no idea about kohadevbox still :(
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06:39 bag @later tell cait - go to bed!!!! yeesh
06:39 huginn bag: The operation succeeded.
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10:01 drojf hi #koha
10:02 eythian hi drojf
10:03 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
10:03 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 21.0°C (11:50 AM CEST on May 06, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 33%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
10:03 eythian @wunder ams
10:03 Oak hey drojf
10:03 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 20.9°C (12:01 PM CEST on May 06, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
10:03 drojf ha, i win
10:03 eythian so close!
10:03 Oak hello mr Robin
10:04 drojf :)
10:04 eythian hi oak
10:04 Oak what do you guys make of this:
10:05 Oak I ran this inside the qa-test-tools folder after a fresh Deina 8.x + Koha git isntall.
10:05 Oak fresh Debian*
10:06 eythian @wunder amsterdam
10:06 huginn eythian: Error: No such location could be found.
10:06 eythian @wunder amsterdam, nl
10:06 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Aalsmeer - Oost, Amsterdam Airport Schiphol, Netherlands is 22.8°C (12:03 PM CEST on May 06, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
10:07 eythian there we go, now I win drojf
10:07 Oak *sigh*
10:07 Oak I'll just stop trying to sign off bugs then.
10:09 drojf hm
10:11 drojf @wunder ber
10:11 huginn drojf: Error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found
10:11 drojf @wunder berlin, de
10:11 huginn drojf: Error: No such location could be found.
10:11 drojf i want to have different berins too ;)
10:11 eythian @wunder berlin, usa
10:11 huginn eythian: Error: No such location could be found.
10:11 eythian aw, I was sure there'd be one there
10:12 drojf there are several i think
10:12 eythian @wunder berlin, nevada
10:12 huginn eythian: Error: No such location could be found.
10:12 eythian that one is a ghost town apparently
10:12 eythian @wunder berlin, kansas
10:12 huginn eythian: Error: No such location could be found.
10:12 * eythian gives up
10:12 eythian[…]disambiguation%29 <-- but there's a ton
10:13 drojf[…]cast?query=berlin
10:13 drojf @wunder berlin, florida
10:13 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Oceanway, Jacksonville, Florida is 9.1°C (6:01 AM EDT on May 06, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.85 in 1011 hPa (Rising).
10:13 drojf @wunder berlin, erl salvador
10:13 huginn drojf: Error: No such location could be found.
10:14 drojf @wunder berlin, el salvador
10:14 huginn drojf: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
10:14 drojf hm
10:14 drojf it probably does not like berlin flood
10:14 drojf now that i would have won. unfair
10:14 drojf @wunder 78670
10:14 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Downtown, Staples, Texas is 15.4°C (5:14 AM CDT on May 06, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
10:15 drojf hm ok id does not work, its usa postcode i guess?
10:15 eythian yeah, I think so
10:16 eythian @wunder Reguliersdwarsstraat
10:16 huginn eythian: Error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found
10:16 drojf anyway it's pretty nice weather. and i just got an extra notebook battery so i can work a whole day in the park if i want to
10:16 eythian @wunder IAMSTERD373
10:16 huginn eythian: Error: No such location could be found.
10:16 eythian oh well
10:17 eythian yeah, it was a holiday here yesterday, and the weather was good. I went for a bike loop around the canals.
10:17 drojf here was holiday too, not much happening today. many people take the day in between off and have a long weekend
10:18 drojf it's called "bridge day" in german, no idea if that has an english word
10:18 drojf leo says that works in english. bridge or bridging day
10:19 eythian yeah, I don't know if there's a real term for it, but that'd certainly make sense.
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10:23 eythian it's pretty quiet here for the same reason
10:49 * cait waves
10:49 cait drojf: pm?
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10:50 drojf huh? i answered?
10:50 drojf :)
10:50 cait hm
10:50 cait didn't get an answer :)
10:51 drojf weird
10:51 drojf now?
10:51 cait nope
10:51 drojf erm
10:51 cait just wanted to ask your laptop model again
10:51 cait i finally got to do some research yesterday
10:54 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merges translations for Koha 16.05 <[…]7bad3c61dbabb1dd3> / Translation updates for Koha 16.05 (beta) release <[…]8e4824d65e45339b2>
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11:42 drojf later #koha
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11:49 oleonard Hi #koha
11:49 cait hi oleonard :)
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12:28 tcohen morning
12:28 geek_cl o/
12:33 Oak tcohen, can you tell a bit about qa-test-tools. I did a fresh install of Debian 8.x, did Koha install using git. ANd before moving forward, I try to do prove -v t/Perl.t as wiki says inside the qa-test-tools directory, but get these errors:
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12:33 Oak
12:34 tcohen hi geek_cl
12:34 Oak I did the clean Debian install because I started having same test 22 & 23 failing with kohadevbox + vagrant.
12:34 tcohen Oak: I never read that wiki, and am sure i never ran prove t/Perl.t
12:35 Oak huh.
12:35 tcohen it might be worth fixing, though
12:35 tcohen :-D
12:35 Oak :)
12:35 Oak https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]iki/QA_Test_Tools
12:35 Oak oh well.
12:38 tcohen Oak: i'll try myself right now, thanks for pointing it out
12:38 tcohen if you have any clue on the failure, please say it loud .-D
12:40 Oak cool. thanks.
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13:41 oleonard Did a patch recently pushed to master break Zebra? Suddenly my searches turn up nothing.
13:42 Joubu oleonard: see that yesterday, I thought it was my install
13:44 oleonard "Zebra does not appear to have been running"
13:56 Kchris I am attempting to test a patch (9543). However, "git bz apply 9543" returns "global name 'host' is not defined". Any thoughts?
13:56 nengard boo
13:57 Kchris hello
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13:58 Joubu Kchris: did you follow the wiki page?
13:58 Kchris Joubu: I did the configuration on the wiki page.
14:00 Joubu Kchris: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]_bz_configuration
14:00 Joubu $ git config bz.default-tracker
14:01 Joubu Kchris: check your git config file, you should see a bz-tracker entry
14:02 Kchris Joubu: I have checked the git config settings using "git config --list" and I do see the bz-tracker entry there.
14:02 Kchris Is that what you mean?
14:03 Joubu Kchris: see ~/.gitconfig
14:04 Joubu [bz-tracker ""]
14:04 tcohen khall: DBIC upgrade needed!
14:04 Joubu then 4 entries: path, bz-user, bz-password, https
14:04 khall tcohen: will do!
14:04 tcohen oleonard: where do u get that message about zebra?
14:04 oleonard tcohen: I ran koha-restart-zebra
14:04 tcohen ah
14:05 tcohen context?
14:05 tcohen gitified master? kohadevbox? dev install?
14:06 tcohen stable packages?
14:06 oleonard gitified package install
14:06 tcohen ack
14:09 tcohen oleonard: yaz-client works for you? (so zebra is actually running?)
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14:10 oleonard tcohen: running 'koha-restart-zebra' successfully started zebra and gave me that warning. Searches worked after that.
14:10 oleonard I didn't do anything with yaz-client.
14:11 edveal Anyone out there using the “Did you mean” feature successfully?
14:11 tcohen oleonard: i tried on a fresh kohadevbox, and records showed while getting imported from the "manage staged records" page
14:11 * tcohen loves the indexer daemon enabled by default
14:12 sophie_m hello #koha
14:12 cait edveal: we do
14:13 cait edveal: it requires authorities tho
14:14 cait if you have simple search words results can be good
14:14 edveal cait right, we have a partner who is using authorities, I think their sys prefes are set right and the linker is on. But the never get anything when using did you mean.
14:14 cait there are 2 dif you mean plugins
14:14 cait we don't use the expanded one i thing let me check
14:15 cait we are only using AuthorityFile
14:15 edveal cait any chance you could email me a screenshot of your sys pref set up?
14:16 cait it's really only the did you mean authority file checked for opac
14:16 edveal That I can use as a point of comparison.
14:16 cait under administration > did you mean
14:16 sophie_m Does someone know if it is on purpose that when cataloguing, if you clone a field, it is empty, and when you clone a subfield it keeps its content ?
14:16 edveal Right but I am worred that they might not have authorities set up right so they are not getting created correctly. Then the did you mean will not work. cait
14:17 cait we import the authorities
14:17 cait so it's all created outside koha
14:17 edveal Ah ok.
14:17 cait we are not using the linker
14:17 edveal Got you. Thanks.
14:17 cait we import 'pre-linked'
14:17 cait sorry
14:17 cait the linker is a mystery i might have to tackle soon...
14:17 edveal :)
14:18 edveal Thank you cait
14:18 cait edveal: does the normal authority search turn up results?
14:18 cait and shows linked records?
14:18 edveal I will have to log in and test again. But as I recall it was.
14:20 edveal Ah cait you have it I think. I find plenty of authorities but non are linked to records.
14:20 edveal Thanks again.
14:22 cait good luck!
14:26 Joubu oleonard: what's the point to move js code from tt to automatic_item_modification_by_age.js? (bug 16437)
14:26 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16437 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Automatic item modifications by age needs prettying
14:27 oleonard Keeping js in separate files makes it so that it can be cached, so that it can be more easily linted, so that it might in the future be minified
14:30 Joubu oleonard: should it be a requirement for patches?
14:30 Joubu no js code in tt files
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14:34 oleonard Joubu: I don't know... Right now I think of it as a best practice rather than a requirement
14:35 oleonard ...but one of my goals is rework the staff client so that JS can be at the bottom instead of the top, and having separate files will certainly help
14:35 oleonard A lot of JS has T:T in it, so that's an impediment.
14:38 oleonard Sorry about Bug 16437 Joubu, I thought you said age was required.
14:38 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16437 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Automatic item modifications by age needs prettying
14:39 Joubu oleonard I sent you a later yesterday I think about that, did not you receive it?
14:39 oleonard Oh, no I didn't!
14:40 oleonard ...but the log says you did, so thank you
14:41 Joubu maybe I typoed something, I always typo the laters
14:45 oleonard "You cannot be discharged, you have issues." I'll say I do.
14:45 nengard ha
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15:15 Kchris Joubu++ . My password was not getting stored in the ~/.gitconfig. Perhaps it objected to one of the characters? I changed the password and now it works.
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15:22 drab hi there, trying my luck again with the z3950 issue, still can't get results to show despite all settings looking ok
15:22 drab I've added LOC as a target, MARC21/USMARC, server/ip looks correct and if I sniff traffic I can see request going out and results coming back
15:23 drab but on the screen it says "nothing found"
15:23 drab any thoughts on how I could even debug this? I'm just out of options to even figure out what's going on
15:24 drab I tried to change log levels to debug, but it makes no difference, I get no debug output
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15:24 drab short of trying to add log statement to the .pl itself I don't know what else to do and not sure how productive that's going to be (I don't really know anything about this code base)
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15:50 oleonard drab: Which version of Koha?
15:50 drab 3.22.6
15:54 oleonard Sorry, you probably already knew it, but it doesn't seem to be a bug in the version. It works for me.
15:59 oleonard *sigh* Why didn't I take them /all/ out? Bug 16337
15:59 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16337 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Remove the use of "onclick" from the stage MARC records template
15:59 oleonard Left one behind. :(
15:59 Oak oleonard++
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16:01 * Oak thinks oleonard is an awesome web developer.
16:01 oleonard Thanks Oak :)
16:01 Oak :)
16:01 oleonard I will keep at it!
16:02 drab oleonard: do you have any recommendations for debugging? I tried to set DEBUG in log4perl config in /etc, but it made no difference
16:02 drab same for KOHA_CGI_DEBUG in apache config stanza
16:02 drab nothing shows up in the logs
16:04 oleonard Sorry drab I don't know what to advise.
16:05 drab k, np, will figure something out. thanks.
16:06 Oak drab, is your PC behind a proxy? can't think of anything else.
16:08 drab Oak: it is, but port 210 would not be intercepted, it's just a web proxy, and like I said, unless I've gone nuts which is always an option, I see traffic coming back to the box
16:08 drab I'm tcpdump'ing on the koha server itself, and I see LOC sending back a lot of packets with info about books and stuff
16:08 drab altho it's a bit hard to read into an hexdump
16:08 drab but they look like legittimate entries to me, summaries of books and stuff
16:09 drab so that seems to pretty much rule out anything funky going on at network layer
16:10 drab because I don't know much at all about koha (i'm just a tech guy volunteering for this non profit, never touched koha before), I'm more inclined to think I messed something up while setting the instance up
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16:11 drab but we've been looking at settings with cait too yesterday and they look ok
16:11 Oak hmm
16:14 pianohacker_DND drab: does search work from within the advanced editor?
16:16 drab pianohacker_DND: I'm afraid I don't know what that is. How can I do a search from the advanced editor? I'm in the library-intra , cataloging right now
16:16 oleonard Is that in 3.22.x pianohacker_DND?
16:16 pianohacker_DND oleonard: yes :D
16:17 drab oh, urm
16:17 pianohacker_DND drab: turn on the EnableAdvancedCatalogingEditor, then it'll show up as a button on the cataloging screen
16:17 drab hang on a sec, I just realized something...
16:17 pianohacker_DND (that's a syspref, by the way)
16:19 drab the lib guy told me to test by going to cataloging and then hitting the button with the search glass reading "New from z39.50/SRU"
16:19 oleonard that's right.
16:19 drab which opens up the screen. and I put "love" in it, and it says nothing found
16:20 drab but
16:21 drab if I just stick "love" into the top search box (cataloging search) and then scroll down there's a section "bilibos in reservoir" and in the column "Coming from" it says ""
16:21 drab does that mean it's working? or are those results somehow stored locally from something else?
16:22 drab in that "biblios in reservoir" section I actually see entries from the other SRUs we have defined too (columbia, princeton, etc)
16:22 drab pianohacker_DND: gonna look at that pref you mentioned
16:23 pianohacker_DND drab: the reservoir is (among other things) where records from Z39.50 searches are stored before being displayed
16:23 pianohacker_DND so they're making it all the way back to Koha but not being shown :/
16:24 drab ok I have that advanced searched thing on
16:25 drab what can I do with it?
16:25 pianohacker_DND drab: go to the cataloging home page, there should be a button labeled "Advanced editor" there
16:25 drab yep, already clicked
16:26 drab I'm in a screen "editing new record"
16:32 pianohacker_DND drab: there's a box on the side where you can run a Z39.50 search
16:35 drab pianohacker_DND: lots of love for drab \o/
16:35 drab about 70+ results for title:love
16:35 pianohacker_DND interesting! So it's specific to the old search.
16:35 drab so I've no clue why they don't show in the other screen
16:35 drab sounds like it
16:36 drab lemme try that again
16:36 drab yeah, gives no love
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17:01 oleonard Seems inconsistent that in the staff client cart you have a button to batch modify all but you have to select to batch delete. Why not select for both?
17:02 oleonard Batch modification happens within the cart popup, but batch delete happens in the parent window.
17:03 oleonard I'm going to get /very/ angry about that right after lunch.
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18:10 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16414 - Update Schema <[…]c58053e793c609f90>
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18:20 nuentoter where does koha pull the info for how many items a record has?
18:22 oleonard From the items table
18:22 oleonard Why do you ask nuentoter?
18:24 nuentoter when doing an import i had 1645 mark records and 1733 items
18:26 oleonard So Koha would have examined the actual MARC file to look for the item count in that case.
18:28 oleonard nuentoter: Does that number not look correct?
18:29 nuentoter there should only be 1 item per record
18:34 oleonard nuentoter: Have you examined the MARC file to see whether there are extra items?
18:40 Karl_H if you have MARCedit I think there's an option to do a field count
18:41 nuentoter reading into this more,, i  think its my lack of intimite familiarity with marc records that is getting to me, i have a good working knowledge of them but it is still very surface
18:42 oleonard nuentoter: How was the MARC file made?
18:42 nuentoter exported from winnebago/spectrum
18:49 oleonard nuentoter: Do you have access to MARCedit?
18:55 nuentoter yup i have marcedit
18:57 nuentoter I know that our original records have been catalogued by people who had no idea about cataloguing so there are errors all over, I've been doing pretty good at finding and fixing them as I go. this is one that is escaping me though
18:58 nuentoter I believe it is records with multiple holdings that shouldnt have multiple holdings, but trying to find those records specifically is hard with winnebago unless you crawl through them one by one, its reports are not very useful in this area
19:13 Kchris I am testing bug 9543. Any ideas about why the "transfer to" message would appear when checking in items where home branch and current branch are the same?
19:13 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9543 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Show patrons messaging subscription on holds notification
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21:16 tcohen is master just broken?
21:17 tcohen
21:19 bag worked for me last night
21:19 bag let me check see
21:19 bag just you tcohen I thinks
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