IRC log for #koha, 2014-01-03

All times shown according to UTC.

Time S Nick Message
00:04 rambutan joined #koha
00:06 Harry joined #koha
00:06 Harry joined #koha
00:08 eythian
00:10 rangi[…]-whip-the-country
00:21 rambutan looks like the lamp post was rotten at the bottom anyway
00:21 rangi "What is left to blow down in Wellington has already blown down in the past several months"
00:22 rambutan what's a conservatory? a sun room maybe?
00:23 eythian sorta
00:23 eythian in essence, yes
00:23 eythian but usually made totally out of glass and attached to a house.
00:23 eythian whereas I'd consider a sunroom a smallish room with big windows.
00:24 rambutan close counts
00:25 rambutan :)
00:25 eythian traditionally you'd have plants in it.
00:25 eythian so that in cold old ~16th century England you could have tropical fruits growing to impress your guests when they visit.
00:26 eythian Now you usually have a few plants and use it to heat the rest of the house :)
00:34 rangi[…]5veU&noredirect=1  <-- we are kinda used to this weather now, this was 2 days ago
00:43 papa joined #koha
00:45 dac joined #koha
00:48 dcook joined #koha
00:49 vinz3g joined #koha
00:51 vinz3g good night, I wonder if anyone has experience in installing koha vhosts? using some panel, for example ZPanel or cpanel?
00:51 eythian good morning.
00:51 eythian no wait
00:51 eythian afternoon
00:52 vinz3g hi, good afternoon
00:53 eythian Most people don't tend to use Koha with panel things, so far as I know.
00:55 vinz3g ok, ok, okay, it's just trying to hold my VPS and have seen full Googling, you may do so, however there is not much documentation about it ...
00:57 eythian you probably can, but I wouldn't be surprised if it gets problematic in parts.
01:00 vinz3g ok, I think you're right, and it's better to have a dedicated vps koha
01:00 eythian I would recommend that.
01:04 rambutan left #koha
01:05 vinz3g Thanks
01:05 vinz3g Gracias!
01:13 eythian NO worries.
01:14 mtompset dcook: *ping*
01:14 dcook Hmm?
01:14 mtompset Are you ever going to get back to bug 10811?
01:14 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10811 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Failed QA , Add a 999$c record matching rule to the MARC21 defaults
01:14 dcook Mmm, maybe
01:15 dcook Probably even.
01:15 mtompset I'd love to sign it off. ;)
01:15 dcook I'd love for you to sign it off, but I'm working on local stuff atm.
01:15 mtompset I'm in the midst of cleaning up branches in my git repo.
01:18 mtompset No problem, I figure a reminder randomly can't hurt. Sometimes, people need a break from the piles of things thrown at them. :)
01:21 vinz3g left #koha
01:34 rocio left #koha
01:45 rambutan joined #koha
01:58 jcamins_ joined #koha
01:59 rambutan left #koha
02:14 dcook Hmm, looks like a bug in a log viewer..
02:26 slef joined #koha
02:32 eythian new master packages uploading, for those on the bleeding edge.
02:33 eythian Oh, I totally forgot to check that the version numbers would be right. Good thing they are.
02:41 dcook eythian++
02:42 dcook This log viewer isn't anywhere even close to right..
03:04 dcook Hmm
03:04 dcook Maybe I'll try gmcharlt's idea of a patch series...
03:19 jcamins joined #koha
03:21 mtompset joined #koha
03:38 Callender_ joined #koha
03:43 slef2 joined #koha
03:44 BigRig joined #koha
03:48 mtompset WOW! That was a split.
03:53 mtompset Have a great day, #koha!
04:31 slef joined #koha
05:10 slef joined #koha
05:27 dcook Bleargh...too many problems...
05:53 dcook That moment when you realize that someone has already fixed something in master and you didn't realize until you've already written out a detailed bug report
05:53 * dcook facepalm
05:53 wahanui http://buikitty.files.wordpres[…]120202-094434.jpg
05:54 dcook I guess only part of it was fixed..
06:06 cait joined #koha
06:24 barton_away joined #koha
06:34 cait good morning #koha
06:37 * magnuse waves
07:32 laurence joined #koha
07:34 cait left #koha
07:36 magnuse @wunder boo
07:36 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0°C (8:20 AM CET on January 03, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Steady).
07:36 magnuse yeah, i thought it was kinda warm...
07:49 ala3vo joined #koha
07:53 thd-away` joined #koha
07:56 paul_p joined #koha
07:56 arunkumars3189 joined #koha
07:56 arunkumars3189 hello
07:56 wahanui niihau, arunkumars3189
07:57 arunkumars3189 need info
08:02 alex_a joined #koha
08:34 cait joined #koha
08:34 alex_a joined #koha
08:37 reiveune joined #koha
08:37 reiveune hello
08:42 cait hi reiveune :)
08:43 reiveune hi cait, magnuse, rangi
08:43 magnuse bonjour reiveune
08:43 magnuse @wunder konstanz
08:43 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -0.1°C (9:40 AM CET on January 03, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: -0.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
08:43 magnuse @wunder boo
08:43 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0°C (9:20 AM CET on January 03, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Steady).
08:45 laurence1 joined #koha
08:46 cait magnuse: clear is a lie... lts of white fog today
08:50 laurence joined #koha
08:54 nlegrand hey #koha
08:59 laurence joined #koha
09:03 ashimema joined #koha
09:19 thd-away joined #koha
10:01 thd-away` joined #koha
10:30 paul_p joined #koha
10:33 ashimema joined #koha
11:29 thd-away joined #koha
11:29 ashimema quiet here today
11:30 * cait waves
11:31 thd-away joined #koha
11:34 ashimema tumbleweed drifts by..
11:34 ashimema hi cait
11:35 * cait felt a little ignored :)
11:35 cait friday aftre lots of holidays... guess still a lot of people on vacation
11:35 ashimema yeah... lucky buggers :P
11:36 cait i enjoy the quiet :)
11:36 cait working on something that I wanted to work on all last year
11:36 ashimema oh?
11:37 cait we have one heavier customized koha
11:37 cait used for manuscripts
11:37 cait updating it :)
11:37 ashimema You didn't get a chance to checkout the zebra locking bug did you?  I'd love to see that go in..
11:37 ashimema sounds fun..
11:37 cait which of those?
11:38 cait the problem is, i might not know how to test it
11:38 BigRig joined #koha
11:38 ashimema there's a pretty good test plan for it I believe..
11:39 ashimema Robin has verified it should work with packages too..  I’d QA but I signed it off in a various iteration..
11:39 ashimema and am about to give it another sign-ff comment as I've now tested it with yet more variations.. (I build a package with it)
11:42 cait which bug? :)
11:48 cait ashimema: bug number! .)
11:51 ashimema sorry.. kettle boiled.. I can't mis the kettle.. it's sacroligous
11:51 ashimema bug 11078
11:51 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11078 enhancement, P4, ---, dpk, Signed Off , can lose updates due to race condition during full rebuilds
11:54 cait ah i see
11:54 cait i think the flock testing scared me off a bit
11:54 cait not sure i know how to make sure that it actually does what it says :(
11:55 cait but i agree about wanting this to go in
11:55 cait ashimema: are you using external xslt btw?
11:56 ashimema is Chris on qa this release.. I think he would understand it nicely and could test it pretty quick.. it's a trivial patch really.. just gone through the loop a few times to get it perfect for packages etc.. both robin and galen have already pretty much given it their blessing.
11:57 cait ashimema: i agree with you - but sadly rangi is not
11:57 ashimema yes we use local xslt's now.. though I'm still pondering exactly how to merge in the updates from the changing default into our custom ones.
11:57 cait i was thinking maybe Joubu or khall
11:57 cait ashimema: doyou know if it takes a relativ path?
11:57 cait trying for the first time right now
11:58 cait the xslt are all in the same directory as the standard xslt
12:00 ashimema yeah, you can use relative paths..
12:00 ashimema you can host them pretty much anywhere you like ;)
12:00 ashimema but yeah.. we jsut stick them next to the defaults
12:01 cait ok... so um. what would the path be relativ to then?
12:01 * cait might be just a bit confused right now
12:05 cait ah i think i know
12:07 cait
12:08 cait at least it looks like it's working now :)
12:09 kivilahtio joined #koha
12:14 tcohen joined #koha
12:25 tcohen morning #koha!
12:25 cait hi tcohen
12:25 kivilahtio good day tcohen!
12:26 tcohen will this be a great year for Koha?
12:26 kivilahtio how do you deal with If you run it nightly, I get the same overdue email sent every day?
12:26 tcohen Yes! heh
12:26 kivilahtio ofc!
12:27 cait kivilahtio: look into the -t option
12:28 cait then it will follow the notice triggers set in the interface, that#s how we do it
12:30 kivilahtio cait: "Add the --triggered option for daily cron, at the risk of no notice being generated if the cron fails to run on time."
12:30 kivilahtio This could be circumvented by using the /etc/cron.daily/ -folder?
12:30 kivilahtio cait: I should read more thoroughyl :(
12:30 cait i guess the packages do it that way
12:31 cait what i tmeans is that if you miss to create your ovedues on one day for whatever reason
12:31 cait it's hard to recreate them the other day
12:31 cait or 'run the script for another date'
12:32 kivilahtio cait: hmm, I feel this wont be much of an issue
12:32 jwagner joined #koha
12:32 kivilahtio cait: Shouldn't happen very often
12:32 cait it should not :)
12:33 kivilahtio cait: Thanks for your help!
12:33 kivilahtio cait: And have a awesome new year
12:34 cait i am hoping :)
12:41 ashimema hmm... motd is a bit out of date.. we have 3.14.01 now ;)
12:42 francharb joined #koha
12:48 francharb Hello #koha
12:50 kivilahtio gday francharb!
12:59 collum joined #koha
12:59 paul_p joined #koha
13:06 francharb joined #koha
13:06 meliss joined #koha
13:11 oleonard joined #koha
13:14 barton joined #koha
13:15 oleonard Hi #koha
13:17 kmkale joined #koha
13:19 kmkale Happy new year #koha
13:23 oleonard And to you too kmkale
13:23 kmkale Hi oleonard
13:25 kmkale looks great
13:26 kmkale is it based on some FOSS? or is it koha community creation?
13:26 tcohen rangi's
13:27 francharb joined #koha
13:28 kmkale Wow!! rangi++
13:36 cait happy new year kmkale and oleonard
13:37 kmkale hey cait
13:37 kmkale hi druthb
13:37 druthb hi, kmkale.  :)
13:37 kmkale :-)
13:37 kivilahtio dashboard is cool!
13:38 kivilahtio I wonder how it is made
13:38 kmkale reading about sandboxes. Fascinating!!
13:38 kivilahtio I'm pretty sure it's not built on Jira :)
13:38 cait i think it pulls data from different sources
13:38 cait and quite sure there is a git repo somewhere
13:39 magnuse kivilahtio:
13:39 kmkale yup thats a piece of work much worth spinning off as a project on its own
13:39 kmkale hi magnuse :-)
13:39 magnuse hiya kmkale!
13:40 cait kmkale: it's probably quite specific to koha tho
13:41 magnuse it's mostly data from bugzilla, isn't it? i can imagine other projects finding something like that useful
13:41 cait magnuse: but it's all our custom status and such, so it would take work to modify i guess
13:41 cait but I can see your point :)
13:41 magnuse that's true
13:42 magnuse and if we all make sure we get our names on there every month, great things will happen! :-)
13:42 kmkale I'm sure it can be adopted. Looks really great!
13:45 kmkale sandboxes is fantastic for testing! Kudos #koha
13:48 BigRig_ joined #koha
13:48 Callender joined #koha
13:52 edveal joined #koha
13:58 bgallagher joined #koha
14:01 bgallagher Well I ate deep fried pigeon, shark fin, and goose flipper tonight
14:01 tcohen hi magnuse !
14:01 magnuse hiya tcohen and bgallagher
14:02 oleonard bgallagher: If I didn't know where you were right now I might think you were eating with hobos
14:02 oleonard (okay maybe not the shark fin part)
14:02 bgallagher Haha
14:05 cait happy new year bgallagher :)
14:05 oleonard bgallagher: I hope you're getting some fresh fruit too. Mangosteens, longans, rambutans, etc.
14:05 kivilahtio especially rambutans
14:06 bgallagher oleonard: Not durarian (spelling?) though
14:06 bgallagher Happy new year cait
14:06 magnuse is that the smelly one?
14:06 bgallagher Yes that is the smelly one
14:06 oleonard Yeah I was warned against that one
14:07 magnuse "the durian is distinctive for its large size, strong odour, and formidable thorn-covered husk"
14:07 bgallagher Two of the hotels we stayed at had it listed that you could not bring it in to the hotel
14:08 magnuse lol
14:09 magnuse Alfred Russel Wallace seems to have been quite fond of it though:[…]Flavour_and_odour
14:15 bgallagher Alright night night all
14:22 NateC joined #koha
14:42 ebegin joined #koha
14:43 francharb pouette
14:43 ebegin good morning
14:48 oleonard @wunder 45701
14:48 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Whitlind Woods, Athens, Ohio is -12.7°C (9:40 AM EST on January 03, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: -16.0°C. Windchill: -13.0°C. Pressure: 30.45 in 1031 hPa (Rising).
14:48 ebegin @wunder montreal quebec
14:48 huginn ebegin: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is -23.0°C (9:00 AM EST on January 03, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: -30.0°C. Windchill: -30.0°C. Pressure: 30.28 in 1025 hPa (Rising).
14:49 ebegin :(
14:49 oleonard I had a feeling you could top mine ebegin
14:49 cait gr.
14:49 * cait changed something int he breadcrumbs and now they won't work
14:50 cait *sigh*
14:50 ebegin warmer that yesterday's -27C :)
14:51 jcamins cait: I always add oregano.
14:52 ebegin pffff... just write a line for debug purpose and I wrote 'warm' instead of 'warn' :)
14:53 oleonard ebegin: You might have to take off your mittens
14:54 * jcamins heads into the city, having helped cait on her quest for better fried food.
14:54 cait lol
14:54 cait thx jcamins
14:54 tcohen hi gmcharlt
14:58 maximep joined #koha
15:04 cait i am gonig to scream if i can't figure out what's going wrong here soon :(
15:05 francharb cait, breathe
15:05 francharb everything gonna be alright
15:05 francharb ;)
15:05 cait hmpf? :)
15:05 tcohen cait: what's up?
15:05 cait hard to explain because i changed something... just send cookies?
15:05 talljoy joined #koha
15:06 * tcohen sends mate cookies with dulce de leche
15:06 ashimema any packaging guru's about?
15:06 * druthb sends cookies, too
15:06 cait tcohen: do they exist?
15:06 * francharb pitch a load of cookies to cait
15:06 francharb ;)
15:07 tcohen cait: of course not, but if you bring some mate cookies, I'll put dulce de leche on them
15:10 cait k
15:13 ashimema tcohen:  I followed the easy packaging guide.. and for quickness am trying to install the created package using the 'dpkg -i' -> 'apt-get -f install' method.. should i really get lots of lines like: Use of uninitialized value in numeric lt (<) at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/ins​taller/data/mysql/
15:13 ashimema for the dpkg -i piece?
15:14 ashimema the apt-get then fails
15:14 ashimema slightly lost now... sure it worked the first time
15:14 tcohen that happens (usually) when you have already tried creating an instance
15:15 tcohen but it hasn't got its DB initialized
15:15 tcohen so when you install, it tries to upgrade the db schema
15:15 ashimema I see.. that might make sense
15:16 tcohen bug 8779
15:16 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8779 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, NEW , .deb upgrade fails on incomplete instance setup
15:16 ashimema awesome.. knew you were the right guy to ask
15:17 tcohen i completely forgot about that bug
15:17 tcohen i'll try to do something about it
15:17 ashimema hehe.. cheers
15:18 tcohen we just need to catch the db upgrade failure, alert the user and move on, I guess
15:18 kivilahtio do you have experience between lxc and kvm?
15:18 ashimema I'm generally trying to get to grips with the packaging stuff.. adding one more person to the small list of people who can reasonably thoroughly check packaging bugs.
15:19 kivilahtio any opinions? Which would be more suitable for Koha?
15:19 ashimema yeah.. that's sounds about right.
15:19 kivilahtio we have only one serve rto run all the services on
15:19 cait argh.
15:19 kivilahtio I guess I should separate MariaDB and Koha to separate LXC's
15:19 tcohen kvm certaintly is suitable
15:19 tcohen the question is if lxc is
15:20 kivilahtio tcohen: then again should I just skip virtualization :)
15:20 cait argh = might have found it :)
15:20 kivilahtio would make things easier for sure
15:20 tcohen for me, vistualization is really easy
15:21 kivilahtio just thinking about separating db and logic
15:21 tcohen just a couple of commands
15:21 kivilahtio tcohen: What I am worried about is the increased overhead caused by virutalization
15:21 kivilahtio tcohen: I agree, with libvirt virtualization is quite easy, but there are some optimization parts that get more complex
15:22 kivilahtio tcohen: I am just curious if there is any benefit to virtualization when using one server to host the DB and application logic(Koha)
15:22 tcohen we virtualize everything here (300+ servers)
15:22 cait unreadable_templates--
15:22 tcohen the only benefit I see is isolation
15:22 kivilahtio tcohen: up
15:22 kivilahtio 300+ wow
15:22 kivilahtio I am trying to grasp that
15:22 tcohen the bottleneck is (as usual) IO
15:23 kivilahtio so it's not only Koha
15:23 kivilahtio tcohen: we got some HP brand SSD's
15:23 kivilahtio shouldnt be an issue :) tho ridiculously expensive, just crazy, and our provider didnt let us use anything more affordable
15:23 tcohen if you have spare memory you won't have problems with IO and the DB
15:23 ashimema the koha-remove script isn't completely thorough either yet is it..
15:23 kivilahtio tcohen: 128GB
15:24 kivilahtio tcohen: but I was planning to run the zebra index from the ssd
15:24 kivilahtio tcohen: for us the zebra index gets pretty large, say 50GB+
15:24 tcohen having mysql apart from the front-end server makes sense for (horizontal) scalability
15:24 kivilahtio tcohen: I thought they comp0ete for resources if they are under one OS
15:24 tcohen (i.e. multiple http front-ends, a single shared db)
15:25 kivilahtio tcohen: ok
15:25 tcohen they will compete anyway (in the host OS)
15:26 kivilahtio tcohen: I thought virtualization solves that one?
15:26 kivilahtio tcohen: they compete for IO
15:26 kivilahtio tcohen: But I thought if there are multiple threads in Koha, then DB might have to wait for CPU time
15:27 tcohen that's correct kivilahtio
15:27 kivilahtio tho we have 2x4 cores, but wouldnt want to waste hardware on inefficiency
15:27 kivilahtio but then again virtualization adds overhead and I have no idea which one is better
15:28 tcohen virtualization will give you flexibility
15:28 kivilahtio tcohen: yeah, that is pretty awesome
15:28 tcohen the overhead is not something to worry about
15:28 tcohen you wont' notice it
15:28 kivilahtio tcohen: ok, thanks! I'll stick to KVM+libvirt then. But I think i notice it esp with SSD's
15:28 kivilahtio but I can just give the Zebra indexer native access to SSD's
15:29 kivilahtio with libvirt+KVM I noticed the IO to be somewhat slower
15:29 tcohen oh, i have no experience with SSD in servers, we have several storage servers (with and without SSD) but we use them through iSCSI
15:29 tcohen (SCSI-over-Ethernet)
15:30 tcohen so we have latency
15:30 kivilahtio tcohen: OK
15:30 tcohen but, we use lots of caching and RAM :-D
15:30 kivilahtio SSD's cost like 2000$ a piece so I am not sure should we buy them
15:30 kivilahtio 200GB
15:31 kivilahtio And we have them mirrored, so duh
15:32 rocio joined #koha
15:35 tcohen kivilahtio: you should make some performance tests before investing i guess
15:35 jenkins_koha Starting build #291 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
15:35 tcohen maybe is not a bad idea to have the ssd drives, but it will depend on the load/size of your setup
15:36 kivilahtio tcohen: I am mostly worried about how Zebra deals with caching, and can you preload the zebra to RAM on startup?
15:37 tcohen i'm not aware of that, sorry
15:37 kivilahtio tcohen: It is pretty hard to make preformance tests as we dont have any data from our current ILS
15:37 kivilahtio there is no coparison benchmark
15:37 kivilahtio but I did some two years ago
15:37 kivilahtio our investement should cover us pretty well :)
15:38 tcohen you might just test and see how bad it is
15:39 jenkins_koha Starting build #1582 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
15:40 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11192: (follow-up) fix a little typo <[…]b33356b8ac945f451> / Bug 11192: Fix lf and ff07-02 definition in <[…]c183751309fa95c6e>
15:44 oleonard Looks like OCLC's starting to do more and more RDA cataloging. Some records from OverDrive are NOW IN ALL CAPS.
15:51 kivilahtio have a nice weekend!
15:52 cait oleonard: and all caps is rda?
15:52 * cait has some doubts
15:54 oleonard RDA rules say that the cover of the book is the definitive reference for title, including case.
15:54 cait hm
15:55 cait interesting
15:55 wahanui i guess interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
15:55 oleonard wahanui: I'm picking "bad" in this case
15:55 wahanui oleonard: huh?
15:55 cait oleonard: it hink it's a question of interpretation maybe?
15:55 cait can't see germany adopting that rule :)
15:56 oleonard cait: Luckily RDA also says that all cataloging decisions are left to the discretion of the cataloger.
15:56 oleonard RDA: "Follow these rules! Or don't. Whatever."
15:57 gmcharlt oleonard: or, level 3 strikes again!
15:59 ashimema tcohen: bug 8773, how would one go about using a different indexing daemon with it? I assume it's just replace one of the config variables with the command to run another indexer... now that daemon mode is available in I'd love to see if this patch can also support it.
15:59 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Add per-instance koha-index-daemon in .deb setup
15:59 tcohen ashimema: /etc/default/koha-common
16:00 tcohen INDEXER_DAEMON="koha-index-daemon"
16:00 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11066: (follow-up) add regression test <[…]555f96445682a0c28> / Bug 11066: make RIS and Bibtex exports RDA compatible <[…]8aed70af93a5a4f61>
16:02 ashimema tcohen: cheers.. I'll have a play.. very very close to signing off on qa for it now.. it's been a long time coming (sorry for that).. but i had to learn rather allot on the way to it..
16:02 ashimema Works perfectly with the tamil indexer already :)
16:03 tcohen it does
16:03 tcohen i belive we need to refactor the rebuild_zebra script soon
16:03 tcohen anyway, the koha-*-indexer scripts all set the relevant environment variables
16:04 tcohen (those introduced by 8773)
16:04 tcohen the question would be if there's something tamil's-specific that would prevent rebuild_zebra to be daemonized
16:08 tcohen ashimema: i meant the koha-indexer script
16:09 cait ashimema++
16:10 ashimema rebuild_zebra has needed a good re-factoring (read re-writing from scratch) for a while..  I think you explained the whole history fo those bugs to me at some point.. shame an internal one didn't get through before tamil came on the scene.
16:11 ashimema koha-indexer script.. sorry you lost me slighlty there.
16:13 tcohen koha-indexer is a helper script for packages
16:13 tcohen that has several switches
16:13 tcohen you should test it upon signing
16:13 tcohen koha-indexer --help
16:14 tcohen it is called from the init script
16:17 ashimema just reading it now..
16:18 ashimema you think koha-indexer needs refactoring or then..
16:21 ashimema ack.. too many 'indexer' mentions.. I had my head wrapped around this stuff.. or at least I thought I had..  yes, I have tested the koha-indexer script.. with tamil enabled.. works nicely.. just reading it to see if/what would need to change to get it working nicely with rebuild_zebra (or rather koha-rebuild-zebra)
16:25 cait bye all :)
16:25 cait left #koha
16:27 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #291: SUCCESS in 52 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/291/
16:27 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 11192: Fix lf and ff07-02 definition in
16:27 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 11192: (follow-up) fix a little typo
16:27 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11192 normal, P5 - low, ---, mathsabypro, Pushed to Master , Fix two definitions in
16:33 jenkins_koha Starting build #292 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
17:02 talljoy good mid-morning #koha
17:03 talljoy later tell cait just got your message on 2499 i will take a look
17:03 cait joined #koha
17:04 talljoy cait just got your message on 2499 i will take a look
17:04 cait thx
17:05 rambutan joined #koha
17:08 laurence left #koha
17:10 NateC joined #koha
17:25 tcohen ashimema: INDEXER_DAEMON needs a daemon, not a command
17:26 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #292: UNSTABLE in 52 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/292/
17:26 jenkins_koha * Joy Nelson: Bug 11066: make RIS and Bibtex exports RDA compatible
17:26 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11066: (follow-up) add regression test
17:26 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11066 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, joy, Pushed to Master , Export Citations not RDA compatible
17:37 tcohen bug 8375, we should be using something like jasper reports
17:37 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8375 normal, P5 - low, ---, matted-34813, Signed Off , Common diacritics not shown correctly when exporting batch label to PDF
17:42 reiveune bye
17:42 reiveune left #koha
17:47 jeff "Some people, when faced with a reporting problem, think 'I know, I'll use JasperReports!'. Now you have Java."
17:47 jeff (i kid, i kid!)
17:48 jeff We use JasperReports Server here to report against statistics databases and Evergreen.
17:48 jcamins jeff: and then there are the people who when faced with the desire to play a card game say "I know, I'll just define a new language for defining card games."
17:50 meliss joined #koha
17:51 jeff does "taking an existing card game and defining a new variant/expansion based on a programming language" count?
17:52 jeff because oddly enough, that was something that came up in brief conversation last night. :P
17:52 jcamins jeff: that was my original plan, but it's gotten wildly out of hand.
17:53 jcamins jeff: it turns out that if you don't want to hard code every aspect of the game, you have a problem.
17:54 tcohen interesting pov jcamins
17:55 jcamins tcohen: it seems counter-intuitive, but there are actually entire conferences devoted to describing games.
17:56 jeff And just to be clear, I think JasperReports is a great option for reporting, and JasperReports Server is a handy tool for staff to use for self-service reports against a wide array of sources. I just find myself staring at a Java stacktrace and dealing with Java more often than I like.
17:56 jeff Works very well for most users, though. I make no claims of its suitability either way for Koha.
17:57 jcamins Wow, what a heading: ‎‡a Augusta Dorothea,‏ ‎‡c Princess, consort of Anton Günther II, Prince of Schwarzburg-Sondershausen,‏ ‡d 1666-1751‏
17:58 jcamins There's no authority for Anton Günther himself.
17:58 jcamins Seemingly.
17:59 oleonard I'll bet Anton Günther II would be mad to hear that his consort made more of herself than he did
18:00 jcamins oleonard: yeah, what a memorial: "Not as important as someone considered so unimportant as to not have her own name."
18:01 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1582: UNSTABLE in 2 hr 23 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1582/
18:01 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 11192: Fix lf and ff07-02 definition in
18:01 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 11192: (follow-up) fix a little typo
18:01 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11192 normal, P5 - low, ---, mathsabypro, Pushed to Master , Fix two definitions in
18:05 jenkins_koha Starting build #1583 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1581 1 day 0 hr ago)
18:07 tcohen jeff, the problem seems to be getting jasper server to run out of the box with whatever Koha needs to use it. It could be a nice enhancement for vendors to offer clients
18:10 * magnuse convinces himself to start making pizza
18:10 jcamins magnuse: I made some awesome pizza yesterday.
18:10 jcamins Usually I make it after coming back late from work so I don't give it much time to proof, but yesterday Shari had to run errands after I got home, so it had time to rise.
18:14 magnuse i have a dough with lots of fiber in it - if i give it any time to rise it falls flat
18:14 magnuse the faster i can get it into the oven the better, it seems
18:15 magnuse ah, i use "wholemeal flour" according to google translate
18:15 * magnuse wanders off to actually do it
18:19 * tcohen makes his own pizza tooooo
18:19 * tcohen cooks its home made pizzas on his spit
18:21 tcohen Charcoal grilled
18:29 jcamins magnuse: I usually use whole wheat flour, though yesterday I didn't out of pique with the whole wheat flour I've been using.
18:31 tcohen jcamins: have you tried like this[…]o/s1600/pizza.jpg
18:31 jcamins We don't have a grill.
18:32 jcamins I grilled hamburger buns once when visiting a friend, though.
18:32 tcohen grilled pizza is great :-D
18:32 jcamins Yeah, I'd love to have a grill.
18:34 * cait would be happy with a new oven too
18:34 cait no pizza for me currently
18:39 Saber_ joined #koha
18:40 jcamins cait: when are you getting your oven replaced?
18:41 cait dunno
19:36 * talljoy is glad she already ate lunch.  grilled pizzas would drive me insanely hungry
19:44 rambutan joined #koha
19:46 edveal joined #koha
19:47 jcamins Someone just skied by across the street.
19:48 jcamins Apparently we can add "skiing" to our list of "ways people travel to get around New York City in 2014."
19:49 cait ?
19:49 jcamins cait: this is the first time I ever saw someone skiing in the city.
19:49 cait i have never seen that here
19:51 jcamins It's not an obvious mode of urban transportation to me.
19:51 jcamins So I can't say I'm surprised.
19:51 cait not really
19:51 cait youactually got so much snow in the city?
19:52 jcamins Except to that one enterprising woman who was going remarkably fast.
19:52 jcamins No.
19:52 jcamins We got 10cm, maybe.
19:52 cait oh
19:53 jcamins Oh, huh. 17cm.
19:55 jcamins Ugh. Forecast is for -11C on Tuesday.
19:56 cait we got rain
19:56 cait no snow this year so far
19:56 cait well not here in Konstanz, it's a weird winter
20:01 rambutan @wunder 64507
20:01 huginn rambutan: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 1.0°C (2:01 PM CST on January 03, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1015 hPa (Falling).
20:03 druthb @wunder 77098
20:03 huginn druthb: The current temperature in WEST UNIVERSITY, HOUSTON, Texas is 15.4°C (2:02 PM CST on January 03, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 28%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.31 in 1026 hPa (Rising).
20:03 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
20:03 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
20:03 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1583: FIXED in 1 hr 59 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1583/
20:03 jenkins_koha * Joy Nelson: Bug 11066: make RIS and Bibtex exports RDA compatible
20:03 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11066: (follow-up) add regression test
20:03 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11066 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, joy, Pushed to Master , Export Citations not RDA compatible
20:03 edveal-tablet joined #koha
21:16 tcohen joined #koha
21:47 NateC joined #koha
22:29 rocio1 joined #koha
22:40 edveal left #koha
22:49 NateC joined #koha
22:50 mtompset joined #koha
22:50 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
22:50 mtompset[…]66947&postcount=5 ("I think you need Cat-alyst drivers for that motherboard")
23:06 mtompset Have a great day, #koha.
23:06 francharb bye all
23:25 maximep left #koha
23:48 magnuse @wunder boo
23:48 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 7.0°C (11:50 PM CET on January 03, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.36 in 994 hPa (Steady).
23:48 magnuse weird winter indeed

| Channels | #koha index | Today | | Search | Google Search | Plain-Text | plain, newest first | summary