Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
00:00 |
|
rangi |
so my next question is, published xss vuln .. probably need to do an out of band security release eh |
00:01 |
|
rangi |
cant really wait until the 22nd |
00:01 |
|
rangi |
since we've been 0dayed |
00:01 |
|
drojf |
i'd say yes |
00:01 |
|
rangi |
yeah ill do one for 3.18 |
00:02 |
|
rangi |
if this tests out ok |
00:10 |
|
rangi |
@later tell tcohen take a look at bug 13425 ive pushed to 3.18.x already but it should go in master too, thanks |
00:10 |
|
huginn |
rangi: The operation succeeded. |
00:13 |
|
rangi |
rambutan: its pushed to 3.18.x if you wanted to take a look |
00:17 |
|
bag |
who's 3.16? |
00:17 |
|
rangi |
mtj |
00:17 |
|
bag |
ah |
00:17 |
|
rangi |
mtj: are you around? |
00:23 |
|
wizzyrea |
mtj- as well |
00:26 |
|
drojf |
good night #koha |
00:26 |
|
rangi |
thanks heaps drojf |
00:26 |
|
drojf |
:) |
00:26 |
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00:29 |
|
rangi |
http://download.koha-community.org/ |
00:38 |
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wizzyrea |
good stuff |
00:39 |
|
rangi |
done |
00:39 |
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00:39 |
|
rangi |
reported 11.42am |
00:40 |
|
rangi |
new release at 1.39pm |
00:40 |
|
rangi |
not even 2 hours |
00:40 |
|
ibeardslee |
awesome |
00:40 |
|
rangi |
@later tell mtj take a look at bug 13425 you will want to cut a 3.16.x release with it in it asap |
00:40 |
|
huginn |
rangi: The operation succeeded. |
00:41 |
|
wizzyrea |
rangi++ |
00:42 |
|
aleisha |
woo go rangi |
01:20 |
|
wajasu |
rangi++ |
01:27 |
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01:30 |
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01:35 |
|
dcook |
So if I understand this correctly... |
01:35 |
|
dcook |
CentOS is built from RHEL and RHEL is built from Fedora? |
01:37 |
|
dcook |
RHEL and Fedora are owned by Red Hat... and CentOS is "sponsored" by Red Hat? |
01:37 |
|
dcook |
Debian is run by Debian, Ubuntu is run by Canonical... |
01:37 |
|
dcook |
SUSE and OpenSUSE by SUSE... |
01:38 |
|
ibeardslee |
I understand that CentOS is now owned by Redhat |
01:39 |
|
ibeardslee |
not quite ibeardslee .. CentOS announced the official joining with Red Hat while staying independent from RHEL, under a new CentOS governing board. |
01:40 |
|
dcook |
Yeah, that's what I saw |
01:40 |
|
ibeardslee |
whatever that really means |
01:40 |
|
dcook |
Although at the time, I think the headlines were saying that Redhat now owned CentOS |
01:40 |
|
dcook |
I know, right? |
01:41 |
|
wizzyrea |
all the sigh |
01:42 |
|
* dcook |
is going to stop thinking about distros |
01:42 |
|
dcook |
Looks like Chef Server only runs on Ubuntu and RHEL though |
01:42 |
|
dcook |
Or at least they only package it for those distros |
01:42 |
|
dcook |
I think you could probably built your own packages or build from source by collecting up all the code from the bazillion repos on Github.. |
01:43 |
|
dcook |
It looks like a rather complex tool so fair enough perhaps, but dang :/ |
01:43 |
|
dcook |
I suppose a person could just run up a machine solely to be the Chef Server |
01:43 |
|
* dcook |
would love to switch to Debian or Ubuntu anyway... |
01:44 |
|
dcook |
Maybe https://github.com/opscode/opscode-omnibus ... |
01:49 |
|
dcook |
Hmmm https://github.com/opscode-cookbooks/chef-server |
01:50 |
|
dcook |
Don't love the Opscode docs. They keep everything up but don't necessarily label what's out of date... |
01:56 |
|
wizzyrea |
dcook: glad the thing worked out yesterday |
01:56 |
|
dcook |
Ah yeah. That was neat. |
01:56 |
|
dcook |
Didn't 100% figure out the problem, but understood the solution. |
01:56 |
|
dcook |
If that makes sense.. |
01:56 |
|
dcook |
Or rather... knew the problem, knew the solution, but not 100% sure of the root of the problem |
01:56 |
|
dcook |
Yeah.. |
01:59 |
|
mtj |
hi rangi |
01:59 |
|
rangi |
hey mtj |
01:59 |
|
mtj |
roger on bug 13425 |
01:59 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13425 is not accessible. |
02:00 |
|
rangi |
cool |
02:00 |
|
rangi |
theres a patch for 3.16 on there |
02:00 |
|
rangi |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]lease_maintenance <-- helpful |
02:01 |
|
mtj |
ta, thanks for the info |
02:02 |
|
wizzyrea |
Trial by fire, go! |
02:02 |
|
rangi |
lemme know if you cant pust to 3.16.x |
02:03 |
|
rangi |
you have 2 keys , i added one, but it might be the wrong one :) |
02:03 |
|
rangi |
push even |
02:04 |
|
mtj |
ok thanks |
04:22 |
|
jcamins |
Does anyone know why the 3.16.x patch labeled "OPAC" is intranet-only and obsoletes an actual OPAC patch? |
04:23 |
|
eythian |
hi |
04:24 |
|
eythian |
jcamins: human error? |
04:24 |
|
wahanui |
hmmm... human error is no fun, but I'm not sure that I understand what you're trying to do classification-wise overall. |
04:24 |
|
jcamins |
eythian: okay, just checking there wasn't a reason I was missing. |
04:25 |
|
eythian |
I don't know, just specilating |
04:25 |
|
eythian |
and misspelling |
04:25 |
|
wahanui |
somebody said misspelling was immortalized in master now :-) |
04:25 |
|
dcook |
Deliberate sadism? |
04:27 |
|
eythian |
I had my laptop tracking planes today, by receiving their transponder data. |
04:27 |
|
eythian |
but now I have to roll security releases |
04:28 |
|
dcook |
:D |
04:28 |
|
dcook |
Sounds awesome, eythian |
04:29 |
|
eythian |
also got much of the way decoding commands to an alarm system. |
04:29 |
|
eythian |
Note to self: don't buy cheap alarm systems, they're an open book. |
04:29 |
|
dcook |
hehe |
04:29 |
|
dcook |
Yeah, I can't remember what the article was that said not to use cheap wireless stuff |
04:29 |
|
jcamins |
eythian: also, locks are scarily easy to pick. |
04:30 |
|
dcook |
jcamins: although owning lockpicks might be more illegal than owning radio software? |
04:30 |
|
dcook |
Not that legality matters much in many cases.. |
04:30 |
|
jcamins |
dcook: I can buy sets of lockpicks at street fairs. |
04:30 |
|
dcook |
Really? |
04:30 |
|
jcamins |
Yeah. |
04:30 |
|
dcook |
I thought it was illegal in America |
04:31 |
|
jcamins |
If so, they clearly don't enforce it. |
04:31 |
|
eythian |
dcook: I'm pretty sure it's legal here too. |
04:31 |
|
dcook |
Huh... learn something new everyday |
04:31 |
|
dcook |
eythian: Probably. I just recall an American (who had lockpicks) mentioning to me that they were illegal to buy in the US |
04:31 |
|
dcook |
Perhaps my memory is faulty or he was incorrect/lying |
04:32 |
|
jcamins |
dcook: varies by state. |
04:32 |
|
jcamins |
Legal in NY. |
04:33 |
|
jcamins |
rangi: any objection to my revising your patches so that they have descriptions that match what they do? |
04:33 |
|
eythian |
jcamins: rangi is probably en route home |
04:34 |
|
jcamins |
eythian: do you think he'd mind? |
04:34 |
|
eythian |
I doubt it |
04:34 |
|
jcamins |
Okay. |
04:34 |
|
* jcamins |
either. |
04:35 |
|
dcook |
Good ol' regional laws |
04:35 |
|
dcook |
Well, I guess everywhere is a region in one way or another... |
04:35 |
|
eythian |
I have a feeling they might be more legally dubious in .au |
04:35 |
|
eythian |
There'll be lockpicking training at kiwicon, someone will know |
04:35 |
|
dcook |
I figure pretty much everything is illegal here |
04:35 |
|
dcook |
On the plus side, I have Medicare now :D |
04:35 |
|
dcook |
s/now/now... for now/ |
04:36 |
|
dcook |
Really wish I could've gone to kiwicon... |
04:37 |
|
eythian |
I just had a full day of software defined radio training, it was neato. |
04:37 |
|
jcamins |
banana: around? |
04:37 |
|
jcamins |
Uhhh... |
04:37 |
|
jcamins |
bag: around? |
04:37 |
|
eythian |
close :) |
04:40 |
|
dcook |
yeah rangi mentioned earlier that you were at that one today, eythian |
04:40 |
|
dcook |
I think my day was spent on learning about... Chef and Amazon AWS |
04:41 |
|
eythian |
@later tell larryb oldstable is 3.14 because there's been no new 3.16 release yet, usually they're in sync enough that I just do it when the new release comes out but this time that didn't happen |
04:41 |
|
huginn |
eythian: The operation succeeded. |
04:41 |
|
jcamins |
Should I remove bag's sign-off? He signed off on a patch that doesn't do what it says, which makes me think maybe the uploaded patch isn't what he was testing. |
04:41 |
|
eythian |
it's probably good to make sure things are correct, so I'd say yes |
04:42 |
|
jcamins |
Yeah, that was my thought. |
04:43 |
|
jcamins |
Okay, that's done. |
04:46 |
|
jcamins |
bag: I went ahead and removed your sign-off, since you'll be working on Koha again soon and would be able to confirm your sign-off was intentional. |
04:52 |
|
eythian |
updated 3.18 packages uploading |
04:52 |
|
eythian |
uploaded |
04:54 |
|
* eythian |
will do 3.16 when the update is release. |
04:54 |
|
eythian |
+d |
05:02 |
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05:02 |
|
mtompset |
@later tell drojf You're safe from the live dvd. :) |
05:02 |
|
huginn |
mtompset: The operation succeeded. |
05:07 |
|
dcook |
Anyone have any ideas about: "fatal: Unable to find remote helper for 'https'" |
05:07 |
|
eythian |
what's the context? |
05:07 |
|
wahanui |
the context is everything? |
05:07 |
|
dcook |
When using git clone |
05:07 |
|
eythian |
exactly |
05:07 |
|
* dcook |
just realized that wasn't part of the error message |
05:07 |
|
eythian |
hmm |
05:08 |
|
eythian |
what platform? |
05:08 |
|
dcook |
OpenSUSE |
05:08 |
|
wahanui |
rumour has it OpenSUSE is not used by many developers, and will likely be difficult to get Koha working with |
05:08 |
|
dcook |
^ |
05:08 |
|
eythian |
did you build it, or install it from repos? |
05:08 |
|
dcook |
Someone installed git from source originally |
05:08 |
|
* dcook |
is going to try reconfiguring it |
05:08 |
|
eythian |
you probably need libcurl-devel installed when building it to do that |
05:09 |
|
eythian |
also libcurl-devel |
05:09 |
|
dcook |
Yeah, I've seen that around. I thought we had it but I should doublecheck |
05:09 |
|
eythian |
otherwise it may not come with http(s) support |
05:09 |
|
dcook |
Yep, already got libcurl-devel |
05:09 |
|
dcook |
I bet it just wasn't built correctly |
05:10 |
|
eythian |
can you use git:// in this situation? |
05:10 |
|
dcook |
Nah, github will only let you use https when you push |
05:10 |
|
* dcook |
cheated and used git to clone in the first place to workaround it |
05:10 |
|
eythian |
I don't think that's true |
05:10 |
|
eythian |
I think you can't push on https at all |
05:10 |
|
eythian |
only on git: |
05:10 |
|
dcook |
Hmm, that's what someone said somewhere |
05:11 |
|
dcook |
I suspect it's how Github defaults as well |
05:11 |
|
eythian |
do you have ssh keys set up for it? |
05:11 |
|
dcook |
Yep |
05:11 |
|
eythian |
then I'd expect it to Just Workâ„¢ |
05:12 |
|
dcook |
Same |
05:12 |
|
eythian |
are you pushing to a repo you own? |
05:12 |
|
dcook |
Yep |
05:12 |
|
eythian |
i.e. you're not trying to push to someone else's repo by accident? |
05:12 |
|
dcook |
Nope, definitely mine |
05:13 |
|
eythian |
then I'd get to the bottom of why pushing to git:// doesn't work, rather than making https work :) |
05:13 |
|
dcook |
Want to push a Chef cookbook to my Github so that Amazon Opworks can pick it up and use it when building an instance |
05:13 |
|
dcook |
ah |
05:13 |
|
dcook |
My bad perhaps |
05:13 |
|
jcamins |
You can push to GH using SSH or HTTPS. |
05:13 |
|
dcook |
git:// works to clone but not to push |
05:13 |
|
dcook |
jcamins: I hadn't thought of ssh... that would also make sense |
05:13 |
|
jcamins |
You can't push on git:// ever. |
05:13 |
|
eythian |
oh |
05:13 |
|
eythian |
hmm |
05:14 |
|
eythian |
ahh |
05:14 |
|
eythian |
it's all git+ssh:// |
05:14 |
|
eythian |
that I have for pushing things |
05:14 |
|
eythian |
or like: gitgithub.com:eythian/koha-gitify.git |
05:14 |
|
eythian |
for example |
05:15 |
|
eythian |
I guess that must use ssh |
05:15 |
|
mtj |
hey eythian, got a tic? |
05:15 |
|
dcook |
yeah probably uses ssh |
05:15 |
|
* dcook |
will give it a go |
05:15 |
|
eythian |
mtj: sup |
05:15 |
|
mtj |
..any idea what the next 3.16.x version should be? |
05:16 |
|
mtj |
ie: the version i'm about to release |
05:16 |
|
mtj |
current version is 3.16.04.000 |
05:16 |
|
eythian |
3.16.05.000 I guess. |
05:16 |
|
dcook |
Hmm ssh was better... |
05:16 |
|
eythian |
jcamins is likely to be able to help you more accurately |
05:17 |
|
jcamins |
mtj: 3.16.05. |
05:17 |
|
dcook |
Something isn't working along the line though.. |
05:17 |
|
eythian |
mtj: if you're planning to push it in the next little while, I'll hang around and publish the packages right after |
05:17 |
|
jcamins |
Unless you already tagged 3.16.05, in which case, 3.16.06. |
05:17 |
|
mtj |
thanx jcamins |
05:18 |
|
mtj |
eythian: yep, im hoping to push soon |
05:18 |
|
eythian |
cool |
05:18 |
|
eythian |
then I have to go to a VIP party :D |
05:19 |
|
mtj |
LUCKY! |
05:19 |
|
eythian |
the things we have do to :) |
05:20 |
|
dcook |
Hmm.. |
05:20 |
|
dcook |
So my key is working... but still failing when I try pushing |
05:20 |
|
dcook |
No, not even pushing |
05:20 |
|
dcook |
Just trying to do "git remote show origin" |
05:21 |
|
eythian |
what does failing mean in this context? |
05:21 |
|
dcook |
Permission denied :S |
05:21 |
|
mtj |
hey jcamins, can you recall how to generate the koha release-notes? |
05:21 |
|
dcook |
Even though if I try SSHing directly, I authenticate fine |
05:22 |
|
dcook |
I must've set up the url wrong.. |
05:22 |
|
jcamins |
mtj: yes, use the script. |
05:22 |
|
jcamins |
Or, even better, use release-tool.pl. |
05:22 |
|
jcamins |
IMO |
05:24 |
|
dcook |
Yep, set up the url wrong |
05:24 |
|
jcamins |
Good night. |
05:24 |
|
wahanui |
Don't go, jcamins. Stay a while. Stay forever. |
05:25 |
|
dcook |
Forever... forever... |
05:25 |
|
mtj |
hmm, i dont know the name of the script, and 'release-tool.pl' is not in the koha repo |
05:26 |
|
eythian |
is it wikied somewhere? |
05:26 |
|
mtj |
rangi: abouty? |
05:27 |
|
mtj |
ta, ill take a look |
05:28 |
|
dcook |
mtj: I think there's a repo somewhere that has release-tool.pl in it |
05:28 |
|
dcook |
tcohen would know |
05:28 |
|
mtj |
ah, moar info.. http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]lease_maintenance |
05:28 |
|
dcook |
I know I've seen it |
05:28 |
|
mtj |
'Release notes are automatically generated by the get_bugs.pl script from the release-tools repo.' |
05:28 |
|
dcook |
Huzzah. Finally pushed to Github for the first time. |
05:29 |
|
mtj |
mtj-- for missing that ^ |
05:29 |
|
huginn |
mtj: Error: You're not allowed to adjust your own karma. |
05:29 |
|
* dcook |
had to listen to Slayer after wahanui's staying forever remark |
05:29 |
|
dcook |
Hmm, no comment from wahanui |
05:34 |
|
* eythian |
adds some duolingo XP while he waits |
05:45 |
|
mtompset |
Windows XP? ;) |
05:46 |
|
eythian |
no swearing, mtompset |
05:47 |
|
mtompset |
Not swearing. Just sad that the Z3950 perl library and Text::Bidi didn't like Strawberry Perl in Windows. |
05:57 |
|
eythian |
mtj: any progress? |
05:59 |
|
mtj |
yep, very close... but now on fone to dad?! |
06:04 |
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06:05 |
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mtj |
hmm, ive autogened the release notes.. but my patch didnt get listed in the notes.txt.. |
06:06 |
|
eythian |
http://ww.reddit.com/r/languag[…]_week_m%C4%81ori/ <-- rangi |
06:15 |
|
eythian |
mtj: I have to go fairly soon, any ETA? |
06:19 |
|
mtj |
hey eythian, something is a little goofy with my release notes.. |
06:29 |
|
eythian |
mtj: I have to head off now, I'll hopefully get to that tomorrow. |
06:29 |
|
eythian |
http://youtu.be/8vXHWQF2-uY <-- mtj, rangi, wizzyrea |
06:29 |
|
mtj |
no probs lil' buddy |
06:29 |
|
mtj |
im (hopefully) about 5 mins away from a push |
06:30 |
|
mtj |
..have a very important time eythian :) |
06:43 |
|
mtompset |
Have a good day, #koha. |
06:51 |
|
mtj |
hmm, ive managed to push my commits to the 3.16.x branch (good) |
06:51 |
|
mtj |
..but i'm getting an error, when attempting to push my new 'v3.16.05' tag |
06:52 |
|
mtj |
rangi: do i lack some access rights on the kc box, to push/create tags? |
06:53 |
|
jenkins_koha |
Starting build #31 for job Koha_3.16.x_U14 (previous build: FAILURE) |
06:54 |
|
* magnuse |
waves |
06:56 |
|
mtj |
hey magnuse |
06:56 |
|
magnuse |
kia ora mtj |
06:56 |
|
rangi |
mtj: try that |
06:57 |
|
pastebot |
"mtj" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "pushing a tag, fails" (12 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/310 |
06:57 |
|
magnuse |
ooh, slayer! |
06:58 |
|
mtj |
1 tic.. |
06:58 |
|
mtj |
ta rangi, fixed -> http://git.koha-community.org/[…]refs/heads/3.16.x |
06:58 |
|
rangi |
you cool |
06:59 |
|
magnuse |
mtj++ |
06:59 |
|
rangi |
you might want to edit your release notes so taht it says its a security release, and add the data about that, (I did that for mine) |
06:59 |
|
mtj |
hey, i just noticed the XSS bug didnt show up in the rel_notes.txt |
06:59 |
|
mtj |
yeah, snap |
07:02 |
|
mtj |
rangi, whats the policy on fixing a commit, thats already pushed to the KC repo |
07:02 |
|
rangi |
you'll have to do another one |
07:02 |
|
rangi |
and retag |
07:03 |
|
mtj |
ok, np |
07:03 |
|
rangi |
or you could just fix it when you post the release notes to the koha-community.org site |
07:05 |
|
mtj |
rangi: can i reuse the 'v3.16.05' tag? |
07:05 |
|
mtj |
or must i use another one |
07:06 |
|
mtj |
ie: can i delete my local tag, make a new one |
07:06 |
|
mtj |
..then force/push that new tag to a remote |
07:06 |
|
mtj |
is that what you mean by a 'retag' |
07:07 |
|
mtj |
can i reuse the same tag name - or must i always use a different one, now ive pushed that tag remotely |
07:08 |
|
rangi |
just tag again with the same tag |
07:09 |
|
rangi |
if you cant do that, juts dont worry |
07:09 |
|
rangi |
cos the important bits of that commit are the version number |
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mtj |
ooh, success |
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mtj |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]refs/heads/3.16.x |
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mtj |
retagged |
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rangi |
cool |
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mtj |
was not so hard :0) |
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cait |
rangi++ mtj++ |
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mtj |
..mainly because of the awsome release info, in the wiki |
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mtj |
hiya cait |
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magnuse |
eythian is probably not around to build a package from that? |
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mtj |
yeah, he just left(ish) magnuse |
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magnuse |
ish? :-) |
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magnuse |
rangi: "a freeboard #kohails dashboard" sounds interesting |
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rangi |
yeah we'll put it up somewhere to look at sometime next week |
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magnuse |
does it monitor one instance or the koha project? |
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Project Koha_3.16.x_U14 build #31: NOW UNSTABLE in 30 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_3.16.x_U14/31/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* Chris Cormack: Bug 13425 - XSS in opac facets - Patch for 3.16 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Mason James: Increment version for 3.16.5 release |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13425 is not accessible. |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #32 for job Koha_3.16.x_U14 (previous build: FAILURE) |
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jenkins_koha |
Yippee, build fixed! |
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wahanui |
o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.16.x_D7 build #28: FIXED in 25 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]oha_3.16.x_D7/28/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* Chris Cormack: Bug 13425 - XSS in opac facets - Patch for 3.16 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Mason James: Increment version for 3.16.5 release |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13425 is not accessible. |
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Project Koha_3.16.x_U12 build #29: FAILURE in 13 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_3.16.x_U12/29/ |
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reiveune |
hello |
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magnuse |
ouch "ERROR: Error fetching remote repo 'origin'" http://jenkins.koha-community.[…].x_U12/29/console |
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drojf |
good morning #koha |
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drojf |
@later tell mtompset Woohoo! :D |
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huginn |
drojf: The operation succeeded. |
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Mason James: fix typo in release notes |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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wahanui |
what's up, alex_a |
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Joubu |
hello |
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wahanui |
hola, Joubu |
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hello |
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Joubu |
rangi: I agree, I will move the patch to its own bug report |
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nlegrand |
Ooh ! Aah ! Koha ! |
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magnuse |
nlegrand: yay! |
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magnuse |
looks like bug 13396 will be a stumbling block for people who upgrade to 3.18 with the packages |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13396 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , koha-rebuild-zebra: Couldn't open collection.abs error after 3.18 package update |
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akafred |
Hi all - I am looking for performance data on misc/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.pl ... ran an import of 1.472.512 records to Koha 3.18.00 which took about 19 hours ... is that expected? |
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magnuse |
it does sound a bit slow, but i have no experience with those kinds of numbers... |
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magnuse |
maybe someone at biblibre, like gaetan_B? |
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gaetan_B |
akafred: hello :) i am not surprised that this was long, it even sounds fairly reasonable for such a large amount of data if you ask me |
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gaetan_B |
when we import data for migrations, we don't use bulkmarcimport actually, we have custom scripts |
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akafred |
We have to think about our migration window ... and 19 hours just for this part gives no buffer if something needs to be rerun ... |
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akafred |
By 'custom scripts' you mean? |
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Joubu |
akafred: you could try to use this script with 10 records and profile the execution of the script. To know where the processing time is elapsed |
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gaetan_B |
we have script interacting directly with the koha functions to migrate, but i can't tell you much more about this |
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gaetan_B |
for a migration though, especially a large one, you will have to plan some buffer for the case where things can go wrong, and my opinion is that it does involve telling the librarians they will have to stop providing service for a while ;) |
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magnuse |
ooh, secret sauce ;-) |
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gaetan_B |
maybe only one or two days of not loaning documents |
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gaetan_B |
to be on the safe side |
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gaetan_B |
because if your migration window is "sunday" and things are not looking as you were hoping on monday morning, it will be a really sad monday |
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gaetan_B |
i'm not saying i can't tell you more about the secret sauce because it's secret, it's just that i am not a specialist about this ;) |
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mtj |
akafred: try disabling your zebra indexing when importing |
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mtj |
..then a full index, after |
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Joubu |
yes mtj is right, I was exactly looking at that. |
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magnuse |
good idea |
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Joubu |
but not sure to gain a lot of time |
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magnuse |
would be interesting to see how much effect it has |
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akafred |
... we can suspend zebra ... |
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mtj |
yes :) |
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magnuse |
koha-stop-zebra is your friend |
10:39 |
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mtj |
akafred: 19 hours is very slow - i recently did 1.9 million records, in hmm 4 hours |
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Joubu |
but the script searches for duplicates, using zebra of course |
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magnuse |
is there some way to turn that off? |
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Joubu |
be care if you use this feature |
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magnuse |
would that be "-fk Turn off foreign key checks during import"? |
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akafred |
Another interesting observation about bulkmarcimport.pl is that CPU-usage tops out at about 125% (on an 8 core machine) so it seems pretty much single threaded (or it is IO-bound, haven't looked at those stats, but I am guessing it is not). We see a slight increase in load during the import,which i am guessing is caused because of indexing a bigger index... |
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akafred |
mtj: on 2.16 or 3.18? |
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akafred |
i meant 3.16 |
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mtj |
hmm 3.14 |
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Malik____ |
Hello everyone i am trying to configure GSM Modem for SMS Service but i can't get the drivers for koha can anyone tell me about right configuration of GSM Modem for Koha on Ubuntu |
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akafred |
We have a theory that we ran bulkmarcimport faster on 3.16, but haven't tried to reproduce. Could there be a performance regression? |
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Joubu |
Malik____: http://www.gsm-modem.de/ ? |
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Joubu |
Malik____: I did not find a driver for them on the cpan. You will have to write it yourself |
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Malik____ |
how i can right |
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mtj |
https://metacpan.org/pod/Device::Gsm |
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mtj |
Malik____: that looks quite good ^ |
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Joubu |
akafred: could be good to know :) And quite easy to test, with 10k records |
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mtj |
you should try that one |
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mtj |
akafred: i have been thinking about using ram or ssd, to speed up importing |
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Joubu |
Malik____: follow the link mtj sent, I completely misunderstood... |
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mtj |
a ramfs perhaps |
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Malik____ |
i am checking that and trying to install that |
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mtj |
Malik____: you can use an SMS service too - if you can not get your modem working |
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Malik____ |
i have checked all services like clickatell talking itive etc but there API are not workin in pakistan so i preffered to use GSM Device |
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mtj |
hmm , ok |
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mtj |
oops, tmpfs - not ramfs |
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cait |
drojf++ |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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cait |
hi oleonard |
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oleonard |
I get so mixed up about testing translation bugs... |
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oleonard |
cait does my test plan on Bug 13400 look correct? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13400 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Failed QA , Untranslatable "Are you sure you want to delete this authority?" |
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cait |
sec |
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cait |
oleonard: if you edit the po file, one reason it might fail is a 'fuzzy' marker |
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cait |
if there is a fuzzy in one o the comments for the entry, you also need to delete that |
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cait |
your test plan looks correct |
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cait |
just looking for a reaosn why it might have failed |
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oleonard |
Okay I'll bet that was it |
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oleonard |
Yeah I'll re-test |
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cait |
otherwise... not sure - was confirm the one that we had problems with before? |
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oleonard |
Yes, but I don't think that's the reason in this case because it looks similar to other instances which seem to be working |
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oleonard |
Yup that was it. Thanks cait |
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cait |
np |
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oleonard |
I'm always surprised that these translation bugs keep popping up |
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F0undation |
Hello again! Q: Anyone encountered the error "No branchcode argument passed to Koha::Calendar->new at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Circulation.pm line 3382" already, and know how to fix it? |
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F0undation |
Happens when I try to checkout anything |
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oleonard |
F0undation: Do your items have library branch codes for home and holding branch? |
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F0undation |
oleaonard: Yes, I've set those - even though we're only 1 library without branches, so it's all the same code |
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cait |
do you have holidays in your calendar? |
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cait |
maybe it's something in that area |
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F0undation |
our library is open 24/7 for the moment :) |
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F0undation |
tried from https://www.marshut.net/ktmqkm/check-in-error.pdf also to look at shelving location - but that didn't help (also isn't something we use, and is as far as I can see no mandatory field) |
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oleonard |
This seems to be the same issue but it's not clear to me with the solution was: https://www.mail-archive.com/k[…].nz/msg12432.html |
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oleonard |
"shelving location was missing" ... Shelving location shouldn't be mandatory. |
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F0undation |
ah, got it! it was the CircControl pref, which was set to "library the item is from". Setting it to "library you're logged in at" solves it |
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cait |
hm i think maybe it was confusion - we have lots of libaries not using it |
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cait |
sounds a bit like a bug |
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oleonard |
My test system is set up to use "library the item is from" and I don't have any problems with check-in. |
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F0undation |
Upon further investigation: I've got circulation rules and defaults set for "all libraries". But not for my specific named library: upon selecting there it said "defaults not set". Think that might've been the issue. |
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oleonard |
I don't think so |
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oleonard |
The defaults for "all libraries" should work |
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nlegrand |
I'm working on an RFC for managing books circulation from closed stacks. For the question "how do I know the book is in closed stacks" should I fiddle with bug 737 and <http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Shelf_Map_RFC>? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=737 enhancement, P2, ---, magnus, NEW , Map of library in search system |
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cait |
nlegrand: i think it might dpeendon how exactly you need to know |
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cait |
woudl a location work or does it need to be graphical to the user? |
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nlegrand |
It doesn't need to be graphical, the user should just see it's not publicly available and should be able to ask for it from the OPAC |
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drojf |
i like the idea of hidden stacks that you have to search using maps or geo coordinates |
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cait |
heh of course :) |
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drojf |
don't listen to me, i only slept 3 hours |
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nlegrand |
:D |
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drojf |
hi cait :) |
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cait |
nlegrand: i think the map is a bit different idea then, maybe not mix |
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cait |
have to go... dentist :( |
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drojf |
nlegrand: what cait says, i think the map feature has a different scope |
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drojf |
oh look, i posted on that bug years ago. heh |
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nlegrand |
ok :) |
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oleonard |
nlegrand: I'm curious what some of the issues are for closed stacks. What kind of changes are you thinking of? |
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drojf |
*puts the map thingy on the »projects to do with more koha playtime« pile* |
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drojf |
oh, it was already there :D |
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nlegrand |
oleonard: it's what have been done at BULAC library with a 3.2 version. Sadely, the code is hardly portable to 3.18 (lots of hardcoding stuff and BULAC specificities in it). |
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nlegrand |
problem statement is a bit like this: koha should be able to know an item is in closed stack and propose the patron to ask for it. When the librarian checked the asked items, he retrieve them from closed stacks and koha should be able to say to the patron "your book is waiting at desk x". |
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nlegrand |
oleonard: do you know people managing circulation in closed stack with koha? |
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oleonard |
No I don't |
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oleonard |
...but my first library job was working with a closed stack collection, so I see what you're talking about. |
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nlegrand |
:) we have more than 800000 items in closed stacks, it's an important feature for us ^^ |
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drojf |
maybe a combination of onsitecheckout and a new location (where to pick it up)? |
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nlegrand |
ho, I don't know about on-site checkout feature, where can I read about it? I failed to find it in documentation. |
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oleonard |
It's new in 3.18 nlegrand |
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oleonard |
But even with those options you don't have the request and notification pieces you want |
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Joubu |
nlegrand: did you read the description of the bug report? bug 10860 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10860 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , On-site checkouts (was In-House Use) |
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Joubu |
nlegrand: the feature does not do a lot of things |
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nlegrand |
Got it, thanks. |
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Joubu |
nlegrand: feel free to ask me if you have a question |
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nlegrand |
Joubu: thanks :) |
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tcohen |
hi there |
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Joubu |
Hi tcohen |
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Joubu |
Did you sleep well? ;) |
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tcohen |
i'm getting used to sleep a couple hours in a row |
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tcohen |
an hour break, and so on |
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tcohen |
heh |
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tcohen |
Manuel is now sleeping |
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ashimema |
ooh.. hello tcohen |
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oleonard |
Hi tcohen, and congratulations! |
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ashimema |
congrats |
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* oleonard |
remembers that sleep-deprived time very well |
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tcohen |
heh |
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ashimema |
anyone here know how sip connections work? |
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tcohen |
http://snag.gy/5qUE9.jpg |
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ashimema |
Colin's away for a week.. and of course.. that's the week they all go wrong ;) |
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ashimema |
awww.. |
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ashimema |
got my other half cooing here ;) |
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tcohen |
;) |
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* cait |
waves |
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cait |
hi tcohen :) |
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cait |
cute baby :) |
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cait |
ashimema: want me to brainstorm with you? |
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cait |
i am probably not much help, but at least i got it running on the laptop in the past |
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gaetan_B |
bye |
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ashimema |
it's the specifics of how the connections work i'm interseted in. |
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ashimema |
*interested.. |
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ashimema |
I have a feeling what these guys are doing is plain never gonna work |
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cait |
are you using an ssh tunnel? |
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cait |
i might sound silly :) |
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ashimema |
don't think so with this customers. |
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ashimema |
they're sticking it behind a proxy. service which seems to be changing it's ip eratically.. |
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ashimema |
so I'm not sure how a connection will ever be especialyl persistent.. |
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cait |
hm |
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tcohen |
hi cait!! |
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* tcohen |
is cooking |
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cait |
i will do that in a minute too :) |
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cait |
what are you making? |
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cait |
and how is the little one? |
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cait |
and the lovely wife? |
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bag |
hey cait and tcohen |
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barton |
hi #koha! |
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oleonard |
How's it going barton? |
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barton |
I've got an interesting little blivit with the label creator: Sometimes the last line of the label is converted to upper case, some times it is not. |
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barton |
It's splitting the call number... |
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cait |
hm maybe something with the callnumber splitting algorithm? |
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cait |
i think that depends on what you have in $2 - the classification source |
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barton |
for example "NMI F 19.6 .F64 Spe" => "NMI .F 19.6 .F64 SPE", but "NMI PR 3403 .A1 Cru" => "NMI PR 3403 .A1 Cru" |
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oleonard |
barton: If all else fails you can try chanting chris_n's name three times while staring into the mirror of a darkened bathroom while holding a single lit candle. |
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barton |
cait: good call. |
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barton |
cn_source of 'dcc' is not converted to capitals, whereas 'lcc' is. |
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barton |
although I very much like oleonard's idea as well. |
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cait |
:) |
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* barton |
wonders whether learning mauri tradition/religion would help trouble-shooting Koha. |
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barton |
oh, and ... |
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barton |
cait++ |
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barton |
:-) |
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cait |
:) |
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notes he will be back in about an hour or so and check back in with barton |
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cait |
... it worked! |
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barton |
chris_n: I think that I'm all set, actually... unless you're offering to teach me something about the internals of koha and call number splitting, in which case I'm all ears. |
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i.e. my immediate problem is solved, but I'm always eager to learn. |
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chris_n |
barton: you can run the label call number split tests with variation of what you pass in and what you expect out and see if the algorithm works on a given call number as you expect |
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chris_n |
ie |
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chris_n |
perl Labels_split_lccn.t 'NMI F 19.6 .F64 Spe' 'NMI,.F,19.6,.F64,SPE' |
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barton |
chris_n: sure, I'll give that a shot. |
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chris_n |
although that looks like a ddcn |
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chris_n |
both lccn and ddcn algorithms appear to expect lowercase out in both cases |
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barton |
hmm. |
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chris_n |
so there maybe something munging with it at some point after that in the real code |
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barton |
I wonder whether the LCCN might be up-cased during normalization. |
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barton |
... I might look at cn_sort to see... |
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chris_n |
that could be |
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chris_n |
there is some normalization effects which are done by a Koha dependency |
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chris_n |
I have submitted a patch to fix it to the package maintainer, but don't think it has been applied yet |
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* chris_n |
looks |
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chris_n |
well, there it sits... still |
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chris_n |
https://code.google.com/p/libr[…]ssues/detail?id=7 |
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* chris_n |
pokes gmcharlt |
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chris_n |
barton: feel free to add a comment to the bug encouraging the package maintainer to push the fix |
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chris_n |
and I'd bet that is the source of your problem |
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chris_n |
bug 10821 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10821 major, P1 - high, ---, cnighswonger, CLOSED WONTFIX, label pdf adding in strange breaking |
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barton |
Yeah, I was just reading through that bug ... |
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barton |
chris_n: by 'package maintainer', I presume that you mean the maintainer of Library::CallNumber::LC? |
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chris_n |
right |
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chris_n |
as you can tell from the discussion on that koha bug, it is rather a problem for some |
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barton |
Right. |
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barton |
chris_n: I was able to vote by clicking the star icon next to defect ID 7 here: https://code.google.com/p/libr[…]callnumber-lc%3A7 |
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chris_n |
great |
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barton |
I would encourage other members of the community who have been bitten by this to do so as well. |
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* chris_n |
wishes the entire Koha community would vote |
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wizzyrea |
mauri? |
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chris_n |
hey wizzyrea |
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wahanui |
wizzyrea is a Cylon, and they all have plans. |
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barton |
HA |
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chris_n |
I hope those plans include voting up the above mentioned fix |
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wizzyrea |
are you sure someone is actually paying attention to that? |
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wizzyrea |
also it's Maori ;) |
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ibeardslee |
MÄori |
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ibeardslee |
;) |
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wizzyrea |
you win |
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barton |
wizzyrea: regarding the mauri (or Maori, mea culpa), I was looking for rituals which wouild help fix the capitalization issue on spine labels. oleonard suggested saying chris_n's name 3 times while doing something ritualistic... anyway, it turns out that clicking the 'star' icon, as mentioned above, is far more powerful magic. |
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wizzyrea |
aren't you at kiwicon ibeardslee? |
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wizzyrea |
if you are WHY ARE YOU ONLINE |
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* wizzyrea |
is cynical |
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wizzyrea |
at least you feel like you're "doing somethign" |
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chris_n |
ok, I've added an announcement to the next general IRC meeting agenda to highlight this issue |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: yes, actually. |
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jcamins |
A cynical Cylon with plans? |
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wizzyrea |
extremely. |
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burdsjm_ |
Does anyone have a recently returned books feed on their website? |
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wizzyrea |
no, but it wouldn't be hard to do with a public report |
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wizzyrea |
I suspect it'd be a lot more boring than you imagine. |
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jcamins |
Or a little too much like drinking from a fire hose. |
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burdsjm_ |
Well boring or not our director wants it |
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wizzyrea |
@quote get 123 |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
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wahanui |
http://xkcd.com/1172/ |
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* chris_n |
offers jcamins chocolate in exchange for voting up the above mentioned L::CN::LC bug |
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burdsjm_ |
We use to have one with horizon that let us link them to the catalog so people could click on them and go directly to the item info |
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jcamins |
chris_n: I decided to go straight to the source and ask the maintainer about it. |
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wizzyrea |
ah the old "make it like horizon" |
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chris_n |
I tried that months back, I think |
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chris_n |
so did gmcharlt |
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chris_n |
ok, off to roll up a PDF::Reuse release |
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burdsjm_ |
Horizon didn't do it it was an sql trigger that fired when the page loaded. a pretty hack job when I did it. |
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jcamins |
He said he'd try to post a response soon. |
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wizzyrea |
how many are you wanting to show at once?> |
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burdsjm_ |
3 at a time |
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burdsjm_ |
I have a public report that gives the info now but how to change them to links is beyond me |
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wizzyrea |
sql report library? |
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wahanui |
it has been said that sql report library is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library |
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wizzyrea |
^ has a section about that. |
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burdsjm_ |
Thanks I'll look through it |
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wizzyrea |
you'll probably also want to investigate displaying json data in a webpage. |
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burdsjm_ |
our website vendor gave me the no json only iframe |
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WaylonR |
hiya all |
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wizzyrea |
who's your website vendor? |
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burdsjm_ |
CivicPlus |
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burdsjm_ |
out of Kansas |
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wizzyrea |
never heard of them |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: but they're Kansan! |
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wizzyrea |
heh |
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chris_n |
its alive! |
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chris_n |
PDF::Reuse 0.36 that is |
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* chris_n |
heads out |
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cait |
good night all |
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just got a notification from that defect report I cynically starred. |
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barton_away |
chris_n: The magic star worked!!! I just got a reply in my inbox: Many apologies for letting this linger! The patch looks reasonable at first glance, so I'll get a new version rolled ASAP. Thanks for the help, and the reminder! |
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barton_away |
... well, clicking on the link, that seems to be his reply to you, not to my 'star' but ... anyway... |
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wizzyrea |
hassling, it occasionally works |
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dcook |
:) |
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dcook |
Which reminds me I need to email the deja dup maintainer some time... |
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dcook |
He was so prompt with his emails. I'm a jerk for not answering more promptly in return. |
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dcook |
eythian: you around for a quick package question? |
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dcook |
Or really anyone familiar with the debian packages for Koha |
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dcook |
Well, familiar with how they gather dependencies.. |
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dcook |
Ah, might've answered my own question |
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dcook |
"idzebra-2.0" |
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wizzyrea |
nope, he's at kiwicon |
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dcook |
Mmm, that he might be |
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wizzyrea |
no might about it ;) |
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dcook |
Ah, my bad. typo |
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dcook |
I think that he might be* |
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dcook |
I thought* |
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dcook |
Man dcook... |
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dcook |
Learn to type |
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wizzyrea |
lol |
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dcook |
Ahh so halcyonCorsair used to be at Catalyst? I've been taking a look at this -> https://github.com/halcyonCorsair/chef-koha |
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wizzyrea |
seems likely, that stuff is stuff we use here |
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dcook |
Yeah? |
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dcook |
You guys deploy using Chef? :S |
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wizzyrea |
nope, we use debian packages |
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* wizzyrea |
was looking more at the fabric deploy for drupal |
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dcook |
Mmm |
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wizzyrea |
I think he did that as an exercis |
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dcook |
I gotcha |
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wizzyrea |
exercise |
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wahanui |
i heard exercise was important! |
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dcook |
Yeah, seems like |
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wizzyrea |
indeed. |
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wizzyrea |
we have conflicted feelings about ruby. |
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dcook |
hehe fair enough |
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dcook |
Fortunately, with Amazon OpsWorks, I don't have to worry about it too much |
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dcook |
I write the recipes and then give them to Amazon |
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wizzyrea |
https://soundcloud.com/element[…]pretties-champion |
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wizzyrea |
for no good reason other than rangi isn't here to populate your playlists. |
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dcook |
hehe |
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dcook |
Listening to Massive Attack already, so it's a bit of a genre jump, me thinks |
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wizzyrea |
mmmm shouldn't be too far |
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wizzyrea |
well besides "not electronic" vs "electronic" |
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wizzyrea |
^ they're from wellington |
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wizzyrea |
...and I didn't know that when I started listening to them. |
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dcook |
Yeah, I think rangi might've mentioned them earlier in the year because of a festival or something.. |
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wizzyrea |
hm probably |
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dcook |
Hmm, I think I'm going to just try to do this gradually.. |
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dcook |
Tempting to use some of those koha packages without using koha or koha-common though |
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wizzyrea |
what are you trying to do? |
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dcook |
No idea what the purpose of "koha-perldeps" and "koha-deps" is though |
23:48 |
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dcook |
Mmm, that's a good question |
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wizzyrea |
so you can install the dependencies without installing the full koha package |
23:48 |
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dcook |
Setting up a EC2 instance that is ready for Koha... without a Koha installed |
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dcook |
wizzyrea: But why would someone (besides me) want to do that? |
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wizzyrea |
say, for a not-gitify developer install |
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dcook |
Is that by design? |
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wizzyrea |
because they are lazy and don't want to get all the dependencies manually |
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dcook |
<--- |
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dcook |
That's me :) lazy and don't want to manually handle the deps |
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wizzyrea |
i mean, what better reason do you need than "laziness" |
23:49 |
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wizzyrea |
it's the reason most things get done in IT. |
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dcook |
Well, I just wanted to check if it's intentional or a byproduct of something else |
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wizzyrea |
I don't think I can answer that. liw might be able to, he wrote most of the original packaging stuff |
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dcook |
Yeah, I need to corner liw one of these days and talk his ear off |
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dcook |
@seen mtompset |
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huginn |
dcook: mtompset was last seen in #koha 17 hours, 7 minutes, and 33 seconds ago: <mtompset> Have a good day, #koha. |
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dcook |
mtompset++ |
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dcook |
@later tell mtompset Good one for the instructions at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]a_on_ubuntu_-_git :) |
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huginn |
dcook: The operation succeeded. |
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dcook |
So glad to be using a Ubuntu EC2 instance |
23:52 |
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dcook |
Maybe one day we'll use Debian/Ubuntu for all our Koha instances.. |
23:52 |
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dcook |
A boy can but dream |
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wizzyrea |
what's the reasoning for using opensuse? |
23:53 |
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wizzyrea |
or whatever it is you're using |
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dcook |
I'm not really sure |
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dcook |
I think familiarity |
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dcook |
And a few command line tools that aren't in Debian/Ubuntu |
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wizzyrea |
example? |
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wahanui |
i heard example was probably a status change |
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* wizzyrea |
is nosy |
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dcook |
hehe |
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dcook |
I'm not 100% sure |
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dcook |
I think yast is one of them |
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wizzyrea |
i'm sure there is a workable equivalent to that for debian/ubuntu |
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dcook |
Probably :) |