IRC log for #koha, 2014-05-04

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04:22 kathryn_ hi peoples
04:23 kathryn_ just wondering if someone has the link to that flowchart of the dev process bywater put out a while ago:)
04:51 irma hi kathryn ... might this be it? ...[…]raining-handouts/ "Koha Development Process Diagram"
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06:03 cait good morning #koha
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06:05 pablito hi all
06:06 pablito anyone here?
06:17 cait hi pablito
06:17 cait :)
06:17 pablito hi cait!
06:18 pablito it's good to 'see' you :-)
06:18 cait :)
06:18 pablito how are you?
06:20 pablito my koha 3.14.06 server is freezing up on me
06:21 cait oh no
06:21 * jcamins waves vaguely.
06:21 cait i am good, working on some project this weekend
06:21 pablito it's the second time in the past month
06:21 cait hi jcamins
06:22 pablito the sysadmin tells me a koha script is causing an 'out of memory' error
06:23 cait not sure i can help, but do you have more information?
06:23 cait is it the server or the client giving you problems?
06:23 pablito the server
06:23 wahanui the server is behind a Firewall and Reverse Proxy
06:23 pablito i can hardly ssh into the server
06:24 cait but he didnÄt tell you which script?
06:24 pablito but then after 15 minutes i managed to login and ran 'top' to see what's eating up the resource
06:24 pablito no
06:25 pablito top tells me the user 'stslib-k' is using up all the CPU
06:25 pablito though the memory usage is very low
06:25 cait hm that doesn't look like a koha process
06:25 pablito that's my koha instance
06:25 pablito 'stslib'
06:27 cait oh
06:27 cait jcamins: ?
06:28 pablito i searched the koha bugs website and found one that's might be this issue
06:29 pablito[…]g.cgi?id=10338#c1
06:29 huginn Bug 10338: normal, P3, ---, oleonard, NEW , Search history can cause "Out of memory" errors
06:29 cait the only thing i can think of at the top of my mind is problems with cookies in the client... and that doesn't fit your description so much
06:29 cait hm
06:29 cait maybe worth a try?
06:30 jcamins If it's on the server, that's probably not it.
06:30 pablito ah ok
06:30 jcamins But you can try.
06:30 jcamins I can't troubleshoot either way, though, sorry.
06:30 cait hm shouldn't he already have the fix?
06:31 cait looks like it got fixed in 3.12.3
06:31 pablito ah ok
06:31 pablito so it seems this is something else
06:31 cait could it be a search robot bringing your server down?
06:31 pablito that's what I am thinking
06:32 pablito the past few weeks
06:32 pablito I have been noticing a lot 'failed' attempts to login via ssh
06:33 pablito i installed fail2ban and adjusted my iptable configuration
06:33 pablito can you tell me more about a 'search robot'?
06:34 cait a robots.txt might fix it
06:34 cait i think there is a bug/example file for that
06:34 cait just something like google triyng to index yours server, making lots of requests in a very short time
06:36 pablito oh
06:36 pablito i just check top again it there are alot of processes running ''
06:37 pablito so that must be the script that the sysadmin was referring to
06:37 jcamins There's a robots.txt file somewhere in the Koha distribution.
06:37 pablito i remember seeing it too, but can you give me a like to an example online?
06:38 pablito i mean a 'link'
06:42 jcamins It's called robots.txt, so a find . -name robots.txt should do it.
06:43 pablito ok
06:54 kathryn_ thank you irma , yes!
06:54 kathryn_ good night all :)
06:59 pablito thank you cait and jcamins for the advice!  I am no longer DDOS by these web crawlers
07:00 pablito :-)
07:03 irma hi cait:)
07:03 irma hi pablito and jcamins
07:03 pablito hi irma :-)
07:04 cait hi irma :)
07:06 * jcamins waves, sleepily.
07:06 irma I am emailing Unesco re the wrong Koha link ... cait might you have noticed that the link to the list of support companies by continent or country is broken?
07:06 irma
07:07 irma [connections_list category=4 order_by='random']
07:07 irma should I contact wizzyrea?
07:08 cait irma: i thik so - I think she is the only one who can fix it currently
07:09 cait maybe it's just one of the new entries having a syntax error or something similar
07:09 irma thanks cait ... shall email now ;-)
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07:16 irma cait Wir sind ein bisschen verwöhnt in Sydney und jammern, wenn die Temperatur unter 20c ist ... Stell dir vor, es ist kalt im Büro <> ich muss die Heizung einschalten :-(
07:17 cait :)
07:17 cait @wunder Konstanz
07:17 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 8.0°C (9:00 AM CEST on May 04, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Rising).
07:17 BobB @wunder Sydney, Australia
07:17 huginn BobB: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 15.0°C (5:00 PM EST on May 04, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Rising).
07:17 cait ein kleiner Trost... hier ist es noch kälter heute morgen
07:17 BobB :)
07:18 irma :)
07:18 irma Ich wünsche Ihnen einen schönen Tag! Bis bald!
07:19 BobB I've turned on the heater in the office - first time this year
07:19 cait Bis bald!
07:19 cait and hi BobB :)
07:19 BobB hi cait
07:20 BobB I don't usually work on Sunday afternoon, just clearing up today
07:21 cait :)
07:22 pablito i have another question
07:23 pablito when i clean up a reservoir, does it cause zebra to reindex?
07:24 pablito I ask because after cleaning up two reservoirs, I cannot search for anything in my catalog
07:25 pablito the result for a common book is empty
07:26 cait hm what do you mean by cleaning a reservoir?
07:26 cait did you clean a batch or undo it?
07:46 pablito i cleaned a batch
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08:05 cait pablito: that shoud have no consequences on your searching
08:05 cait it doesn't remove the records from the catalogs
08:05 pablito hmm
08:05 cait it just removes the information about the batch, matches eetc.
08:05 pablito maybe it's a different issue
08:06 pablito so I ran  ''koha-disable instance''
08:06 cait mveron++ # translating!
08:06 pablito created the robots.txt file
08:07 pablito then ran "koha-enable instance''
08:07 cait die you reenable the instance?
08:07 pablito yes
08:07 cait can you check the zebreasrv is running?
08:07 cait i am not sure if this needs a separate command
08:07 cait just starting using packages myself
08:07 pablito zebrasrv is running
08:08 pablito it seems to be not processing anything (0% cpu, .4% mem)
08:09 pablito should i force a reindex?
08:10 cait hm you could try
09:29 cait hmmmm
09:30 cait the option to receive multiple issues at once... where has that gone??
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11:20 cait bootstrap?
11:20 wahanui bootstrap is running in a demo at It tracks, reasonably closely, the current master version of Koha.
11:20 cait wahanui: forget bootstrap
11:20 wahanui cait: I forgot bootstrap
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11:59 pablito hi all
12:01 pablito I get the error "500 Internal Server Error" in OPAC when clicking on a link of an author whose name has accents
12:01 pablito I have koha 3.14.06 on Debian
12:02 pablito however, a similar setup with Ubuntu, I don't get this error
12:02 pablito any ideas?
12:02 wahanui any ideas are welcome :)
12:03 cait what's the link it's searching for?
12:06 pablito here's an example
12:07 pablito http://libraryjerusalem.unisal[…]
12:07 pablito on the left of the page under Authors, click on Del Col, José Maria
12:09 cait nice layout :)
12:09 pablito thank you
12:09 pablito :-)
12:10 cait h
12:10 cait m
12:10 cait interesting
12:10 wahanui interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
12:10 cait that's not even a koha error
12:10 cait The request was rejected by the HTTP filter
12:10 pablito yes
12:10 pablito so is it an apache problem?
12:10 cait i had expected it woul display the error 500 koha page
12:11 cait i am not sure really, but i think i would also look for solutions outside koha
12:11 cait are oyu using icu indexing?
12:11 pablito i don't think so
12:11 cait ok
12:12 pablito how would I know if ICU indexing is there?
12:13 cait hm i thinki the about page might tell you nowadways
12:14 pablito ah, yes
12:14 pablito Zebra version:Zebra 2.0.44 (C) 1994-2010, Index Data ApS Zebra is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. SHA1 ID: 419ad759807269fdfa379799a051ed3a551c6541 Using ICU
12:14 cait hm you might then
12:15 cait there is a system preference
12:15 cait useicu
12:15 cait you can make sure that it's set to use then
12:15 cait but I think it won't be enough to fix the problem
12:16 pablito i enabled the settings, but same error
12:19 cait hm thought so
12:19 cait i think it would like it better maybe if the link was url encoded
12:20 pablito how would I do that?
12:22 cait hm not sure you can
12:22 cait sorry,not sure i can help there
12:22 cait maybe ask agan later tonight or tomorrow? weekends are always very quiet here
12:23 pablito ok, thanks
12:24 cait googling the error might also give you hints
12:27 cait hm most results i get refer to some microsoft product
12:27 cait[…]opean-char-in-the
12:28 cait pablito: ?
12:28 pablito yes
12:29 cait see the link above
12:29 cait not sure if that could be a reason for your problem
12:29 jcamins Does that search work when you're accessing the server directly?
12:29 pablito hmm
12:29 pablito let me try
12:32 pablito I ssh into the server and use the text-based browser and it worked
12:32 pablito so yes
12:33 jcamins It could be your proxy doing something weird.
12:34 pablito so it seems the problem lies somewhere between the server and the client
12:36 pablito i'll have to contact the network admin then
12:40 pablito btw, what is ICU indexing?
12:44 jcamins It's an option for Zebra.
12:44 jcamins It provides better unicode support.
12:47 pablito i c
12:47 pablito I have another issue that's been bugging me for sometime
12:48 pablito here's an example if it: http://libraryjerusalem.unisal[…]r=364939#holdings
12:48 pablito when you look at the bottom of the bookshelf brose
12:48 pablito you'll notice that the call numbers are not sorted correctly
12:50 pablito it goes from II A 89, II A 90 to II A 9/1, then back to II A 91
12:50 pablito it's an archaic call number system, but i'll have to live with it since there are over 36,000 books with these kinds of number already
12:51 pablito is there a way to configure the sorting to work correctly for these call numbers?
12:51 jcamins If you want to fix that you'll have to write your own call number sorting code, I think.
12:53 pablito where would be a good place to start?
12:53 jcamins Ummm... I'm not really sure, sorry.
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12:58 pablito anyway, thank you both, cait and jcamins, for your help today.  Have great Sunday! :-)
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13:47 cait logs
13:47 cait logs?
13:47 wahanui i heard logs was
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14:39 cait @wunder Konstanz
14:39 huginn cait: The current temperature in Bodensee, Lake Constance Germany, Daisendorf, Germany is 12.0°C (4:39 PM CEST on May 04, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
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18:52 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11763: (follow-up) do not display anything in actions column if user cannot manag... <[…]bab7076dd0fd51654> / Bug 12019: ensure that it is optional to define an owner if a fund is restricted <[…]795f1342290231e13> / Bug 12019: FIX budget_owner_id node is
19:01 jenkins_koha Starting build #1729 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
19:22 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11665: (follow-up) simplify code <[…]c394a2464ca986786> / Bug 11665: An ability to place orders directly from hold ratios list <[…]1ae8220c57ef199cb>
19:30 cait gmcharlt++ :)
19:32 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10613: (follow-up) fix QA issues <[…]0366d9edd1f592dd7> / Bug 10613: (follow-up) fix typo supplierid vs booksellerid <[…]1a8de5ffe495cff5c> / Bug 10613: calculate the GST rate correctly on the invoice page. <
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20:30 cait @wunder Konstanz
20:30 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 5.7°C (10:30 PM CEST on May 04, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
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21:08 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1729: UNSTABLE in 2 hr 9 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1729/
21:08 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12019: FIX budget_owner_id node is duplicated
21:08 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12019: ensure that it is optional to define an owner if a fund is restricted
21:08 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11763: (follow-up) do not display anything in actions column if user cannot manage a budget
21:08 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12019 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , funds displayed on acquisition home show funds of all branches
21:08 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11763 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Consolidate fund action links into menu
21:12 jenkins_koha Starting build #1730 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1728 1 day 2 hr ago)
22:03 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10875: (follow-up) make displaying/hiding inactive funds work cross-browser <[…]2ee6ccb83a96b61be> / Bug 7180: (follow-up) restore ability to select bibs in middle of import batch <[…]bcd2ee34fab8c3de5> / Bug 7180: (follow-up) fix regression on bug 6074 <
22:09 eythian hi
22:09 wahanui hey, eythian
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22:31 eythian[…] <-- rangi
22:33 rangi heh interesting
22:33 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9593: (follow-up) don't make currency.isocode required <[…]d1c61e24b4e181902> / Bug 9593: update DBIC files <[…]cfabeef7705605439> / Bug 9593: DBRev <[…]15e9a46eec3c93554
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23:23 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 766: (follow-up) improve usage comments in new TT include <[…]6d51b56f0c5f92036> / Bug 766: (follow-up) point acqui/ at the new location... <[…]ae04668e2f503d117> / Bug 766: (follow-up) move copyright statement back to the top <
23:29 wizzyrea @wunder nzwn
23:29 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (11:00 AM NZST on May 05, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady).
23:30 wizzyrea gosh it's quite warm
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23:33 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
23:33 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
23:33 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1730: FIXED in 2 hr 22 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1730/
23:33 jenkins_koha * Jacek Ablewicz: Bug 11665: An ability to place orders directly from hold ratios list
23:33 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11665: (follow-up) simplify code
23:33 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10613: calculate the GST rate correctly on the invoice page.
23:33 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10613: (follow-up) fix typo supplierid vs booksellerid
23:33 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10613: (follow-up) fix QA issues
23:33 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11665 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, abl, Pushed to Master , An ability to place orders directly from hold ratios list
23:33 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10613 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Gst is not calculated correctly on the invoice page
23:33 wizzyrea it's so cute that wahanui throws confetti when the build gets fixed
23:33 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11466: (follow-up) add additional test <[…]fe47957dca15f3415> / Bug 11466: improve selection of item types for purchase order desired format list <[…]69c5f03d5ebeb44d3>
23:37 jenkins_koha Starting build #1731 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)

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