IRC log for #koha, 2015-08-24

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00:05 francesca cupcakes
00:05 wahanui cupcakes are yummy
00:07 eythian more importantly, burgers
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01:22 eythian
01:35 wizzyrea I bet my dad has stats like that
01:35 wizzyrea though, he's been through several computers, so hard to get aggregate stats.
01:36 wizzyrea but he's played a lot, a LOT, of freecell.
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01:47 francesca yay new lenses for my glasses! Makes looking at all those lines of code much nicer
02:09 eythian 3.20.03 packages uploading
02:10 rangi sweet
02:10 francesca I should have my mac back by tomorrow
02:10 francesca which means I can continue working on the bugzilla skin
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02:23 jamesb hey does anyone else find 100$d doesn't display in OPAC and intranet normal view?
02:24 eythian @marc 100
02:24 huginn eythian: A personal name used as a main entry in a bibliographic record. [a,b,c,d,e,f,g,j,k,l,n,p,q,t,u,4,6,8]
02:25 wizzyrea it wouldn't surprise me one bit that it doesn't
02:27 BobB so that will need an xslt tweak?
02:27 eythian yeah
02:28 BobB I wonder why it was left out of the standard design? space maybe
02:28 jamesb do you know why it was left out?
02:28 BobB snap jamesb
02:28 BobB :)
02:30 eythian <xsl:when test="@tag=100 or @tag=700"><xsl:call-template name="nameABCQ"/></xsl:when>
02:30 eythian <xsl:when test="@tag=110 or @tag=710"><xsl:call-template name="nameABCDN"/></xsl:when>
02:30 eythian <xsl:when test="@tag=111 or @tag=711"><xsl:call-template name="nameACDEQ"/></xsl:when>
02:30 eythian if I'm reading that right, it's _only_ 100 and 700 that it doesn't show for
02:30 eythian that doesn't seem quite right to me.
02:31 wizzyrea a stab in the dark - it's not a field most people care about displaying?
02:31 eythian could be
02:31 wizzyrea though, by the looks I'd rather see that than say, Publisher.
02:32 dcook It's a date field so it might look weird to a lot of people
02:32 BobB we've a couple of customers that think its important :)
02:32 jamesb it's a field we've found people care about a bit
02:32 dcook BobB same
02:32 wizzyrea oh I didn't say they were right
02:32 wizzyrea ;)
02:32 wizzyrea be rangi
02:32 wahanui There's a bug for that
02:32 wizzyrea no.
02:32 wizzyrea be rangi
02:32 wahanui There's a bug for that
02:32 wizzyrea sigh
02:32 wizzyrea I was hoping for "send a patch"
02:32 dcook Oh... I haven't added my latest XSLT magic yet...
02:33 dcook Not that it's for the display XSLTs...
02:33 * dcook goes off to lunch before he starts caring about other stuff
02:33 irma it is also important as it gives a period in which their literary contribution/s was/were made
02:33 wahanui okay, irma.
02:34 wizzyrea I didn't say it wasn't important, just that whoever set up the xslt clearly didn't think it was important
02:34 rangi 123?
02:34 wahanui "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder"
02:35 rangi theres no rule for libraries
02:35 rangi ever
02:35 rangi there's only multiple conflicting and contradictory rules
02:35 * francesca is cursing windows 8 to the enth degree
02:35 BobB never a truer word
02:35 irma it's called "organic" rangi
02:35 BobB I think we'll propose a patch to add it
02:36 rangi yeah, i think it will go through fine
02:36 rangi in the meantime you could use the custom xslt facility to have it showing now
02:36 irma thanks all :-)
02:36 wizzyrea that is definitely the fastest way to go about that.
02:36 wizzyrea doing a custom xslt
02:37 francesca wizzyrea you look stressed
02:37 francesca did something break?
02:37 cdickinson does anyone have times where they just hate git
02:37 wizzyrea just email :)
02:37 wizzyrea everyone does, cdickinson
02:37 francesca cdickinson: I hate git on windows
02:37 francesca not quite sure about git on my vm
02:38 cdickinson this particular issue is a git all the time thing
02:38 francesca it has its moments
02:38 cdickinson give me an option to clone into a folder that has existing files in it, please
02:38 jamesb thanks guys
02:39 francesca cdickinson: you can't do that?
02:39 wizzyrea[…]n-existing-folder
02:39 francesca ahh stackoverflow
02:39 francesca my favourite website
02:39 cdickinson yes, that's what I've had to resort to do
02:40 cdickinson clone into a temporary folder, then copy contents
02:40 cdickinson thanks Puppet for making that easier said than done
02:40 francesca puppet?
02:40 wahanui it has been said that puppet is sure cool
02:41 francesca puppet looks confusing
02:41 cdickinson it doesn't just look confusing, it gets complicated quickly
02:41 cdickinson especially when you try to do things it wasn't intended to do
02:42 cdickinson before the latest version, there was no way to do loops or anything like that
02:42 cdickinson no easy way at least
02:42 francesca that sounds confusing to me
02:43 wizzyrea actually that solution is a little silly, seems like you could git init, then add your remote, git fetch, then checkout your branch
02:44 wizzyrea but I haven't tried it.
02:44 wizzyrea (not your solution, the one from stackoverflow)
02:45 cdickinson yeah, not doing that :P
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02:49 cdickinson what I love is what git does when it finds itself in that situation
02:49 cdickinson force it to clone, and it obliterates existing files
02:49 francesca so bascilly it freaks out
02:49 francesca (I know thats not how you spell it)
02:50 cdickinson goodbye important files needed for my Puppet Master to run
02:50 * francesca doesn't know wether to laugh or feel sorry for cdickinson
02:50 cdickinson nothing was actually lost, so laugh
02:51 cdickinson this is a daily happening in my life
02:51 * wizzyrea sighs in relief
02:51 eythian 3.18.10 uploading
02:51 wizzyrea \o/ YAY
02:51 wizzyrea eythian++
02:51 * francesca is losing paitence with her computer
02:51 * cdickinson sets the fireworks
02:51 wizzyrea confetti
02:51 wahanui confetti is probably[…]1qh8hleo1_400.gif
02:51 cdickinson fireworks
02:51 eythian yeah, I don't think you could complain that it deleted files if that's what you told it to do by using --force
02:52 cdickinson no, I shouldn't
02:52 cdickinson just wasn't aware that's what it does
02:52 francesca but you do
02:52 cdickinson yep :P
02:52 francesca love the confetti
02:52 wizzyrea fireworks is <reply>[…]-tumblrlhz0-o.gif
02:52 cdickinson good thing about the infrastructure being in code is that I can restore it from nothing >:D
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03:02 BobB its bucketing rain and windy in Sydney
03:02 BobB I wish I was in Wellington where its always sunny and mild
03:02 BobB (that is my experience)  :)
03:02 eythian it's windy and mild today
03:03 francesca wellington?
03:03 wahanui wellington is probably lucky, we have a lot of indian restaurants
03:03 francesca mild?
03:03 francesca and sunny?
03:03 francesca I don't believe it
03:03 francesca and I live here
03:04 wizzyrea it's always windy in kilbirnie :P
03:04 BobB Linux Conf 2009 ish - a week of lovely weather
03:04 BobB and KohaCon 2010 - same!
03:04 francesca it's always windy in brooklyn as well
03:04 wizzyrea hm, I remember kohacon being a couple of fine days, and a couple of horrid wet rainy ones
03:05 francesca BobB - maybe wellington just puts on its nice weather for you?
03:05 wizzyrea well, those were probably mild by wellington standards
03:05 francesca lol
03:05 cdickinson I feel like people don't understand Wellington weather until they get here
03:05 francesca lol nope
03:05 wizzyrea my definition of mild weather has definitely changed.
03:05 cdickinson god, it gets way colder here than the temperature reading says it does
03:05 francesca oh?
03:05 francesca acutally scratch that
03:06 francesca I agree
03:06 wizzyrea cdickinson: only when you're in the shade.
03:06 francesca @wunder wlg
03:06 huginn francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (2:30 PM NZST on August 24, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Falling).
03:06 wizzyrea if you're in the sun, all bets are off.
03:06 francesca and if there is no sun?
03:06 cdickinson there is frost and dew and chills
03:06 wizzyrea in the Hutt, yeah
03:06 wizzyrea not where I live ^.^
03:07 cdickinson funny, that's where I live :P
03:07 wizzyrea FUNNY
03:07 francesca lol
03:07 BobB me too :)
03:08 cdickinson @wunder lower hutt
03:08 BobB @wunder, Sydney, Australia
03:08 huginn cdickinson: The current temperature in Waterloo, Lower Hutt, New Zealand is 13.0°C (3:00 PM NZST on August 24, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
03:08 huginn BobB: I suck
03:08 cdickinson ninja'd
03:08 BobB @wunder Sydney, New South Wales
03:08 huginn BobB: The current temperature in Rosebery, Rosebery, New South Wales is 15.5°C (1:05 PM AEST on August 24, 2015). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Rising).
03:08 francesca whaaaaay
03:08 francesca what
03:08 francesca did I just witness
03:08 francesca huginn has spunk after al
03:08 huginn francesca: I've exhausted my database of quotes
03:09 francesca maybe wahanui's been teaching him
03:09 wizzyrea @quote random
03:09 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #38: "<owen> Holy Bugzilla activity explosion, Batman!" (added by ricardo at 02:00 PM, October 07, 2009)
03:11 cdickinson that is somehow fitting in this situation
03:11 francesca lol
03:33 eythian this browse stuff is going to get a lot of people complaining because they have bad records
03:33 eythian e.g
03:33 eythian Smith, Malcolm
03:33 eythian Smith, Malcolm.
03:33 eythian I also can't sanitise them because then they'll fail to search correctly.
03:34 wizzyrea yes. I was noticing
03:34 wizzyrea bad records are bad.
03:34 * eythian puts that in the "not my problem" basket
03:34 dcook Btw, wizzyrea, I attached an alternate patch on bug 14691, if you didn't notice from the bugzilla spam I was generating
03:34 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14691 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Can't delete patron with ' character in cardnumber
03:35 wizzyrea :) I did notice
03:35 wizzyrea one question
03:35 wahanui one question is whether anybody cares to make a committment to revise the schema to match
03:35 dcook Mhm?
03:35 wizzyrea is it worth adding a plugin when the other bug will fix it without it
03:35 wizzyrea and it would need to be removed again (I think...)
03:35 dcook I thought about that a bit.
03:36 dcook It might need to be removed down the road, but it would probably be easier to grep and remove than the replace I would think
03:36 wizzyrea I don't have a particular feeling either way
03:36 dcook Plus it catches all sorts of other characters besides just the single quote
03:36 dcook Me either :)
03:36 dcook So long as it's fixed, it's all good to me
03:37 dcook Now we just need another person to test and make a choice I guess?
03:37 wizzyrea man, bugs like that never go anywhere we should decide lol.
03:37 wizzyrea my way is simpler, but your way is more complete
03:37 dcook Yep :/
03:37 wizzyrea idk what's better
03:37 dcook Me either
03:38 dcook Maybe we should put it to the dev list?
03:38 dcook I'm sure this will come up in other places
03:38 wizzyrea i'm afraid.
03:38 dcook I think I noticed another place you'd found it as well
03:39 wizzyrea lol
03:39 dcook Afraid?
03:39 wizzyrea yeah in the serial note
03:39 wizzyrea that we'll get a 3rd, 4th, 5th solution
03:39 wizzyrea and it'll never get fixed :)
03:39 dcook hehe
03:39 dcook Fair enough
03:40 dcook A simpler way of doing mine would probably be to add the function in C4::Template under the FILTERS configuration
03:40 dcook Use "uri_escape" or whatever in the template without loading the plugin
03:40 dcook Not that loading it is particularly heavy I think
03:40 dcook 2.26 is buggy at the moment it seems...
03:41 dcook Which seems weird... as the developer has known about the problem for a while
03:41 wizzyrea @later tell cait we have two solutions for bug 14691, given the work being done on 13618, do you have a preference as to solution there?
03:41 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
03:41 dcook There we go
03:41 dcook That's thinking with your head :D
03:41 wizzyrea ask the boss ;)
03:41 dcook hehe
03:41 wizzyrea oh, should pose same to tcohen I guess
03:42 wizzyrea @later tell tcohen we have two solutions for bug 14691, given the work being done on 13618, do you have a preference as to solution there?
03:42 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
03:42 rangi the list is not a good place for those questions i think
03:42 rangi the people who care, are on irc
03:42 dcook rangi: Are they? :p
03:42 dcook wizzyrea and I have been talking about this for a while now I think
03:42 rangi and the people who just want to give an opinion but never contribute
03:42 rangi weigh in on the list
03:42 dcook Mmm true enough..
03:43 wizzyrea either solution will be blown away by 13618
03:43 wizzyrea I hope
03:43 wizzyrea so it's kinda just "for now"
03:43 rangi yeah
03:43 dcook Totes
03:44 rangi 13618 is really needed, im glad there are a few people looking at it now
03:44 wizzyrea *nod* I wish I had a lot more time to spend on it
03:44 wizzyrea it's important
03:48 wizzyrea (I did confirm, after some bug fixing, that 13618 does solve this [these] particular problems)
03:49 francesca yo anyone know what the koha font is?
03:49 francesca if there is one
03:49 eythian in what context?
03:49 francesca uhh like on webpages
03:49 francesca but across everything
03:49 wizzyrea Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif
03:49 wizzyrea for the website
03:49 francesca right
03:50 cdickinson the logo?
03:50 wahanui i heard the logo was included in the tm I believe
03:50 francesca have to pick one
03:50 eythian font-family: "Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;
03:50 wizzyrea naw, you can say "font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"
03:50 * wizzyrea shakes her fist at eythian
03:51 rangi his won't work anyway :)
03:51 eythian I just copy pasted from what koha uses
03:51 wizzyrea :) and mine from the website
03:51 rangi im guessing your firefox is doing translation for you
03:51 francesca lol ok
03:51 rangi on the Neue
03:51 eythian hmm
03:51 wizzyrea naw, helvetica neue is a thing
03:52 eythian that'd be weird
03:52 francesca did I just..
03:52 rangi ahh
03:52 eythian because it'd be niew
03:52 francesca actually cause a debate
03:52 francesca over fonts?
03:52 francesca wow
03:52 wizzyrea hehe no
03:52 wizzyrea well kinda.
03:52 wizzyrea ok yeah
03:52 rangi thats not even close to a debate
03:52 wizzyrea there wasn't beer, it can't be a debate
03:52 rangi you must be new to the internet
03:52 wizzyrea A+
03:52 eythian *nieuw rather.
03:52 * eythian can't spell
03:53 * francesca dies laughing
03:53 cdickinson I think that would be me
03:53 cdickinson says the guy who just coughed himself to death
03:53 ghost_francesca lol
03:53 ghost_francesca that wasn't laughing
03:54 * ghost_francesca decides to go with fonnt-family
03:58 * dcook had the best debate in a while over beer the other day
03:58 * dcook thinks that wizzyrea is correct about beer being integral
03:58 wizzyrea it's harder to get hurt feelings :P
03:59 dcook Although it's also easier to say hurtful things sometimes :p
03:59 dcook Well, not for me. I'm Canadian. We don't hurt feelings :p
03:59 dcook You might forget to say please when you order the beer though
04:00 dcook *shameface*
04:00 dcook Ok, actually going to have lunch this time and not work...
04:00 wizzyrea easier to say it, but less hard to take seriously - it evens out
04:00 wizzyrea go go go
04:00 * eythian points dcook to Jean Chrétien
04:00 * francesca spots dcook and waves
04:07 francesca hey if I wanted to get the logo (just the cool little image part not the word koha) how would I do it?
04:07 wizzyrea there might be a wiki page
04:07 wizzyrea with it
04:07 wizzyrea or something you could use to get it
04:07 wizzyrea logo?
04:07 wahanui well, logo is included in the tm I believe
04:07 wizzyrea hm no. sec
04:08 wizzyrea[…]s_and_Explanation
04:08 wizzyrea logo is also[…]s_and_Explanation
04:08 wahanui okay, wizzyrea.
04:08 francesca cool I'll have a look at that
04:09 wizzyrea there's a vector version, you could probably pretty easily split out just the symbol part
04:10 wizzyrea or not easily, depending on your experience with svg files. but, it'd be a thing worth learning
04:13 cdickinson it'll be a good day when computing power catches up with vector graphic images like SVG
04:13 cdickinson aliasing will be a thing of the past
04:13 francesca yeah I've done this once before
04:13 francesca at the academy
04:13 francesca for the dashboard
04:13 francesca but I cannot for the life of me remeber how I did it
04:14 francesca ah well
04:14 francesca you learn a new thing every day
04:14 wizzyrea true - you'll probably want inkscape to work on that
04:14 wizzyrea looking at it might tickle your memory, as that's probably what they taught at academy
04:15 francesca yup
04:15 francesca might have to wait a bit in that case
04:15 francesca theo won't let me install anything on his laptop
04:26 wizzyrea ah well you'll have your laptop back soon enough
04:29 francesca tomorrow hopefully
04:29 francesca hey wizzyrea what are tuesdays normally like?
04:32 wizzyrea I am desperate to make a snarky reply here, but I'm not feeling very creative :)
04:32 wizzyrea Very much like Mondays.
04:32 wizzyrea but Tuesday
04:32 francesca lol
04:35 francesca just trying to work out if I can get into town for a bit
04:35 francesca don't think its happening
04:35 francesca so I'll just chill on irc
04:35 wizzyrea :)
04:38 mtj hey francesca ->
04:38 wizzyrea mtj++
04:39 francesca ahh yay!
04:39 wizzyrea you should put that on the wiki :)
04:39 wizzyrea logo?
04:39 wahanui logo is[…]s_and_Explanation
04:39 francesca and almost the right colour
04:39 mtj heh, yeah... its... green :)
04:39 francesca I'll just download and photoshop white
04:39 francesca yeah we have a green header
04:39 francesca so won't show up
04:39 francesca mtj huge ++
04:40 mtj open it in inkscape, and 'bucketfill' it white
04:40 francesca (mtj++)
04:40 mtj ..then 'export to png'
04:40 francesca did I metion I'm currently on windows
04:40 francesca on a laptop
04:40 francesca loaned to me by my brother
04:40 francesca so not allowed to install inkscape
04:41 francesca but I'll do it somehow
04:41 francesca mtj you are amazing
04:43 mtj hm, 1 tic
04:44 mtj hey francesca ->
04:44 francesca um thanks I think
04:44 francesca problem with white is that it can't be seen
04:44 francesca still mtj++
04:44 eythian put it on a green background
04:45 francesca that is on an ordinary browser
04:45 francesca yup am doing that
04:45 mtj has a cyan background :)
04:45 francesca just gotta find it and download it first
04:45 mtj 'transparant' color is set to cyan
04:46 mtj transparent even
04:46 francesca yay thankyou
04:46 cdickinson yeah, thanks (I have a vested interest in this thing)
04:46 francesca (its his webpage)
04:46 francesca I'm just building it for him
04:47 cdickinson "just", she's really helping me out by building it out. I'm a bit of a HTML-phobe
04:50 francesca in other words he doesn't know how
04:50 francesca yet
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04:57 mtj[…]ages/Koha-egg.svg
04:57 mtj ..i added it to the logo page
05:04 francesca mtj++
05:04 francesca bye #koha
05:18 * magnuse waves
05:43 magnuse shouldn't we be able to see bug 14566 now?
05:43 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14566 is not accessible.
05:43 magnuse it's fixed in 3.20 and 3.18
05:46 eythian magnuse: it's not had its status update changed to "pushed", so I guess it's an oversight. Probably be sorted tomorrow.
05:47 magnuse eythian: kewl!
05:47 magnuse no rush, just curious :-)
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06:30 reiveune hello
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06:31 marcelr hi #koha
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06:57 Joubu hello #koha
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07:01 marcelr hi Joubu
07:01 sophie_m hello #koha
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07:02 marcelr hi sophie_m
07:03 sophie_m hello marcelr
07:03 alex_a bonjour
07:03 marcelr and alex_a
07:03 alex_a hello marcelr
07:08 dcook Hurray for the people at[…]s/drivers/iwlwifi
07:09 dcook Finding the right firmware for the right kernel totally made my day
07:09 dcook @later tell eythian Is Koha all right to run on Jessie now?
07:09 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded.
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07:19 putti how do I include a sample template to installer ?
07:20 magnuse putti: what do you mean by "sample template"?
07:20 magnuse a file of sql?
07:21 putti[…]_bug.cgi?id=12224
07:21 huginn Bug 12224: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, j.kylmala, Failed QA , Allow easy printing of patron check-in slip
07:21 putti cait's second last message, #3
07:22 magnuse ah "Please include the new sample template in the installers for the other languages."
07:23 putti There is already a file in installer/data/mysql/en/mandatory/sample_notices.sql
07:23 magnuse there should be a copy in each of the language folders under installer/data/mysql/
07:23 magnuse then e.g. i can translate the one in nb-NO in a followup
07:24 putti I see!
07:26 putti Looks like most of the data in the other languages' folders are still in English. So should I fill the non-english folders data with english data? And then we will later translate them? :D
07:27 magnuse yup, that is the way it is done
07:27 magnuse i know i need to go over the stuff in nb-NO and translate lots of things and add missing things
07:28 magnuse cait is Very Good at keeping the german folder in sync with en
07:28 putti :P
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08:49 magnuse @wunder boo
08:50 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 19.0°C (10:20 AM CEST on August 24, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
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08:55 magnuse wheee
09:09 Joubu fyi the export tool is broken (from cmdline), see bug 14709 for a patch
09:09 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14709 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , The export tool is broken if used from the command line
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10:03 drojf hi #koha
10:04 magnuse moin drojf
10:04 francesca hello
10:04 wahanui hi, francesca
10:05 drojf hei magnuse and francesca
10:05 francesca heya drojf
10:05 francesca hows it going
10:05 drojf it goes ;)
10:06 drojf mveron++
10:06 drojf cait++
10:07 eythian[…]ins-than-pay-rent <-- drojf, someone who shares your love of Deutsche Bahn
10:07 eythian dcook: yes, it is
10:08 drojf heh
10:08 drojf i would like that kind of ticket, even though i hate them ;)
10:12 drojf eythian: unusual time to see you online
10:12 eythian doing database recovery from something that fell over
10:13 drojf ouch
10:38 cdickinson @wunder lower hutt
10:38 huginn cdickinson: The current temperature in Waterloo, Lower Hutt, New Zealand is 12.3°C (10:30 PM NZST on August 24, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
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10:51 putti gmcharlt, Hi! Did you got my email about MARC::FILE::XML? Not sure if you use the gmail address which I found..
10:54 magnuse putti: might be a little early for gmcharlt, perhaps
10:54 magnuse @wunder boo
10:54 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 20.0°C (12:20 PM CEST on August 24, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
10:54 magnuse supposed to hit 24 in ~3 hours
10:55 putti 24 -- and the unit is ?
10:59 magnuse Celsius :-)
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11:40 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
11:40 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 25.0°C (1:20 PM CEST on August 24, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
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11:54 magnuse @wunder boo
11:54 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 22.0°C (1:20 PM CEST on August 24, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Falling).
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12:27 magnuse ¡hola tcohen!
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12:27 tcohen Hei, magnuse
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12:31 druthb @wunder 77447
12:31 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Blueberry Farm, Hockley, Texas is 25.6°C (7:31 AM CDT on August 24, 2015). Conditions: Fog. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 24.0°C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
12:31 druthb @wunder 77098
12:31 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Montrose (Mandell Place), Houston, Texas is 25.8°C (7:31 AM CDT on August 24, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 25.0°C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
12:32 druthb Hot and soupy humid. Welcome to Houston in the "fall".
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12:46 magnuse @wunder boo
12:46 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 22.0°C (2:20 PM CEST on August 24, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
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12:54 marcelr khall: bug 14702 could use your signoff :)
12:54 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14702 normal, P5 - low, ---,, Needs Signoff , Refactor GetReserveFee
12:54 khall I'll put that in my queue marcelr!
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13:02 * cait waves
13:02 marcelr hi cait
13:02 cait hi marcel - back at work now
13:02 cait but i had a really nice week in amsterdam :)
13:02 marcelr good timing also the weather
13:02 cait yeah not too hot :)
13:02 marcelr it rains now
13:03 cait aah
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13:23 tcohen hi cait
13:25 cait hi tcohen
13:27 marcelr tcohen: thx for 14464, i now rebased 9809 on top of it
13:27 marcelr and 14702 on top of that :)
13:27 tcohen .-D
13:27 marcelr holds are fun ;)
13:28 nengard um ...
13:30 tcohen they aren't :-P
13:30 tcohen they would, if we had unit tests for all of the use cases, so they aren't
13:31 nengard heh
13:33 marcelr tcohen: step by step we add unit tests..
13:34 marcelr have to go
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14:19 putti How do I change the text which goes to a slip? Now when I go to notices -> and then change some slips template it doesn't work and default to the one in database..
14:20 Joubu putti: using master?
14:20 Joubu Have you seen there are several slip notices?
14:20 putti yup
14:20 putti I tried with quick slip
14:20 Joubu the template used is "print"
14:22 putti maybe when I did some crazy things in mysql it broke ...
14:27 putti Joubu, well it still doesn't work..
14:27 putti ^ I cleared the db
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14:29 * Joubu is trying
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14:29 putti maybe there is some system preference which needs to be enabled...
14:29 Joubu putti: the "email" template is used indeed
14:30 Joubu but it works with this template
14:30 putti oh, works
14:31 putti thanks !
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14:50 tcohen hi Joubu
14:50 Joubu Hi tcohen!
15:07 reiveune bye
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16:11 Joubu see you #koha
16:11 tcohen i need a volunteer to press the enter key
16:11 tcohen on my keyboard
16:12 Putti autotyper?
16:12 Joubu rm -Rf C4
16:12 Joubu done
16:12 tcohen hahahh
16:12 tcohen nah
16:12 tcohen i'm about to push the plack patches
16:12 tcohen i just don't want to take responsibilities
16:12 tcohen :-P
16:13 tcohen nevermind
16:13 Putti :D
16:14 tcohen it is done
16:14 tcohen confetti!
16:14 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
16:14 tcohen confetti!
16:14 wahanui somebody said confetti was[…]1qh8hleo1_400.gif
16:15 tcohen confetti!
16:15 wahanui i think confetti is[…]1qh8hleo1_400.gif
16:15 tcohen ok, lunch time
16:15 tcohen thanks wahanui, it is great to feel understood like this
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16:18 cait hi #koha
16:19 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13791: (QA followup) Plack support requires Apache 2.4.8+ <[…]886a1a39d249a8780> / Bug 13791: tab-completion for koha-plack in bash <[…]123e935ef5eb0802e> / Bug 13791: make koha-common init script aware of plack <
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16:26 cait @wunder Konstanz
16:26 huginn cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 17.8°C (6:26 PM CEST on August 24, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Rising).
16:27 druthb @wunder 77098
16:27 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Montrose (Mandell Place), Houston, Texas is 32.4°C (11:27 AM CDT on August 24, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 24.0°C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
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17:22 magnuse @wunder boo
17:22 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 21.0°C (6:50 PM CEST on August 24, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
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19:02 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12372: Updated man pages for koha-mysql <[…]a567df24ea0a4034d> / Bug 12372: (QA followup) Standardized argument parsing for koha-mysql. <[…]538d6f57502d5a304> / Bug 12372: koha-mysql: process any mysql args <
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19:13 tcohen bye #koha
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20:17 rangi morning
20:17 pianohacker hi rangi
20:18 cait morning
20:18 cait well... evneing
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21:07 barton I find the way that works in master to be confusing ... clicking 'Upload file' gives you an 'Upload progress' bar, but it also blanks the file name and displays 'No file chosen' ... given that this was where I was last focused, my immediate thought was "wait! where did my file go!!???" ... If the progress bar gave me the file name of the file that was uploading, I would have been able to adjust. I think that's going to cau
21:11 dan_ Hello guys, could someone help me plz? My server is undergoing sudden shutdowns of the zebrasrv process, do you people know about any causes of this?
21:13 cait hm, i haven't seen this
21:13 cait are there any error messages?
21:13 cait what version are you running an dhow was koha installed?
21:13 dan_ barton: I gave up with a similar problem with importing records by using the GUI. Instead, I used the ./koha/bin/ script
21:14 dan_ v. 3.8
21:15 dan_ I have no found related messages in zebra logs
21:18 cait 3.8 is really old
21:18 cait we are currently at 3.20
21:20 dan_ isn't the v 3.8 having 'official support' ? :)
21:22 cait 3.18 is the latest release
21:22 cait 3.8 is no longer maintained
21:25 cait so not a lot of people are using it anymore
21:27 dan_ fine, it's not supported, but could you help me giving some light about this (or somewhat similar) issue please?
21:27 cait how did you install koha? is it a standard install, packages?
21:29 dan_ yes, it was standard (perl, make, make install, etc)
21:30 rangi what changed recently, to make zebrasrv start dying?
21:34 rangi did you upgrade zebra or something? zebrasrv lives outside Koha, so I would look into if there are any known bugs with the version you have installed etc
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21:44 dan_ zebra server is v. 2.0.59
21:46 dan_ is it necessary to update it to 2.0.60?
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21:48 dan_ I have not done any upgrades of zebra. 2.0.59 was the only version used until now
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21:49 jcamins dan_: your server has been running successfully for several years, right? Once you figure out what changed between when it worked and when it didn't, you'll probably know what the problem is.
21:49 jcamins One unfounded guess: insufficient disk space.
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21:52 dan_ jcamins: it could be that..
21:53 jcamins Your logs should give you actual evidence, though.
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22:25 wizzyrea cait, about? I know "probably not" but just thought I'd check
22:27 cait yep
22:28 cait i saw your message at work, but lost it
22:28 cait what was the question?
22:28 wizzyrea my question was, is there a tidy/easy way to switch from grs1 to dom? I find the wiki really confusing
22:29 cait it is a bit messy
22:29 cait because you need to edit files
22:29 cait[…]g_to_dom_indexing is the only thing we have right now i think
22:29 wizzyrea oh, the other question was about bug 14691 - there are two solutions and we don't know which one to prefer
22:29 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14691 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Can't delete patron with ' character in cardnumber
22:30 wizzyrea okies, I was hoping maybe there was a better way but maybe on my way through I'll tidy up the wiki :)
22:30 wizzyrea well 3 solutions really
22:31 cait hm not sure
22:31 cait i haven't looked at this one yet - i am basically still reading bug mails from my week of vacation
22:31 wizzyrea especially with the work for bug 13618, which is really needed and necessary
22:31 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13618 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Prevent XSS in the Staff Client and the OPAC
22:32 wizzyrea (and also fixes this, and it's similar bugs, long term)
22:32 wizzyrea ah yeah, that's fair enough
23:25 eythian hi
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23:51 francesca heya
23:55 wizzyrea hi
23:58 mtj wizzyrea, you can pinch the DOM files from new koha instance
23:58 wizzyrea mtj that is spectacular advice
23:58 mtj ..then do a regex thru them

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