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wizzyrea |
ty for the video editing thread, btw eythian |
| 00:08 |
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eythian |
np |
| 00:12 |
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wizzyrea |
bobb - about? |
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eythian |
http://homestarrunner.com/flashisdead.html |
| 02:09 |
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wizzyrea |
teehee |
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eythian |
http://arstechnica.com/securit[…]t-to-hijack-macs/ <-- if you're a poor soul with a mac |
| 03:17 |
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rangi |
oh thats a nasty one |
| 03:26 |
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eythian |
https://www.fsf.org/blogs/comm[…]ly-reads-the-code |
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wizzyrea |
oh boy. |
| 04:02 |
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eythian |
that's what you would say. |
| 04:04 |
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* wizzyrea |
is not a poor soul with a mac |
| 04:10 |
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wizzyrea |
http://www.techworm.net/2015/0[…]pple-malware.html more good news for mac users |
| 04:10 |
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wizzyrea |
suggestion, don't turn it on, or plug it in to anything ever. |
| 04:13 |
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eythian |
happy blackhat week :) |
| 04:13 |
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wizzyrea |
^.^ |
| 04:23 |
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eythian |
elasticsearch indexing is getting really slow these days, as more stuff gets crammed in there. It really needs some optimisation. Anyone bored? :) |
| 04:24 |
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wizzyrea |
how slow is slow? |
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eythian |
hard to say |
| 04:26 |
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eythian |
I just remember it being really speedy in the past. |
| 04:26 |
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eythian |
and now it's possibly slower than a zebra reindex |
| 04:26 |
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wizzyrea |
ew |
| 04:27 |
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eythian |
(though, I'm not sure.) |
| 04:27 |
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eythian |
I know there are places it can be optimised though. |
| 04:27 |
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eythian |
I just haven't done that. |
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New_User |
hello everyone |
| 04:46 |
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New_User |
My name is Robert |
| 04:46 |
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New_User |
I need some help |
| 04:47 |
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New_User |
I got a new pc... |
| 04:47 |
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New_User |
I want to install Koha |
| 04:47 |
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New_User |
I dont know how to do it |
| 04:48 |
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New_User |
steps are not clearly to me |
| 04:49 |
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wizzyrea |
what are you planning to use your Koha for? |
| 04:51 |
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New_User |
to migrate some records |
| 04:51 |
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New_User |
and to put them online |
| 04:51 |
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New_User |
but i want to make a clean installation |
| 04:52 |
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rangi |
http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 04:52 |
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rangi |
there is no easier way than that |
| 04:52 |
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New_User |
ok |
| 04:53 |
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New_User |
so... i can install it using ubuntu? |
| 04:53 |
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New_User |
or should I use debian? |
| 04:54 |
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* rangi |
has to go catch a bus, but that guide will work for ubuntu or debian, as long as you are installing on trusty or later |
| 04:54 |
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New_User |
Ok |
| 04:54 |
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New_User |
and what do you recommend? |
| 04:54 |
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New_User |
ubuntu or debian? |
| 04:55 |
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New_User |
supose that I got a lot of user |
| 04:55 |
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New_User |
users* |
| 04:59 |
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New_User |
and should I get ubuntu desktop? or ubuntu server? |
| 05:09 |
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New_User |
Anyone? |
| 05:09 |
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wahanui |
Anyone is free to organize one at any time :-) |
| 05:09 |
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New_User |
Someone? |
| 05:09 |
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wahanui |
Someone is missing |
| 05:09 |
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New_User |
is this a joke? |
| 05:09 |
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New_User |
im serious!!! |
| 05:09 |
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eythian |
it's just a bot |
| 05:11 |
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New_User |
so... can you answer my question? |
| 05:11 |
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liw |
use the one you're more familiar with |
| 05:11 |
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New_User |
ok |
| 05:11 |
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eythian |
both ubuntu and debian are fine, if you're building a server, go with the server version, otherwise the decisions are based on whatever you're the most familiar with |
| 05:11 |
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New_User |
ty |
| 05:12 |
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New_User |
there are some things I dont understand |
| 05:12 |
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New_User |
but I guess that I need to see how it goes |
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New_User |
ty for aswer me |
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Joubu |
Hello #koha |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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cait |
morning #oha |
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cait |
#koha |
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cait |
wb Joubu |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
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cait |
morning gaetan_B |
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| 08:07 |
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cait |
hi all, anyone any experience with performance issues with cataloguing log turned on? |
| 08:08 |
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cait |
it's showing a warning message, but i amnot sure if it still applies: Don'log/Log any changes to bibliographic or item records. Since this occurs whenever a book is checked in or out as well, it is not advisable to turn this on. |
| 08:14 |
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Joubu |
cait: it looks safe looking at the code. There is only 1 call to GetMarcBib in ModBiblio, should not be heavy |
| 08:19 |
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cait |
Joubu: thx! |
| 08:19 |
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cait |
Joubu++ |
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nlegrand |
bonjour #koha |
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nlegrand |
Joubu++ |
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cait |
morning khall :) |
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drojf |
hi #koha |
| 10:22 |
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drojf |
anyone else having ssl problems with the irc server? i was unable to connect earlier |
| 10:23 |
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cdickinson |
been working fine here, though I always have to ignore the errors for self-signed certs... |
| 10:28 |
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drojf |
wahanui++ |
| 10:29 |
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cdickinson |
huh, so that Koha on Debian guide was finally made official |
| 10:33 |
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drojf |
cdickinson: what do you mean by 'made official'? |
| 10:34 |
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cdickinson |
drojf: well, it was just a draft for a long time |
| 10:34 |
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cdickinson |
maybe I didn't notice when the old guide was changed out |
| 10:34 |
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drojf |
isn't a wiki page a draft forever really? :) |
| 10:34 |
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cdickinson |
lol |
| 10:34 |
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cdickinson |
yeah, but at some point it has to be called 'good enough' :P |
| 10:36 |
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drojf |
i have been sending people there for years. i think it has been the best guide for a while now. but it looks like it got some cleaning |
| 11:13 |
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drojf |
@wunder berlin, germany |
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huginn` |
drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 33.0°C (12:50 PM CEST on August 04, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 28%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
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khall |
mornin cait et al! |
| 11:35 |
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nengard |
morning |
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cait |
morning khall, nengard |
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kivilahtio |
hi there! |
| 11:37 |
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kivilahtio |
What is the correct term to use for bookseller/bookvendoer/vendoer/seller/supplier? |
| 11:37 |
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cait |
vendor |
| 11:37 |
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kivilahtio |
thanks |
| 11:37 |
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kivilahtio |
just setting up test context for serials :) |
| 11:37 |
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kivilahtio |
lots of dependencies |
| 11:37 |
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cait |
http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Terminology |
| 11:37 |
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cait |
after the recent discussions we started a new wiki page |
| 11:38 |
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kivilahtio |
thanks |
| 11:38 |
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kivilahtio |
i'll bookmark taht |
| 11:38 |
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kivilahtio |
cait: here is our Finnish-Koha-Finnish terminology |
| 11:38 |
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kivilahtio |
http://renki.pohjoiskarjala.ne[…]B6_suomi-englanti |
| 11:39 |
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cait |
ah redmine :) |
| 11:40 |
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kivilahtio |
how about aqcontacs? |
| 11:40 |
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kivilahtio |
vendor contact? |
| 11:40 |
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cait |
hm native pseakers? |
| 11:40 |
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cait |
aqcontacts is the table that stores the multiple contacts for a vendor |
| 11:40 |
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kivilahtio |
yes |
| 11:40 |
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cait |
vendor contact / contacts would amke sense to me |
| 11:40 |
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kivilahtio |
ok |
| 11:41 |
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kivilahtio |
one test factory coming up :) |
| 11:41 |
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cait |
nengard: khall? |
| 11:41 |
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wahanui |
i think khall is volunteering to come over and fix it for you, it seems. ;) |
| 11:41 |
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kivilahtio |
I think this makes much sense without summoning everybody to debate it |
| 11:41 |
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nengard |
huh? |
| 11:41 |
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cait |
not looking for a debate, just trying to slip out :) |
| 11:41 |
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cait |
thought you had more |
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nengard |
oh - i see |
| 11:42 |
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nengard |
Vendor |
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nengard |
is the term we use here in the US |
| 11:50 |
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drojf |
@wunder thessaloniki |
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huginn` |
drojf: The current temperature in Thessaloniki, Greece is 33.0°C (2:20 PM EEST on August 04, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
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kivilahtio |
thx |
| 11:52 |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
| 11:52 |
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huginn` |
cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 24.9°C (1:52 PM CEST on August 04, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
| 11:52 |
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cait |
we are lucky here today |
| 11:54 |
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drojf |
woah that's ice cold :D |
| 11:54 |
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drojf |
@wunder berlin, germany |
| 11:54 |
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huginn` |
drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 33.0°C (1:50 PM CEST on August 04, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 26%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). |
| 12:13 |
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kivilahtio |
cait: nengard: If I need to create a Koha::Object subclass for koha.aqcontacts-table, should I name it Koha::VendorContacs, or Koha::Acqui::VendorContacts? |
| 12:14 |
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nengard |
hmm - that's more of a khall question than a question for me |
| 12:14 |
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kivilahtio |
or Koha::Accontacs :) |
| 12:14 |
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kivilahtio |
khall: :) |
| 12:14 |
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kivilahtio |
well if we are to use proper terms then I guess we need to use them in the backend as well |
| 12:15 |
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kivilahtio |
which adds to the maximum confusion of Koha internals nicely |
| 12:15 |
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kivilahtio |
I know I wont run out of creativity renaming things :) |
| 12:15 |
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khall |
kivilahtio: that's really a personal choice. I'd go with Koha::Acquisitions::VendorContact(s) myself |
| 12:15 |
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kivilahtio |
khall: yes! |
| 12:15 |
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kivilahtio |
khall: what a great opinion :D |
| 12:15 |
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khall |
kivilahtio: you could consult with Joubu on that |
| 12:15 |
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khall |
thanks! |
| 12:15 |
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kivilahtio |
khall: I have consulted enough |
| 12:15 |
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khall |
lol |
| 12:15 |
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kivilahtio |
my patience is limited |
| 12:15 |
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kivilahtio |
must code |
| 12:16 |
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khall |
then go forth and code! |
| 12:16 |
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kivilahtio |
yes sir! |
| 12:16 |
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kivilahtio |
khall: btw I read about bywater looking for funding to get into the auth rewrite? |
| 12:16 |
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kivilahtio |
I understood that you must get the REST API and ES done by the end of year to get the money |
| 12:17 |
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kivilahtio |
I havent replied to that yet, but we are still testing the big rewrites ourselves and are gently easing those thing into production now |
| 12:17 |
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khall |
kivilahtio: I'm not privy to those details, but I think your work on auth is a great start |
| 12:17 |
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khall |
excellent! |
| 12:17 |
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kivilahtio |
khall: fixing bugs as they come and keeping the bugzilla code fresh |
| 12:18 |
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khall |
fantasic! I know we'll be taking a look to try to sign off on your patches |
| 12:18 |
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khall |
not sure when, but it's on the todo list |
| 12:18 |
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kivilahtio |
khall: looking forward to it |
| 12:18 |
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kivilahtio |
khall: I just started working on the serials impriovements and that includes a lot of testing scaffolding for serials |
| 12:18 |
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khall |
fantastic! |
| 12:19 |
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kivilahtio |
we are following the TestObjectFactories and PageObject patterns |
| 12:19 |
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kivilahtio |
it is qome owrk to get the test frameworks updated to match all dependencies |
| 12:19 |
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kivilahtio |
khall: but just asking if you have any idea what I talk about when I say use TestObjectFactories? |
| 12:20 |
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kivilahtio |
there is a bug about that hint hint :) |
| 12:20 |
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khall |
yes, we'll be looking at all that ; ) |
| 12:20 |
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kivilahtio |
just asking for a heads up |
| 12:20 |
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khall |
can do! |
| 12:21 |
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kivilahtio |
khall: what do you think of the object factories vs a more dynamic approach, like Joubus testbuilder |
| 12:21 |
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kivilahtio |
I have been thinking of if there is a way of combining those two |
| 12:21 |
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kivilahtio |
There is a lot of code that needs to be written to create the test factories and it would help to have some testbuilder approach, but at the same time we must be able to utilize the C4:: constructors for objects |
| 12:21 |
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khall |
I have no strong opinion at the moment. If we *could* combine the two it would be good. We have no real standards for unit tests |
| 12:22 |
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kivilahtio |
testbuilder cannot be just a direct DB interface |
| 12:22 |
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kivilahtio |
it must utilize the business logic used to create objects |
| 12:22 |
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kivilahtio |
and that is very difficult since all object constructors are different |
| 12:22 |
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khall |
true |
| 12:23 |
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kivilahtio |
and depend on varying amounts of stuff |
| 12:23 |
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kivilahtio |
atleast the object factories provide a uniform interface for all actions |
| 12:23 |
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khall |
we do have some instropspection abilities |
| 12:23 |
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kivilahtio |
so we can refactor the internals to a better model |
| 12:23 |
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khall |
sounds like a good plan |
| 12:23 |
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kivilahtio |
how do you think introspection will help here? |
| 12:24 |
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kivilahtio |
we could create a configuration fole for each testobjectfacotry subclass and there define constructor, destructor, updater |
| 12:24 |
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kivilahtio |
this would eliminate a lot of duplicate code |
| 12:24 |
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kivilahtio |
but then we need custom code to deal with exceptions |
| 12:25 |
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kivilahtio |
this is hard :) |
| 12:25 |
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kivilahtio |
well mu brain cannot deal with all of this at once |
| 12:25 |
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kivilahtio |
so ill just keep doing what i do for now |
| 12:25 |
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kivilahtio |
thanks for the chat! |
| 12:28 |
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kivilahtio |
hmm, somebody already implemented Koha::Acquisition::Bookseller, without thought of improving the used terminology |
| 12:28 |
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kivilahtio |
well maybe that is for the best |
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tcohen |
morning |
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tcohen |
wb Joubu |
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tcohen |
kivilahtio: hypnotoad? really? |
| 12:38 |
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tcohen |
as a dependency for the REST API? |
| 12:38 |
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kivilahtio |
tcohen: Is it? |
| 12:39 |
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kivilahtio |
tcohen: if you are talking about Bug 13799 - 1.1 RESTful API with reverse proxy configuration without api.host.domain |
| 12:40 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13799 new feature, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Add base for building RESTful API |
| 12:40 |
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kivilahtio |
this is an alternative |
| 12:40 |
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tcohen |
are you upstreaming your infrastructure's setup? |
| 12:40 |
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kivilahtio |
tcohen: we don't use plack so I cannot help you in deploying Koha REST API with it |
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kivilahtio |
tcohen: we reverse proxy to Mojolicious-capable server |
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tcohen |
i'm not saying i don't like it, just wondering how can avoid people flying away of this dev |
| 12:41 |
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kivilahtio |
hypnotoad seems to be the recommended reverse proxy produyction choice for Mojo |
| 12:41 |
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kivilahtio |
tcohen: somebody could make scripts how it works with Plack :) |
| 12:41 |
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tcohen |
hmpf |
| 12:41 |
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kivilahtio |
hypnotoad also comes with Mojolicious so you don't need to install anything new |
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kivilahtio |
afaik REST API is supposed to be ran with plack? |
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kivilahtio |
which is know nothing of |
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kivilahtio |
tcohen: also we cannot just simply pop up a new dns-rule for us, we need to beg for it, so it is much more convenient to reverse proxy |
| 12:42 |
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tcohen |
it is supposed to run with plack. yes |
| 12:43 |
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tcohen |
something like opac.fqdn/api and staff.fqdn/api |
| 12:43 |
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kivilahtio |
so I made a reverse proxy config, also I don't understand anything about the original confiuration Julian made :) |
| 12:43 |
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tcohen |
reverse-proxying it |
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kivilahtio |
tcohen: yes we have those endpoints |
| 12:44 |
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kivilahtio |
tcohen: that is how it is reverse proxied, but currently in proxies staff.fqdn/v1 |
| 12:45 |
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kivilahtio |
tcohen: If you have better alternatives for hypnotoad please let me know |
| 12:46 |
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kivilahtio |
but like I said it comes preinstalled with Mojolicious, there is no running away, it also supports hot code refresh |
| 12:46 |
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kivilahtio |
which is much cool |
| 12:46 |
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kivilahtio |
hypnotoad is pretty cool :) |
| 12:46 |
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kivilahtio |
even the name is :) |
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kivilahtio |
a bit like plack, or starman |
| 12:47 |
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kivilahtio |
but currently hypnotoad get s the rest api rolling. |
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Joubu |
kivilahtio: have you seen bug 13726? |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13726 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Koha::Acquisition::Bookseller should use Koha::Object |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: thanks! Great job |
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kivilahtio: it needs SO for a while |
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Joubu |
kivilahtio: I have created a Koha::Acq::Bookseller::Contacts class |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: I am looking at your commit |
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Joubu |
kivilahtio: but it depends on bug 13323... |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13323 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Change the tax rate on receiving |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: depends on a lot of things |
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Joubu |
kivilahtio: all others have been pushed |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: 13719 looks hairy |
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kivilahtio |
and scary |
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cait |
bug 13719 |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13719 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Make Koha::Objects store list of resultant objects on an as needed basis |
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kivilahtio |
shouldnt that be dealt with using DBIx prefetch or caching or something? |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: it would be nice if thise Koha::Objects would be in their own separate commits |
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kivilahtio |
I could just pick them and sign off that |
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Joubu |
kivilahtio: I did it after the VAT rewrite |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: but? |
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wahanui |
but is it right? -a -b -x should abort because -a and -x are not mixable? |
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Joubu |
and I did not want to rebase the tax rewrite on top of anything |
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kivilahtio |
ok |
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kivilahtio |
thanks |
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Joubu |
please don't duplicate effort :) |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: I am trying |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: The problem is that after developing against Master i need to backport my test things to 3.16 |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: your bug introduces a lot of new changes and I cannot use that as a dependency when backporting to 3.16 |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: I am thinking how I can make these as compatible as possible |
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kivilahtio |
and possibly reuse your Koha::Objects |
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Joubu |
it won't backportable to 3.16 |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: we are planning to upgrade but I don't know into which Koha version |
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tcohen |
new classes can be backported |
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kivilahtio |
tcohen: yes |
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kivilahtio |
tcohen: Koha::Object runs nicely on 3.16 as well |
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kivilahtio |
tcohen: do you have any heads up when 3.22 is coming out? |
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tcohen |
end of november |
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kivilahtio |
cool |
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Joubu |
tcohen: yes, you are right |
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tcohen |
hi! |
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kivilahtio |
hi! |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: I would presume that the term bookseller is here to saty? |
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kivilahtio |
and not refactoring to endor in the business layer? |
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kivilahtio |
*Vendor |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: *I would presume that the term bookseller is here to stay? |
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Joubu |
really I don't know what to answer you |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: :) I just had this discussion should Bookseller be renamed to Vendor, as it is in the front end |
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Joubu |
given that everything I develop take ages to be integrated, I try to introduce as few changes as possible |
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kivilahtio |
so we could have only one term to describe this one thing |
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Joubu |
so to avoid trolls, etc. I kept Bookseller |
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kivilahtio |
I understand :) |
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Joubu |
(as I kept VirtualShelves) |
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tcohen |
hey, I would troll Virtualshleves :-P |
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kivilahtio |
yesh it sounds like something from the future |
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Joubu |
go on |
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* Joubu |
is closing his eyes |
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kivilahtio |
but the imprtant thing here is that Joubu didn't invent the thing |
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kivilahtio |
or did he? |
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kivilahtio |
that sounds like it has been here for ages |
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kivilahtio |
way before Joubu was born |
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kivilahtio |
so we can hardly blme him for it |
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Kchris |
Hi. I am looking to try to help out with Koha development, possibly by starting with signing off on patches. So far, I have set up Kohadevbox and have been reading up on the Koha wiki about development with Git. I don't have any test data yet installed on the server, and am not clear how to do this. Any general advice? |
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kivilahtio |
Kchris: tough one |
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kivilahtio |
Kchris: to sign off patches all you need is the default Koha database you get when you install Koha |
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tcohen |
Kchris: if you have successfully run kohadevbox |
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tcohen |
then you have all the needed data in place |
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kivilahtio |
Kchris: this is the default configuration and all tests and features are developed against it |
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kivilahtio |
Kchris: if you want to do more extensive testing, then you need some extensive data. We have a lot of data for Koha 3.16 :) but that is too stale to help you now. |
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cait |
hm there is a small marc21 database i think for testing with sandboxes -but i'd recommend starting with the sample data and build it up yourself a bit |
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cait |
hi tcohen :) |
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kivilahtio |
Kchris: I recommend using Z39.50/SRU searches to get example biblios from Library of Congress |
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Kchris |
I haven't loaded any data. I noticed a link to a test data set on the wiki. |
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tcohen |
hi cait |
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kivilahtio |
Kchris: this way you can easily set up manual test contexts |
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kivilahtio |
Kchris: but this says nothing about real world performance issues for ex. |
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kivilahtio |
Kchris: but I think you make 99% of everybody happy by just having the default database |
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kivilahtio |
Kchris: Everybody is really happy to hear that someone is eager to start signing off patches |
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kivilahtio |
Kchris: also by building the manual test contexts using Koha you learn a lot about how it works |
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Kchris |
kivilahtio: thanks for the idea about using z39.50/SRU. I noticed there is a link to test data here:http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]hment.cgi?id=6653 |
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kivilahtio |
Kchris: make a lot of DB dumps to back up your test contexts |
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kivilahtio |
Kchris: redoing them again and again get really borings quickly |
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Kchris |
Kivilahtio: Is that the sample data you were referring to? |
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kivilahtio |
Kchris: no, I was refering to you craeting new Records and Items and Subscriptions and Orders when testing for stuff. |
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kivilahtio |
If you make manua lwork backup it, so you can more easily replay your tests |
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kivilahtio |
just a hint |
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kivilahtio |
I am sure you already knew that :) |
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kivilahtio |
it is very easy with the default DB since it is so small |
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Kchris |
kivilahtio: I am new to this. So this is all good advice. |
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cait |
Kchris: also whenever you have questions - just jump in here |
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cait |
:) |
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Kchris |
tcohen: you mentioned that if I have successfully run kohadevbox, I will have all the needed data. I can run kohadevbox, but I don't see that it is populated with any marc records. Perhaps I haven't completed the setup? |
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tcohen |
ah, you are right, I missread, it doesnt' have any records |
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tcohen |
there are soem on the wiki |
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tcohen |
marc records? |
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tcohen |
sample records? |
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Kchris |
Yes, I was thinking of sample marc records. But I guess I can just load those throug z39.50. |
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tcohen |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_sample_MARC_data |
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kivilahtio |
tcohen: I cant believe aqcontacts and aqbookseller don't have the name as a UNIQUE column |
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kivilahtio |
we can have exactly same named vendor multiple times in the GUI and who knows which one to pick? |
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kivilahtio |
I wonder if I can fix that |
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kivilahtio |
it it is acceptable |
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tcohen |
kivilahtio: we should probably show more information to be able to choose the right own |
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kivilahtio |
tcohen: or name them smartly :) |
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tcohen |
wahanui: sample records is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_sample_MARC_data |
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wahanui |
OK, tcohen. |
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kivilahtio |
but you do have a point |
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tcohen |
sample records? |
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wahanui |
sample records is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_sample_MARC_data |
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drojf |
how bad will analytics work with links by title instead of control number? |
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cait |
it depends on your data |
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cait |
the new library we have...it doesn't work very well |
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cait |
long.. complicated... strange punctuation... |
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cait |
if the title and the string match exactly, it will work perfectly |
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cait |
given you don't have stuff that zebra doesn't like anyway |
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drojf |
and if you have lots of (unrelated) stuff with the same title it won't work either i guess |
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drojf |
i don't remember if/ how i generated control numbers for my old library, have to look that up |
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cait |
yeah... it does a phrase search... although without icu ext would be even more exact |
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drojf |
cait: don't you use ppn as control numbers in your libraries? would that not work for analytics? |
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cait |
yep |
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cait |
it works - but we sometimes get old data where the link are missing the $w |
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cait |
so assigning a 001 alone is only half the fix :) |
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drojf |
true |
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jcamins |
drojf: badly. But it's doable. |
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drojf |
there may be unique call numbers i could controlnumberify. everything beyond that is probably not possible on the available budget |
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drojf |
@wunder berlin, germany |
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drojf |
meh |
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Kchris |
@wunder burlington, vermont |
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Joubu |
See you tomorrow! |
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gaetan_B |
bye |
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tcohen |
@later tell mtompset I cc-ed you on a bug. It is a message :-D |
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tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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cait |
ping pianohacker |
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pianohacker |
hi cait |
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tcohen |
mk_ro_accessors? |
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cait: can't read |
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cait |
argh |
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cait |
sec |
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Shane-S |
Q: I added a new record and item...now (about a week later) I can't find it searching in the admin side... any clue what might be stopped? Zebra? Koha Version:.20.02.000 |
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Shane-S |
If it helps, I upgraded from 3.12 to the 3.20 |
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pianohacker |
Shane-S: is your zebra daemon running, and do you have the indexing cronjob running? |
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Shane-S |
not sure how to check either...would the daemon show with top? |
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pianohacker |
yup |
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pianohacker |
though I'd recommand ps aux | grep zebra as a faster method |
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Shane-S |
rebuild_zebra.p pop to up once in top |
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pianohacker |
what about zebrasrv? |
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Shane-S |
can I grep top? I don't see it when I watch it |
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Shane-S |
not seeing zberasrv at all watching top |
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pianohacker |
Shane-S: run the following: |
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pianohacker |
ps aux | grep zebra |
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"Shane-S" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "ps aux" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/31 |
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pianohacker |
Shane-S: it does look like you have two different koha sites; positive you're using the right one? |
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Shane-S |
well both are having issues, I entered data in both and can't find the new records/items in the admin "search the catalog" |
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Shane-S |
since it is across both, but we go no errors entering records/items, I assume it is Zebra for the search. |
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Shane-S |
I guess I could launch mysql and check myself. |
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pianohacker |
Shane-S: one quick way to check is to manually reindex zebra |
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pianohacker |
how many bib records do you have? |
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Shane-S |
mine...5K+ the woodburyhts one problem <1K |
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Shane-S |
probably |
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wahanui |
probably is probably not, but i do not know another way |
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pianohacker |
ignore wahanui, it's a chatbot :) |
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pianohacker |
okay, excellent |
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pianohacker |
Shane-S: Run sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -a -b -f -v woodburyhts koha |
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pianohacker |
the switches mean authorities, biblios, full reindex and verbose in that order |
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Shane-S |
pianohacker: okay thank,s doing it now |
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Shane-S |
got this...and sitting at a still cursor...16:17:48-04/08 zebraidx(19638) [warn] Couldn't open collection.abs [No such file or directory] |
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pianohacker |
that's... quirky |
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Shane-S |
yeah 3.12-> 3.20 required many ubuntu package updates..but everything looked fine initially |
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cait |
hmmmm |
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cait |
i think i have an idea |
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cait |
dom |
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pianohacker |
ohhhhhhhhhh |
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pianohacker |
we have a wiki page for that, right? |
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cait |
Shane-S: could you go in your koha and on the about page check the system infrmation tab for a warning? |
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"Shane-S" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Warning The <zebra_bib_index_m" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/32 |
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Shane-S |
see I am in depreciated setup |
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Shane-S |
seems* |
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cait |
yep |
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pianohacker |
cait++ # good idea |
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cait |
it reads a bit confusing, but we will figure it out :) |
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Shane-S |
will you all be one tomorrow? |
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Shane-S |
maintaince is kicking me out :( |
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cait |
oh we will be here |
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cait |
just keep in mind you want to know how to switch your koha from grs1 to dom |
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Shane-S |
okay, thanks! |
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Shane-S |
yeah, once I read that log made more sense |
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cait |
and this might be helpful http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]g_to_dom_indexing |
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Shane-S |
Thank you very much pianohacker and cait |
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pianohacker |
absolutely |
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Shane-S |
awesome left it in an open tab and bookmarked |
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Shane-S |
I will give it a go and stop back in if I can't get it working solo |
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drojf |
@wunder berlin, germany |
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drojf |
where is the promised thunderstorm? and i'm sure it is way warmer than 23 |
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Francesca |
I hate thunderstorms |
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* Francesca |
waves at wizzyrea |
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drojf |
Francesca: i love them, and even more after a day with 35°C |
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Francesca |
wow |
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drojf |
would really help to cool my flat down. which would help with sleeping before 3am |
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Francesca |
thats a pretty extreme temperature |
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drojf |
they announced up to 38 |
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pianohacker |
ow... |
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pianohacker |
portable air conditioner/swampcooler? |
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Francesca |
so hot! |
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pianohacker |
loud but does the trick |
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Francesca |
I have a fan pen |
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pianohacker |
dbix class question; does the join => parameter to search take the table or resultset name? |
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drojf |
it's the most summery summer in a while i think ;) |
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cait |
agrees |
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Francesca |
@wunder wlg |
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Francesca |
@wunder wlg |
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tcohen |
hi |
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wahanui |
hey, tcohen |
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Francesca |
hello |
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tcohen |
hi Francesca |
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tcohen |
is anyone around using kohadevbox |
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tcohen |
? |
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rangi |
right now? |
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wahanui |
somebody said right now was testing just somebody seeing if it works? |
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rangi |
or just in general? |
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wizzyrea_ |
tcohen: what's the question? |
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wahanui |
the question is "What is the meaning of life, the universe and everything?" |
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wizzyrea_ |
42 |
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tcohen |
i've been struggling with my kohadevbox recently |
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tcohen |
not sure how the f* but i cannot warn on the terminal |
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rangi |
i use it most days at home, and aleisha uses it |
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rangi |
weird, i haven't run into that at all |
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wizzyrea_ |
I use it most of the time at home |
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tcohen |
it works flawlessly on my ubuntu bow |
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tcohen |
box |
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tcohen |
can u try a small thing rangi? |
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tcohen |
warn something inside Koha::RecordProcessor::new() |
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tcohen |
and run prove t/RecordProcessor.t |
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rangi |
i can when i get home tonight |
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tcohen |
inside your vagrant box |
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rangi |
its on my laptop, not on my work computer |
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tcohen |
do |
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tcohen |
I do |
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tcohen |
vagrant ssh > koha-shell kohadev > cd kohaclone |
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tcohen |
and then run it |
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tcohen |
it is certaintly weird |
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tcohen |
thanks |
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wizzyrea_ |
wfm |
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tcohen |
wizzyrea: do you have your kohadevbox easily accesible? |
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wizzyrea_ |
yea, it works for me |
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cait |
social bookmarking- is thisstill a thing? |
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wizzyrea_ |
oh, it doesn't work inside koha-shell |
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wizzyrea_ |
you're not crazy. |
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tcohen |
ahhhhhhhh |
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* tcohen |
knew he wasn't *that* crazy |
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rangi |
it even warns you :) |
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tcohen |
really? |
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rangi |
bash: cannot set terminal process group (-1): Inappropriate ioctl for device |
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rangi |
bash: no job control in this shell |
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rangi |
those are symptoms of the same thing, it's a koha-shell thing |
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tcohen |
thanks |
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tcohen |
i guess i've been a bit lazy today |
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rangi |
its just running /bin/su with a bunch of options .. i suspect we need to change something so it fixes that |
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rangi |
cos sudo /bin/su test-koha is happy |
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pianohacker |
rangi: yeah, we should switch to sudo if possible, it looks like this is a security WONTFIX for su: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bi[…]rt.cgi?bug=628843 (barton told me about this) |
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rangi |
well sudo adn su do totally different things |
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pianohacker |
indeed |
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tcohen |
sudo -u kohadev-koha -s |
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tcohen |
should work |
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rangi |
'/bin/su' '--command' 'env KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/sites/test/koha-conf.xml PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib /bin/bash' 'test-koha' |
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rangi |
is what it is running |
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pianohacker |
we'd have to do some automatic sudoers setup, but that should be possible in theory with /etc/sudoers.d, no? The only barrier is that I'm not sure how long debian has had sudoers.d |
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wizzyrea_ |
additionally it would be nice to be able to feed it the perl5lib to use. |
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rangi |
well thats a whole other thing, i dont think using it using su is any more or less secure, its only a problem if debian decides to remove su from its machines |
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wizzyrea_ |
suppose you can use --preserve-environment |
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rangi |
yep |
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pianohacker |
according to https://wiki.debian.org/sudo , section "The include directive", this should work in wheezy |
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wizzyrea_ |
which I am ashamed I didn't know about until this very moment. |
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rangi |
dude, you're scope creeping |
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pianohacker |
yeah I know |
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rangi |
the error just comes from the empty --command |
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tcohen |
rangi, wizzyrea, pianohacker: that made my day, thanks. It must be the flu |
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tcohen |
see u guys, have to leave |
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rangi |
actually no, it comes from the /bin/bash bit ;) |
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pianohacker |
bye tcohen :) |
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wizzyrea_ |
later tcohen |
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rangi |
doh too slow |
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pianohacker |
rangi: okay, so without no scope creepin', couldn't we do *breathes in* env -i KOHA_CONF=... PERL5LIB=... su - test-koha *breathes out* ? |
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pianohacker |
sorry |
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pianohacker |
env -i KOHA_CONF=... PERL5LIB=... su -p - test-koha |
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rangi |
we could |
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rangi |
but the actual problem is just the /bin/bash |
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rangi |
if we leave that out |
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pianohacker |
if we leave that out, we're just running env, no? |
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rangi |
koha-shell is happier (well its 90% happy anyway) |
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rangi |
true, yeah reordering would work |
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rangi |
i usually run -s zsh |
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rangi |
cos thats my prefered shell, so i dont bump into this |
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rangi |
sudo koha-shell test -s zsh |
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rangi |
test-koha rorohiko /home/chrisc/git/catalyst-koha |
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rangi |
unfortunately you can't see the pretty colours ;) |
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pianohacker |
wait, hold on, does -s bash work? |
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pianohacker |
(and yes, I bet they're beautiful ; |
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pianohacker |
;) |
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rangi |
nope |
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pianohacker |
how does zsh cope, then? |
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rangi |
sudo koha-shell test -s bash |
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rangi |
bash: cannot set terminal process group (-1): Inappropriate ioctl for device |
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rangi |
bash: no job control in this shell |
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rangi |
i mean i still get a shell |
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rangi |
and can do everything |
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rangi |
it just does a couple of weird things |
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rangi |
zsh doesnt care about the tty |
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rangi |
in the same way sh and bash do |
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rangi |
sudo koha-shell test -s sh |
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rangi |
sh: 0: can't access tty; job control turned off |
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pianohacker |
ah, looks like zsh has the same issue, it just doesn't complain about it :) |
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rangi |
the warns seem to be happy |
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wizzyrea_ |
mtj was asking about this ages ago |
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rangi |
i mean i can see warns on the command line |
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pianohacker |
sleep 10<Enter><Ctrl-Z> backgrounds zsh, not sleep |
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pianohacker |
at least on my system :) |
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wizzyrea_ |
I think the warns are unrelated to the shell |
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wizzyrea_ |
to the messages, anyway |
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wizzyrea_ |
because I think what's happening is that the perl5lib isn't set right in koha-shell, you have to set it each time for a git install |
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wizzyrea_ |
it uses the one from the packages. |
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rangi |
ahh yeah, that makes sense |
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wizzyrea_ |
evidence, I put in a warn in git, started koha-shell, ran the test, no warn. |
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wizzyrea_ |
changed the perl5lib to the git install, ran the test, warns galore. |
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pianohacker |
... why would perl5lib affect warns? |
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wizzyrea_ |
because it's doing a use Koha::something and it's asking for the one in usr/share/koha |
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wizzyrea_ |
based on the perl5lib |
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pianohacker |
ah okay |
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rangi |
yeah that makes sense |
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wizzyrea_ |
because devbox uses a gitified package install, rather than a dev install |
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rangi |
id still like to fix this shell issue, but yeah i think its not causing tcohens problem |
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wizzyrea_ |
yeah, fixing the messages would be nice |
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eythian |
hi |
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wizzyrea_ |
hi eythian |
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wizzyrea_ |
it would be really nice if on gitify, we could symlink the package tools to the one in the git install |
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pianohacker |
yes! definitely |
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pianohacker |
wait, though, which git install? |
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eythian |
wizzyrea_: that wouldn't work |
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rangi |
yeah you could have a bunch |
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wizzyrea_ |
right, but in devbox you probably wouldn't |
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wizzyrea_ |
which is really the only context I'm thinking in at this exact moment. |
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pianohacker |
true, but it would be nice to have a cleaner solution that worked for multiple gitfies :) |
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eythian |
the "best" way is to have everything in a library, and the appropriate function is called, and the script is only a very thing wrapper around that. |
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wizzyrea_ |
omg I cannot deal with this shocking laptop. So frustrating. It shocks me when it's plugged in. |
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wizzyrea_ |
all good when it's on the battery. |
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wizzyrea_ |
sorry that was a non-sequitur. |
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eythian |
that's bad |
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cait |
it sounds like your laptop is a torture device |
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wizzyrea_ |
it basically is |
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wizzyrea_ |
I'd have to take it all apart to fix it. |
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cdickinson |
sounds like a grounding problem |
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eythian |
yeah |
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wizzyrea_ |
it is, the plug isn't grounded, and I'm the ground. |
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wizzyrea_ |
it's a known thing with this particular asus laptop. |
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cdickinson |
the plug isn't grounded? any laptop made within the past forever should be grounded |
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wizzyrea_ |
nope, it's a two prong. |
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cdickinson |
does it have a three-prong connector at the power supply end? |
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wizzyrea_ |
nope |
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cdickinson |
Wow |
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wizzyrea_ |
yeah it's silly |
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wizzyrea_ |
http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Zen[…]ter/dp/B008U0310S like this but with nz/au power prongs. |
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cdickinson |
downright dangerous |
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wizzyrea_ |
I don't actually see an alternative one, either |
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wizzyrea_ |
like, I can't *get* a grounded version |
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wizzyrea_ |
i totally would! |
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wizzyrea_ |
oh oh I found one with 3 prongs! I swear I didn't see this several months ago when I was looking |
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cdickinson |
that's a relief |
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wizzyrea_ |
going back to what we were talking about before, alternative to having gitify modify the koha-* scripts to set the perl5lib correctly, I'd want to be able to specify on the command line which one to use, or have it get it from the koha-conf, or something. It's a problem that annoys me because using the package tools for things like reindexing and koha-shell is really nice for devs. |
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wizzyrea_ |
it's the primary reason for not doing a standard dev install. |
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wizzyrea_ |
kohadevbox |
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wahanui |
kohadevbox is at https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox |
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pianohacker |
I was just about to tell cait to go to bed |
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* dcook |
waves |
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eythian |
hi dcook |
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dcook |
heya eythian |
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wizzyrea_ |
hi dcook |
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dcook |
yo wizzyrea_ :) |
