IRC log for #koha, 2013-10-16

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01:48 rambuton cait: where is everybody going to go eat this evening?
01:48 cait not sure
01:49 cait we haven't discussed that yet
01:49 rambuton 'k
01:56 * dcook should make himself semi-presentable
01:56 dcook I've been up for...15 hours and running on 4 hours of sleep?
01:56 * dcook apologizes in advance if he makes zero sense tonight....or even really for the rest of the conference :p
02:04 rambuton Think several of us will be sub-par.
02:04 wizzyrea is gmcharlt there yet?
02:05 rambuton not that I'm aware of. He's pretty good about tweeting his presence.
02:05 wizzyrea true enough.
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02:15 mtompset Greetings, tcohen oleonard rambuton dcook.
02:15 oleonard Hi mtompset
02:15 mtompset How goes the conference thus far?
02:15 oleonard No conferencing yet, just socializing
02:15 tcohen :-D
02:16 oleonard Conference start in 14 hours or so
02:16 rambuton magandang gabi mtompset
02:17 * oleonard finds a listing for a nearby Peruvian restaurant
02:17 wizzyrea peruvian!
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02:17 mtompset Magandang gabi din po sa iyo, rambuton. :)
02:18 mtompset Greetings, ebegin.
02:19 tcohen there's a mexican one
02:19 oleonard Looks like some things might be closing at 9. That doesn't give us much time
02:20 * wizzyrea can't believe that things actually close at 9 in *reno*
02:20 oleonard Yeah I find that weird too, but there is so much stuff inside the hotel I guess people always have options
02:21 jcamins wizzyrea: really? Reno seemed like a has-been when I looked it up.
02:21 rambuton what about the purple parrot?
02:21 wizzyrea the casinos are probably 24/7 - so I'm surprised that more restaurants aren't open later.
02:22 wizzyrea i haven't been to reno in ages.
02:23 oleonard wizzyrea: You used to pop over for a quick divorce once in a while?
02:23 wizzyrea kek.
02:24 wizzyrea what a pleasure a late afternoon oleonard.
02:24 oleonard Hmmm... Mexican/Salvadoran?
02:25 oleonard Late afternoon oleonard, but not productive oleonard ;)
02:25 wizzyrea[…]tm_medium=twitter
02:27 oleonard "video unavailable" for some reason
02:27 wizzyrea oh no!
02:28 wizzyrea[…]e=player_embedded
02:29 wizzyrea[…]e=player_embedded
02:29 wizzyrea 2nd probably better for those who don't like dubstep :P
02:29 wizzyrea that or the wifi you are on blocks video from youtube.
02:33 mtompset wizzyrea: You are assuming people leave the casinos to eat. Why would they do that?
02:36 wizzyrea guilty conscience?
02:36 wizzyrea idk.
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02:56 mtompset Well, I am going. Have a great day, #koha.
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04:33 cait-m some of us are sitting in the lobby now
04:35 rambuton And some of us are in bed already
04:36 cait-m hm lounge not lobby i guess
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06:23 * magnuse waves
06:23 * cait waves back
06:23 magnuse yay!
06:23 magnuse having fun?
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06:24 cait yeah :)
06:24 magnuse w00t!
06:24 magnuse @wunder reno, nv
06:24 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in MidTown, Reno, Nevada is 4.4°C (11:15 PM PDT on October 15, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: -8.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.20 in 1022 hPa (Falling).
06:24 magnuse @wunder boo
06:24 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 2.0°C (8:00 AM CEST on October 16, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Falling).
06:25 magnuse brrr
06:25 magnuse @wunder marseille
06:25 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille / Marignane, France is 15.0°C (8:00 AM CEST on October 16, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Falling).
06:25 magnuse @wunder cordoba, argentina
06:25 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Cordoba Aerodrome, Argentina is 16.0°C (3:00 AM ART on October 16, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013 hPa (Falling).
06:29 magnuse cait: if you see rangi, tell him is 404 again
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06:41 reiveune hello
06:41 magnuse bonjour reiveune
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06:46 magnuse um, does the language chooser not display with the new bootstrap theme?
06:46 gmcharlt magnuse: it should -- bgkriegel had tried it and noted that one must keep scrolling down
06:46 magnuse ah, thanks gmcharlt
06:48 magnuse that is not quite ideal, though
06:48 gmcharlt (though two people running into this probably indicates that it should be moved)
06:48 magnuse yeah, i think so too...
06:49 magnuse oops, i get an error when i try to actually change the language: Template process failed: file error - cssinclude: not found at /home/magnus/kohahead/C4/ line 132.
06:49 magnuse that might what was fixed by the very last patch pushed? not sure...
06:50 gmcharlt magnuse: I doubt it
06:50 magnuse yeah, the installation is up to date
06:51 magnuse it's the one that is updated automatically every night, so i thought maybe something had been pushed after the last pull
06:52 magnuse it works with the prog theme
06:52 magnuse i'll report a bug
06:53 magnuse or two
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06:54 gmcharlt magnuse: if it's handy, could you paste the first 10 lines or so of any of the translated bootstrap template files?
06:55 magnuse sure
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06:56 samueld hi everybody
06:57 magnuse gmcharlt: hm, koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/bootstrap/nb-NO/ is empty, perhaps the translate process failed...
07:01 magnuse ah, it can't find nb-NO-opac-bootstrap.po of course
07:03 gmcharlt easily worked around
07:03 gmcharlt (at least for testing purposes)
07:03 gmcharlt samueld: I've sent you an email regarding where to upload the VM images
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07:04 gmcharlt and now, to bed
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07:08 gaetan_B hello
07:08 wahanui salut, gaetan_B
07:13 samueld gmcharlt: ok, i've read your mail
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07:20 magnuse for the record: the error i got when i changed the language went away after i downloaded the bootstrap .po file from pootle, fixed some errors in it and installed the language again. yay!
07:21 magnuse the hidden language chooser is now Bug 11057
07:21 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11057 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Bootstrap theme: Don't hide language chooser below the fold
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07:40 kivilahtio Any idea how the SIP test cases are meant to be ran?
07:40 kivilahtio They depend on many libraries which are in various directories
07:41 kivilahtio C4/SIP/t/08circulation.t   depends on ./ and ../Sip/Constants
07:42 kivilahtio I could add a "use lib()" directive to the test cases bu I wonder why they haven't been added there yet?
07:44 magnuse kivilahtio: have you seen C4/SIP/t/README ?
07:46 magnuse might be some hints in there
07:46 magnuse but it also looks like those tests have not been touched in a while
07:49 kivilahtio magnuse: read the README and test.txt
07:49 kivilahtio no help regarding the dependencies
07:49 kivilahtio I will just add the use lib() directive and then get f'd up trying to push those changes to the master :)
07:50 magnuse okelydokely
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10:20 drojf hi #koha
10:34 magnuse moin drojf
10:49 drojf hei magnuse
11:01 kivilahtio päivää drojf
11:01 kivilahtio damn I beat SIP2 issues!
11:01 kivilahtio SIP2 is fun ;)
11:18 * magnuse starts to worry about kivilahtio's sanity ;-)
11:26 drojf hi kivilahtio
11:26 drojf yes, we have seen people go mad over SIP2 before...
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11:57 kivilahtio drojf: I almost did, but then again, I realized some stuff and documented and applied it to bug 7376
11:57 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7376 critical, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Failed QA , Transfer limits should be checked at check-in
11:57 kivilahtio drojf: SIP2 is only bad if you don't have proper documentation about how it works in well digestable format
11:58 kivilahtio luckily I had this
11:58 kivilahtio[…]min:sip_support&s[]=sip2
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12:23 kivilahtio Our librarian is complaining that all holds for all libraries are displayed in the holds list. Not sure which hold list she means.
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12:23 kivilahtio oddity odd
12:23 kivilahtio According to the Koha manual this shouldn't be true, but I guess I need to check it out
12:24 kivilahtio speaking of manuals
12:24 kivilahtio where do I commit my documentation changes I want to be pushed to the Koha manual regarding bugs 7376, 11020, 11024, 10993
12:26 kivilahtio And I have a load of bugs that need signing off, any suggestions who could help with that? Could we exchange sign off's?
12:27 kivilahtio I presume the sign-offee needs to be from a different organisation than I am?
12:32 bgkriegel kivilahtio: yes. What bugs you need? And for documentation write to Nicole Engard (nengard)
12:41 bgkriegel magnuse?
12:41 wahanui magnuse is, like, a Norwegian giant
13:00 kivilahtio bgkriegel: 11020, 11024, 10993
13:00 kivilahtio regarding UseBranchTransferLimits
13:00 kivilahtio and I guess 7376
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13:03 magnuse kivilahtio: the manual is a git repo - you can clone it and send patches to nengard or to the documentation list
13:04 magnuse kivilahtio:[…]g_the_Koha_Manual
13:05 magnuse bgkriegel?
13:05 wahanui somebody said bgkriegel was on a signoff spree
13:05 magnuse yay!
13:07 kivilahtio great going!
13:07 jcamins Here's something I can't figure out. My carry-on luggage can't measure more than 115cm total linear length or weigh more than 40kg.
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13:07 kivilahtio jcamins: when you calculate width + height + depth =  total linear length
13:07 jcamins Sorry, 18kg.
13:07 jcamins wtf could I put in such a small suitcase that weighs 18kg?
13:07 jcamins 40lbs.
13:08 magnuse guns?
13:08 kivilahtio jcamins: you could chop a body
13:08 kivilahtio gold?
13:08 kivilahtio booze
13:09 jcamins Yeah, that's all I could think of, too.
13:09 jcamins Things that aren't permitted on airplanes.
13:10 jcamins Liquids or things that could be used as bludgeons.
13:11 magnuse well, it is a max weight? you dont *have* to reach that weight to carry it on board, i think? ;-)
13:12 jcamins Of course.
13:13 jcamins And I won't. But that doesn't make it any less perplexing, does it?
13:13 magnuse nope :-)
13:14 magnuse jcamins: you are flying to reno tomorrow?
13:15 kivilahtio phpmysqladmin died... noo , god nooo
13:15 jcamins Yeah.
13:15 jcamins I just checked in.
13:15 magnuse yay
13:16 kivilahtio bad cookie bad
13:16 kivilahtio Everybody's flying to Reno ;(
13:16 magnuse not me!
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13:16 kivilahtio me no fly to Reno, me just happy coding
13:16 kivilahtio code all day long
13:17 kivilahtio listen to co-worker bitching
13:17 kivilahtio me just code all day long :)
13:17 rambuten @seen cait
13:17 huginn rambuten: cait was last seen in #koha 6 hours, 53 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: <cait> yeah :)
13:17 kivilahtio magnuse: The good thing is that if a volcano erupts and all the Koha devs are in Reno, we can take over Europe
13:18 magnuse moahahaha
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13:19 JesseM Hello
13:19 rambuten @seen gmcharlt
13:19 huginn rambuten: gmcharlt was last seen in #koha 6 hours, 15 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: <gmcharlt> and now, to bed
13:19 gmcharlt and now, out of bed
13:20 rambuten @seen rangi
13:20 huginn rambuten: rangi was last seen in #koha 1 day, 10 hours, 54 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <rangi> yay eythian !
13:20 rambuten morning gmcharlt
13:22 magnuse kia ora gmcharlt
13:22 gmcharlt hi, rambuten and magnuse
13:22 magnuse ready to do an awesome keynote? :-)
13:28 gmcharlt now that I've finished my slides, yes :)
13:29 magnuse yay!
13:29 magnuse any news on the conf being video'ed?
13:30 gmcharlt magnuse: I don't know
13:31 magnuse we'll just have to wait and see, then :-)
13:32 gmcharlt or wait and not see, but hopefully it won't come to that
13:33 magnuse exactly
13:34 druthb @wunder 77098
13:34 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 20.0°C (8:34 AM CDT on October 16, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013 hPa (Falling).
13:34 druthb @wunder reno, nv
13:34 huginn druthb: The current temperature in MidTown, Reno, Nevada is -0.3°C (6:30 AM PDT on October 16, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: -10.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.20 in 1023 hPa (Rising).
13:35 magnuse @wunder boo
13:35 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0°C (3:20 PM CEST on October 16, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Falling).
13:36 * magnuse wanders off to make dinner
13:38 jcamins I'm a little perplexed how I'm going to transport all the cookies.
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13:40 oleonard Hi #koha
13:40 rambuten leave all the clothes and shoes at home
13:40 rambuten morning oleonard
13:41 jcamins rambuten: yeah, I might have to.
13:41 jcamins Wow, everyone's up early. Isn't it 6:40 now?
13:41 rambuten yep
13:42 rambuten I'm out to forage for sustenance
13:43 oleonard jcamins: My internal clock woke me up at 3, so I'm just lucky I haven't been up since then
13:44 jcamins oleonard: in that case, well done!
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14:19 cait good morning #koha
14:25 kivilahtio good morning cait
14:25 kivilahtio cait: any idea how to localize the perl-code? I have a branch picker, which has a custom value, "Show requests from all branches". This String is set in Perl-code, but I would like to have it translateable.
14:26 jcamins kivilahtio: right now that can't be done.
14:26 kivilahtio jcamins: fuuuuu
14:26 cait there is a bug for that
14:26 cait look in bugzilla
14:26 kivilahtio jcamins: maybe it is time for a localization script rebuilding?
14:26 cait localize scripts or similar
14:26 jcamins There's a patch to make it possible, but the it's pretty old.
14:27 kivilahtio jcamins: wow, ok, I'll try to get over it by substituting the stirng from the templates
14:28 kivilahtio actualyl it cant be substituted, because even the templates don't use localizable tags but this "script"
14:28 jcamins kivilahtio: it should be possible.
14:28 jcamins It's in JS, yes?
14:29 kivilahtio jcamins: wait I think I can localize it
14:29 kivilahtio <option value="[% branchloo.branchcode %]" selected="selected">[% branchloo.branchname %]</option>
14:29 kivilahtio just change this   >[% branchloo.branchname %]</   to plain text
14:29 jcamins Yeah.
14:29 kivilahtio the localizer should pick it
14:30 jcamins The all option needn't be generated in the same way, since it will always be present.
14:30 jcamins Or should always be present.
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14:37 kivilahtio jcamins: is this OK?
14:37 kivilahtio <select name="branchLimiter" size="1" id="branchLimiter">
14:37 kivilahtio [%- FOREACH branchloo IN branchloop %]
14:37 kivilahtio <option value="[% branchloo.branchcode %]"
14:37 kivilahtio [% IF ( branchloo.selected ) -%]
14:37 kivilahtio selected="selected"
14:37 kivilahtio [%- END -%]
14:37 kivilahtio >
14:37 kivilahtio [% IF ( branchloo.branchcode ) == '_ShowAll' -%]
14:37 kivilahtio Show all requests
14:37 kivilahtio [%- ELSE -%]
14:37 kivilahtio [% branchloo.branchname %]
14:37 kivilahtio [%- END -%]
14:37 kivilahtio </option>
14:37 kivilahtio [%- END %]
14:37 kivilahtio </select>
14:37 kivilahtio .
14:38 jcamins Yikes. For future reference, we have a pastebin at
14:38 kivilahtio Can "Show all requests" be localized?
14:38 kivilahtio jcamins: yeah, I know, but it is a pain to use it
14:38 jcamins It is, but I am a little doubtful about the need for that.
14:38 kivilahtio jcamins: it's just 10 rows :)
14:38 kivilahtio jcamins: any better suggestions?
14:38 jcamins I would just write: <option value="_ShowAll">Show all requests</option> before the loop.
14:39 kivilahtio jcamins: the option can be selected as well
14:39 jcamins So put an if around it.
14:40 jcamins Also, you can't have that if inside the option tag.
14:40 jcamins It has to be [% IF %]<option ...>[% ELSE %]<option ...>[% END %]
14:40 kivilahtio jcamins: ok ok, so a huge self replicating if-blob it is then
14:40 kivilahtio brb
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15:56 reiveune bye
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16:13 oleonard Conference begins! gmcharlt is doing the keynote now
16:20 dbs \o/ -- following along via IRC :)
16:21 rangi you got a shout out dbs
16:22 rangi in the keynote, for the work
16:22 jeff dbs++
16:23 dbs awww
16:23 dbs just ignore that whole "and dbs broke the build" thing :)
16:23 rangi[…]90511754188713984
16:24 dbs the pedant in me must note that it's actually RDFa, not microdata - heh
16:24 rangi :-)
16:24 dbs course reserves! nice
16:24 rangi send a patch to galens slides :-)
16:24 oleonard Yeah, this keynote needs more heckling!
16:25 rangi hehe
16:29 dcook lol
16:31 rangi i usually heckle myself when im presenting, if you cant beat them, join them :)
16:44 dcook All the fines!
16:51 rambuten jenkins++
16:52 blou greetings
16:53 blou I got a naive question on Invoices.  (see[…]i/Handling_Prices for my bedtime readings)
16:54 blou Is the rest of the world calculating shipment AFTER the tax, or I'm just not understanding some preference?
16:55 blou Here we do (Price + shipment) * gst, but a library pointed out the invoice is calculated (Price*gst)+shipment
16:55 blou wahahui, please answer me!  :)
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16:56 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
16:57 blou greeting mtompset
16:57 dcook Sorry, blou, no idea. We don't have many libraries using acquisitions, I think.
16:57 mtompset Greetings, blou dcook.
16:58 oleonard gmcharlt gives a well-timed keynote :)
16:58 blou dcook: thanks.  Ok, I thought that was "standard".  Might explain why only one of our library raised the issue
16:58 oleonard gmcharlt++
16:58 rangi gmcharlt++
16:59 rangi <-- that working?
16:59 blou beside oleonard twitter's, any way to follow the keynote?  :)
17:00 oleonard Others are using the #kohacon13 hashtag too, but no full transcriptions yet
17:00 dcook gmcharlt++
17:00 dcook I'm not sure what the plan with the video is either
17:01 oleonard Video will be available after the conference I believe
17:01 blou cool
17:01 oleonard[…]/kohacon13-galen/
17:01 dcook Hehe. It's fun to be able to look around the room and see who is still at their computers :p
17:02 blou I guess I'll have harder time getting answers to my questions until next week :)
17:02 * jcamins suspects oleonard, dcook, and rangi.
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17:03 rambuten me 2
17:05 dcook jcamins: They were both sitting in front of me, yes
17:05 dcook Serious lack of power points in this room...
17:05 * dcook is thinking that getting a powerboard/extension cord might be in the works, especially if this room is used for the hackfest as well.
17:05 dcook Especially since this laptop cord is the shortest cord in the world
17:07 gaetan_B bye !
17:08 * magnuse waves to the kohaconfers
17:08 dcook hey ya magnuse!
17:08 jcamins I'm glad my laptop's battery is good, but I guess that means I'll have to stop running it with CPU usage pegged at 400% all the time.
17:12 rambuten jcamins: my netbook is really bad on the 3 cell battery, I pretty much went to 0 during gmcharlt's presentation
17:12 rambuten I/it
17:14 dcook jcamins: 400%?
17:14 wahanui 4
17:14 dcook rambuten: Ouch. Yeah, I was just asking cait how people were managing without being plugged in
17:15 rambuten There's a spare outlet back in the corner where I am
17:16 druthb My MacBook really sips at the power; it'll run a good while, if I'm careful.
17:16 rambuten I'm gonna have to break down and buy a tablet
17:17 jcamins dcook: yeah, I have three VMs running with close to 100% CPU usage, then an indexing process using most of the rest of the CPU, and web browser and Calibre basically use up the rest.
17:18 dcook rambuten: Ahh, there you are. That's where I originally thought of sitting as I thought all the outlets on the left side of the room were used. I think there are some spares here too. Also not near the tables though really...I see one extension cord already.
17:18 dcook jcamins: I could see that chewing through some power
17:19 jcamins dcook: I would think. I've kept it plugged in for this, though.
17:20 mtompset "Galen asked us to keep gratitude in our minds." -- Nice point.
17:20 dcook Anyone else having troubles hearing presentations?
17:20 mtompset blou: Quite likely, unless I happen to know the answer. However, I'm more of a coder type than a librarian type.
17:21 dcook I might just be deaf but the volume seems a bit low..
17:21 rambuten concur
17:23 gmcharlt there is a power strip in the front row where I'm sitting -- join me if your battery is low! ;)
17:23 jcamins I should check if I have a grounded splitter.
17:24 jcamins I suspect I do not.
17:24 jcamins But I'll check.
17:24 * druthb would join gmcharlt just to be joining gmcharlt, not for the watts.
17:24 gmcharlt :)
17:24 druthb I have a short-corded power strip that i'm brininging.  Three ports, plus two USB charge ports.
17:24 blou mtompset: invoices?
17:25 jcamins Nope.
17:25 mtompset Sadly, I know nothing of invoices.
17:25 jcamins Hey, shouldn't nengard have her airport hero thing?
17:25 gmcharlt druthb: I have something similar as well, though it has no cord (it's a wall wart)
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17:26 blou I'll find someone... after kohacon
17:26 druthb Mine's about a foot of cord.
17:26 blou wahahui?  kohacon schedule :)
17:26 * blou wishes he was there
17:27 * magnuse too
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17:28 dcook gmcharlt: Thanks for the head's up. I'll keep that in mind. Did you bring it or is a perk of being in the front?
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17:29 druthb larryb!
17:29 gmcharlt dcook: just where they set one up
17:29 larryb heya druthb
17:30 rambuten I can tell my librarians are going to be asking me lots of questions later
17:34 oleonard[…]ibuted-whirlwinds
17:34 oleonard ^keynote slides
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17:51 oleonard Ugh. We seem to be getting smoke from the casino floor in here :P
17:52 jcamins oleonard: smoke?
17:52 larryb yeah, gamblers smoke. a lot
17:52 oleonard From the smokers on the slot machines
17:53 jcamins Oh, cigarette smoke.
17:53 jcamins _Yuck_.
17:53 mtompset I suppose I should work on a presentation I'm giving October 21. Have a great day, #koha.
17:53 gmcharlt it's a pity that sprinklers cannot be aimed
17:53 dcook hehe
17:53 larryb I used to smoke, and walking through the casino floor is enough to get to me. I can only imagine what the non-smokers are going through.
17:53 dcook Yeah...I was rather stunned that smoking was allowed inside. I haven't been in America in a while...
17:54 jcamins By the time I moved to New York, smoking had been banned.
17:54 larryb normally it is not dcook , but this is a casino
17:54 oleonard A lot of places are getting better about it, but not apparently Reno.
17:54 rambuten I've been bothered by the smoke ever since I got here, even in my room
17:54 gmcharlt rambuten: :( was your room supposed to be nonsmoking?
17:55 gmcharlt if so, might be worth bugging the hotel about it
17:55 dcook I haven't noticed any smoke smell in my room. The ventilation on the floor wasn't too bad either.
17:55 jcamins Yeah, I was just contemplating the question of how many times I will be rejecting my room.
17:55 dcook Maybe my sense of smell isn't very keen though
17:55 oleonard Mine is fine, FWIW.
17:55 larryb the guest rooms are better than anywhere else in the hotel
17:55 gmcharlt my room is OK as well
17:55 larryb I don't notice any smell in my room.
17:56 rambuten jcamins: I wouldn't presume room changes will result in improvements necessarily
17:56 larryb I think most of the rooms are non-smoking, but the casino floor is another world.
17:56 jcamins rambuten: eventually it will result in improvement.
17:57 rambuten gmcharlt: They originally put me in a smoking room by mistake, but on my request switched me to a ns room
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17:57 rambuten all of the 18th floor is smoking
17:57 gmcharlt and failed, I gather :(
17:59 rambuten my current room on the 10th floor is technicallhy ns, and much better that the first room
18:00 oleonard nengard is up now with a talk on Koha Training
18:06 jcamins Did a lot of Washoe County staff come to the conference?
18:06 * dcook has no idea
18:09 gmcharlt jcamins: something like five or six, I think -- mostly working on the conference, of course
18:10 gmcharlt WashoeCounty++
18:11 jcamins I wonder if they get credit for it as an in-service.
18:16 rambuten druthb: n's talking about you!
18:16 oleonard Positively, of course :)
18:16 druthb !
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18:16 druthb nkeenr?
18:17 oleonard nengard
18:17 druthb oooh.
18:17 druthb she better be saying nice things!  :P
18:17 rambuten your "ah ha!" training style
18:17 druthb :)
18:21 * druthb is still kind of thunderstruck that the "teach for the ah-hah!" made such an impact on her.
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18:23 gmcharlt nengard++
18:23 tcohen nengard++
18:25 nengard :)
18:25 rambuten I'm not going to say anything
18:26 * druthb makes squinty eyes at rambuten
18:26 oleonard Now a talk on "One Library's Koha Migration Experience" from Suzanne Fayle of Roseman University Health Sciences
18:26 rambuten nope, I ain't
18:26 rambuten she's giving a talk on open source
18:27 rambuten you'd have to be here to understand
18:28 * druthb plans to torture it out of rambuten when she gets there tomorrow.
18:28 oleonard Hearing trash talk about proprietary systems is always fun. I like this part.
18:28 dcook hehe
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18:33 bgallagher Hi there
18:33 rambuten hey brendan
18:34 AndroUser2 hi rambuten, bgallagher
18:34 bgallagher Great job so far everyone
18:34 * druthb chucks skittles at bgallagher.
18:34 rambuten indeed
18:34 bgallagher Hi Ruth
18:36 rambuten bywater getting good press ATTY
18:36 rambuten ATT
18:40 bgallagher Exit-services-charges--
18:47 dcook That would be great if Koha got a recall feature
18:47 dcook I think that we have a local recall feature using PHP, but I'm not a fan of it...
18:47 jcamins There's a patch in Failed QA, I think.
18:47 dcook @query recall
18:48 huginn dcook: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3296 enhancement, P3, ---, mjr, NEW , replace sessionlog with Perl4Log implementation
18:48 dcook Hmm
18:48 huginn dcook: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4390 major, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, NEW , Notices missing fields in menu on left
18:48 huginn dcook: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7126 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Transfer does not prompt with hold information
18:48 huginn dcook: Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10679 normal, P5 - low, ---,, NEW , Lists interface offers delete option when user doesn't have permission
18:48 huginn dcook: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8156 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wizzyrea, NEW , allow users to put things in lists that are not in the catalog (free text entries to lists)
18:48 dcook Now I'm just going to spam #koha, eh..
18:48 jcamins bug 8688
18:48 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8688 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fcapovilla, In Discussion , Add a recall button to the biblio record details page.
18:48 jcamins Oh, wait, In discussion.
18:51 gmcharlt sfayle++
18:51 rambuten my eyes hurt
18:52 rambuten chow time, ltr
18:53 dcook Hmm, I'm almost thinking nap time...
18:53 tcohen Heh
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19:39 druthb @wunder reno, nv
19:39 huginn druthb: The current temperature in MidTown, Reno, Nevada is 12.4°C (12:30 PM PDT on October 16, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 33%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Falling).
19:39 druthb @wunder 77098
19:39 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 21.1°C (2:39 PM CDT on October 16, 2013). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 21.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Falling).
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20:31 ibeardslee[…]ading-daydreaming
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20:41 dcook Remote in to check email...retrieving 400 emails...guess I haven't checked my work email in a couple days...
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21:00 dcook pianohacker++
21:00 dcook Super excited for the text editor interface for cataloguing
21:00 dcook It's been on my wishlist since I started using Koha
21:01 rambuten I can't hear a thing.
21:02 rambuten Might be time for independent research
21:05 dcook Yeah, hearing is pretty tough
21:06 dcook I knew I was deaf but not this deaf
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21:27 * dcook wonders what is happening in the adjacent room
21:27 dcook Lots of wooing, whistling, and shouting
21:27 dcook Another library conference?
21:29 rambuten whatever it is, they need to put the energy drinks away
21:38 eythian hi
21:38 wahanui bonjour, eythian
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21:43 dcook yo eythian
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21:47 jcamins Okay, 1kg of cookies in the suitcase.
21:47 jcamins Now... how do I pack the other kg?
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21:51 dcook jcamins++
21:51 dcook Cookies!
21:51 wahanui Cookies are delicious delicacies
21:52 rangi blargh, i talked way to much
21:52 jcamins Okay, 1.5kg and my suitcase has gone past "full" to "OMG YOU CAN'T PUT ANY MORE COOKIES IN HERE."
21:53 oleonard And everyone else talked too little rangi
21:54 * dcook is wondering why there is singing next door
21:55 jcamins And yes, my suitcase is from the internet.
21:58 * oleonard pictures jcamins' suitcase as being shiny, futuristic, and with many swooshes
21:59 jcamins oleonard: no, it's the one with the cat falling into it.
22:01 dcook hehe
22:01 dcook "It's now known as the catalogue!"
22:01 oleonard No no he clearly said "catalog"
22:02 dcook Ah, good point
22:02 oleonard ;)
22:05 mrx Hi guys, still a koha newbie, so my queries might be quite trivial still. Is there a way to export only selected number of marc records as .mrc using perl scripting?
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22:30 eythian mrx: what are you trying to do?
22:30 eythian wahanui: first question
22:30 wahanui "What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?"
22:32 wizzyrea < got a refresh today
22:33 eythian nice
22:34 wizzyrea eythian: we can fixup the debian one to look like that too - just a </div> removed from header and added to footer
22:35 eythian sure, if you pop through the files I'll upload them
22:35 wizzyrea k
22:46 mrx want to use web interface result through perl script, rather using web interface prefer to use through perl script. what will be the command in perl to select specic record e.g. rec 23, 345 & 678 to export as .mrc file in perl script. Thanks in advance guys
22:47 jcamins I don't think that's possible.
22:48 jcamins I think if you want to export a list of records based on biblionumber you'd need to write your own script that would do that.
22:48 eythian You could write a perl script to export the records you wanted fairly easily.
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22:50 oleonard This laptop really doesn't like the wifi in here.
22:50 dcook I had a horrible time with the wifi on my phone last night.
22:50 rangi neither does mine oleonard
22:50 rangi i suspect we are maxing dhcp addresses
22:50 wizzyrea probably take your phones and such off of the network?
22:50 wizzyrea ^ what he said
22:51 dcook mmm
22:51 dcook Although I had issues last night around midnight
22:51 dcook Unrelated perhaps
22:51 oleonard Up now: Koha physical and virtual server requirements, with some staff from Washoe County Library
22:52 eythian <-- wizzyrea, looks good.
22:52 wizzyrea \o/
22:52 wizzyrea yea much better
22:52 wizzyrea phew glad to get that done. :)
22:53 gmcharlt wizzyrea++
22:53 dcook wizzyrea++
22:53 dcook That's great
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23:00 wizzyrea to be fair it wasn't that big of a job. And they needed to be updated.
23:00 wizzyrea but thank you all the same :)
23:01 gmcharlt out of many little stones is a wall made
23:02 dcook ^^
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23:07 * cait1 waves
23:11 oleonard I hope there's not a quiz later on this talk.
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23:14 * dcook has the same hope
23:14 rangi just through in acronyms
23:14 rangi throw
23:14 rangi i use KCMXMAN 5i2
23:15 rambuten If it's multiple choice, and you fail, ask the teacher for a narrative test.
23:15 rangi :)
23:17 rambuten chris is using Windows
23:18 rambuten Microsoft Windows Operating System
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23:21 dcook rangi++
23:26 cait1 rangi++
23:27 dcook "Hang out in #koha"
23:27 dcook Yes!
23:27 cait1 yep
23:29 dcook We totes banter!
23:29 cait we... ?
23:29 wahanui we are talkign feature freeze or missing a translation manager it seems
23:29 dcook Ok, I banter...
23:30 dcook :p
23:30 cait wahanui forget we... ?
23:30 wahanui cait, I didn't have anything matching we...
23:30 cait forget we
23:30 wahanui cait: I forgot we
23:30 cait we... ?
23:31 dcook hehe
23:31 gmcharlt we are trying to make the bot forget 'we'
23:32 gmcharlt oh
23:32 gmcharlt oopsie! ;)
23:32 gmcharlt we?
23:32 wahanui we are trying to make the bot forget 'we'
23:32 gmcharlt forget we
23:32 wahanui gmcharlt: I forgot we
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23:35 dcook be rangi
23:35 wahanui Send a patch!
23:36 gmcharlt :)
23:39 rambuten are there any thoughts about encrypting data w/in Koha (the mysql db?)
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23:41 rangi gah
23:41 jcamins rambuten: what data?
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23:42 dcook It was good advice, rangi
23:42 Ashimema We encrypt our gz's on occasions for some customers.. I used somthing along the lines of what's described here:[…]gz-file-on-create
23:42 rambuten patron data mostly
23:42 gmcharlt one could use an encrypted filesystem (or encrypt the backup tarballs)
23:42 Ashimema but then, our db's tend to be pretty small..
23:42 gmcharlt encrypting columns in MySQL would take more work
23:43 gmcharlt of course, performance tradeoffs would have to be considered
23:43 Ashimema we just encrypt the entire mysqldump during the gzipping stage before an rsync
23:43 rambuten Ashimema: yea, that's what we do too
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23:52 Ashimema yikes, my wifi just seriously choked.
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23:56 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
23:57 rambuten hi mtompset
23:57 mtompset Greetings, rambuten.
23:57 rambuten oh, that's how you pronounce it <kete>
23:59 mtompset kay-tay? ki-tay?

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