IRC log for #koha, 2015-04-20

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00:05 eythian hoi papa
00:06 eythian or should I say, здраво Срдјан
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01:05 rangi
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01:10 dcook rangi: That's cool
01:10 dcook I think I've heard of that Chris Cormack guy
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02:58 dcook Bashisms... sneaking into your scripts when you ain't lookin'...
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05:19 cait @later tell khall could you take a look at bug 7981? It's holds... :)
05:19 huginn` cait: The operation succeeded.
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05:37 cait morning mveron :)
05:38 * dcook waves to the Europeans ;)
05:38 dcook Well, to BobB too.
05:38 dcook :)
05:38 BobB hi dcook :)
05:38 cait hi dcook and BobB :)
05:39 BobB hi cait, it must be early for you?
05:39 cait not too early 7:40
05:39 * dcook will never get used to daylight savings
05:39 cait maybe a little too early to configure acq tho
05:40 BobB daylight saving has started for you and finished for us
05:40 BobB we are two hours closer to you, cait  :)
05:40 cait yep :)
05:40 dcook \o/
05:40 dcook It's nice having more cait during the day ^_^
05:40 cait oh thx :)
05:40 BobB :)
05:41 cait it's nice to see more of you 2 too :)
05:41 BobB aw shucks
05:41 mveron Good morning or daytime everybody :-)
05:41 * mveron waves to the world :-)
05:41 BobB its mid-afternoon here mveron, but we say good morning to you
05:42 mveron 7:42 am here :-) - Good daytime...
05:42 mveron @wunder Allschwil
05:42 huginn` mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 3.0°C (7:30 AM CEST on April 20, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
05:43 BobB its awful here today, a low sitting off the coast:
05:43 BobB @wunder Sydney, Australia
05:43 huginn` BobB: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 17.0°C (3:30 PM AEST on April 20, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
05:44 mveron Blue sky here... Springtime...
05:45 BobB enjoy!
05:46 mveron thx :-)
05:47 cait bug 14018 - easy one
05:47 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14018 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Ordering from suggestion shows 'copy. year:2014'
05:54 mveron cait: I will take a look.
05:56 cait not an urgent one - just a small display error
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06:19 fridolin hie
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06:40 reiveune hello
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06:49 alex_a bonjour
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06:56 dcook Oh yay! I love that moment when you're actually able to reproduce a book
06:56 dcook Of course, I love it less when it seems to only happen in IE :p
06:56 dcook Also love it less when it's 4 minutes before I'm supposed to go home for the day!
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07:02 sophie_m hello #koha
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07:10 fridolin looks like I can not fetch from
07:10 dcook Hmm, I fetched from it recently
07:11 dcook And I'm looking at the web ui atm
07:11 dcook Just tried fetching again, but there was nothing to fetch, so perhaps not the best test..
07:14 dcook Joubu++
07:14 dcook[…]34a68d8a7299354a9 :D
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07:15 gaetan_B hello
07:15 dcook salut gaetan_B
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07:23 cait back :)
07:23 Joubu hello #koha
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07:27 dcook wb, hello, etc
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07:38 drojf morning #koha
07:38 cait mornign drojf
07:39 drojf hi cait
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07:59 andreashm morning
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08:02 marcelr hi #koha
08:04 cait hi andreashm and marcelr
08:05 marcelr :)
08:05 cait friday went so well... can we announce the rest of the week to be qa sprint? ;)
08:05 cait well until deadline on thursday
08:10 andreashm cait: haha, why not?
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08:12 cait marcelr++
08:13 marcelr qa sprints only work when they are not too often :)
08:13 cait you are probably right :)
08:13 cait but the deadline is still upon us
08:14 marcelr there was no mail about the deadline or did i miss it?
08:17 cait marcelr: it was during the irc meeting
08:17 cait and it looks like we forgot to vote :(
08:17 cait (for the roles)
08:17 cait the deadline for the freeze is thursday morning argentina time
08:17 cait what's passed qa by then, can make it in
08:17 marcelr a mail would not be a bad idea
08:18 cait that's true
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08:56 nlegrand hiya #koha
08:56 cait hi nlegrand
08:56 nlegrand o/ cait
09:03 cait Joubu++ thx - bug 14016 needs a sign off please
09:03 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14016 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Due dates in OPAC show 0:00 when it should be 23:59
09:05 Joubu cait: please continue to cc me when it's date formats related :)
09:05 cait .)
09:05 cait :)
09:06 Joubu as I try to explain in the comment, there may be other problems somewhere else.
09:06 cait i will keep my eyes open
09:07 cait Joubu: you know our deadline is on thursday morning?
09:07 Joubu The deadline?
09:07 wahanui i heard The deadline was next month, right?
09:07 cait everything passed qa by then can make it into 3.20
09:07 Joubu cait: it's next month
09:07 cait can...
09:08 Joubu ha yes, I know that
09:11 cait hm i have another bad news
09:11 cait the subscription detail page is somehow problematic
09:11 cait we have a library with lots of subscriptions and they nearly brought the server down with rapidly editing a lot of serials
09:13 cait i will file a bug report a little later :(
09:18 kivilahtio_ Does anybody have any idea why issues table's primary key would reset? but the old_issues primary key won't?
09:19 cait kivilahtio_: where are you looking? issues has no pk currently
09:19 cait but we have patches waiting for that
09:19 kivilahtio_ Does MySQL|MariaDB automatically reset the primary key, or collate the primary key gaps somehow?
09:21 kivilahtio_ cait: Bug 13790
09:21 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13790 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Add unique id issue_id to issues and old_issues tables
09:22 cait i thin old_issues is no auto_increment - we copy data there from another table, it is not supposed to created pk
09:22 kivilahtio_ cait: hmm
09:23 kivilahtio_ cait: I think i solved my problem :) The primary keys don't match from old_issues to issues, since there have been a differnet amount of them since inception and the pk for old_issues is much higher than for issues
09:23 kivilahtio_ lets see if kyle fixed that issues
09:23 cait sounds like a good idea- even if i can't quite follow :)
09:24 cait the numbering should start in old_issues and continue in issues after using kyle's patches... and of course new issues should get new numbers... and then be moved keeping their id
09:25 kivilahtio_ cait: yes :) Now I wonder why my log analyzers didnät pick the errors sooner...
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09:52 Joubu rangi: Hi! Are you upgrading bz?
10:31 khall cait: I approve of 7981, I signed off on it previously
10:33 cait bug 7981
10:33 huginn` Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7981 normal, P5 - low, ---, benjamin.rokseth, Signed Off , Remove HomeOrHoldingBranchReturn syspref
10:34 cait khall: missed that in the first patch - could you take a look at the follow ups?
10:34 khall sure!
10:36 cait khall: you know about thursday morning?
10:37 khall no i dont', what's up?
10:37 cait it's our qa freeze date for 3.20
10:37 khall Ah, good to know!
10:37 cait i will ask tcohen to send a mail - he set  it during the irc meeting
10:38 cait[…]88594847197437952
10:40 Joubu khall: Hi! I don't understand why you switch the status of bug 13030 back to SO. Bug 13851 is still in the NSO queue (and some concernd I raised not addressed)
10:40 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13030 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Show waiting hold expiration date for waiting holds on
10:40 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13851 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Replace waiting holds logic in with Koha Objects
10:41 khall Joubu: I don't see the point of using the blocked status. There are still other depend patches that can be tested and signed off, and if a bug is marked blocked fewer people will do so
10:42 khall Joubu: I'll look at your concerns
10:42 cait hm but the blocked patch won't show up for the testers as it came from signed off i think - so mabe not so problematic?
10:43 khall cait: I'm not sure I understand what you mean
10:43 cait maybe i am misunderstanding anyway :)
10:44 khall cait: I posted a followup to 7981
10:44 Joubu khall: it's just to hide the "not ready to qa yet" from the SO list :)
10:45 khall Joubu: that makes sense. If this patch were the last in a series I'd have no problem with the blocked status, but it's in the middle of a series, so the blocked status keeps people from testing the reset of the series
10:45 cait ah
10:45 cait i see what you mean now
10:45 cait khall: what should we do about 7981?
10:46 khall cait: what do you mean? ( Maybe I need coffee ; )
10:47 cait how do we get it through qa :)
10:47 Joubu khall: ok if you prefer, I don't really care
10:49 cait we got a library with subscriptions that make the server timeout after updating from 3.12 to 3.18 *eek+
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11:06 khall cait: I can't qa 7981 because I'm the original signer
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11:20 * magnuse waves from emtacl15 - sitting next to paul_p
11:21 * cait waves back
11:21 cait khall: could you check and sign your follow ups then?
11:22 cait i think most important is we get a lot of eyes on those...  it seems still growing
11:22 khall cait: that I can do!
11:23 cait marcelr: coudl you take another look at the issue_id patch maybe? it seems there might be a discrepancy between database update and kohastructure and i can't create a branch right now
11:24 marcelr will take a quick look
11:26 marcelr cait: you are right, changed status so kyle khall can adjust..
11:27 cait kivilahtio_ spotted it
11:27 kivilahtio_ spotted what? my comment :)
11:27 marcelr kivilahtio_++
11:27 cait the auto_increment on old_issues
11:28 cait i had looked at the kohastructure one earlier
11:28 kivilahtio_ cait: OK, I just tested that old_issues doesn't need AUTO_INCREMENT, because the issue_id is given from the issues-table
11:28 kivilahtio_ cait: refactoring my own code to work with issue_id instead of issueid :)
11:29 kivilahtio_ how boring is that
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11:44 khall marcelr: what's that bug number again?
11:44 marcelr 13790
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11:47 khall thanks marcelr!
11:48 khall cait: so'd the followups on 7981
11:48 cait ok... so now we need to find someone to qa i guess :)
11:48 cait and jonathan and khall are out
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12:03 shakogele hello everybody I m using Koha 3.18 , I want to add Georgian Language to OPAC can anybody help me?
12:04 shakogele in anybody here?
12:04 shakogele :)
12:06 shakogele ==ChanServ
12:07 * shakogele slaps alohalog` around a bit with a large fishbot
12:09 kivilahtio_ shakogele:
12:09 kivilahtio_[…]ANET_staff_client
12:09 kivilahtio_ shakogele:[…]/Translating_Koha
12:09 kivilahtio_ shakogele:
12:09 kivilahtio_ shakogele: Welcome to #koha! :)
12:10 shakogele I'll try to read thanks
12:17 kivilahtio_ have fun and take care!
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12:22 khall marcelr: followup for bug 13790 posted!
12:22 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13790 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Add unique id issue_id to issues and old_issues tables
12:27 marcelr khall: ok
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12:30 shakogele excuze me but Georgian Language is not in here, I tried to register but I cannot log in, I want to ask them to add Georgian language to Pootle
12:31 tcohen shakogele: you need to substribe to the koha-translate list and ask there
12:32 shakogele I've subscribed there but could not find where to write to whom write
12:33 tcohen shakogele: subscribe here http://lists.koha-community.or[…]fo/koha-translate
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12:33 tcohen and write to
12:34 tcohen requesting for the language to be added, adn for your  account to be given the right permissions on that language
12:37 magnuse hm, there is a georgian translation, but i dunno if it is on pootle
12:38 magnuse huh, why can i see the link to the item search on a 3.18.5 installation but not on master?
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12:46 tcohen gaetan_B: the syspref caching thing is done to avoid syspref caching :-D because odd things happen if a plack process caches the prefs and lives for a while (you end up with different users running koha with different sysprefs at a time")
12:46 gaetan_B tcohen: ok, i thought it was not particularly uf-8 related ;)
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12:56 mveron Joubu: Thanks for testing Bug 14011  (see comment about object barcode and its value)
12:56 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14011 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Failed QA , Triggering slip print with enter key collides with 'barcode submitted' message
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13:02 fridolin ca
13:03 * fridolin has big fingers :)
13:05 Joubu mveron: ok it's because of a jquery of js magic, barcode == $("#barcode")
13:05 Joubu maybe it's better to make it explicit as it is in the other parts of the file
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13:09 tcohen hi Joubu
13:09 tcohen h icai
13:09 tcohen hi cait
13:10 tcohen hey fridolin
13:10 wahanui rumour has it fridolin is busy at the moment, I asked him to backport the bug fix
13:10 cait hi tcohen
13:10 fridolin hie tcohen
13:10 fridolin wahanui: wich bug ?
13:10 wahanui wish i knew, fridolin
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13:13 tcohen Joubu: I'm pushing Yohann's work on TestBuilder
13:14 Joubu tcohen: that's a good news :) (at least for me)
13:14 tcohen that's why i'm telling you specifically of course :-D
13:16 tcohen Joubu: Emancipator sounds great BTW
13:17 cait i found out why viewing a subscription almost killed our server
13:17 cait who wants to know?
13:17 * tcohen wants
13:17 * Joubu is not sure
13:17 cait ok here it is: you can set the number of a subscription in months, weeks and issues
13:17 cait if you set issues and choose a high number..... kaboom
13:18 cait and.... there is a nice little bug: everytime you edit a subscriptipn, it will set itself to issues - no matter what was set in the db before :(
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13:19 Joubu what is a high number?
13:19 cait 999999
13:19 Joubu ha yes, it is :)
13:19 cait thy don't want to renew ever... and it worked in 3.12...
13:19 cait but it doesn't in 3.18
13:19 cait it also works if you usemonths
13:19 cait but they edited a bunch of subscriptions and didn#t notice it reset itself to issues
13:19 cait because of a bug in the form
13:20 shakogele hello again, I have subscribed to here and sent message to to add Georgian Language to Pootle, no unswer yet, how long should I wait? thanks
13:20 cait shakogele: i saw your email, you will have to wait a little bit until the translation manager sees it
13:20 cait those roles are filled by volunteers
13:20 cait so you can't expect an immediate answer
13:21 shakogele <cait> thanks
13:25 fridolin wahanui: sorry i dont understand, i missed something ?
13:25 wahanui fridolin: i haven't a clue
13:25 shakogele one more question, I'm using 3.18 version which uses new template, can I change opac template to old one? which is blue?
13:28 shakogele I've changed opactheme to prog but opac remains same
13:31 barton dcook, are you extant? :-)
13:32 barton or should I @later you?
13:32 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13998: Reintroduce use of Koha::Database for C4::Ratings <[…]4f888ce086454a4cd> / Bug 13917: OPAC: Putting holds still possible by URL even if turned off by system... <[…]9300de19ec35eda16> / Bug 12604: refactoring Category.t with TestBuilder <http://git
13:33 * barton guesses that @later is better.
13:34 mveron wahanui?
13:34 wahanui yes, mveron?
13:34 mveron :-)
13:35 magnuse shakogele: i think there is already a georgian translation of koha, but not on pootle
13:36 shakogele magnuse: and how to implement it, can it be implemented on Koha 3.18
13:36 magnuse i think someone called Herakli or something similar at the georgian library association has been working on it, but i do not know if it has been kept up to date
13:37 magnuse shakogele: if yu could get the .po files yoy could put them in the right place on your server and install the translation
13:37 magnuse if it is not too out of date
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13:38 magnuse i can try to get you in touch with someone who knows more about the georgian translation than me
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13:39 shakogele magnuse: it would be very good
13:39 barton @later tell dcook I've just seen an instance of the quoting issue in Bug 13812 -- only the problem occurs on the 'return to previous search' button on catalogue/ -- I'm wondering whether your XML::LibXSLT::register_function() solution would fix this as well, and whether this is a patch that you'd be willing to write.
13:39 huginn` barton: The operation succeeded.
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13:44 nengard updating the manual and i'm wondering if SessionRestrictionByIP is basically just a prefernece to make it so that you don't get logged out if your ip address changes - or if it's more complicated than that
13:46 cait i think basically that's correct - but it's removing a security thing - it shoudl ony be switched if really really necessary
13:46 cait like a changing ip in a short timeframe... not once a day or so
13:51 nengard okay i'll put an 'important' on it
13:56 Joubu mveron: about bug 14011, did you mean my followup broke your patch?
13:56 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14011 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Passed QA , Triggering slip print with enter key collides with 'barcode submitted' message
13:56 Joubu I have just try again and seems to work
13:56 Joubu tried*
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13:57 mveron Joubu: Not sure, I will test as well...
13:58 fridolin wahanui: what is the meaning of life ?
13:58 wahanui the meaning of life is probably 42
14:02 mveron Joubu: 1411 works here as well. I was my mistake with my additional test (value instead of val() )
14:02 mveron I -> It
14:05 cait bug 14022 - you troublemaker!
14:05 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14022 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Subscription form resets 'subscription length' to issues on editing
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14:53 cait Joubu++
14:54 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13381 - RDA: 245 field changes in XSLT <[…]ced64152d70420cd7> / Bug 13385: (QA followup) field number is enough <[…]e237af037c9245079> / Bug 13385: Add field 508 to XSLT (OPAC and staff) <[…]a=commitdiff;h=93
15:05 nengard_phone who manages jenkins? I don't see a 3.18 manual branch
15:05 nlegrand about bug 14016, applying the patch made the 00:00 desapear and show only a date like '27/05/2015' is it a correctly formatted due date ?
15:05 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14016 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Due dates in OPAC show 0:00 when it should be 23:59
15:05 cait nlegrand: it should be - to check you can also check out something with another due time (using specify due date)
15:06 cait like check out something and specify the due date to be 11:00 or something - that shoudl show then
15:06 cait nlegrand: for 'daily' loans with due time 23:59 the time is not shown, but for all other times it should show
15:08 nlegrand cait: ok, thanks!
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15:08 cait gald you were able to make sense of that :)
15:10 barton Jobbu++
15:10 barton ^^ for bug 12847
15:10 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12847 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Date comparisons in C4::Members::IssueSlip are broken
15:11 magnuse Joubu++ in general :-)
15:11 barton yeah.
15:11 cait :)
15:11 cait @karma
15:11 huginn` cait: Highest karma: "cait" (213), "Joubu" (164), and "tcohen" (163).  Lowest karma: "ie" (-21), "-" (-13), and "^" (-12).  You (cait) are ranked 1 out of 393.
15:11 Joubu Whaou, lot of karma, can I buy something with it? :)
15:12 cait with 10.000 karma points... you get a jar of cookies? ;)
15:12 cait but seriously - thx for lots of bug fixing
15:12 barton the issueslip thing wasn't a huge issue, but it was a ticket that had sat too long, and was hard to reproduce.
15:12 cait talking about hard to reproduce...
15:12 Joubu nlegrand: dd/mm/yyyy is correctly formated for uk date format
15:13 cait bug 13482 - would be awesome if we could ge ta sign off
15:13 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13482 normal, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Needs Signoff , A race condition prevents item info from being available for ReserveSlip (hold notice) printing.
15:13 cait barton: you filed it as bug 12514
15:13 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12514 normal, P3, ---, koha-bugs, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Pressing 'print and confirm hold' on check in  triggers race condition
15:14 barton eh. yeah.
15:15 barton lemme see if khall has any ideas on that one... he told me about the race condition and suggested that I file a bug for it.
15:15 cait barton: we have 2 suggested solutions
15:15 cait on the upper bug
15:15 cait we need testers :)
15:15 barton cait -- ok, lemme take a peek.
15:20 barton cait -- so you're looking for signoff on Joubu's counter patch?
15:25 cait i haven't taken a closer look on the code yet - but I really want to see this fixed
15:29 barton nod, that's defnitely a thorn in our side.
15:35 cait have to run, bbl :)
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15:37 reiveune bye
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15:50 khall Joubu: testing your alternate patch for bug 13482. When I try it, I get no popup!
15:50 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13482 normal, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Needs Signoff , A race condition prevents item info from being available for ReserveSlip (hold notice) printing.
15:52 Joubu khall: maybe your browser blocked it?
15:52 khall it doesn't block it when I rescan and do print and confirm the second time
15:53 khall
15:55 Joubu khall: hum, that's weird. I will try to have a look tomorrow
15:55 khall k
15:56 Joubu khall: Can you let me a comment on the bug report with the screen cast url please?
15:56 khall will do!
15:57 gaetan_B bye!
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16:11 khall cait: can describe what you mean with included ISBD puncutation on bug 1917 ? Should I just remove the "by" altogether?
16:11 huginn` Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1917 enhancement, P3, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Add RSS Feeds for Lists
16:11 cait khall: for marc21 that would make sense
16:11 khall cait: that would also make the need for translation moot
16:11 cait khall: hm not quite i think, let me check
16:12 cait you also got the descripiton
16:12 cait <description>RSS feed for public list [% shelfname | html %]</description>
16:12 cait and the by makes sense for unimarc
16:12 khall How about I change the description to just the list name?
16:12 cait hm maybe we could check how the other feeds are done?
16:12 khall The tt file is definitely translatable, it must be a limitation of the translation tool
16:13 cait yeah you have xml
16:13 cait if it was an xml file
16:13 cait it probably would work :)
16:13 cait but in a tt file only html is translated
16:15 cait huh
16:15 cait seems like the result list rss feed is also not translatable *sigh*
16:16 cait khall: i think the problem is if we are 'cheating' now, someone else will add to it
16:16 cait and it will stay around as untranslatable
16:16 khall cait, what if we use a system preference to store the template? That way it's not only translatable, but customizable!
16:17 cait but one language only too :)
16:18 cait wondering if there might be a trick to do it
16:18 cait we have used include files i think to make things like the header files of the csv export ranslatable
16:19 khall cait: where do I get the translation tool?
16:19 cait i feel lke there must be an existing solution
16:19 cait khall: heh
16:19 cait there is no tool
16:19 cait you go to misc/translator
16:19 khall ah, that's what I meant
16:20 cait and run perl translate update de-DE if you want to update the german files
16:20 cait and perl translate install de-DE to install htem :)
16:20 cait the first command updates the po files with the new sstrings, so what's in there is good
16:20 wahanui i guess good is the furthest you go back, bad is the furthest you go forward (if those directions make sense)
16:21 cait khall: we got translatable xslt... and the xml plugins are trnaslatable.. and also html... it's just this file has the wrong mix i think hm
16:24 cait khall: i tihnk the 'by' is needed to make it look good f or unimarc
16:25 cait complicated
16:25 wahanui rumour has it complicated is far too mild a term to describe
16:26 khall cait: updated the followup
16:27 cait i can't really think right now
16:27 cait need to get some dinner first
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17:08 cait khall++ # the bestest ideas
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17:19 tcohen cait: can you try prove  t/db_dependent/Circulation/CheckIfIssuedToPatron.t
17:21 tcohen Joubu: some tests are misteriously failing
17:22 * tcohen needs help
17:23 cait i will try sec
17:26 cait tcohen: hm passes for me
17:26 tcohen have you updated?
17:26 tcohen your git?
17:26 cait yes
17:27 cait and only missing the marc21 update
17:27 cait which is failing for you?
17:29 tcohen
17:40 cait hm
17:40 cait weird?
17:40 wahanui well, weird is normal after a while :)
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18:05 tcohen something on the DB
18:05 tcohen a side effect of some kind
18:05 cait hm yes
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18:35 tcohen found it
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18:59 Mexico I have a problem , but have 56,000 records to update a record is not reflected in the OPAC . Can anyone say that happens ?
18:59 tcohen Mexico: again, rephrase
18:59 Mexico ok
19:00 tcohen you have a problem with a single record? and don't want to reindex the whole database?
19:01 tcohen Mexico: preferis en español? :-D
19:01 Mexico si
19:01 tcohen jeje, ok
19:01 Mexico mejor en español
19:01 Mexico kekekkeek
19:01 Mexico jejejeje
19:01 Mexico ok
19:01 tcohen soy todo oidos
19:01 Mexico mira el problema que tengo es que tengo instalado el koha
19:01 tcohen com oha sido instalado?
19:02 Mexico instalado en centos 6.5
19:02 tcohen ouch
19:02 tcohen ok
19:02 tcohen y entonces?
19:02 Mexico pero mira ya reindice
19:02 Mexico y todo va bien, el detalle es que por ejemplo
19:02 Mexico si tengo un registro
19:02 Mexico que por ejemplo se le actualice por ejemplo el titulo
19:03 Mexico este no se refleja en el opac
19:03 Mexico es decir en la base de datos
19:03 tcohen entiendo
19:03 Mexico si se modifica
19:03 Mexico pero en el opac
19:03 tcohen te entiendo igual de poco en español :-D
19:03 tcohen de todas maneras
19:03 tcohen tenes que entender que cuando actualizas un registro en la interfaz de Koha
19:03 Mexico ok supongo que es el indizador el del problema
19:04 tcohen lo que sigue es que debes correr el reindexado para que el cambio se vea reflejado
19:04 Mexico claro eso si funciona, tengo el indexado automaticamente
19:04 tcohen deberías tener una rutina cron configurada para ejecutarse cada 5 minutos o algo asi
19:04 Mexico claro
19:04 Mexico lo tengo cada minuto
19:04 tcohen y lo que dices es que no anda?
19:04 Mexico claro si lo que me he dado cuenta
19:05 Mexico es que con menos de 200 registros
19:05 Mexico si lo hace
19:05 Mexico pero ya hablemos de 20 mil registros o más
19:05 Mexico ya no funciona
19:05 tcohen nosotros tenemos bases con 90K registros y no pasa nada
19:05 Mexico es decir no lo actualiza
19:05 Mexico en verdad?
19:05 tcohen he hecho pruebas con 1.5M de registros y tampoco falla
19:06 Mexico entonces tengo un problema en la configuración
19:06 Mexico por que mi cron sigue funcionando
19:06 Mexico tienes alguna idea de lo que puede estar ocurriendo?
19:07 tcohen puedes correr lo siguiente?
19:07 Mexico o que cron has echado a andar
19:07 tcohen grep "register:" /etc/koha/zebradb/*.cfg
19:08 Mexico ok
19:09 tcohen y?
19:10 Mexico 1 minuto
19:10 Mexico por favor
19:11 tcohen deberias copiar y pegar la linea de cron tambien
19:11 tcohen para revisarla
19:11 Mexico grep: /etc/koha/zebradb/*.cfg: No such file or directory
19:11 Mexico ok
19:11 Mexico mira esta es la linea del cron
19:13 Mexico /usr/bin/zebrasrv-2.0 -D -T -p /var/run/ -f /home/koha/etc/koha-conf.xml -l /var/log/koha/zebrasrv.log   /usr/local/bin/koha-index-daemon --timeout 60 --directory /home/hoha/tmp &
19:14 tcohen puch
19:14 tcohen ouch
19:14 Mexico :´(
19:14 tcohen eso se ve MUY feo
19:14 Mexico ok linea por linea
19:14 tcohen zebrasrv es el servidor de busqueda
19:14 Mexico así es
19:14 Mexico /usr/bin/zebrasrv-2.0 -D -T -p /var/run/ -f /home/koha/etc/koha-conf.xml -l /var/log/koha/zebrasrv.log
19:15 tcohen eso no tiene ningún lugar en ningun archivo de cron
19:15 Mexico /usr/local/bin/koha-index-daemon --timeout 60 --directory /home/koha/tmp &
19:15 tcohen ninguna de las lineas
19:15 Mexico tengo un archivo rc.local
19:15 tcohen eso como mucho debe estar en un archivo de init
19:15 tcohen eso, rc.local levanta esas cosas al inicio
19:15 tcohen pero eso no es el cron
19:15 Mexico : 0
19:16 Mexico :()
19:16 tcohen de hecho, teniendo koha-index-daemon corriendo al inicio, no deberias tener ningún cron
19:16 Mexico como podría hacerlo
19:16 tcohen ya que cumple la misma función
19:16 tcohen está la variable KOHA_CONF definida en rc.local?
19:16 Mexico si
19:16 Mexico las 2
19:17 tcohen pues al parecer tenes un problema con el funcionamiento de koha-index-daemon
19:17 tcohen que es una libreria externa
19:17 tcohen deberías revisar los logs
19:17 Mexico cómo?
19:17 tcohen a ver si esta funcionando correctamente
19:18 tcohen pero aqui no encontraras mucha ayuda sobre Koha::Crontib::Tamil::Indexer
19:18 Mexico ok, si es lo que te comentaba, según yo, es por la cantidad de registros
19:19 tcohen intenta:
19:19 tcohen grep "register:" /home/koha/etc/zebradb/*.cfg
19:19 Mexico ok,
19:19 tcohen y ya tengo que partir
19:19 Mexico ok amigo,
19:19 Mexico siempre entras a este chat?
19:20 tcohen deberías hacer las consultas en koha-es
19:20 tcohen la lista en español
19:20 tcohen el mayor problema que tienen es que estan en CentOS que nadie por aqui usa
19:20 tcohen y aun no has dicho que version de Koha
19:20 Mexico ok, bueno
19:20 Mexico seguiré investigando
19:20 Mexico gracias por su ayuda
19:21 tcohen lo que puedo decirte es que yo he indexado mas de un millon y medio de registros y no encontre problemas
19:21 Mexico con que sistema operativo?
19:21 tcohen aca regularmente tenemos bases de entre 25K y 90K registros, sin problemas
19:21 tcohen Ubuntu 14.04 o Debian 7
19:21 tcohen has ejecutado lo que te dije?
19:21 Mexico ok, probaré
19:21 Mexico se lo agradezco
19:21 Mexico que tenga un excelente día
19:21 tcohen grep "register:" /home/koha/etc/zebradb/*.cfg
19:22 Mexico (y)
19:22 tcohen salida?
19:25 Mexico ah lo siento
19:25 Mexico entendí que iba de salida
19:25 tcohen quiero ver la salida de ese comando
19:26 tcohen antes de irme
19:26 tcohen es lo unico que se me ocurre que podría estar relacionado a la cantidad de registros que sería tu hipotesis
19:28 Mexico no muestra nada
19:28 Mexico será por la instalación simple que realice
19:28 Mexico ?
19:29 Mexico me conecto en un momento por favor,
19:29 Mexico voy a una reunión breve
19:30 tcohen bye #koha
19:36 tcohen @later tell Joubu I need your help dissecting a problem with the tests on jenkins
19:36 huginn` tcohen: The operation succeeded.
19:36 tcohen @later tell khall I need your help dissecting a problem with the tests on jenkins
19:36 huginn` tcohen: The operation succeeded.
20:08 bag Joubu++
20:25 cait khall_away: still around?
20:31 mveron @wunder Allschwil
20:31 huginn` mveron: The current temperature in Grenchen, Switzerland is 11.0°C (10:20 PM CEST on April 20, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady).
20:32 mveron @wunder Basel
20:32 huginn` mveron: The current temperature in Attenschwiller, Sundgau, Attenschwiller, Switzerland is 10.4°C (10:30 PM CEST on April 20, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady).
20:33 mveron Oh, 10:30 PM...  Good dayandnighttime, #koha
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20:36 cait night mveron
20:36 bag[…]&
20:50 cait @later tell khall can you please check bug 11747? missing a small follow-up
20:50 huginn` cait: The operation succeeded.
20:52 cait @later tell khall and also the rss lists 1917 and relative's checkouts 9303? :)
20:52 huginn` cait: The operation succeeded.
21:01 nengard alright, all tickets up to date, manual getting close to ready for 3.20
21:01 nengard time to walk the dogs and end the day
21:01 nengard @weather 78754
21:01 huginn` nengard: The current temperature in University Hills, Austin, Texas is 20.9°C (4:00 PM CDT on April 20, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1015 hPa (Rising).
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21:07 cait @wunder Konstanz
21:07 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 12.2°C (11:06 PM CEST on April 20, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady).
21:10 * cait waves at JesseM
21:11 * JesseM waves back at cait
21:11 JesseM @wunder stratford,CT
21:11 huginn` JesseM: The current temperature in Nichols Elementary School, Stratford, Connecticut is 10.8°C (5:07 PM EDT on April 20, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.69 in 1005 hPa (Falling). Dense fog advisory in effect from 9 PM this evening to 6 am EDT Tuesday...
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21:15 rangi morning
21:17 cait mornin rangi
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21:54 cait could someone do me a favor?
21:54 cait and run perl t/db_dependent/Budgets.t  on master?
21:56 eythian hi
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22:02 eythian cait:
22:02 eythian t/db_dependent/Budgets.t .. ok
22:02 eythian All tests successful.
22:02 eythian Files=1, Tests=120,  7 wallclock secs ( 0.03 usr  0.05 sys +  1.21 cusr  2.02 csys =  3.31 CPU)
22:02 eythian Result: PASS
22:03 eythian that's with a fresh empty database.
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22:03 cait cool thx
22:03 cait so it's this patch
22:03 cait ... which is not so cool
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23:05 talljoy hi koha.  dinner time stateside is probably not the best time to ask a question....but
23:06 talljoy how do i specify an itemnumber search directly in the search box?  sn:234508 searches for biblionumber 234508  how do i do that for a specific itemnumber
23:07 eythian it's in 952$9, and indexed as att 8010, but I can't see anything aliased to it.
23:07 eythian maybe just try "itemnumber:1234"?
23:11 talljoy i tried that, didn't work
23:11 bag that should work
23:12 bag :)
23:12 bag can you paste your query in here?
23:12 talljoy my query?
23:12 bag 1178   <!--record.abs line 292: melm 952$9      itemnumber:n,itemnumber:s-->
23:12 bag 1179   <index_subfields tag="952" subfields="9">
23:12 bag 1180     <target_index>itemnumber:n</target_index>
23:12 bag 1181     <target_index>itemnumber:s</target_index>
23:12 bag yeah just copy the URL
23:12 talljoy http://staff.switch-temp.bywat[…]sort_by=relevance
23:16 bag yeah I don’t know - it should do something :)
23:16 bag heh
23:20 talljoy i think like ethyian said it's not aliased to anything.
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23:40 dcook Phew. Made it through the storm!
23:41 eythian talljoy: I'd recommend asking dcook :)
23:41 eythian wahanui: dcook
23:41 wahanui dcook is Sisyphus
23:41 eythian wahanui: dcook
23:42 wahanui i think dcook is missing part of that original link due to a smiley face that comes up in dcook's IRC client
23:42 eythian wahanui: dcook
23:42 wahanui dcook is probably Sisyphus
23:42 eythian wahanui: dcook
23:42 wahanui dcook is a zebra expert now
23:42 eythian there, that one
23:42 dcook @later tell barton I'd be all right with writing a patch for bug 13812, but I don't know if the return to previous search issue is related
23:42 huginn` dcook: The operation succeeded.
23:42 * dcook is probably Sisyphus
23:42 * dcook looks to the scrollback
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23:43 dcook talljoy: You can't use CCL aliases like itemnumber in the advanced search
23:43 dcook You can only use them in the simple search like in the masthead/banner thing
23:44 dcook Hmm, I'm getting an issue with itemnumber too..
23:45 talljoy see i did it both ways too just in case that was true
23:45 talljoy go on itemnumber
23:46 dcook Yeah, I often like to use "local-number" which is an alias for biblionumber, and that's working well... no go with itemnumber though
23:46 dcook Hopefully I'll have an answer in a minute ;)
23:47 dcook Hmm very interesting..
23:47 dcook [114] Unsupported Use attribute -- v2 addinfo '8010'
23:48 talljoy dcook++
23:50 dcook Hmm certainly something in the "itemnumber" index..
23:52 dcook That is... exceedingly bizarre that we're getting that 114 error
23:53 dcook Hmm doing the same for 8006 and 8007 as well..
23:55 * dcook is going to try a re-index..
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23:58 dcook Oh...
23:58 dcook I think I might know
23:58 dcook Ha!
23:58 dcook Yes!
23:59 dcook talljoy: The trick is that the itemnumber index is a numeric index
23:59 dcook So it needs to be a numeric query
23:59 dcook By default, it is a wordlist query
23:59 dcook Or something like that
23:59 dcook I'm probably being imprecise with my language
23:59 dcook Try...
23:59 dcook itemnumber,st-numeric:1
23:59 dcook I bet you that works

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