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wizzyrea |
bad coffee? |
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dcook |
Yep |
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dcook |
There's always a joke or a second or two spent on a character going "Bleck, this coffee is terrible" and they throw it out |
| 00:22 |
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dcook |
Or... I just noticed with all the shows I watched around a given time period :p |
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dcook |
Of course I only have 3 examples off the top of my head... |
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dcook |
Ghost in the Shell, Lost Girl, and Seinfeld. |
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wizzyrea |
oh I thought you were making a sly joke about java. |
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dcook |
But I'm sure it's in other places |
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dcook |
Nah, that was the one about it being full of beans |
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dcook |
I've definitely had a few "Bleck, this Java is terrible" moments though |
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dcook |
Of course, feeling like I'm freezing really probably indicates that I should've stayed in bed this morning... |
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pianohacker |
oh jeez I'm still logged in |
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wizzyrea |
no you're not |
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mtompset |
dcook++ # decent Java sarcastic humour. :) |
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mtompset |
Greetings, dcook wizzyrea. :) |
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jcamins_ |
Wow. Rakuten bought OverDrive. |
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dcook |
Apparently they own kobo too. That's neat. |
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schnydszch |
hi! were trying out RFID in our institution, can somebody try to telnet to our server: telnet 54.169.225.223 6001 |
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schnydszch |
im trying it out from another server I'm getting v" |
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schnydszch |
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused |
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mtompset |
Same problem, schnydszch |
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paxed |
blah. |
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paxed |
why doesn't koha have a table that contains the extracted biblioitem marcxml, split into separate fields. |
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magnuse |
paxed: because noone felt the need for it strongly enough? |
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magnuse |
bonjour laurence - someone needs to give the server that runs http://www.biblibre.com/ a kick :-) |
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laurence |
helle magnuse |
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laurence |
oulà |
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laurence |
thanks |
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magnuse |
my pleasure :-) |
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mtompset |
Have a great day, #koha schnydszch paxed magnuse laurence. :) |
| 07:27 |
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magnuse |
friday? |
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wahanui |
somebody said friday was pizzaday |
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magnuse |
woohoo! |
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drojf |
morning |
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magnuse |
moin drojf |
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drojf |
hei magnuse |
| 07:40 |
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magnuse |
happy spring equinox, #koha! |
| 07:40 |
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magnuse |
as of today i have more sunlight than y'all - mohahahah! |
| 07:40 |
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magnuse |
and there is a solar eclipse! |
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drojf |
and there are no protecting glasses available anywhere |
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drojf |
at least in berlin and a lot of germany |
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magnuse |
:-( |
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magnuse |
we bought some a couple of years ago, but we have no idea where they are after we moved last year... |
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drojf |
school kids are locked inside because schools are too stupid to buy such things ahead of time and hand them out |
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drojf |
and the optometrists said they don't care, they want to make real money with real glasses |
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magnuse |
wow |
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drojf |
they sold them on ebay for a few hundred euro in the end. they are usually like… 2€? |
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magnuse |
ouch |
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alex_a |
hello |
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reiveune |
hello |
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magnuse |
drojf: it looks quite easy to make an eclipse-viewer from a cardboard box and some aluminum foil... |
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magnuse |
http://www.timeanddate.com/ecl[…]le-projector.html |
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paxed |
magnuse: imo, mysql xml handling is so bad, it makes impossible to write proper sql reports... |
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drojf |
magnuse: yeah. but then it's probably more exciting to just watch it online ;) |
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Joubu |
Hello #koha |
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Joubu |
drojf: same here in UK and in France... |
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drojf |
hi Joubu |
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drojf |
:/ |
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codavid |
Bonjour |
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wahanui |
kia ora, codavid |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
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magnuse |
bonojur gaetan_B |
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fridolin |
hie all |
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cait |
who else is watching the sun with special glasses? |
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drojf |
if you give me a pair… |
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magnuse |
i'm gonna try the trick with a cardboard box and aluminum foil |
| 09:06 |
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cait |
don't hurt your eyes! |
| 09:06 |
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cait |
some of the coworkers brought in the old glasses from 2009, taking turns here :) |
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magnuse |
yay |
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cait |
someone eats the sun! |
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drojf |
magnuse: using the front camera of my smartphone while turned away (filming the sun behind me and looking at the display) works a little better than the camera obscura |
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cait |
really looks funny |
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kivilahtio |
jcamins: so what does it mean? |
| 09:30 |
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kivilahtio |
Rakuten buying OverDrive |
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kivilahtio |
http://rogerpacker.com/blog/ne[…]invisible-indies/ |
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mveron |
Hi #koha |
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nlegrand |
Hey #koha |
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cait |
hi nlegrand :) |
| 10:22 |
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cait |
kivilahtio: did you watch the solar eclipse? |
| 10:23 |
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kivilahtio |
cait: nope |
| 10:23 |
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kivilahtio |
cait: It is happening as we speak |
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kivilahtio |
cait: the color of the world is a bit off |
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cait |
aah it's already over here |
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cait |
it got not quite dark, but noticeably darker |
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nlegrand |
o/ cait |
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cait |
:) |
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mveron |
cait: We have to wait until the year 2081 until it gets really dark... :-) |
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kivilahtio |
I will turn 94 that year |
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kivilahtio |
bring it on |
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mveron |
kivilahtio: 2021 then, a partial one... |
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kivilahtio |
I wonder what would happen if earth was 8 minutes without sun |
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cait |
102 :) |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
or 98? |
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wahanui |
rumour has it 98 is better than ME |
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cait |
my math is broken |
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cait |
lol wahanui |
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mveron |
126... Hmmm... |
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khall |
mornin #koha! |
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mveron |
Hi khall |
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magnuse |
108... |
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* cait |
waves |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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cait |
tcohen1: ? |
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tcohen |
hi |
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wahanui |
what's up, tcohen |
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kivilahtio |
Wanna go out with me wahanui? |
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kivilahtio |
wahanui: do you like flowers? |
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wahanui |
i haven't a clue, kivilahtio |
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gerundio |
tcohen1, are you around? |
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nengard |
anyone know much about github? |
| 13:46 |
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gerundio |
nengard, not much, but ask away, maybe I can help |
| 13:46 |
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gerundio |
still more of a SVN user myself |
| 13:46 |
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nengard |
https://github.com/Koha-Community/kohadocs - i want to set this up to pull from the official git repo regularly - I found a way to import a git repo but not how to keep it up to date |
| 13:47 |
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nengard |
like the Koha report on github does |
| 13:47 |
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nengard |
https://github.com/Koha-Community/Koha |
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gerundio |
take a look at this http://koha-community.org/get-[…]d/for-developers/ |
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gerundio |
Koha has its own git repository |
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gerundio |
I think Koha's repository @ github is a mirror |
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magnuse |
and i think nengard wants to set up a similar mirror for the docs |
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magnuse |
i think mtj set up the other mirrors |
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nengard |
yes i want to set up a mirror |
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magnuse |
no idea how to do it, though |
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nengard |
:( |
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nengard |
I'll have to ask github :) |
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nengard |
and gerundio I am the one who pushes to the git repo for the documentation so I know all about it ;) |
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gerundio |
tcohen, I got a response from EBSCO's team regarding that Z39.50 server issue you helped me with yesterday |
| 14:00 |
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gerundio |
"Unfortunately, we do not support the UNIMARC format for Real Time Availability Checking. We do support the USMARC or OPAC formats. The USMARC format was used previously in a working configuration of RTAC for your EDS Custom Catalog. Could you change the format in your z39.50 server to either the USMARC or OPAC format?" |
| 14:01 |
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gerundio |
if our Koha installation is setup using UNIMARC can I simply publish the Z39.50 server with USMARC or OPAC format? |
| 14:02 |
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cait |
huh, and they said it worked previously? |
| 14:02 |
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cait |
it hink they might have used USMARC - but the data still was unimarc |
| 14:02 |
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cait |
thre is no automatic conversion |
| 14:02 |
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gerundio |
so basically what they're asking is not possible, right? |
| 14:03 |
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cait |
hm the confusing bit is that they said it worked before |
| 14:04 |
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gerundio |
cait, I'll try to give some context without going into excessive detail |
| 14:05 |
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cait |
makes it sound more like a communication problem - if they worked successfully with your data beofre |
| 14:05 |
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gerundio |
about a year ago I was contacted by our library staff saying that we would integrate with EDS |
| 14:05 |
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gerundio |
after a few email exchanges then, I enabled the Z39.50 server on our Koha instance and got an OK from them |
| 14:06 |
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gerundio |
fast forward a year and they say it wasn't working anymore |
| 14:06 |
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cait |
hmmmm |
| 14:06 |
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cait |
so something in our configuration changed maybe? did you update koha in between? |
| 14:06 |
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gerundio |
in the meantime the Z39.50 server had been disabled |
| 14:07 |
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gerundio |
probably when we upgraded Koha from sources to start using debian packages |
| 14:07 |
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gerundio |
I can't point any other possibility as we didn't made any changes to the configurations ever since |
| 14:07 |
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cait |
i think your koha always responded with unimarc data - but it might be that you could have asked for usmarc n the past |
| 14:07 |
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cait |
(still getting unimarc anyway) |
| 14:08 |
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cait |
the rtac service looks at the items? |
| 14:08 |
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cait |
or at the record? |
| 14:08 |
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gerundio |
nevertheless, the Z39.50 settings are now as they were before |
| 14:09 |
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gerundio |
so my thought is exactly as yours, it's been UNIMARC all along |
| 14:09 |
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cait |
that would be my guess as well |
| 14:09 |
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cait |
if they look at the items they are non-standard anyway |
| 14:10 |
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gerundio |
from their explanation regarding RTAC, I'd say it looks into both |
| 14:10 |
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gerundio |
"RTAC stands for Real Time Availability Checking, which is ensuring that the real-time holdings information for a Record is retrieved and displayed in an EDS Custom Catalog. This real-time holdings information is usually contained within a server, often a z39.50 server, which tracks if items are on available, checked out, on loan, etc... As items are physically checked out or returned, the server is updated with current holdings informati |
| 14:10 |
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gerundio |
on. When RTAC functionality is implemented in an EDS Custom Catalog and a Record is loaded and displayed, our servers automatically query the z39.50 server (or other usable server), and display the holdings information returned for that Record." |
| 14:11 |
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cait |
hmmm i'd say only items |
| 14:11 |
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cait |
as long as they can find the record |
| 14:11 |
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cait |
which should work |
| 14:11 |
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gerundio |
they mention mostly records but then they say "tracks if items are on available" |
| 14:11 |
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gerundio |
not clear for me |
| 14:11 |
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cait |
holdings information for a record - i think the dispaly of the recordw ithin ebsco comes from their database |
| 14:12 |
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cait |
hm but not usre |
| 14:12 |
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cait |
how does the ebsco index get updated if they don't support unimarc? |
| 14:12 |
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gerundio |
good question... but I have that doubt myself |
| 14:13 |
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gerundio |
I'm only dealing with the infrastructure part of the process |
| 14:13 |
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cait |
i think maybe give them a call? |
| 14:13 |
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cait |
if possible |
| 14:13 |
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gerundio |
from a few emails that were sent back and forth I saw mentions of data being uploaded to them via FTP |
| 14:13 |
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cait |
i think we can be quite sure that the data hasn't changed - only the way to query it |
| 14:14 |
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gerundio |
so I'd guess that would be the records' information |
| 14:15 |
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magnuse |
there has been some changes to te z39.50 server |
| 14:16 |
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gerundio |
magnuse, what Koha versions were affected by those changes? |
| 14:18 |
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magnuse |
i think it was bug 3087 |
| 14:18 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3087 enhancement, P3, ---, frederic, CLOSED FIXED, Z39.50 server returns usmarc format records for UNIMARC DB |
| 14:18 |
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drojf |
so they used that as a feature? |
| 14:19 |
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magnuse |
could be |
| 14:19 |
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* drojf |
waves |
| 14:19 |
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magnuse |
the changes around this happened around the 3.10 release |
| 14:21 |
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gerundio |
that would explain it |
| 14:21 |
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gerundio |
we started using Koha at version 3.8 |
| 14:21 |
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nengard |
magnuse I found out how to do it - i need to put a hook in the documentation git repo - do you know how I could find the hook that's in the koha repo to copy it? |
| 14:21 |
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nengard |
https://help.github.com/articl[…]t-github-mirrors/ |
| 14:22 |
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gerundio |
and have upgraded in a few iterations to the current 3.18.x |
| 14:24 |
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gerundio |
since there's no way to automagically convert from UNIMARC to USMARC, what is the OPAC format they mention and would that be a possible workaround? |
| 14:25 |
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* magnuse |
never heard of a opac format |
| 14:25 |
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magnuse |
nengard: no idea - it sounds like something that would have to be setup by whoever runs the official koha repos |
| 14:26 |
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nengard |
message to the mailing list it is :) |
| 14:26 |
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magnuse |
oh looky, the git server is run by someone called bywater |
| 14:27 |
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magnuse |
gmcharlt, rangi, baga and chris_n are supposed to have shell access |
| 14:27 |
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magnuse |
baga? huh? |
| 14:28 |
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gmcharlt |
nengard: mirror what where? |
| 14:28 |
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gmcharlt |
(I can help with that, just need coordinates) |
| 14:29 |
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nengard |
gmcharlt just emailed the Koha list ;) |
| 14:29 |
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nengard |
oopsie |
| 14:29 |
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nengard |
mirrors kohadocs git to github |
| 14:29 |
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nengard |
https://github.com/Koha-Community/kohadocs |
| 14:30 |
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gmcharlt |
gotcah |
| 14:30 |
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gmcharlt |
*gotcha |
| 14:30 |
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bag |
gmcharlt: you are on east coast time now? |
| 14:31 |
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gmcharlt |
bag: my body is, my heart and soul are timezone-less |
| 14:31 |
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gmcharlt |
;) |
| 14:31 |
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bag |
HA |
| 14:31 |
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nengard |
:) |
| 14:34 |
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gmcharlt |
nengard: could you line up a commit to push to the docs repo, then push it when I say the word? |
| 14:34 |
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nengard |
sure, give me a sec |
| 14:38 |
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magnuse |
bag: HI |
| 14:38 |
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bag |
good morning magnuse |
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bag |
happy friday |
| 14:38 |
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magnuse |
friday? |
| 14:38 |
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wahanui |
friday is pizzaday |
| 14:38 |
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magnuse |
woohoo! |
| 14:39 |
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nengard |
gmcharlt ready when you are |
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magnuse |
time to wander off and make pizza - have fun #koha! |
| 14:44 |
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nengard |
gmcharlt - letting beau out - brb |
| 14:47 |
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gaetan_B |
was the "hide_marc" system preference ever meant to hide marc numbers when cataloging or did i imagine it? |
| 14:47 |
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gaetan_B |
i think i remember it working this way at a time |
| 14:48 |
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gmcharlt |
gaetan_B: I think your recollection is correct |
| 14:48 |
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gaetan_B |
but it seems to only hide numbers in the marc views |
| 14:48 |
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gaetan_B |
then it might be a bug |
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nengard |
gmcharlt back |
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gaetan_B |
the preference description is sort of acurate though |
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nlegrand |
I'm going to work on Bug 13881, if someone as comments don't hesitate :) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13881 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Add desk management |
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gmcharlt |
nengard: Ill need a few more minutes; I'll ping you when I'm ready for you |
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nengard |
K, I have a webinar in about an hour |
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gmcharlt |
nengard: OK, the mirror is now up to date, and I'm ready for you to try a push |
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nengard |
pushed |
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gmcharlt |
nengard: the "Execure" typo fix? |
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nengard |
yes |
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gmcharlt |
great, it's working |
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nengard |
WOOO HOO |
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nengard |
gmcharlt++ |
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gmcharlt |
nengard++ |
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nengard |
thank you so much |
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nengard |
wow I've done a ton in the manual: 1,657 commits / 884,522 ++ / 831,969 -- |
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Joubu |
gaetan_B: see bug 9366 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9366 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , On cataloguing each user can easily display tags or not |
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Joubu |
gaetan_B: there are pref hide_marc + advancedMARCeditor, and for more fun, a cookie |
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reiveune |
bye |
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schnydszch |
hi all! regarding the RFID thing I posted a while back, changing the ip number in port="127.0.0.1:6001/tcp" to ip address of the server, we were able to telnet to the server. please try it out. |
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gaetan_B |
bye |
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Joubu |
nengard: I answered you on bug 13417, let me know if I am not clear :) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13417 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , New permission to allow staff to remove public lists |
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nengard |
thanks joubu - will look in a second |
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fridolin1 |
see u |
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ashimema |
@later tell cait, have you ever looked at bug 12289 |
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huginn |
ashimema: The operation succeeded. |
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Joubu |
have a good week-end #koha! |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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mtompset |
@seen jcamins |
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huginn |
mtompset: jcamins was last seen in #koha 1 week, 2 days, 5 hours, 22 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: <jcamins> sftp [-1246Cpqrv] [-B buffer_size] [-b batchfile] [-c cipher] [-D sftp_server_path] [-F ssh_config] [-i identity_file] [-l limit] [-o ssh_option] [-P port] [-R num_requests] [-S program] [-s subsystem | sftp_server] host ... |
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mtompset |
I need a library type. :) |
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mtompset |
Asian Synod (1998 : Rome, Italy) |
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mtompset |
If it is 711$a, what should the indicators be? |
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mtompset |
a ha! Idea. Praise the Lord for Z39.50 and the Library of Congress. :) |
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