IRC log for #koha, 2016-02-01

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03:34 Amit_Gupta hi all
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06:05 mveron Good morning / daytime #koha
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07:27 * magnuse waves
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07:45 reiveune hello
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07:51 alex_a bonjour
07:51 wahanui que tal, alex_a
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08:27 cait gmcharlt: can you take a look at packaging the dependency Template::Stash::AutoEscaping ? (bug 13618) the patches have been pushed to master now
08:27 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13618 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Prevent XSS in the Staff Client and the OPAC
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09:21 marcelr hi #koha
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09:23 drojf morning #koha
09:30 Joubu morning #koha
09:33 marcelr hi drojf and Joubu
09:49 drojf hi Joubu and marcelr
09:56 cait hi drojf and marcelr
09:56 marcelr hi cait
09:56 * cait dives into currency rates this morning
09:57 marcelr success :)
09:58 drojf i added a field to borrowers. when i use ModMember to update it (with borrowernumber and the new field), nothing happens. when i update 'initials' instead, it works?
09:58 cait ?
09:58 cait what did you change?
09:58 cait i think it's 2 different routines with lots of ??????? that you need to change
09:59 cait and did you also change deletedborrowers?
10:01 drojf oh ok. then i was a bit naive perhaps :D i expected it to work with just a new field in the db and using that in the ModMember call :D
10:05 drojf i will look into it later, thanks
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10:08 kdui82d hi
10:08 wahanui kia ora, kdui82d
10:09 kdui82d i like to change the facet, how can I do that? I would like to use an existing MARC field  as a separete facet filter
10:12 cait kdui82d: it can not be done easily right now - you'd have to change your koha code
10:17 kdui82d Can you say where, Search.pm?
10:20 kdui82d lib/C4/Koha.pm:sub getFacets
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10:32 cait hm possible Koha.pm yes
10:32 cait and also the include template file
10:32 cait and possible the indexing
10:43 kdui82d zebradb/marc_defs/marc21/bibl​ios/biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml
10:44 kdui82d zebradb/marc_defs/marc21/bibli​os/biblio-zebra-indexdefs.xsl
10:44 kdui82d Working on it, thanks.
10:45 cait you change the xml
10:45 cait then run a script to generate the xsl
10:45 cait don't change it manually
10:54 kdui82d OK thanks trying https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]d_new_zebra_index
11:31 lari hey, is it possible to search for component part (a song for example) and then limit the search result to only show host records?
12:10 cait lari: hm not easily i think
12:10 cait lari: the host record doesn't know of its children usually (in marc)
12:11 cait it depends on how you have cataloged it i guess - maybe you could exclude them by type
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12:40 oleonard Hi #koha
12:43 cait hi oleonard
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12:49 oleonard " It will probably not work for other ancient stuff, like pyramids." HA!
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13:09 cait heh
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13:14 oleonard "Evergreem"
13:15 cait hm missed that
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13:23 barton dcook++ for care and attention in 'New Zebra Version 2.0.62' message in [koha-devel]
13:25 cait oleonard: appears fixed
13:27 * oleonard takes credit for that
13:27 cait as you shoudl :)
13:27 cait oleonard++
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13:49 lds hello
13:49 wahanui hi, lds
13:49 cait hi lds
13:52 tcohen hi
13:54 tcohen joubu, thanks for reporting, it seems an autoremove, well, removed it :-D
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13:59 Joubu tcohen: hum?
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14:10 * tcohen unhides
14:10 tcohen Joubu: DBIx::Connector missing
14:11 Joubu ha yep!
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14:58 gmcharlt cait: will do later this week (re package)
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15:13 lds Joubu: t'es là ?
15:14 cait gmcharlt: great thx!
15:16 Joubu lds: yep :)
15:17 lds Joubu: tu peux m'aider à expliquer quelque chose à thomas avec mon anglais j'ai dumal
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15:29 circ-user-ePCJy hello,
15:30 circ-user-ePCJy i have install koha on vps and i want to configure koha for send mail alert
15:30 circ-user-ePCJy anyone can help me please?
15:34 oleonard How did you install it circ-user-ePCJy ? Package?
15:35 circ-user-ePCJy package
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15:35 oleonard Did you do this step? https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]n_packages#E-mail
15:36 oleonard Although I don't know if it's enabled or not by default
15:36 circ-user-ePCJy do its required to install mail server on koha ?
15:37 kidclamp circ-user-ePCJy, I use these to get email running on my vms, but i can't say how proper it would be for a production sites: http://kohageek.pbworks.com/w/[…]ces%20from%20Koha
15:38 tcohen circ-user-ePCJy: Koha uses localhost as SMTP server
15:39 tcohen well, it uses the sendmail command
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15:40 circ-user-ePCJy on configure as u refere why its require gmail user name and password
15:42 kidclamp circ-user-ePCJy because those instructions set it up to use a gmail account
15:43 kidclamp gmail actually requires an app password now, at least last time i set it up
15:43 circ-user-ePCJy can we setup without gmail ?
15:44 kidclamp you can set it up with your chosen provider or run your own mail server.  Was just sharing an example
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16:00 oleonard circ-user-ePCJy_: Did that answer your question?
16:00 circ-user-ePCJy_ yes
16:00 circ-user-ePCJy_ i check for that
16:00 circ-user-ePCJy_ i install koha on debian
16:01 circ-user-ePCJy_ but the configure for ubuntu
16:01 circ-user-ePCJy_ i wonder if its work on debian
16:04 oleonard circ-user-ePCJy_: As far as I know they should be similar enough
16:15 circ-user-ePCJy_ ok
16:15 circ-user-ePCJy_ thank
16:16 oleonard Few things are as confusing as forgetting you turned on "IndependentBranches" for testing purposes...
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16:20 oleonard Hm, on the other hand it doesn't explain why I can't get  OPACViewOthersSuggestions to work...
16:22 Joubu oleonard: what does not work?
16:22 chris_n interesting bit of pointy-bracket history: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IdlBFaifcs
16:23 oleonard Joubu: I don't see others' suggestions in the OPAC!
16:28 Joubu oleonard: I do on master on opac-suggestions.pl?suggested_by_anyone=1
16:29 oleonard Oh you're right. I thought that the "Purchase suggestions" link up above was supposed to do that by default if the pref was enabled.
16:29 oleonard Thanks
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17:05 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
17:06 mtompset oleonard: Almost same time as barton. Wiki page tweaked. :)
17:07 oleonard Thanks mtompset. I think you and barton should continuously overwrite each other's changes to that page until one of you gives up.
17:08 bag morning
17:08 mtompset He put it on the mailing list. I tweaked the wiki page.
17:11 barton mtompset: I wasn't sure what the impliations of appending '[Signed Off]' to the commit message would be for git bz, wanted to ask around before I changed the wiki.
17:12 mtompset worse case I can think of is [signed off][signed off]
17:12 Joubu I don't see the usefulness to put the status in the patch msg
17:13 Joubu We have the status of the bug report and the signed-off-by line
17:13 barton I wasn't sure if git bz would properly obsolete attachments if the message changed.
17:13 mtompset We do have cases where some patches are signed off, but not all.
17:13 barton ^^ if the first line of the message changed.
17:13 Joubu in these cases, all the patch set should be tested
17:14 mtompset Hmmm.... valid point.
17:15 mtompset And since all should be tested, the signed off is really not necessary on the status line.
17:18 barton I tihnk that having a visual marker in `git-log --oneline` and/or the patch set in bugzilla is not a bad thing, as long as it doesn't get in the way of our tools.
17:20 mtompset Well, one thing I have been annoyed by is sometimes I had something [SIGNED-OFF] and the sign-off process somehow removes the [SIGNED-OFF], and it doesn't obsolete correctly when git bz'ing it back up to bugzilla.
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17:41 oleonard Adding "[SIGNED-OFF]" to signed off patches is part of our established procedure. It's in the wiki's instructions for signing off on patches.
17:42 oleonard If we want to change that procedure it should probably be brought up at a meeting.
17:42 drojf the wiki is out of date on a lot of rhings
17:42 pianohacker I think it's been fading for passed qa
17:42 pianohacker but I still agree with oleonard
17:42 drojf not saying how it should be
17:42 drojf but referring to the wiki as the source of things would require an up to date wiki, and we do not have that in so many ways
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17:44 oleonard If we're talking about commonly agreed upon procedures, we need to be able to either cite the wiki or a meeting log.
17:45 oleonard ...and if  a meeting log contradicts the wiki, the wiki should be corrected obviously.
17:46 drojf i agree
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18:24 * cait waves
18:25 nengard hi cait
18:26 nengard does anyone know what bernardo's nick is?
18:45 oleonard @seen bgkriegel
18:45 huginn` oleonard: bgkriegel was last seen in #koha 9 weeks, 3 days, 22 hours, 52 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: <bgkriegel> tcohen++
18:45 oleonard nengard: ^^
18:48 * oleonard wonders if we should "@seen" everyone on the IRC Regulars list and demote people to "formerly regular"
18:48 oleonard @seen sekjal
18:48 huginn` oleonard: sekjal was last seen in #koha 1 year, 20 weeks, 2 days, 19 hours, 54 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: <sekjal> :)
18:48 nengard wow ....
18:48 nengard 9 weeks
18:49 nengard I need him to help with the manual html thingy ... can anyone else do that?
18:49 pianohacker nengard: ?
18:49 druthb @seen druthb
18:49 huginn` druthb: druthb was last seen in #koha 5 days, 3 hours, 18 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: <druthb> mhm
18:49 nengard @later tell bgkriegel the manual is ready for 3.22 and a 3.24 branch
18:49 huginn` nengard: The operation succeeded.
18:49 pianohacker druthb: you broke your lurking streak!
18:49 druthb you people see more of me than *I* do.
18:49 nengard pianohacker http://translate.koha-community.org/manual/
18:49 nengard we're missing 3.20, 3.22, 3.24
18:50 * druthb listens for someone's parser breaking...
18:50 oleonard It's like the world hide-and-seek championship. One of these days sekjal is going to give up and reveal himself.
18:50 nengard the links on the koha site are broken
18:50 nengard who manages translate.koha-community.org ?
18:51 nengard last update on the manual was almost a year ago
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18:56 cait nengard: best to email him
18:56 cait he is not much on IRC
18:58 nengard cait I did - he hasn't answered
18:58 nengard emailed him with each branch of the manual
18:58 nengard thought I'd try here
18:58 nengard we need to be sure that more than one person can do everything koha related
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19:25 drojf1 i was hoping that thunderbird would just generate an email from the event in the calendar, but i had to copy it over myself
19:25 drojf1 so much for automation
19:27 * cait is going to fight with eclipse and tomcat now... wish me luck
19:28 drojf1 it's a trap!
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19:30 mtompset Anyone want an easy sign off? :)
19:31 mtompset bug 15717
19:31 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15717 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Installer: Step 3 has <br /> showing
19:37 pianohacker mtompset: this an xss-fix side effect?
19:37 mtompset Template::Stash::AutoEscape turns <br /> into &lt;br /&gt; automagically in the single variable used to dump multiple lines.
19:38 pianohacker so yes, cool
19:38 mtompset By splitting it to an array, and putting the <br /> into the template file, instead of the variable, this works.
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19:41 cait remidner - add your topics to tomorrow's dev meeting agenda :)
19:42 cait pianohacker: are you good with eclipse by chance?
19:44 pianohacker ...
19:44 pianohacker cait: I hacked it into functioning for a class two or three years ago, that's the extent of my knowledge
19:44 cait ah... that sounds vaguely like my situation
19:45 cait Multiple Contexts have a path of "/DIY". < when i try to run the example project
19:46 pianohacker unfortunately, I don't know anything more about that than google does
19:47 cait it's ok :) was worth trying
19:47 cait it's silly i am stuck on this... it already worked, now today it just stopped gr.
19:49 cait google++
19:50 cait I googled before asking... but of course after asking i found the solution :)
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19:57 cait hm....fixed = moving on to the next problem
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20:11 * wizzyrea_home waves
20:14 cait wizzyrea++
20:14 cait still sick?
20:20 drojf1 good night #koha
20:20 wizzyrea_home I have one eye left to heal and then I"ll be well. I'm not "well" (not contagious) until it's not red anymore
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20:25 cait :(
20:25 cait hope you get better soon
20:25 cait brb, rebooting
20:33 nengard @later tell tcohen can you pass my info about the manuals on to bernardo?
20:33 huginn` nengard: The operation succeeded.
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20:34 barton hi cait!
20:35 cait back :)
20:35 cait hi barton :)
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20:41 cait @wunder Konstanz
20:41 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Friedrichshafen, Germany is 9.0°C (9:20 PM CET on February 01, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady).
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22:32 cait khall_away: around... probably not :)
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22:49 mtompset Thanks for noticing the bug, cait. :)
22:50 cait ah, the one about <br>?
22:50 mtompset Yes. :)
22:50 cait i suspect xss too
22:51 cait so the best one to look at it might be Joubu
22:52 mtompset I painfully traced the code... [% foo %] is now getting autoescaped in master.
22:52 mtompset So, the single variable multiline mess that it was won't work.
22:52 cait he fixed some other cases
22:52 cait like in sysprefs
22:52 mtompset Bug report for that?
22:53 cait we also have html in the yaml file
22:53 cait it was all in the initial push
22:53 mtompset Ah.
22:53 cait something i found while testing that went in as a follow up
22:53 cait should be in the last commits
23:02 bag I’m sure we will find more
23:03 bag :D
23:06 * cait hopes for not so many
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23:39 bag @karma pianohacker
23:39 huginn` bag: Karma for "pianohacker" has been increased 43 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 42.
23:39 bag @karma bag
23:39 huginn` bag: Karma for "bag" has been increased 46 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 45.
23:39 bag @karma brendan
23:39 huginn` bag: brendan has neutral karma.
23:39 pianohacker ooh much closer here
23:40 bag pianohacker++
23:40 pianohacker bag++
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23:42 mtompset Oh, anyone want another easy sign off? :) bug 15719
23:42 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15719 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Silence warning in C4/Language.pm during web install
23:43 mtompset And yes, I'm working on fighting spammy warnings. :)
23:44 mtompset pianohacker and bag had their karma decreased once?!
23:44 pianohacker probably us messing around :)
23:45 bag we are human
23:45 mtompset @karma mtompset
23:45 huginn` mtompset: Karma for "mtompset" has been increased 31 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 31.
23:45 mtompset @karma cait
23:45 huginn` mtompset: Karma for "cait" has been increased 312 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 312.
23:45 mtompset 10x better than I, cait. :)

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