IRC log for #koha, 2015-12-28

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07:37 * magnuse waves
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08:07 magnuse hiya alex_a
08:07 magnuse @wunder boo
08:07 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0°C (8:50 AM CET on December 28, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Steady).
08:07 magnuse @wunder marseille
08:07 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 12.0°C (9:00 AM CET on December 28, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.48 in 1032 hPa (Steady).
08:07 alex_a hello magnuse
08:07 magnuse @wunder thessaloniki
08:07 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Thessaloniki, Greece is 5.0°C (9:50 AM EET on December 28, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.45 in 1031 hPa (Steady).
08:07 magnuse oops
08:08 magnuse @wunder wellington
08:08 huginn magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
08:08 magnuse @wunder wellington, nz
08:08 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0°C (9:00 PM NZDT on December 28, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Rising).
08:10 magnuse i thought maybe i ws the only one working today...
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08:10 magnuse or trying to work...
08:10 magnuse bonjour sophie_m
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08:16 magnuse kia ora cait and matts
08:16 * magnuse feels less alone
08:16 matts hi !
08:20 * cait waves
08:20 cait morning matts and magnuse :)
08:20 cait working monday-wednesday this week - so at least i will be here
08:20 cait to keep you company :)
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08:33 magnuse cait: yay! i'll take wednesday off
08:42 jajm morning #koha
08:44 magnuse hiya jajm
09:04 cait morning jajm :)
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09:35 mveron Hi #koha
09:36 cait hi mveron :)
09:36 mveron Hi cait :-)
09:42 mveron I need feedback on Bug 15429 (unwantedly changed values that are passed by reference)
09:42 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15429 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , sub _parseletter should not change referenced values
09:43 cait marcelr++
09:47 Joubu hi #koha
09:47 cait morning Joubu!
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10:38 mveron We need feedback from native speakers for Bug 15288 - see comment 24
10:38 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15288 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Failed QA , Error pages: Code duplication removal and better translatability
10:39 mveron Hi Joubu :-)
10:40 mveron Joubu: I need feedbak from a Perl crack for Bug 15429 - I think I tracked it down but maybe you have a better idea.
10:40 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15429 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , sub _parseletter should not change referenced values
10:46 Joubu mveron: yes you are right, it's very bad to change the values of the param
10:47 Joubu and your patch looks good, this is the way to go (for a quick fix)
10:48 cait Joubu++ mveron++
11:22 mveron Joubu, thanks for Bug 14015 !
11:22 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14015 normal, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Checkout: Fix software error if barcode '0' is given
11:46 mveron Lunch!
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12:45 tcohen morning
12:46 cait morning tcohen :)
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12:48 tcohen hi cait
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13:44 mveron t/db_dependent/Letters.t fails for me on current master with test 62 - can anybody confirm?
13:48 cait @later tell gmcharlt could you take another look at the changed dependencies on bug 8483 maybe?
13:48 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
13:48 cait ... and tht was the wrong bug number
13:48 cait of course
13:48 cait @later tell gmcharlt ... and of course i got the bug number wrong (always) - I meant 8352 :)
13:48 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
13:49 pastebot "magnuse" at pasted "prove t/db_dependent/Letters.t" (7 lines) at
13:50 magnuse mveron: ^^
13:50 magnuse passes for me, but i do get a warning
13:50 mveron magnuse++
13:51 pastebot "magnuse" at pasted "prove -v t/db_dependent/Letters.t" (77 lines) at
13:51 magnuse verbose ^^
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13:52 magnuse kia ora NateC
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14:00 cait @later tell rangi can you please add version 3.22 on bugzilla? :)
14:00 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
14:04 tcohen fredericd: bug 15431
14:04 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15431 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , svc/checkouts dies due to undefined variable (13024 merge problem)
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14:07 tcohen @seen fredericd
14:07 huginn tcohen: fredericd was last seen in #koha 3 weeks, 2 days, 7 hours, 13 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: <fredericd> rangi: Do you have an opinion about adding a releasenotes field to Bugzilla?
14:07 tcohen khall
14:07 tcohen Joubu?
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14:20 magnuse should the sql files in installer/data/mysql/<langcode> have copyright/license statements?
14:22 mveron magnuse: Found - It seems that db_dependent/Letters.t needs syspref LetterLog set to logging.
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14:25 mario morning
14:29 magnuse mveron: that's what i have, yes
14:29 magnuse cheers mario
14:30 mario cheers magnuse
14:36 magnuse oh well, time to go, more work on bug 9060 tomorrow. have fun #koha!
14:36 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9060 minor, P5 - low, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , Data update for nb-NO webinstaller
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15:04 Joubu tcohen: !
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15:20 tcohen Joubu: 8483, do u think performance penalty could be related to missing indexes?
15:20 Joubu which ones?
15:23 tcohen i didn't look, but as those tables are not widely used...
15:23 tcohen the code doesn't seem to complicate things too much
15:34 cait subdivDelimiter but delimeter.... sometimes we have awful spelling.
15:34 cait 2 params of the same xslt function
15:34 bag morning
15:35 cait hey bag
15:43 tcohen hi bag!
15:57 cait @wunder Konstanz
15:57 huginn cait: The current temperature in Friedrichshafen, Germany is -1.0°C (4:50 PM CET on December 28, 2015). Conditions: Light Freezing Fog. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Steady).
15:57 cait light freezing fog... that's a good description actually
15:57 cait even tho friedrichshafen is on the other side of the lake... but... hm.
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17:38 mveron @wunder Allschwil
17:38 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 6.0°C (6:30 PM CET on December 28, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady).
18:07 eythian @wunder gjøvik
18:07 huginn eythian: Error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found
18:07 eythian @wunder gjovik
18:07 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Stenslia, Gjovik, Norway is -5.8°C (7:06 PM CET on December 28, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: -9.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 30.66 in 1038 hPa (Steady).
18:07 burdsjm Is there a way to tag a url in our catalog not to append the opac url to the front of the link?
18:08 burdsjm https://catalog.dubuque.lib.ia[…]blionumber=162076
18:08 eythian That's where I'll be tomorrow. Good thing I bought a scarf.
18:08 burdsjm the Gale Virtual Reference Library breaks with the added info :(
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18:14 cait hi #koha
18:15 eythian Hi cait
18:16 cait hi eythian
18:52 rangi morning
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19:18 cait morning rangi
19:21 Dyrcona kia ora, rangi.
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20:23 rangi @marc 710
20:23 huginn rangi: An added entry in which the entry element is a corporate name. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,k,l,m,n,o,p,r,s,t,u,x,3,4,5,6,8]
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20:32 rangi @marc 490
20:32 huginn rangi: A series statement for which no series added entry is traced or for which the added entry is traced in one of the 800-830 fields in a form different from the form contained in field 490. (Repeatable) [a,l,v,x,6,8]
20:32 rangi @marc 440
20:32 huginn rangi: A series statement consisting of a series title alone. (Repeatable) [a,n,p,v,x,6,8]
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20:38 eythian[…]for-solar-panels/ <-- rangi
20:39 rangi oooh
20:40 eythian there is something of a requirement to pick up. So you should start figuring out flights once a year for the next 4 years.
20:40 rangi heh
20:42 cait ... but how to get it back?
20:42 eythian checked luggage
20:42 rangi cait could go pick it up
20:42 rangi and bring it to each kohacon for me
20:42 eythian that's true
20:42 rangi hehe
20:42 cait ... i am very trustworthy with beer... because... ew
20:44 eythian they have entertainingly thematic beer names with their brewery name. Mannenleifde (googletranslate it :), and "mama".
20:44 eythian also quite good.
20:44 rangi heh
21:15 eythian @wunder Amsterdam
21:15 huginn eythian: Error: No such location could be found.
21:15 eythian @wunder Amsterdam, nl
21:15 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Aalsmeerderbrug, Aalsmeerderbrug, Netherlands is 9.2°C (10:15 PM CET on December 28, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Falling).
21:16 eythian @wunder westerpark, amsterdam, nl
21:16 huginn eythian: Error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found
21:17 rangi that seems fairly warn for this time of year?
21:17 rangi warm even
21:17 eythian Very, yeah
21:17 eythian Warmest Christmas on record.
21:26 cait @wunder Konstanz
21:26 huginn cait: The current temperature in Saint Gallen-Altenrhein, Germany is 0.0°C (10:20 PM CET on December 28, 2015). Conditions: Fog. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady).
21:27 cait feels like the first really kind of cold day today
21:27 eythian cait: shoulda visited Amsterdam
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21:35 rangi hmm is there are 5XX notes field that is hidden from the opac by default?
21:43 cait not to my knowledge
21:43 cait i think easiest would be to look at the routin
21:43 rangi ill go with 590
21:43 cait that gets the info
21:43 rangi yeah
21:44 cait i think it will output everything 5xx maybe
21:44 cait into the title information tab
21:44 cait[…]e2aa7b1b962#l1768
21:45 cait hm right, you can blacklist some via pref
21:45 rangi yeah i remember we added that, just wondering if we did any by default, thanks for hte pref name, now i can find it :)
21:47 cait you got me curious
21:48 rangi heh
21:49 rangi nope
21:49 rangi it's empty by default
21:49 rangi ill just go with 590, and then switch that on then
22:00 eythian[…]msterdam-dungeon/ <-- next in my series
22:00 rangi heh what a cool idea
22:01 rangi you're gonna have to make a new category for those :)
22:01 eythian yeah
22:01 eythian I kinda want to remove the category things
22:01 rangi just use tags?
22:01 eythian but wordpress doesn't seem to like that
22:01 rangi yeah
22:01 eythian that's what I'd prefer, yeah
22:05 rangi i haven't been to either of those
22:05 rangi i went to a bunch, all the free ones, cos I had run out of money :)
22:07 eythian heh, that'll happen.
22:07 eythian There's a fair few free ones around.
22:07 rangi yeah
22:09 eythian Next one on the list is the Amsterdam city museum. There I'll hopefully be able to get a museum jaarkaart, which should make the rest of the bigger ones cheaper.
22:09 rangi ahh true
22:09 rangi will you do galleries next? :)
22:09 rangi i suspect that will never end, galleries seem to pop up and disappear all the time
22:10 eythian I'm not even half way through the 'A' set. Probably by the time... yeah, that but with museums :)
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22:13 rangi :)
22:15 cait :)
22:16 cait eythian: you way up to R is long... you might not want to wait that long
22:16 cait one of the R museums has a super nice library
22:16 eythian well, I can go independently and then visit another time to write it up :)
22:19 rangi @marc 506
22:19 huginn rangi: Information on the restrictions that govern access to or the limited distribution of the described materials. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,d,e,f,u,2,3,5,6,8]
22:19 rangi @marc 540
22:19 huginn rangi: Terms governing the use of the described materials (e.g., copyrights, film rights, trade rights) after access has been provided. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,d,u,3,5,6,8]
22:20 rangi hmm nope
22:20 eythian[…]nce-study-2015-12 <-- I'll leave you with this, and go to bed
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22:20 rangi @marc 542
22:20 huginn rangi: unknown tag 542
22:20 eythian off to norway tomorrow, after all
22:20 eythian speaking of norway, hi magnuse. bye magnuse :)
22:20 rangi ahh sleep well, and enjoy norway
22:21 rangi hmm we are missing 542 in our default framework also
22:21 rangi[…]oncise/bd542.html
22:21 rangi but thats the field i want
22:26 * magnuse waves drowsily
22:27 magnuse welcome to norway eythian
22:28 magnuse hm, does it make sense to present "You are missing the <upload_path> entry in your koha-conf.xml file." as a warning to people who do not plan on using uploads?
22:28 rangi yes
22:29 rangi oh, actually no
22:29 rangi is there a syspref for uploads?
22:29 cait eythian: vacation?
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22:31 magnuse rangi: not sure
22:32 rangi if there is some way koha can know they are not planning to use it, then yeah, not showing the warning is ok
22:32 magnuse cait: nah, i think he is sent out into the world by catalyst to wipe out the koha competition, and i'm first on the list...
22:32 cait aah and the new job is just a fake identity... that makes sense
22:33 magnuse cait: i'm afraid so
22:33 cait rangi: hm i think you might have to set up a a plugin - maybe we can just reword it?
22:34 cait Warning: if youwant to use... do ... first
22:34 magnuse cait: if i fall silent in the next couple days you'll know what happened
22:34 cait ... ohoh... i might be next
22:35 magnuse yup
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22:37 cait ... now i can't sleep...
22:37 cait ever again. probably. well... more time for qa :)
22:37 magnuse woohoo!
22:37 magnuse cait++
22:37 magnuse @karma
22:37 huginn magnuse: Highest karma: "cait" (303), "Joubu" (276), and "tcohen" (227).  Lowest karma: "ie" (-26), "failed" (-23), and "<-" (-22).  You (magnuse) are ranked 12 out of 521.
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22:43 cbrannon Anyone know if Koha has stopped skipping holidays/closed dates?  We've noticed that items were due on a holiday.
22:43 cait hm haven't heard of that
22:43 rangi what version cbrannon ?
22:43 cait have you checked usedaysmode?
22:44 cbrannon 3.18.09
22:44 cait we have no logging for the calendar... so you can't find out if the holidays were entered early enough :( another thing would be a manually entered due date
22:45 rangi yeah haven't heard of that happening
22:45 rangi i'd check the pref like cait says
22:46 cbrannon we have the pref set to "Calculate the due date using the calendar to push the due date to the next open day."
22:47 rangi that sounds right
22:47 cbrannon What is the difference between that setting and the "the calendar to skip all days the library is closed"?
22:47 rangi skipping will push it the number of holidays that fall between now and due date (inclusive)
22:48 rangi so it might be 0,1,2,3 etc
22:48 rangi so if the loan period is 3 weeks, and the due date is an open day, but there were 2 holidays in between
22:48 rangi it will still be pushed 2 days
22:49 cbrannon So, skipping uses the number of holidays, but could still fall on a holiday if close enough.
22:49 rangi there's a potential yes
22:49 cbrannon Hmmmm....stumped then.
22:49 rangi you have access to the db eh?
22:50 cait cbrannon: i usually explain it as 'calculates in opening days' instead of calendar days
22:51 rangi you could look at one that fell on a holiday, see the issuedate in the issues or old_issues table for that one
22:51 rangi it might give you a hint what happened
22:51 cbrannon I'm noticing the library that complained has the date, but no title.  I'm wondering if there is a hiccup in the table from an upgrade?
22:52 cbrannon The other libraries show the title on that date.
22:52 rangi could be, eyeballing the old_issues (if it has been returned) will maybe shed some light
22:52 cait hm, i think we didn't do anything with the holidays in a long time
22:52 rangi if they were all issued at that same branch
22:52 cait so nto sure about the update
22:52 rangi (branchcode)
22:53 cait i know hter eis a problem if you use "" or so in the title
22:53 rangi then you might be onto something
22:53 cbrannon Well, I guess we should start by fixing those things, and then see if the problem continues.  Thanks.
23:00 * Francesca waves
23:01 rangi hi Francesca
23:01 cbrannon Ugh!  I wish there was an easier way to clean out old holidays!
23:03 Francesca hey rangi theres a merge request still waiting for the dashboard
23:05 rangi done
23:09 Francesca font on the big header is readable now
23:09 Francesca yay!
23:10 Francesca I'm pretty happy with that unless theres other things you'd like me to
23:10 Francesca do
23:10 rangi nope all good :)
23:11 Francesca sweet :)
23:11 * rangi goes to grab lunch
23:29 cait Francesca++
23:30 Francesca thanks cait :)
23:38 cait also aleisha++ :) sign-offs!
23:38 cait and good night :)
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