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tcohen |
hi |
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BobB |
hi tcohen |
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tcohen |
hi BobB |
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eythian |
hello tcohen |
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eythian |
http://www.sadanduseless.com/2[…]different-person/ |
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wizzyrea |
that is giggleworthy in a terrible sort of way |
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mtj |
its got me laughting :) |
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mtj |
hey #koha |
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wizzyrea |
hi mtj :) |
| 02:05 |
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eythian |
hello mtj |
| 02:23 |
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mtj |
hiyaz |
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mtj |
eythian: the tweller books look pretty amazing ^ |
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eythian |
ikr |
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mtj |
graet website too -> http://tweller.com/ |
| 02:26 |
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mtj |
(optimized for IE6) |
| 02:27 |
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eythian |
it loads an entire VLC instance as a plugin just to make a "quack" noise. |
| 02:29 |
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wizzyrea |
perl translate install -f opac-results.tt en-NZ < best thing ever. |
| 02:29 |
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wizzyrea |
or at least, it's the best thing ever in the last 10 minutes |
| 02:30 |
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eythian |
what does that do? |
| 02:30 |
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wizzyrea |
it translates only that one file |
| 02:30 |
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wizzyrea |
instead of doing all of everything |
| 02:30 |
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eythian |
ah |
| 02:30 |
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eythian |
someone should add that to koha-translate... :) |
| 02:30 |
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dcook |
Ooh. That's nice. |
| 02:30 |
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wizzyrea |
good point, kind of surprised it's not in there actually |
| 02:31 |
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dcook |
Is there a en-CA? |
| 02:31 |
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dcook |
We could just add "eh?" to the end of everything |
| 02:31 |
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eythian |
dcook: have you made it? :) |
| 02:31 |
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dcook |
Am I allowed to make that joke? |
| 02:31 |
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wizzyrea |
LOL |
| 02:31 |
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eythian |
that'll work too... |
| 02:31 |
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dcook |
Actually, I guess en-CA would be close enough to en-NZ |
| 02:32 |
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wizzyrea |
all of the en/british english have strange variations about which words have u's and z's in them. |
| 02:32 |
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dcook |
Yeah? |
| 02:32 |
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wizzyrea |
there isn't a hard and fast rule. |
| 02:32 |
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dcook |
Really? |
| 02:32 |
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dcook |
I never realized/realised |
| 02:32 |
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wizzyrea |
there seems a lot of variation |
| 02:33 |
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wizzyrea |
organisation or organization? |
| 02:33 |
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wizzyrea |
you see both |
| 02:33 |
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dcook |
Really? |
| 02:33 |
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wizzyrea |
organise, organiz |
| 02:33 |
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dcook |
I think I've only seen organisation here |
| 02:33 |
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wizzyrea |
with an e |
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dcook |
Organization in North America... or if someone is using software set to En-US |
| 02:33 |
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wizzyrea |
customize or customise |
| 02:33 |
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dcook |
Oh, but I guess Canada uses Z instead of S... but we add Us to things |
| 02:33 |
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dcook |
I'm pretty sure English just wants to troll the world |
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wizzyrea |
^^^^^^^^^ |
| 02:34 |
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dcook |
"Oh, you want to learn me? Let's make it impossible to do perfectly well." |
| 02:34 |
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eythian |
dcook: yes, only it's pronounced "rule" |
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dcook |
hehe |
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wizzyrea |
keke |
| 02:34 |
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wizzyrea |
now I really want a parody of "everybody wants to rule the world" with "english wants to troll the world" |
| 02:35 |
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wizzyrea |
"english language wants to troll the world" to get the rhythm closer. |
| 02:35 |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 02:35 |
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dcook |
Oh god, I can hear it in my head! |
| 02:35 |
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wizzyrea |
I know right! |
| 02:35 |
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ibeardslee |
wizzyrea: So, the english language, not Bill English with his budget? |
| 02:36 |
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wizzyrea |
he also wants to troll the world. |
| 02:36 |
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wizzyrea |
but that's less humorous. |
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ibeardslee |
very less |
| 02:36 |
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wizzyrea |
it'd have to be "william" to fit :P |
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wizzyrea |
https://soundcloud.com/giorgio[…]o-moroder-remixes < currently |
| 02:38 |
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wizzyrea |
joywave, the band that's only good when they're working with electronica bands. |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 02:39 |
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dcook |
I don't think I could be in a band. I just couldn't... pose like that. |
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wizzyrea |
https://soundcloud.com/bigdata[…]ig-data-dangerous see also |
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* dcook |
goes back to his All India Radio |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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eythian |
hi magnuse |
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magnuse |
kia ora eythian |
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magnuse |
eythian: i seem to remember you talking about some saas for storing/analyzing logs a while back - do you use one you can recomend? (or that you don't hate, at least...) |
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eythian |
we use an internal one here, that we're trying to turn into an aaS (so to speak.) |
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magnuse |
nice |
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magnuse |
bbiab |
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reiveune |
hello |
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marcelr |
hi #koha |
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indradg |
hi #koha |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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huginn` |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on May 18, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). |
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magnuse |
@wunder marseille |
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huginn` |
magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 18.0°C (9:00 AM CEST on May 18, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
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magnuse |
tjänare Viktor |
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Viktor |
Hei magnuse! |
| 07:27 |
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magnuse |
it would be awesome if someone could adopt bug 8962 |
| 07:27 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8962 enhancement, P4, ---, gmcharlt, Patch doesn't apply , Create a new index for OPAC simple search, more specific than "any" |
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indradg |
@wunder kolkata |
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huginn` |
indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 36.0°C (12:50 PM IST on May 18, 2015). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 26.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Falling). |
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magnuse |
indradg: you win :-) |
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indradg |
hehe magnuse |
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indradg |
it is actually quite bearable as long as the humidity does not cross 65% |
| 07:42 |
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cait |
morning #koha |
| 07:42 |
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indradg |
hi cait |
| 07:45 |
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magnuse |
kia ora cait |
| 07:46 |
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Viktor |
No string freeze for 3.20 yet? can't find any such mails at least. |
| 07:46 |
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magnuse |
i have not seen it etiher |
| 07:46 |
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Viktor |
ok. Thanks! |
| 07:47 |
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indradg |
magnuse: 8962 looks like an interesting bug |
| 07:48 |
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cait |
Viktor_fika_meetings_and_stuff: nothing official yet i am afraid |
| 07:48 |
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magnuse |
yeah, it would be really good if the default search was a little narrower then "everything" |
| 07:49 |
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magnuse |
indradg: i think mathieu has done a lot of the work needed, it should just be a question of taking out any grs-1 remnants |
| 07:49 |
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magnuse |
i *think* |
| 07:50 |
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indradg |
to sync with DOM shift in search? |
| 07:52 |
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magnuse |
yup |
| 07:53 |
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magnuse |
i am not sure if mathieu did both dom and grs-1 |
| 07:53 |
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magnuse |
if he did both, it should mostly be a question of taking out the grs-1 stuff, i think |
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magnuse |
wow, "MARC modification templates" is really hard to translate... cait: do you know what you have called it in german? |
| 08:21 |
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cait |
i am not too happy with my translation either |
| 08:21 |
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cait |
Templates für MARC-Modifikationen I think |
| 08:21 |
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cait |
you could also say Vorlagen... but we kept templates in the label editor too |
| 08:24 |
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magnuse |
i think i'll go with "MARC endringsmaler" endring = change, maler = templates |
| 08:27 |
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indradg |
dcook: around? |
| 08:38 |
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magnuse |
bit too late, i think |
| 08:42 |
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cait |
magnuse: keep in mind there is a batch tool for editing records coming with 3.20 |
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magnuse |
cait: thanks! |
| 09:04 |
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marcelr |
anyone willing to sign off on bug 14213? it would be nice to still fix this issue in 3.20; small patch |
| 09:04 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14213 minor, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Cataloging plugin in cloned field does not work |
| 09:13 |
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cait |
i can't right now, but maybe can take a look tonight -would be better if signed off then |
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* andreashm |
waves |
| 09:26 |
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cait |
bug 14172 would be great to have on my side - xarragon started testing, but it#s not yet signed off |
| 09:26 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14172 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Acq: Orders without items missing from 'Spent' list |
| 09:29 |
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Joubu |
hello #koha |
| 09:30 |
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marcelr |
hi Joubu |
| 09:30 |
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Joubu |
indradg: feel free to amend my test plans, but note that "6/ run koha qa tests tool" should not be part of the test plan |
| 09:31 |
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indradg |
Joubu: noted! newbie question: I've seen a few test plans include that... what's the thumb rule here... if any? |
| 09:31 |
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cait |
hi Joubu |
| 09:32 |
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Joubu |
Hi cait, marcelr :) |
| 09:32 |
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Joubu |
indradg: If the qa tests tool fails, the QAer will catch that |
| 09:33 |
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Joubu |
if the tester didn't find any issue testing the patch, the "signed off" status could be set |
| 09:33 |
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indradg |
Joubu: ok! thank you... i appreciate the explanation :) |
| 09:33 |
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Joubu |
the script can fail on tab chars or wrong number of tests, etc. |
| 09:34 |
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Joubu |
it does not worth to fail to SO test |
| 09:34 |
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indradg |
ok!!! I did run into a tab char fail case recently! |
| 09:35 |
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indradg |
cait: thanks for the fishsoup update tip. That problem with unicodeencode went away :_ |
| 09:35 |
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indradg |
:-) |
| 09:44 |
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cait |
:) |
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| 10:02 |
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indradg |
marcelr: I was looking at bug 14213, I don't see example.pl in the plugins dropdown... (i've not yet added the patch). What am I missng? |
| 10:02 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14213 minor, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Cataloging plugin in cloned field does not work |
| 10:02 |
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marcelr |
hi indradg |
| 10:03 |
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indradg |
hi |
| 10:03 |
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marcelr |
this plugin EXAMPLE.pl (uppercase) is in the plugin directory, but it is not listed |
| 10:03 |
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indradg |
yes...i can locate EXAMPLE.pl |
| 10:03 |
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marcelr |
that is the reason i did it via sql in the test plan |
| 10:03 |
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marcelr |
is the most easy |
| 10:04 |
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marcelr |
you can also comment one line in the framework admin script |
| 10:04 |
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marcelr |
indradg: or you can copy the file to another name |
| 10:05 |
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indradg |
ok! |
| 10:05 |
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marcelr |
in that case it will appear in the list |
| 10:05 |
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indradg |
thanks... let me do that |
| 10:05 |
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marcelr |
should have added that option perhaps in the commit msg |
| 10:46 |
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indradg |
Joubu: around? |
| 10:47 |
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indradg |
I agree with your comment on bug 14206, but wasn't sure if it would be OK to mess with an 'in-use' Letters.pm |
| 10:47 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14206 normal, P3, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , notice using only the 'print' template can't be deleted |
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| 11:02 |
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Joubu |
indradg: As you might know, the problem is the DB structure. We should have 2 tables to manage letters |
| 11:03 |
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Joubu |
indradg: the script misc/cronjobs/overdue_notices.pl has certainly also an issue |
| 11:03 |
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indradg |
ok! |
| 11:04 |
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Joubu |
and all calls to GetPreparedLetter when mtt is not defined (but should not exist) |
| 11:04 |
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Joubu |
indradg: it could be good to know if overdue_notices.pl is impacted too |
| 11:04 |
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indradg |
noted Joubu |
| 11:06 |
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xarragon |
A question regarding sysprefs; there seems to be a bit of overlap for "type" and "class". Also, the wiki says "type" is deprecated as a DB column, but it seems to exist on my git install. |
| 11:09 |
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| 11:09 |
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cait |
xarragon: there has been a little shift with a rewrite of the syspref editor some versions ago |
| 11:10 |
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cait |
hm let's see |
| 11:11 |
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cait |
xarragon: you have a class db column? or only type? |
| 11:12 |
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xarragon |
Type only |
| 11:12 |
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cait |
xarragon: i'd say the table is probably not as useful as before, but since we still allow to add your own local use system preferences it's not unused |
| 11:12 |
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cait |
if you create on from the gui it's only stored in the db, so the type has sense |
| 11:12 |
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cait |
if it's a standard pref most of the information is now stored in the yaml file |
| 11:13 |
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xarragon |
Yeah, I created one of those from the Wiki instructions. Was a little confused with the 'class' keyword in the yaml file, because the exiting stuff seems to omit in many cases; just using 'choices' directly. |
| 11:14 |
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xarragon |
If there is anything that needs chaning on the Wiki page I can update it. |
| 11:14 |
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xarragon |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]emprefences_table |
| 11:14 |
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cait |
hm not sure, i know there are some classes - like for the language picker and the new multiselect thing |
| 11:14 |
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cait |
or for the html preferences |
| 11:15 |
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xarragon |
Ah, I see. That would explain why some older stuff is using a different, simpler syntax. |
| 11:15 |
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marcelr |
indradg: did you succeed with the example file? |
| 11:15 |
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indradg |
marcelr: yes! |
| 11:15 |
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marcelr |
good to hear; need further info? |
| 11:15 |
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indradg |
pushed in "UPDATE `marc_subfield_structure` SET value_builder = 'EXAMPLE.pl' WHERE frameworkcode = 'B213' AND ( (tagfield = '007' AND tagsubfield = '@') OR ( tagfield LIKE '246' AND tagsubfield = 'h') OR (tagfield = '260' AND tagsubfield = 'c'))" |
| 11:16 |
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marcelr |
ok |
| 11:18 |
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xarragon |
There seems to be two 'update-sql' locations, one with 'atomic' as part of the path name. Is the latter for development stuff, and the former for official updates? |
| 11:19 |
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xarragon |
s/, and/ and/g for gram. correctness. |
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| 11:23 |
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xarragon |
http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13068 <- Seems to suggest some workaround for patch testing w. DB updates |
| 11:23 |
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huginn |
Bug 13068: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , New feature for DB update and sandbox |
| 11:23 |
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ashimema |
it's the old and the new method.. |
| 11:23 |
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cait |
and the new method is still very new :) |
| 11:24 |
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cait |
hi ashimema |
| 11:24 |
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ashimema |
updatedatabase does version x -> version y -> version x in one long file.. and thus causes annoying merge conflicts all the time.. |
| 11:24 |
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ashimema |
atomic does feature_x in a sigle update file and is run via updatedatabase.. |
| 11:25 |
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ashimema |
order is 'less' important.. though I beleive atomic updates can also be ordered via names? |
| 11:25 |
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ashimema |
as ciat says.. atomic is very new |
| 11:25 |
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ashimema |
but very highly encouraged for adoption |
| 11:25 |
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cait |
ashimema: atomic goes into updatedatabase once pushed |
| 11:25 |
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cait |
so there won't be a lot of files |
| 11:26 |
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ashimema |
really.. |
| 11:26 |
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ashimema |
I didn't realise that was the workflow.. |
| 11:26 |
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ashimema |
I like that less now.. |
| 11:26 |
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cait |
it's a simplified version- no worrying about the sequence |
| 11:27 |
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ashimema |
I thought it was much more akin to DBIx::Class::Deployment |
| 11:27 |
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cait |
hm i thin right now it was mostly a fix for conflicts/sandboxes |
| 11:27 |
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ashimema |
mm.. ok |
| 11:28 |
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ashimema |
but I'm sure updatedatabase calls a loop on files in atomic updates.. |
| 11:28 |
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ashimema |
so don't see the point in adding those updates to udpatedatabase during push.. |
| 11:28 |
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ashimema |
but I'm not going to worry myself aobut it.. |
| 11:28 |
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ashimema |
just seems more work for the rm |
| 11:28 |
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cait |
i think the problem is the sequence |
| 11:28 |
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cait |
right now you only have 1 file there |
| 11:28 |
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cait |
if you have multiple, the question woudl be how to order them |
| 11:29 |
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cait |
it loops, so you can install it for testing |
| 11:29 |
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ashimema |
DeploymentHandler handles that with numeric filenames |
| 11:29 |
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cait |
it ugess it would, but then still someone needs to assign the numbers - i think for a first step it's ok |
| 11:29 |
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ashimema |
/perl/001_named_update.pl |
| 11:29 |
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ashimema |
and /sql/001_named_update.sql |
| 11:29 |
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ashimema |
for example |
| 11:29 |
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cait |
marcelr++ thx for the sign off |
| 11:29 |
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marcelr |
np |
| 11:30 |
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cait |
now i need to find a qa volunteer... |
| 11:30 |
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marcelr |
Joubu loves acq patches.. |
| 11:30 |
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ashimema |
cait.. the original dev of the feature they're working on would ;) |
| 11:30 |
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ashimema |
you keep db features self contained.. |
| 11:31 |
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cait |
marcelr: i think the problem is that items are not mandatory |
| 11:31 |
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ashimema |
anywho |
| 11:31 |
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Joubu |
marcelr: hum, are you sure about that? :) |
| 11:31 |
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cait |
marcelr: we only join with items for the itemtype... which makes not a lot of sense as it just grabs the first one |
| 11:31 |
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marcelr |
:) |
| 11:31 |
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cait |
but i didn't really want to change that |
| 11:31 |
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marcelr |
it works |
| 11:31 |
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wahanui |
But now the Universe has disappeared |
| 11:31 |
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cait |
just tried to stop it from exploding when there is no item |
| 11:32 |
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cait |
i hope, but glad to see it tested, it's quite a problem in a few of our libraries using serials and acq |
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cait |
Joubu: maybe i could persuade you to take a look at bug 14172? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14172 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Signed Off , Acq: Orders without items missing from 'Spent' list |
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Joubu |
cait: with cookies? |
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Joubu |
erk sql in pl -- |
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marcelr |
it was already there.. |
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Joubu |
cait: Did you check the ordered page? |
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cait |
the ordered page shows no problem in our installations |
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cait |
the amount there appears to be correct |
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cait |
Joubu: possible that there is also an issue, but for now i only tried to fix this one :) |
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cait |
it's a few thousand in some of the libraries in difference by now, so it would be cool to get that fixed |
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* cait |
sends Joubu cookies :) |
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magnuse |
fika all day long! |
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magnuse |
there is no way in koha to associate a note with an issue, right? like saying "the patron claims to have returned this book", or "we have sent a manual reminder about this loan" |
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cait |
hmm |
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cait |
no i thik you'd write it in the item right now |
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cait |
or as a message ont he patron account |
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cait |
magnuse: kyle has developeda feature to leave notes on issues - that could be useful in the future |
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cait |
hm notes on items sorry |
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Viktor |
That does sound useful cait magnuse |
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cait |
thx Joubu++ and marcelr++ |
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magnuse |
cait: but if you put it in 952$x - internal note - then you'd have to delete the note when the item is returned... |
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cait |
magnuse: true - or 3 materials note |
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cait |
also... someone could see those fields from outside |
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cait |
i think i'd just give them a 'flag' and write details into the messages in the patron account |
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xarragon |
Hm, is there a naming convention for SystemPreferences? Seems like a lot of them in acquisitions are prefixed with 'Acq', log options are suffixed with 'Log'.. |
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cait |
not a gneral convention |
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cait |
but i think people look at what's already there |
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cait |
and i think maybe camelcase is kind of standard |
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magnuse |
there are some guidelines one the wiki, i think |
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magnuse |
hm, can't seem to find it |
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Viktor |
Would version handling of records make sense? |
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Viktor |
We are working on syncing records from the national library, and also get changes in. |
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Viktor |
I'd like to see some filter system where some fiels are protected, or only some external sources can update these. |
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Viktor |
And also that changes made are tracked so you can view the diff history of records and rewind it. |
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Viktor |
(or if it's already there and I just did'nt notice :) |
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cait |
Viktor: I'd like hat - protected fields in koha |
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cait |
it would make things a lot esier for us here as we work with a union catalog too |
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Viktor |
cait: Great. Then I could perhaps add that as one of the larger things for the team here that we can start research a bit. |
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cait |
what we'd need is protecting so things can be edited locally but are not overwritten by the import |
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cait |
like adding local subject |
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cait |
s |
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cait |
Viktor: there was once a patch on a bug report in bugzilla that looked promising |
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cait |
Do you want me to look for it? |
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cait |
but i didn't look at the code, only the description and it seems abandoned |
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Viktor |
If there is some kind of code that might be a good start. |
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Viktor |
cait: I'd be interested in looking at that so if you know how to search for it that would be great :) |
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cait |
bug 11780 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11780 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Need to prevent specific fields from being overwritten with z39.50 import |
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cait |
but shoudl also cover staged import i think |
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Viktor |
Great! Thanks cait. |
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magnuse |
cait++ |
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Viktor |
I think we would want some kind of general purpose protection of reords so you could also use it the other way around and protect from local changes and let the union catalogue overwrite. |
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Viktor |
And indeed cait++ :) That was both quick and helpful |
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magnuse |
weird, now that i think about it, notes on issues seems like such a nice thing to have |
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indradg |
Joubu: can you please have a look at the new patch for bug 14206? i think it does what you mentioned in your comment |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14206 normal, P3, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , notice using only the 'print' template can't be deleted |
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cait |
Viktor: as we woudl be really interested in something liket hat... i am not sure i deserve that much karma ) |
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cait |
morning tcohen |
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* magnuse |
thinks cait deserves all the karma she can get |
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magnuse |
@karma |
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huginn |
magnuse: Highest karma: "cait" (226), "Joubu" (180), and "tcohen" (169). Lowest karma: "ie" (-21), "-" (-13), and "^" (-12). You (magnuse) are ranked 11 out of 409. |
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indradg |
@karma |
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indradg: Highest karma: "cait" (226), "Joubu" (180), and "tcohen" (169). Lowest karma: "ie" (-21), "-" (-13), and "^" (-12). You (indradg) are ranked 45 out of 409. |
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indradg |
what is karma |
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indradg |
what is karma? |
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andreashm |
@karma |
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huginn |
andreashm: Highest karma: "cait" (226), "Joubu" (180), and "tcohen" (169). Lowest karma: "ie" (-21), "-" (-13), and "^" (-12). You (andreashm) are ranked 49 out of 409. |
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andreashm |
ha! 49. |
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indradg |
marcelr: bug 14213 signed off |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14213 minor, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Signed Off , Cataloging plugin in cloned field does not work |
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marcelr |
indradg++ # thx for so |
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tcohen |
morning |
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marcelr |
hi tcohen |
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tcohen |
hi marcelr |
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Viktor |
@karma |
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huginn |
Viktor: Highest karma: "cait" (226), "Joubu" (180), and "tcohen" (169). Lowest karma: "ie" (-21), "-" (-13), and "^" (-12). You (Viktor) are ranked 23 out of 409. |
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tcohen |
ie-- |
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Viktor |
Joining the fun :) |
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Viktor |
Is "ranked" highest karma of those listed in the tracking? In that case I think others deserve additional karma. |
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indradg |
can someone of the QA team please take a look at bug 14135 and pass it if it clears :_ |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14135 minor, P5 - low, ---, indradg, Signed Off , Local Use syspref addition form missing variable type 'Free' |
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indradg |
also bug 14070 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14070 minor, P5 - low, ---, indradg, Signed Off , Notice not saved when mandatory fields are not filled |
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indradg |
:-) |
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tcohen |
hi Joubu |
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indradg |
hi tcohen |
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Joubu |
indradg: it looks better, but you don't provide tests. |
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Joubu |
indradg: it would be great to have steps to test overdue_notices.pl too |
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Joubu |
hi tcohen |
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indradg |
Joubu: i dont think you mean the test plan do you? |
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Joubu |
I meant the regression tests |
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indradg |
Joubu: ok... how do I do that? |
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indradg |
i mean... where do I start? |
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* indradg |
facepalms... of course! I touched a .pm file... need to write regression tests! |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8480: (RM followup) DBIx updates <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2b98ad4b397aabdaa> / Bug 8480: DBRev 3.19.00.042 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1904501a9fa00d5f7> / Bug 8480: Add constraint on auth_subfield_structure.authtypecode <http://git.koha-community.org/[…];h=bf23224c999d6a |
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barton |
morning all... a quick reminder: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars has a list of IRC regulars -- if you haven't added yourself to the list, this would be a good time to do so :-). |
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indradg |
yay! string freeze tcohen++ |
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tcohen |
indradg: i've just added the bn subtitles, thanks |
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indradg |
:) thanks tcohen |
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tcohen |
please, share the original version of the video |
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tcohen |
the one on the Koha youtube channel |
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reiveune |
bye |
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New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12109: Fix tab on the auth subfield configuration page <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5dc606d7ed5caaccd> / Bug 14152: Re-check required dependencies during upgrade process <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1f21c92a6e317775b> / Bug 8399: Display tab number on the mandatory field alert (authority) <http://git.koh |
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nengard |
Can anyone define 'discharge' for me as it relates to this new feature: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8007 |
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huginn |
Bug 8007: new feature, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Pushed to Master , Discharge management |
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indradg |
nengard_afk: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ug.cgi?id=8007#c3 |
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huginn |
Bug 8007: new feature, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Pushed to Master , Discharge management |
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indradg |
nengard_afk: the same thing is applicable in India... it is called a) library clearance certificate, one usually needs to get hold of that letter, before receiving final degree / transcript etc from the school |
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nengard |
thanks indradg |
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nengard |
that makes sense |
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indradg |
it basically means, no issues, no dues, no holds, no fines... without which the library security deposit (also called caution money) wont be refunded to the student |
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indradg |
the deposit is non-interest earning for the patron, so as long as students don't get their clearance, the school can sit back and enjoy earning a tidy about of interest on these deposits :P |
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indradg |
s/about/amount |
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nengard |
We have something similar here - but it's less a letter and more just the library telling the registrar that the student can't graduate because they owe money |
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nengard |
no deposit though ... |
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indradg |
ok |
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nengard |
I have a meeting soon, but i'll put this in the manual after that and then we can tweak if I missed anything :) |
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indradg |
cool! |
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indradg |
i'll keep an eye on kohadocs git summaries |
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tcohen |
nengard_away: doubts about the discharge functionality? |
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tcohen |
just let me know |
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nengard_away |
nope, just wanted to know how to explain it for the manual |
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nengard_away |
thanks |
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cait |
hi all |
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magnuse |
hi cait |
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cait |
hi magnuse :) |
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magnuse |
wassup!?! |
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JesseM |
Hi cait and magnuse |
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cait |
hi jessy |
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magnuse |
hiya JesseM |
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cait |
tcohen: around? |
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cait |
can someone help me testing something sip related? |
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cait |
i hae changed the koha conf entering my login data - but the telnet closes after logging in: Connection closed by foreign host. |
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cait |
noone? :( |
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rangi |
i need bug 14151 qaed before 3.18.7 release please |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14151 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , SIP2 Checkouts file in Koha 3.18 |
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cait |
i am trying |
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cait |
but i am failing |
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rangi |
ah ok |
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cait |
i need some help with telnet again :( |
| 21:03 |
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rangi |
maybe email the koha-devel list |
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cait |
Trying 127.0.0.1... |
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cait |
Connected to localhost. |
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cait |
Escape character is '^]'. |
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cait |
login: admin |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, cait. |
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cait |
password: admin |
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cait |
Connection closed by foreign host. |
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cait |
i know the password is lame - but only local :) |
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rangi |
i never test via telnet |
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cait |
how do you test? |
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cait |
the only times i got this working i did it this way, but my instructions seem to have a bug |
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rangi |
misc/sip_cli_emulator.pl |
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rangi |
if you run it it will give you the options it takes |
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cait |
i will try that |
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cait |
hm nothing after SEND:... |
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cait |
no answer |
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cait |
it doesn't like my barcodes containing () |
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rangi |
hmm yeah |
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rangi |
the patch is a tiny change |
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rangi |
http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]39273&action=diff |
| 21:11 |
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rangi |
you should get no response back without the patch |
| 21:11 |
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rangi |
and a response after the patch |
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cait |
this is with th patch |
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cait |
i know the patch is tiny, but i'd like to know why this stopped working :( |
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rangi |
does it work on master? |
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rangi |
or 3.16.x? |
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cait |
hm testing some more things |
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cait |
Use of uninitialized value $data in concatenation (.) or string at ./sip_cli_emulator.pl line 269, <GEN0> chunk 1. |
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cait |
trying checkout now. but still looks broken |
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cait |
hm ok |
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cait |
it works for me WITHOUT the patch |
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cait |
but not WITH it |
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cait |
and now it works with it too... i am getting confused. |
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rangi |
you have to stop and restart the sip server |
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rangi |
you are doing that eh? |
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cait |
i am... trying to repeat the steps to make sur enow |
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pastebot |
"Mammoth" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "test" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/110 |
| 21:19 |
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cait |
switched to master branch, restarted sip server... works |
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cait |
without the patch |
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rangi |
yes |
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rangi |
master will work |
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rangi |
the patch is only for 3.18.x |
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cait |
argh. |
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cait |
i will try again |
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rangi |
its been fixed in a slightly different way for master |
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rangi |
this is just a 3.18.x fix (maybe 3.16 too) |
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rangi |
but ill push it to 3.18.x when it passes qa |
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cait |
... in 3.18. x the script can't do chcokuts and checkins? |
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* cait |
is getting rather frustrated |
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rangi |
you should be able to just grab the script from master |
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rangi |
im 99% sure thats what i did |
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cait |
i tried |
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cait |
it complints about a missingmodule |
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cait |
Can't locate Sip/Constants.pm in @INC |
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rangi |
trying to remember how i tested it |
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mtj |
hey #koha |
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rangi |
hey mtj |
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cait |
hi mtj |
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rangi |
you might need this patch for 3.16.x too |
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mtj |
i have done some sip testing using telnet, in RAW mode |
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cait |
i used that in th past, but ran into trouble today with the connection closing after login |
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cait |
now trying to test with the new script... but also running against walls |
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cait |
not very lucky tonight |
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mtj |
$ telnet koha.local 9999 |
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mtj |
9300CNadmin|COpassword5Y |
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mtj |
941 |
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mtj |
..using a 93 command, for login |
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rangi |
yeah thats how you do it with RAW |
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rangi |
maybe try something like that cait ? |
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cait |
i am in doubt about 999 |
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cait |
without changing my xml file as well |
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rangi |
no |
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cait |
mtj: are you testing on your local machine? |
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rangi |
that can be your port |
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rangi |
whatever you want |
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rangi |
its just that you dont send |
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cait |
doesn't the port have to match what is in the sip xml file? |
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rangi |
yes |
| 21:30 |
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rangi |
its not that bit |
| 21:30 |
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rangi |
its the 9300CNadmin etc |
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cait |
i don't get there |
| 21:31 |
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rangi |
instead of doing login: |
| 21:31 |
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cait |
it asks for login |
| 21:31 |
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cait |
i am not doing that |
| 21:31 |
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cait |
login: |
| 21:31 |
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cait |
passwort |
| 21:31 |
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rangi |
set your SIP to raw |
| 21:31 |
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rangi |
not telnet |
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mtj |
yep ^ |
| 21:31 |
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cait |
but i still use the telnet command? |
| 21:31 |
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rangi |
yep |
| 21:31 |
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mtj |
yes |
| 21:31 |
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cait |
i tried both - 8023 and 6001 listed |
| 21:32 |
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cait |
where is the koha.local coming from? |
| 21:32 |
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mtj |
anywhere :) |
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cait |
it's 23:30 here - anywhere is not helping me right now |
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rangi |
that could be 127.0.0.1 |
| 21:33 |
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rangi |
its the hostname of the server you want to connect to |
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cait |
thx |
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mtj |
sorry, a choose a bad name |
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mtj |
i |
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mtj |
i should mention there is a little checksum gotcha with telent/raw method |
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cait |
i think am making progress |
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cait |
testing with the patch now |
| 21:38 |
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cait |
gah. |
| 21:38 |
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cait |
i can't checkout with and without... i get 24 as an answer |
| 21:39 |
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magnuse |
...and it should be 42? |
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cait |
hm 24 is a patron status response |
| 21:40 |
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rangi |
maybe the borrower is not allowed to check it out |
| 21:40 |
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rangi |
you should get no response without the patch |
| 21:40 |
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rangi |
and a response with the patch (doesnt matter too much what it is, just a response) |
| 21:41 |
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cait |
i get the same with and without |
| 21:44 |
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cait |
rangi: i am having no luck... now i don't get even 24 |
| 21:45 |
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rangi |
maybe just email koha-devel ask someone else to test |
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mtj |
___–_====--––≠=[][][]˜=+ |
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mammy |
Is this the right place to ask questions about koha? |
| 21:53 |
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cait |
yes |
| 21:55 |
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mammy |
Today our receipt printers stopped printing the due dates on circulation slips. |
| 21:56 |
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mammy |
How should I proceed to fix that? |
| 21:58 |
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mtj |
yeah, a log of the testing of that sip bug would be awesome |
| 21:58 |
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amyk |
mammy http://bywatersolutions.com/20[…]05/18/koha-slips/ |
| 21:58 |
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amyk |
there are directions there for a work-around, it is a bug |
| 22:00 |
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mtj |
..for 3.18.6 |
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mammy |
ok, thank you |
| 22:02 |
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mtj |
mammy: you need to investigate if anything changed |
| 22:03 |
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cait |
hm would have been good to have more information about the bug |
| 22:04 |
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amyk |
the bug is 14150 |
| 22:04 |
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amyk |
http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14150 |
| 22:04 |
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huginn |
Bug 14150: normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Field issues.date_due does not display in ISSUESLIP or ISSUEQSLIP |
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rangi |
i just switched it to normal |
| 22:07 |
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mtj |
ta |
| 22:08 |
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cait |
hm filed beginning of march - but no fix |
| 22:08 |
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mtj |
hey cait, i guess your test for the sip bug was a legitimate fail |
| 22:08 |
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rangi |
prolly cos it was set to enhancement |
| 22:08 |
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cait |
hm? you can't make it work either? |
| 22:08 |
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rangi |
doesnt show up lists of bugs |
| 22:09 |
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mtj |
..well, the report says without the patch, no response is given - but you *got* a reponse without the patch |
| 22:10 |
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cait |
on master tho |
| 22:10 |
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cait |
on 3.18 i haven't managed a successful checkout with or without yet |
| 22:10 |
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mtj |
aah master, good point |
| 22:18 |
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cait |
mtj: could you run a test on 3.18.x? |
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eythian |
hi |
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cait |
hi eythian |
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mtj |
cait: yep, will do |
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