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salut, gaetan_B |
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hi #koha |
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morning! |
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hi LibraryClaire |
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hi Joubu |
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hey marcelr :) |
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drojf |
morning |
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hi drojf :) |
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hi LibraryClaire :) |
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LibraryClaire |
happy Friday! |
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drojf |
:) |
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drojf |
i'm my own boss, so i don't have a weekend ;) |
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magnuse |
friday? |
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wahanui |
friday is pizzaday |
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magnuse |
yay! |
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drojf |
hei magnuse |
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drojf |
@wunder berlin, germany |
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drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 9.0°C (9:50 AM CEST on April 08, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
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mmmm pizza :D |
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LibraryClaire |
@wunder LCY |
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LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London City, United Kingdom is 8.0°C (8:50 AM BST on April 08, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
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kivilahtio |
We have syspref ' OpacRenewalBranch '. This works for OPAC. Is there a way to define the same rules for the staff client? |
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kivilahtio |
If not is somebody working on it? |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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magnuse |
"This value is used in the statistics table to help with reporting. The statistics table in Koha keeps track of all checkouts and renewals, this preference defines which branch is entered in to the table when a patron renews an item for themselves via the OPAC." |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: yes |
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magnuse |
kivilahtio: you want to record a different branch than the one where the renewal is actually done? |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: we need the same feature in the staff lcient |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: in staff client |
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kivilahtio |
I am about to code it, just asking if there is a bug on it in Bugzilla, as I couldn't find one |
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kivilahtio |
we just noticed thatthe renewals are stored "wrongly" |
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kivilahtio |
shortest path is to use the same syspref in the staff client as well |
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kivilahtio |
which is also the most maintainable |
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wahanui |
okay, kivilahtio. |
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magnuse |
having a syspref called OpacRenewalBranch decide things in the intranet sounds wrong, though |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: absolutely |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: I could refactor 'OpacRenewalBranch', but then I would have to maintaint thta change against master for 3 years |
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kivilahtio |
if i dont refactor the syspref, there is less to maintain :) |
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kivilahtio |
the novelties of the community process :) |
| 08:33 |
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magnuse |
i think it should be two different sysprefs |
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kivilahtio |
do you think there are two ways of statisticizing a renewal? |
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cait |
marcelr: around? :) |
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kivilahtio |
we have too many sysprefs already |
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marcelr |
hi cait |
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magnuse |
people might want to use OpacRenewalBranch but still keep the current functionality in the intranet |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: true |
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cait |
i agree about the test mode bug - the changes to cart etc. seem unnecessary |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: can you figure out a single use case where this is not a bug? |
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cait |
did you see my comment about the option of using Koha/Email.pm to centrlaize the change? |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: hmm |
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kivilahtio |
maybe it is because the branch doing the renewal actualyl does manual work and the |
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kivilahtio |
renewal statistics is a reward for them for servicing other patrons |
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magnuse |
well, recording the branch of the currently logged in librarian who is doing the renewal sounds very logical to me |
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marcelr |
cait: yes i saw your comment |
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kivilahtio |
yes |
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kivilahtio |
I wonder why we are doing it this way? |
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cait |
ok :) |
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kivilahtio |
it sounds kinda wrong |
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magnuse |
recording the branch of the librarian who does the actual work sounds perfectly right to me |
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kivilahtio |
thanks magnuse: I keep asking |
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LibraryClaire |
magnuse: agree |
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kivilahtio |
I jsust got 3 nagry librarians telling me that this is how we have always done it |
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cait |
other systems differentiate renewals... but that's a whole other can of worms |
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magnuse |
...and that is why we need a new syspref, to keep the current behaviour as the default |
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cait |
phone, opac, other... automatic.. different counters |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: or, try to convince the librarians to change their mind |
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kivilahtio |
cait: what do you mean? |
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kivilahtio |
we could store to the statistics-table how the renewal was done? |
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magnuse |
that might be an interesting thing to track, akshuly |
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kivilahtio |
yes |
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kivilahtio |
when you do a renewal you could have a radial dialog asking to choose the type how the renewal was done, phone/"visit to library" |
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kivilahtio |
but I guess there was a saying "another can of worms" :) |
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magnuse |
yup |
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kivilahtio |
thanks magnuse and cait, I will postpone this to a lower priority. They can hung me if they can :) |
| 08:45 |
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magnuse |
kivilahtio: how is koha doing in finland these days? is the company up and running? are you working for it? |
| 08:46 |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: we are founding the KohaSuomi Oy this summer, prolly in a couple of months |
| 08:46 |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: we have a LOT of people queueing to get to Koha |
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kivilahtio |
it is strange considering how bad it occasionalyl is |
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magnuse |
yay |
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kivilahtio |
but every day things get a bit better |
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kivilahtio |
but we have a long way to go |
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kivilahtio |
we aremaking a big version upgrade this summer, from 3.16 to 3.24 with over 300 own commits |
| 08:47 |
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kivilahtio |
but we have page object test and jasmine BDD to cover our ass |
| 08:47 |
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kivilahtio |
I hope we can make the refactoring |
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kivilahtio |
targeting to start migrating Koha to Mojolicous completely after the version upgrade on intergrating ElastiSearch |
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magnuse |
um, ok |
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kivilahtio |
*and integrating ElasticSearch |
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magnuse |
koha haarukka? |
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drojf |
so you have a fork in finland? |
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kivilahtio |
interesting :) |
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kivilahtio |
drojf: looks like it :) |
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kivilahtio |
there is no way we can wait for the community process to introduce new features |
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kivilahtio |
it would be simply impossible to use Koha in Finland that way |
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kivilahtio |
we have legal requirements for ex that need to be fulfilled, then library usage rules cannot be 100% implemented using Koha's configuration mechanisms |
| 08:49 |
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drojf |
hm. if you check the list of enhancements, there are a lot of people handing in things and waiting, because we do not have enough testers. sorry it's too slow for you, biut it is slow for everyone |
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kivilahtio |
a lot of integrations to 3rd. parties |
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kivilahtio |
drojf: i know |
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kivilahtio |
drojf: I am not putting blame on anyone |
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kivilahtio |
this is just a fact we have to deal with |
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kivilahtio |
and we could budget worktime to work with the community and I try to squeese some occasionally |
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kivilahtio |
like hiring trainees to test stuff :) |
| 08:51 |
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kivilahtio |
too bad we have a long list of stuff to do |
| 08:51 |
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kivilahtio |
I have been avoiding the word "haarukka" |
| 08:51 |
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kivilahtio |
but I yeah, it looks like we have forked on many levels now |
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drojf |
we need to breed a new generation of testers. we can't wait until the kids of the koha devs are old enough to make them test ;) |
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magnuse |
is there a long term goal for the fork to be temporary? |
| 08:52 |
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magnuse |
and eventually get stuff into koha? |
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drojf |
if you got a lot of interest in finland, you could try to get lbrarians to take part in testing |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: considering the pace at which features are adopted and the heated debate about the technical implementations not working for everybody,, I must bend toward pessimism in this case |
| 08:53 |
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kivilahtio |
drojf: I dont really trust this librarian testing thing |
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kivilahtio |
drojf: they really cannot say if the feature is goodfor production. They can make acceptance testing which is very different from code review |
| 08:54 |
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kivilahtio |
drojf: and the Koha codebase is very annoying to work with. after these years it is really getting under my skin |
| 08:54 |
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kivilahtio |
drojf: one of my biggest gripes is MARC::Record |
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kivilahtio |
I always need better support for accessing standard data elements from the record, like title, author, isbn, ean, languages |
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kivilahtio |
etc |
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kivilahtio |
all i get is title = 245, even tho it is much more |
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kivilahtio |
so painful |
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kivilahtio |
also writing tests is so hard |
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kivilahtio |
luckily we have our own infrastructure to make them so it is much much easier nowadays but it tooks us a lot of time to write TestObjectFactories and PageObjects |
| 08:56 |
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kivilahtio |
the positive thing I am happy about is that it works :) |
| 08:56 |
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kivilahtio |
and we can run our libraries in Finland |
| 08:56 |
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kivilahtio |
and there are a lot of libraries wanting to use Koha |
| 08:56 |
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kivilahtio |
I guess it is the ideology and huge cost savings |
| 08:56 |
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kivilahtio |
and huge decrease in productivity |
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* magnuse |
wishes the fins the best of luck and wanders off to find lunch |
| 08:57 |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: you too! |
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* LibraryClaire |
wishes it was lunch time |
| 08:58 |
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drojf |
kivilahtio: you could probably enhance MARC::Record if you want. i think gmcharlt wrote it |
| 08:58 |
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kivilahtio |
I wish I lived in a perfect world |
| 08:58 |
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kivilahtio |
drojf: he did |
| 08:58 |
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kivilahtio |
drojf: and a bunch of others |
| 08:58 |
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kivilahtio |
drojf: there are also other marc implemetnations |
| 08:59 |
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kivilahtio |
they look pretty swell |
| 08:59 |
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drojf |
regarding librarians testing, i'd say that depends on the feature. i don't see how a librarian using a sandbox and following a test plan is different from a programmer for smaller things. actually i think for UI and workflow stuff it would be better to have more librarians test it. maybe not so relevant for the hardcore changes you work on |
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kivilahtio |
drojf: I agree |
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drojf |
are you coming to kohacon? |
| 09:00 |
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kivilahtio |
drojf: I think from Finland there is a rather big delegation coming |
| 09:01 |
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kivilahtio |
I would like to talk about the stuff we do |
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kivilahtio |
but I feel depressed about it already |
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drojf |
why is that? |
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kivilahtio |
I guess in Kohacon taking face to face it will be a lot different than in IRC |
| 09:01 |
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kivilahtio |
drojf: thinking about the impossiblity of getting big changes to Koha |
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kivilahtio |
drojf: big changes that must happen |
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kivilahtio |
like complete overhaul of the CGI architecture |
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kivilahtio |
complete overhaul of the testing framework |
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kivilahtio |
or actualyl having a testing framework |
| 09:02 |
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kivilahtio |
actually minifyinfg all web assets |
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kivilahtio |
and merging them |
| 09:02 |
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wahanui |
somebody said merging them was the wrong idea |
| 09:03 |
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kivilahtio |
but I guesss there will be less than 10 persons coming to KohaCon from Finland |
| 09:03 |
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kivilahtio |
not sure if we have registrated yet, so might be that we wont be coming if it is full |
| 09:03 |
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kivilahtio |
developing a javascript framework to support Koha internals |
| 09:03 |
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drojf |
they are at ~170. you should register now ;) |
| 09:04 |
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kivilahtio |
this is a big issue for me., since we are writing more complex javascript GUI's by the day and the lack of infrastucture there makes things difficult |
| 09:04 |
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kivilahtio |
what we have with the Mojolicious Swagger2 REST API is great |
| 09:04 |
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kivilahtio |
I just finished CORS support for it :) |
| 09:04 |
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kivilahtio |
it makes writing the front end much smoother |
| 09:05 |
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drojf |
i think the community is not really capable of keeping up with your speed |
| 09:05 |
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kivilahtio |
also having to think constantly how to get around limitations in Koha, instead of refactoring the codebase to keep it healthy |
| 09:05 |
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kivilahtio |
so we have a hope of upgrading to the new community version |
| 09:06 |
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kivilahtio |
drojf: but this is how i feel currently :) |
| 09:06 |
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kivilahtio |
drojf: currently I am working to improve our Koha to act as a national cataloguing center for all Koha users in Finland |
| 09:06 |
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kivilahtio |
so lots of system-to-system communication |
| 09:06 |
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drojf |
wow, you got a lot of plans :) |
| 09:07 |
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kivilahtio |
so we have one central repository of cataloguing, and that is automatically reflected to all Kohas in Finland |
| 09:07 |
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kivilahtio |
drojf: I have a nice screencast about it already |
| 09:07 |
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kivilahtio |
it is very awkward so I havent shared it outside of our core users |
| 09:08 |
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drojf |
come on, share it :) |
| 09:08 |
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kivilahtio |
it nighly pulls cataloguing records from a central repository to overlay local records, we get when we acquire items |
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kivilahtio |
drojf: Also we have a GUI to make print labels |
| 09:08 |
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kivilahtio |
so you can drag and drop elements to make anykind of a print label you need |
| 09:10 |
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drojf |
did you check bug 10662? that may be interesting for you |
| 09:10 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10662 new feature, P3, ---, dcook, In Discussion , Build OAI-PMH Harvesting Client |
| 09:11 |
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kivilahtio |
drojf: thanks! OAI-PMH is a part of the cataloguin center and other integrations we need to do |
| 09:14 |
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kivilahtio |
drojf: here is a ton of schematics and the feature development hub |
| 09:14 |
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kivilahtio |
https://renki.pohjoiskarjala.net:8090/issues/671 |
| 09:14 |
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drojf |
i started setting it up yesterday but have not really started testing |
| 09:16 |
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drojf |
thanks! |
| 09:16 |
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drojf |
got to change the office. see you later |
| 09:16 |
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kivilahtio |
nice! I don't have to write our own OAI-PMH harvester :) |
| 09:16 |
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kivilahtio |
you too! take care! |
| 09:22 |
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Joubu |
kivilahtio: you are getting old, you are rambling |
| 09:22 |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: I am also a father :) |
| 09:22 |
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wahanui |
okay, kivilahtio. |
| 09:23 |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: I should have a break from work |
| 09:24 |
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kivilahtio |
Buddha said, all pain and uncomfort comes from expectation/want. |
| 09:24 |
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kivilahtio |
Knowledge increases pain |
| 09:24 |
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kivilahtio |
I dont know what to think :) |
| 09:24 |
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kivilahtio |
I know so I want |
| 09:24 |
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kivilahtio |
and I am impatient, more so than our librarians |
| 09:25 |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: does that count as rambling? |
| 09:26 |
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Joubu |
to have knowledge and to be impatient, no |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: but you don't agree with the rest of it? |
| 09:32 |
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Joubu |
sorry, do not have the time to troll^Wdiscuss about that |
| 09:32 |
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kivilahtio |
good :) |
| 09:32 |
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Joubu |
Koha community is slow blablabla |
| 09:32 |
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kivilahtio |
it is not your fault |
| 09:32 |
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Joubu |
does not take the right decision, etc. |
| 09:32 |
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kivilahtio |
I am also wrong :) |
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wahanui |
okay, kivilahtio. |
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kivilahtio |
occasionally |
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i am trying to get coverpages in OPAC i installed koha coverflow plugin |
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in configuration when i cut paste following it throws error - id: 86 selector: #coverflow options: style: coverflow |
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Error: YAML Error: Invalid element in sequence Code: YAML_LOAD_ERR_BAD_SEQ_ELEMENT Line: 2 Document: 1 at /usr/local/share/perl/5.18.2/YAML/Loader.pm line 377. |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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Oak |
Hello oleonard |
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oleonard |
Ugh... the changes I made in Bug 15692 got undone somewhere along the line |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15692 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Move some patron entry form JavaScript into members.js |
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oleonard |
Immediately after, in fact :( |
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drojf |
huh? |
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drojf |
pushed a non-rebased patch? |
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drojf |
or how does that happen? |
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Oak |
what is the best way to test koha patches (apply patch + unit test + signoff) currently? Link? |
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kidclamp |
Oak - I would suggest starting on the sandboxes, but i f you need to do unit tests you will need to setup a dev environment, either koha-gitify or kohadevbox (ansible branch) are the easiest ways I know to get started |
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kidclamp |
https://github.com/mkfifo/koha-gitify |
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kidclamp |
https://github.com/digibib/koh[…]vbox/tree/ansible |
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Oak |
Thanks. Let me check these. |
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drojf |
oh look, i harvested a record |
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drojf |
dcook++ |
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kidclamp |
huzzah! |
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magnuse |
yay! |
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magnuse |
dcook++ |
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kivilahtio |
ashimema: jajm: Joubu: can you comment on Bug 14974? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14974 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Use the REST API for cities |
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Joubu |
I ask for months to see code, I don't want to talk, just want to see code :) |
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jajm |
kivilahtio, never saw angularjs in action, can't say anything about it |
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ashimema |
My angular man is out today.. but i can get him to look on monday if he can squeeze it in |
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ashimema |
as for me.. i'm mid migrations at the moment so can't take the time out for such a context switch |
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kivilahtio |
ashimema: ok take care! |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: I understand. You didnät pm me |
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kivilahtio |
:) |
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kivilahtio |
just explained to jajm that I get so much mail all the notifications dont work for me |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: jajm: ashimema: are you against AngularJS? |
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kivilahtio |
could you accept it as the javascript framework for Koha |
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kivilahtio |
I mean you must have a hunch? |
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cait |
benjamin++ |
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kivilahtio |
without knowing much about it. Imho there are so many frameworks and styles the making an informed deision is next to impossible. Much like with Mojolicious |
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kivilahtio |
khall seems to strongly believe in AngularJS |
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kivilahtio |
I am sure it is not a bad choice |
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kivilahtio |
maybe not the best either :) |
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oleonard |
kivilahtio: When you say "the javascript framework for Koha" you mean to replace jQuery? |
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kivilahtio |
oleonard: I guess I mean AngularJS vs Flux vs RiotJS |
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jajm |
kivilahtio, i feel that it will be hard to move from angularjs to something else when angular will become "not cool", like so many js frameworks tends to become, and i don't know the benefits of it |
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kivilahtio |
thanks |
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oleonard |
kivilahtio: Meaning it would be used for a specific type of functionality? |
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kivilahtio |
oleonard: for writing the whole front end SPA |
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kivilahtio |
or bunch of SPAs |
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kivilahtio |
depending on how we build the front end |
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kivilahtio |
I believe we should refactor Koha towards a SPA-type application |
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kivilahtio |
ha a own app for Acquisition |
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kivilahtio |
have a separate app for Cataloguing, like Rancor |
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kivilahtio |
hence we need some framework to support that development and act as a common guideline/pattern for everybody developing the front end |
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kivilahtio |
oleonard: how does that sound like? |
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oleonard |
kivilahtio: It sounds like a lot of work! :) |
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kivilahtio |
oleonard: yes, and a huge benefit |
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kivilahtio |
oleonard: of course it doesnt mean that we scrap the existing GUI's |
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oleonard |
kivilahtio: I will take a lot of effort to convince everyone to start using a framework that few are familiar with. |
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kivilahtio |
oleonard: with the REST API in use we must start using a good javascript framework. We are making very responsive improvements to Koha with the REST API |
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kivilahtio |
it is miraculous, even magica to our librarians who are used to Koha pageloading 2-5 seconds, things happen instantly |
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kivilahtio |
migrating to plack helps a lot but we can go much further with a SPA. |
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kivilahtio |
oleonard: but I agree that convincing everybody is a big challenge |
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kivilahtio |
have a nice weekend! |
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oleonard |
You too kivilahtio |
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drojf |
ok harvesting (downloading) works, but importing into koha does not. i only got a leader field that is broken |
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drojf |
anyway, cool start |
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magnuse |
SPA is single page application |
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magnuse |
i presume? |
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magnuse |
spa? |
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wahanui |
somebody said spa was single page application |
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oleonard |
There you go magnuse. wahanui knew. |
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magnuse |
i'd call that a self fulfilling prophecy :-) |
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* magnuse |
wanders off to make pizza |
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Spartan01 |
hello anyone online? |
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Spartan01 |
need help with a koha installation |
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oleonard |
Spartan01: Ask your question and if anyone knows they answer they can try to help |
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Spartan01 |
Am running Linux Mint |
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Spartan01 |
After installing koha-common, am failing to create an instance |
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Spartan01 |
the error is "failed to load external entity "/etc/koha/sites/–create-db/koha-conf.xml" |
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drojf |
that looks like you issued the wrong command |
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drojf |
what does your koha-create command look like? |
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Spartan01 |
my command was sudo koha-create –create-db library |
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Spartan01 |
"sudo koha-create –create-db library" |
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drojf |
hm yes |
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drojf |
its "koha-create --create-db library" |
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drojf |
you set up a library named -create-db now, not one named library, and you did not create a db |
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drojf |
try "koha-remove -create-db" and then start again |
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drojf |
(i am confused that worked at all, i thought you get an error if you do that) |
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Spartan01 |
thanks mate |
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drojf |
it looks like you actually got an en-dash, not a minus in front of your "create". maybe you need "koha-remove –create-db" |
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drojf |
i think i should make pizza too |
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oleonard |
I think you should make me pizza too. |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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drojf |
oleonard: it's probably cold when it arrives at your place |
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drojf |
hi mtompset |
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mtompset |
Greetings, drojf. |
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* mtompset |
let's out a big breath. |
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mtompset |
Finally! Bug 11592 is ready for sign off. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11592 major, P3, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , opac detail scripts do not respect MARC tag visibility |
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mtompset |
Next pain... back to bug 1058 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1058 major, P2, ---, chris, CLOSED FIXED, Intranet detail screen does not show lost or cancelled statuses |
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mtompset |
bug 10589 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10589 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Failed QA , Override OpacHiddenItems based on Patron Category |
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barton |
@seen tcohen |
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huginn |
barton: tcohen was last seen in #koha 22 hours, 29 minutes, and 48 seconds ago: <tcohen> I signed, and Joubu got involved |
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Joubu |
bye! |
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reiveune |
bye |
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kidclamp |
have agood weekend Joubu |
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drojf |
harvested and imported a record via OAI-PMH. woohoo |
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oleonard |
Is turning DEBUG on in Koha something people typically do during development, or only for testing something specific? Or never? |
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oleonard |
Or is there another good way to identify that the user is in testing vs. production? |
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tcohen |
hi |
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wahanui |
bonjour, tcohen |
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oleonard |
cait around? |
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You guys are making me feel like a chump for working this late on a Friday afternoon. |
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