IRC log for #koha, 2014-08-16

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00:01 eythian I have been
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07:51 * cait waves
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11:55 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
11:55 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 8.7°C (8:55 AM ART on August 16, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
11:55 tcohen brrrrrr
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12:17 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
12:17 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
12:17 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.14.x_D7 build #40: FIXED in 31 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]oha_3.14.x_D7/40/
12:18 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12287: At the moment, found is 'W', 'T' or NULL <[…]e36f1f4edf3d9e9ab> / Bug 12287 - Hold priority for new hold incorrect if record has holds in transit <[…]46499f62b15ef06e1>
12:22 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
12:22 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
12:22 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x_U12 build #10: FIXED in 29 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_3.12.x_U12/10/
12:42 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
12:42 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
12:42 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x_D7 build #9: FIXED in 24 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_3.12.x_D7/9/
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13:28 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #124: UNSTABLE in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_Master_D7/124/
13:28 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 12287 - Hold priority for new hold incorrect if record has holds in transit
13:28 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12287: At the moment, found is 'W', 'T' or NULL
13:28 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12287 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Hold priority for new hold incorrect if record has holds in transit
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14:14 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
14:14 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
14:14 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #125: FIXED in 45 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_Master_D7/125/
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17:37 ghw I've got a question about the branch transfers table
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17:50 SkramX hi all
17:51 SkramX anyone around to field some very general questions about koha?
17:58 ghw I was just asking a question myself a few minutes ago but I seem to be the only one here
17:58 ghw Fortunately I seem to have found my own answer
17:59 ghw What's your question and maybe I can help
18:01 SkramX hi ghw thanks
18:02 SkramX I'm a IT/programmer guy helping a nonprofit and they're looking for an ILS with a twist - they want to be able to charge like a monthly fee and let people get items mailed to them (think Netflix without the online streaming)
18:02 SkramX I doubt Koha has that built in - does it have mailing/request built in and as a developer where could I learn more about extensing the software?
18:04 ghw As far as library software goes, Koha can handle requests - i.e. the patrons - or customers - whatever you want to call them - can use the software to place requests on items that are in the database
18:04 ghw The mailing part would be a human process of finding the items and filling the requests
18:04 ghw and then mailing them to the customers
18:05 ghw It is also possible to create a patron category that requires a fee payment
18:05 wahanui okay, ghw.
18:05 SkramX a fee payment per item or per period of time, ghw ?
18:05 ghw But Koha doesn't have any built into it to collect the fee from the customer
18:05 SkramX thats okay
18:05 SkramX I see fees for item types
18:06 ghw I'm an end user - I work at a library in Idaho - and we don't have any customers in our system that have to pay a fee
18:06 SkramX understood
18:07 ghw But when you create "customer" types, it is possible to set up categories that are designated as "Fee Required" and then attach a fee amount to those categories
18:08 ghw Then you can set the customer type so that it expires every month
18:08 ghw Are you looking at a Koha demo site now?
18:08 SkramX i am
18:09 ghw If you go to Administration
18:09 SkramX i just created a type that has an enrollment for a month and requires a 10 enrollment fee
18:09 ghw and then to  - yep - you got it figured out before I could even finish typing
18:10 SkramX sorry :)
18:10 ghw it's cool
18:10 SkramX ok i created a patron and see they owe $10.i renewed them and it set the renew date to be the same date but added $10 charge unfortunately
18:11 ghw I think if you play around with it you can probably figure out a way to get it to do what you want.
18:11 SkramX yeah
18:11 SkramX is this all in perl?
18:12 ghw You could probably even figure out two seperate billing models - create one patron category for monthly billing and a seperate category on a 12 month billing cycle
18:12 ghw One of the programming people would be better at answering that.
18:12 ghw I believe it is, but I'm not 100% sure.
18:12 SkramX np
18:12 SkramX thanks for your help
18:12 ghw np
18:13 ghw good luck
18:14 SkramX is there any onkine way for people to check items out?
18:15 SkramX or do a hold online?
18:15 ghw which demo are you using?  ByWater, Biblibre, etc?
18:15 SkramX biblibre
18:15 wahanui hmmm... biblibre is everywhere ;)
18:16 SkramX i dont see any way to login as patron
18:16 ghw I think that biblibre's demo has sample data in it, so you should be able to.
18:17 ghw what you want to do is to find some patron data in the staff client
18:17 ghw then switch over to the demo marked as OPAC
18:17 ghw If you're not a librarian, OPAC is lingo for Online Patron Access Catalog
18:17 SkramX kk
18:18 ghw so the biblibre OPAC should be connected to the same staff client you're looking at
18:18 SkramX ok great - thanks
18:18 ghw np
18:21 SkramX sorry.. but i made a hold as a user but its not in the hold queue
18:22 SkramX shows under the patron in staff login but not hold queue
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18:23 ghw The hold queue is re-built every xx minutes based on a chronjob
18:23 SkramX oh - it's in holds to pull. duh.
18:23 ghw It won't appear in the hold queue report until after the cronjob runs
18:23 ghw the holds to pull report is based on a different process
18:24 SkramX so after a user requests a hold it first goes to hold queue and then holds to pull?
18:24 ghw It is a little confusing but it has to do with titles that have multiple items
18:25 ghw If you have multiple items attached to one title and you place a hold on the "next available" copy the hold request immediately goes into the "reserves" table in the database and the next copy of that title to get checked in will trigger the hold
18:26 ghw whenever the cronjob runs, though, Koha selects 1 copy and places that one copy in the "holds queue" for the library that owns the 1 item
18:26 SkramX gotcha
18:26 SkramX thx
18:26 SkramX you rock
18:26 ghw thanks
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18:35 cait ghw++
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21:03 cait @wunder Konstanz
21:03 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 13.0°C (11:00 PM CEST on August 16, 2014). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.20 in 1023 hPa (Rising).
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