IRC log for #koha, 2015-08-07

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00:18 pianohacker @later tell cait followup pushed for rantcor
00:18 huginn pianohacker: The operation succeeded.
00:18 pianohacker ... works better than I'd like
00:18 pianohacker bye all
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04:11 cdickinson @later tell rangi ~530 to provision a new Koha instance, and around 40 seconds in total to provision a new site by manually linearly telling the nodes to update themselves... should be reasonable but I haven't done anything to make it better yet :P
04:11 huginn cdickinson: The operation succeeded.
04:11 wizzyrea cdickinson++
04:20 AmitG hi
04:20 AmitG wizzyrea
04:20 wahanui wizzyrea doesn't exist anymore
04:20 wizzyrea hi
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05:32 cdickinson <wizzyrea> cdickinson++ - wizzyrea, I've been meaning to ask, what does that mean? :P
05:32 huginn cdickinson: Error: You're not allowed to adjust your own karma.
05:32 cdickinson well that answers that
05:33 cdickinson need to learn more about the karma system
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07:13 cait morning #koha
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07:18 * andreashm waves
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07:30 AmitG heya cait
07:31 * cait waves
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07:50 nlegrand hey #koha
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08:10 cait hi nlegrand
08:13 nlegrand hey cait ^^
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08:40 Dark_Librarian hello everyone
08:41 cait hi Dark_Librarian
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09:59 cait does someone know if we cache the marc frameworks and ohw to give that a kick if we do?
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12:13 nengard morning all
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12:28 tcohen morning!
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13:10 cait re my complaints the last 2 days about the plugin... i forgot to put the right pugin name INTO the plugin file
13:11 cait ... it's ok no
13:11 cait w
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13:11 cait morning tcohen!
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13:19 wnickc hello everyone!
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13:19 wnickc khall: hello
13:19 wahanui hey, wnickc
13:19 khall hi wnickc!
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13:20 khall what's up wnickc
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13:20 wnickc hi khall
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13:22 wnickc @wuder 05048\
13:22 huginn wnickc: I suck
13:23 wnickc @wuder 05048
13:23 huginn wnickc: I suck
13:23 wnickc @wunder 05048
13:23 huginn wnickc: The current temperature in Hartland Four Corners, Hartland, Vermont is 16.9°C (9:23 AM EDT on August 07, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015 hPa (Falling).
13:23 wnickc @later tell khall hello
13:23 huginn wnickc: The operation succeeded.
13:23 wnickc packages?
13:23 wahanui i guess packages is at
13:24 wnickc mailing lists?
13:24 wahanui mailing lists are[…]ha-mailing-lists/
13:24 wnickc listserv
13:24 wahanui try 'mailing list', wnickc
13:24 wnickc mailing list
13:24 wahanui mailing list is, like, at[…]ha-mailing-lists/
13:24 wnickc bug 9011
13:24 wahanui i think bug 9011 is quite large too
13:24 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9011 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, In Discussion , Add the ability to store the last patron to return an item
13:25 tubaclarinet @edveal hi
13:25 huginn tubaclarinet: downloading the Perl source
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13:26 Kchris hi wnickc
13:26 wnickc Hello
13:27 Kchris wnickc: this is chris from GMLC
13:27 wnickc Hi Kchris
13:28 wnickc at kohana say hi to everyone
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13:35 nengard hi kchris and wnickc
13:36 Kchris Hi nengard
13:36 cait hi kohana! (for wnickc to forward)
13:37 wnickc hi cait
13:37 tcohen hi khall cait wnickc nengard Kchris
13:37 cait hi tcohen :)
13:40 Rebecca Nick is demonstrating IRC for KohaNA :) fun
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13:40 cait :)
13:40 cait @wunder Konstanz
13:40 huginn cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 29.8°C (3:39 PM CEST on August 07, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Falling).
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13:41 Rebecca @wunder 16504
13:41 huginn Rebecca: The current temperature in E 38TH & LAKE PLEASANT, Erie, Pennsylvania is 20.0°C (9:40 AM EDT on August 07, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
13:42 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
13:42 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 16.6°C (10:40 AM ART on August 07, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Rising).
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13:42 jmsasse cait: Hello from koha-na:-)
13:43 jbriceiii anyone at Kohana that is interested in how the software development process works and what master and all of that good stuff is stop by and see me (the guy in the hawaiian shirt) I have a short 10 minute slide show that illustrates how all this works.
13:43 * cait waves at jmsasse
13:43 hbraum @jbriceiii can it be put online? that would be very useful for people, i’m sure!
13:43 huginn hbraum: downloading the Perl source
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13:44 cait hi hbraum :)
13:44 hbraum hi cait!
13:48 Kchris jbriceiii: I agree that it would be useful to put it online.
13:49 nengard jbriceiii I also have this on our site:[…]nt_process_21.jpg
13:49 Kchris Hi tcohen
13:49 nengard i'd love to see what you did differently
13:58 jbriceiii[…]/edit?usp=sharing
13:58 Kchris %n kchris_afk
13:59 jbriceiii please be aware the presentation I just posted is a graphical overview.  There is some narrative that goes with it.  So if it doe not make sense please stop by and I will fill in the blanks.
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13:59 Kchris oops. not sure how to change my nick name in Hexchat
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14:01 cait Kchris: try /nick newname
14:03 kchris_afk cait: thanks! it works!
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14:32 tcohen #koha: can we add a GPLv2+ file into Koha?
14:34 tcohen barton: did u take a look at bug 14217?
14:34 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14217 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Add a DOM syntax for specifying conditions on indexes
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14:41 kchris jbriceiii: you have provided a nice graphical overview. The best audience for this presentation is those who are brand new to open source.
14:42 barton tcohen: yes, I read through that last week when nengard asked about working with indicators. ... that was for lexile, which is still on my list :-)
14:43 tcohen lexile'
14:43 tcohen ?
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14:44 barton tcohen: see bug 14277
14:44 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14277 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, barton, ASSIGNED , Search index 'lex' does not honor MARC indicator "ind1"
14:45 tcohen ah
14:47 tcohen i marked as dependent on 14217
14:47 tcohen as it introduces the needed syntax
14:53 kchris another novice question:I am trying to backup kohadevbox data, and have attempted to use koha-dump, but a get "command not found", although "man koha-dump" displays manual page. perhaps I am running the script from the wrong folder.I'm not sure which one to use.
14:54 cait were you using sudo ?
14:54 kchris no
14:54 cait but should not make the difference i guess
14:56 barton actually, that reminds me ... I'm looking for a good way to do some data analysis on that partner's MARC 521 fields. Is there a good way of dumping that field and retaining its structure? ExtractValue( marcxml, '//datafield[@tag=521]/*' ) will flatten the field, and I need to get a feel for which indicators are there, and what the tag names are.
14:56 barton tcohen: thanks for putting in that dependency.
14:57 tcohen barton, do it in Perl :-D
14:57 kchris cait: sudo I get "failed to load external entity "/etc/kohasites/koha_kohadev/koha-conf.xml".that's some progress
14:58 cait hm sorry, not sure how to move on from there
14:59 tcohen cait: what is the problem?
14:59 wahanui hmmm... the problem is it's human beings doing it. Rebuild your indexes.
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15:01 cait tcohen: kchris tries to run koha-dump
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15:08 barton tcohen: yeah, I was coming to that conclusion... trying to shoehorn every marcxml record into a huge XML file then running xpath on the whole shebangus was an exersize in ... @words_describing_pain_and_frustration
15:10 cait hm you coudl convert to mrk wth marcedit and then use a good editor... not perfect, but it's what i usually work with
15:10 cait ... or do it in perl :)
15:10 barton prefer perl.
15:11 barton run linux almost exclusively... yes, I know that you can run marcedit in linux, but I'm philosophically against it ;-)
15:12 cait there are other tools you can use to convert
15:12 cait there is a blog post about how to do it with command line even on gmcharlts blog
15:12 cait i always refer to that when i need it
15:12 barton cait, you wouldn't happen to have a link?
15:14 TGoat what is mode +oo
15:15 barton good question, TGoat :-)
15:15 barton I know that it has something to do with ops privaledges in channel, but more I do not know.
15:17 cait barton: sorry no, i always miss to save it
15:18 cait ah but wait
15:18 cait[…]-marc-editor-vim/
15:18 barton cait, I was about to paste that link in ;-)
15:20 barton hm... that's interesting... might give me something that I could grep on.
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15:41 cait @wunder Konstanz
15:41 huginn cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 30.3°C (5:40 PM CEST on August 07, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
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16:28 ewaldosoft Buen dia estoy usando koha 3.16 y quiero actualizarlo alguien me puede apoyar?
16:29 tcohen ewaldosoft: que necestias?
16:29 ewaldosoft actualizarlo a 3.20
16:29 ewaldosoft
16:30 ewaldosoft koha lo tengo en ubuntu
17:32 tcohen gmcharlt: is it possible to ship a GPLv2+ file with Koha? (borrowed from another projec)
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18:00 wnickc pianohacker: around?
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18:06 pianohacker wnickc: shalom
18:06 pianohacker what's up?
18:07 wnickc Is there any method for linking authorities in rancor?
18:07 wnickc Just boning up to demonstrate later
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18:08 pianohacker wnickc: no, unfortunately... that's the subject of ongoing development, but not in the version on bug 11559
18:08 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11559 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , Professional cataloger's interface
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18:08 kidclamp pianohacker: anything  specific you want folks to poke at?
18:09 pianohacker hi kidclamp
18:09 kidclamp its wnickc, just kicked and doubled
18:09 pianohacker oh heh okay
18:10 pianohacker kidclamp: so, there's a test plan that's the whole gigantic set of features in rancor:[…].cgi?id=11559#c73
18:10 huginn Bug 11559: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , Professional cataloger's interface
18:10 pianohacker partial signoffs are 100% okay; if someone can test 1 feature and certify that it works well, that's cool
18:10 kidclamp ah, yes, I should read the hwole bug first :-)
18:11 pianohacker kidclamp: bugzilla comments would be the easiest way, but I can post a google spreadsheet if that would be faster on the ground. Your decision
18:11 kidclamp we'll see how far we got and take notes and then post to bz
18:12 pianohacker kidclamp: excellent! Make sure to note the sandbox posted near the end, it has the latest version with all the followups
18:12 pianohacker kidclamp++ # thanks for your help
18:12 kidclamp no prob, advance thanks for rancor
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18:41 tcohen rancor++
18:41 tcohen all for pushing it
18:42 tcohen @later tell marcelr my brain hurts reading the file upload patches. i cannot think of anything else appart from 'we should already have that REST API and most of this code would run away"
18:42 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
19:00 TGoat Nevada County picked auto-graphics
19:00 pianohacker hi TGoat ;)
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19:22 tcohen bye everyone, have a nice weekend
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22:10 tubaclarinet Hello world I thot I'd try this out after we talked about it a Koha NA conf
22:11 pianohacker hi tubaclarinet!
22:12 tubaclarinet Hello, I hope 2 join the koha mtgs on here
22:14 pianohacker tubaclarinet: you can see a list of future and past meetings if you click around[…]Category:Meetings , and they're also often announced on the mailing list
22:15 tubaclarinet Piano hacker: thank u; i'll check it out
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22:27 tubaclarinet Goodbye
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23:09 cdickinson @wunder lower hutt
23:09 huginn cdickinson: The current temperature in Waterloo, Lower Hutt, New Zealand is 5.7°C (11:00 AM NZST on August 08, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996 hPa (Steady).
23:09 cdickinson I knew it
23:09 cdickinson heater is coming back into my room
23:19 Francesca lol
23:19 Francesca @wunder wlg
23:19 huginn Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 7.0°C (11:00 AM NZST on August 08, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996 hPa (Steady).
23:21 cdickinson winter warmth pack: hoodie, fat pants, heater, warm breakfast
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23:25 Francesca winter warmth pack for the sick: bed, heater
23:27 cdickinson Francesca: not to mention slaves to get your food :P
23:27 Francesca I'm house sitting
23:27 Francesca theres no one here but me and the cats
23:28 pianohacker @later tell Joubu please see[…]g.cgi?id=14655#c4
23:28 huginn pianohacker: The operation succeeded.
23:28 huginn Bug 14655: blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Cannot checkin without Anonymous Patron
23:30 Francesca hi pianohacker
23:30 pianohacker hi Francesca :)
23:37 Francesca had a chance to do some piano hacking yet
23:39 pianohacker no... been a long week. Thank you, though, I should set up my piano tonight :)
23:40 pianohacker poor thing has been collecting dust
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