IRC log for #koha, 2016-01-04

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07:30 * magnuse wishes #koha a happy new year!
07:30 magnuse confetti!
07:36 magnuse @wunder boo
07:36 magnuse gah! no bots!
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07:50 reiveune hello
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07:54 sophie_m Hello #koha, happy new year
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07:59 alex_a bonjour
08:06 magnuse bonjour france - happy new year!
08:07 sophie_m hi magnuse
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08:13 alex_a Happy new year magnuse !
08:14 cait happy new year everyone :)
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08:19 drojf hi #koha
08:19 cait happy new year drojf
08:19 drojf hi cait. to you too
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08:20 gaetan_B hello
08:20 gaetan_B and happy new year :)
08:20 cait hm jenkins sent me a ton of emails about failing build
08:21 * magnuse too
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08:31 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
08:32 drojf oh, it's bot holiday?
08:32 drojf hei magnuse
08:32 drojf i got those emails too
08:34 drojf cait: did you see ?
08:34 drojf that did not really need to be off-ed
08:35 drojf i really hope they are not going to use koha
08:35 cait hm yeah
08:35 drojf for the record ^^
08:38 drojf i consider the koha code of conduct in effect for the mailing list too. in my understanding that means they should be banned if they show up on koha-de
08:39 cait I think we will see waht to do when it happens
08:39 cait right now noone knows if they are looking into Koha or not
08:41 drojf i hope they stay with german products :P
08:49 Joubu o/
08:49 cait hi Joubu - happy new year :)
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08:53 Joubu cait: Happy new year!
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08:56 LibraryClaire Happy new year #koha
08:57 cait happy new year LibraryClaire:)
08:59 ashimema Good morning #koha
08:59 LibraryClaire morning cait :)
09:00 LibraryClaire hi ashimema :)
09:00 drojf -10° :/ looks like home office wins
09:00 drojf hi ashimema and LibraryClaire
09:01 ashimema @wunder stevenage, uk
09:01 drojf looks like eythian can use his winter boots after all
09:01 ashimema ooh.. where did the bot go
09:01 drojf bot holiday. or y2016 problem :D
09:01 LibraryClaire haha
09:01 ashimema is he visiting then drojf.. or are you amsterdam way?
09:02 drojf ashimema: none, i just assume its not much warmer in amsterdam. he might be still in norway though, i think he went there for new years
09:03 drojf amsterdam +6°. ok then its only cold here
09:04 liw @wunder espoo
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09:04 cait hm 4° here
09:04 drojf1 looks like its really just here. unfair
09:05 cait and it looks like we will get to see some sun today too :)
09:05 drojf1 awww. i miss the sun
09:06 LibraryClaire feels horribly cold here today. Apparently it's 11...
09:06 drojf1 but only like 4 months until spring ;)
09:07 cait we can barely complain about winter this year so far
09:07 drojf1 but why start it now? :/
09:07 LibraryClaire I miss snow.
09:07 drojf1 i propose the rule "if there is no snow on christmas, skip winter altogether"
09:08 liw -14 C (-20 with windchill) in Espoo, it seems
09:08 drojf1 LibraryClaire: no snow here, just really cold. too cold for snow atm
09:08 drojf1 liw: cozy!
09:09 liw also, snow, a little, which is great, because it reflects sunlight and makes it much less depressing
09:09 drojf1 true
09:09 liw came back from a month of sunlight in Torrevieja less than a week ago, the snow has fallen since, and makes life better (even if it's cold and tiresome to walk through)
09:10 drojf1 i'm not up north enough for the cool stuff (snow, northern lights)
09:10 drojf1 well, we get snow usually, but most of the time it turns to brown mud instantly in berlin
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09:44 magnuse -11 + wind = -21 effective temperature here - pretty similar to liw
09:47 Joubu Could someone confirm that the translate script does not work anymore on master?
09:47 Joubu I get "Syck parser (line 4, column 10): syntax error at /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/perl5/5.20/YAML/ line 133, <$fh> line 1."
09:47 drojf for any language?
09:47 Joubu pmvers YAML::Syck 1.27
09:47 Joubu drojf: at least 2
09:48 Joubu fr-FR and es-ES
09:48 Joubu update and install
09:49 cait can't confirm right now - if noone else does i can try later
09:50 Joubu ok my bad, the script is trying to read admin/preferences/patrons.pref.rej
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09:51 * Joubu should have tried with clean code...
09:51 nlegrand hey #koha, happy new year!
09:51 * cait sends cookies
09:51 cait happy new year nlegrand :)
09:51 nlegrand o/ happy new year cait
09:52 drojf Joubu: works for me
09:53 magnuse Joubu: works for me too
09:53 pastebot "magnuse" at pasted "translate update -v nb-NO" (35 lines) at
09:54 Joubu drojf, magnuse: thanks for testing. Sorry for the noise, it comes from my install
09:54 drojf ah ok, did not read that :)
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09:57 magnuse Joubu: no problem!
10:07 sophie_m in github I can see v3.18.13 tag, but I haven't got it in my git repository. Does anyone can reproduce ?
10:08 Joubu fatal: ambiguous argument 'v3.18.13': unknown revision or path not in the working tree.
10:09 Joubu I don't have it neither
10:11 magnuse "git tag" on current master does not show it
10:11 cait hm we have a branch v3.18.13
10:11 cait but no tag
10:14 cait we = bsz git repository
10:17 sophie_m I've sent a mail to Liz
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10:30 mveron Hi #koha
10:30 mveron @wunder Allschwil
10:30 LibraryClaire Hi mveron
10:31 mveron Hi LibraryClaire
10:31 mveron Oh, no weather today...
10:33 mveron We have still a problem introduced by Bug 15344 on master, checkouts to members with staff permission result in a software error. It is fixed by the thrid patch, but this patch seems not to be pushed.
10:33 mveron[…]_bug.cgi?id=15344
10:38 cait mveron: not pushed to master?
10:38 cait maybe email bag - as we are missing the bot
10:38 mveron It seems so...
10:44 mveron bag: Can you have a look at following bug? - There is a third patch that fixes a software error. See[…]_bug.cgi?id=15344
10:52 kivilahtio_ is anybody working on label printer improvements?
10:52 kivilahtio_ we need to be able to make more custom labels more easy
10:52 kivilahtio_ I was thinking of a drag and drop gui librarians can use to build print labels
10:53 kivilahtio_ and define printable elements and print areas etc
10:56 cait sounds like a new module :)
10:56 kivilahtio_ cait: we already have a custom module for defining "difficult" sticker layouts
10:56 kivilahtio_ cait: all we need is a gui for it so i dont have to code the layouts
10:56 kivilahtio_ cait: and incorporate community improvements regarding utf
10:56 kivilahtio_ cait: happy new year!
10:56 cait i think some bugfixes recently, but no bigger projects for the labels
10:56 kivilahtio_ cait: thanks!
10:56 kivilahtio_ and lots if web-testing :)
10:56 cait that i know of - and happy new year :)
11:15 cait lunch time
11:18 LibraryClaire Mahlzeit!
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11:30 drojf1 in acquisition, can i only print an order if i put it into a group?
11:38 cait pdf print? yes
11:46 drojf1 ok. any reason why i can't just email the order to the vendor via koha?
11:47 drojf1 apart from "nobody coded it" :)
11:47 cait nobody coded it :)
11:47 drojf1 heh
11:47 cait i have a poc on a branch somewhere
11:47 cait but it needs more work and unit tests :(
11:48 cait i based it on the code for email claims in acq
11:48 cait ... because that's basically almost the same thing
11:48 cait i can try and resurrect it if you are interested
11:48 drojf1 what does it do? it was translated with 'reklamation' but claim did not sound like that
11:49 cait we can send late orders (claims) in acq
11:49 cait we just can't send orders
11:49 drojf1 thats funny :)
11:49 cait ... which is... weird
11:49 drojf1 yes
11:49 cait yes
11:49 cait hehe
11:49 drojf1 i would certainly help testing if you still got that
11:49 cait I am very tired of explaining that in trainings actually
11:49 cait the reaction is about the same as yours
11:50 cait maybe i can work on it this wednesday - we got a holiday here
11:50 drojf1 southern germany and all their holidays :P
11:50 cait not sorry :)
11:50 drojf1 :D
11:52 drojf1 i need a client that uses acquisition, or i'll never really learn that part. not very appealing to do on my own
11:52 cait acq is ok'ish
11:52 cait but you have to stick to the rules more than in other places
11:52 cait like there is a step-by-step-workflow and koha doesn't really allow shortcuts
11:53 drojf1 it feels overly complicated for small ibraries. like having the extra basket group that you need to put the basket in. if you got one person doing acquisitions that does not feel straight forward
11:54 drojf1 on the other hand, i don't do that stuff and maybe people love it that way ;)
11:55 cait you can side-step the basket group
11:56 cait take a look at the prefs
11:56 cait it will not ask then and just put one order in one basket group
11:56 drojf1 what is supposed to go in the very top of the order pfd? there is a blank square. i assume it came from me not filling in all info, but no idea what it should be
11:56 cait that means you are done and don't see any of it
11:56 drojf1 oh ok. i did not find that, i'll lok again
11:56 cait it's under acq
11:56 drojf1 look
11:56 drojf1 that is were i looked ;)
11:57 cait BasketConfirmations
11:57 cait hm... sorry, not the one i was thining about
11:57 cait i think i just dreamt it?
11:58 drojf1 i think that does something else, or the decription is bad. i will try it anyway
11:58 drojf1 or it is an enhancement on bz? :)
12:00 drojf1 bug 10973
12:00 drojf1 oh, yes, no bot
12:00 drojf1[…]_bug.cgi?id=10973
12:00 cait[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4959
12:02 cait comment 24
12:02 cait i thinki it does what i thought it did
12:06 drojf1 it skips the basket group part, but then without the basket group you cannot print it
12:07 drojf1 so unless you want to manage your orders seperately and on top of that want to have them in koha, that does not help
12:08 cait ?
12:08 cait ah you need a print out
12:08 cait i have a solution for that too :P
12:08 cait will tell you after coffee
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12:45 oleonard Hi #koha
12:46 cait hi oleonard - and a happy new year :)
12:47 oleonard Thanks cait, you too
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12:57 oleonard Is it no longer possible to pass a patron name via GET to the patron search? That is, /cgi-bin/koha/members/ John
12:59 drojf1 oleonard: i get the general patron page, not the specific entry
13:03 oleonard Yeah, I assume this is something which doesn't work anymore with the DataTable result, but it'd be nice to find that there is a workaround
13:04 oleonard I'd like to be able to (still) link to patron search results from a saved report
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13:13 drojf1 we don't have any backup mechanism related to the file upload feature, do we?
13:14 drojf1 so once you restore a database with links to uploaded files on a different server…
13:20 barton morning oleonard!
13:20 cait oleonard: out of interest.. why not link to the patron account directly?
13:23 barton rangi: I checked my .gitconfig on the bywater dev server, my email is correct there. I think that the typo was a one-off -- a patch written on a server where I didn't have my .gitconfig, and I ran git commit --amend manually.
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13:27 oleonard Hi barton
13:28 oleonard cait: It's a version of this duplicate patrons report:[…]Duplicate_Patrons
13:29 oleonard I had the results configured to link to a patron search by name
13:29 cait aah
13:29 oleonard It's not a big deal.
13:29 cait i was just curious really -but this example makes a lot of sense
13:30 cait i think i have made a similar one but list both in the report below each other
13:30 cait Joubu might know if there is a way with the new search
13:33 oleonard mtj++ # because I love Bug 7853
13:33 * cait misses wahanui... so much
13:33 oleonard What happened to wahanui?
13:33 cait he probably just needs a restart
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13:36 Joubu oleonard: the parameter is searchmember
13:37 Joubu It fills the form, but does not display the results
13:39 oleonard Thanks Joubu, that helps
13:40 magnuse Bug 7853 - should correctly redirect back to, if no updates are outstanding
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13:52 nengard happy new year #koha
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13:59 LibraryClaire happy new year nengard
14:00 nengard :)
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14:07 oleonard Can someone please remind me of the syntax for using git bz to attach multiple patches?
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14:09 cait oleonard: git bz attach HEAD~3.. for example
14:09 cait and then i do a git bz edit to obsolete etc.
14:10 magnuse oleonard:[…]re_than_one_patch
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14:16 oleonard Thanks cait and magnuse
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14:23 cait oleonard: for signing off multiples there is a nice trick i use for qa
14:23 cait I am using a little bit modified version of qa2[…]i/Tips_and_tricks
14:24 cait then you can just say: git qa2 5 ... and it adds the passed qa/sign off to the last 5 commits
14:24 cait it's saving a ton of time over the git rebase -i...
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14:43 gmcharlt @quote random
14:43 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #51: "jwagner thinks true joy is not wanting to do a telecon, and finding out the other person has forgotten about it & left for the day :-)" (added by a user that is no longer registered at 07:35 PM, January 20, 2010)
14:44 cait @wunder Konstanz
14:44 huginn cait: The current temperature in Friedrichshafen, Germany is 5.0°C (3:20 PM CET on January 04, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.39 in 995 hPa (Steady).
14:45 cait huginn is back, only one bot short now :)
14:45 huginn cait: downloading the Perl source
14:48 cait happy new year gmcharlt :)
14:49 gmcharlt happy new year!
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15:23 oleonard Is there a difference between "Advance notice" with days = 0 and "Item due" ?
15:23 drojf1 @wunder berlin, germany
15:23 huginn drojf1: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is -8.0°C (4:20 PM CET on January 04, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: -13.0°C. Windchill: -15.0°C. Pressure: 29.44 in 997 hPa (Steady).
15:23 drojf1 brrr
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15:40 Dyrcona @wunder 01845
15:40 huginn Dyrcona: The current temperature in Harkaway Rd., North Andover, Massachusetts is -4.8°C (10:39 AM EST on January 04, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: -15.0°C. Windchill: -8.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising).
15:42 oleonard @wunder 45701
15:42 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Heatherstone, Athens, Ohio is -0.2°C (10:42 AM EST on January 04, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: -12.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.29 in 1026 hPa (Steady).
15:43 bag morning
15:43 bag @wunder 97215
15:43 huginn bag: The current temperature in Kittyland Love Center, E Tabor, Portland, Oregon is -1.3°C (7:42 AM PST on January 04, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Falling). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 10 am PST this morning...
15:43 bag it’s all completely ice over 2 inches of snow
15:43 janPasi__ Any idea why "holds to pull" doesn't return anything?
15:44 janPasi__ same as "holds queue" it just says "No items found."
15:55 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15344: Remove one occurrence in circ/ <[…]5fc8a4dc859527cb9>
15:56 oleonard janPasi__: The holds to pull report works for me in master
15:56 oleonard janPasi__: The holds queue report depends on having the build_holds_queue script run
15:57 janPasi__ build_holds_queue gets run by cron
15:57 janPasi__ and I ran it manually too just to make sure
15:57 janPasi__ holds to pull used to work just fine a while ago (i.e. a few weeks ago)
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16:02 reiveune bye
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16:02 Joubu oleonard: the only difference should be the template used (DUE vs PREDUE)
16:03 oleonard Thanks Joubu
16:04 cait oleonard: hm i think it used not to be possible to set 0 - but might be mistaken
16:04 Joubu yes I had in mind it was not a good idea to set it to 0, but cannot remember why
16:05 oleonard cait: It displays 0 as the default. I wonder if leaving it at 0 means it is never sent?
16:05 cait hm no idea - would need testing
16:06 Joubu looking at the code 0 should work the same as Item due
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16:22 cait oleonard: did i mention how nice it is to have yu back here? :)
16:22 oleonard :)
16:22 oleonard Not getting much Koha work done, but at least I'm here!
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17:03 cait bye all :)
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17:40 tubaclarinet Hi gang! i hope that everyone's holiday went well
17:40 nengard you too!
17:41 tubaclarinet Thx
17:42 tubaclarinet I'm trying to squish a bug using snadbox 7, but all of my searches return no results- is this common to these sandboxes?
17:45 tubaclarinet i'm using database 2 and bug 15375
17:45 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15375 trivial, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Translatability: Fix issues on OPAC page 'Placing a hold'
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17:50 cabillman hi - is anyone else having problems with the page after upgrading to 3.22?
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17:51 cabillman i get an internal server error with the following in the logs ("Can't locate object method \"single\" via package \"5\" (perhaps "...) called at /var/koha/circ/ line 57
17:53 mveron-away cabillman: I can reproduce: Can't call method "single" without a package or object reference at /usr/share/kohaclone/circ/ line 57
17:54 mveron ...on current master
17:54 cabillman mveron: thanks. I didn't install via packages so I wanted to make sure I didn't do something wrong
17:57 mveron cabillman: Did you try to checkout to a user with staff permissions? With normal users it works.
17:59 mveron cabillman: If you can confirm  the issue could be related to Bug 15344
17:59 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15344 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , GetMemberDetails called unecessary
17:59 cabillman mveron: the user does not have staff permission
18:01 cabillman mveron: I can renew from the patron check out tab
18:01 cabillman just not
18:01 cabillman disabling plack doesn't seem to have any impact either
18:02 mveron cabillman: Ok, I can reproduce on
18:05 mveron cabillman: Sorry, I have to go... Can you file a bug?
18:05 cabillman mveron: sure thing. Thanks for your help
18:18 gaetan_B bye
18:47 eythian[…]ewcomer-friendly/
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19:24 rangi morning
19:25 npls Hi. I have a question about Koha and EDIFACT ordering
19:25 npls Does anyone have time to help?
19:25 rangi we won't know until you ask your question :)
19:26 npls :) I'm trying to order from a staged marc file
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19:26 npls and when I start a basket and add orders
19:26 rangi what version of Koha?
19:26 npls the quantity and fund codes aren't being recognized
19:27 npls
19:27 npls The titles and everything are right on.
19:28 npls and the quantity and fund codes are in the marc record
19:28 npls but Koha wants me to manually enter info rather than reading it from the marc
19:28 npls I
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19:29 rangi yeah, i'm not sure that functionality exists in 3.20.4
19:30 rangi[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7736
19:30 huginn Bug 7736: new feature, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Failed QA , Edifact QUOTE and ORDER functionality
19:30 npls Ah okay :) I thought it would have been nice since it can infer the titles and pricing from the marc file.
19:30 rangi it's on its way afaict
19:31 npls woo-hoo!
19:31 npls Thanks rangi
19:31 rangi no problem, you might want to keep an eye on that bug, you probably know more about EDIFACT than I do :)
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19:33 npls Will bookmark the bug url. thanks again rangi.
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19:35 cait hi #koha :)
19:35 rangi hi cait
19:35 cait hi rangi
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19:47 rangi status
19:47 rangi status?
19:47 wahanui status is not set, I tried receive and an additional check in
19:48 rangi we should use more marc
19:48 wahanui http://02varvara.files.wordpre[…]no-bear.jpg?w=800
19:48 rangi ok, looks like it is back
19:49 oleonard Hi rangi, happy new year.
19:49 rangi hi oleonard happy new year to you too
19:54 cait thx rangi++ :)
20:00 oleonard See you all later, #koha
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20:14 magnuse @wunder boo
20:14 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -9.0°C (8:50 PM CET on January 04, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: -17.0°C. Windchill: -20.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
20:25 tubaclarinet good bye :-)
20:29 wizzyrea hi
20:35 rangi @later tell mtj is there a way to disable pull requests for the koha repo on github?
20:35 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
20:36 cait1 good idea, thx rangi
20:38 cait1 hm i can go into the settings - doesn't look like it
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20:48 wizzyrea there's a bot that looks like it can do it
20:48 wizzyrea basically you can't do it officially
20:52 eythian hi
20:52 rangi heya eythian
20:52 wahanui eythian is an expert bot trainer
20:52 eythian wahanui: you're back!
20:52 wahanui eythian: huh?
20:52 eythian wahanui: your back
20:52 wahanui eythian: i'm not following you...
20:53 rangi @wunder nzwn
20:53 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (9:30 AM NZDT on January 05, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
20:53 eythian @wunder ams
20:53 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 6.7°C (9:48 PM CET on January 04, 2016). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.18 in 988 hPa (Steady).
20:53 eythian you win...this time!
20:55 rangi :)
20:55 rangi it was about that yesterday tho
20:59 wizzyrea it was freezing.
20:59 cait1 @wunder Konstanz
20:59 huginn cait1: The current temperature in Friedrichshafen, Germany is 4.0°C (9:50 PM CET on January 04, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.44 in 997 hPa (Steady).
20:59 cait1 @wunder Berlin
20:59 huginn cait1: Error: No such location could be found.
20:59 cait1 @wunder Berlin, Germany
21:00 huginn cait1: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is -8.0°C (9:50 PM CET on January 04, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: -13.0°C. Windchill: -15.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Steady).
21:01 eythian Seriously. It was warmer than -8 in Norway
21:02 eythian @wunder gjovik
21:02 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Fruset, Gjøvik, Norway is -9.8°C (10:01 PM CET on January 04, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: -15.0°C. Windchill: -10.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
21:02 eythian I guess it got colder after I left
21:05 magnuse @wunder boo
21:05 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -8.0°C (9:50 PM CET on January 04, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: -15.0°C. Windchill: -18.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Rising).
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23:03 rangi @wunder nzwn
23:03 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0°C (11:30 AM NZDT on January 05, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
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