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Starting build #31 for job Koha_3.18.x_U14 (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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eythian |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyHcIHssdHA <-- dcook |
| 02:38 |
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dcook |
eythian: Damn that's creative! |
| 02:38 |
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* dcook |
wonders how these people's brains work |
| 02:39 |
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eythian |
they seem to have done a few |
| 02:39 |
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dcook |
Seems like it |
| 02:40 |
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dcook |
It's like 6 talented people in the shower without the water and with a drum kit |
| 02:40 |
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eythian |
http://youtu.be/XCGQiGEYl4Y <-- an entertaining Nighwish cover |
| 02:40 |
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eythian |
though with real drums, but I guess you need that./ |
| 02:40 |
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dcook |
My shower may or may not have heard a few renditions of Fear of the Dark.. |
| 02:40 |
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eythian |
haha |
| 02:40 |
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dcook |
Yeah, I don't know how they'd do it without the drums |
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dcook |
Actually, I wonder if they did form after a long road trip... |
| 02:44 |
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eythian |
I wouldn't be surprised... |
| 02:45 |
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dcook |
Hmm, I wonder how many times the drummer has made jokes about bandmates... |
| 02:45 |
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* dcook |
tries to remember how it goes.. |
| 02:46 |
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dcook |
"What do you call someone who hangs around with musicians?" |
| 02:46 |
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dcook |
A drummer. |
| 02:46 |
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eythian |
heh |
| 02:46 |
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dcook |
Oh my, I've stumbled upon a page of drummer jokes now.. |
| 02:47 |
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dcook |
Hmm so much for my electro-indie afternoon. Metal it is... |
| 02:47 |
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dcook |
I needed something with more energy anyway |
| 02:48 |
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eythian |
Try Gogol Bordello if you want something sorta weirdly in the middle |
| 02:48 |
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dcook |
Hmm, might be a bit early in the week for Gogol Bordello |
| 02:48 |
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dcook |
And a definite lack of red wine |
| 02:49 |
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eythian |
fair enough |
| 02:49 |
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dcook |
Although Gogol Bordello live were one of the best concerts I've been to I think |
| 02:49 |
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dcook |
I'll never understand it... I was in town for a reptile expo, and it just so happened the venue was across from my hotel |
| 02:49 |
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dcook |
We walked up to see if anyway had spare tickets... went to the counter and got awesome seats in the third row for next to nothing :) |
| 02:49 |
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eythian |
I'm trying to remember if I've seen them, I don't think I have, but I've started to lose track. |
| 02:50 |
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eythian |
sweet |
| 02:50 |
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dcook |
Sadly, I've been able to keep track of everything in recent years :( |
| 02:50 |
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dcook |
Once upon a time, it was a show a week, but these days... I think I've seen less than a handful of gigs in the past 3 years :( |
| 02:54 |
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eythian |
http://www.last.fm/user/eythia[…]n+live&view=cloud <-- I need to spend a bit of time and make that properly up to date |
| 02:55 |
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dcook |
2007... |
| 02:55 |
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dcook |
I think that's when I saw Tool too |
| 02:55 |
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dcook |
Enjoy the band but it was an awful show :( |
| 02:55 |
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dcook |
Worst crowd ever.. |
| 02:56 |
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dcook |
Well, not the worst. Just not good. |
| 02:56 |
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dcook |
That's quite the list! |
| 02:56 |
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dcook |
Still heartbroken over not seeing Iron Maiden in 2009 |
| 02:57 |
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dcook |
Tickets sold out in less than 30 minutes. I had overslept just barely but I figured I'd have a chance... nope. |
| 02:57 |
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eythian |
It was pretty good. |
| 02:57 |
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eythian |
ah, a friend and I booked early. |
| 02:57 |
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dcook |
Smart move |
| 02:57 |
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eythian |
and then bussed up to Christchurch for it, I think. |
| 02:57 |
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dcook |
It would've been local for me :( |
| 02:57 |
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dcook |
Only minutes from my apartment! |
| 02:57 |
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* dcook |
is only slightly bitter |
| 02:58 |
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dcook |
My girlfriend of the time knew a guy who bought tickets for 3 or 4 of their shows |
| 02:58 |
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eythian |
that's just greedy. |
| 02:58 |
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dcook |
Flew to the other cities for the shows before they got to our home town |
| 02:58 |
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dcook |
Agreed |
| 02:58 |
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dcook |
More money than sense that fellow |
| 02:59 |
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dcook |
Actually, that was an interesting thing about that show. It was so popular. Enoromously popular. |
| 02:59 |
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dcook |
I think a lot of people bought tickets because it was marketed so well. |
| 02:59 |
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dcook |
Which meant that not everyone who went even actually wanted to see it :S |
| 02:59 |
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dcook |
Ok, I'll stop rambling about how bitter I am about that :p |
| 02:59 |
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dcook |
Glad that I got my advanced Mogwai tickets at least |
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eythian |
perl svc/members/upsert 'matchField=cardnumber' 'cardnumber=10002' 'FOO=test' 'firstname=testname' |
| 04:27 |
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eythian |
so that works now |
| 04:27 |
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eythian |
mostly, I haven't tested it all |
| 04:27 |
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eythian |
but it gives you an API to add or update a borrower. |
| 04:28 |
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eythian |
(i.e. in this case, it updates the user with cardnumber 10002 to have an extended attribute 'FOO' with value 'test' and have a firstname 'testname') |
| 04:28 |
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dcook |
:D |
| 04:28 |
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dcook |
upsert? |
| 04:28 |
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eythian |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upsert :) |
| 04:29 |
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eythian |
update/insert |
| 04:29 |
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eythian |
so if the borrower doesn't exist, it's created |
| 04:29 |
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eythian |
that's the bit I haven't tested yet |
| 04:31 |
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eythian |
but, I won't have time for that just now. |
| 04:32 |
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dcook |
I figured it would be update/insert |
| 04:32 |
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dcook |
That's awesome |
| 04:32 |
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dcook |
Must be madness for non-English speakers |
| 04:33 |
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eythian |
quite possibly :) |
| 04:33 |
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eythian |
anyway, I need to head off to training. Later. |
| 04:34 |
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dcook |
laters |
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cait |
eythian: around maybe? |
| 06:15 |
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cait |
hm too late i guess |
| 06:56 |
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* magnuse |
waves |
| 06:56 |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -8.0°C (7:50 AM CET on January 12, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: -15.0°C. Windchill: -19.0°C. Pressure: 29.24 in 990 hPa (Falling). |
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magnuse |
@wunder rognan, norway |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in FAUSKE, ved smabathavna., 8200 FAUSKE, Norway is -10.3°C (7:56 AM CET on January 12, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: -16.0°C. Windchill: -18.0°C. Pressure: 29.24 in 990 hPa (Falling). |
| 06:57 |
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magnuse |
@wunder karasjok |
| 06:57 |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Karasjok, Norway is -39.8°C (7:55 AM CET on January 12, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: -43.0°C. Windchill: -40.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:57 |
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magnuse |
now that is pretty cold |
| 06:57 |
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magnuse |
@wunder kautokeino |
| 06:58 |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in ENONTEKIO, Norway is -37.0°C (8:50 AM EET on January 12, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: -42.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady). |
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* cait |
waves |
| 07:42 |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
| 07:43 |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 2.2°C (8:40 AM CET on January 12, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:43 |
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cait |
looks like more rain today, still so dark |
| 07:43 |
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cait |
bbiab |
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reiveune |
hello |
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ashimema_ |
morning #koha |
| 07:52 |
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ashimema_ |
boo, I missed cait |
| 07:52 |
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ashimema_ |
@wunder stevenage, uk |
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huginn |
ashimema_: The current temperature in Pin Green, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 8.4°C (7:50 AM GMT on January 12, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). |
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fridolin |
hie all |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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* brian_ |
slaps ashimema_ around a bit with a large fishbot |
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magnuse |
@wunder karasjok |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Karasjok, Norway is -39.6°C (9:10 AM CET on January 12, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: -43.0°C. Windchill: -40.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Falling). |
| 08:14 |
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ashimema_ |
ok.. that was wierd |
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ashimema_ |
morning magnuse |
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ashimema_ |
morning cait |
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cait |
morning ashimema :) |
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marcelr |
hi #koha |
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cait |
hi marcelr |
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marcelr |
:) |
| 08:43 |
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magnuse |
hiya cait marcelr ashimema_ kivilahtio et al |
| 08:43 |
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marcelr |
hi magnuse |
| 08:43 |
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kivilahtio |
ki ora magnuse |
| 08:44 |
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kivilahtio |
hmmm should i try to make it to the hackfest? |
| 08:44 |
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magnuse |
hmmm, yes you should |
| 08:44 |
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magnuse |
:-) |
| 08:44 |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: we are planning to visit Oslo sometime next month |
| 08:44 |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: so I am notsure how our travel fund allows me to get everywhere |
| 08:45 |
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kivilahtio |
well... priorize |
| 08:45 |
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kivilahtio |
I could optimize by flying to Oslo, then sleeping on somebodys couch for a month, then flying to Marseilles |
| 08:45 |
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kivilahtio |
sounds like aplan! |
| 08:50 |
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cait |
hi magnuse hi kivilahtio |
| 08:52 |
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kivilahtio |
hi cait |
| 08:52 |
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kivilahtio |
ha everybosdy |
| 08:52 |
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kivilahtio |
hi wahanui |
| 08:56 |
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Joubu |
o/ |
| 08:58 |
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cait |
Joubu: are you sure the time won't be given with dt_from_string? |
| 08:58 |
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cait |
it seems it always returns a datetime objec |
| 08:58 |
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cait |
t |
| 08:58 |
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cait |
when we only want a iso formatted date |
| 08:59 |
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Joubu |
cait: hum? I didn't understand |
| 08:59 |
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Joubu |
cait: did you see I submited a new patch? |
| 08:59 |
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cait |
yes |
| 08:59 |
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cait |
that shoudl fix the problem with the now |
| 08:59 |
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cait |
wellc urrent date |
| 09:00 |
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cait |
but i think we only want a date and it will give a datetime |
| 09:00 |
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Joubu |
h |
| 09:00 |
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Joubu |
aa |
| 09:01 |
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cait |
i tried to get it working before work this morning, but coudln't figure out how |
| 09:01 |
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cait |
thinking ther emust be an easy way to do this... like a best practice |
| 09:02 |
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* Joubu |
does not understand why it works... |
| 09:02 |
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cait |
hm think it doesn't |
| 09:02 |
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cait |
try limiting the filters |
| 09:03 |
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cait |
it didn't limit correctly when i tried this morning, but didn't explode either |
| 09:03 |
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Joubu |
cait: with the last patch, it seems to work. But it shouldn't |
| 09:03 |
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ashimema_ |
Hackfest.. that reminds me, I must ook a hotel |
| 09:04 |
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ashimema_ |
nd let Paul know we're coming :) |
| 09:04 |
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cait |
who is we? :) |
| 09:06 |
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ashimema_ |
So long as my scheming goes to plan, Alex will be about for the whole week, and Colin and I will each be around for 3 days of it. |
| 09:06 |
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ashimema_ |
though I haven't worked out whether Colin and I should be around at he same time or only overlap for a day |
| 09:07 |
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cait |
Joubu: i tried limiting to a specific year this morning and it didn't seem to work - the older year was still showing up - do the filters work for you? i changed around some things so not totally sure about my test |
| 09:12 |
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Joubu |
cait: I will have a look again in a few minutes |
| 09:12 |
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cait |
np |
| 09:13 |
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cait |
... and could you check if accents/diacricits display for you correctly in a vendor showing in french? we see werid things happening there in 3.18 :( |
| 09:17 |
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Joubu |
cait: acqui/supplier.pl ? |
| 09:18 |
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cait |
yep |
| 09:18 |
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cait |
the problem is, when i checked friday it was ok, today the coworker snt me the link and it's broken |
| 09:18 |
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cait |
it goes away sometimes |
| 09:18 |
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cait |
the problem |
| 09:18 |
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wahanui |
hmmm... the problem is that on order is not treated differently than the other not for loan values |
| 09:18 |
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cait |
i hate things like this |
| 09:19 |
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cait |
first the template strings and the data (Bärbel as name for the contact) were broken- now the template strings show ok and only the database data is wrong... i am confused. |
| 09:19 |
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cait |
/cgi-bin/koha/acqui/supplier.pl?booksellerid=2 |
| 09:20 |
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Joubu |
cait: it's broken here too |
| 09:20 |
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Joubu |
B�rbel |
| 09:20 |
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cait |
filing a slightly confused bug, sec |
| 09:21 |
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cait |
and thx for checking! |
| 09:22 |
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Joubu |
cait: it's a known bug |
| 09:22 |
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Joubu |
that's the main reason we need 11944... |
| 09:22 |
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cait |
do you know if there is a bug already? |
| 09:23 |
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Joubu |
you need to escape the string with the html_entity TT filter in the template |
| 09:23 |
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cait |
i filed bug 13555 |
| 09:23 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13555 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Encoding problems on the vendor summary and edit pages |
| 09:24 |
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cait |
maybe we just ran into it now because we have been using mostly 3.12 so far |
| 09:24 |
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cait |
we are currently testing 3.18 |
| 09:25 |
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Joubu |
Actually, the known bug is that we sent an object to the template, and C4::Templates does not encode correctly data contained in objects |
| 09:26 |
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Joubu |
cait: so the bug should exist since bug 10402 is pushed |
| 09:26 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10402 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Add multiple contacts for vendors |
| 09:27 |
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cait |
hm can't verify, but it might be |
| 09:28 |
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ashimema_ |
bye #koha |
| 09:28 |
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ashimema |
hello #koha |
| 09:28 |
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Joubu |
lol |
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grharry |
Hello! Anybody using CAS for authentication out there ?? |
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ashimema |
matts about ^ |
| 09:50 |
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ashimema |
matts ignore that.. he's gone before he got an answer |
| 09:50 |
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matts |
maybe he'll come back :) |
| 09:52 |
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ashimema |
perhaps |
| 09:53 |
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cait |
phone conf bbl |
| 10:00 |
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kivilahtio |
do we have a regret-button for item deletion? Librarians are reporting missing Items, but they seem to be simply deleted items. Culdn't find a bugzilal entry for "undoing item deletion"? |
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kivilahtio |
Also is tehre a feature to automatically show all results in the databasles? |
| 10:04 |
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Joubu |
kivilahtio: "undo item deletion": I don't think so |
| 10:04 |
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kivilahtio |
It would be nice if I wouldn't have to always select Show All Fields in the DT. |
| 10:04 |
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kivilahtio |
it is actualyl really annoying :( |
| 10:05 |
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Joubu |
There is nothing to show all results in a table (could be easy to do, but you certainly don't want to show all results for all tables) |
| 10:05 |
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kivilahtio |
why not? Datatables receives all the data at once |
| 10:05 |
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Joubu |
kivilahtio: did you try to do it using JS? |
| 10:05 |
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kivilahtio |
nope |
| 10:05 |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: I guess I could add a staff client javascript snippet |
| 10:05 |
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Joubu |
kivilahtio: not for all tables, some tables use ajax |
| 10:05 |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu, hmm, ok |
| 10:07 |
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Joubu |
kivilahtio: you can have a look at js/datatables.js |
| 10:07 |
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Joubu |
l.~28 |
| 10:07 |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: thanks |
| 10:07 |
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Joubu |
"iDisplayLength": 20 |
| 10:07 |
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Joubu |
try -1, but be careful for tables retrieving data in ajax (patrons search for instance) |
| 10:08 |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: ok, we are still using 3.16.4 |
| 10:08 |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: but will keep it in mind, maybe I'll just set it to 100 |
| 10:08 |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: shoudln't make any difference regarding patron search |
| 10:08 |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: unless it finds each patron one by one :) |
| 10:09 |
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kivilahtio |
Also I could use the column sorting more |
| 10:09 |
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kivilahtio |
I always forget it :( |
| 10:11 |
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Joubu |
kivilahtio: it will retrieve 100 patron data, instead of 20 :) |
| 10:11 |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: are you coming to the hackfest? |
| 10:11 |
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Joubu |
kivilahtio: yes, of course |
| 10:11 |
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kivilahtio |
nice |
| 10:11 |
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kivilahtio |
I am still meditationg on it |
| 10:11 |
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Joubu |
you should come :) |
| 10:11 |
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kivilahtio |
I have a gut feeling management doen'st share my enthusiasm |
| 10:11 |
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Joubu |
at least for the cheeses |
| 10:12 |
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kivilahtio |
I cant eat cheese |
| 10:12 |
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Joubu |
too bad |
| 10:12 |
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kivilahtio |
not really |
| 10:12 |
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Joubu |
So not sure you have a good reason to come :p |
| 10:13 |
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magnuse |
marseille sans le fromage? noooo |
| 10:13 |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: milk is murder.. sorry guys |
| 10:15 |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: I think I'll find something |
| 10:31 |
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magnuse |
ah milk-less cheese? we do have that, but it can't legally be called cheese |
| 10:31 |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: I agree |
| 10:31 |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: and why should it? THere is a great pizzeria here, it's called "Roihu", they have the bestest dairy-free cheese |
| 10:32 |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: I guess it is simply because of habits that chesse is called chesse. |
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ashimema |
we don't already track the client (i.e. machine) used to loging to the staff client at any point do we? |
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ashimema |
OK, another stupid question here.. especially as I should really know.. |
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kivilahtio |
ashimema: we do |
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kivilahtio |
ashimema: check the session-table |
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ashimema |
why do we have both a user session, and a user env, and when should we use one or the other for what |
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kivilahtio |
ashimema: it is a crazy mess but I think the data is there |
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ashimema |
cheers kivi.. I had a feeling that 'might' be the case |
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kivilahtio |
ashimema: cheers yourself! Cook something cool with it! |
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ashimema |
that looks like it just records the IP rather than anything more specific to me.. |
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ashimema |
I need somthing that ties more directly to a machine than an IP which is often a full subnet of machines ;) |
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kivilahtio |
ashimema: no port? |
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ashimema |
not that I can see |
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ashimema |
Hmm.. think I'll add a cookie, or localStorage to give a client a unique ID (and make it optional) |
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tcohen |
morning |
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magnuse |
kia ora tcohen |
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marcelr |
hi tcohen |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -9.0°C (1:20 PM CET on January 12, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: -15.0°C. Windchill: -22.0°C. Pressure: 29.15 in 987 hPa (Steady). |
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* magnuse |
moves to right in front of the fireplace |
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tcohen |
@wunder cordoba argentina |
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huginn |
tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 27.6°C (9:25 AM ART on January 12, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.84 in 1010 hPa (Rising). |
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tcohen |
@wunder SACO |
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huginn |
tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba Aerodrome, Argentina is 24.0°C (9:00 AM ART on January 12, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 29.84 in 1010 hPa (Rising). |
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magnuse |
@wunder karasjok |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Karasjok, Norway is -37.9°C (1:25 PM CET on January 12, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: -42.0°C. Windchill: -38.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady). |
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marcelr |
did you move? |
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magnuse |
nope, luckily :-) |
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magnuse |
it's just one of the coldest places in norway right now |
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kivilahtio |
ashimema: how about the CGISESSID. It is already unique regardless if the IP/port |
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magnuse |
hm, someone asked me to look at an indexing problem. i'm seeing "11:45:49-12/01 zebraidx(14570) [warn] Couldn't open collection.abs [No such file or directory]" which looks similar to bug 13396 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13396 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , koha-rebuild-zebra: Couldn't open collection.abs error after 3.18 package update |
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magnuse |
but i'm also getting "11:56:10-12/01 zebraidx(14570) [fatal] Out of memory - malloc (302080000 bytes)" |
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magnuse |
this is after a package upgrade to 3.18.2 |
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magnuse |
there's ~80k records and 6GB memory, so that shouldn't really be a problem |
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magnuse |
anyone got an inkling abut what that last error might be? |
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tcohen |
magnuse: IO problems? |
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magnuse |
hm, found an email that suggests setting zebra_bib_index_mode = zebra_auth_index_mode = grs1 (i had it set to "dom"). trying that now |
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magnuse |
tcohen: possibly? |
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tcohen |
it is some misconfiguration on the files, carried between updates |
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tcohen |
you should try those two settings match your actual configuration |
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tcohen |
but it doesnt make sense, because it is a zebra error |
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tcohen |
well... those two are used by rebuild_zebra.pl.... |
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tcohen |
what does the about page say? |
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magnuse |
tcohen: wht do you mean by "actual configuration"? |
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magnuse |
let me check |
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tcohen |
what koha-conf.xml points authorityserver and biblioserver to |
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tcohen |
if it was my own problem, I'd just recreate the instances with DOM and load the DB on it |
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magnuse |
ah, yes i better have a good look at koha-conf.xml |
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magnuse |
it's not my server, so i don't want to be too drastic :-) |
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jcamins |
magnuse: sounds like an upgrade from a pretty old version? |
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jcamins |
3.6ish, maybe? |
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jcamins |
magnuse: there's a RAM limit that we increased at some point. |
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magnuse |
nah, i think it was from from 3.16, or maybe .14. definitely not as far back as 3.6 |
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jcamins |
In that case, sounds like you have a weird record. |
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jcamins |
And, of course, you're indexing with DOM but exporting as GRS-1 or vice versa. |
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jcamins |
The weirdness of the record may go away when you fix that. |
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magnuse |
register: /var/lib/koha/zebradb/biblios/register:20G |
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magnuse |
shadow: /var/lib/koha/zebradb/biblios/shadow:20G |
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jcamins |
That's disk space. |
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jcamins |
I think what you want is toward the bottom. |
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magnuse |
setting zebra_bib_index_mode = zebra_auth_index_mode = grs1 "fixed", meaning no errors and search works again |
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jcamins |
memMax |
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magnuse |
memMax: 50M |
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jcamins |
Okay, so it was just seeming weird because it was exported for the wrong format. |
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magnuse |
probably :-) |
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magnuse |
so does this mean there is a major problem with the upgrade to 3.18.x? |
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magnuse |
at least for users coming from grs1? |
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ashimema |
kivilahtio: CGISESSID is session specific.. I want machine specific across sessions ;) i.e. one user can logout, and then another one login on the same machine.. but they should both get the same machine ID tracked between logins.. |
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ashimema |
CGISESSID wouldn't do that ;) |
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jcamins |
magnuse: a bit of a problem, yeah. |
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kivilahtio |
ashimema: That sound like evil |
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ashimema |
it's so I can persistently link a computer to a 'till' for our cash management work.. and may have some other uses later if people like it ;) |
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kivilahtio |
ashimema: Google isn't evil :) |
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* magnuse |
suspects ashimema of being hired by the fbi |
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ashimema |
i'm writing the stuff now.. |
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kivilahtio |
ashimema: what about the user who constantly clears his browser cookie cache? |
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ashimema |
different here will be it's staff client only, and optional.. |
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ashimema |
FBI would want to trakc the enitre world for everything.. |
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magnuse |
:-) |
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kivilahtio |
Now I know why we have this new feature in Koha which collect "anonymous" usage statistics from all Kohalibraries |
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ashimema |
also. there's intentionally going to be no link between a user and a machine in this context.. |
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ashimema |
as much as I can obfuscate that of course |
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kivilahtio |
ashimema: I am calling the cops |
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ashimema |
haha |
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kivilahtio |
:) |
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kivilahtio |
gotta go get some lunch |
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kivilahtio |
before I reindex the WHOLE DB |
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ashimema |
yup.. there is indeed that user who clears they're cookies all the time.. for them, the 'convenience' of not having to select a 'till' at every login will be lost ;) |
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ashimema |
but that's their own fault.. i'm trying to not be too intrusive.. |
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kivilahtio |
ashimema: I see |
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kivilahtio |
ashimema: what is a 'till' |
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ashimema |
and yeah.. staff client only.. really a staff member should always assume they're being monitored at work ;) |
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kivilahtio |
ashimema: I agree, we should be monitored |
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ashimema |
a till in this case is the place you collect monies throughout the day. |
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kivilahtio |
w eare getting paid to do our work after all |
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ashimema |
haha. |
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kivilahtio |
ashimema: like the cash register? |
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kivilahtio |
atleast i am |
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ashimema |
yup.. cash register, box under the desk, staffs memeber pocket.. |
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ashimema |
whereever you keep the money ;) |
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ashimema |
s/staffs memeber/staff members/ |
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ashimema |
it's for allowing a cash up at the end of the day ;) |
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ashimema |
i.e patron x paid some money in today.. now where on earth did that money end up ;) |
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kivilahtio |
ashimema: I understand |
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kivilahtio |
ashimema: we solved this by simply collecting all the money to one place, and than splitting it based on the capita |
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kivilahtio |
ashimema: But you can tell from the action_logs/statistics -tables where the money was paid and for what purpose? |
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ashimema |
but such a cookie could also be used to increase staff client security (in a similar sort of way to the IP restrictions stuff).. i.e. the StaffClientID cookie must be present to allow a staff session to auth at all |
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kivilahtio |
lunch |
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ashimema |
the action_logs still don't give you a reliable physical location |
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ashimema |
;) |
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ashimema |
just a staff member and which session they took the transaction in.. as far as I know at least.. |
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ashimema |
so if said staff member hot desks.. they may forget which till they attributed the money to before and after lunch.. if they're silly that is ;) |
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marcelr |
Joubu: we talked about the dashboard recently: why is bug 8994 not listed with the oldest 10? note that its last status change is 2013-10-28. If the reason is that it is an enhancement, I think we should remove the filter on bugfix ? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8994 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Make FindDuplicateAuthority behaviour customizable |
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magnuse |
marcelr: i think you can send rangi a pull request? |
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marcelr |
yeah probably; discussing it first |
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magnuse |
https://github.com/Koha-Community/koha-dashboard |
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magnuse |
cool |
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cait |
marcelr: i had asked rangi btw - he said it's always the oldest from change date - but I think it's not quite all to it |
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cait |
maybe resticted to bugs first? |
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marcelr |
i think we should see them all: bugfix and enhs and new features |
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marcelr |
oldest first |
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cait |
i am ok with bugs first, but showing enh too |
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cait |
but i think it does that, just th elogic is not totally clear to me |
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marcelr |
cait: SELECT bugs.bug_id,short_desc FROM bugs WHERE bug_status ='Needs Signoff' and bug_severity <> 'enhancement' and bug_severity <> 'new feature' ORDER by lastdiffed limit 10; |
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marcelr |
it removes enh and new feat; not sure what lastdiffed is |
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marcelr |
could be different from lastchange |
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cait |
ah |
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cait |
that's the needs signoff? |
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marcelr |
yes |
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marcelr |
from the code |
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ashimema |
ack.. is that really the time.. |
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ashimema |
no wonder i'm really hungry |
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magnuse |
ashimema: lunchtime? |
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wahanui |
it has been said that lunchtime is a terrible time for a meeting |
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magnuse |
indeed it is |
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tcohen |
khall: is it possible that you added the QA followup but forgot to sign+pass-qa on bug 13404? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13404 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Signed Off , More »System information« about GRS1 vs DOM settings |
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khall |
I filed to the followup to correct some koha-qa issues, but felt I was unable to test the patches properly in order to sign them |
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tcohen |
oh, ok |
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magnuse |
kia ora nengard |
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nengard |
hola magnuse |
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gerundio |
hi all |
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gerundio |
just got a request regarding setting up a koha installation for EBSCO's EDS |
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gerundio |
just read some info about it from the April 2014 newsletter at http://koha-community.org/koha[…]april-2014/#ebsco |
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gerundio |
and some more from https://github.com/ebsco/edsapi-koha-plugin |
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gerundio |
somewhere in the github plugin page it reads: "use Patches folder to patch core Koha files and get greater integration." |
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gerundio |
"patch Koha files" sounds bad |
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gerundio |
any thoughts on this? |
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cait |
gerundio: sorry, we are not using it |
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cait |
ashimema: might know |
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gerundio |
cait, nevertheless, patching koha core files is always a bad principle, right? |
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Joubu |
gerundio: yes |
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Joubu |
Actually it depends what you patch |
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Joubu |
if you have the ressources to maintain your own fork, you can do it |
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gerundio |
they do refer "and get greater integration", so I read it as it also works to some extent without the core patches |
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cait |
Joubu: do you think it would be hard to allow a library to choose the on-site checkout due date? |
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Joubu |
cait: What is the workflow? To reserve a on-site checkout? |
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cait |
i have a library interested in the feature - but they store the items longer than a day for the users to use in the reading room |
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cait |
they have a special shelf |
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cait |
so you can come back and continue working with the materials |
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ashimema |
it does indeed work to a decent extent without additional modifcation.. |
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ashimema |
there are also patches in koha now to prevent the need to modifying additional bits I beleive.. |
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ashimema |
a colegue of mine does the implimentations of this though.. so I'm not exactly sure of the current state of affairs |
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cait |
Joubu: i treid cheating by entering another date in the form... but it still calculates for the next day, so it's not that easy :) |
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cait |
i will file an enh request for them, maybe i will get to take a deeper look |
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Joubu |
cait: it should be too difficult to do, but yes you cannot cheat :) |
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cait |
mean Joubu - made it so i can't cheat! :) |
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Joubu |
cait: have a look at circ/circulation.pl l.163-165 |
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reiveune |
bye |
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Joubu |
the date is recalculated in the pl script if the onsite is checked |
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cait |
working through notes from the phone conf today, will try to later! |
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cait |
ah |
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cait |
more date magic... seems it's my fate |
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Joubu |
cait: actually, maybe this check could be removed, and keep the date filled by the user |
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Joubu |
cait: in summary, not difficult, but not trivial :) |
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cait |
should it be optional? |
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Joubu |
I don't know, I would say no |
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cait |
ah, thought it might have been a requirement |
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ashimema |
ack.. we do full page reloads far too often :( |
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* ashimema |
again feels a need to get an angular patch in. |
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cait |
hm question: the new item search uses sql, right? |
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cait |
i can#t get it to work so it finds lost statuses :( |
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cait |
i configured it in administration for 952 1 with pull down LOST |
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cait |
Joubu: still around? |
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cait |
you shouldn# be.. but who knows :) |
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Joubu |
cait: yep |
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cait |
ah, trying to figure out the item search form |
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cait |
bug 13562 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13562 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Item search: Not possible to add other search fields from 952? |
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Joubu |
cait: do you think it's a bug? |
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cait |
it's hard to tell |
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Joubu |
cait: quite late now, I will take a look tomorrow :) |
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cait |
there is no help |
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cait |
that's alright :) |
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Joubu |
at least to know if it's a bug or not |
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cait |
yep |
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cait |
i will change it to an enh request if you have proof it's nt a bug ;) |
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bag |
morning |
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francharb |
Hello all |
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francharb |
Belated happy new year |
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francharb |
Is there a wiki page to know which status I should use when signing off? I worked on two patches, I have questions about them, which status should I use? "In discussion" ? |
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tcohen |
@seen paul_p |
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huginn |
tcohen: paul_p was last seen in #koha 4 days, 5 hours, 24 minutes, and 2 seconds ago: <paul_p> tcohen = it worked |
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wizzyrea |
in discussion is fine |
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rangi |
if people are interested #kohaacademy is where the students will be hanging out |
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tcohen |
rangi: cool |
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cait |
cool :) |
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rangi |
this is the main koha channel |
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rangi |
there are a couple of bots in here that are helpful |
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rangi |
and some that arent |
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rangi |
rangi? |
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wahanui |
I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS! |
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brandon |
yum |
| 20:29 |
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wizzyrea |
@quote get 123 |
| 20:29 |
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wahanui |
http://xkcd.com/1172/ |
| 20:29 |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
| 20:30 |
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cait |
tcohen? |
| 20:30 |
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wahanui |
i think tcohen is obsessed with packages' scripts |
| 20:30 |
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wizzyrea |
cait? |
| 20:30 |
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wahanui |
i heard cait was from germany. Ask me about germany. |
| 20:30 |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
| 20:30 |
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rangi |
bug 7143 |
| 20:30 |
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wahanui |
i guess bug 7143 is ready for an easy signoff |
| 20:30 |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 1.1°C (9:25 PM CET on January 12, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Falling). |
| 20:30 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Bug for tracking changes to the about page |
| 20:30 |
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wizzyrea |
germany? |
| 20:30 |
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wahanui |
somebody said germany was where germs come from. Ask me about germs. |
| 20:30 |
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wizzyrea |
germs? |
| 20:30 |
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wahanui |
germs is http://i.imgur.com/5UfhT.jpg |
| 20:30 |
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wizzyrea |
hehe hadn't gone down that particular path before. |
| 20:30 |
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wizzyrea |
wizzyrea? |
| 20:30 |
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wahanui |
you are silly |
| 20:30 |
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wizzyrea |
true. |
| 20:30 |
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cait |
@eightball will we get snow tomorrow? |
| 20:30 |
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huginn |
cait: You know the answer better than I. |
| 20:31 |
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wizzyrea |
wizzyrea? |
| 20:31 |
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wahanui |
hmmm... wizzyrea is silly |
| 20:31 |
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cait |
eythian? |
| 20:31 |
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wahanui |
i guess eythian is Time's Person of the Year for 2006. |
| 20:31 |
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anonymous |
internet? |
| 20:31 |
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wahanui |
internet is not working here properly... I may disappear |
| 20:37 |
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cait |
@marc 245 |
| 20:37 |
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huginn |
cait: The title and statement of responsibility area of the bibliographic description of a work. [a,b,c,f,g,h,k,n,p,s,6,8] |
| 20:38 |
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cait |
tcohen: no success with running the tests at all :( |
| 20:38 |
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cait |
tried on top of the utf-8 patches and only with the tests |
| 20:40 |
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anonymous |
fun? |
| 20:40 |
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wahanui |
hmmm... fun is over, i'm switching back to drojf's usual tl:dr behaviour |
| 20:40 |
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anonymous |
wahanui? |
| 20:40 |
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wahanui |
anonymous? |
| 20:40 |
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anonymous |
stop? |
| 20:41 |
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anonymous |
go? |
| 20:41 |
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anonymous |
wahanui? |
| 20:41 |
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wahanui |
anonymous? |
| 20:41 |
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anonymous |
hello? |
| 20:55 |
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tcohen |
KOHA_USER=kohaadmin KOHA_PASS=katikoan KOHA_INTRANET_URL=http://koha-dev.biblioadmin KOHA_OPAC_URL=http://koha-dev.biblio prove -v t/db_dependent/www/auth_values_input_www.t |
| 20:55 |
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tcohen |
run it like that |
