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| 00:05 |
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dcook |
I might not have signed off but at least I lowered the queue by one.. |
| 00:07 |
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| 00:28 |
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dcook |
Mmm, I forgot about the "delimiter" syspref... |
| 00:29 |
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| 01:14 |
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mtompset |
this weather is awful! ouch! |
| 01:14 |
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mtompset |
http://www.theweathernetwork.c[…]5&var1=1073994112 |
| 01:14 |
|
mtompset |
I didn't quite shovel my driveway enough, and the car got stuck for 1.5 hours. |
| 01:27 |
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wizzyrea |
oops. |
| 01:28 |
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| 01:29 |
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mtompset |
Now my back aches, arms ache,and am totally exhausted, and I'm short on hours today as a result of these delays. |
| 02:17 |
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dcook |
mtompset: You need to have children so they can do it for you |
| 02:17 |
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dcook |
You might need to put in 15 years before they can do that though.. |
| 02:18 |
|
dcook |
I want to have healthy children someday... |
| 02:18 |
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dcook |
...so that they can do the chores well :p |
| 02:20 |
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talljoy |
funny, just had this conversation with mine today. |
| 02:20 |
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talljoy |
teen "what are we free labor" |
| 02:20 |
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talljoy |
me: "um yah. that's why i had kids" |
| 02:21 |
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talljoy |
he is 14 years old. so your estimate dcook is not that far off. |
| 02:21 |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 02:21 |
|
dcook |
Yeah, I suppose 14 is when I got man sized |
| 02:22 |
|
dcook |
No snow to push in Texas I imagine though? |
| 02:22 |
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* dcook |
wonders if mowing lawns is worse than pushing snow |
| 02:23 |
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talljoy |
no snow |
| 02:23 |
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talljoy |
he was doing dishes. |
| 02:23 |
|
dcook |
Notwithstanding the East coast and the occasional storm, it doesn't really snow *that* much in Canada.. |
| 02:23 |
|
dcook |
talljoy: I think that's why my wife married me |
| 02:23 |
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* dcook |
does the dishes (usually) |
| 02:23 |
|
talljoy |
and he's not quite man sized. he's close...about 5 foot 9 or 5 foot 10 he has a few more inches to grow. |
| 02:24 |
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talljoy |
dishwashers are worth their weight in gold. mine is broken, hence the child labor |
| 02:24 |
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dcook |
Pretty good size for hard labour ;). |
| 02:24 |
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talljoy |
if i had snow, he'd be out there shoveling. for sure. |
| 02:24 |
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dcook |
Yeah, I had a dishwasher in high school. It was rather handy. |
| 02:24 |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 02:24 |
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talljoy |
right now he's a good size for getting things off the top shelf fo rme. |
| 02:25 |
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talljoy |
when i don't want to get up myself. given i'm still taller |
| 02:25 |
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jcamins |
talljoy: but... aren't you about a million feet tall? |
| 02:25 |
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talljoy |
near abouts. |
| 02:25 |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 02:25 |
|
dcook |
I was going to say |
| 02:25 |
|
dcook |
Now that I think about it, I'm the tall one, and I'm the one still reaching things on the bottom shelves.. |
| 02:26 |
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dcook |
I think I might just be the manslave |
| 02:26 |
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dcook |
Mmm, she does cook really well though.. |
| 02:26 |
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talljoy |
that's why i had two kids. one is taller and one is shorter. one for the plates, one for the placemats |
| 02:26 |
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dcook |
lol |
| 02:27 |
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talljoy |
strategic family planning |
| 02:27 |
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dcook |
Nothwithstanding a difficult pregnancy, sleepless nights, and parenting difficulties, I think I'm looking forward to having my own legion |
| 02:27 |
|
dcook |
So to speak |
| 02:27 |
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* dcook |
doesn't want *that* many children |
| 02:27 |
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dcook |
The eugenics is because we care |
| 02:27 |
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talljoy |
LOL |
| 02:30 |
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talljoy |
i'm done for the night. later y'all |
| 02:30 |
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dcook |
night talljoy |
| 02:33 |
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wizzyrea |
but you also get the sassing and the whinging! |
| 02:33 |
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wizzyrea |
...and the hugs and kisses too. |
| 02:38 |
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dcook |
Hmm, perhaps a decent trade off |
| 02:38 |
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dcook |
Actually, I'm really looking forward to seeing them stand up for something |
| 02:38 |
|
dcook |
Besides chocolate that is |
| 02:38 |
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dcook |
I mean ethically |
| 02:39 |
|
dcook |
On an unrelated note, anyone know why "koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/cataloguing/value_builder/marc21_field_008.xml" might not be updated on the koha-community/gitweb, but it is in master? |
| 02:40 |
|
dcook |
Bug 10141 doesn't appear in the history online, but it's definitely there.. |
| 02:40 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10141 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED FIXED, Enable "18-21 Illustrations" and "24-27 Nature of contents" options for marc21_field_008.pl plugin |
| 02:42 |
|
dcook |
Actually, I might have an idea.. |
| 02:42 |
|
dcook |
It's probably because I'm a silly pants |
| 02:45 |
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dcook |
Had the wrong context but now I can't find the file at all.. |
| 02:47 |
|
dcook |
Don't know if it is relevant, but I'm getting a "GET http://git.koha-community.org/[…]/static/gitweb.js 404 (Not Found) " error when I try to load the git tree |
| 02:48 |
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dcook |
Hmm, not showing up on Github either.. |
| 02:49 |
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* dcook |
thinks perhaps the file has moved.. |
| 02:50 |
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dcook |
Aha. Indeed... |
| 02:51 |
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* dcook |
apologizes for the ranting monologue. |
| 03:22 |
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| 03:41 |
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gmcharlt |
@later tell cait is the change to the German label for the circulate/override_renewals permission correct in the patch for bug 10863? |
| 03:41 |
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huginn |
gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
| 03:43 |
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mtompset |
dcook: My son is only 4. :P |
| 03:43 |
|
dcook |
Only 10 years to go then! |
| 03:44 |
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gmcharlt |
then he too, can get stuff off tall shelves for talljoy ;) |
| 03:44 |
|
dcook |
^^ |
| 03:53 |
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mtompset |
I'm not sure I'm ask a 14 year old to shovel snow. |
| 03:57 |
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mtompset |
Clever and evil way of avoiding warnings on the shift. |
| 03:57 |
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mtompset |
(GetBranchesLoop in C4/Branch.pm) |
| 03:59 |
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eythian |
I woulda just done shift || otherthing() |
| 03:59 |
|
eythian |
I don't _think_ that warns |
| 04:00 |
|
eythian |
though it's probable you'd want //, which wasn't available until recently. |
| 04:11 |
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mtompset |
If you shift and there is nothing, it warns, as far as I know, eythian. |
| 04:13 |
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* dcook |
would think that it would give you a null instead but hasn't really tried it either way in a while |
| 04:13 |
|
eythian |
$ perl -w -e 'use strict; my @a=qw(a) ; shift @a ; shift @a ;' |
| 04:13 |
|
eythian |
$ |
| 04:13 |
|
eythian |
doesn't warn |
| 04:13 |
|
eythian |
Pretty sure it gives you undef |
| 04:17 |
|
mtompset |
You forgot use warnings; |
| 04:17 |
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mtompset |
Ah, -w |
| 04:17 |
|
eythian |
-w enable many useful warnings |
| 04:17 |
|
eythian |
yeah :) |
| 04:41 |
|
mtompset |
Hmmm... the logic for the branches to display in a branch dropdown is crazy weird. |
| 04:41 |
|
* gmcharlt |
hands mtompset a shovel |
| 04:42 |
|
gmcharlt |
I'm afraid you're about to get buried under the dead weight of history ;) |
| 04:42 |
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mtompset |
It looks like it, gmcharlt. |
| 04:42 |
|
mtompset |
All I wanted to do was change it to only display if a field was set to 1 or 0 for a show_in_opac value. |
| 04:43 |
|
mtompset |
But considering how crazy used the function is... it is a mess. |
| 04:44 |
|
mtompset |
My simple patch... busts other things. :( |
| 04:46 |
|
huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10863: (follow-up) give limited circ operator way to proceed <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ea5e3294c9da88f07> / Bug 10863: (follow-up) set correct description for manage_restrictions permission... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b8f6fa690f33a9e6a> / Bug 10863: DBRev 3.15.00.012 <http://git.koha-community.org |
| 04:48 |
|
mtompset |
38 files use GetBranchesLoop?! |
| 04:51 |
|
jenkins_koha |
Starting build #297 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 04:51 |
|
mtompset |
Is there a way to know if you are using OPAC or Staff Client in any given function? |
| 04:54 |
|
jenkins_koha |
Starting build #1588 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 05:07 |
|
mtompset |
Well, have a great day (24 hour period), #koha. |
| 05:07 |
|
mtompset |
Hopefully this blizzard warning doesn't affect my driving tomorrow. :( |
| 05:12 |
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paxed |
looks like the tooltip 'Dates of birth should be entered in the format "[% format %]"' is not translatable. can anyone confirm that? |
| 05:23 |
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| 05:46 |
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* dcook |
contemplates the difference between "format_sqldatetime" and "format_date" |
| 05:46 |
|
dcook |
The former uses the Koha namespace and the latter the C4 |
| 05:46 |
|
* dcook |
thinks he should use the former? |
| 05:49 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project master_maria build #297: SUCCESS in 59 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/297/ |
| 05:49 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Jonathan Druart: Bug 10863: Add 2 circulation permissions: force_checkout and lift_restriction |
| 05:49 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Galen Charlton: Bug 10863: DBRev 3.15.00.012 |
| 05:49 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Galen Charlton: Bug 10863: (follow-up) set correct description for manage_restrictions permission during upgrade |
| 05:49 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Galen Charlton: Bug 10863: (follow-up) give limited circ operator way to proceed |
| 05:50 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10863 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Add 2 circulation permissions: force_checkout and lift_restriction |
| 05:50 |
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cait |
dcook: i'd say the one in Koha |
| 05:51 |
|
dcook |
It seems like it might be a bit more robust |
| 06:02 |
|
dcook |
Ah, the sqldatetime seems to include zeroes while format_date doesn't |
| 06:03 |
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dcook |
Hmm, I don't know if that's intentional... |
| 06:03 |
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dcook |
Whatever, I think I'm not going to do it anyway. |
| 06:03 |
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dcook |
Ah, maybe it is intentional |
| 06:07 |
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dcook |
In any case, I gotta run |
| 06:07 |
|
dcook |
Night, cait :) |
| 06:07 |
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dcook |
Err morning? |
| 06:07 |
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cait |
night :) |
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| 06:26 |
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* Oak |
waves |
| 06:26 |
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Oak |
magnuse |
| 06:26 |
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Oak |
Guten morgen cait |
| 06:30 |
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cait |
hi Oak :) |
| 06:39 |
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magnuse |
Oak |
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* magnuse |
waves |
| 07:07 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #1588: SUCCESS in 2 hr 14 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1588/ |
| 07:07 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Jonathan Druart: Bug 10863: Add 2 circulation permissions: force_checkout and lift_restriction |
| 07:07 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Galen Charlton: Bug 10863: DBRev 3.15.00.012 |
| 07:07 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Galen Charlton: Bug 10863: (follow-up) set correct description for manage_restrictions permission during upgrade |
| 07:07 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Galen Charlton: Bug 10863: (follow-up) give limited circ operator way to proceed |
| 07:07 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10863 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Add 2 circulation permissions: force_checkout and lift_restriction |
| 07:12 |
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magnuse |
success! |
| 07:12 |
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wahanui |
hmmm... success is a good thing jenkins |
| 07:12 |
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magnuse |
confetti! |
| 07:12 |
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wahanui |
confetti is http://25.media.tumblr.com/tum[…]1qh8hleo1_400.gif |
| 07:12 |
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magnuse |
confetti! |
| 07:12 |
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wahanui |
o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
| 07:12 |
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magnuse |
\o/ |
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Oak |
:) |
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reiveune |
hello |
| 07:36 |
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wahanui |
what's up, reiveune |
| 07:38 |
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magnuse |
bonjour! |
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| 07:51 |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
| 07:52 |
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magnuse |
weirdness: one of my libraries get their overdue reminders gathered up in an atachment that is emailed to the library, instead of sending them to the individual patrons. is there some syspref that does that? |
| 07:53 |
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cait |
check the valid email |
| 07:53 |
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cait |
syspref |
| 07:53 |
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cait |
and if they have email |
| 07:54 |
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cait |
and check that you have not set the no email parameter in the overdues cronjob |
| 07:58 |
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magnuse |
valid email syspref? |
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gaetan_B |
good morning #koha |
| 08:02 |
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gaetan_B |
and happy new year :) |
| 08:23 |
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nlegrand |
hey #koha happy new year gaetan_B |
| 08:43 |
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magnuse |
cait: ah, perhaps you meant AutoEmailPrimaryAddress? that looks like it might play a role. thanks! |
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fiza |
helo |
| 08:54 |
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cait |
sorry, running around a lot today |
| 08:54 |
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cait |
everyone is back from the holidays :) |
| 09:43 |
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ashimema |
morning koha |
| 09:43 |
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cait |
morning ashimema |
| 09:49 |
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magnuse |
hiya ashimema |
| 09:49 |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
| 09:49 |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (10:20 AM CET on January 07, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.27 in 991 hPa (Steady). |
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ashimema |
:) |
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Herwig |
Hello |
| 10:36 |
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Herwig |
Jcamins are you there |
| 10:37 |
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magnuse |
too early for him i think |
| 10:38 |
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Herwig |
you gave me a script 2 weeks ago to change fields in OAI-PMH now ive made some changes (not sure its correct) ... but i dont have a clue how to get it running i probably have to change the url in the script also ... or someone else |
| 10:39 |
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Herwig |
never did this before |
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| 10:41 |
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Herwig |
its a xslt script |
| 10:42 |
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Herwig |
ok ill be back later maybe i have more luck |
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Joubu |
hi #koha |
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cait |
hi Joubu from Liverpool :) |
| 11:01 |
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ashimema |
cait.. you in Liverpool? |
| 11:21 |
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cait |
ah sorry, not me :) |
| 11:21 |
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* cait |
points at Joubu |
| 11:57 |
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Oak |
time to go home. |
| 12:12 |
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jcamins |
Herwig: I am not really here, and I haven't the faintest idea what you're asking about. |
| 12:14 |
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jcamins |
I suspect you want someone else whose nick starts with j. |
| 12:14 |
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Herwig |
no 2 weeks ago you gave me /usr/local/koha/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/xslt/ |
| 12:14 |
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Herwig |
sorr y wrong url |
| 12:15 |
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jcamins |
I can't help you with whatever file that is, because I have never used it. |
| 12:15 |
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jcamins |
Really. |
| 12:15 |
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jcamins |
I suspect you asked where a file is, and I gave you the correct path because I knew it off the top of my head. If I did that. |
| 12:15 |
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Herwig |
ah no you are correct it was not you sorry |
| 12:15 |
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Herwig |
mistake |
| 12:16 |
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jcamins |
No problem. |
| 12:16 |
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Herwig |
can you help with oai pmh configuration ? |
| 12:16 |
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jcamins |
I don't know anything about it, sorry. |
| 12:17 |
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jcamins |
You might as magnuse, as the URL you PMed me is for a file he wrote. |
| 12:17 |
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jcamins |
*ask |
| 12:17 |
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Herwig |
simpler question can i put axslt file annywhere to run it :) annyone ? |
| 12:17 |
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jcamins |
How are you running the XSLT file? |
| 12:18 |
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Herwig |
it should run out of the config file from oai |
| 12:19 |
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Herwig |
i was tinking putting it in /usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/xslt and put that adres in the file dont know if that works |
| 12:20 |
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jcamins |
I don't know, sorry. |
| 12:20 |
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Herwig |
first time ever i run a script :O) myself |
| 12:20 |
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Herwig |
i try to grab magnuse if he is online |
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koha-ba |
Hi guys, would anyone please be so kind and help me with importing excel data to KOHA? I tried it a few times, but with no luck.. |
| 12:35 |
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tcohen |
morning #koha |
| 12:36 |
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tcohen |
koha-ba: that's not a trivial task, as you need to create MARC records from that |
| 12:36 |
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tcohen |
what have you tried yet? |
| 12:41 |
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koha-ba |
Thank you. I have tried to create Marc records, and sucessfully created it, but after importing nothing shows in koha. Im willing to pay someone to remotely help me with it. |
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Herwig |
did the marc record contain data if you look at it in a text editor ? |
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Herwig |
i did this some months ago i did use http://marcedit.reeset.net/ |
| 12:46 |
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Herwig |
afther that i edited some fields with some perl script to make it cleaner |
| 12:48 |
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koha-ba |
yes, there are data in the file |
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koha-ba |
it took quite long to create it, as there are 14000 lines in excel file |
| 12:48 |
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Herwig |
and then Stage MARC records for import (i probably prepared item types first) |
| 12:50 |
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Herwig |
how big is it i'm stuck myself at the moment so send it and i give it a try ... can you put your marc file somewhere i can download it to test it |
| 12:51 |
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tcohen |
koha-ba: did you happen to have rebuilt your zebra indexes? |
| 12:51 |
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koha-ba |
Sure, I can. But I think the problem is in "Map To" Field im not really sure, what to put in there when creating Marc record |
| 12:53 |
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koha-ba |
tcohen: I dont think I did that. Dont remember doing it |
| 12:53 |
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tcohen |
that's it |
| 12:53 |
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tcohen |
how did you install Koha on the first place? |
| 12:53 |
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tcohen |
apt-get install koha-common ? |
| 12:54 |
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koha-ba |
Ive installed it according to this manual: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 12:54 |
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koha-ba |
and yes it was with> apt-get install koha-common |
| 12:55 |
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tcohen |
issue the command sudo koha-list |
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koha-ba |
koha-list command gives me the name koha |
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francharb |
Good morning |
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oleonard |
@wunder 45701 |
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huginn |
oleonard: The current temperature in OHDOT 31-Athens County Garage, Athens, Ohio is -20.6°C (7:30 AM EST on January 07, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: -24.0°C. Windchill: -26.0°C. Pressure: 30.43 in 1030 hPa (Rising). Wind chill warning in effect until 3 PM EST this afternoon... |
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cait |
hi oleonard |
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cait |
hope you are not frozen yet? |
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oleonard |
I'm not going on any leisurely morning walks today |
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cait |
very reasonable. |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 9.3°C (2:40 PM CET on January 07, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
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oleonard |
I imagine everyone in the southern US states are freaking out right now. |
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barton |
right there with you on the long walks, oleonard. |
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cait |
hi barton |
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barton |
morning, cait. |
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oleonard |
barton: It's the kind of weather where you start to worry the dog is planning an impromptu inside bathroom. |
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cait |
i have heard sign offs are great for warming up :) |
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oleonard |
They closed school today because of the cold. If only my kids knew how to test patches... |
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druthb |
o/ |
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talljoy |
o/ |
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nengard |
oleonard it's the kind of weather where my dog wants to go out all the time and play |
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nengard |
and mommy does not approve |
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nengard |
:) |
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druthb |
at least he's not in snow up to his eyeballs, nengard. Count yer blessings. |
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nengard |
this is true |
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nengard |
@wunder 78741 |
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huginn |
nengard: The current temperature in Bouldin-South Austin, Austin, Texas is -5.9°C (7:55 AM CST on January 07, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: -9.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 30.65 in 1038 hPa (Steady). |
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druthb |
@wunder 77098 |
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huginn |
druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is -2.2°C (7:55 AM CST on January 07, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: -12.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.60 in 1036 hPa (Rising). Hard freeze warning in effect until 9 am CST this morning... |
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talljoy |
these temps are not natural for TExas |
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talljoy |
@wunder 76109 |
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huginn |
talljoy: The current temperature in Cedar Creek Townhomes, Benbrook, Texas is -4.7°C (7:51 AM CST on January 07, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: -12.0°C. Windchill: -5.0°C. Pressure: 30.51 in 1033 hPa (Rising). |
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talljoy |
frickin polar vortex |
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druthb |
http://www.themoviedb.org/movi[…]ay-after-tomorrow |
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oleonard |
Whoops. There goes the power :( |
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oleonard |
Crap. |
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oleonard |
Oh wait, power in half the building? |
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talljoy |
ok i'm trying to retest a patch on my test server and it tells me that git bz apply <bug#> is not a valid git command. where can i look to see what's changed in how i apply a patch? |
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kivilahtio |
talljoy: Odd? This works for me http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_bz_configuration |
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kivilahtio |
talljoy: are you sure your git bz is properly configured? |
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talljoy |
i am clearly git-challenged. i get it into states that resemble spaghetti |
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kivilahtio |
talljoy: me too, I am not very good with this |
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talljoy |
i will have to get with one of my devs to help sort out what i've done |
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kivilahtio |
talljoy: but you used to be able to run that command succesfully? |
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talljoy |
oh yes. |
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magnuse_ |
what if you just do "git bz"? |
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talljoy |
as of a month ago, i was testing and even submitted a patch |
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kivilahtio |
gg! |
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talljoy |
git: 'bz' is not a git command. |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, talljoy. |
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talljoy |
did you mean am gc mv rm |
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magnuse_ |
something not right with the way t is installed, then |
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kivilahtio |
talljoy: follow the link I posted |
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magnuse_ |
meeting in 19 hours 37 minutes, right? |
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talljoy |
i'm looking at that and i'm going to have sys admin look at this. |
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kivilahtio |
talljoy: sounds like its time for a reinstall of git bz |
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talljoy |
something is different..... |
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talljoy |
yup. thanks! |
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kivilahtio |
when looking at the members/moremember.pl's listing of checkouts, I see a "Charge"-column. This is the charge for checking an item out? under the Charge-column there is a summary "Totals:" 0.90, meaning htat the patron has 0.90€ of fines. |
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kivilahtio |
We don't charge our patrons for borrowing |
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kivilahtio |
so this charge column is pretty useless |
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kivilahtio |
is there any way to get the fine for that item visible there instead of the empty Charge-column? |
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kivilahtio |
How do you deal with the Charge-colum if you don't charge patrons for borrowing? |
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kivilahtio |
should I just hide the column? Definetely the detailed patron view needs some work regarding this matter. IS there any way I could help with that? |
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kivilahtio |
http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9481 |
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huginn |
Bug 9481: major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , charge not showing fines |
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kivilahtio |
found it |
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* magnuse_ |
wanders off |
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cait |
kivilahtio: we don't hide it so far, libraries haven't requested it |
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cait |
I think i have said soemthing in training about the use of the column (checkout fee, not fine) and it was ok |
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kivilahtio |
cait: ok, I am certain I am going to hear about that sooner or later :) |
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cait |
kivilahtio: you can still hide it then with jquery |
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jcamins |
@wunder 11375 |
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huginn |
jcamins: The current temperature in Glendale, Glendale, New York is -14.4°C (9:36 AM EST on January 07, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: -25.0°C. Windchill: -22.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Rising). Wind Chill Advisory in effect until 6 PM EST this evening... |
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kivilahtio |
cait: Hmm, why do you hide it with jQuery and not from the template toolkit file? Ease of maintenance? |
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jcamins |
It's like Moscow out there. |
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cait |
kivilahtio: yes. |
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tcohen |
are u ok jcamins? |
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kivilahtio |
cait: ok, thank you! |
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koha-ba |
tcohen: Im sorry, m y internet dropped |
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cait |
tcohen: he speaks russian.. so i guess he will be |
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jcamins |
tcohen: yes, just really cold! |
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kivilahtio |
I heard a worker in the Finnish embassy just went skiing in the morning :) |
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tcohen |
the news show a really cold season! |
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jcamins |
Actually, today is a great day to be at this client's apartment. The building is kept nice and cozy. |
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kivilahtio |
incidentally there is practically no winter here in Finland, even though we are pretty used to having -20'C this time of year |
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jcamins |
And the heat is more like in Russia, so it's not unpleasant like in my apartment where the radiators make it dreadful. |
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kivilahtio |
I think New York got our winter |
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kivilahtio |
I am pretty jealous about that |
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kivilahtio |
I want to ski :) |
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kivilahtio |
jcamins: but how is it there? |
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cait |
they got ours too |
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kivilahtio |
jcamins: are you surviving? |
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jcamins |
kivilahtio: not too bad. I am indeed. :) |
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kivilahtio |
thanks for today #koha. Take care! |
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jcamins |
fines? |
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wahanui |
@quote get 123 |
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huginn |
wahanui: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
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wahanui |
...but quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is <reply>... |
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jcamins |
Just throwing that out there. |
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cait |
we won't disagree with you. |
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gmcharlt |
cait: thanks for confirming re the translation |
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cait |
np |
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cait |
thx for checking :) |
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gmcharlt |
np, I was just wondering why a random string change was present along with the rest of the patch :) |
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cait |
sorry for that |
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tcohen |
are UNIMARC zebra configuration files in the packages sane? |
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jcamins |
let's have more marc |
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jcamins |
let's have more marc! |
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jcamins |
how about more marc |
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jcamins |
more marc? |
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jcamins |
Eh, whatever. |
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tcohen |
jcamins: that means no, right? |
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jcamins |
tcohen: they are sane, yeah. |
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jcamins |
I think. |
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tcohen |
record.abs contains "melm 090$9 Local-number,Local-number:n" |
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tcohen |
but there's no mapping to 090$9 |
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tcohen |
(in the frameworks) |
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jcamins |
Though UNIMARC libraries mostly use authorities with GRS-1. |
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jcamins |
tcohen: that's a legacy thing. |
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jcamins |
biblionumber is now in 001, I think. |
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tcohen |
so is not relevant |
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jcamins |
I believe that is true. |
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tcohen |
jcamins: federated search inside Koha |
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tcohen |
how to deal with the serialization format issues? |
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jcamins |
Doesn't the federated search use pazpar2? |
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tcohen |
yes, but what output should I expect? |
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jcamins |
I think pazpar2 gives you MARCXML, but I'm not sure. |
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tcohen |
i mean, where is that handled? |
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jcamins |
Oh, no idea. |
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tcohen |
found it |
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tcohen |
is unrelated to my problem |
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tcohen |
(pazGetRecords) |
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reiveune |
bye |
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marjorie_ccsr |
Hi, i am testing course reserves on 3.12.7. On editing a course, i can not remove instructors. Is this bug is already on BZ? i found nothing. |
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gaetan_B |
bye ! |
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oleonard |
marjorie_ccsr: You click the "remove" link and nothing happens? |
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oleonard |
marjorie_ccsr: I see that problem in master |
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waves |
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tcohen |
hi cait :-D |
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cait |
hi tcohen |
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vfernandes |
hi :) |
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vfernandes |
one simples question: it's possible to deduct some money to a fund? for example, a fund with 1000€ allocated, it's possible to add a manual deduct of 100€ |
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vfernandes |
? |
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cait |
not without an order or reducing the fund |
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cait |
you could also create a child fund... but not sure what you want to to |
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cait |
deduct - reduce the amount allocated? |
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vfernandes |
kinda, substract a value |
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vfernandes |
but without changing the allocated value |
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vfernandes |
if it isn't can a value be subtract for every reception of periodicals? |
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cait |
normally you would substract a value for a subscription |
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cait |
so an annual amount |
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cait |
else you have to order every issue |
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cait |
you could do that... but then you woul dhave to receive them in serials and in acq |
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vfernandes |
hummm I understand... thanks cait |
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tcohen |
bbl #koha, cya |
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marjorie_ccsr |
oleonard: sorry, yes i click remove and nothing happens |
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Joubu |
bye! |
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oleonard |
@wunder 45701 |
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huginn |
oleonard: The current temperature in Whitlind Woods, Athens, Ohio is -12.9°C (2:10 PM EST on January 07, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: -19.0°C. Windchill: -13.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Rising). Wind chill warning in effect until 3 PM EST this afternoon... |
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jcamins |
@wunder 11375 |
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huginn |
jcamins: The current temperature in Glendale, Glendale, New York is -12.4°C (2:07 PM EST on January 07, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: -23.0°C. Windchill: -17.0°C. Pressure: 30.19 in 1022 hPa (Rising). Wind Chill Advisory in effect until 6 PM EST this evening... |
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jcamins |
Woohoo! It's warmer in New York. Except for windchill. |
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wizzyrea |
oleonard: i hope you are staying warm over there. |
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wizzyrea |
oleonard: also, do you have work started on updating to the new version of jquery? |
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oleonard |
wizzyrea: The work to upgrade jquery still depends on updating some plugins. I think tablesorter.js is all but removed, but there are others |
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wizzyrea |
aha gotya thanks |
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oleonard |
qTip, hotkeys, ratings, jqtransform_select, and jstree according to my notes |
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cait |
oleonard: hm i think the hotkeys one got updates |
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cait |
hm but not sure |
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cait |
was that shortcuts? |
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oleonard |
Yes, keyboard shortcuts |
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cait |
i think we had a patch about that |
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cait |
i qa'd something shortcut related :) |
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cait |
hm but not sure if it needs another update then |
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cait |
bug 11035 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11035 normal, P5 - low, ---, philippe.blouin, Pushed to Stable , Replace shortcut plugin jquery.hotkeys.min.js |
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oleonard |
Oh good, I wasn't sure what the status of that was |
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* oleonard |
crosses it off his list |
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oleonard |
You know, the list I'm making so much progress on :P |
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barton |
oleonard: read that as "curses it off his list". |
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oleonard |
Yeah, @$%& you, keyboard shortcuts! |
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barton |
Watch it with the array of referenes to hashes of subroutines, there, you'll end up doing more than crossing something off the list.... |
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barton |
... or just get a syntax error. |
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gmcharlt |
what would be truly scary is /not/ getting a syntax error |
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barton |
That would be Perl 3. |
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waves |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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* mtompset |
grumbles about having to figure out modal bootstrap forms. |
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oleonard |
Hard stuff is hard. |
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tcohen |
jcamins: http://9gag.com/gag/aXbMYyv |
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mtompset |
Yes, yes it was, tcohen! |
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jcamins |
tcohen: hehe. |
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mtompset |
oleonard: Any pointers? I just want a link that pops up a nice table with the option to close. |
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oleonard |
mtompset: I haven't done enough with it that I don't still have to go to the documentation every time |
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oleonard |
What's the context? |
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mtompset |
Put a link on opacnavright. |
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mtompset |
have it run a report. |
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mtompset |
format the output nicely to a popup. |
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mtompset |
kind of link the login in screen popup. |
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mtompset |
^link^like^ |
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mtompset |
Because https://.../cgi-bin/koha/svc/report?id=15 generates just JSON output. |
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wizzyrea |
it would be wicked cool if batch item edit also let you change the biblionumber the items were attached to. |
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wizzyrea |
in batch. |
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eythian |
hi |
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wahanui |
privet, eythian |
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oleonard |
batch item move wizzyrea? |
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wizzyrea |
is there such a thing? |
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wizzyrea |
did I miss it? |
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wizzyrea |
I thought you could only do it one at a time |
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oleonard |
No I don't think there is such a thing. I've never seen a situation where it was needed, myself. |
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wizzyrea |
I have a situation where a library has 800 serial items they'd like to merge with a duplicate record that has an additional 500 items. |
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oleonard |
Yikes |
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oleonard |
Man, serials are the worst. |
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wizzyrea |
yeah : |
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wizzyrea |
:( |
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druthb |
The only times I've needed large-scale item movements has been during migrations—some of the code I used for that might be usable against a running database, but it'd be something best done very, very carefully |
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wizzyrea |
hm that'd be in the migration toolkit eh |
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wizzyrea |
oh I forgot - druthb++ for that record fixing script thinger in there. |
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wizzyrea |
that was ages ago now that I used that but really handy. |
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druthb |
it would be, yes. Might look in the "Generic" directory somewhere. |
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I think I wrote one that would shift large numbers of items off one bib, and onto another, and tidy up holds, too. You had to reindex those recs after, but at the point I was using it, you had blank indexes anyway, so no itch. |
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druthb |
http://git.hiruthie.net |
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wizzyrea |
it's not a huge collection - that might be alright |
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wizzyrea |
http://git.hiruthie.net/?p=koh[…]762d20bee;hb=HEAD this one maybe? |
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* eythian |
twitches at the documentation being inaccurate |
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eythian |
Oh, not inaccurate so much as underspecified, I misread. |
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rangi |
hi all |
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wizzyrea |
heya |
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wizzyrea |
how's laurel? :) |
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rangi |
not too bad, watching wreck it ralph with kahu |
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rangi |
gmcharlt: ummm http://kuow.org/post/why-seatt[…]dered-its-gun-ban |
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gmcharlt |
rangi: all of a piece, alas |
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jcamins |
@wunder 10016 |
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huginn |
jcamins: The current temperature in Murray Hill, New York, New York is -12.1°C (5:18 PM EST on January 07, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: -21.0°C. Windchill: -12.0°C. Pressure: 30.23 in 1024 hPa (Rising). Wind Chill Advisory in effect until 6 PM EST this evening... |
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jcamins |
And which direction is the wind going? |
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jcamins |
North-south, and there isn't much of it. |
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So a walk across town shouldn't be too bad. |
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mtompset |
@wunder l7e 5y5 |
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huginn |
mtompset: The current temperature in Schomberg, Ontario is -18.9°C (5:45 PM EST on January 07, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: -24.0°C. Windchill: -24.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Rising). |
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maximep |
@wunder cyqb |
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maximep: The current temperature in Quebec, Quebec is -15.0°C (5:33 PM EST on January 07, 2014). Conditions: Snow Showers. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: -18.0°C. Windchill: -27.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Rising). |
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maximep |
baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah |
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jatara |
@wunder 75074 |
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jatara: The current temperature in Brookview, Plano, Texas is 7.1°C (4:45 PM CST on January 07, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 17%. Dew Point: -16.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Falling). |
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* mtompset |
grumbles. |
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mtompset |
Any suggestions on how to make a div containing a table magically appear? overwriting the data with a jquery result? |
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mtompset |
I've got a nice <table>...</table> built, and I just need to show it. |
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jatara |
why is the table not appearing at all? |
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mtompset |
That's the part I'm having problems with... I can toggle visibility on, and the old value shows, but it doesn't overwrite the old values with the new values. |
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mtompset |
Oops... # vs . |
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mtompset |
Still doesn't really solve the popup desire, but closer now. |
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eythian |
@wunder nzwn |
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mtj |
heya mtompset |
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wahanui |
it has been said that mtompset is catching up in the non-coding aspects of his ministry. |
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huginn |
eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 20.0°C (11:30 AM NZDT on January 08, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady). |
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eythian |
not too bad. |
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mtj |
from memory, ive removed an element, then append/prepend a new new - with jq |
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mtj |
mtompset ^^ |
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mtompset |
There's a function replaceWith. :) |
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mtompset |
I have a table now... but I want a popup. |
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mtompset |
Not a div in-line with everything. |
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mtj |
http://stackoverflow.com/quest[…]nd-remove-element |
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* dcook |
has no idea what mtompset is talking about |
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dcook |
But... |
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dcook |
@wunder sydney, australia |
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huginn |
dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 18.0°C (9:30 AM EST on January 08, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Rising). |
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* dcook |
shrugs |
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mtompset |
dcook: You know how the bootstrap log in for OPAC floats nicely and is a div popup? |
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mtompset |
I want that, except with table data and a close button. |
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dcook |
Nope. I almost never look at the bootstrap OPAC |
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dcook |
But good luck :) |
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mtj |
the jquery technique should be still that same, just insert some popup code |
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mtompset |
easier said than done. |
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mtj |
yep, i feel your pain |
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eythian |
yeah |
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mtompset |
I dumped that in OpacNavRight. |
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mtompset |
Kind of works in a very broken way. |
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mtompset |
Oh, and the header parameter is new from me. :) |
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mtompset |
What category does the svc stuff fall under? I'd like to submit the header patch. |
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pianohacker |
okay, devel advice. I have a really long running branch, what's the best way to rebase/merge in master and make it easy to submit later? |
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* dcook |
thinks eythian or rangi would be good people to ask |
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eythian |
rebase it on top of master. If you use -i you can squish patches that should go together. |
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pianohacker |
eythian: just a simple rebase --onto? |
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eythian |
but things that suit being logically separate should remain separate |
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eythian |
not even that, if you're on the branch just git rebase -i origin/master will do it |
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eythian |
assuming you started from master, anyway |
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pianohacker |
ah, right. Was thinking of something else. I'll just do that then. |
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mtj |
woah, that seattle library news story is quite surreal :/ |
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dcook |
mtj: link? |
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dcook |
hey ya oleonard! |
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oleonard |
Hi dcook |
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dcook |
How goes it? Isn't it supper time yet? |
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oleonard |
Yeah I just popped in hoping to catch larryb |
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* oleonard |
can't remember his time zone |
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rambutan |
mtj: ok, I'm curious. Do you have a link to the seattle library news story? |
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* dcook |
thinks larryb is...washington state? |
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oleonard |
He's just not frittering his day away in here then ;) |
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dcook |
hehe |
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dcook |
I think he might be in bywater's channel or around for PM at least? |
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mtj |
dcook, rambutan -> http://kuow.org/post/why-seatt[…]dered-its-gun-ban |
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rambutan |
mtj: yea, same recently in Michigan too, I think. In essence, state laws regarding such, where they exist, trump local policy. |
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oleonard |
Americans and their goddamn guns :( |
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dcook |
Exactly |
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rambutan |
damn majority rule and elected officials! |
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dcook |
I think that article is a microcosm of quite a bit of the debate.. |
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dcook |
benign dictatorship! |
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dcook |
Actually, Canada only recently got majority rule federally |
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dcook |
It was minority rule for quite a long time |
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dcook |
Well, it's still minority rule...but majority in name. |
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rambutan |
Kim Jong Un for president, and Dennis Rodman for vice! |
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dcook |
I wondered what happened to Dennis Rodman... |
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rambutan |
this is degenerating, I need to go back to wroking on my grant request. :) |
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dcook |
I read that as "gun request" |
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rambutan |
well, that's an idea. I could use a new shotgun, wonder if LSTA would support that? Training? Security? |
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eythian |
Just claim a duck problem. |
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oleonard |
Overdues prevention and return |
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mtompset |
duck problem? Sounds like a lead into the whole Duck Dynasty debate. :P |
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rambutan |
oh, yea, that works "collection management" |
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dcook |
And I thought that patrons were already scared to come back to the library with overdues.. |
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mtompset |
But librarians are not allowed guns, so that is kind of stupid. |
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pianohacker |
jeebus. 73 commits on the cataloging project, and it's still not done... |
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dcook |
mtompset: That wouldn't really solve anything anyway |
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dcook |
In fact, the pro gun people would probably say that the librarians should have guns. |
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mtompset |
It would if the librarians trained to be expert marksmen... wild west rules. ;) |
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rambutan |
I wish I could tell a short funny story about our firearms policy, but don't want to lay it out here online... |
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dcook |
Which just boosts the proliferation of weapons amongst citizens |
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mtompset |
The librarians need to be armed. The government is being tyrannical and telling them to let people bring their firearms in. :) |
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* dcook |
hopes that's a facetious comment. |
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rambutan |
You know, Missouri has open-carry, but you never see anybody carrying at Walmart or whereever..... |
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dcook |
A friend of mine mentioned recently that there was a "gun in" in Austin |
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dcook |
Lots of people bringing their guns into shops, like Walmart, and just going about their business gun in hand |
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dcook |
I think she misses Canada a bit |
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rambutan |
but then on Black Friday, sure as shinola, there was one guy standing in line for some 7" tablets at Walmart with a sidearm. Nobody seemed to notice or care. |
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dcook |
Folks can be desensitized to pretty much anything. |
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dcook |
Plus, I think most people rather pretend to ignore something than to make a fuss. |
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dcook |
Are you going to act weird around a guy with a sidearm? |
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oleonard |
I once stopped a guy walking into the library who was wearing a sidearm. He turned out to be a cop, but he sure was grumpy about showing me his badge. |
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* dcook |
actually doesn't have anything against guns per se. He enjoys target practice as much, if not more, than the next person, but they don't have a place in the public. |
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rambutan |
I just think the people that saw this guy didn't give a hoot, or at most were mildly bemused. |
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dcook |
oleonard++ |
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mtompset |
oleonard++ # Nice! |
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mtompset |
dcook: I was being a little sarcastic, yes. :) |
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dcook |
Can't tell with the internet (and you Easterners :P) |
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dcook |
I was actually telling an anecdote last night about the gun-related schenanigans of an Ontario guy I knew and his friends |
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dcook |
Gun and knife related actually. |
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mtompset |
Easterner?! BAH! I'm Eastern/Central. Easterners are those Maritime folk that snort when they laugh and have McLobsters. ;) |
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* pianohacker |
hopes *McLobsters* are a facetious comment... |
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dcook |
hehe |
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mtompset |
Actually... There are McLobsters! |
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rambutan |
where? |
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* dcook |
generally likes maritimers |
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mtompset |
http://www.mcdonalds.ca/ca/en/[…]es/mclobster.html |
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mtompset |
Oh, they are polite and friendly like the rest of us Canadians. :) |
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mtompset |
And I've been told the Ocean views are quite lovely. |
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dcook |
I suppose the west is actually the place known for its gun love.. |
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pianohacker |
wow... |
