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JoshB joined #koha |
| 00:16 |
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dcook |
Oh man... maple is so good |
| 00:17 |
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dcook |
And pastries |
| 00:17 |
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dcook |
Especially maple pastries |
| 00:26 |
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mtompset |
What do you think about this? http://globalnews.ca/news/1929[…]ew-collaboration/ |
| 00:31 |
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cdickinson |
wow, that looks like the most glorious combination I've seen in a while |
| 00:38 |
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dcook |
Sweeeet |
| 01:10 |
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wizzyrea |
kohadevbox? |
| 01:10 |
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wahanui |
i guess kohadevbox is at https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox |
| 01:11 |
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Francesca joined #koha |
| 01:21 |
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wizzyrea |
francesca http://superuser.com/questions[…]-x-10-9-mavericks |
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| 01:21 |
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wizzyrea |
francesca http://superuser.com/questions[…]-x-10-9-mavericks |
| 01:22 |
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eythian |
Francesca: don't be running OSX 10.9, it's quite unsafe. |
| 01:22 |
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Francesca |
Haven't updated recently so probably don't have that version |
| 01:29 |
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eythian |
it's an older version. It has significant security issues that apple won't fix because they hate you. |
| 01:31 |
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cdickinson |
is Mavericks already out of support period? |
| 01:38 |
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eythian |
dunno |
| 01:41 |
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Francesca |
running yosemite |
| 01:41 |
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Francesca |
not mavericks |
| 01:47 |
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wizzyrea |
http://appleinsider.com/articl[…]lion-or-mavericks |
| 01:48 |
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Francesca |
ok |
| 01:48 |
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Francesca |
I need to update my mac |
| 01:48 |
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rangi |
cdickinson: https://truesecdev.wordpress.com/ |
| 01:49 |
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cdickinson |
ah, cool |
| 01:49 |
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wizzyrea |
wow osx is especially broken. |
| 01:49 |
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Francesca |
I still think its better than windows |
| 01:51 |
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wizzyrea |
I can't believe I'm saying this, but if I have to use a non-free OS, I think I'd rather it be windows :O |
| 01:51 |
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Francesca |
wow |
| 01:52 |
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wizzyrea |
at least in terms of security. There are other reasons not to use it. |
| 01:52 |
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* Francesca |
dies of shock |
| 01:52 |
|
* wizzyrea |
is not surprised |
| 01:53 |
|
wizzyrea |
I used to be a die hard osx fan |
| 01:53 |
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wizzyrea |
I used it when it was 10.0 |
| 01:53 |
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* Francesca |
dies of shock again |
| 01:53 |
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Francesca |
I don't mind ether |
| 01:53 |
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Francesca |
ubuntu is my fav |
| 01:53 |
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dcook |
ubuntu and debian both seem pretty solid :) |
| 01:53 |
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wizzyrea |
it got too helpful, and much like windows used to be, now it gets in my way of doing work when I just want to do work. |
| 01:54 |
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Francesca |
its just I can't run any of my music software on ubuntu |
| 01:54 |
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Francesca |
mac does? |
| 01:54 |
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wizzyrea |
yeah that's fair enough |
| 01:54 |
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eythian |
http://notalwaysworking.com/wp[…]/2015/04/brid.jpg |
| 01:54 |
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Francesca |
my friend has a windows laptop for school |
| 01:54 |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 01:54 |
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eythian |
wizzyrea: I used it at 10.0 too. It was possibly the worst thing ever |
| 01:54 |
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wizzyrea |
:D |
| 01:54 |
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JoshB joined #koha |
| 01:54 |
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dcook |
I kind of want to create a brand called "Brid" now |
| 01:55 |
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dcook |
And have it been known... it is a deliberate misspelling |
| 01:55 |
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dcook |
And maybe have it be something that English majors will need... but will hate to need |
| 01:55 |
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dcook |
Hmm, it must be Friday. Need to beer the antagonism out of me. |
| 01:55 |
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eythian |
dcook: one of the shares on my computer is "Video's", it makes some people quite upset. |
| 01:55 |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 01:55 |
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eythian |
Especially when I point out that it's actually correct. |
| 01:56 |
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dcook |
O_o |
| 01:56 |
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dcook |
Is this a Dutch thing? |
| 01:56 |
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dcook |
This sounds familiar |
| 01:56 |
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eythian |
http://www.dutchgrammar.com/en[…]dPronunciation.27 |
| 01:56 |
|
dcook |
Yes! Memory ftw! |
| 01:57 |
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eythian |
basically, if it ends in a vowel and you want to pluralise it, you add 's |
| 01:57 |
|
eythian |
*stressed vowel |
| 01:57 |
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dcook |
So hotdog's would be wrong |
| 01:57 |
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dcook |
But video's is ok? |
| 01:57 |
|
eythian |
yeah |
| 01:57 |
|
eythian |
hothonden |
| 01:57 |
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dcook |
I need to go back to Amsterdam to remember what sign made me wonder about the use of the apostrophe in Dutch.. |
| 01:57 |
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dcook |
It was near some square |
| 01:58 |
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dcook |
I mostly just remember young people getting high around us |
| 01:58 |
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eythian |
so, near the station then, and they were brits? :) |
| 01:58 |
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dcook |
It was very possibly near a station. I don't know their nationality, but they were fairly short |
| 01:58 |
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dcook |
So maybe! |
| 01:58 |
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wahanui |
i guess so maybe is the condition which is not working |
| 01:59 |
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* dcook |
has way too many tabs open |
| 01:59 |
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dcook |
Is wizzyrea the master of tabs? |
| 01:59 |
|
dcook |
This also sounds familiar... |
| 01:59 |
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eythian |
Well, many tourists hardly seem to get past Amsterdam Centraal before getting weed from a coffee shop |
| 01:59 |
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dcook |
heh |
| 02:00 |
|
eythian |
within the first three canals from the station is all tourists. |
| 02:00 |
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dcook |
I mostly just went to Amsterdam because I was touring capitals in Europe |
| 02:00 |
|
dcook |
And it was close by |
| 02:00 |
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eythian |
seems reasonable |
| 02:01 |
|
dcook |
My favourite memory was actually being trapped on the wrong side of a barrier with a bunch of German tourists |
| 02:01 |
|
dcook |
We'd all forgotten to tap on for the train, so we couldn't exit :p |
| 02:01 |
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Francesca |
oh dear |
| 02:02 |
|
dcook |
It was a bit embarrassing... but fortunately the Germans were in high spirits and could communicate |
| 02:02 |
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eythian |
I had that happen in London once, it didn't recognise my card to let me out. |
| 02:02 |
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pianohacker |
dcook: forgot to log out |
| 02:02 |
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wizzyrea |
http://cyberduck.ch/ |
| 02:02 |
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* Francesca |
waves at piano hacker |
| 02:02 |
|
dcook |
pianohacker: Happens to us all! I was going to ask how old you are, but then realized that you must be getting on in years due to all the time you've spent in uni! |
| 02:02 |
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dcook |
eythian: My second time to London, I didn't realize you needed to use your card to get out... |
| 02:03 |
|
dcook |
And I couldn't understand the guard :p |
| 02:03 |
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eythian |
heh |
| 02:03 |
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Francesca |
lol |
| 02:03 |
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pianohacker |
the aforementioned stress is real, and due to the fact that I have to get my thesis completed, edited and defended by May 11 |
| 02:03 |
|
dcook |
He eventually said "You American?!" |
| 02:03 |
|
pianohacker |
*whine whine whine cheese* |
| 02:03 |
|
dcook |
Wow... |
| 02:03 |
|
dcook |
That's just not too far away at all |
| 02:03 |
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pianohacker |
but good to see you all, including Fransesca. Time to log out, have a lovely day :) |
| 02:03 |
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* dcook |
sends all the cheese pianohacker's way |
| 02:03 |
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pianohacker |
dcook: exactly! |
| 02:04 |
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Francesca |
dcook, american? I have a hard time believing that |
| 02:04 |
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pianohacker |
bye |
| 02:04 |
|
Francesca |
see ya later piano hacker |
| 02:04 |
|
eythian |
he's pretty close |
| 02:04 |
|
dcook |
:O |
| 02:04 |
|
eythian |
formerly geographically speaking |
| 02:04 |
|
dcook |
Well, I guess I did have a mailing address in America for the first 10 years of my life too |
| 02:05 |
|
dcook |
My dad was a border guard, so we spent a lot of time on both sides |
| 02:05 |
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dcook |
Francesca: I'm Canadian, but I think the transit guard thought all Americans were dim :p |
| 02:05 |
|
dcook |
My wounded pride didn't have the heart to correct him |
| 02:05 |
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Francesca |
oh dear |
| 02:05 |
|
Francesca |
that happens to my stepfather all the time |
| 02:05 |
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dcook |
Actually, I'm Canadian and almost Australia O_O |
| 02:06 |
|
dcook |
Australian* |
| 02:06 |
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dcook |
Oh yeah... I recall you mentioning your stepfather. Where's he from again? |
| 02:16 |
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| 02:18 |
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dcook |
I am so grateful to the person who made "Visibility" much more user friendly in the frameworks.. |
| 02:19 |
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Francesca |
canada |
| 02:20 |
|
Francesca |
Don't know which part he grew up in though |
| 02:20 |
|
dcook |
Lots of different parts :D |
| 02:21 |
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dcook |
The fun part of being Canadian is getting to pretend that you're offended when people ask if you're American |
| 02:21 |
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eythian |
eh, we get to do that too |
| 02:21 |
|
eythian |
only, with Australia |
| 02:22 |
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dcook |
What happens when you tell people you're from New Zealand? |
| 02:22 |
|
dcook |
I love New Zealand, but I imagine that's in large part because of you guys |
| 02:22 |
|
eythian |
"Oh, hobbits and sheep!" |
| 02:22 |
|
dcook |
lol |
| 02:22 |
|
dcook |
Well, I guess ours is snow and hockey |
| 02:22 |
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dcook |
moose |
| 02:24 |
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eythian |
yeah. møøse is Scandinavia. |
| 02:24 |
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cdickinson |
dcook: I've only been to Japan, and all they talk about when it comes to New Zealand is how clean and full of nature it is :p |
| 02:24 |
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dcook |
I love clean and full of nature! |
| 02:25 |
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cdickinson |
honestly, as a kiwi, I think their sentiments are a little misguided :P |
| 02:25 |
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dcook |
Oh nose! Don't tell me this! |
| 02:25 |
|
dcook |
Wait, I don't know which is better... |
| 02:25 |
|
dcook |
Realistic expectations or built up fantasy |
| 02:25 |
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cdickinson |
it's definitely full of nature |
| 02:25 |
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dcook |
I figure New Zealand must look like the painting I've seen in the NSW art gallery... and the pics from wizzyrea's house |
| 02:25 |
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cdickinson |
clean? that's a different story |
| 02:26 |
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dcook |
I like to think that Canada is fairly clean... except spring time |
| 02:26 |
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wizzyrea |
yeah, it's not as clean as they'd like to say |
| 02:26 |
|
dcook |
When the snow melts, it leaves behind heaps of dirt and refuse |
| 02:26 |
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wizzyrea |
possibly better than say, japan though |
| 02:26 |
|
dcook |
You're telling me that Japan isn't a super clean ultramodern paradise? |
| 02:26 |
|
dcook |
I don't know if I want to go now... |
| 02:26 |
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cdickinson |
Japan is TIDY |
| 02:26 |
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cdickinson |
in the major cities, pollution is a problem |
| 02:27 |
|
dcook |
:( |
| 02:27 |
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cdickinson |
Osaka's not so bad, but Tokyo's pretty much got a permanent light smog |
| 02:27 |
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dcook |
I wish I knew more about air pollution. When were were in Melbourne the other day, I couldn't tell if I was seeing smog or fog |
| 02:27 |
|
dcook |
I don't know if any city can compete with Vancouver's air though |
| 02:28 |
|
dcook |
You could get a buzz just going for a stroll down the street |
| 02:28 |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 02:28 |
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cdickinson |
lol |
| 02:28 |
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dcook |
I actually meant that in regards to the trees not the weed |
| 02:28 |
|
dcook |
But it's true in both regards |
| 02:28 |
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cdickinson |
drugs are surprisingly well established here as well |
| 02:28 |
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dcook |
I used to live by one of the urban forests, and it was absolutely amazing after the rain... |
| 02:29 |
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cdickinson |
especially in the city I come from haha |
| 02:29 |
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Francesca |
yeah when I think of canada i think of ice hockey |
| 02:29 |
|
dcook |
I wonder if there's a place where they're not established though |
| 02:29 |
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Francesca |
and snow |
| 02:29 |
|
Francesca |
and cold |
| 02:29 |
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eythian |
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EVW1LNS/ |
| 02:29 |
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dcook |
Francesa: You just described my youth |
| 02:29 |
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dcook |
:p |
| 02:29 |
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dcook |
Well, throw in some computers and books. There are sometimes you just couldn't go outside... |
| 02:29 |
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cdickinson |
I'm not sure how to feel about that, eythian |
| 02:29 |
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dcook |
eythian: That's... a bit disturbing |
| 02:30 |
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cdickinson |
Theremins are awesome, but THAT theremin........ wow, that stares into your soul |
| 02:30 |
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Francesca |
eythian: thats slightly creepy |
| 02:30 |
|
cdickinson |
Does the mouth move while playing? |
| 02:30 |
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Francesca |
i don't think I want to know |
| 02:38 |
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| 02:43 |
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Francesca |
cdickson: tired are we? |
| 02:47 |
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cdickinson |
cdickinson* |
| 02:47 |
|
dcook |
hehe |
| 02:47 |
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cdickinson |
Francesca: it's not that I'm tired so much as I just stop breathing fast enough to not yawn ;P |
| 02:47 |
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Francesca |
lol |
| 02:47 |
|
Francesca |
nice comeback |
| 02:48 |
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cdickinson |
I thought so, but I guess I'm used to it :p it happens all the time |
| 02:49 |
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cdickinson |
my chemistry teacher at school HATED me for it |
| 02:49 |
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cdickinson |
she thought I was bored by her lessons |
| 02:49 |
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Francesca |
lol |
| 02:49 |
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cdickinson |
...the fact that she was right is besides the point, though |
| 02:49 |
|
Francesca |
I dropped science as soon as I could so never had that problem |
| 02:49 |
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wizzyrea |
it's a real thing, the psychological and unconscious breath holding |
| 02:49 |
|
Francesca |
wow |
| 02:49 |
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* Francesca |
will look it up later |
| 02:49 |
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wizzyrea |
part of mindfulness training is making sure you always breathe. |
| 02:50 |
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Francesca |
mmm, I've heard of that |
| 02:50 |
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* Francesca |
waves goodbye |
| 02:50 |
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cdickinson |
sounds like something I need to do |
| 02:50 |
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Francesca |
you're not the only one |
| 02:51 |
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cdickinson |
difference is I didn |
| 02:51 |
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cdickinson |
't know there was such a thing |
| 02:58 |
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dcook |
Hmm, I haven't done the unconscious breath holding thing in years |
| 02:58 |
|
dcook |
Never knew it was an actual thing |
| 03:01 |
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cdickinson |
I know it more than anyone I do |
| 03:02 |
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cdickinson |
not sure if it's the same, but whenever I go shopping with my family, for something I don't care about... I just start yawning like crazy and feeling sleepy, even though I'm not |
| 03:02 |
|
eythian |
good afterble constanoon. |
| 03:02 |
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eythian |
rangi: chose your pebble yet? |
| 03:02 |
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cdickinson |
Pebble as in the smartwatch? |
| 03:03 |
|
rangi |
yup |
| 03:03 |
|
eythian |
si. |
| 03:03 |
|
eythian |
just got the email to sort out details for the new one |
| 03:26 |
|
dcook |
Oh man... I think i'm down to 8 emails in my inbox |
| 03:26 |
|
dcook |
In theory, I could clear this thing by the end of the day O_O |
| 03:27 |
|
eythian |
I have 1,765. I should do something about that. |
| 03:27 |
|
dcook |
O_O |
| 03:27 |
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| 03:27 |
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dcook |
You and my wife. I don't know how you do it. |
| 03:27 |
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eythian |
it's pretty easy. Just be bad about deleting things. |
| 03:28 |
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dcook |
Ah, actually, if I'm honest... I'm not sure how big my personal inbox is |
| 03:28 |
|
dcook |
As I filter it to only show unread emails |
| 03:28 |
|
dcook |
Hmmm |
| 03:28 |
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* dcook |
nods |
| 03:28 |
|
dcook |
4044 read emails in the inbox :p |
| 03:28 |
|
dcook |
25 unread |
| 03:29 |
|
cdickinson |
8162 emails in my inbox |
| 03:29 |
|
eythian |
3,120 unread, 6,861 in total |
| 03:29 |
|
dcook |
O_O |
| 03:29 |
|
dcook |
Actually, old emails are super helpful |
| 03:29 |
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cdickinson |
but only 5 unread ones, and those unread ones are just ones that I sent myself to remind me of things |
| 03:29 |
|
dcook |
When I had to list all my old addresses over the past 10 years, the only records I had in some cases were old emails |
| 03:29 |
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dcook |
cdickinson: I'm glad I'm not the only one who does that :p |
| 03:29 |
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dcook |
I'd say 1/3 to 1/2 of email is probably emails to myself |
| 03:30 |
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cdickinson |
yeah, I thought it wasn't a bad thing |
| 03:30 |
|
dcook |
Like... "Double check shell scripts for bashisms" |
| 03:30 |
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cdickinson |
These post-it notes on my desk at Catalyst are nice, but they don't travel with me across the Internet :P |
| 03:30 |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 03:30 |
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cdickinson |
I just don't use bashisms in the first place |
| 03:30 |
|
dcook |
Well, that's the key! |
| 03:31 |
|
cdickinson |
I like to do crazy things in shell script |
| 03:31 |
|
cdickinson |
I started writing a chip8 interpreter in shell script over the holidays |
| 03:31 |
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cdickinson |
and I tried to use as many built-ins as possible WITHOUT resorting to bash to do it |
| 03:31 |
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dcook |
Hmm, I see what you're saying about 'crazy' :p |
| 03:32 |
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dcook |
I suppose it must be easier to avoid bashisms on some systems |
| 03:32 |
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dcook |
We use bash by default at work, but I think all of my home systems use dash |
| 03:32 |
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dcook |
Don't even realize sometimes the habits a person picks up.. |
| 03:32 |
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cdickinson |
yeah, dash because of Ubuntu/Debian at home for me |
| 03:33 |
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cdickinson |
The default shell at my university though is tcsh x_x |
| 03:33 |
|
dcook |
O_o |
| 03:33 |
|
dcook |
I've never even heard of that one |
| 03:33 |
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cdickinson |
otherwise known as the "C Shell" |
| 03:33 |
|
dcook |
Mmm |
| 03:33 |
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eythian |
it was common on some weird old unices. |
| 03:34 |
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cdickinson |
Arch Linux is the distro btw |
| 03:34 |
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eythian |
I had to use it for a while, until I realised that I could chsh to bash. |
| 03:34 |
|
eythian |
probably the sysadmins used some weird old unicies. |
| 03:34 |
|
eythian |
or arch is mad. |
| 03:34 |
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cdickinson |
it's supposed to be pretty good for interactive use, but it's a huge PITA for me |
| 03:34 |
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eythian |
either is an option. |
| 03:34 |
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cdickinson |
apparently the default shell in Arch is Bash |
| 03:35 |
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cdickinson |
but yes, our sysadmins at our university are not... normal |
| 03:35 |
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cdickinson |
not that sysadmins usually are :P |
| 03:37 |
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cdickinson |
the only extent of csh I know though is how to write aliases, because that's all I cared about |
| 03:40 |
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dcook |
Tricksy... one of my emails actually contained two attached emails... |
| 03:51 |
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| 04:01 |
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BobB |
hi folks |
| 04:01 |
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BobB |
does anyone know whether the changes coming on bug 11395 |
| 04:01 |
|
huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11395 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Batch modifications for records |
| 04:02 |
|
BobB |
will allow swapping of data from one marc field to another? |
| 04:18 |
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mtompset |
swapping? |
| 04:18 |
|
mtompset |
There is Add/Delete/Update/Move/Copy. |
| 04:19 |
|
mtompset |
I believe that means you could move 245$b into 245$a when 245$a is blank, or other such things. |
| 04:21 |
|
mtompset |
Actually, I'm in the midst of fixing a strange case on the progress bar, since I signed off a related bug 13606. |
| 04:21 |
|
huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13606 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Batch modification for records is limited to ~500 |
| 04:29 |
|
dcook |
eythian: any music suggestions for afternoon? |
| 04:29 |
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dcook |
Preferably something fast? |
| 04:31 |
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cdickinson |
he's gone down for beer o'clock, so you'll have to wait for a reply :P just about to join him |
| 04:32 |
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dcook |
Ah, jelly |
| 04:32 |
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dcook |
I still have 2.5 hours :p |
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dcook |
Enjoy the brews! |
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BobB |
@later tell mtompset thank you Mark, move or copy will be what they need |
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dcook why is beer o'clock only in NZ? |
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waves |
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BobB |
hi magnuse |
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dcook |
BobB: That's a very good question |
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dcook |
hey magnuse |
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BobB |
I'll have to speak to my boss about that :) |
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dcook |
hehe |
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magnuse |
in norway, alcohol at work is a complete no-no :-) |
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dcook |
I'm not sure what the state of affairs is in Australia |
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recalls seeings a lot of lunch beers when he first moved to Oz |
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dcook |
Never had any myself though |
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BobB: I like to think beer is synonymous with NZ haha |
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dcook |
:O |
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cdickinson |
or at the very least, alcohol is |
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dcook |
cdickinson: Still on the way for that beer or come and gone? |
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cdickinson |
Came and gone |
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cdickinson |
I have to drive tonight so I could only have one or two |
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dcook |
Ah, fair enough |
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cdickinson |
It's still going on, and eythian is still down there |
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cdickinson |
but yeah, the drinking culture here is notoriously... well, big |
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cdickinson |
not necessarily in a good way, but I enjoy it :) |
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dcook |
Having had a few beers with rangi, I can extrapolate ;) |
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dcook |
Yeah, that's like back home |
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dcook |
It wasn't always a good thing, but sometimes it was |
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cdickinson |
ah, yeah, that's how it feels here, too |
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cdickinson |
you should tell me more about these beers if there are stories to be had :P |
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cdickinson |
but for now I shall log off as I'm signing off from Catalyst for tonight |
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cdickinson |
so I'll be back on when I get home haha |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
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wahanui |
que tal, gaetan_B |
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magnuse |
bonjour france |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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huginn` |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on April 10, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 29.21 in 989 hPa (Steady). |
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magnuse |
woke up to 5 cm of fresh snow this morning... |
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magnuse |
@wunder marseille |
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huginn` |
magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 7.8°C (9:22 AM CEST on April 10, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.34 in 1027 hPa (Rising). |
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cdickinson |
@wunder nzwn |
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cdickinson: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0°C (7:00 PM NZST on April 10, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Steady). |
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hopefully won't be drenched while I'm out then |
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Can someone tell me when s/he has seen the progress bar (on importing record or modifying items) working for the last time? |
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dcook |
Mmm, I've seen it working when importing records in 3.14.5 |
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dcook |
I don't think I've ever seen it work for importing items... |
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dcook |
Just about time to get out of here! |
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says having stayed late like every other day ever |
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Joubu |
It does not work for me on 3.14.5 |
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Joubu |
using perl 5.20.1 |
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cdickinphone_ |
Lol, late for any specific reason, dcook? |
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dcook |
Joubu: I'll check my perl version, but I think I'm using the same |
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dcook |
Are you importing items at all? |
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dcook |
If my marc has no item data, then it usually works |
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dcook |
Yep, 5.20.1 |
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Joubu |
no, I did not import items |
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dcook |
Hmm, I'm not sure then :/ |
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dcook |
I don't do it often enough to say |
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Joubu |
it works on sandboxes with master and perl 5.14 |
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cait |
morning #koha |
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magnuse |
kia ora cait |
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dcook |
cdickinphone: Well, I'm still here now because I was on the phone with my health insurance people |
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dcook |
But before that, I think it was about an hour of just working late for clients |
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dcook |
Mostly because I actually care more than I am paid to care :P |
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dcook |
Joubu: If you add me to a bug, I will take a look when I can |
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dcook |
Out of the office all next week working on non-Koha stuff though.. |
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dcook |
Night all. See you in a week or so :) |
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morning |
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ashimema |
dbic-migration = awesome |
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magnuse |
yay? |
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ashimema |
just a random comment.. |
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ashimema |
it is very clever. |
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magnuse |
kia ora atheia |
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atheia |
hei magnuse! |
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magnuse |
atheia: do you plan/hope to get the ill stuff into 3.20, or are you not thinking about that? |
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magnuse |
just curious... |
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atheia |
magnuse: hmm, tbh, not quite thinking about that yet. We're now at a stage where we're starting to use it for some of our customers. |
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ashimema |
poor atheia's fingers must be on fire the patches that are flying in for ill |
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atheia |
but there's still some work to be done for providing a backend agnostic interface in order to push clean patch sets into community. |
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atheia |
I'm starting to have a pretty good schema for this work in my head though :-) |
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magnuse |
atheia: no worries, just curious about your plans and timeframe :-) |
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magnuse |
sounds good |
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ashimema |
I'm thinking we add a github milestone 'ILL - Submit to community' atheia |
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atheia |
k, I think I'll put some time into updating the RFC and bug with some additional info next week. |
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atheia |
ashimema: Yeah, I think that's a nice idea. I'll get on that. |
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magnuse |
excellent |
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ashimema |
then lump all the issues related to making it submission worthy into there.. that way we can track whats left (and maybe even encourage the QA team from here to add to the issues pile |
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ashimema |
(and even better submit some pull requests for said issues ;) ) |
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atheia |
sounds good :-) |
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ashimema |
I know some people here have issues again github.. but you have to admit it's workflow for encouraging contributions and communication is actually pretty sweat |
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ashimema |
where did cait go? |
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khall |
mornin all! |
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kivilahtio |
@later tell tcohen that "I am sorry but I cannot take part in that discussion about 13611 now, I am too busy. I don't remember the answer outright" |
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kivilahtio: The operation succeeded. |
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cait |
to lunch :) |
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cait |
what's up? |
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cait |
reading back |
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kivilahtio |
stuff is up |
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kivilahtio |
just came from a foreman social skills training lecture |
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kivilahtio |
nice change |
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cait |
bug 13611 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13611 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Pushed to Master , Serial enumeration not visible in the opac-user.pl when browsing own holds. |
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khall |
cait: for the life of me, I cannot reproduce bug 13957 on master! |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13957 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Patron autocomplete shows NULL in list of results |
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barton |
got this from #perl on google+ : http://devblog.nestoria.com/po[…]nes-for-dead-code |
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cait |
khall: hm ican :) did you try users without country and some of the other fields shown? |
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khall |
I tried without country, I'll try some other combinations |
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cait |
i saw it just yesterday i think |
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khall |
cait: not matter what fields I empty, I can't reproduce! http://screencast.com/t/0K0gy0X7LNM |
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khall |
I left state and zip out in this example |
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khall |
I've left them all empty as well, and still no 'null's |
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khall |
I've tested it in chrome and firefox |
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cait |
khall: funny hm |
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cait |
i can check again tonight - could it be versions or something else weird? |
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khall |
maybe |
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ashimema |
tombstoning is brilliant barton.. nice |
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cait |
khall: there is another patch from Joubu about a similar thing in acq |
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cait |
bug 10388 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10388 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , acq edited items showing 'null's |
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cait |
would be interesting fi you see those nulls |
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barton |
ashimema: yeah, that's definitely something that we could use. I think that having the stack trace in the tombstone log is especially nice -- it allows you to root out the calling code with a minimum amount of fuss and muss. |
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ashimema |
yeah.. looks great.. |
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ashimema |
I'de vote for it ;) |
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ashimema |
tombstone everything :) |
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cait |
khall: hm, could it be a difference if you have a new user with null in the database vs. one with ""? |
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khall |
hmm, cait, let me try that. Maybe my new users have empty values and not null values |
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ashimema |
barton: though we'de probably want to somehow tie it into some centralised tracking.. |
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ashimema |
HEA? |
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wahanui |
HEA is, like, coming (see hea.koha-community.org) |
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ashimema |
which would appear to be dead righ tnow :( |
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ashimema |
Joubu? |
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wahanui |
hmmm... Joubu is not sure how to fix that correctly |
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Joubu |
ashimema: yes, I pinged our sysop this morning |
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ashimema |
:) |
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ashimema |
coolios.. |
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barton |
ashimema: HEA would make a lot of sense, as long as it didn't get in the way... the tombstones should be *incredibly* light weight. It might make sense to buffer them, then write the buffer to HEA every few minutes. |
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ashimema |
seems sensible barton.. |
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ashimema |
at the moment HEA relies on a cron job.. it's not instant anyways.. |
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ashimema |
so.. buffering would make sense |
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ashimema |
This is in fact a big reason HEA was created.. to track unused 'stuffs'.. so initially it's all about the sysprefs.. but I don't see why it couldn't be expanded to work with tombstoning.. I like the idea. |
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ashimema |
give people a powerful reason to opt in too... 'if you don't, a piece of code you rely on may be deprecated at short notice' ;) |
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cait |
ok, ig ot lost... |
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cait |
what is tombstoning? |
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wahanui |
tombstoning is brilliant barton.. nice |
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ashimema |
cait: http://devblog.nestoria.com/po[…]nes-for-dead-code |
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ashimema |
the two minute video is enough to explain it. |
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barton |
cait: see http://devblog.nestoria.com/po[…]nes-for-dead-code ... it's a way of finding dead code. |
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Joubu |
ashimema: hea up again |
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ashimema: there are some memory leaks :-/ |
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ashimema |
coolios.. |
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ashimema |
well.. coolios it's up.. not so good there are leask ;) |
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ashimema |
hey Joubu.. does hea show UsageStatsLibraryName or UsageStatsLibraryUrl anywhere in the ui yet.. |
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ashimema |
I'm nto seeing it.. |
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ashimema |
just wanted to check out instances are sending you the data.. ;) |
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ashimema |
we have at least 3 3.18.05.1's sending data.. |
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ashimema |
but I can't see them on the hea site |
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Joubu |
ashimema: when have them upload the data? |
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ashimema |
some time ago I set it running.. |
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ashimema |
I've upgraded koha a few time since |
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ashimema |
does HEA not keep track? |
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Joubu |
ashimema: pm |
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misilot |
are emails sent when holds are canceled? |
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cait |
misilot: nope |
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misilot |
thanks cait :) |
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Joubu |
khall: bug 6007 should have been QAed before bug 1487 :) That's why you got the js error |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6007 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Checking 'Display only used Tags/Subfields' on MARC framework page results in unusable output |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1487 enhancement, P3, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Set only the used fields/subfields |
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khall |
ahh, thanks Joubu! I totally missed that! |
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khall |
will do! |
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khall: np, thanks for the qa! |
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gaetan_B |
bye! |
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Joubu |
have a good week end #koha |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13866: Columns configuration - Patrons search <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ce1e4926711e0378b> / Bug 13372: Sort is done by DataTables <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]19a1ac06a669b944b> / Bug 13372: Items lost report improvements <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f;h=03382a089df2e |
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ashimema: khall left a later for me this morning about looking at the zebra profilePath stuff. I'm up to my eyeballs trying to integrate Koha and VuFind in an LDAP environment, but it is on my radar. |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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mtompset |
BobB: You're welcome. |
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mtompset |
@seen BobB |
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mtompset: BobB was last seen in #koha 14 hours, 45 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: <BobB> I'll have to speak to my boss about that :) |
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mtompset |
@later tell BobB You're welcome. |
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Have a great weekend, #koha |
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