IRC log for #koha, 2013-12-20

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00:00 * wizzyrea waves, hacks up a lung
00:01 dcook wizzyrea: Not doing so well?
00:02 wizzyrea jeez.
00:03 wizzyrea i like my lungs inside my body. This thing where they're trying to escape is not so cool.
00:03 dcook :(
00:03 dcook Not cool at all!
00:03 dcook Hope you feel better soon
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00:13 rambutan blackberry brandy will fix that
00:13 wizzyrea booze would solve several problems, I reckon
00:13 eythian well, if you still lived next door, I could tell you where my whisky stash it, but you went and moved...
00:13 eythian *stash is
00:16 wizzyrea curses!
00:16 wizzyrea it's not that far...
00:17 dcook hehe
00:18 wizzyrea no it's really not, it's maybe 250m
00:18 wizzyrea ;)
00:18 dcook Christmas holidays must be on now
00:19 dcook Might be inappropriate to get Spud to do a booze run at that age though...
00:19 wizzyrea lol.
00:20 wizzyrea Thatch still has some of that Balvenie...
00:21 wizzyrea can't talk, getting wasted.
00:21 eythian balvenie will be good for curing what ailes.
00:26 dcook hehe
00:26 dcook Only...5.5 more hours until beer o'clock
00:26 dcook Well, first I need to buy a snorkel and some flour...
00:26 dcook All three are unrelated activities, btw.
00:27 dcook Although I suppose I could make perogies while drinking and at least wearing the snorkel...but that might be a bit odd.
00:30 rangi *sigh*
00:31 rangi even marshall gets commercial and proprietary confused
00:31 rangi Libraries will continue to explore a diverse array of technology strategies, including those based on software created under open source and commercial licenses. Some libraries feel open source software is more consistent with library values, and they will actively avoid commercially licensed products.
00:31 rangi[…]-and-Beyond.shtml
00:32 dcook Perhaps a polite reminder would be in order?
00:38 rambutan pointless?
00:40 rangi probably yeah, now its been published
00:50 mtompset Hey, wizzyrea. I'm just finishing off touches on the news by branch.
00:50 mtompset I was wondering if perhaps I should add on news to the quick slips as part of the finishing touches?
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02:07 * dcook just saw rocio's welcome yesterday
02:07 dcook @later tell rocio welcome to the Koha community!
02:07 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded.
02:33 dcook Whoa, 1:33pm...
02:33 dcook No wonder I'm hungry.
02:52 rangi[…]13864207667318785
02:53 rangi (one of the partners at Buddle Findlay .. the law firm who did pro bono work on the TM case)
02:55 dcook :D
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03:21 eythian All rise!
03:21 eythian It is now beer o'clock.
03:21 eythian Be seated.
03:21 * dcook looks at the next 2 hours and 39 minutes
03:22 dcook Make that 38 minutes.
03:22 dcook Not that I'm counting..
03:22 eythian *37
03:46 dcook Beer beer beer
03:50 dcook Interesting...Google's "OR" search doesn't look too good
03:51 dcook Mmm, their documentation doesn't match the actual practice. :O
03:58 dcook Interesting, to get their "OR" search to work, you have to triple it
03:59 dcook this OR OR OR that
04:00 dcook Or not..
04:00 dcook Mmm case sensitive boolean operator
04:01 dcook Actually, that triple OR is really not good
04:01 dcook But due to page rank it doesn't really matter because results for "OR" will fade into the background (in theory)
04:01 * dcook stops ranting about Google's search interface
04:06 dcook Ok, maybe not
04:06 dcook It looks like it only uses implicit AND
04:06 dcook Uses a case sensitive OR
04:06 dcook And only uses "-" for NOT
04:06 * dcook is now done.
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04:35 jenkins_koha Starting build #270 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #264 9 days 8 hr ago)
04:39 jenkins_koha Starting build #1563 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1547 9 days 7 hr ago)
04:42 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10626: (follow-up) replace use of KohaAuthorisedValues in the Bootstrap theme <[…]467b585202c7ab117> / Bug 10626: (follow-up) remove final invocation of KohaAuthorisedValues <[…]7865d0d5a3b13a8dd> / Bug 10626: (follow-up) replace an instance of KohaAuthor
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05:27 mtompset So close! final debug on splitting not quite right.
05:27 mtompset It's late. Try for tomorrow.
05:30 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #270: STILL UNSTABLE in 55 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/270/
05:30 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10626: Remove doubled up TT plugins - Merge KohaAuthorisedValues and AuthorisedValues
05:30 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10626: (follow-up) replace an instance of KohaAuthorisedValues
05:30 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10626: (follow-up) remove final invocation of KohaAuthorisedValues
05:30 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10626: (follow-up) replace use of KohaAuthorisedValues in the Bootstrap theme
05:30 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10626 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Remove doubled up TT plugins
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05:50 mtompset Anyone have ideas why a hash would magically be empty?
05:50 mtompset I dump it before adding it to the $template->param( branch_list => \%href_branches );
05:51 mtompset I know there are values in it. But the template processes nothing?!
05:53 dcook I can't recall for sure, but you might need to use the backslash to turn it into a reference then pass in the variable containing the reference into the param hash
05:53 dcook I might be making that up, but a faint memory suggests that might be the case
05:54 mtompset I actually tried dereferenced too.
05:54 mtompset Let me try again, perhaps I'm half awake.
05:54 dcook Hmm, actually, yeah, I'm totally wrong
05:59 dcook @karma Bywater
05:59 huginn dcook: Karma for "Bywater" has been increased 35 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 35.
05:59 dcook @karma BywaterSolutions
05:59 huginn dcook: BywaterSolutions has neutral karma.
05:59 dcook Bywater++
05:59 dcook I've been meaning to try this for a while :[…]ion-into-notices/
05:59 dcook Works like a charm
06:00 dcook That Melia Meggs was a great writer
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06:15 cait good morning #koha
06:16 dcook morning cait
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06:19 mtompset You have to be kidding me. TT is case sensitive?!
06:19 dcook mtompset: Why wouldn't it be?
06:20 mtompset keywords shouldn't be case sensitive.
06:20 dcook I'm wondering why I'm getting the "EnhancedMessagingPreferences" is turned off warning on my prod server but not my test server, even though it is off in both...
06:20 dcook What keywords?
06:20 mtompset IN
06:20 mtompset [% FOREACH var IN list %]
06:20 dcook You had it in lowercase?
06:20 mtompset Yes.
06:20 dcook Well that just seems silly :p
06:21 cait morning dcook
06:21 cait how is friday?
06:21 dcook cait: Not bad at all. I've been busting lots of local bugs.
06:21 cait good to hear
06:21 cait last work day before christmas too
06:21 dcook Down to 71 local issues I think. Most are enhancement requests too so that's handy.
06:21 mtompset That was my final problem!
06:21 dcook Nah, I'm working Monday too
06:22 dcook My wife is working on Monday so I figured there was no point taking it off as well
06:24 mtompset 71 local issues?!
06:25 cait dcook: but last day for me:P
06:25 dcook lol
06:25 dcook Well, that's good, cait
06:25 dcook mtompset: As I said, most are enhancement requests
06:30 dcook 27% are bugs. More than I would like but not too bad. I would say 50% at least are also bugs in master and the remaining 50% are data-related and localization related
06:30 dcook But that's just an estimate ;)
06:33 dcook Oh my...
06:33 dcook I didn't realize that "EnhancedMessagingPreferences" didn't actually disable messaging
06:33 dcook "The "EnhancedMessagingPreferences" syspref is off.
06:33 dcook Therefore, it is unlikely that this script will actually produce any messages to be sent."
06:34 dcook I always interpretted "unlikely" to mean "impossible"
06:41 dcook Good to know
06:45 mtompset Well, sleep has been earned. :)
06:45 mtompset Tomorrow, I get to test and set my patch ready for re-testing again.
06:46 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha dcook cait and whoever else may be lurking now. :)
07:03 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1563: STILL UNSTABLE in 2 hr 26 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1563/
07:03 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10626: Remove doubled up TT plugins - Merge KohaAuthorisedValues and AuthorisedValues
07:03 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10626: (follow-up) replace an instance of KohaAuthorisedValues
07:03 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10626: (follow-up) remove final invocation of KohaAuthorisedValues
07:03 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10626: (follow-up) replace use of KohaAuthorisedValues in the Bootstrap theme
07:03 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10626 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Remove doubled up TT plugins
07:06 dcook Ok, time to go do errands and chores and all the things
07:06 dcook night cait + #koha
07:23 * magnuse waves
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07:25 cait good morning magnuse :)
07:30 magnuse guten morgen cait
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07:37 cait hi petter
07:37 magnuse hiya petter!
07:38 cait bbiab
07:39 petter hei magnus!
07:39 petter hei kathrin!
07:39 petter morning koha
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07:48 reiveune hello
07:51 magnuse bonjour reiveune
07:51 magnuse @wunder boo
07:51 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0°C (8:20 AM CET on December 20, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.30 in 992 hPa (Steady).
07:51 magnuse @wunder oslo
07:51 huginn` magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
07:51 magnuse @wunder oslo, norway
07:51 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Kikut, Oslo, Norway is 0.7°C (8:51 AM CET on December 20, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.36 in 994 hPa (Steady).
07:51 magnuse Kikut? lol!
07:51 magnuse @wunder marseille
07:51 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 9.2°C (8:51 AM CET on December 20, 2013). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
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07:56 alex_a bonjour
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08:14 gaetan_B hello
08:20 cait good morning #koha
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08:50 nlegrand hey #koha o/
08:51 magnuse hiya nlegrand
09:05 cait hi nlegrand
09:05 cait hi gaetan_B - and merry christmas and happy holidays :) (so I don't forget that later)
09:07 gaetan_B merry christmas and happy holidays to you too cait !
09:07 gaetan_B by the way, you speak japanese right ?
09:09 cait hah no
09:09 cait i have studied it for abit in my life
09:09 cait but i forgot a lot
09:09 cait i can still read katakana/hiragana and some kanji - and some phrases/words
09:09 cait but a loooot got lost
09:17 gaetan_B i can imagine
09:18 gaetan_B it just so happens i will spend new year's eve in Japan with some friends ;)
09:18 cait nice :)
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09:28 petter Where in Japan are you going?
09:28 petter I've been there a lot, let me know if you have any questions
09:28 cait #koha++
09:29 cait :)
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10:24 nlegrand when upgrading from 3.2 to 3.4 one should first launch and then or otherwise?
10:25 cait hm
10:25 cait not sure it matters
10:26 cait i think i'd do the database update first, but i can#t remember a recommended sequence
10:26 cait you will have to reindex too
10:31 nlegrand ok! I'll try that. Thank you cait :)
10:36 gaetan_B petter: well it will be a very packed 10 days : landing in osaka - tokyo - zentsuji (for joya no kane) - naoshima - kyoto - and leaving from osaka, i have friends who are taking care of everything though :)
10:39 petter Sounds great! I'm sure you'll have a great time
10:40 petter I was there last new years
10:40 petter its a very nice atmosphere
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10:49 magnuse Oak
10:50 Oak magnuse
10:50 Oak \o/
10:50 magnuse :-)
10:50 Oak :)
10:51 magnuse so did we change our procedures for adding sysprefs and databaseupdates yet?
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12:03 cait magnuse: not yet - i updated the wiki page, no complaints so far
12:04 cait gmcharlt, I think, said that for now you can run the schema update and submit as a separate patch but you don't have to
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12:45 petter anyone know of a synced koha repo which is available through http?
12:45 petter the git port is blocked by our firewall unfortunately
12:46 cait i think there is one, but not sure which is updated regularly
12:46 jcamins petter: used to be available over http, though several people have had problems with that. You can use the github mirror over HTTPS.
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12:47 tcohen morning #koha
12:47 petter the github mirror is 2 months behind
12:47 magnuse ouch?
12:47 jcamins petter: really? What's the point in having the mirror then? (rhetorical question)
12:47 tcohen petter?!
12:47 petter hi tomas!!
12:47 tcohen :-D
12:47 tcohen who pushes to the github mirror?
12:48 magnuse mtj, i think?
12:48 jcamins @later tell mtj Please update the GitHub mirror. It's out of date.
12:48 huginn` jcamins: The operation succeeded.
12:48 jcamins I can update master, maybe.
12:48 magnuse rangi recommended another one...
12:49 jcamins Also, gitorious should support http cloning.
12:49 magnuse this one, i think:
12:49 cait yeah, github doesn't sound rangi :)
12:49 magnuse petter: weren't you using ?
12:50 jcamins magnuse: oh, you're right, that's the one I was using.
12:50 jcamins Nope, looks like gitorious is hugely out of date too.
12:51 jcamins @later tell mtj Do you manage the gitorious mirror, too? If so, could you update it? It's seven months out of date.
12:51 huginn` jcamins: The operation succeeded.
12:51 petter repo.or.cs used to work, but not today
12:52 jcamins Oh, right. I'll work on updating master on github, then.
12:52 magnuse petter: .cs or .cz?
12:52 petter .cz!
12:52 petter sorry
12:53 petter does it work for you?
12:54 magnuse git clone seems to work ok, yes
12:55 petter ok, i'll try again, thanks!
12:55 tcohen @later tell eythian 11284 doesn't seem to apply on 3.14.x, I'll try to fix it and sign
12:55 huginn` tcohen: The operation succeeded.
12:55 petter fatal: not valid: is this a git repository?
12:56 petter thats what I get
12:56 magnuse that's weird!
12:56 jcamins petter: okay, I updated master (only!) on github.
12:56 jcamins I figure that's better than nothing.
12:57 petter great, thanks jcamins!
12:57 cait petter: what command did oyu use?
12:57 petter cait: git clone kohaclone
12:57 petter it worked last week
12:57 petter strange
12:57 cait hm es
12:58 cait i think catalysts repo is probably up to date too
12:58 tcohen what do u need petter?
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12:58 cait but it takes long.... so probably better the github one
12:58 petter I need koha :)
12:59 petter I'm cloning from github now, so all is well
12:59 tcohen you need it to be over http?
12:59 jcamins cait: looks like Catalyst's is way out of date.
12:59 tcohen or is it that ir down?
12:59 tcohen s/ir/is/
12:59 petter the git port is blocked by our firewall
12:59 cait jcamins: oh
13:00 petter so i must use http protocol
13:00 petter git use port 9418
13:00 tcohen what git version do u use?
13:01 tcohen (my server's http is broken for 1.8 onwards)
13:01 petter 1.8.3
13:03 tcohen mine has updated master
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13:19 francharb good morning #all
13:20 oleonard Hi #koha
13:21 tcohen hi oleonard
13:21 tcohen
13:24 oleonard Yeah, one of my favorites tcohen!
13:24 oleonard
13:26 tcohen oh my
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13:47 ebegin morning !
13:47 ebegin @wunder montreal quebec
13:47 huginn` ebegin: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is -8.0°C (8:44 AM EST on December 20, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -9.0°C. Windchill: -17.0°C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1017 hPa (Falling).
13:50 oleonard @wunder 45701
13:50 huginn` oleonard: The current temperature in Whitlind Woods, Athens, Ohio is 11.4°C (8:49 AM EST on December 20, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising).
13:50 oleonard Strangely warm here
14:05 ebegin a quick question (because I doubt that this is possible).
14:05 barton @wunder 40218
14:05 huginn` barton: The current temperature in Towne Orchard subdivision of the Highlands, Louisville, Kentucky is 12.0°C (9:05 AM EST on December 20, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014 hPa (Rising). Flood Watch in effect from Saturday afternoon through Sunday afternoon...
14:06 barton Owen: looks like you're going to get more of the same for a few hours.
14:06 ebegin Is there a way to hide a record from the Z39.50 server but not from the OPAC search ?
14:06 ebegin I know the opposite is possible
14:06 jcamins ebegin: no. In fact, there is no way to hide a record via Z39.50.
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14:08 jenkins_koha Starting build #361 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
14:08 ebegin jcamins, that's what I though. the only way i can think of would be to have 2 zebras instances, one for the Z39, the other for the OPAC.. not optimal though
14:08 magnuse sounds like fun ;-)
14:08 jcamins ebegin: you'd need a custom indexer, too.
14:14 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #361: FAILURE in 7 min 47 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/361/
14:14 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 9046: FIX wrong test on an arrayref instead of an array
14:14 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 9046: Followup FIX perl v.10 raises an error if itemnumbers if undefined
14:14 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 9531: Make SIP2 message terminator configurable via SIPconfig.xml
14:14 jenkins_koha * Janusz Kaczmarek: Bug 10331 - Little errors in (punctuation)
14:14 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10564 - use OPACURLOpenInNewWindow in UNIMARCslim2OPACResults.xsl
14:14 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10718: fix items with no checkouts report
14:14 huginn` Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9046 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Items are not exported with the tools/
14:14 ebegin jcamins, true
14:14 huginn` Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9531 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Make SIP2 message terminator configurable via SIPconfig.xml
14:14 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10331 trivial, P5 - low, ---, januszop, Pushed to Stable , Little errors in (punctuation)
14:15 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10564 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , use OPACURLOpenInNewWindow in UNIMARCslim2OPACResults.xsl
14:15 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10718 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , items with no checkouts report does not work
14:23 khall yep, that's my fault : \
14:24 Dyrcona Did anyone here get an email from a Mr. Ogbodo asking about medical records storage?
14:25 Dyrcona In Evergreen, we got an email on our commits list of all places from this person.
14:25 mr_ogbodo hi Dyrcona :-)
14:25 Dyrcona :P
14:26 khall are there any current or past rmaints in the house? I could use some advice
14:26 ebegin kiddin, of course
14:26 Dyrcona of course.
14:26 jcamins khall: I'm here.
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14:26 Dyrcona I guess it is still too early (late?) for rangi to be on.
14:26 jcamins Dyrcona: wow, what a peculiar message.
14:27 jcamins Dyrcona: rangi is usually around less during the weekend.
14:27 Dyrcona jcamins: Yeah, it reads like a Nigerian 419 scam but I think the request is sincere.
14:27 Dyrcona Oh, right. It is Saturday already.
14:27 oleonard Dyrcona: And usually he's not around for another few hours
14:27 francharb yep new zealand is in the future
14:28 Dyrcona francharb: That should be a slogan.
14:28 Dyrcona :)
14:28 francharb :)
14:28 Dyrcona It was nothing important.
14:28 oleonard And not a depressing distopian future like we're building here in the US either
14:29 Dyrcona I just switched my laptop's background picture to a lovely photo of the ANZAC Pine on Te Mata in Hawkes' Bay.
14:30 cait Dyrcona: you could leave him a later :)
14:30 cait @later tell Dyrcona boo!
14:30 huginn` cait: The operation succeeded.
14:30 Dyrcona Yeah.
14:30 Dyrcona We have the same feature in #evergreen on freenode.
14:30 cait ah was not sure,b ut makes sense :)
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14:37 jenkins_koha Starting build #362 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: FAILURE -- last SUCCESS #360 20 days ago)
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15:17 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #362: NOW UNSTABLE in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/362/
15:17 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Revert "Bug 9046: FIX wrong test on an arrayref instead of an array"
15:17 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Revert "Bug 9046: Followup FIX perl v.10 raises an error if itemnumbers if undefined"
15:17 huginn` Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9046 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Items are not exported with the tools/
15:19 francharb hey
15:19 francharb ebegin, asks if the passwords in the db are salted?
15:20 cait hm not sure, but information about the passwords should be on a bug
15:20 cait sec
15:20 cait francharb: for 3.14 the way we encrypt passwords changed
15:21 cait bug 9611
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15:21 huginn` Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9611 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, RESOLVED FIXED, Changing the password hashing algorithm from MD5 to more secure Bcrypt
15:21 francharb cait, :)
15:21 francharb thanks!!
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15:48 drojf hi #koha
15:48 druthb drojf!
15:48 drojf druthb!
15:48 cait drojf! druthb!
15:49 * drojf looks for skittles. does not find any
15:49 drojf cait!
15:49 * druthb offers drojf some skittles.
15:49 druthb cait!
15:49 cait i strted to feel ignored over skittles... :)
15:50 * druthb offers cait some, too
15:50 cait n thanks, too many christmas treats at work today :)
15:51 oleonard Too few Christmas treats at work today!
15:51 druthb hmpf.
15:51 oleonard I had to bring some in myself but they're gone now
15:51 druthb One of my coworkers made red-velvet-cake *twinkies* and brought them in today.  Teh Yummy
15:52 cait we had lots of christmas cookies, chocolates, crackers...
15:54 Dyrcona druthb: "Red-velvet cake twinkies..." I gained a kilo just reading that. :)
15:54 druthb inorite?  They were *amazing*.  I just had one.
15:58 * drojf has not even had breakfast and leaves the #koha christmas treat frenzy
16:04 gmcharlt @wunder 98155
16:04 huginn` gmcharlt: The current temperature in Sheridan Beach, Lake Forest Park, Washington is 0.6°C (8:04 AM PST on December 20, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1015 hPa (Falling). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 10 am PST this morning...
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16:04 gmcharlt snow
16:04 gmcharlt !
16:06 ebegin @wunder montreal quebec
16:06 huginn` ebegin: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is -9.0°C (10:07 AM EST on December 20, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -10.0°C. Windchill: -19.0°C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
16:06 ebegin snow... as usual ;)
16:26 cait ashimema++
16:33 reiveune bye
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16:33 cait bye all :)
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17:34 gaetan_B bye !
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18:09 cait bug 11410
18:09 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11410 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Cataloging search finds no results for searches with ampersands
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18:16 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
18:16 huginn` tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 27.1°C (3:15 PM ART on December 20, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
18:17 tcohen hi cait
18:20 jcamins Red-velvet cake twinkies? Wow.
18:21 tcohen we just got our wildcard certificate set in front of our instances' intranet!
18:21 tcohen nginx++
18:21 jcamins tcohen: woohoo!
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18:59 tcohen bye #koha, have a nice weekend
19:00 jenkins_koha Starting build #147 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #144 10 days ago)
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19:20 francharb does anyone know if 3.14 has new system preferences for renewals?
19:20 francharb I have 2 install
19:20 francharb One where renewals works
19:20 francharb one where it doesnt
19:20 francharb i checked circulation rules
19:20 francharb syspref
19:21 francharb and I cant find why the issue date is not updated by renewals...
19:21 francharb arrrgh
19:21 jcamins francharb: it's set to renew based on current day rather than due date?
19:22 francharb I cheked
19:22 francharb with both value
19:22 francharb but the due date stays the same
19:22 jcamins Ummm... and renewal period is set?
19:22 francharb by the way, if I set up a due date manually, it works
19:23 francharb jcamins, yes, I have a period set in the circulation matrice
19:23 jcamins francharb: I'm out of ideas, then. :(
19:23 francharb ok, thanks!
19:23 francharb I'm going to check the logs
19:24 francharb ;)
19:28 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #147: STILL UNSTABLE in 29 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_3.12.x/147/
19:41 francharb jcamins, sorry
19:41 francharb my mistake
19:42 francharb I change the renewal period on the default rule
19:42 francharb not on the library specific rule
19:42 francharb which applies here
19:42 francharb ahah
19:43 francharb thanks for the help anyway
19:43 francharb ;)
19:43 jcamins Oops.
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20:07 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
20:07 mtompset gmcharlt: What is your suggestion for patching the issue that Sophie found with bug 10584?
20:07 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10584 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , Hide OPAC bibilo details if all items are hidden.
20:08 mtompset on the same bug, or a follow-up?
20:10 mtompset Anyone, when a bug is found with something already pushed to master or stable, etc. Do you fix it on the bug it is related to, or start a new one?
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20:12 mtompset Oops... VM blip.
20:12 mtompset I guess it is Holiday time for most now. Okay. :)
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20:17 oleonard mtompset: I think gmcharlt usually prefers a new bug if the status of the original bug is "pushed"
20:17 mtompset Greetings, oleonard. Nice to see someone else still around. :)
20:17 mtompset Merry Christmas, if I don't get to see you later. :)
20:18 oleonard For another hour anyway, then holiday vacation.
20:33 gmcharlt mtompset: oleonard: I prefer that new bugs be opened
20:34 mtompset Ah, you were right, and I got it directly from the source. YAY! Working on it. :)
20:35 cait oleonard: have a nice holiday vacation :)
20:35 cait and happy holidays with your family!
20:35 oleonard Thanks cait. Will you spend the holiday with your family?
20:35 cait yes :)
20:35 cait going to visit my brother and my dad will join us
20:36 cait haven't seen my little nephew in a while
20:36 mtompset I'm glad I have my mother-in-law visiting. She's my only living parent left.
20:37 * druthb puts a skittle in her slingshot, eyes mtompset warily.
20:38 * mtompset pulls out a sonic screwdriver and snaps the sling.
20:38 cait that's cheating
20:39 cait and you are not the doctor, so yo udon't get a sonic screwdriver
20:39 * druthb puts the slingshot away, pulls out her bazooka.
20:41 francharb ahah
20:43 mtompset fine... sonic pen... The nanny in the "Partners in Crime" episode had one. :P
20:44 jcamins khall: I have a question for you about the sound customization RFC, if you have a moment. I don't actually have an opinion, so I see no point in making the bug longer.
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21:04 mtompset Though, I thought the laser screwdriver by the Master was cool.
21:08 oleonard laser screwdriver is to sonic screwdriver as blaster is to light saber
21:09 jcamins An inelegant weapon from a less civilized age?
21:09 druthb damn..jcamins beat me to it.
21:09 oleonard Exactly
21:09 druthb Gotta watch those nerdy librarian types…have to get up early to beat 'em.
21:11 oleonard Bye #koha. Have a great holiday everyone.
21:12 cait you too :)
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21:16 mtompset But the laser screwdriver has more power *grunt grunt grunt*
21:16 mtompset I'm sure it would be Tim Allen's tool of choice. ;)
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21:16 * mtompset hopes he got the references right.
21:16 druthb yup.  you did.
21:17 pianohacker I did what? :(
21:17 druthb not you, pianohacker.  :)
21:17 mtompset Nothing, pianohacker. I was worried I got the name of Tim the Tool man wrong.
21:17 mtompset Nope...
21:17 mtompset tim Taylo.
21:18 mtompset taylor.
21:18 mtompset (call the wild clips from Home Improvement)
21:19 mtompset Tim Allen is the actor's name, I believe.
21:19 druthb correct
21:19 jcamins pianohacker: brought a blaster to a sonic screwdriver fight?
21:20 mtompset sorry, but 400 years for a sonic screw driver to calculate how to blow away a door?
21:20 Han I shot first, okay?
21:20 pianohacker hah!
21:20 pianohacker ahh, fridays
21:21 jcamins Friday before a holiday, too.
21:21 druthb …yup.  And I'm headed out for mine.  off work all next week.  Ciao!
21:21 jcamins Lucky.
21:21 pianohacker mtompset: Hey, they're used to making locks go click or sparky
21:21 jcamins No rest for the wicked, I guess.
21:21 pianohacker druthb qualifies, I suppose
21:22 ebegin Is there a way to set a field indicator in perl (other than creating a new field and copying all subfields) ?
21:22 pianohacker mtompset: we're talking multidimensional spectral analysis, I know that math makes my head hurt
21:22 pianohacker ebegin: there should be an indicator method on MARC::Field
21:22 ebegin pianohacker, this is a get, not a set..
21:23 jcamins ebegin: $field->set_indicator($indno, $val)?
21:23 pianohacker thar we go
21:23 mtompset[…]icator%28indno%29
21:24 mtompset Oops... not quite right.
21:24 ebegin Oh, I was on v MARC::Field v2.0.2
21:24 pianohacker ebegin: Try perldoc MARC::Field
21:24 mtompset[…]icator%28indno%29
21:25 pianohacker that URL looks familiar somehow
21:27 jcamins ebegin: oh, on older versions use $field->update(ind1 => '2')
21:28 ebegin jcamins, thanks for pointing that out
21:29 ebegin Je vais me coucher moins fou ce soir ;)
21:30 mtompset ebegin: Still valid for 2.0.2[…]icator%28indno%29
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22:30 mtompset Let the holiday season, and long period of low channel activity begin. ;) Merry Christmas everyone.
22:31 mtompset Have a great holiday season, #koha.
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22:47 francharb bye all
22:54 jenkins_koha Starting build #1564 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1547 10 days ago)
22:58 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11383: Add help file for MARC modification templates <[…]544cf4a396bad0c43> / Bug 11166: make library filter in funds administration page more precise <[…]6933c96e42ea4e768>
23:05 jenkins_koha Starting build #271 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #264 10 days ago)
23:14 rambutan hee haw! Looks like I got my TS manager and her trainee converted permanently to Linux!
23:28 cait TS?
23:34 gmcharlt technical services
23:49 cait thx gmcharlt
23:56 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #271: STILL UNSTABLE in 51 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/271/
23:56 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 11166: make library filter in funds administration page more precise
23:56 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 11383: Add help file for MARC modification templates
23:56 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11166 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , branch filter in budgets admin uses pattern match  instead of equals
23:56 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11383 minor, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Master , There is no help page for the marc modification templates tool

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