| Time |
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Nick |
Message |
| 00:00 |
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rangi |
i can never find their vcs repos |
| 00:00 |
|
dcook |
They're on Github I believe |
| 00:01 |
|
dcook |
They used to have them on indexdata's website and recently migrated them |
| 00:01 |
|
dcook |
https://github.com/indexdata/idzebra |
| 00:01 |
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wizzyrea |
drab, they must have closed the window |
| 00:02 |
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wizzyrea |
that does give the 404 |
| 00:04 |
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rangi |
cool |
| 00:04 |
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drab |
wizzyrea: yeah, likely, I will confirm tomorrow as the lib guy comes to work. thank you. |
| 00:04 |
|
wizzyrea |
yep nw |
| 00:04 |
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rangi |
https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/idzebra |
| 00:04 |
|
wizzyrea |
should fix that interface. |
| 00:04 |
|
rangi |
i reckon the depending on docbook which has no maintainer won't be helping |
| 00:04 |
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wizzyrea |
it's weird. |
| 00:04 |
|
wahanui |
did you try flushing the cache and deleting wahanui's cookies |
| 00:06 |
|
dcook |
rangi: Oh that's neat |
| 00:07 |
|
dcook |
The maintainer just doesn't seem keen |
| 00:08 |
|
dcook |
The one I really don't understand is this person: http://search.cpan.org/~aar/Cr[…]b/Crypt/GCrypt.pm |
| 00:08 |
|
dcook |
Their Github shows that they're active, but they ignore anything related to that git repo |
| 00:09 |
|
dcook |
Surely a "I really don't want to maintain this anymore" would suffice... |
| 00:14 |
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| 00:36 |
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drojf |
hi dcook. i remember you had something to say about http::oai being broken, i just dont remember where. (which version is broken would be the interesting part for me) |
| 00:36 |
|
dcook |
So broken |
| 00:36 |
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dcook |
4.03 I think is the latest broken version |
| 00:36 |
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dcook |
3.28 should be fine |
| 00:36 |
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| 00:36 |
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dcook |
drojf: ^ :) |
| 00:37 |
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drojf |
ok. i could not build latest catmandu-oai with 4.x (they use it too, there is no escape), so mabe that is not my fault |
| 00:38 |
|
dcook |
Ew... why would they use it.. |
| 00:38 |
|
dcook |
*sadface* http://cpansearch.perl.org/src[…]u/Importer/OAI.pm |
| 00:38 |
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drojf |
why did you use it? … |
| 00:38 |
|
dcook |
I started the OAI stuff years ago before 4.03 came out :) |
| 00:39 |
|
dcook |
Now... I think about rolling my own implementation or taking over HTTP::OAI, but... |
| 00:39 |
|
dcook |
I'm not a huge fan of HTTP::OAI in general |
| 00:39 |
|
drojf |
there are no buts in koha land. do it now!!1 |
| 00:39 |
|
dcook |
The documentation isn't very good, parts of it don't work correctly at all |
| 00:39 |
|
dcook |
lol |
| 00:40 |
|
dcook |
Too many projects, too little time |
| 00:40 |
|
dcook |
More accurately, too little money I guess |
| 00:40 |
|
dcook |
I wonder what they do for Catamandu::Importer::OAI... |
| 00:41 |
|
dcook |
drojf: When you say build, is that from CPAN? |
| 00:41 |
|
dcook |
Ahh right. They probably haven't noticed yet. |
| 00:41 |
|
dcook |
As Debian Jessie uses 3.27 |
| 00:41 |
|
dcook |
https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libhttp-oai-perl |
| 00:42 |
|
dcook |
4.03 is coming down the pipes though and I don't think anyone at Debian has fixed it yet |
| 00:42 |
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drojf |
i dont they anyone there uses much debian |
| 00:42 |
|
dcook |
? |
| 00:42 |
|
dcook |
Oh, there as in the Catmandu folk? |
| 00:42 |
|
drojf |
yes |
| 00:43 |
|
drojf |
i'll ask about the oai thingy |
| 00:43 |
|
dcook |
Sounds good :) |
| 00:43 |
|
dcook |
Overall, I'm happy to move to Catmandu::Importer::OAI, if it works |
| 00:43 |
|
dcook |
For my purposes, I just need to be able to write the XML to disk |
| 00:43 |
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drojf |
i think i did my part in tracking the problem, lets have some free as in free beer user support :P |
| 00:44 |
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dcook |
:) |
| 00:44 |
|
drojf |
no but seriously, they are really nice people. and i did not come closer than that version doed not work for me at all |
| 00:45 |
|
dcook |
Voila: https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Dis[…]tml?Name=HTTP-OAI |
| 00:45 |
|
drojf |
now hat you confirm you had problems with it its time to figure that out+ |
| 00:45 |
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dcook |
fredericd also had problems with it |
| 00:46 |
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drojf |
3.27 is the last one before that? i thought i had a 3.29 but maybe i'm wrong |
| 00:46 |
|
dcook |
@seen eythian |
| 00:46 |
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huginn |
dcook: eythian was last seen in #koha 13 hours, 8 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <eythian> magnuse: it is :) |
| 00:46 |
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dcook |
@later tell eythian you're missed during Australian daylight hours! |
| 00:46 |
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huginn |
dcook: The operation succeeded. |
| 00:46 |
|
dcook |
drojf: I think it's 3.28 on CPAN, although Debian seems to say they use 3.27 |
| 00:47 |
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dcook |
I think CPAN used to have more versions than just 3.28 and 4.03 on it |
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drojf |
ok but then i can try with that and see what happens |
| 00:47 |
|
dcook |
cpanm HTTP::OAI 3.28 :) |
| 00:47 |
|
dcook |
That's what I use here with openSUSE |
| 00:47 |
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drojf |
nah i build packages of everthing. it#s a debian thing. you should try it :P |
| 00:48 |
|
dcook |
hehe |
| 00:48 |
|
dcook |
I've done it a bit with some of the Perl we use that the community doesn't use |
| 00:48 |
|
dcook |
As I do have one Ubuntu box for Koha |
| 00:48 |
|
dcook |
I really should try making RPMs one of these days... |
| 00:48 |
|
dcook |
Although I don't want to be Koha's RPM package manager :p |
| 00:49 |
|
drojf |
there is still an open slot for an rmp packaging manager ;) |
| 00:49 |
|
drojf |
lol |
| 00:49 |
|
drojf |
damn |
| 00:49 |
|
drojf |
i even misspelled it to trick you into doing it |
| 00:50 |
|
dcook |
lol |
| 00:50 |
|
dcook |
I still want to write Perl bindings for GPGME :p |
| 00:50 |
|
dcook |
If only there were all the time in the world... |
| 00:50 |
|
drojf |
i have no idea of rpm, but it would be cool to have it |
| 00:50 |
|
dcook |
It would make things a lot harder for support though :/ |
| 00:50 |
|
dcook |
It's so much easier just supporting Debian |
| 00:50 |
|
drojf |
but i'm not going to learn it… and you are one of the few koha devs using it |
| 00:51 |
|
dcook |
I already get most of the Zebra queries. I don't want all the Zebra queries *and* RPM queries :p |
| 00:51 |
|
dcook |
Yeah, and I think there are some differences between Redhat RPMs and SUSE RPMs |
| 00:51 |
|
dcook |
So I would get inundated with people wanting to install Koha on ancient Redhat |
| 00:51 |
|
dcook |
Then I would just cry myself to sleep at night :p |
| 00:51 |
|
drojf |
zebra is somethingsomethingdeadhorse soon. lets focus on ES and RPM package managing :P |
| 00:51 |
|
dcook |
Well, as rangi pointed out on koha-devel, Zebra will be around for a long while yet I think |
| 00:52 |
|
dcook |
If only for Z39.50 and SRU |
| 00:52 |
|
drojf |
i know, but that is not what i would tell the soontoberpmmanager |
| 00:52 |
|
dcook |
lol |
| 00:52 |
|
dcook |
What we need is a new person to sucker into these tasks |
| 00:52 |
|
drojf |
i was so close… next time! |
| 00:52 |
|
dcook |
Where is a new me from 4 years ago? |
| 00:52 |
|
drojf |
hehe |
| 00:53 |
|
dcook |
Actually, I don't know how many new developers have really joined up.. |
| 00:53 |
|
drojf |
yeah i could do a lot of koha stuff if i had another me doing the client stuff |
| 00:53 |
|
drojf |
that would be great |
| 00:53 |
|
dcook |
so great |
| 00:53 |
|
drojf |
i actually have several funny ideas for catmandu in kohja |
| 00:53 |
|
drojf |
but no time to even draw it somewhere |
| 00:53 |
|
dcook |
:( |
| 00:54 |
|
dcook |
Yeah, the only reason I'm typing right now is because I'm choosing between what I'm doing next today.. |
| 00:54 |
|
dcook |
Or procrastinating adding OAI deletion support.. |
| 00:54 |
|
dcook |
Really not overly happy with the OAI work I've done.. |
| 00:54 |
|
dcook |
Feels a bit hacky in how I'm using Koha's import system |
| 00:54 |
|
drojf |
i'm too awake from gravedigging in old databases for like 12 hours today., but i'm not useful for anything besides talking you inti rpm management :D |
| 00:55 |
|
dcook |
Yikes, 3am, eh? |
| 00:55 |
|
drojf |
something like that |
| 00:55 |
|
dcook |
I don't know how tcohen was a RM with a newborn |
| 00:55 |
|
drojf |
om the other hand, i know a lot about that ugly db now ;) |
| 00:55 |
|
drojf |
*on |
| 00:57 |
|
dcook |
hehe |
| 00:58 |
|
dcook |
At this point, I'm trying to do more with Arduinos and such as well... |
| 00:58 |
|
dcook |
A colleague gave me an Uno a while back, so I started playing with it a bit |
| 00:58 |
|
dcook |
Then one of his colleagues gave me some LEDs... |
| 00:58 |
|
dcook |
And now I'm waiting for a package of electronic goodies to occupy me for baby's brief naps :p |
| 01:00 |
|
drojf |
excellent. build a selfcheck machine while the baby sleeps, train it in all things koha while its awake |
| 01:00 |
|
dcook |
hehe |
| 01:00 |
|
dcook |
Yeah, I was thinking of building a self-check machine |
| 01:01 |
|
dcook |
Also want to get a better graphics card for my work machine, so that I can build some sort of library demo using Unreal Engine 4 :p |
| 01:01 |
|
drojf |
maybe start with the first one ;) |
| 01:01 |
|
dcook |
Actually, I think the next project might be building a little device that monitors the climate in the bedroom so I know if baby is too hot or cold.. |
| 01:02 |
|
dcook |
Actually, a Raspberry Pi 3 would be better for that than an Arduino... |
| 01:02 |
|
dcook |
Hook it into the WiFi and then it can alert me if I should get up and put more clothes on the bub |
| 01:09 |
|
drojf |
is bub an english word? |
| 01:10 |
|
drojf |
the internet says its aus/nz english for baby :D |
| 01:10 |
|
dcook |
British/Australia, I think? |
| 01:10 |
|
dcook |
Yep, haha |
| 01:10 |
|
dcook |
I'm so used to my wife saying it |
| 01:10 |
|
dcook |
I often tell her that she should speak English instead of Australian.. |
| 01:13 |
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drojf |
bube is an old german word for boy. it's bub (pronounced like boob) in southern germany, where it is more common in general. and there's bubele (in a lot of different spellings) in yiddish |
| 01:15 |
|
drojf |
anyway, i should go to bed. ;) good night dcook and #koha |
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| 02:01 |
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dcook |
I didn't know that you could add a pager to MySQL... |
| 02:01 |
|
dcook |
"\P less" ftw... |
| 02:02 |
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wizzyrea |
i always like the human readable \G |
| 02:02 |
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dcook |
What's \G? (of course I'm not in mysql anymore :P) |
| 02:03 |
|
florent |
rangi: Good afternoon, I might have reached a crossroad making it worth creating a patch. |
| 02:03 |
|
rangi |
cool :) |
| 02:04 |
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florent |
if you had the time to help, that would be ... safer :-) |
| 02:04 |
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rangi |
is your patch built on top of the other patches? |
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| 03:19 |
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* Oak |
waves |
| 03:22 |
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wizzyrea |
hi oak |
| 03:22 |
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wizzyrea |
how goes the devbox odyssey |
| 03:22 |
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Oak |
Hey wizzyrea ! |
| 03:22 |
|
Oak |
very cool! |
| 03:22 |
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wizzyrea |
excellent :) |
| 03:23 |
|
Oak |
testing one bug right now Bug 16263 |
| 03:23 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16263 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleishaamohia, Needs Signoff , Making authority tags and subfields actions buttons |
| 03:23 |
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wizzyrea |
a+ |
| 03:23 |
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Oak |
it works fine. would you take a look at the qa-tools output... I'm trying to decide whether to sign-off or not. |
| 03:24 |
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pastebot |
"Oak" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "QA Tools Output for Bug 16263" (24 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/419 |
| 03:25 |
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| 03:27 |
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wizzyrea |
if you want to fix it you could add a follow up |
| 03:27 |
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Oak |
question: is the FAIl related to the 16263 patch? |
| 03:27 |
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wizzyrea |
and mark the one signed off, and leave it "needs sign off" for the follow up |
| 03:28 |
|
wizzyrea |
the tools should run on master cleanly |
| 03:28 |
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Oak |
got it. sure. |
| 03:28 |
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wizzyrea |
the test tools are only looking at the difference between the files changed before and after the most recently applied patch |
| 03:29 |
|
Oak |
OKay. There were some changes + DB upgrade on master when I did git pull. |
| 03:30 |
|
Oak |
so may be one of the new patches is causing it. |
| 03:30 |
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wizzyrea |
mmm stuff doens't usually get pushed that causes qa tools failures |
| 03:30 |
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Oak |
i see. |
| 03:30 |
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wizzyrea |
to be sure though |
| 03:30 |
|
wizzyrea |
your patch that you're testing should be at the tip of your branch |
| 03:30 |
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Oak |
can I test just that patch specifically? |
| 03:31 |
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wizzyrea |
it's assuming that what you have applied on is clean |
| 03:31 |
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wizzyrea |
what I do, and you could do it differently |
| 03:31 |
|
wizzyrea |
is make a new branch based off of master for the bug |
| 03:31 |
|
wizzyrea |
apply the patch, test it |
| 03:31 |
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Oak |
I can delete the branch, and make a new branch checkout |
| 03:31 |
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wizzyrea |
and run the tools on that branch |
| 03:31 |
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Oak |
cool. doing it now. |
| 03:32 |
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wizzyrea |
(of course you make sure your master branch is up to date with latest upstream master) |
| 03:32 |
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wizzyrea |
(before you make a branch for your bug) |
| 03:32 |
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Oak |
I'll do git pull on the master again. I did it 15 minutes ago though. |
| 03:32 |
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wizzyrea |
I haven't seen anything come through that recently :) |
| 03:33 |
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Oak |
got it. thank you :) |
| 03:34 |
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Oak |
alright, new branch, ran qa tools before applying any patch, and all tests PASS. Now I'll apply that patch. |
| 03:36 |
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Oak |
Yup. Something causes in patch to fail qa tools. |
| 03:36 |
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Oak |
so that's that. |
| 03:43 |
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wizzyrea |
:) results are results! |
| 03:43 |
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florent |
rangi: is it possible all dates used to test importing borrowers were wrongly formatted? |
| 03:44 |
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Oak |
Yes :) |
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rangi |
it is :) |
| 03:46 |
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rangi |
but i'd suspect unlikely |
| 03:47 |
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Oak |
wizzyrea, question: #1 if a patch results in things looking OK, but QA fails then should we just add a comment telling the patch developer that "Patch works OK, but QA fails"? Or #2, is it better/"the-way-to-do-it" to add a comment saying "patch works" and sign off, attach patch file, and THEN, add another comment telling QA fails, and revert the "signed off" to "needs sign off" |
| 03:49 |
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Oak |
or is it #3, up to the sign off person's choice. |
| 03:49 |
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wizzyrea |
you can just fail qa there |
| 03:49 |
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wizzyrea |
seems harsh i know |
| 03:49 |
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Oak |
hmm. |
| 03:49 |
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wizzyrea |
and yeah, say it works ok but fails the tools and give the output |
| 03:50 |
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wizzyrea |
if you put a follow up that fixes it, you can leave it needs sign off |
| 03:50 |
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wizzyrea |
and sign off the original, if that makes sense |
| 03:51 |
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aleisha |
Hiya Oak |
| 03:51 |
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aleisha |
I wrote that patch |
| 03:51 |
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Oak |
hello aleisha :) |
| 03:51 |
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Oak |
I know! |
| 03:51 |
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Oak |
:) |
| 03:52 |
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aleisha |
I don't really understand the QA fail though (don't know what it means) so if you can write a follow-up and attach that, that'd be cool! |
| 03:52 |
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aleisha |
would like to get this passed :) |
| 03:52 |
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Oak |
alright. |
| 03:58 |
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Oak |
question: by "attach" you mean I attach the resulting patch? Even though it will have nothing different from your patch EXCEPT what's highlighted here http://i.imgur.com/t9rmNrL.png |
| 03:58 |
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wizzyrea |
correct |
| 03:59 |
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Oak |
ok. cool. And I set the patch status to "failed qa" |
| 04:04 |
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* Oak |
realizes sometimes, he is annoying when trying to understand something. |
| 04:06 |
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wizzyrea |
it's all good :) |
| 04:06 |
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Oak |
:) |
| 04:07 |
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Oak |
oh, QA passed for Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel. |
| 04:13 |
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florent |
got it. us date format preference versus 'an other format preference' |
| 04:14 |
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rangi |
ah yeah |
| 04:14 |
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florent |
very visible now that errors are made visible :-) |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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* dcook |
waves to cait and magnuse |
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* magnuse |
waves back |
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Oak |
magnuse |
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magnuse |
Oak |
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Oak |
\o/ |
| 06:02 |
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magnuse |
\o/ |
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magnuse |
hehe |
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Oak |
:D |
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pastebot |
"Oak" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "prove -v t/Perl.t command result for qa-tools" (345 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/420 |
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Oak |
any idea what could be wrong here. |
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reiveune |
hello |
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Oak |
hello reiveune |
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reiveune |
salut Oak |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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Oak |
Bonjour Monsieur alex_a |
| 07:04 |
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alex_a |
salut Oak |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
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wahanui |
bidet, gaetan_B |
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eythian |
@later tell dcook if it's any consolation I was having beers with Australians yesterday! |
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huginn |
eythian: The operation succeeded. |
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magnuse |
it's oh so quiet... |
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magnuse |
have fun #koha! |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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oleonard |
Someone else gets the same qa tools error as me. I thought I was unique. Bug 16263 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16263 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, arslanone, Needs Signoff , Making authority tags and subfields actions buttons |
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tcohen |
morning #koha |
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tcohen |
jcamins: thanks for your message |
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tcohen |
hi Joubu |
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drojf |
hi #koha |
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drojf |
@later tell dcook i could install http::oai 4.x from debian testing without any problems, i just can't build the deb package from cpan. now i can build catmandu-oai too |
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huginn |
drojf: The operation succeeded. |
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tcohen |
@wunder cordoba, argentina |
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huginn |
tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 10.8°C (10:25 AM ART on April 26, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Steady). |
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tcohen |
brrrr |
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tcohen |
hi drojf |
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drojf |
hi tcohen |
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drojf |
@wunder berlin, germany |
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huginn |
drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 8.0°C (3:20 PM CEST on April 26, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Steady). |
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tcohen |
brrrrrrr |
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drojf |
we had snow a few days ago |
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drojf |
i don't want this |
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drojf |
but the weather did not care ;) |
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eythian |
@wunder ams |
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eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 7.1°C (3:19 PM CEST on April 26, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.44 in 997 hPa (Steady). |
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eythian |
it's missing the fact that I had solid rain hitting me while biking in this morning. |
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drojf |
lol. yeah that happens sometimes |
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drojf |
i got sunshine now! for a few minutes, until there is snow or rain or whatever |
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eythian |
It's koningsdag tomorrow, the weather does not look promising for having thousands more people in the city than normal. |
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oleonard |
@wunder 45701 |
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oleonard: The current temperature in Heatherstone, Athens, Ohio is 16.0°C (9:32 AM EDT on April 26, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1010 hPa (Falling). |
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drojf |
orange umbrella salespeople will have the best day ever |
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eythian |
drojf: yes, yes they will :) |
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* oleonard |
should hire a mechanical turk just to input random acquisitions data into his test system |
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kidclamp |
I have had to be much more mindful of the words I use when entering 'crap' data since I have to do demos occasionally |
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pianohacker |
yo |
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tcohen |
hi pianohacker |
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* cait |
waves |
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tcohen |
hey cait |
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pianohacker |
hi tcohen |
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* cait |
waves |
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waves |
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* Oak |
waves |
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bag |
morning |
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oleonard |
Hi Oak |
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Oak |
Hello wizzyrea, cait |
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Oak |
heya oleonard |
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wahanui |
oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer |
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Oak |
hello bag |
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bag |
hi hi |
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Oak |
oleonard, I'll also ignore that same Plugins.pm message in future then... if all else looks OK. |
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oleonard |
Yeah I wish I knew why it did that. It makes me think some valid errors will slip through. |
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Oak |
hmm. Yes, that too. |
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reiveune |
bye |
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oleonard |
Joubu around? |
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Joubu |
oleonard: yep |
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oleonard |
Regarding Bug 3534... |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3534 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , Patron quick add form |
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oleonard |
I think the unanswered question is, how do you choose which version of the form is default? |
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oleonard |
If we take away the separate quick add button, then we have to choose a default |
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oleonard |
Maybe I'm thinking too much about it. I'm concerned that a library will want to have the option of patron quick add, but not want it to be default. |
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oleonard |
kidclamp I think your sponsor must want it to be default if PatronQuickAddFields is defined. |
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Joubu |
oleonard: I'd say the default is the current form |
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Joubu |
and a switch button would allow to switch to the quick form |
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Joubu |
I was thinking about some JS code to "enable" the button when the user is on the patron add form |
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Joubu |
but don't think it could work |
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kidclamp |
We could have a second pref: defaulttoquickadd |
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kidclamp |
I liked the second button because it took all of that decision away |
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kidclamp |
and let staff have either they wanted without deciding for all libraries |
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oleonard |
Yeah I'm thinking now that the second button is probably best. |
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kidclamp |
it could just say 'Quick add' instead of 'Quick add new patron' |
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oleonard |
It's not like we're running out of space in that toolbar. |
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Joubu |
oleonard: if you agree, I am fine with the second button |
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oleonard |
My suggestion for the toggle controls on the form itself: http://zivotdesign.com/p/#1/14616864787044 |
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kidclamp |
oleonard: is that a link with a fa icon? |
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oleonard |
Yes |
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kidclamp |
okay, will move buttons to top of both forms and convert to links |
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oleonard |
kidclamp: I can submit a followup for that if you'd like |
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kidclamp |
I wouldn't stop ya ;-) |
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kidclamp |
oleonard++ |
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Joubu |
oleonard: don't you think we should also be able to switch from full to quick? |
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oleonard |
Yes the link changes based on which view it is |
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oleonard |
Hey I'll bet you're bored and don't want to do work but you want to look busy so why not sign off on Bug 16238? The last patch is just a whitespace fix. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16238 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Upgrade jQuery in staff client: use .prop() instead of .attr() |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16328: follow-up for bug 15044 - Fix datatable error <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2b65b06b98ce61c34> |
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oleonard |
bgkriegel++ # Looking busy! |
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oleonard |
khall around? |
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khall |
what's up? |
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oleonard |
I just tried uploading a plugin and it failed. Is that something you've tested recently? |
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khall |
oleonard: can't say I have. I'll give it a shot as well |
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oleonard |
No visible error message. All I see in the log is something about "Use of uninitialized value $op in string eq" |
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kidclamp |
which plugin oleonard? |
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oleonard |
MARC checker |
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kidclamp |
did the upload fail or it just didn't show? |
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kidclamp |
and do you have all perl dependencies? |
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khall |
oleonard: I think that one needs extra libs |
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tcohen |
libmarc-lint-perl |
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khall |
that's the one |
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khall |
we need some kind of dependency declaration system for plugins |
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khall |
or docs with large bold text |
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khall |
oleonard: looks like the files didn't get installed, so that's not the issue |
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khall |
you should have gotten an error if the plugins dir wasn't writable |
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oleonard |
Okay yeah I didn't see the dependencies because instructions are for suckers and I'm a go-getter. |
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oleonard |
khall: Some plugins can uninstall themselves and some can't? |
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khall |
each plugin should have an uninstall sub for cleaning up after themselves |
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khall |
short answer, correct |
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khall |
oleonard: if it's one of mine I can update it it pretty easily for you |
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oleonard |
I'm just poking around at the moment, not trying to accomplish anything in particular except examine the way the templates work. |
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khall |
gotcha |
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oleonard |
I was curious why there was no uninstall link for the MARC checker plugin (which shows up now that the dependency is satisfied) |
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khall |
oleonard: I think we should maybe add a "force uninstall" option or some other way of allowing plugins to be uninstalled even if they don't have an uninstall method |
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khall |
no real reason not to |
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cait |
there are some reamining bugs with edifact - like the obsolete link on tools that leads nowhere - is someone working on those? |
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cait |
also a problem with the preferences |
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oleonard |
The "EDIfact messages" page in Acquisitions doesn't show any means of adding an EDIfact message. Shouldn't it? |
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oleonard |
Or is that something which is added by the process? |
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oleonard |
I know nothing about it. |
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bag |
added by the process |
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cait |
bag: check the tools page - there is another edifact messages there |
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cait |
i think we need to remove it |
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bag |
ah I thought we already did |
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cait |
still there |
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cait |
there is also a bit of a mess with preferences - one is showing up under local use, tcohen filed a bug for it, all linked from the main one |
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bag |
yup we’re on it cait |
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bag |
khall: is looking at it now |
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cait |
cool |
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oleonard |
How do you manually remove a plugin if it doesn't have an uninstall link? |
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oleonard |
I guess you can just manually construct an uninstall link using the class name. |
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oleonard |
Does a "correct" uninstall remove data from the plugin_data table? |
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oleonard |
I will take my answer off the air |
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andreashm |
hey #koha |
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tcohen |
hey andreashm |
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andreashm |
hi tcohen! |
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andreashm |
what's up? |
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tcohen |
hey |
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tcohen |
i'm trying to code a bit |
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andreashm |
nice! |
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andreashm |
Anyone know of any good examples of libraries using Koha as a OAI-PMH server? (For use with a Discovery system) |
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andreashm |
tcohen: how's spring in Argentina? |
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tcohen |
we are entering autuum |
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andreashm |
oh yeah, sorry |
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tcohen |
@wunder cordoba, argentina |
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tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 14.9°C (5:30 PM ART on April 26, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady). |
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andreashm |
@wunder Sion, Switzerland |
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huginn |
andreashm: The current temperature in Sion military, Switzerland is 9.0°C (9:50 PM CEST on April 26, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Rising). |
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pianohacker |
andreashm: you may wish to get in touch with dcook |
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cait |
andreashm: I know of a library using it with ebsco's discovery layer |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: DBRev for Bug 12478 - Elasticsearch support for Koha <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]618790f516b5889c5> / Bug 12748: (QA followup) make new tests pass <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]87cc27ae59c53bcf9> / Bug 12748: (QA followup) fix several tiny QA tools warnings <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]web/?p=koha.git;a |
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tcohen |
woooooooooooooooooooooooooooohooooooooo |
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tcohen |
@later tell andreashm I didn't read your question, I have some customers using EDS with the Koha I provide |
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huginn |
tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12478: (RM followup) fix syntax error in updatedatabase.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0916afd4e1e16cc8c> |
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andreashm |
back |
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andreashm |
got logged out |
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tcohen |
hi andreashm |
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andreashm |
cait, tcohen: did you have examples that use oai? |
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tcohen |
i'm about to leave |
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tcohen |
did you have a specific question? |
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cait |
andreashm: we just turned it on for ebsco - and they use it |
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cait |
no questions |
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andreashm |
just good examples of how it works, to provide info via oai |
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tcohen |
we had to make items available through OAI |
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bag |
@later tell Joubu can you rebase this for me? https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=14899 (I’ll get some testers on that immediately) thanks |
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cait |
it seemed like they already used oai with other kohas |
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huginn |
bag: The operation succeeded. |
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huginn |
Bug 14899: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Mapping configuration page for Elastic search |
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tcohen |
bag++ |
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tcohen |
rangi++ |
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tcohen |
koha++ |
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tcohen |
es++ |
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andreashm |
saw on an old post on the mailinglist that using oai wasn't sufficient for real time availability checking (with eds) |
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cait |
we are using a daia api |
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cait |
it's developed on top of Koha's SRU i think |
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andreashm |
daia? |
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tcohen |
ah |
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cait |
so SRU might be fast enough |
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tcohen |
andreashm: thats's correct |
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tcohen |
you need to allow remote access to the SRU server |
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tcohen |
so they query availability |
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andreashm |
ah, cool |
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wizzyrea |
[09:13] <tcohen> we had to make items available through OAI < I feel like we've done this as well |
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tcohen |
so, enable OAI + include_items |
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wizzyrea |
dunno eythian did all of that |
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wizzyrea |
also hi |
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* andreashm |
waves |
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tcohen |
and then make sure they can access your SRU server |
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tcohen |
hi wizzyrea |
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cait |
andreashm: 'document availability information api' - my coworker built a server for providing it to the different ILS we support - but i know he uses SRU underneath |
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* tcohen |
leaves |
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tcohen |
bye everyone |
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andreashm |
bye tcohen! thanks for the info! |
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tcohen |
koha++ |
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tcohen |
:-P |
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andreashm |
tcohen++ |
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andreashm |
cait++ |
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bag |
tcohen++ |
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bag |
Bug 16249 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16249 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Passed QA , Zebra-specific tests should pass with ES disabled |
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wizzyrea |
https://t.co/h5E91nYrt4 eythian you would kick ass at this. |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16249: Zebra-specific tests should pass with ES disabled <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]582ff0ca21f7f51e5> |
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cait |
huh |
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andreashm |
does bug 15165 apply for anyone else? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15165 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, Needs Signoff , REST API routes to list, edit and pay borrower's accountlines |
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andreashm |
We have tested it at Stockhol Univ and I wanted to apply to do a sign-off, but can't apply it here |
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andreashm |
heh. Stockholm. |
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cait |
did you apply the dependency? |
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andreashm |
cait: ah, I missed that. will try again. thanks! |
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cait |
np |
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andreashm |
yay, it worked! |
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andreashm |
but now it's getting late, have to finish that tomorrow. |
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andreashm |
cait++ |
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andreashm |
bye #koha |
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francesca |
Good morning |
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wahanui |
well, it's morning somewhere, yes |
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I'll be in sometime in the next hour or so |
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cool |
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cait |
ah, too bad oleonard is gone already |
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cait |
keep wanting to ask him questions |
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cait |
khall_away: ? |
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pianohacker |
he's away ;) |
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pianohacker |
what's up cait |
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cait |
ah, i left a comment |
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pianohacker |
oh, interesting |
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wahanui |
interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16354 - TestBuilder.t fails due to key constraints <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3b66bb638ddc54986> |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16154: Fix some other occurrences <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6bfe2f375ccc9b713> / Bug 16154: CGI->multi_param - Assign a list <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]813071951bc600ae4> / Bug 16154: CGI->multi_param - Force scalar context <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]iff;h=f3e4b5bbb6b |
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bag |
rangi if I missed any of the ES bugs that need to be moved to Pushed to Master - let me know - I think I grabbed them all |
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rangi |
cool will do |
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rangi |
bag: do have ssh access to any of the jenkins nodes? |
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rangi |
they will need a couple of modules installed |
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bag |
no - I usually ask tcohen to install those |
