IRC log for #koha, 2013-08-23

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00:28 dcook magnuse++
00:28 dcook rangi++
01:42 mtompset Have a great day, #koha.
01:55 dcook ie--
01:56 dcook Mmm no error messages...that's lovely
01:56 dcook ie--
02:03 dcook Bleargh...
02:18 dcook Is it just me or does adding items to batches in the Label Creator not work in 3.12.1?
02:19 dcook That's in Chrome on Windows...
02:19 dcook But it works on master in IceWeasel on Debian...
02:20 wizzyrea you are right, it doesn't seem to work on IE, but that was 3.8
02:20 wizzyrea that I noted it in
02:20 dcook Yeah, I can't get it to work on IE8 in 3.8 either
02:21 dcook I think IE9 on 3.8 is ok though
02:21 dcook Yeah, IE9 seems all right for 3.8...(even emulated older versions are OK), but actual IE8...nope
02:22 dcook I'm more surprised about it not working for 3.12.x in a modern browser though :S
02:24 dcook Well...3.12.0 and 3.12.1 at least
02:24 dcook I can't get Library::CallNumber::LC on the server anytime soon so I can't check my main dev...
02:24 dcook ...
02:24 dcook Or maybe I'm j ust an idiot
02:25 dcook Note to self...use a legitimate barcode
02:25 dcook Trying too many systems on too many computers...both virtual and real...
02:26 * dcook is sort of hoping the IE thing is a YUI issue..
02:26 wizzyrea I *thought* it was fixed in 3.12
02:26 * dcook is going to check now
02:27 dcook Yep. Looks like it's working in 3.12 in IE8 :)
02:27 wizzyrea but you know I don't have a IE handy very often
02:27 dcook Being a reasonable person and all, wizzyrea :)
02:28 dcook Fortunately(?), I have a computer to my right that still has IE8 on it so I can test these things
02:28 dcook Well, not "so"
02:28 dcook It was concidence...and now I will never upgrade that computer (or use it for anything important)
02:31 dcook Yet...I don't see why it should be fixed in 3.12...
02:32 dcook wizzyrea: Do you note that issue with a bug?
02:32 * wizzyrea ponders
02:32 wizzyrea I feel like I did report that...but perhaps not because it was only 3.8
02:33 dcook Fair enough.
02:33 dcook Hmm
02:33 * dcook experiments
02:33 wizzyrea I am quite sure I would not file a bug for something that was broken in 3.8, but was already fixed in master.
02:34 wizzyrea normally I check that kind of thing before filing a bug.
02:34 wizzyrea *normally*
02:34 wizzyrea I'm not always normal
02:35 dcook Normal is overratted anyway :p
02:35 dcook overrated even...
02:35 dcook Although I think my first place in Vancouver was overratted...
02:46 dcook Although apparently "remove item" doesn't work in anything?
02:47 wizzyrea interesting. bug 9614 apropos what we were talking about earlier about fines.
02:47 huginn` Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9614 critical, P1 - high, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Fines not assessed after renewing an item
02:47 wizzyrea also it's marked "critical"
02:48 wizzyrea seems pretty borrower friendly to me :P
02:48 wizzyrea can't have that now can we.
02:56 dcook :S
02:56 dcook There is no discernable difference between this code...
02:57 dcook Unless...
02:57 wahanui it has been said that unless is probably meant to give code that reads more like natural language? but i'm not a fan either
02:57 dcook Nope, that doesn't make sense either..
02:57 dcook :S
03:23 dcook No idea at all...this makes zero sense
03:24 wizzyrea what are you looking at?
03:27 dcook and
03:27 dcook I'm giving up though and going for lunch
03:27 dcook This is bonkers
04:03 wizzyrea mtompset++
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04:43 AmitG heya bag
04:48 dcook For anyone who has an interest in the way acid gases react with alkali buffered paper:
04:48 * dcook needs to pay more attention to the AMIA-L listserv.
05:46 dcook Ok, C4::Matcher, it's on!
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06:08 cait good morning #koha
06:08 dcook afternoon cait :)
06:08 dcook Not to disagree
06:08 dcook Just offering my perspective ;)
06:08 cait it's alright
06:12 dcook Ohh...the MARC importing is quite beautiful...
06:13 dcook Well, maybe not beautiful
06:13 dcook Quite functional
06:31 dcook Yay! Got the matching working...
06:35 dcook Let's see about automating this bad boy...
06:42 dcook Hmm, could have better versioning of imports,'s not too bad..
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06:51 alex_a bonjour
06:53 dcook salut alex_a
06:53 dcook ça va?
06:53 alex_a ça va dcook et toi ?
06:54 dcook assez bien
06:54 alex_a cool
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06:54 reiveune hello
06:54 wahanui what's up, reiveune
06:55 dcook seulement 6 minutes jusqu'au weekend ;)
06:55 dcook hey reiveune
06:55 wahanui reiveune is working for biblibre
06:55 gaetan_B joined #koha
06:55 dcook salut gaetan_B
06:55 gaetan_B hello # koha, salut dcook :)
06:56 dcook je devrais attendre jusqu'au le moment quand tout le monde arrive :p
06:56 dcook Ack,
06:56 reiveune dcook: seulement 8 heures jusqu'au weekend :(
06:56 dcook jusqu'au moment*
06:56 dcook Bah, c'est seulement 8 heures. Ce serai 5 bientôt ;)
07:08 * magnuse waves in french
07:08 dcook hey magnuse :)
07:09 dcook The OAI-PMH harvester goes well :)
07:09 magnuse yay!
07:10 dcook I think I just need to add in some email notifications and then I might actually try more thorough testing...
07:10 dcook Well, there are little bits and pieces to improve, but I think it working pretty well
07:11 magnuse oh and happy gbsd europe![…]bug_squashing_day
07:12 magnuse "needs signoff" is down from 165 to 150 - yay!
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07:13 kf back :)
07:13 kf and happy GBSD to Europe!
07:13 kf gbsd?
07:13 wahanui gbsd is Global Bug Squashing Day
07:16 magnuse KIA ORA KF!
07:23 dcook joined #koha
07:23 dcook So I really should be running along, but...
07:23 dcook[…]804&type=1&ref=nf
07:23 dcook rangi, wizzyrea: I imagine that you two might find this amusing ^^
07:25 dcook Night all. Have a good Friday :)
07:25 dcook And weekend
07:37 kf good morning :)
08:13 * magnuse ponders how to migrate active loans - a .koc file or straight sql?
08:13 kf magnuse: straight sql has workednicely for us
08:13 kf and you can set more fields, like renwals
08:15 magnuse yeah, and i have to do some sql for old_issues anyway
08:31 magnuse @wunder marseille
08:31 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 24.0°C (10:05 AM CEST on August 23, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
08:31 magnuse ooh, that's hot!
08:31 magnuse @wunder boo
08:31 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 13.0°C (10:20 AM CEST on August 23, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady).
08:31 magnuse that is... less hot ;-)
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08:43 drojf hi #koha
08:43 drojf hows the bug squashing going? :)
08:50 magnuse needs signoff has gone from 165 to 150
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08:50 magnuse but there are still some left for you drojf :-)
08:51 magnuse ...and for papa
08:51 * magnuse will not be able to contribute much this time, sadly
08:52 * drojf neither
08:52 drojf :(
08:56 magnuse someone who does have the time should look at bug 9949
08:56 huginn` Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9949 major, P5 - low, ---, chris, Failed QA , Tidy up the intranet set up and fix a potential security issue when running from git
09:09 kf true
09:09 kf wish i had more time :(
09:09 kf didn't work out as i hoped for today
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09:42 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
09:42 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Alter Schlachthof, Berlin, Germany is 21.7°C (11:40 AM CEST on August 23, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
09:45 kf @wunder Konstanz
09:45 huginn` kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 19.9°C (11:45 AM CEST on August 23, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
09:55 magnuse @wunder boo
09:55 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 13.0°C (11:20 AM CEST on August 23, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady).
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11:13 tcohen morning #koha
11:14 kf hi tcohen
11:14 tcohen hi kf
11:16 tcohen @later tell cjh we had a power outage yesterday, bgkriegel will be sending the translations pull request during the day
11:16 huginn` tcohen: The operation succeeded.
11:29 * magnuse needs lunch
11:29 * tcohen needs breakfast, bbl
11:30 tcohen hi magnuse
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12:02 oleonard Hi #koha
12:03 Viktor Hi oleonard
12:03 Viktor And #koha :)
12:04 Viktor A little thought for the new themes: how about making fields like alternate address expandable but not visible from start?
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12:07 jcamins Viktor: you could easily do that with jQuery.
12:08 Viktor Ah, true of course jcamins :)
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12:51 magnuse looks like africa and europe are on holiday or otherwise engaged - it's up you now, americans ;-)[…]shing_day#Numbers
12:51 magnuse s/up/up to/
12:51 oleonard Once again it's up to the Yanks!
12:52 oleonard We'll spend lots of time dithering about it first, and then jump in at the last minute.
12:53 magnuse hehe
12:53 magnuse better late than never :-)
12:54 magnuse well, not just the yanks, i meant to include south, middle and north america :-)
12:54 oleonard As a Yank, I have no idea what you're talking about.
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12:56 magnuse :-)
12:58 magnuse druthb!
13:02 druthb magnuse! :D
13:03 magnuse druthb!
13:03 wahanui Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would.
13:03 magnuse moahahahaha
13:11 * druthb snaps.
13:21 magnuse oh noes
13:22 oleonard It's okay magnuse, when druthb starts snapping like that she's simply segueing into a "West Side Story"-style dance number.
13:22 magnuse oh noes
13:22 magnuse :-)
13:23 * druthb chuckles.
13:24 druthb Had a wee bit of Facebook drama hit last night, and it's made me a bit grouchy.  About three years ago, I told the #koha community to please acknowledge my gender change and stop calling me jdavidb…and it's happened, no itch.  So why is it that a friend of 20 years can't seem to get it?  People I've never met—and some, likely never will—are nicer to me than old friends.
13:26 magnuse ouch
13:27 oleonard I'm sure it's completely outside the realm of experience for many, but all it takes is a bit of care--something you would think a friend could take.
13:27 druthb She actually called me "david" in a comment on a facebook thread last night.  talljoy jumped on it.
13:30 oleonard Seems like a real friend would be mortified to have made that mistake.
13:30 druthb talljoy++
13:34 druthb nope; she then proceeded to do it again in a private message, telling me that my "lifestyle" was abhorrent to (their) god, and I should renounce it, and…       bah.
13:34 oleonard Yuck.
13:36 druthb That was the last straw.  Told her when she cared enough about me to call me by my legal name and gender, then she might be close enough to get let in on the deep knowledge of my "lifestyle" (sooooo booooring…), but until then, there's no room for her in my life.
13:38 magnuse yuck
13:38 magnuse indeed
13:44 oleonard In other news, I love git bz and I want to force all others to use it too!
13:45 druthb :)
13:45 * oleonard borrows magnuse's GBSD whip to enforce this new rule
13:45 magnuse oleonard++
13:45 magnuse go oleonard go!
13:46 magnuse i have to run in like 15 minutes, so it's good someone else has taken over The Whip :-)
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13:52 druthb drojf! :)
13:52 drojf druthb! :)
13:54 magnuse drojf!
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13:56 drojf eduroam--
13:56 drojf @karma eduroam
13:56 huginn` drojf: Karma for "eduroam" has been increased 1 time and decreased 7 times for a total karma of -6.
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14:04 magnuse maximep!
14:04 magnuse talljoy!
14:04 wahanui I CRUNCH DATA or kicking butt at words with friends
14:04 magnuse heh
14:04 talljoy lol
14:04 talljoy good morning!
14:05 * magnuse crunches data and like metal music too
14:05 magnuse s/like/likes/
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14:10 magnuse rambutan!
14:10 rambutan magnuse!!
14:10 wahanui magnuse is a Norwegian giant.
14:10 magnuse :-)
14:11 rambutan wahanui!
14:11 wahanui i am a strange duck
14:11 magnuse lol
14:14 drojf cookies!
14:14 wahanui Cookies are delicious delicacies
14:19 oleonard kenza++
14:20 oleonard Remember back in April paul_p introduced her by saying "she knows nothing about Perl & git."
14:20 gmcharlt faster learner
14:21 gmcharlt *fast
14:21 mtompset joined #koha
14:21 gmcharlt me <-- COFFEE
14:21 mtompset caffeine++
14:22 mtompset @karma caffeine
14:22 huginn` mtompset: Karma for "caffeine" has been increased 3 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 3.
14:22 gmcharlt caffeine++
14:22 mtompset Glad I wasn't the only one. :)
14:22 * magnuse calls it a week - have fun #koha, and don't forget GBSD! :-)
14:22 oleonard[…]s/coffee-mug-zone
14:23 gmcharlt oleonard++
14:23 oleonard I'm not a caffeine hound, but I do love that mug.
14:23 druthb Hi, mtompset!
14:25 drojf caffeine++
14:25 mtompset Greetings, druthb drojf oleonard gmcharlt. :)
14:25 druthb @quote random
14:25 huginn` druthb: Quote #265: "<gmcharlt> #koha ... once you join, you need never sleep again!" (added by wizzyrea at 04:32 AM, June 27, 2013)
14:26 drojf fun fact: there has been a "caffeine hackathon" in berlin, i think last weekend. seems like they did crazy cooking with yerba mate and started a database of caffeinated drinks
14:27 drojf hi mtompset
14:27 mtompset yerba mate?
14:28 mtompset Ah, so a type of tea.
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14:29 drojf kind of. it is quite common in soft drink form in germany, at least among hackers, nerds and lately hipsters ;)
14:29 oleonard That was an appropriate random quote
14:30 mtompset Yes, it was strangely applicable.
14:30 mtompset Ah, so it is carbonated. Interesting.
14:35 talljoy the yerba mate i remember is just like a funky tasting tea with lots of sugar.  and you drink it out of a gourd.  (my mom is from south america)  i've never seen it carbonated.  Yerba mate soda?  eenteresting....
15:12 reiveune bye
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15:13 tcohen This is how people actually drink mate in Argentina:
15:13 tcohen (i mean, reading Koha's start page of course)
15:13 jcamins With Koha?
15:14 jcamins Nice!
15:15 tcohen exactly :-P
15:16 tcohen that paper in the picture is me counting your sample record matches yesterday
15:16 tcohen heh
15:16 jcamins Hehe.
15:17 * jcamins will post an updated patch that quiets the warnings as soon as he has one.
15:29 drojf talljoy: i don't think it is a thing much outside germany. there has been one brand and it gained in popularity a lot over the last years, now there are more and more mate soft drinks popping up everywhere
15:30 drojf tcohen: i'll try to bring some to argentina if i somehow find a way to attend kohacon 2014 ;)
15:31 tcohen i'll try to go to germany soon
15:31 tcohen to just give it a try :-D
15:31 drojf lol
15:32 tcohen btw, i hope kohacon14 takes place in argentina, and you can come
15:32 drojf it looks pretty much like it takes place in argentina at least
15:33 drojf what did we say? we close proposals end of the month, right?
15:33 drojf i don't believe there will be lots of people waiting for the last week to hand something in
15:38 drojf i wonder how much postage to argentina is. but sending glass bottles is not really fun
15:42 * druthb scrolls back, is still confused, goes back to brooding, and writing her documentation.
15:43 jcamins What are you documenting?
15:43 gaetan_B bye !
15:43 druthb cPanel's API model.
15:43 jcamins Sounds scintillating.
15:44 mtompset I think you forgot the sarcasm tags, jcamins. ;)
15:45 druthb I just assume jcamins has sarcasm tags all the time, when talking about docs.
15:45 druthb it's part of the CSS class.
15:45 jcamins Exactly.
15:47 drojf meh. library closing. later
15:47 * mtompset finds an interesting youtube track for "He Understands Me" (
15:52 druthb back in a bit.
16:01 jenkins_koha Starting build #1384 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
16:06 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10741: (follow-up) add regression test <[…]a77f54f95188bb85c> / Bug 10741: reformat test for displaying place hold link in OPAC search results <[…]f0dd0c69a20c8a915> / Bug 10741: restore holdability of in-transit items on OPAC search results <http://git.
16:12 jenkins_koha Starting build #63 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
16:16 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10745: remove more ambiguity for translators for XSLT subfieldSelect parameters <[…]e0e024ad32df2f8b5>
16:25 * druthb goes "harrrumph.
16:26 gmcharlt druthb: oh?
16:27 druthb One of our scrum teams here has added me to their demo list.  By definition, if they're tinkering with the API, I'm a stakeholder and should be there.  But out of a half-hour demo, about 2 minutes actually applies to me.
16:27 jcamins gmcharlt: they want another 40 APIs documented.
16:27 druthb It's a nice break from  my desk, but low on content, for me.
16:28 druthb They have a docs person to actually *do* it.
16:28 druthb I just kind of nod approvingly.
16:30 gmcharlt IOW, you'll anti-harrumph at the docs person? ;)
16:30 druthb That team (Phoenix) is on an interesting project right now, and they've done some pretty snazzy things in the last couple of sprints.
16:30 druthb No, she's doing a good job and all.  Just still not quite sure why I got invited.  Nothing much for me to do with it, really.
16:31 druthb Our Scrum teams get to come up with clever names…  Cobra, Code Monkeys, Angry Llamas, and now Phoenix.  Never a dull moment at cPanel.
16:37 druthb I've also been adjuncted onto the Security team; not enough to have any clout, but enough that I got the t-shirt, and am on their mailing list.  *shrug*
16:40 * oleonard wonders where his "Koha templates" t-shirt is
16:42 rambutan I still have my lime green Koha t-shirt. Kinda raggy these days, wear it for gardening
16:42 * druthb thinks about a t-shirt order for KohaCon.  The Koha logo on the front of all of them, and on the back…. hm.  gmcharlt: Glutton for Punishment  oleonard: Template God    cait: Stress-o-Matic
16:43 oleonard Bring it on.
16:44 druthb lol
16:44 druthb oleonard++
16:44 * jcamins would be "won't wear it anyway."
16:44 gmcharlt jcamins: just for you, we'll design a Koha tie
16:44 druthb jcamins's shirt would need to have a tie printed on the front.
16:45 gmcharlt erk
16:45 * gmcharlt backs away slowly from druthb
16:45 druthb lol
16:45 jcamins gmcharlt: the tie I would wear.
16:45 rambutan well, that would work. A tie with a t-shirt.
16:45 druthb jcamins could make a tie work with *anything*, I think.
16:46 jcamins rambutan: except I wouldn't wear the t-shirt.
16:46 druthb *just* the tie?    :-O
16:46 * jcamins only wears short sleeves when it passes 90 degrees.
16:46 jcamins lol
16:47 * druthb blushes and hides
16:50 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #63: SUCCESS in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/master_maria/63/
16:50 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10741: restore holdability of in-transit items on OPAC search results
16:50 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10741: reformat test for displaying place hold link in OPAC search results
16:50 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10741: (follow-up) add regression test
16:50 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10741 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Can not place a hold on an item in transit and for loan
16:50 jenkins_koha Starting build #64 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
16:54 mtompset Cheesy t-shirt with T printed on it?
16:54 mtompset with tie printed on it?
16:55 jcamins No, there would have to be an actual tie to go with the rest of my clothing.
17:00 mtompset Hmmm.... the tie... "The Koha RM Tie" ;)
17:01 mtompset Get a fancy tie clip made up with the koha logo.
17:02 mtompset On a more relevant thread... how much information should the print?
17:02 * oleonard pictures a Superbowl-style ring for every RM
17:02 druthb The most-recent "Team cPanel" shirt has on the back, "I've got 1100011 problems but b****y ain't one."
17:02 mtompset If a feature is added, should it include a a couple lines explaining what config variables or system preferences need tweaking?
17:03 jcamins oleonard: I don't think I'd wear that.
17:04 mtompset @quote random
17:04 huginn` mtompset: Quote #128: "When TDF was founded, the group's leadership invited Oracle to participate in the hope that the database giant would be willing to hand over the OOo trademark and allow the vendor-neutral governance body to take over stewardship of the project" (added by wizzyrea at 07:11 PM, April 18, 2011)
17:05 druthb @quote random
17:05 huginn` druthb: Quote #241: "oleonard: The Pootle box at midnight sounds like a mystery novel" (added by druthb at 03:08 PM, April 18, 2013)
17:05 mtompset That's true.
17:05 druthb The Pootle box, at midnight, with a crowbar...
17:06 mtompset no no no... with a |
17:06 druthb you've obviously not hacked on Pootle much.
17:06 mtompset No. But crowbar is most certainly not a function. :P
17:06 druthb For Pootle, it should be.
17:07 mtompset Pootle sounds a lot like potty.
17:07 druthb Given the Pootle project logo...
17:07 druthb I originally thought that was tawdry and silly.  Then I actually *used* Pootle for a while, and think it *totally* accurate
17:09 druthb Geez, I'm a snarky wench today.    *shrug*  One o' them days.
17:09 mtompset Mr. Hanky's cousin?
17:10 druthb mhm
17:11 mtompset If a feature is added, should it include a a couple lines explaining what config variables or system preferences need tweaking in the output of
17:12 oleonard Example?
17:12 druthb The norm for a long time was that a new DB rev added one line only to the output, like "Added new variables for blah blah"
17:13 pastebot "mtompset" at pasted "example" (6 lines) at
17:14 mtompset I'm trying to reconstruct what I think is the bug for 6874.
17:14 mtompset well, the patch.
17:14 wahanui it has been said that the patch is pretty old now, good luck
17:14 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1384: SUCCESS in 1 hr 13 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1384/
17:14 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10741: restore holdability of in-transit items on OPAC search results
17:14 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10741: reformat test for displaying place hold link in OPAC search results
17:14 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10741: (follow-up) add regression test
17:14 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10741 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Can not place a hold on an item in transit and for loan
17:15 oleonard have a good weekend #koha. I'm out.
17:15 mtompset early?!
17:15 oleonard \o/
17:16 jenkins_koha Starting build #1385 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
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17:26 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #64: SUCCESS in 36 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/master_maria/64/
17:26 jenkins_koha Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 10745: remove more ambiguity for translators for XSLT subfieldSelect parameters
17:26 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10745 normal, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , More fun on translation bug with XSLT subfieldSelect parameters
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17:34 jcamins mtompset: I think that is unnecessary, since we've never done it before. As long as it points out the existence of the syspref and config variable, it is the sysadmin's responsibility to deal with it.
17:36 jcamins BTW, I guess you changed your mind about backporting directly (wise) and are trying to get it into master now?
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18:13 jcamins drojf: can you eat oats?
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18:16 jcamins Tell me what I should put on paninis for dinner other than tomatoes.
18:17 tcohen hmm
18:17 tcohen vegetarian?
18:18 jcamins Ideally.
18:18 * cait waves
18:18 cait jcamins: what's in your fridge?
18:18 jcamins cait: tomatoes.
18:18 wahanui tomatoes are out, as I have none.
18:18 cait but tomatos don't belong in the fridge
18:18 jcamins And cucumbers, watermelon, and a tiny piece of fennel.
18:19 cait hm not so easy
18:19 tcohen basil, some soft cheese, and olives
18:19 cait cucumber sounds not too bad
18:19 cait isn't there a famous english sandwich with cucumber?
18:20 jcamins cait: yes, they're called cucumber sandwiches, and all they are is cucumber on bread.
18:20 jcamins :P
18:20 jcamins I'm thinking maybe mozzarella.
18:20 tcohen guacamole?
18:21 jcamins Oooh.
18:21 jcamins Nice!
18:21 jcamins We'll have to see if I can find ripe avocadoes.
18:21 * tcohen feels some tiny bit of success, maybe enough for friday
18:22 jcamins :)
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18:29 mtompset jcamins: Yes, I am trying to get it into master. It wasn't a matter of changed mind, it was a matter of oops I said origin/master on this branch.
18:29 jcamins Ah.
18:30 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1385: SUCCESS in 1 hr 13 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1385/
18:30 jenkins_koha Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 10745: remove more ambiguity for translators for XSLT subfieldSelect parameters
18:30 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10745 normal, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , More fun on translation bug with XSLT subfieldSelect parameters
18:30 jcamins That's probably the better plan anyway. Though, as you know, I preferred to just have the author rebase.
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18:31 mtompset I have been going through the obsoleted patches with a fine tooth comb, to make sure I didn't miss any pieces. I'm just over half way through.
18:31 jenkins_koha Starting build #1386 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
18:31 jcamins Why are you going through obsoleted patches?
18:32 jcamins The obsoleted patches were obsoleted for reasons.
18:33 mtompset Because there is a piece missing, I think.
18:33 mtompset 3 lines of code.
18:33 mtompset Don't ask where and how... I've forgotten, in the blur of going through things one by one.
18:34 jcamins I see.
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18:47 mtompset I also have been able to tweak a couple minor things like comments, missing semi-colon on an SQL statement, etc.
18:59 tcohen anyone from biblibre around?
19:01 cait tcohen: i think it's too late on a friday :)
19:01 tcohen isn't "later" on germany?
19:02 cait ?
19:02 jcamins cait?
19:02 wahanui cait: go to bed
19:02 tcohen i mean, you're around
19:02 cait it's 9 pm
19:03 cait :)
19:03 jcamins wahanui certainly thinks so.
19:03 wahanui jcamins: i'm not following you...
19:03 cait not really late, but too late to work
19:04 tcohen cait: is there a special use case were you wouldn't prefer to have dropdown menues for fixed value stuff on the patron import?
19:04 cait tcohen: hm what are we talking about?
19:05 druthb cait!
19:05 tcohen date pickers? valid branchcodes, etc?
19:05 * druthb hugs cait.
19:05 cait druthb!
19:06 cait tcohen: i think it would make sense to have dropdowns for branches etc
19:06 cait patron categories
19:06 wahanui patron categories are used to define circulation
19:07 tcohen so, I have your blessing
19:07 tcohen :-P
19:07 cait heh
19:07 cait you don't need my blessing!
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19:18 tcohen cait: you always come witha super specific scenario I didn't think of
19:19 cait lol
19:20 cait ok :)
19:20 cait i will take that as a compliment then
19:20 mtompset Cait! Cait! She's our man. If she can't break it... someone else will. ;)
19:21 * mtompset grins.
19:22 mtompset jcamins: Part of the ugliness was the use of t::lib::Mocks::Context, which may have been pulled into t::lib::Mocks
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19:23 mtompset And yes, that's the 3 lines of code that is missing.
19:24 mtompset There is no such thing as t/lib/Mocks/ anywhere in the patches.
19:26 mtompset[…]20059&action=diff
19:26 * druthb chucks Skittles at mtompset for the joking misgendering of Super Cait.
19:26 mtompset No such file, so I don't know how khall_away signed it off.
19:26 cait thx druthb
19:26 mtompset druthb: You are well aware of the idiomatic use of "You're the man!"
19:27 druthb I am, of course.  Doesn't mean I *like* it, but I am aware of it.
19:28 mtompset Plus, woman doesn't fit the cheer. :P
19:28 mtompset Unless you have a gender neutral version that fits the beat.
19:28 druthb Let's just say I'm tetchy about such things, having been called a dude-in-a-dress one too many times.
19:28 druthb "gal" would do nicely.
19:29 mtompset Hmm... true, in that situation it does.
19:29 mtompset druthb++
19:31 druthb I'm not for replacing general-purpose terms like "mankind" with awkward constructs like "personkind;" when speaking in a generality about the whole species, I'm okay with the masculine terms.  But when speaking of a specific individual, it's kind of important to me to use the ones they do.  That Golden Rule thing.
19:32 mtompset Yes, but I'm okay with appropriate idiomatic uses.
19:32 mtompset I'm the bride of Christ, for example, after all.
19:32 mtompset Not exactly the kind of imagery a straight guy associates with.
19:33 druthb heh.
19:34 druthb The notion of gender-ish language is just kind of a sore spot for me, after last night's Facebook drama.  Lost a couple of friends I'd known for 20+ years over it.
19:34 mtompset Oh, sorry to hear that.
19:35 * cait thinks that some people are quite stupid.
19:35 mtompset I apologize, cait if you were offended. I did mean it in a good way.
19:36 cait mtompset: it's ok :) i am quite tolerant to that, but i think druthb has a good point about individuals and such
19:37 cait guess i should switch into qa mode
19:37 cait :)
19:37 druthb It's also a cultural thing.  If I see an Asian immigrant at a store, and they call me "sir", I cut them some slack; some Asian languages lack gender-specific pronouns altogether.
19:37 cait i got tea... some good koha company... and the family has left.
19:37 mtompset true, druthb. Sometimes that a good thing.
19:39 jcamins What a name. "Angelocrator-Engelhardt."
19:39 rambutan I think Koha would be a good name for a tea: "Koha Tea"
19:39 druthb I'm also kind of used to it on the phone, and at drive-through windows—I do have a deep voice.  But someone who's known me for two decades, and has been asked repeatedly…no.  Time's up.  I've been Ruth for three years.
19:41 mtompset I'll admit, I have problems with pronouns. I like my pronouns genotypical. :(
19:41 rambutan My ex-mother-in-law always called me "그 사람" - "that person".
19:42 tcohen leaving home, bye #koha
19:43 druthb rambutan:  "that person."  how…impersonal.
19:43 mtompset rambutan: Sounds like she didn't like you.
19:43 rambutan indeed
19:44 rambutan only slightly I suppose. She was quite old, had a number of children and grandchildren, and while I was a foreigner I think she was just at the point of not bothering to get to personal with others
19:45 rambutan I guess I neglected to mention my ex-wife was Korean.
19:45 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1386: SUCCESS in 1 hr 14 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1386/
19:45 * jcamins figured that out based on the fact that your MIL referred to you in Korean. :)
19:45 jenkins_koha Starting build #84 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
19:47 cait jcamins: where did you find that one?
19:47 jcamins cait: find what?
19:47 cait jcamins: you know that engel means angel?
19:47 cait the name :)
19:47 jcamins Oh.
19:48 jcamins In a bibliography.
19:48 cait i am wondering if the first part is supposed to be a translation of the second
19:48 jcamins That's possible.
19:55 mtompset ?
19:55 jcamins Yup.
19:55 cait jcamins: oh cool, looks like i was right :)
19:56 jcamins Looks like someone got confused and read the translation as a hyphenated name.
20:04 cait yep :)
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20:26 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #84: SUCCESS in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.12.x/84/
20:26 jenkins_koha * Sophie Meynieux: Bug 10664: fix error in if there is no active currency
20:26 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10664 [QA Followup] - fix error in if there is no active currency
20:26 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 10745: remove more ambiguity for translators for XSLT subfieldSelect parameters
20:26 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10664 normal, P4, ---, sophie.meynieux, Pushed to Stable , Software error in if there is no active currency
20:26 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10745 normal, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Stable , More fun on translation bug with XSLT subfieldSelect parameters
20:40 druthb Have a great weekend #koha!
20:41 tcohen template plugins?
20:44 jcamins tt plugins?
20:44 wahanui tt plugins are awesome
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21:06 tcohen tt plugins?
21:06 wahanui tt plugins are awesome
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22:31 cjh tcohen: ty
22:32 tcohen hi cjh
23:40 * tcohen is loving Slice => {}
23:42 mtompset the array of hashes it generates is nice.
23:45 jenkins_koha Starting build #85 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
23:52 jcamins tcohen/cjh: do you need me to delete those tags?
23:55 tcohen ah?
23:55 wahanui somebody said ah was ?
23:55 jcamins tcohen, I think.
23:55 jcamins n_acq_a_porter, BL_304, etc.

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