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eythian |
ex-parrot: welkommen |
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ex-parrot |
hey eythian |
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wahanui |
go back to bed, eythian |
| 00:41 |
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ex-parrot |
I just came to harass cdickinson |
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eythian |
seems reasonable |
| 00:42 |
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ex-parrot |
(koha is cool too) |
| 00:42 |
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dcook |
^ |
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Francesca |
I don't think cdickinson is around |
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ex-parrot |
I managed to get ahold of him :) |
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cdickinson |
I just got back, Francesca |
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Francesca |
sup |
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Francesca_ |
ugh mac just crashed |
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eythian |
what's the table that stores what permissions borrowers have? |
| 01:35 |
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eythian |
oh |
| 01:35 |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 01:35 |
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eythian |
maybe user_permissions |
| 01:35 |
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eythian |
or maybe not |
| 01:36 |
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eythian |
it's hard to tell |
| 01:36 |
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dcook |
Well, flags in the borrower table, and then I think a mix of.. |
| 01:36 |
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eythian |
ah |
| 01:36 |
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dcook |
`permissions` i think is subpermissions? |
| 01:36 |
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eythian |
I bet it's the flags one I want |
| 01:36 |
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dcook |
I would think so |
| 01:36 |
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dcook |
And then you compare that against... |
| 01:36 |
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dcook |
`userflags` |
| 01:37 |
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dcook |
Right, `userflags` has the permissions... `permissions` has the subpermissions... |
| 01:37 |
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dcook |
In the best naming scheme ever |
| 01:37 |
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eythian |
ikr |
| 01:37 |
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dcook |
And I think `user_permissions` might store somethihng about subpermissions? |
| 01:38 |
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eythian |
all I need to see is the users that have any permissions, so it's easy enough. |
| 01:38 |
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eythian |
huh, it's weird seeing the name of someone I used to work with pop up in there. |
| 01:38 |
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eythian |
oh, she used to work there too |
| 01:38 |
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eythian |
I'd forgotten about that |
| 01:39 |
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eythian |
("there" being the client whose database I'm poking in) |
| 01:39 |
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eythian |
http://beatonna.tumblr.com/pos[…]s-of-li%C3%A9bana <-- unrelated |
| 01:39 |
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dcook |
And people think there isn't any interesting data in library databases |
| 01:39 |
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dcook |
The potential for data misuse seems fairly high to me... |
| 01:39 |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 01:39 |
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dcook |
I like that image |
| 01:40 |
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eythian |
that's why we don't let people get to the database who aren't supposed to :) |
| 01:42 |
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eythian |
oddly, I'm totally not finding the user I'm expecting to |
| 01:43 |
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eythian |
maybe it's vanished |
| 01:43 |
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dcook |
deletedborrowers? |
| 01:43 |
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eythian |
nah, I expected it on staging, it's probably been zapped by a database refresh |
| 02:18 |
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| 03:08 |
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dcook |
eythian: I was just thinking... in theory Zebra could handle other formats than just MARC, yeah? |
| 03:08 |
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dcook |
The problem would be with Koha |
| 03:08 |
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eythian |
well |
| 03:08 |
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dcook |
That it would try to get MARC out and that wouldn't work for non-MARC |
| 03:08 |
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eythian |
Probably |
| 03:08 |
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eythian |
but, I don't know if you can mix them up |
| 03:09 |
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eythian |
however, it's way outside my scope of knowledge of zebra. |
| 03:09 |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 03:09 |
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dcook |
Fair enough |
| 03:09 |
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dcook |
Yeah, it's outside mine as well |
| 03:10 |
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dcook |
Thinking about all the different challenges we face with supporting different metadata formats... |
| 03:11 |
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dcook |
Zebra is a free, fast, friendly information management system. It can index records in XML/SGML, MARC, |
| 03:11 |
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dcook |
e-mail archives and many other formats, and quickly find them using a combination of boolean searching |
| 03:11 |
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dcook |
and relevance ranking. |
| 03:11 |
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wahanui |
relevance ranking is broken by QueryAutoTruncate |
| 03:11 |
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dcook |
Shh |
| 03:11 |
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* dcook |
wonders if he was the one who wrote that.. |
| 03:12 |
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dcook |
But even if you stored multiple things in Zebra... you'd need some sort of way to get them out.. |
| 03:12 |
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eythian |
yeah |
| 03:12 |
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eythian |
Koha really expects marc formats |
| 03:12 |
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dcook |
Yeah |
| 03:12 |
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dcook |
I wonder how Zebra returns thing... |
| 03:13 |
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dcook |
Does it store the original and its own internal record? |
| 03:13 |
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dcook |
It certainly stores the latter.. |
| 03:13 |
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dcook |
If only windows would let me open things.. |
| 03:13 |
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eythian |
heh windows |
| 03:13 |
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eythian |
I have no idea how zebra stores things |
| 03:13 |
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dcook |
Kill windows with fire.. |
| 03:13 |
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| 03:14 |
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eythian |
not ex-parrot, windows |
| 03:14 |
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eythian |
zebra is mostly a mysterious black box to me |
| 03:14 |
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dcook |
Fair enough |
| 03:17 |
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dcook |
Come on, Zebra, tell me your secrets... |
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| 03:19 |
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dcook |
This install looks funny.. |
| 03:28 |
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dcook |
Ahhhh |
| 03:28 |
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dcook |
"A parser for binary MARC records based on the ISO2709 library standard is provided, it transforms these |
| 03:28 |
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dcook |
to the internal MARCXML DOM representation" |
| 03:28 |
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dcook |
Actually, save the ahhh moment for later.. |
| 03:32 |
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dcook |
I think I understand everything except how it outputs usmarc.. |
| 03:32 |
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dcook |
iso2709 rather.. |
| 03:38 |
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dcook |
It doesn't store iso2709 internally... not even in GRS1 |
| 03:38 |
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dcook |
GRS1 used it's own internal format.. |
| 03:40 |
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dcook |
But we only care about DOM now.. |
| 04:01 |
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dcook |
So with DOM... it'll parse iso2709 into MARCXML... and it just stores MARCXML as MARCXML in the Zebra storage... |
| 04:01 |
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dcook |
Which is why the identity.xsl will return MARCXML for "elements marc" and "elements marcxml" |
| 04:01 |
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dcook |
Neato burrito |
| 04:03 |
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dcook |
In theory you could index whatever into Zebra and get out MARCXML... so long as you could specify a XSLT to make it so |
| 04:04 |
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dcook |
Although the smarter thing to do would probably be to define some sort of intermediary format... |
| 04:04 |
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dcook |
Which would require re-doing all the XSLTs for course |
| 04:05 |
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dcook |
Or would it.. |
| 04:06 |
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dcook |
You could actually expand the existing detail and result XSLTs... |
| 04:06 |
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dcook |
Or refactor them to make the better... |
| 04:06 |
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dcook |
We could have templates for discrete parts of the detail page |
| 04:07 |
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dcook |
Title template, author, the rest, etc. |
| 04:07 |
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dcook |
Well... that could be tricky.. |
| 04:07 |
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dcook |
Might get confusing for developers |
| 04:08 |
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eythian |
that's sooorrrrttttaaa what I'm doing with ES |
| 04:08 |
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eythian |
though, it's not really used |
| 04:08 |
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eythian |
it could be though |
| 04:08 |
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dcook |
How do you mean? |
| 04:09 |
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eythian |
all the fields are converted (mappings) to things like "title" and so on |
| 04:09 |
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eythian |
it's more aimed at searching though |
| 04:09 |
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eythian |
I don't think putting display elements into the index is a good idea |
| 04:09 |
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eythian |
I think putting the record in and converting it to display after fetching is better |
| 04:09 |
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dcook |
Agreed |
| 04:10 |
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eythian |
after all, you might want different displays in different situations |
| 04:10 |
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dcook |
The XSLT for the detail page could check if it's MARCXML or whatever else |
| 04:10 |
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dcook |
Yep |
| 04:10 |
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eythian |
I think you would need an XSLT for each format you support |
| 04:10 |
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eythian |
it's the only sane way |
| 04:10 |
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dcook |
It would be the easier way :p |
| 04:10 |
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eythian |
insofar as XSLT is sane |
| 04:10 |
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dcook |
True that |
| 04:10 |
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dcook |
You could do multiple ones.. |
| 04:11 |
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dcook |
And have one top level one |
| 04:11 |
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dcook |
Well...what do I mean.. |
| 04:11 |
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dcook |
Really one XSLT |
| 04:11 |
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eythian |
I suppose you could |
| 04:11 |
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dcook |
You'd import the other ones in just to get access to their templates |
| 04:11 |
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dcook |
The idea would be to make the search results and detail pages modular |
| 04:12 |
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dcook |
So the XSLT needs to create certain blocks of HTML |
| 04:12 |
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dcook |
Title, author, details, etc |
| 04:12 |
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dcook |
And the way that each metadata format does that is up to its particular template |
| 04:12 |
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dcook |
Which the top-level template will call depending on the metadata format |
| 04:12 |
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dcook |
Easy peasy |
| 04:12 |
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eythian |
yeah true |
| 04:12 |
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eythian |
good thinking |
| 04:12 |
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dcook |
Thanks |
| 04:13 |
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eythian |
you could even have the XSLT extract parts and put them into XML, then that's rendered using a display XSLT |
| 04:13 |
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eythian |
so you'll have a conversion XSLT for each format, but only one display one for each display situation. |
| 04:13 |
|
eythian |
e.g. results vs. detail vs. staff client |
| 04:14 |
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eythian |
Alien vs Predator vs Brown vs The Board of Education |
| 04:14 |
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dcook |
I'm not sure I entirely follow but I think I agree |
| 04:14 |
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dcook |
Ah, yes, I getcha |
| 04:14 |
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dcook |
That's another way of doing it |
| 04:14 |
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dcook |
I think it would be more work in the short-term, but much smarter in the long term |
| 04:15 |
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eythian |
little modular lego bricks :) |
| 04:15 |
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dcook |
And you can specify that extraction XSLT in the Zebra config |
| 04:15 |
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dcook |
Have an intermediate format that you can use for the display XSLT |
| 04:15 |
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eythian |
can you do it per record? |
| 04:15 |
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dcook |
per record type |
| 04:15 |
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dcook |
So yes |
| 04:15 |
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eythian |
ah OK |
| 04:15 |
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dcook |
So I think search could be achievable |
| 04:16 |
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dcook |
And in the short-term... I'm thinking that search is the most important thing |
| 04:16 |
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dcook |
Because that leads you to external resources or to items |
| 04:16 |
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dcook |
Items... |
| 04:16 |
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wahanui |
i guess items is library-speak for books. |
| 04:16 |
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dcook |
I suppose items is the next hurdle |
| 04:17 |
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dcook |
(And facets for search) |
| 04:17 |
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dcook |
Although the Zebra facets would get around that problem.. |
| 04:17 |
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dcook |
And you could even do facets the way we already do them and hard code them for different formats... which is ugly but doable |
| 04:17 |
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dcook |
Just need to detect the namespace in the incoming record which is easy enough as well |
| 04:17 |
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dcook |
Ah but not if we do the intermediary format |
| 04:18 |
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dcook |
But then if we do the intermediary format, we could use a standard way of getting our own facets out |
| 04:18 |
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dcook |
Bam! |
| 04:18 |
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dcook |
Logic all over the place.. |
| 04:19 |
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dcook |
I suppose any multi-format effort would have to look at search... and item creation... possibly all cataloguing... |
| 04:19 |
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dcook |
Well maybe not cataloguing. That could maybe be done later. As we could get the records in... |
| 04:19 |
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* dcook |
is just babbling now |
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| 04:24 |
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dcook |
I wonder how it would work with RDF... |
| 04:24 |
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dcook |
I suppose you can display RDF however you want |
| 04:24 |
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dcook |
In terms of linked data, you'd just need to publish the original record at the prescribed URI |
| 04:24 |
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dcook |
(and probably via a SPARQL endpoint) |
| 04:25 |
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dcook |
And that's something that magnuse is already working on |
| 04:25 |
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dcook |
was/is* |
| 04:25 |
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dcook |
I think.. |
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dcook |
Although I guess with RDF it's much more difficult.. |
| 04:39 |
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dcook |
As sometimes you need to follow the link.. |
| 04:53 |
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Amit_Gupta |
hi dcook |
| 04:53 |
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dcook |
hey Amit |
| 04:57 |
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Francesca |
hey dcook |
| 04:57 |
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dcook |
hey Francesca |
| 04:57 |
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wahanui |
is waging a war against the video driver that continues to fail on her vm |
| 04:57 |
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Francesca |
lol |
| 04:58 |
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Francesca |
not anymore |
| 04:58 |
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Francesca |
how goes aussie |
| 04:58 |
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dcook |
Mmm it goes |
| 04:58 |
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dcook |
Reading more about RDF :p |
| 04:59 |
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dcook |
You? |
| 04:59 |
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wahanui |
You are welcome |
| 05:06 |
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Francesca |
apart from being welcome, I am kinda bored |
| 05:06 |
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Francesca |
need a cat |
| 05:06 |
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Francesca |
cats? |
| 05:06 |
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wahanui |
The only good cat is a stir-fried cat. |
| 05:07 |
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dcook |
Bored? |
| 05:07 |
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dcook |
Cats will certainly keep you from being bored |
| 05:08 |
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Francesca |
my cats are outside right now |
| 05:08 |
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Francesca |
they dont want to cuddle me or entertain me |
| 05:09 |
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dcook |
You could figure out how to integrate RDF into Koha :p |
| 05:20 |
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Francesca |
what is RDF |
| 05:20 |
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wahanui |
RDF is, like, just spinning round in circles on the water |
| 05:20 |
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Francesca |
apart from that |
| 05:20 |
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dcook |
resource description framework |
| 05:21 |
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Francesca |
and what does it do |
| 05:21 |
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dcook |
Example: http://dbpedia.org/page/Tim_Berners-Lee |
| 05:21 |
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dcook |
Good question :p |
| 05:21 |
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dcook |
In theory, it lets you link machine readable resources together |
| 05:21 |
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Francesca |
ah |
| 05:21 |
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dcook |
So look at that web page |
| 05:22 |
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Francesca |
sorry don't know if I can help with that - interesting but I don't quite understand |
| 05:22 |
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dcook |
I don't know if I understand quite yet either :p |
| 05:22 |
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Francesca |
lol |
| 05:22 |
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dcook |
The idea is that you have lots of datasets out there, and instead of copying the data... you put in a pointer |
| 05:22 |
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dcook |
So for "birthPlace", you put a link to London rather than saying London |
| 05:23 |
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Francesca |
huh |
| 05:23 |
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dcook |
Well, let's use you for an example |
| 05:23 |
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dcook |
Instead of using the plain text of your parents names in your record |
| 05:23 |
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dcook |
You'd put in the URIs to their records |
| 05:23 |
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Francesca |
ok |
| 05:24 |
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Francesca |
so kinda just adding all the info in one place via links |
| 05:24 |
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dcook |
So if we're trying to view a record on you, the server should parse your record, and realize that your parents are referred to at those URLs |
| 05:24 |
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dcook |
Yep |
| 05:24 |
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dcook |
So the server would fetch the records for your parents and display their info |
| 05:24 |
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dcook |
How it decides what info to show... I don't know |
| 05:24 |
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dcook |
I think that's up to the server... which is where it all falls apart imho |
| 05:24 |
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Francesca |
lol |
| 05:26 |
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Francesca |
server side I might not be as helpful |
| 05:27 |
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dcook |
Well, you could do it via AJAX :p |
| 05:27 |
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dcook |
I just figure your machine has to be programmed with some knowledge of the schema of the remote resource |
| 05:28 |
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dcook |
I think there might actually be some facility for that with <rdfs:label/> in RDF/XML... |
| 05:28 |
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dcook |
Which makes sense to me |
| 05:28 |
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Francesca |
heh I've never worked in AJAX |
| 05:28 |
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dcook |
If there is a RDF field to refer to the thing in plain text at its most base level |
| 05:28 |
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dcook |
Well jeez, Francesca! |
| 05:29 |
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Francesca |
lol |
| 05:29 |
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Francesca |
my work mainly consists of looking at something and going hey can I re-style it |
| 05:30 |
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dcook |
That's also good :) |
| 05:31 |
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Francesca |
got any webpages that need styling |
| 05:31 |
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Francesca |
I could do that quite quickly |
| 05:31 |
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dcook |
Oh probably but not off the top of my head |
| 05:32 |
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Francesca |
lol if you think of any you know where to find me |
| 05:33 |
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dcook |
Sounds good ;) |
| 05:35 |
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Francesca |
good luck with the RDF |
| 05:36 |
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dcook |
Thanks |
| 05:36 |
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dcook |
At the moment, I don't know how it could ever be useful for searching |
| 05:37 |
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dcook |
Browsing for sure |
| 05:37 |
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dcook |
If you have the record retrieved, it could show you all sorts of interesting links |
| 05:37 |
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dcook |
But how do you retrieve that record? |
| 05:37 |
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Francesca |
yeah |
| 05:37 |
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Francesca |
an interesting problem for sure |
| 05:37 |
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dcook |
For sure |
| 05:38 |
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dcook |
I suppose you could query your RDF triple store and say who who has a reference to this URL? |
| 05:38 |
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dcook |
But that's not very user friendly |
| 05:39 |
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Francesca |
yeah |
| 05:51 |
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dcook |
@later tell magnuse Yo, we should chat RDF! |
| 05:51 |
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huginn |
dcook: The operation succeeded. |
| 05:53 |
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Francesca |
dcook: if its any comfort I think my job searching is going about as well as the RDF |
| 05:53 |
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dcook |
:( |
| 05:53 |
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dcook |
That doesn't sound good |
| 05:53 |
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dcook |
You're still in uni, yeah? |
| 05:56 |
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Francesca |
yeah |
| 05:56 |
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Francesca |
I was hoping to get an internship this year but things didnt work out |
| 05:57 |
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dcook |
:( |
| 05:59 |
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Francesca |
so now I have to find a summer job because work would be good |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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magnuse |
dcook: yeah, let's talk rdf at some point |
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magnuse |
dcook: have you seen http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]i/Linked_Data_RFC - it's a braindump that is getting to be a few years old, but i think it still sums up my thinking on rdf and koha |
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marcelr |
hi #koha |
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cait |
morning all |
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cait |
bbl |
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magnuse |
hiya marcelr and cait |
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magnuse |
...and matts and fridolin |
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matts |
hi ! |
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fridolin |
bonjour magnuse and all of u |
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magnuse |
@wuner boo |
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huginn |
magnuse: downloading the Perl source |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0°C (8:20 AM CET on November 09, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.15 in 987 hPa (Falling). |
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reiveune |
hello |
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magnuse |
bonjour reiveune |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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jajm |
hi |
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hey jajm |
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* cait |
waves |
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* Francesca |
waves back at cait |
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cait |
hi Francesca :) |
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Francesca |
sup :) |
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cait |
did you have a nice weekend? |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
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wahanui |
hello, gaetan_B |
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Francesca |
cait: yes, good weekend thanks |
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heya gaetan_B |
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wahanui |
i think gaetan_B is working at Biblibre and did the nice new start page together with asaurat or a fan of icons |
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hi Amit_Gupta |
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fridolin |
I have a problem with debian jessie + indexdata repo, libnet-z3950-zoom-perl can not be installed |
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fridolin |
because of a dependancy on perlapi-5.18.2, but the version 5.20.0 is installed |
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fridolin |
maybe a problem with the packaging by indexdata |
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Joubu |
hi #koha |
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cait |
hi Joubu! |
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mveron |
Hi #koha |
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Joubu |
cait: Are you able to recreate the failure on the report tests? |
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Joubu |
I have just recreated a fresh DB and the tests still does not fail for me |
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cait |
only the one time |
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cait |
not sure what needs to be done to get it back to the state before... |
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cait |
it would point to something changing in the database then? |
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cait |
i can try and load an older dump - but only tonihgt |
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cait |
i was testing with my 'play' db - so ther are probably some reports |
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Joubu |
Tomas told us that Jenkins loads a new DB now, so no reports should be there |
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cait |
hm eah |
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cait |
some variable not set the first time? |
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cait |
I am really not sure why this happens |
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Joubu |
@later tell tcohen please send me a dump of a DB to recreate the failure on Repots_Guided.t |
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Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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Amit_Gupta |
hi cait |
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cait |
first time patch writer.... someone around for testing? bug 15136 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15136 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, contact, Needs Signoff , Display item's homebranch in patron's fines list |
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drojf |
hi #koha |
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tcohen |
morning #koha |
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tcohen |
Joubu: it is in /home/jenkins/koha_3_20_00.sql.gz |
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Joubu |
ok thank |
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tcohen |
Joubu: the problem I think is on side effects from previously run tets |
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Joubu |
tcohen: the tests pass with this DB... |
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tcohen |
Joubu: :-( |
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tcohen |
maybe try to run the previously run tests (on jenkins list) |
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Joubu |
tcohen: how do you generate the 'fresh' DB on jenkins? |
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tcohen |
Joubu: only the file I mentioned earlier |
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tcohen |
(3.20.0 + updatedatabase.pl) |
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Joubu |
tcohen: I got some errors on updatedatabse: DBD::mysql::db do failed: Table 'audio_alerts' already exists [for Statement " |
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Joubu |
and some otheres |
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Joubu |
so it's not a 3.20 db |
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tcohen |
http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]etedBuild/console |
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Joubu |
hum... |
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Joubu |
ok I know, I haven't erase the previous DB, so the tables existed |
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tcohen |
that sounds promising :-D |
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goes prepare coffee while the kohadevbox fires |
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* cait |
waves |
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Joubu |
ok drop + create + update + prove => ok |
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tcohen |
Joubu: f*ck |
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tcohen |
on jenkins, the only one failing is GetTopIssues.t, maybe is date-related? |
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tcohen |
jajm: were you involved on GetTopIssues.t? |
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Joubu |
no |
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Joubu |
ha sorry :) |
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jajm |
tcohen, yes i think... |
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tcohen |
it's been failing for the last couple weeks |
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tcohen |
if you have the time, i'd appreciate that you took a look |
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jajm |
tcohen, where can I find the test output ? |
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tcohen |
http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]er_D7/572/console |
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jajm |
thx |
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Joubu |
jajm: at one point, the AI for biblio and biblioitems are not in sync anymore |
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jajm |
17:33:39 [10:54:22] t/db_dependent/Circulation/GetTopIssues.t ................. ok 9952 ms |
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jajm |
tcohen, ^ |
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Joubu |
http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]etedBuild/console |
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Joubu |
18:28:12 t/db_dependent/Circulation/GetTopIssues.t (Wstat: 65280 Tests: 0 Failed: 0) |
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tcohen |
ah, wrong one |
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tcohen |
heh |
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cait |
tcohen: could you foward the latest release notes to my workmail maybe? |
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tcohen |
I think it is TooMany.t's fault |
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tcohen |
I'm regenerating them anyway |
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tcohen |
jajm: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]etedBuild/console |
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tcohen |
it's a problem with the tests |
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tcohen |
and I had the test failing without biblionumber-bibioitemnumber divergence |
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tcohen |
the problem is the biblioitemnumber retrieved is NULL |
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tcohen |
don't ask me how that happens :-D |
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tcohen |
jajm: to reproduce what i do is |
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tcohen |
vagrant up jessie ; vagrant ssh jessie ; cat /vagrant/scp koha_3_20_00.sql.gz | sudo koha-mysql kohadev |
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tcohen |
sudo koha-shell kohadev; cd kohaclone ; perl installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl |
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tcohen |
and then if you run prove t/db_dependent/Circulation/GetTopIssues.t it passes |
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tcohen |
(run it many times, it works) |
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tcohen |
then run prove t/db_dependent/Circulation/TooMany.t prove t/db_dependent/Circulation/GetTopIssues.t => FAIL |
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waves again |
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tcohen |
jajm: ok? |
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tcohen |
jajm: https://theke.io/static/koha_3_20_00.sql.gz |
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tcohen |
@wunder cordoba, argentina |
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huginn |
tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 29.0°C (10:00 AM ART on November 09, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0°C (1:50 PM CET on November 09, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.09 in 985 hPa (Steady). |
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magnuse |
tcohen wins |
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tcohen |
heh |
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jajm |
tcohen, i reproduce the bug, investigating now... :) |
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tcohen |
jajm: AWESOME |
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jajm |
tcohen, is there a bz where i can send a patch or should I create a new one ? |
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tcohen |
there's a bug i think |
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tcohen |
Joubu: ? |
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tcohen |
jajm: fill a new one |
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jajm |
ok |
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Joubu |
I didn't open it |
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jajm |
tcohen, http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15158 |
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huginn |
Bug 15158: minor, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , t/db_dependent/Circulation/GetTopIssues.t is failing in Jenkins |
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tcohen |
jajm: i owe you a pastis bottle this time |
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mario |
morning |
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jajm |
tcohen, thanks, but i hate pastis... :) |
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tcohen |
ok, so i'll keep the bottle :-P |
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cait |
heh |
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pastebot |
"tcohen" at 172.16.248.212 pasted "Joubu: the test" (25 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/157 |
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Joubu |
tcohen: I suspect that it is mysql specific |
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tcohen |
yeah, but that's what the DBIC people told on |
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tcohen |
s/on/me/ |
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tcohen |
Joubu: the other option is to just create two consecutive biblios and check they have consecutive biblionumbers |
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tcohen |
what do u think #koha |
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Joubu |
this is certainly better |
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pastebot |
"tcohen" at 172.16.248.212 pasted "Joubu: it even reads better :-P" (21 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/158 |
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tcohen |
bug 15159 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15159 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , TestBuilder behaviour on AI values should be tested |
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tcohen |
jajm++ |
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cait |
jajm: around? i had a line with pull downs showing up when i had applised the statistic wizard cataloguing patch |
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cait |
no label in front |
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cait |
it's still there with the patch applied |
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cait |
the second row |
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cait |
i have no idea what it does, the code refers to it as cotedigits.... ? |
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gaetan_B |
in the cirulation rules the "Default checkout limit by patron category" says "For this library, you can edit rules for given itemtypes, regardless of the patron's category." |
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gaetan_B |
but http://schema.koha-community.o[…]r_circ_rules.html doesn't store the branch |
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is it stored somewhere else or is the interface wrong? |
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gaetan_B |
ok this is indeed stored elsewhere |
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xarragon |
Hmm, I was changing C4::Members::Attributes.pm and tried running ./t/db_dependent/Members_Attributes.t which failed. It fails for current master as well as 3.20.3. Am I doing anythign wrong? |
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xarragon |
1/60 Can't call method "default_privacy" on an undefined value at /var/koha/Koha/C4/Members.pm line 750 |
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xarragon |
Guess I need to check the test invocation, b/c the file is only 350 lines long |
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gaetan_B |
cait: "cote" is the french word for "callnumber" maybe a bad translation from jajm ? |
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xarragon |
Ah, I see.. probably need to have PWd be t subdir |
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jajm |
cait, I don't have this row... :/ |
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tcohen |
xarragon: it is not failing in master for me |
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jajm |
cait, ah yes I see... :) |
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tcohen |
xarragon: are you sure you updated your db, etc? |
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xarragon |
tcohen: I think I just invoked it wrong. Just checked the wiki. |
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xarragon |
tcohen: I jsut called prove ./t/db_dependant/Members_Attributes.t |
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cait |
jajm: did you find it? was making tea :) |
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jajm |
cait, i don't know exactly what it's supposed to do, but it's in master too, maybe you should file a new bug for this ? |
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cait |
yeah that's what i meant in my comment - old problem.. but gah. :) |
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cait |
not going to force you to fix it ;) |
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jajm |
cait, it's really nice of you :) |
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jajm |
it's there since 2005 ... |
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cait |
one of the old and weird things we have where probably noone knows what it's supposed to do... ) |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15158: Fix t/db_dependent/Circulation/GetTopIssues.t <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]84f0d3502ae3153bd> / Bug 14867: userid not generated when defined in BorrowerUnwantedField <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ad09c17fb7b7b8913> / Bug 14388: Funds should be sorted by budget_code <http://git.koha-community.org/gi |
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tcohen |
@later tell marcelr can we fix that "WARNING: You do not have upload_path..." thing? setting a default path and taking care of the installer creating it? |
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tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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pianohacker |
hello |
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cait |
hi pianohacker |
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gaetan_B |
bye |
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reiveune |
bye |
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wnickc |
@later tell wizzyrea I redid bug 14739 for 3.18, give it a once over and let me know if you spot any problems |
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huginn |
wnickc: The operation succeeded. |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14402: (QA followup) Add notes to usage text about --fees <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]90409de1d30a0ddbd> / Bug 14402: Make purge_zero_balance_fees() delete fees with NULL balance. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c181bba8d55c43bc4> / Bug 14402: Add option --fees to /misc/cronjobs/cleanup_database.pl <http:/ |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8064: DBRev 3.21.00.054 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]08c8f9e4ac80be5f3> / Bug 8064: Fix unit tests for createMergeHash <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]264537cb1bec3ef54> / Bug 8064: Little fix for 003, 005, 008 in MARC21 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a53560b411dd44e14 |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15036: Do not overwrite complete status in basket ops <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]600015c9be3320bf0> |
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tcohen |
vagatn destroy jessie |
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tcohen |
oops |
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tcohen |
bye #koha |
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bdonnahue |
hey guys is there a way to have koha import mark 21 records in batch? |
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pianohacker |
bdonnahue: yes, there's the stage marc records for import under Tools, there's the bulkmarcimport.pl script |
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bdonnahue |
pianohacker: thanks |
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bdonnahue |
is there any way to have koha "look up" a marc record from a reputable source like lib of congress and then import it if it is correct? |
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eythian |
bdonnahue: yes, that's Z39.50 under the cataloguing screen |
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eythian |
dcook: your email feels a bit stream-of-consciousness :) |
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dcook |
eythian: Well... you know me |
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dcook |
Definitely stream-of-consciousness |
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dcook |
I really did intend it just to be about library size at first |
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dcook |
:p |
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eythian |
heh |
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eythian |
it sure veers off |
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dcook |
I figure no one is really going to read the whole thing anyway |
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dcook |
Yeah, the size thing had to do with database size and I started thinking about how we probably could handle a lot more records than we do |
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dcook |
I mean... I work on other databases with millions upon millions of rows and it's not a big deal |
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dcook |
But it's more complex than that of course |
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dcook |
eythian: I wrote a thing for library school students about how it would be wise to concentrate more on learning than marks |
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dcook |
Closed it with </unsolicited rant> |
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dcook |
Which a friend pointed out could be my middle name :p |
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eythian |
haha |
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dcook |
Whoops. Wrote eythian in the 40$c |
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dcook |
Don't think you're the transcribing agency.. |
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pianohacker |
ha! |
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eythian |
I am now! |
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dcook |
hehe |
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