IRC log for #koha, 2015-01-12

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00:16 jenkins_koha Starting build #31 for job Koha_3.18.x_U14 (previous build: SUCCESS)
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02:33 eythian <-- dcook
02:38 dcook eythian: Damn that's creative!
02:38 * dcook wonders how these people's brains work
02:39 eythian they seem to have done a few
02:39 dcook Seems like it
02:40 dcook It's like 6 talented people in the shower without the water and with a drum kit
02:40 eythian <-- an entertaining Nighwish cover
02:40 eythian though with real drums, but I guess you need that./
02:40 dcook My shower may or may not have heard a few renditions of Fear of the Dark..
02:40 eythian haha
02:40 dcook Yeah, I don't know how they'd do it without the drums
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02:43 dcook Actually, I wonder if they did form after a long road trip...
02:44 eythian I wouldn't be surprised...
02:45 dcook Hmm, I wonder how many times the drummer has made jokes about bandmates...
02:45 * dcook tries to remember how it goes..
02:46 dcook "What do you call someone who hangs around with musicians?"
02:46 dcook A drummer.
02:46 eythian heh
02:46 dcook Oh my, I've stumbled upon a page of drummer jokes now..
02:47 dcook Hmm so much for my electro-indie afternoon. Metal it is...
02:47 dcook I needed something with more energy anyway
02:48 eythian Try Gogol Bordello if you want something sorta weirdly in the middle
02:48 dcook Hmm, might be a bit early in the week for Gogol Bordello
02:48 dcook And a definite lack of red wine
02:49 eythian fair enough
02:49 dcook Although Gogol Bordello live were one of the best concerts I've been to I think
02:49 dcook I'll never understand it... I was in town for a reptile expo, and it just so happened the venue was across from my hotel
02:49 dcook We walked up to see if anyway had spare tickets... went to the counter and got awesome seats in the third row for next to nothing :)
02:49 eythian I'm trying to remember if I've seen them, I don't think I have, but I've started to lose track.
02:50 eythian sweet
02:50 dcook Sadly, I've been able to keep track of everything in recent years :(
02:50 dcook Once upon a time, it was a show a week, but these days... I think I've seen less than a handful of gigs in the past 3 years :(
02:54 eythian[…]n+live&view=cloud <-- I need to spend a bit of time and make that properly up to date
02:55 dcook 2007...
02:55 dcook I think that's when I saw Tool too
02:55 dcook Enjoy the band but it was an awful show :(
02:55 dcook Worst crowd ever..
02:56 dcook Well, not the worst. Just not good.
02:56 dcook That's quite the list!
02:56 dcook Still heartbroken over not seeing Iron Maiden in 2009
02:57 dcook Tickets sold out in less than 30 minutes. I had overslept just barely but I figured I'd have a chance... nope.
02:57 eythian It was pretty good.
02:57 eythian ah, a friend and I booked early.
02:57 dcook Smart move
02:57 eythian and then bussed up to Christchurch for it, I think.
02:57 dcook It would've been local for me :(
02:57 dcook Only minutes from my apartment!
02:57 * dcook is only slightly bitter
02:58 dcook My girlfriend of the time knew a guy who bought tickets for 3 or 4 of their shows
02:58 eythian that's just greedy.
02:58 dcook Flew to the other cities for the shows before they got to our home town
02:58 dcook Agreed
02:58 dcook More money than sense that fellow
02:59 dcook Actually, that was an interesting thing about that show. It was so popular. Enoromously popular.
02:59 dcook I think a lot of people bought tickets because it was marketed so well.
02:59 dcook Which meant that not everyone who went even actually wanted to see it :S
02:59 dcook Ok, I'll stop rambling about how bitter I am about that :p
02:59 dcook Glad that I got my advanced Mogwai tickets at least
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04:27 eythian perl svc/members/upsert 'matchField=cardnumber' 'cardnumber=10002' 'FOO=test' 'firstname=testname'
04:27 eythian so that works now
04:27 eythian mostly, I haven't tested it all
04:27 eythian but it gives you an API to add or update a borrower.
04:28 eythian (i.e. in this case, it updates the user with cardnumber 10002 to have an extended attribute 'FOO' with value 'test' and have a firstname 'testname')
04:28 dcook :D
04:28 dcook upsert?
04:28 eythian :)
04:29 eythian update/insert
04:29 eythian so if the borrower doesn't exist, it's created
04:29 eythian that's the bit I haven't tested yet
04:31 eythian but, I won't have time for that just now.
04:32 dcook I figured it would be update/insert
04:32 dcook That's awesome
04:32 dcook Must be madness for non-English speakers
04:33 eythian quite possibly :)
04:33 eythian anyway, I need to head off to training. Later.
04:34 dcook laters
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06:15 cait eythian: around maybe?
06:15 cait hm too late i guess
06:56 * magnuse waves
06:56 magnuse @wunder boo
06:56 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -8.0°C (7:50 AM CET on January 12, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: -15.0°C. Windchill: -19.0°C. Pressure: 29.24 in 990 hPa (Falling).
06:56 magnuse @wunder rognan, norway
06:56 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in FAUSKE, ved smabathavna., 8200 FAUSKE, Norway is -10.3°C (7:56 AM CET on January 12, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: -16.0°C. Windchill: -18.0°C. Pressure: 29.24 in 990 hPa (Falling).
06:57 magnuse @wunder karasjok
06:57 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Karasjok, Norway is -39.8°C (7:55 AM CET on January 12, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: -43.0°C. Windchill: -40.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Steady).
06:57 magnuse now that is pretty cold
06:57 magnuse @wunder kautokeino
06:58 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in ENONTEKIO, Norway is -37.0°C (8:50 AM EET on January 12, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: -42.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady).
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07:42 * cait waves
07:42 cait @wunder Konstanz
07:43 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 2.2°C (8:40 AM CET on January 12, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Steady).
07:43 cait looks like more rain today, still so dark
07:43 cait bbiab
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07:50 reiveune hello
07:51 ashimema_ morning #koha
07:52 ashimema_ boo, I missed cait
07:52 ashimema_ @wunder stevenage, uk
07:52 huginn ashimema_: The current temperature in Pin Green, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 8.4°C (7:50 AM GMT on January 12, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady).
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07:54 fridolin hie all
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08:01 alex_a bonjour
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08:09 * brian_ slaps ashimema_ around a bit with a large fishbot
08:13 magnuse @wunder karasjok
08:13 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Karasjok, Norway is -39.6°C (9:10 AM CET on January 12, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: -43.0°C. Windchill: -40.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Falling).
08:14 ashimema_ ok.. that was wierd
08:15 ashimema_ morning magnuse
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08:16 ashimema_ morning cait
08:18 cait morning ashimema :)
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08:30 marcelr hi #koha
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08:37 cait hi marcelr
08:40 marcelr :)
08:43 magnuse hiya cait marcelr ashimema_ kivilahtio et al
08:43 marcelr hi magnuse
08:43 kivilahtio ki ora magnuse
08:44 kivilahtio hmmm should i try to make it to the hackfest?
08:44 magnuse hmmm, yes you should
08:44 magnuse :-)
08:44 kivilahtio magnuse: we are planning to visit Oslo sometime next month
08:44 kivilahtio magnuse: so I am notsure how our travel fund allows me to get everywhere
08:45 kivilahtio well... priorize
08:45 kivilahtio I could optimize by flying to Oslo, then sleeping on somebodys couch for a month, then flying to Marseilles
08:45 kivilahtio sounds like  aplan!
08:50 cait hi magnuse hi kivilahtio
08:52 kivilahtio hi cait
08:52 kivilahtio ha everybosdy
08:52 kivilahtio hi wahanui
08:56 Joubu o/
08:58 cait Joubu: are you sure the time won't be given with dt_from_string?
08:58 cait it seems it always returns a datetime objec
08:58 cait t
08:58 cait when we only want a iso formatted date
08:59 Joubu cait: hum? I didn't understand
08:59 Joubu cait: did you see I submited a new patch?
08:59 cait yes
08:59 cait that shoudl fix the problem with the now
08:59 cait wellc urrent date
09:00 cait but i think we only want a date and it will give a datetime
09:00 Joubu h
09:00 Joubu aa
09:01 cait i tried to get it working before work this morning, but coudln't figure out how
09:01 cait thinking ther emust be an easy way to do this... like a best practice
09:02 * Joubu does not understand why it works...
09:02 cait hm think it doesn't
09:02 cait try limiting the filters
09:03 cait it didn't limit correctly when i tried this morning, but didn't explode either
09:03 Joubu cait: with the last patch, it seems to work. But it shouldn't
09:03 ashimema_ Hackfest.. that reminds me, I must ook a hotel
09:04 ashimema_ nd let Paul know we're coming :)
09:04 cait who is we? :)
09:06 ashimema_ So long as my scheming goes to plan, Alex will be about for the whole week, and Colin and I will each be around for 3 days of it.
09:06 ashimema_ though I haven't worked out whether Colin and I should be around at he same time or only overlap for a day
09:07 cait Joubu: i tried limiting to a specific year this morning and it didn't seem to work - the older year was still showing up - do the filters work for you? i changed around some things so not totally sure about my test
09:12 Joubu cait: I will have a look again in a few minutes
09:12 cait np
09:13 cait ... and could you check if accents/diacricits display for you correctly in a vendor showing in french? we see werid things happening there in 3.18 :(
09:17 Joubu cait: acqui/ ?
09:18 cait yep
09:18 cait the problem is, when i checked friday it was ok, today the coworker snt me the link and it's broken
09:18 cait it goes away sometimes
09:18 cait the problem
09:18 wahanui hmmm... the problem is that on order is not treated differently than the other not for loan values
09:18 cait i hate things like this
09:19 cait first the template strings and the data (Bärbel as name for the contact) were broken- now the template strings show ok and only the database data is wrong... i am confused.
09:19 cait /cgi-bin/koha/acqui/
09:20 Joubu cait: it's broken here too
09:20 Joubu B�rbel
09:20 cait filing a slightly confused bug, sec
09:21 cait and thx for checking!
09:22 Joubu cait: it's a known bug
09:22 Joubu that's the main reason we need 11944...
09:22 cait do you know if there is a bug already?
09:23 Joubu you need to escape the string with the html_entity TT filter in the template
09:23 cait i filed bug 13555
09:23 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13555 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Encoding problems on the vendor summary and edit pages
09:24 cait maybe we just ran into it now because we have been using mostly 3.12 so far
09:24 cait we are currently testing 3.18
09:25 Joubu Actually, the known bug is that we sent an object to the template, and C4::Templates does not encode correctly data contained in objects
09:26 Joubu cait: so the bug should exist since bug 10402 is pushed
09:26 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10402 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Add multiple contacts for vendors
09:27 cait hm can't verify, but it might be
09:28 ashimema_ bye #koha
09:28 ashimema hello #koha
09:28 Joubu lol
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09:36 grharry Hello! Anybody using CAS  for authentication out there ??
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09:49 ashimema matts about ^
09:50 ashimema matts ignore that.. he's gone before he got an answer
09:50 matts maybe he'll come back :)
09:52 ashimema perhaps
09:53 cait phone conf bbl
10:00 kivilahtio do we have a regret-button for item deletion? Librarians are reporting missing Items, but they seem to be simply deleted items. Culdn't find a bugzilal entry for "undoing item deletion"?
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10:03 kivilahtio Also is tehre a feature to automatically show all results in the databasles?
10:04 Joubu kivilahtio: "undo item deletion": I don't think so
10:04 kivilahtio It would be nice if I wouldn't have to always select Show All Fields in the DT.
10:04 kivilahtio it is actualyl really annoying :(
10:05 Joubu There is nothing to show all results in a table (could be easy to do, but you certainly don't want to show all results for all tables)
10:05 kivilahtio why not? Datatables receives all the data at once
10:05 Joubu kivilahtio: did you try to do it using JS?
10:05 kivilahtio nope
10:05 kivilahtio Joubu: I guess I could add a staff client javascript snippet
10:05 Joubu kivilahtio: not for all tables, some tables use ajax
10:05 kivilahtio Joubu, hmm, ok
10:07 Joubu kivilahtio: you can have a look at js/datatables.js
10:07 Joubu l.~28
10:07 kivilahtio Joubu: thanks
10:07 Joubu "iDisplayLength": 20
10:07 Joubu try -1, but be careful for tables retrieving data in ajax (patrons search for instance)
10:08 kivilahtio Joubu: ok, we are still using 3.16.4
10:08 kivilahtio Joubu: but will keep it in mind, maybe I'll just set it to 100
10:08 kivilahtio Joubu: shoudln't make any difference regarding patron search
10:08 kivilahtio Joubu: unless it finds each patron one by one :)
10:09 kivilahtio Also I could use the column sorting more
10:09 kivilahtio I always forget it :(
10:11 Joubu kivilahtio: it will retrieve 100 patron data, instead of 20 :)
10:11 kivilahtio Joubu: are you coming to the hackfest?
10:11 Joubu kivilahtio: yes, of course
10:11 kivilahtio nice
10:11 kivilahtio I am still meditationg on it
10:11 Joubu you should come :)
10:11 kivilahtio I have a gut feeling management doen'st share my enthusiasm
10:11 Joubu at least for the cheeses
10:12 kivilahtio I cant eat cheese
10:12 Joubu too bad
10:12 kivilahtio not really
10:12 Joubu So not sure you have a good reason to come :p
10:13 magnuse marseille sans le fromage? noooo
10:13 kivilahtio magnuse: milk is murder.. sorry guys
10:15 kivilahtio Joubu: I think I'll find something
10:31 magnuse ah milk-less cheese? we do have that, but it can't legally be called cheese
10:31 kivilahtio magnuse: I agree
10:31 kivilahtio magnuse: and why should it? THere is a great pizzeria here, it's called "Roihu", they have the bestest dairy-free cheese
10:32 kivilahtio magnuse: I guess it is simply because of habits that chesse is called chesse.
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11:07 ashimema we don't already track the client (i.e. machine) used to loging to the staff client at any point do we?
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11:16 ashimema OK, another stupid question here.. especially as I should really know..
11:16 kivilahtio ashimema: we do
11:16 kivilahtio ashimema: check the session-table
11:16 ashimema why do we have both a user session, and a user env, and when should we use one or the other for what
11:16 kivilahtio ashimema: it is a crazy mess but I think the data is there
11:17 ashimema cheers kivi.. I had a feeling that 'might' be the case
11:17 kivilahtio ashimema: cheers yourself! Cook something cool with it!
11:19 ashimema that looks like it just records the IP rather than anything more specific to me..
11:19 ashimema I need somthing that ties more directly to a machine than an IP which is often a full subnet of machines ;)
11:33 kivilahtio ashimema: no port?
11:33 ashimema not that I can see
11:37 ashimema Hmm.. think I'll add a cookie, or localStorage to give a client a unique ID (and make it optional)
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12:25 tcohen morning
12:26 magnuse kia ora tcohen
12:27 marcelr hi tcohen
12:27 magnuse @wunder boo
12:27 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -9.0°C (1:20 PM CET on January 12, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: -15.0°C. Windchill: -22.0°C. Pressure: 29.15 in 987 hPa (Steady).
12:27 * magnuse moves to right in front of the fireplace
12:27 tcohen @wunder cordoba argentina
12:27 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 27.6°C (9:25 AM ART on January 12, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.84 in 1010 hPa (Rising).
12:28 tcohen @wunder SACO
12:28 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba Aerodrome, Argentina is 24.0°C (9:00 AM ART on January 12, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 29.84 in 1010 hPa (Rising).
12:29 magnuse @wunder karasjok
12:29 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Karasjok, Norway is -37.9°C (1:25 PM CET on January 12, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: -42.0°C. Windchill: -38.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady).
12:29 marcelr did you move?
12:30 magnuse nope, luckily :-)
12:30 magnuse it's just one of the coldest places in norway right now
12:31 kivilahtio ashimema: how about the CGISESSID. It is already unique regardless if the IP/port
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12:32 magnuse hm, someone asked me to look at an indexing problem. i'm seeing "11:45:49-12/01 zebraidx(14570) [warn] Couldn't open collection.abs [No such file or directory]" which looks similar to bug 13396
12:32 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13396 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , koha-rebuild-zebra: Couldn't open collection.abs error after 3.18 package update
12:33 magnuse but i'm also getting "11:56:10-12/01 zebraidx(14570) [fatal] Out of memory - malloc (302080000 bytes)"
12:33 magnuse this is after a package upgrade to 3.18.2
12:34 magnuse there's ~80k records and 6GB memory, so that shouldn't really be a problem
12:34 magnuse anyone got an inkling abut what that last error might be?
12:35 tcohen magnuse: IO problems?
12:38 magnuse hm, found an email that suggests setting zebra_bib_index_mode = zebra_auth_index_mode = grs1 (i had it set to "dom"). trying that now
12:38 magnuse tcohen: possibly?
12:39 tcohen it is some misconfiguration on the files, carried between updates
12:39 tcohen you should try those two settings match your actual configuration
12:39 tcohen but it doesnt make sense, because it is a zebra error
12:40 tcohen well... those two are used by
12:40 tcohen what does the about page say?
12:40 magnuse tcohen: wht do you mean by "actual configuration"?
12:40 magnuse let me check
12:41 tcohen what koha-conf.xml points authorityserver and biblioserver to
12:41 tcohen if it was my own problem, I'd just recreate the instances with DOM and load the DB on it
12:43 magnuse ah, yes i better have a good look at koha-conf.xml
12:44 magnuse it's not my server, so i don't want to be too drastic :-)
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12:51 jcamins magnuse: sounds like an upgrade from a pretty old version?
12:51 jcamins 3.6ish, maybe?
12:52 jcamins magnuse: there's a RAM limit that we increased at some point.
12:53 magnuse nah, i think it was from from 3.16, or maybe .14. definitely not as far back as 3.6
12:53 jcamins In that case, sounds like you have a weird record.
12:53 jcamins And, of course, you're indexing with DOM but exporting as GRS-1 or vice versa.
12:53 jcamins The weirdness of the record may go away when you fix that.
12:54 magnuse register: /var/lib/koha/zebradb/biblios/register:20G
12:54 magnuse shadow: /var/lib/koha/zebradb/biblios/shadow:20G
12:55 jcamins That's disk space.
12:55 jcamins I think what you want is toward the bottom.
12:55 magnuse setting zebra_bib_index_mode = zebra_auth_index_mode = grs1 "fixed", meaning no errors and search works again
12:55 jcamins memMax
12:55 magnuse memMax: 50M
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12:55 jcamins Okay, so it was just seeming weird because it was exported for the wrong format.
12:56 magnuse probably :-)
12:56 magnuse so does this mean there is a major problem with the upgrade to 3.18.x?
12:56 magnuse at least for users coming from grs1?
12:56 ashimema kivilahtio: CGISESSID is session specific.. I want machine specific across sessions ;)  i.e. one user can logout, and then another one login on the same machine.. but they should both get the same machine ID tracked between logins..
12:57 ashimema CGISESSID wouldn't do that ;)
12:57 jcamins magnuse: a bit of a problem, yeah.
12:57 kivilahtio ashimema: That sound like evil
12:57 ashimema it's so I can persistently link a computer to a 'till' for our cash management work.. and may have some other uses later if people like it ;)
12:57 kivilahtio ashimema: Google isn't evil :)
12:58 * magnuse suspects ashimema of being hired by the fbi
12:58 ashimema i'm writing the stuff now..
12:58 kivilahtio ashimema: what about the user who constantly clears his browser cookie cache?
12:58 ashimema different here will be it's staff client only, and optional..
12:58 ashimema FBI would want to trakc the enitre world for everything..
12:58 magnuse :-)
12:58 kivilahtio Now I know why we have this new feature in Koha which collect "anonymous" usage statistics from all Kohalibraries
12:58 ashimema also. there's intentionally going to be no link between a user and a machine in this context..
12:59 ashimema as much as I can obfuscate that of course
12:59 kivilahtio ashimema: I am calling the cops
12:59 ashimema haha
12:59 kivilahtio :)
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12:59 kivilahtio gotta go get some lunch
12:59 kivilahtio before I reindex the WHOLE DB
12:59 ashimema yup.. there is indeed that user who clears they're cookies all the time.. for them, the 'convenience' of not having to select a 'till' at every login will be lost ;)
13:00 ashimema but that's their own fault.. i'm trying to not be too intrusive..
13:00 kivilahtio ashimema: I see
13:00 kivilahtio ashimema: what is a 'till'
13:00 ashimema and yeah.. staff client only.. really a staff member should always assume they're being monitored at work ;)
13:00 kivilahtio ashimema: I agree, we should be monitored
13:00 ashimema a till in this case is the place you collect monies throughout the day.
13:00 kivilahtio w eare getting paid to do our work after all
13:01 ashimema haha.
13:01 kivilahtio ashimema: like the cash register?
13:01 kivilahtio atleast i am
13:01 ashimema yup.. cash register, box under the desk, staffs memeber pocket..
13:01 ashimema whereever you keep the money ;)
13:01 ashimema s/staffs memeber/staff members/
13:02 ashimema it's for allowing a cash up at the end of the day ;)
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13:02 ashimema i.e patron x paid some money in today.. now where on earth did that money end up ;)
13:02 kivilahtio ashimema: I understand
13:03 kivilahtio ashimema: we solved this by simply collecting all the money to one place, and than splitting it based on the capita
13:03 kivilahtio ashimema: But you can tell from the action_logs/statistics -tables where the money was paid and for what purpose?
13:03 ashimema but such a cookie could also be used to increase staff client security (in a similar sort of way to the IP restrictions stuff).. i.e. the StaffClientID cookie must be present to allow a staff session to auth at all
13:04 kivilahtio lunch
13:04 ashimema the action_logs still don't give you a reliable physical location
13:04 ashimema ;)
13:04 ashimema just a staff member and which session they took the transaction in.. as far as I know at least..
13:05 ashimema so if said staff member hot desks.. they may forget which till they attributed the money to before and after lunch.. if they're silly that is ;)
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13:22 marcelr Joubu: we talked about the dashboard recently: why is bug 8994 not listed with the oldest 10? note that its last status change is 2013-10-28. If the reason is that it is an enhancement, I think we should remove the filter on bugfix ?
13:22 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8994 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Make FindDuplicateAuthority behaviour customizable
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13:34 magnuse marcelr: i think you can send rangi a pull request?
13:35 marcelr yeah probably; discussing it first
13:36 magnuse
13:36 magnuse cool
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13:44 cait marcelr: i had asked rangi btw - he said it's always the oldest from change date - but I think it's not quite all to it
13:44 cait maybe resticted to bugs first?
13:45 marcelr i think we should see them all: bugfix and enhs and new features
13:45 marcelr oldest first
13:48 cait i am ok with bugs first, but showing enh too
13:49 cait but i think it does that, just th elogic is not totally clear to me
13:49 marcelr cait: SELECT bugs.bug_id,short_desc FROM bugs WHERE bug_status ='Needs Signoff' and bug_severity <> 'enhancement' and bug_severity <> 'new feature' ORDER by lastdiffed limit 10;
13:49 marcelr it removes enh and new feat; not sure what lastdiffed is
13:49 marcelr could be different from lastchange
13:49 cait ah
13:50 cait that's the needs signoff?
13:50 marcelr yes
13:50 marcelr from the code
13:56 ashimema ack.. is that really the time..
13:56 ashimema no wonder i'm really hungry
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14:00 magnuse ashimema: lunchtime?
14:00 wahanui it has been said that lunchtime is a terrible time for a meeting
14:01 magnuse indeed it is
14:11 tcohen khall: is it possible that you added the QA followup but forgot to sign+pass-qa on bug 13404?
14:11 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13404 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Signed Off , More »System information« about GRS1 vs DOM settings
14:12 khall I filed to the followup to correct some koha-qa issues, but felt I was unable to test the patches properly in order to sign them
14:12 tcohen oh, ok
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14:22 magnuse kia ora nengard
14:22 nengard hola magnuse
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14:36 gerundio hi all
14:37 gerundio just got a request regarding setting up a koha installation for EBSCO's EDS
14:38 gerundio just read some info about it from the April 2014 newsletter at[…]april-2014/#ebsco
14:38 gerundio and some more from
14:39 gerundio somewhere in the github plugin page it reads: "use Patches folder to patch core Koha files and get greater integration."
14:39 gerundio "patch Koha files" sounds bad
14:39 gerundio any thoughts on this?
14:54 cait gerundio: sorry, we are not using it
14:54 cait ashimema: might know
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15:31 gerundio cait, nevertheless, patching koha core files is always a bad principle, right?
15:38 Joubu gerundio: yes
15:38 Joubu Actually it depends what you patch
15:39 Joubu if you have the ressources to maintain your own fork, you can do it
15:39 gerundio they do refer "and get greater integration", so I read it as it also works to some extent without the core patches
15:48 cait Joubu: do you think it would be hard to allow a library to choose the on-site checkout due date?
15:50 Joubu cait: What is the workflow? To reserve a on-site checkout?
15:51 cait i have a library interested in the feature - but they store the items longer than a day for the users to use in the reading room
15:51 cait they have a special shelf
15:51 cait so you can come back and continue working with the materials
15:51 ashimema it does indeed work to a decent extent without additional modifcation..
15:52 ashimema there are also patches in koha now to prevent the need to modifying additional bits I beleive..
15:52 ashimema a colegue of mine does the implimentations of this though.. so I'm not exactly sure of the current state of affairs
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15:58 cait Joubu: i treid cheating by entering another date in the form... but it still calculates for the next day, so it's not that easy :)
15:58 cait i will file an enh request for them, maybe i will get to take a deeper look
16:04 Joubu cait: it should be too difficult to do, but yes you cannot cheat :)
16:04 cait mean Joubu - made it so i can't cheat! :)
16:04 Joubu cait: have a look at circ/ l.163-165
16:05 reiveune bye
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16:05 Joubu the date is recalculated in the pl script if the onsite is checked
16:05 cait working through notes from the phone conf today, will try to later!
16:05 cait ah
16:05 cait more date magic... seems it's my fate
16:06 Joubu cait: actually, maybe this check could be removed, and keep the date filled by the user
16:07 Joubu cait: in summary, not difficult, but not trivial :)
16:08 cait should it be optional?
16:10 Joubu I don't know, I would say no
16:11 cait ah, thought it might have been a requirement
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16:46 ashimema ack.. we do full page reloads far too often :(
16:46 * ashimema again feels a need to get an angular patch in.
16:46 cait hm question: the new item search uses sql, right?
16:48 cait i can#t get it to work so it finds lost statuses :(
16:49 cait i configured it in administration for 952 1 with pull down LOST
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17:11 cait Joubu: still around?
17:11 cait you shouldn# be.. but who knows :)
17:16 Joubu cait: yep
17:16 cait ah, trying to figure out the item search form
17:17 cait bug 13562
17:17 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13562 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Item search: Not possible to add other search fields from 952?
17:18 Joubu cait: do you think it's a bug?
17:18 cait it's hard to tell
17:18 Joubu cait: quite late now, I will take a look tomorrow :)
17:18 cait there is no help
17:18 cait that's alright :)
17:18 Joubu at least to know if it's a bug or not
17:18 cait yep
17:19 cait i will change it to an enh request if you have proof it's nt a bug ;)
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18:17 bag morning
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18:41 francharb Hello all
18:41 francharb Belated happy new year
18:43 francharb Is there a wiki page to know which status I should use when signing off? I worked on two patches, I have questions about them, which status should I use? "In discussion" ?
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19:38 tcohen @seen paul_p
19:38 huginn tcohen: paul_p was last seen in #koha 4 days, 5 hours, 24 minutes, and 2 seconds ago: <paul_p> tcohen = it worked
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19:52 wizzyrea in discussion is fine
19:53 rangi if people are interested #kohaacademy is where the students will be hanging out
19:55 tcohen rangi: cool
19:55 cait cool :)
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20:29 rangi this is the main koha channel
20:29 rangi there are a couple of bots in here that are helpful
20:29 rangi and some that arent
20:29 rangi rangi?
20:29 brandon yum
20:29 wizzyrea @quote get 123
20:29 wahanui
20:29 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
20:30 cait tcohen?
20:30 wahanui i think tcohen is obsessed with packages' scripts
20:30 wizzyrea cait?
20:30 wahanui i heard cait was from germany. Ask me about germany.
20:30 cait @wunder Konstanz
20:30 rangi bug 7143
20:30 wahanui i guess bug 7143 is ready for an easy signoff
20:30 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 1.1°C (9:25 PM CET on January 12, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Falling).
20:30 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Bug for tracking changes to the about page
20:30 wizzyrea germany?
20:30 wahanui somebody said germany was where germs come from. Ask me about germs.
20:30 wizzyrea germs?
20:30 wahanui germs is
20:30 wizzyrea hehe hadn't gone down that particular path before.
20:30 wizzyrea wizzyrea?
20:30 wahanui you are silly
20:30 wizzyrea true.
20:30 cait @eightball will we get snow tomorrow?
20:30 huginn cait: You know the answer better than I.
20:31 wizzyrea wizzyrea?
20:31 wahanui hmmm... wizzyrea is silly
20:31 cait eythian?
20:31 wahanui i guess eythian is Time's Person of the Year for 2006.
20:31 anonymous internet?
20:31 wahanui internet is not working here properly... I may disappear
20:37 cait @marc 245
20:37 huginn cait: The title and statement of responsibility area of the bibliographic description of a work. [a,b,c,f,g,h,k,n,p,s,6,8]
20:38 cait tcohen: no success with running the tests at all :(
20:38 cait tried on top of the utf-8 patches and only with the tests
20:40 anonymous fun?
20:40 wahanui hmmm... fun is over, i'm switching back to drojf's usual tl:dr behaviour
20:40 anonymous wahanui?
20:40 wahanui anonymous?
20:40 anonymous stop?
20:41 anonymous go?
20:41 anonymous wahanui?
20:41 wahanui anonymous?
20:41 anonymous hello?
20:55 tcohen KOHA_USER=kohaadmin KOHA_PASS=katikoan KOHA_INTRANET_URL=http://koha-dev.biblioadmin KOHA_OPAC_URL=http://koha-dev.biblio prove -v t/db_dependent/www/auth_values_input_www.t
20:55 tcohen run it like that

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