IRC log for #koha, 2014-11-16

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08:37 drojf good morning #koha
09:06 cait good morning drojf
09:09 drojf hi cait :)
09:10 cait are you studying?
09:10 drojf not yet
09:10 drojf getting ready to wake up :D
09:12 cait tsk :)
09:12 drojf not even the sun is awake. why do i have to get up? :D
09:13 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
09:13 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Spreefeld, Berlin, Germany is 7.3°C (10:13 AM CET on November 16, 2014). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady).
09:13 cait not sure the sun will get out of bed today
09:13 cait @wunder Konstanz
09:13 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 8.0°C (10:00 AM CET on November 16, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.70 in 1006 hPa (Rising).
09:13 drojf i "win"
09:15 cait :P
09:15 cait if you are not studying, I have some bugs that need sign-off...
09:17 drojf heh. nice try :P the bug businss will have to wait until it's over
09:20 cait hmpf
09:20 cait :)
09:20 cait if you change your mind...
09:20 cait you know where you can find me ;)
09:21 drojf :)
09:21 cait updating the german web installer files is on my list too... meh.
09:38 cait @later tell khall can you take a lok if 11305 can be closed?
09:38 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
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10:05 * magnuse waves
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11:12 * cait waves at magnuse
11:44 * magnuse waves back
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14:43 tcohen morning
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15:39 * cait waves to whoeever is around
15:54 tcohen hi cait
15:55 * cait waits for the muffins to cool down :)
15:55 tcohen YAY!
15:55 tcohen i'm leaving for  a family lunch
15:58 tcohen bye caut
15:58 tcohen cait
16:02 cait bye tcohen :)
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18:59 rangi morning
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19:04 cait morning rangi
19:08 rangi[…]ritical_circ_bugs  <-- theres 4 bugs there the no patch and needs sign off ones that need work
19:09 * cait will qa everything thrown at her
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19:17 rangi can anyone get to ?
19:18 cait trying
19:18 cait hm onpe
19:18 cait nope
19:23 ibeardslee rangi: http://www.downforeveryoneorju[…]
19:28 cait mveron++ # translating!
19:37 rangi and its back up now it seems
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19:42 mveron Hi #koha
19:43 cait hi mveron - you just missed your karma :)
19:43 cait thx for translating!
19:44 mveron Welcome...
19:44 wahanui Welcome to
19:46 mveron cait: Do we already have string freeze? Because of Bug 13261
19:46 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13261 minor, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Better check in message for patrons with indefinite restriction
19:47 cait mveron: nope, 20th :)
19:48 mveron First patch is signed-off, second patch changes the wording following Owen's recommendation
19:49 mveron cait: How was dinner yesterday? Wit your new oven...
19:50 cait aah, changed plans - cold dinner yesterday, but punkin-walnut-orange muffins today
19:50 cait i think i qa'd the first one already
19:50 mveron lecker...
19:50 cait waiting for the second to hit the qa queue :)
19:50 cait mveron: it was a made up recipe, but i am not too unhappy with the outcome :)
19:52 mveron Great. Did I ever recommend Pizoccheri?
19:52 mveron We did Pizocchery yesterday..
19:53 cait looks interesting :)
19:53 * mveron has to repair VM after each update of Windows 8.1
19:53 cait bad windows 8 - no cookie for you
19:53 mveron :-)
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20:12 burdsjm Hi all :)
20:12 burdsjm Nothing like working on a Sunday
20:12 wizzyrea hallo
20:13 rangi luckily its already monday
20:13 burdsjm Europe?
20:13 wahanui it has been said that Europe is tired, next shift should take over
20:13 rangi nope, otherside of the world
20:15 burdsjm Nice I lived in Japan for a year. Loved the weather.
20:16 burdsjm We just got 3 inches of snow today
20:16 burdsjm I need to move south
20:17 cait europe still has sunday for a bit )
20:47 rangi ibeardslee:
21:00 ibeardslee that could be (a) slightly unfair and (b) liable to get someone kicked
21:00 rangi :)
21:01 ibeardslee Andrew C knows how hard it is for me to spar hands only .. the knees and legs just want to happen
21:03 wizzyrea I'm deeply conflicted about such a thing.
21:05 wizzyrea Zing!
21:07 ibeardslee It's all very good for some.  But I've been in the ring twice before and trained someone to get into the ring .. it's not something I'm a great fan of anymore.  People deliberately going in with an attitude to hurt someone else.
21:08 ibeardslee and on a more positive note .. https://edwinbruce.wordpress.c[…]en-source-awards/
21:08 cait ah, congratulations ibeardslee :)
21:09 rangi oh that is a nice write up
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21:09 cait hi tcohen
21:09 rangi hi tcohen
21:11 wizzyrea on the one hand, I'm sure it can be fun. On the other, I think there's enough anger and misanthropy in IT as it is.
21:11 wizzyrea not sure we need more of that.
21:12 ibeardslee cait: Thanks .. and the wonderful people in here can help take some credit for it as well.
21:13 wizzyrea we just do as we're told ;0
21:13 wizzyrea ;)
21:14 ibeardslee yes, but in a nice and helpful way
21:14 tcohen hi
21:15 rangi speaking of which, i should catch up with you about next years academy at some point
21:16 ibeardslee yeap .. currently playing with getting jitsi meet to screen share to get a step closer to being able to do the academy with remote branches.  I'll be wandering and nagging^w discussing with people tomorrow
21:17 rangi sweet
21:17 ibeardslee hopefully the discussion doesn't involve anyone getting tickets to LCA ;)
21:18 rangi im not planning on going, unless there is a way for me to just go up for the one day community leader summit
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21:26 eythian hi
21:28 eythian curious, huginn owes me a message
21:29 eythian oh, tcohen did it wrong :)
21:29 tcohen ah?
21:29 wahanui i guess ah is that what goes after the last
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21:59 dcook Hmm, I have a timestamp but now to figure out the day...
21:59 dcook @seen ribasushi
21:59 huginn dcook: ribasushi was last seen in #koha 2 days, 13 hours, 59 minutes, and 56 seconds ago: <ribasushi> dcook: can you tell me where in the docs does it say that chaining will work the way you expected? can't seem to find it...
21:59 dcook Hmm, should've sent a line number..
22:00 dcook Hmm
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22:09 mveron @wunder Allschwil
22:09 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Wetter Allschwil, Allschwil, Switzerland is 10.0°C (11:09 PM CET on November 16, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Steady).
22:09 pastebot "dcook" at pasted "DBIC docs for updating rows" (25 lines) at
22:09 dcook ribasushi: ^
22:15 * mveron says good night / daytime to everybody
22:15 mveron quit
22:15 mveron :-)
22:31 tcohen hi dcook
22:31 dcook yo tcohen
22:31 tcohen eythian: did u notice I updated the control file?
22:31 tcohen dcook: did u buy the stroller?
22:31 dcook Nopes, not yet.
22:32 dcook Still a ways off from needing it, so I figure we can look for a while
22:32 tcohen heh
22:32 tcohen of course :-D
22:32 dcook Really want to try some out though
22:32 tcohen good idea!
22:33 eythian tcohen: I haven't noticed yet, bit I'm sure I would have :)
22:33 tcohen eythian: =D
22:33 tcohen have you tried any aegentinian beer?
22:34 eythian tcohen: you can't put any characters after a name in @later or it thinks it's part of the name, and I won't get anything to "eythian,"
22:34 eythian I don't think I have
22:34 tcohen eythian: maybe a typo?
22:34 dcook Interesting... XSLT_hander.t passes despite spitting out lots of errors..
22:35 eythian I think if your test case causes warnings, something needs to be fixed.
22:35 dcook I'm thinking so too
22:35 dcook I just tried "prove XSLT_handler.t" in master
22:36 dcook Oh wait...
22:36 dcook I might be lying
22:36 dcook I have modified so maybe I did it :p
22:36 dcook Don't think so though..
22:36 rangi hmm earthquake
22:36 wahanui it has been said that earthquake is on the news
22:36 tcohen dcook: it tests for failure
22:37 tcohen should also encapsulate the warnings and test for them
22:37 dcook tcohen: Yeah, I figure that's why it's passing the tests, but it seems weird to ahve warnings
22:37 dcook Mmm, except has print_warnings on by default
22:37 * tcohen has been cleaning warnings from tests every spare minute he has had
22:38 dcook[…].cgi?id=11826#c23
22:38 dcook :/
22:38 huginn Bug 11826: enhancement, P5 - low, ---,, Pushed to Master , Improving code for XSLT handling
22:39 dcook Oh well
22:40 dcook I think it should be easy enough to add parameters to the XSLT handler
22:40 dcook Maybe not so easy to add functions..
22:49 dcook Oh, dcook has ideas...
22:49 tcohen dcook: we want the code, can trade cookies if you wish
22:49 dcook hehe
22:49 dcook I'm really enjoying these rosemary crackers and hummous at the moment :D
22:49 dcook I'm just debating how to add functions
22:50 dcook Because the current way of caching the XSLTs doesn't really let you cache the registration of functions as well
22:50 dcook So it might make sense to just register functions on a transform by transform basis I guess
22:50 dcook And to just see if the XML_LIBXSLT_FUNCTIONS property has been set before registering them
22:50 dcook To avoid repetition
22:50 dcook That probably wasn't clear at all...
22:51 * tcohen would love to have an XSLT registry, on the DB
22:51 dcook That could also be neat :)
22:51 dcook For the OAI importer, I want to pass in the OAI identifier as a parameter, and I do that by using XML::LibXSLT parameters
22:52 dcook Locally, I also use a "register_function" to pass some Perl subs to the XSLT, which is quite handy
22:53 dcook Although I guess the functions for local things as well...
22:54 dcook Actually, I'm curious about registering a function for looking up system preferences
22:54 dcook Instead of passing in the the system preference to the XSLT as XML
22:56 dcook Oh... I'm an idiot...
22:56 dcook Oh, maybe not..
22:56 dcook register_function is a global option
22:58 dcook So it's actually not even necessary to add it to
22:58 dcook Although we could if we wanted to add certain functions for every transform
22:58 dcook (like a systempreference lookup function)
22:59 * dcook loves open source
23:10 dcook Ah, super.
23:18 cait heh :)
23:18 cait goo dnight dcook :)
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23:19 dcook @later tell cait sweet dreams :)
23:19 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded.
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23:49 wizzyrea I hate that overdue notice/status triggers are under tools.
23:49 wizzyrea just putting that out there.
23:49 wizzyrea totally feels like an admin thing to me.
23:49 wizzyrea same with notice configuration.
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23:59 wizzyrea I'd do a patch to fix that but there might be mutiny.
23:59 dcook Mutiny?
23:59 dcook I'm with you about the tools/admin thing. Drives me nuts.
23:59 dcook Well, I stopped caring a while ago. But it theoretically drives me nuts :p

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