IRC log for #koha, 2014-11-28

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00:20 jcamins eythian: is koha-backup supposed to be installed by the Debian packages?
00:22 jcamins Oh, there's why.
00:22 jcamins It's called koha-dump. No wonder I can't seem to find the file anywhere.
00:40 dcook[…]x::Class_Problems
00:40 dcook Quite the list now
00:42 eythian jcamins: yes.
00:43 jcamins eythian: I never need to run it by hand, so remembering the name of the script is not important.
00:43 eythian yeah. It's named like the dump/restore filesystem things
00:44 wizzyrea koha-run-backups or something
00:45 eythian well that's different
00:45 eythian that manages the backup process
00:46 eythian as opposed to dumping the actual files
00:46 wizzyrea just if someone was looking for something koha-*backup
00:46 wizzyrea that's probably the thing they saw
00:57 jcamins wizzyrea: yeah, I knew about that, but was trying to create the sql and tar files.
00:57 jcamins For just one instance.
00:58 dcook git++
01:07 dcook Mmm lunch time at lunch time...
01:07 * dcook is tempted to have three poutine burgers in three days but thinks that might not be the best idea
01:07 wizzyrea we like your heart beating.
01:08 jcamins dcook: are you in Canada?
01:08 dcook jcamins: No,  but how else to show Australia how Canadian I am?
01:08 dcook wizzyrea: D'aww
01:10 wizzyrea hey dcook, how canadian are you?
01:10 wizzyrea eh?
01:11 dcook :p
01:11 dcook I suppose I could be more Canadian
01:29 wizzyrea vagrant?
01:29 wahanui well, vagrant is an automated VM provisioner:
01:29 wizzyrea vagrant?
01:29 wahanui somebody said vagrant was an automated VM provisioner:
01:29 wizzyrea hrmph.
01:29 wizzyrea norwegian thing?
01:29 wizzyrea kohadevbox?
01:29 wahanui kohadevbox is, like, at
01:32 dcook Hmm
01:33 dcook How could git bz be set up and ready to use?
01:33 dcook Ah, I see. Instructions below.
01:34 dcook Cool
01:38 wizzyrea it was super slick when I did it
01:47 dcook I really  should give it a go sometime
01:47 dcook Right now... looking at DBIx::Class::Schema::Loader hooks :D
01:48 dcook Oh yeah... I think this should work well for what I have in mind...
01:48 dcook Hopefully we'll only be using DBIx::Class::Schema::Loader for a limited period of time... but should probably write the right hooks so we have the right classes to go off of for the future...
01:49 dcook This might actually solve most of the problems I'm seeing..
01:49 dcook Well, I shouldn't get ahead of myself..
02:00 dcook Ahhh...tricksy MySQL
02:00 dcook No wonder all the integers are defaulting to 11
02:01 dcook Well then agaijn..
02:01 dcook Yep
02:01 dcook They store them all with the maximum numeric precision
02:02 dcook But must parse the column_type individually to get the actual precision specified when defining the data type...
02:04 dcook Well... that's a thing
02:08 dcook DBIx::Class::Schema::Loader::DBI::mysql, you're a jerk!
02:08 dcook elsif ($info->{data_type} eq 'double') {
02:08 dcook $info->{data_type} = 'double precision';
02:08 dcook }
02:08 dcook Not helpful!
02:09 dcook Must be there for some reason but just seems to cause problems
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03:38 wajasu @later tell ethian: I'll attempt to build the packages (probably Friday, since I'm too full to test)
03:38 huginn wajasu: The operation succeeded.
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05:16 ngourlay there's no Nickserv on oftc?
05:23 wajasu eythian: i signed off bug 13359, hopefully its helpful for your packaging
05:23 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13359 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Signed Off , provide virtual-mysql-server Depends On to facilitate alternate mysql implementations
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05:32 * Oak waves
05:51 ashimema todays the day, todays the day :)
05:51 ashimema morning #koha
05:51 wajasu my day is over.   zzz zzz zzz
05:52 ashimema nighty night wajasu
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05:54 dcook yo ashimema
05:54 dcook Solved that issue from last night :)
05:54 dcook the column referenced by the foreign key wasn't indexed
05:54 dcook And InnoDB and MySQL doesn't like when that happens
05:55 ashimema I see..
05:55 dcook You might not remember me posting some SQL last night that looked perfectly fine :p
05:55 ashimema sql can sometimes be a real mystery
05:55 dcook Well, that's not really sql
05:55 dcook That's MySQL
05:55 ashimema I remember..
05:56 ashimema lots has happened since last night though ;)
05:56 dcook On a related note, check this out: But was getting an
05:56 dcook Ack
05:56 dcook Oh yes it has
05:56 dcook ->[…]x::Class_Problems
05:56 dcook I got 99 problems, and they're all related to DBIC
05:56 ashimema dang
05:57 ashimema nicely documented..
05:57 ashimema hopefully we can work on fixing them :)
05:57 dcook Well, I have fixes for quite a few of them :)
05:57 ashimema awesome..
05:57 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, ashimema
05:57 dcook Well, workarounds in a few cases
05:57 dcook One config change
05:57 dcook And...
05:57 ashimema be nice to have allot of them implimented to 3.2-
05:57 ashimema be nice to have allot of them implimented to 3.20
05:57 dcook A few ideas about schema changes to happen now
05:57 dcook Totes
05:58 dcook Documentation probably needs a bit of tweaking as "solved" doesn't mean fixed
05:58 ashimema how on earth did we get to a state where the dbic schema has extra talbes?
05:58 ashimema that baffles me
05:59 dcook I know right?
05:59 dcook I need to look up that commit..
05:59 dcook I think the extra foreign keys were on purpose
05:59 dcook Although the one on biblio seems like a bad idea
05:59 ashimema the keys I can understand..
05:59 dcook A really bad idea actually
05:59 ashimema the tables just seems wierd
06:00 dcook Yeah, the tables are super weird
06:00 ashimema have you played with the koha::object stuff at all dcook?
06:01 dcook Mmm, not so much played as critiqued
06:01 dcook But I'm intrigued
06:01 dcook Well, sort of
06:01 dcook I just don't see it working well in a lot of cases
06:01 dcook some of which I put up on the bug
06:01 ashimema mmm.. I go up and down on them allot..
06:01 ashimema at the moment I'm in the camp of 'their just making my life harder'
06:02 dcook Yep
06:02 ashimema klkl
06:02 ashimema for the simple case they're cool..
06:02 ashimema but do anything tricky and I keep reaching for dbic instead
06:02 ashimema which is not really the point ;)
06:03 ashimema dcook.. with all your comments, you should be on the qa team ;)
06:03 ashimema we could do with more people in qa
06:09 dcook Hmm, that's a good point :p
06:09 dcook I suppose I'm never sure if my comments are worth failing things
06:09 dcook So much as just having discussion
06:09 dcook But that's a good point
06:10 dcook I've been following the bugs listserv more as well..
06:10 dcook Although I only comment on things I care about at the moment :p
06:10 dcook Of course, I guess I care about a lot of things
06:12 ashimema being part of the team would allow you to pass some things ;)
06:12 dcook Hmm, that would be handy
06:12 ashimema anyone can fail something in my opinion.. that draws it to qa/rm's attention to look into it further..
06:12 ashimema but in theory only qa team members can pass..
06:12 dcook That's true
06:13 dcook Hmm, lots of problems with DBIC... or rather... problems with using DBIC::Schema::Loader
06:13 ashimema and I think the amount of comments you give on occasions proves your looking at the right things ;)
06:13 wajasu i think bug 13218 might need its status changed to signed off.
06:13 dcook Most of these problems could be avoided if we stopped using DBIC::Schema::Loader...
06:13 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13218 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, liz, Needs Signoff , usability enhancement for z39.50 search
06:14 dcook Possibly. I'd have to look more, wajasu. I think Liz added some extra code after the last sign off
06:14 dcook Might be able to let QA take a look at that now though..
06:16 wajasu also bug 13143?
06:16 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13143 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Needs Signoff , Add a tool to show a Koha's password
06:16 ashimema I agree, 12338 looks like it should be signed off...
06:17 ashimema mostly looks like code tidy to me :)
06:25 dcook I really need to head off...
06:26 dcook @later tell tcohen If you're interested in DBIC, you should take a look at this:[…]x::Class_Problems
06:26 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded.
06:26 ashimema think tcohen may have enough on his mind today dcook ;)
06:27 ashimema begin release day and all
06:27 dcook Ah, touche
06:27 dcook I should've left that for next week
06:27 dcook Oh well :)
06:27 ashimema hehe.. indeed
06:27 ashimema ;)
06:27 dcook all right got to head
06:27 dcook Going to scope out a day care centre :)
06:27 dcook ta
06:28 ashimema have a nice evening mate
06:28 wajasu dcook: when i was playing DBIx last year, i used Test-DBIx-Class-Schema-1.0.2 for adding testing.
06:29 wajasu in my environment.  so if we have the class in git now... it might be useful
06:29 wajasu time for zzzzzz.
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06:52 drojf good morning #koha
06:59 cait hi drojf :)
06:59 cait release day!
06:59 drojf hi cait :)
07:14 * magnuse waves
07:15 magnuse @arewethereyet
07:15 huginn magnuse: YES!
07:15 cait heh
07:15 cait @wunder Konstanz
07:15 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 4.0°C (8:00 AM CET on November 28, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Rising).
07:15 magnuse @wunder boo
07:15 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0°C (7:50 AM CET on November 28, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
07:15 magnuse hah!
07:17 drojf hi magnuse
07:18 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
07:18 magnuse kia ora drojf
07:18 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berolinastr., Berlin-Mitte, Berlin, Germany is 0.6°C (8:15 AM CET on November 28, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
07:18 magnuse hah!!
07:18 drojf i win! :D
07:18 magnuse no way, i win!
07:18 magnuse well, we are all winners ;-)
07:18 drojf yay \o/
07:20 cait lol
07:20 cait i guesss bag would be winner here
07:23 magnuse @wunder bag
07:23 huginn magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
07:23 drojf :D
07:23 magnuse if we could find him
07:24 magnuse we can haz cats in the catalogue?
07:25 drojf what else is a cat-alogue for?
07:28 magnuse that is, indeed, the question
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07:34 cait has someone tried it out yet?
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07:41 reiveune hello
07:41 wahanui niihau, reiveune
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07:57 alex_a bonjour
07:57 wahanui hello, alex_a
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08:12 magnuse bonjour france!
08:21 * magnuse can't see the cats
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08:37 cait hi #koha
08:38 Joubu o/
08:38 ngourlay hi #koha
08:38 cait hi Joubu
08:39 ngourlay I've submitted a patch to koha-patches, but it looks from the archives to be low volume.
08:40 ngourlay do people generally submit through bugzilla?
08:41 nlegrand hey #koha o/
08:41 magnuse hiya nlegrand
08:42 nlegrand o/
08:42 magnuse ngourlay: yes, bugzilla is the preferred method
08:42 ngourlay ok
08:42 magnuse ngourlay: here is how most of us are doing it at the moment:[…]_bz_configuration
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08:43 cait hi gaetan_B
08:43 gaetan_B hello
08:47 cait hm it looks a little broken
08:59 drojf :D
09:20 magnuse when we add subs to @EXPORT, som have a leading & and some don't - any reason for that?
09:28 ngourlay thx magnuse - I'll use giz_bz in future
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10:51 kivilahtio Bug 4283
10:51 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4283 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jwagner, ASSIGNED , Merge bibliographic records
10:52 kivilahtio I can see some quite pretty screenshots, but is there code for this anywhere?
10:59 cait kivilahtio: hm?
10:59 cait merging records has been a feature for a while :)
10:59 cait ah ok
11:00 cait looking at the screenshots
11:00 cait not sure we have that
11:03 cait kivilahtio: ok, sorry for being confusing. We can merge records, but it has nothing to do with this bug. It looks like it never got submitted, it might be in the Liblime version of Koha.
11:09 kivilahtio cait: thansk
11:10 kivilahtio cait: all the functionality already exists in Koha, just needs a bit of refactoring love :)
11:10 kivilahtio cait: We got couple of hundred duplicates from the acquisitions module, so looking for a nice way of fixing that issue.
11:10 kivilahtio cait: I guess this feature is better than just a script
11:13 cait kivilahtio: what you can do now is merge via a list - you put both records on a list - then you can start the merging from there
11:13 cait you get a view with both records and can combine them or just let 'one' survive
11:13 cait it's nice, but probably not for a problem with a bit amount of records
11:13 cait unless you write something to use the code and do it automatically
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11:35 Joubu kivilahtio: bug 8064
11:35 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8064 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Patch doesn't apply , Merge several biblio records
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12:34 tcohen_ morning
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12:59 schnydszch hi all what does this mean when i run Use of uninitialized value $branchcode in exists at /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/ line 110. using 3.16.4. TIA
13:05 kivilahtio Joubu: thanks for the tip!
13:07 tcohen hi Joubu
13:08 tcohen thanks dcook
13:08 magnuse ¡hola tcohen!
13:08 tcohen hi magnuse
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13:13 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13353 - changelog update specifically for the 3.18 release <[…]ea27a09cda6cea04a>
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15:36 bag morning
15:40 cait morning bag
15:40 cait @wunder Konstanz
15:40 huginn cait: The current temperature in Bodensee, Lake Constance Germany, Daisendorf, Germany is 3.7°C (4:40 PM CET on November 28, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
15:40 bag hi cait
15:40 bag @wunder 93111
15:40 huginn bag: The current temperature in Eastern Goleta Valley, Santa Barbara, California is 11.7°C (7:40 AM PST on November 28, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
15:41 nlegrand @wunder Paris
15:41 huginn nlegrand: Error: No such location could be found.
15:41 nlegrand :(
15:42 bag hmm today is release day correct?
15:42 przemas_ hi cait
15:45 cait bag correct
15:45 cait hi przemas_
15:46 przemas_ cait - you were right about to install the english version koha - it seems that polish version is incomplete while setting Sql database
15:47 cait ah not good
15:47 przemas_ I installed the english version and add polish language
15:48 cait it's been a whie i think since we had an active maintainer for it
15:48 cait for the polish installation files
15:48 przemas_ and cataloging apper now in polish version
15:48 cait that's good at least
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15:50 przemas_ some settings must be set manually for example: currency, z38.50 servers
15:59 przemas_ Polish users do not have a well-functioning Koha forum. :(
15:59 przemas_ One that I found is almost dead.
16:01 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
16:01 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 32.3°C (1:00 PM ART on November 28, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 30%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011 hPa (Falling).
16:03 przemas_ @wunder Warsaw, poland
16:03 huginn przemas_: The current temperature in Meteo W-wa Okecie, Warszawa, Poland is -1.5°C (5:00 PM CET on November 28, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady).
16:04 tcohen wooo hoooo
16:15 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Increment version for 3.18.0 release <[…]cdef5f76de1bdbfb1> / Translation updates for Koha 3.18.0 release <[…]cb63770797f0066bf> / Release notes for 3.18.0 <[…]7d93ce61d77c403ec
16:16 reiveune bye
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16:31 cait przemas_: you can always come here :)
16:33 przemas_ thanx :) cait - bye for now :)
16:37 cait tcohrn++
16:39 cait h
16:39 cait m
16:39 cait tochen++
16:39 cait hm
16:40 cait tcohen++
16:40 cait apparently it's time for the weekend :)
16:40 cait tochen--
16:40 cait tcohrn--
16:40 cait balancing...
16:41 cait @karma
16:41 huginn cait: Highest karma: "cait" (177), "gmcharlt" (152), and "tcohen" (124).  Lowest karma: "^" (-9), "-" (-9), and "ie" (-9).  You (cait) are ranked 1 out of 324.
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17:05 bag tcohen++
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17:29 gaetan_B bye
17:38 tcohen hi
17:38 wahanui kia ora, tcohen
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18:32 gmcharlt tcohen++
18:33 * tcohen jumps of joy
18:33 Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.18.0 is released! Welcome to the IRC home of Koha | Please read the new code of conduct -[…]/code-of-conduct/ | The next Koha General IRC meeting is 17 Dec. at 9UTC and 21UTC | Please use for pastes | Recommended installation instructions for Koha are
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18:38 bgkriegel tcohen++
18:40 tcohen koha++
18:40 tcohen opensource++
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19:09 jcamins construction--
19:09 jcamins tcohen++
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19:12 jcamins renovations--
19:12 jcamins home_ownership--
19:12 tcohen =D
19:12 tcohen bye #koha
19:13 tcohen it's fernet o'clock it seems
19:13 tcohen cait++
19:13 tcohen Joubu++
19:13 tcohen bgkriegel++
19:13 tcohen jcamins++
19:13 tcohen bye!
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19:17 cait now... did i miss the party?
19:18 jcamins Yes. We all roundly cursed construction projects, then started drinking fernet.
19:18 cait with coca or with pepsi?
19:19 jcamins I'm not sure.
19:19 jcamins I don't have any fernet. :(
19:19 cait ooh
19:20 cait tcohen++
20:05 RowdyChildren is the debian package for 3.18 up yet?
20:09 cait not sure
20:09 cait i think maybe not - it's weekend in nz
20:11 RowdyChildren cait: thanks
20:12 * cait is very exctied about 3.18 :)
20:15 * RowdyChildren is happy they fixed the issue with Chrome
20:15 cait which was taht?
20:24 RowdyChildren cait: The chrome print dialog
20:25 cait ah
20:25 cait don't remember htat one - too many :)
20:25 RowdyChildren it was anoying, plus my reciept printer wouldn't stop printing
20:26 cait ah, sounds not good
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22:28 magnuse tcohen++ koha++ community++
22:28 magnuse ...and tomorrow we start working on 3.19!
22:29 magnuse have fun, #koha!
22:29 magnuse @later tell bag HI!
22:29 huginn magnuse: The operation succeeded.
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