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dcook |
morning #koha |
00:04 |
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rangi |
hi dcook |
00:04 |
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dcook |
hey ya rangi |
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dcook |
Apparently French police conducted a raid yesterday/today and seized 66 tonnes of miniature eiffel tower trinkets in a Parisian suburb |
00:20 |
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dcook |
I did wonder where they all came from... |
00:21 |
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dcook |
http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/20[…]I-95771374871005/ |
00:22 |
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jcamins |
Miniature Eiffel tower trinkets? |
00:22 |
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dcook |
Yeah, those little ones they sell at the base of the eiffel tower |
00:22 |
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dcook |
On key chains and such |
00:23 |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
00:24 |
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wizzyrea |
why, becasue they were tiny keyrings made out of pressed, lacquered, cocaine or something? |
00:27 |
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dcook |
Nah, I imagine it's probably due to having no licences and paying no taxes |
00:27 |
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dcook |
Possibly also due to annoying tourists |
00:27 |
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dcook |
I quite disliked visiting the eiffel tower. |
00:27 |
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dcook |
Paris in general really, although Montmartre and the Louvre were sweet. |
00:28 |
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dcook |
I thought Musée d'Orsay was overrated despite supposedly being underrated... |
00:28 |
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dcook |
But yeah...all I remember of the Eiffel tower really are the illegal street vendors and soldiers |
00:28 |
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dcook |
(soldiers due to a bomb threat at the time or some such) |
00:29 |
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dcook |
The Arc de Triomphe was neat...although Champs-Elysées is weird. |
00:29 |
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dcook |
Free toilets in the McDo's though :p |
00:35 |
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dcook |
Oh...I think I might've found the solution to yesterday's seemingly impossible problem! |
00:42 |
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dcook |
Missing subscription history... |
00:43 |
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dcook |
I had no idea that Led Zepplin had so many LotR references...shows what happens when you actually listen to lyrics |
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02:21 |
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dcook |
bug 10715 |
02:21 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10715 trivial, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , MARC21 007 Plugin Editor doesn't load position 01 |
02:21 |
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dcook |
This might be the smallest patch I've ever seen |
02:21 |
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dcook |
1 character change |
02:22 |
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dcook |
If anyone wants one of the easiest sign-offs ever |
02:55 |
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dcook |
For those of you who don't live in Australia: http://www.smh.com.au/small-bu[…]130809-2rlq1.html |
02:55 |
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dcook |
I don't know if onesies are a thing elsewhere in the world at the moment... |
02:57 |
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rangi |
they seem to be |
02:58 |
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dcook |
I really thought it was an Inner West thing here in Sydney for a while. Who knew? |
03:11 |
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rangi |
http://gitlab.org/ |
03:11 |
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rangi |
potentially interesting |
03:13 |
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wizzyrea |
very shiny |
03:14 |
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rangi |
i might run it up for a test |
03:14 |
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* dcook |
eats more chocolate cupcakes |
03:14 |
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wizzyrea |
ruby... but, meh. |
03:14 |
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wizzyrea |
if it works it works |
03:15 |
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jcamins |
rangi: I think there was a reason I'd decided I didn't like that. Possibly that I couldn't get it to run because I tried to use it on a server that had other things. |
03:15 |
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jcamins |
Looks like it requires a very particular version of Ruby and Python. |
03:15 |
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rangi |
yep |
03:15 |
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jcamins |
I remember seeing it and thinking it looked very cool, though. |
03:16 |
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rangi |
ruby always have to be difficult |
03:36 |
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jcamins |
Wow. |
03:37 |
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jcamins |
Persona/BrowserID may be the easiest thing ever. |
03:37 |
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* jcamins |
just added Persona authentication to Biblionarrator. |
03:39 |
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rangi |
yup |
03:40 |
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jcamins |
Now, at some point I need to make it look good, rather than just giving a 500: Permission denied error (especially since it shouldn't be a 500...) but I think the fact that it took me twenty minutes to add BrowserID authentication is still pretty cool. |
03:41 |
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* jcamins |
goes to sleep now that he's ending on a high note. |
03:41 |
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dcook |
\o/ |
03:41 |
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dcook |
night jcamins |
03:43 |
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dcook |
Hmm, 50% of the cupcake supply has been diminished... |
03:43 |
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* dcook |
is glad that there's no one in his office who can see him eating dessert first |
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06:17 |
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* cait |
waves |
06:17 |
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dcook |
hey ya magnuse and cait :) |
06:18 |
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dcook |
Wait a minute... |
06:18 |
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dcook |
Shouldn't cait be on vacation? :o |
06:18 |
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cait |
she is |
06:18 |
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dcook |
Well in that case, glad to see you ^_^ |
06:18 |
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dcook |
salut laurence aussi! |
06:18 |
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* magnuse |
waves |
06:19 |
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laurence |
hi dcook, magnuse cait |
06:20 |
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magnuse |
hiya dcook laurence cait |
06:43 |
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* magnuse |
waves again |
06:48 |
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* cait |
waves and runs off to breakfast |
06:48 |
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* dcook |
continues eating chocolate cupcakes |
06:48 |
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dcook |
I think I'm going about 2 cupcakes per hour at the moment...;) |
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christophe_c |
hello #koha |
06:53 |
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dcook |
salut christophe_c |
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christophe_c |
salut dcook ;-) |
06:53 |
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dcook |
salut alex_a aussi |
06:54 |
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magnuse |
bonjour christophe_c et alex_a |
06:54 |
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magnuse |
@wunder marseille |
06:54 |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 23.0°C (8:30 AM CEST on August 13, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
06:54 |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
06:54 |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 12.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on August 13, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). |
06:54 |
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alex_a |
Bonjour dcook magnuse |
06:54 |
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dcook |
@wunder sydney, australia |
06:54 |
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huginn |
dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 22.0°C (4:30 PM EST on August 13, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 20%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
06:54 |
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christophe_c |
bonjour magnuse ;-) |
06:55 |
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magnuse |
"Humidity: 20%" that's not very humid... |
06:55 |
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dcook |
" 12.0°C" that's not very warm ;) |
06:55 |
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dcook |
It's been pretty nice recently. I think winter is coming to an end soon. |
06:55 |
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dcook |
I went back to Canada this time last year, so this will be my first Australian spring... |
06:57 |
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magnuse |
hehe |
06:58 |
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dcook |
Wait a minute...does the work day start at 8am in Norway and France? |
07:03 |
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magnuse |
8am in norway, 9am in france i think |
07:04 |
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christophe_c |
yes for us around 9am |
07:05 |
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dcook |
I'll have to remember that when I visit ;) |
07:07 |
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christophe_c |
:) |
07:09 |
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magnuse |
8am if you work in an office |
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07:10 |
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magnuse |
some foodstores have started opening at 7am |
07:10 |
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magnuse |
bookshops and such usually open around 10am |
07:10 |
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sophie_m |
hello #koha |
07:22 |
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magnuse |
bonjour sophie_m |
07:22 |
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sophie_m |
hello magnuse, no holidays for you ? |
07:23 |
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magnuse |
sophie_m: oh, i had 3 weeks in july |
07:24 |
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sophie_m |
ah, I was also on holidays, that's why I didn't saw it ;-) |
07:24 |
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magnuse |
july is the big summer holiday month in norway, not august |
07:24 |
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magnuse |
hehe, probably :-) |
07:29 |
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dcook |
magnuse: What's the best time to visit Norway, would you say? |
07:44 |
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magnuse |
dcook: summer |
07:44 |
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magnuse |
unless you enjoy snow and cold and darkness |
07:45 |
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magnuse |
oh, our summer, i mean |
07:45 |
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magnuse |
so june, july, august |
07:45 |
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magnuse |
august is probably the busiest month, because a lot of europe goes on holiday then |
07:45 |
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magnuse |
so june or july, really |
07:47 |
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dcook |
Cool. Good to know :) |
07:47 |
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dcook |
That's winter here, so perfect timing ;) |
07:47 |
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magnuse |
:-) |
07:51 |
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magnuse |
and i would of cours erecommend going to northern norway |
07:51 |
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magnuse |
to see the midnight sun and the spectacular scenery |
07:51 |
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magnuse |
the Lofoten islands, for example |
07:52 |
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dcook |
I'll have to remember that. Midnight sun sounds quite astonishing :) |
07:52 |
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magnuse |
it is! :-) |
07:53 |
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magnuse |
and these guys: http://flynonstop.no/ are just about to start a direct route from London to Bodø, so you could skip sothern norway completely ;-) |
07:55 |
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dcook |
hehe |
07:55 |
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magnuse |
(i grew up in the south, so i'm allowed to dis them :-) |
07:55 |
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dcook |
hehe |
07:56 |
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dcook |
I know the feeling |
07:56 |
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dcook |
Growing up in the Canadian prairies, I feel offended if anyone insults them but people from there ;) |
07:57 |
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dcook |
MARC-- |
07:57 |
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dcook |
AACR2-- |
07:57 |
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dcook |
(This whole "main entry", "added entry", "tracing paragraph" stuff is silly...) |
07:58 |
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magnuse |
MARC is silly... |
07:58 |
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magnuse |
dcook: http://www.lofoten.info/en |
08:03 |
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dcook |
Whoa, I think I just levelled up my knowledge of added entries... |
08:04 |
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dcook |
I suppose that knowledge is only valuable insofar as understanding how silly the concepts of main/added entries are in online cataloguing |
08:04 |
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dcook |
magnuse: ah, cool! Thanks! |
08:04 |
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dcook |
I don't know when I'll get a chance to visit Norway, but it's been on the list of places to visit for the past 10 years |
08:04 |
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* dcook |
does some calculations |
08:05 |
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dcook |
My materal great great grandparents were from Norway |
08:05 |
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dcook |
maternal* |
08:06 |
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magnuse |
cool, do you know whereabouts? |
08:07 |
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dcook |
Alas, I do not :(. I only have 2 living relatives left on that side, and I'm not sure that even they would know :/ |
08:09 |
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magnuse |
ah, you can make it a quest then, 1 month in norway to locate your roots :-) |
08:10 |
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dcook |
hehe |
08:10 |
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dcook |
I like this idea! |
08:10 |
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dcook |
Alas, I'm not sure how affordable that option might be though. |
08:14 |
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magnuse |
yeah http://www.telegraph.co.uk/fin[…]lace-to-live.html |
08:14 |
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magnuse |
see also http://www.garfors.com/2013/06[…]ity-in-world.html for some corrections to the numbers |
08:17 |
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dcook |
Hmm, these prices aren't dissimilar to Sydney |
08:17 |
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dcook |
With the exception of the beer, perhaps |
08:18 |
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magnuse |
we have lots of taxes on alcohol |
08:18 |
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dcook |
They do here as well, although I suspect not as many |
08:18 |
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dcook |
It's funny how relative costs are |
08:19 |
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dcook |
I remember thinking how Canadian alcohol was expensive (in comparison to American alcohol), but it is cheaper than Australian alcohol (which is cheaper than Norwegian alcohol) |
08:19 |
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dcook |
I'm going to the cinema tonight, but fortunately it's cheap night, so it'll be about 12 dollars instead of the usual 17-20 |
08:19 |
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magnuse |
:-) |
08:19 |
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dcook |
These stats are also relative |
08:19 |
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dcook |
This website says Sydney is 17th most expensive, but I've read other articles that say it's the 5th |
08:20 |
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dcook |
And that Vancouver is the most expensive city in Canada, if not North America |
08:20 |
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* dcook |
shrugs |
08:23 |
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magnuse |
yeah, depends on what you measure, i guess |
08:24 |
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magnuse |
i hope we can have kohacon in norway one day, but i'm afraid prices will scare people from coming |
08:25 |
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magnuse |
but i guess we could always just tell people not to buy bottled water in shops... |
08:25 |
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dcook |
hehe |
08:25 |
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dcook |
I would love to have a Kohacon in Norway! |
08:26 |
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dcook |
I imagine that prices might scare people though :/ |
08:26 |
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dcook |
Not sure |
08:26 |
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dcook |
But, I should be running |
08:26 |
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dcook |
Great talking as always :) |
08:26 |
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dcook |
Take care! |
08:26 |
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magnuse |
enjoy your movie dcook |
08:26 |
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magnuse |
gah, he's so quick... |
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08:53 |
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magnuse |
moin drojf |
08:53 |
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drojf |
hei magnuse |
08:53 |
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drojf |
and #koha |
08:58 |
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rangi |
hi magnuse and drojf |
08:59 |
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magnuse |
kia ora rangi |
08:59 |
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drojf |
hi rangi |
08:59 |
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magnuse |
MARC::Doc::Tutorial++ |
09:01 |
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09:07 |
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drojf |
149 bugs need signoff again? you people work too much |
09:10 |
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* magnuse |
agrees :-) |
09:10 |
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magnuse |
good thing next gbsd is in less than 2 weeks |
09:10 |
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magnuse |
next gbsd? |
09:10 |
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wahanui |
i think next gbsd is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]bug_squashing_day |
09:10 |
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drojf |
:) |
09:11 |
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magnuse |
but we do need to get more people squashing bugs |
09:11 |
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drojf |
i just wanted to say, it would be cool if more than ~3 people attend next time ;) |
09:11 |
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magnuse |
yup |
09:11 |
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rangi |
heh |
09:12 |
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rangi |
i did what i could |
09:12 |
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drojf |
i accidentally did 1/4 of the signoffs and i did not have time to take part really :D |
09:12 |
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magnuse |
will there be anything for potential new squashers at kohacon13? |
09:12 |
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rangi |
yep |
09:13 |
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rangi |
i think i did 9 |
09:13 |
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rangi |
but yeah there will always be some waiting |
09:13 |
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rangi |
probably 150 unimarc ones by then |
09:13 |
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drojf |
lol |
09:14 |
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drojf |
i think we should drop unimarc support :P |
09:14 |
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magnuse |
hehe |
09:14 |
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drojf |
well, marc support in general, but unimarc is a start :D |
09:14 |
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magnuse |
yeah, let's do it while everyone at biblibre is on holiday :-) |
09:16 |
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drojf |
;) |
09:17 |
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rangi |
magnuse: how feasible is it to convert marc2rdf on the fly |
09:17 |
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rangi |
? |
09:18 |
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magnuse |
depends on what you mean by fly, of course, but it shouldn't be a big problem |
09:18 |
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rangi |
like if i made an opac-rdf.pl page, gave it a marcxml blob |
09:18 |
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rangi |
could it convert it fast enough to render in reasonable time for a user? |
09:18 |
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magnuse |
yeah, i don't think that should be a problem |
09:18 |
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rangi |
(actually id probably do it with a tt plugin) |
09:19 |
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rangi |
[% marcxml | marc2rdf %] |
09:19 |
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rangi |
that would be pretty sweet |
09:19 |
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magnuse |
yup! |
09:19 |
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rangi |
cool |
09:20 |
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magnuse |
the big question is how you do the transformation |
09:20 |
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rangi |
http://www.getty.edu/research/[…]vocabularies/lod/ |
09:20 |
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rangi |
basically i want to be able to make use of this when its ready |
09:20 |
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rangi |
magnuse: yeah |
09:21 |
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magnuse |
another question is how useful it is to have "save as rdf" option... |
09:21 |
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magnuse |
s/have/have a/ |
09:22 |
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rangi |
i think that would be useful |
09:22 |
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rangi |
but more useful, would be able to do |
09:22 |
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rangi |
/svc/rdf/biblionumber |
09:22 |
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rangi |
ie, a nice restful api to hand out any given biblio as rdf |
09:23 |
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magnuse |
what are you going to do with the rdf? |
09:23 |
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rangi |
havent got that far yet |
09:23 |
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magnuse |
hehe :-) |
09:23 |
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rangi |
but if we allow for anyone to be able to get rdf out of a koha library |
09:23 |
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magnuse |
my preferred workflow is described here: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]a_RFC#First_steps |
09:23 |
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rangi |
then smart people can ingest it and use it |
09:24 |
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magnuse |
that is true! |
09:24 |
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magnuse |
it's based on a lot of effort put into this at the Oslo Public Library |
09:24 |
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rangi |
*nod* |
09:24 |
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magnuse |
and especially this tool: https://github.com/digibib/marc2rdf |
09:25 |
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magnuse |
(which is written in ruby and which i am having some trouble getting to run at the moment...) |
09:25 |
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rangi |
yep im thinking i might have to port it to perl |
09:25 |
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drojf |
yay |
09:25 |
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magnuse |
that would be awesome! |
09:25 |
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rangi |
http://www.oeg-upm.net/index.p[…]ogies/228-marimba |
09:26 |
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rangi |
there's also this |
09:26 |
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* magnuse |
would be glad to help |
09:26 |
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rangi |
but thats java |
09:26 |
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* magnuse |
shivers |
09:27 |
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magnuse |
ooh, hadn't seen marimba |
09:27 |
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rangi |
marc2rdf uses some perl already |
09:27 |
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rangi |
and marc::record |
09:27 |
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wahanui |
i think marc::record is http://search.cpan.org/~gmchar[…]ib/MARC/Record.pm |
09:27 |
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rangi |
and ill skip all the web frontend stuffs |
09:27 |
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magnuse |
yeah, for some data cleaning |
09:28 |
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magnuse |
yeah, that makes sense, i think |
09:28 |
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magnuse |
the central part of the transformation process should not be too hard to port |
09:28 |
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magnuse |
it's based on a config file, so it's just a matter of walking through the config and the record and doing the right steps |
09:29 |
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rangi |
thats what im hoping |
09:29 |
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rangi |
https://github.com/digibib/mar[…]aster/marc2rdf.rb |
09:29 |
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rangi |
seems to be the main control |
09:29 |
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rangi |
and rdfmodeler.rb |
09:30 |
|
rangi |
the main library |
09:30 |
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rangi |
theres gotta be a bunch of rdf modules for perl |
09:31 |
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rangi |
http://www.perlrdf.org/ |
09:31 |
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magnuse |
there are |
09:31 |
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magnuse |
i don't think that page has been updated for a while |
09:31 |
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rangi |
yeah |
09:32 |
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magnuse |
there seem to be sevarl things that build on RDF::Trine |
09:32 |
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rangi |
so basically |
09:32 |
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magnuse |
i actually looked around a bit for relevant perl modules the other day |
09:33 |
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rangi |
so the spanish one |
09:33 |
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magnuse |
App::perlrdf looked interesting |
09:33 |
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rangi |
seems to do marc2mods2rdf |
09:34 |
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rangi |
and marc2rdf does marc to yaml to rdf |
09:34 |
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magnuse |
it would be super-cool if a prl implementation could use the same config files as marc2rdf for the mapping, then we could at least collaborate with them on the mapping-work |
09:35 |
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magnuse |
it's been a while since i looked at the internals of marc2rdf |
09:35 |
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magnuse |
i know the mapping/config is stored in yaml |
09:35 |
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rangi |
yeah |
09:36 |
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magnuse |
example mapping: https://github.com/digibib/mar[…]tes/mappings.json |
09:36 |
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rangi |
https://code.google.com/p/code[…]ods2rdf.xslt?r=19 |
09:36 |
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rangi |
so if you can get marc 2 mods |
09:36 |
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rangi |
then you can use xslt to get it to rdf |
09:37 |
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rangi |
that will be why they went that route |
09:37 |
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magnuse |
ah |
09:38 |
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rangi |
tbh, id prefer a yaml mapping |
09:38 |
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rangi |
or json like that |
09:38 |
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rangi |
xslt annoys me |
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rangi |
cool, i have lots of ideas |
09:39 |
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rangi |
now i just need time |
09:39 |
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magnuse |
hehe |
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* magnuse |
sends rangi some time |
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magnuse |
rangi: i started an attempt at re-doing marc2rdf in perl a while back: https://github.com/MagnusEnger/marc2rdf it might be more confusing than helpful, though... |
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magnuse |
gah, i used RDF::Redland, which seems not to have been updated since 2006 |
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rangi |
:) |
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rangi |
its a start |
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rangi |
its always good to read what others have done |
09:55 |
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magnuse |
last week i worked on an absolutely minimal poc semantikoha |
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magnuse |
just a way to query a triplestore and show the results in the opac |
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rangi |
ah awesome |
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magnuse |
https://github.com/MagnusEnger[…]ommits/linkeddata |
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magnuse |
i hope to have something useful this week |
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magnuse |
then i'll submit it as an "experimental feature" and see what heppens ;-) |
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rangi |
sweet :) |
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magnuse |
or next week - it's a "lunch project" |
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rangi |
yeah |
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rangi |
lunch projects are usually the best features |
10:06 |
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magnuse |
hehe |
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jcamins |
rangi: I think there's a MARC2RDF stylesheet from someone on Code4lib, actually. |
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rangi |
cool jcamins id be interested to take a look |
10:08 |
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rangi |
who has an android phone? |
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rangi |
https://www.google.com/android/devicemanager <-- tried that? |
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drojf |
later |
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jcamins |
There's also a Perl-only script from Cambridge. |
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jcamins |
And each record takes about 0.015 seconds with it. |
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jcamins |
http://data.lib.cam.ac.uk/code.php |
10:10 |
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rangi |
sweet i can live with that |
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rangi |
thanks jcamins |
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jcamins |
Actually, I should make an RDF ingester. I think Titan can actually load RDF directly, which would be very convenient. |
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magnuse |
https://github.com/edchamberla[…]master/conversion looks interesting |
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* rangi |
heads to sleep |
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jcamins |
magnuse: do you have any screenshots of your work? |
10:20 |
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magnuse |
jcamins: nope, not yet |
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magnuse |
ad the idea is to make it very configurable, so there will be little to see out of the box |
10:21 |
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jcamins |
Yeah, but I see you added a template and I can't figure out what it displays. |
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magnuse |
it evals a template that is fetched from the triplestore |
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magnuse |
which in turn evals any number of other templates, also from the triplestore |
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jcamins |
So you're storing TT in the triplestore? |
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magnuse |
yup |
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magnuse |
not sure it's a good idea, but the goal is to hardcode as little as possible |
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* magnuse |
needs lunch |
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* magnuse |
found lunch and devoured it |
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jcamins |
Yay! |
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jcamins |
What was lunch? |
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magnuse |
same old |
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magnuse |
two pieces of bread |
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magnuse |
one with pickled herring and one with cheese |
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magnuse |
typical norwegian lunch |
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magnuse |
(don't be fooled by the "smørgåsbord" you will get at hotels etc :-) |
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magnuse |
the cheese was http://www.himmelspannet.no/sc[…]NOK&initList=MIT1|517002|MIT2|517011|IdTbl||IdNoTbl|0|IdNoDoc||initListCC|bEnadjejchobvlfU - very nice, but a little too ripe |
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magnuse |
wow, strong contender for the prize of "ugliest URL" |
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jcamins |
Hehe. Yes it is. |
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drojf |
hello again ;) |
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magnuse |
moinagain drojf |
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drojf |
heiagain magnuse :D |
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magnuse |
:-) |
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drojf |
have you and rangi fixed marc2rdf? |
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drojf |
are we there yet? |
11:40 |
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drojf |
;) |
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drojf |
or should we start with marc2rda? :D |
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magnuse |
lol |
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magnuse |
stay tuned... |
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oleonard |
Hey #koha |
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drojf |
hi oleonard |
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oleonard |
Joubu: Regarding Bug 10649, my intention isn't to duplicate files in the long term, just during the transition period while I submit patches updating all the affected pages |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10649 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Upgrade DataTables and move scripts out of theme directory |
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Joubu |
oleonard: Hi! Yes, it is what I understood. But is not it more interesting to move the 2 js files and change the paths in tt file on a different bug? |
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tcohen |
morning #koha |
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drojf |
hi tcohen |
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tcohen |
vacation drojf? |
12:39 |
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drojf |
not really, why? |
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tcohen |
i just thought every1 was on vacation in europ |
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tcohen |
e |
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drojf |
everyone but me :/ |
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tcohen |
hmm |
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magnuse |
and me |
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sophie_m |
and me :-) |
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jcamins |
If I were in Europe I'd be on vacation. |
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* jcamins |
wishes he were in Europe. |
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* oleonard |
too |
12:59 |
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oleonard |
Boy the catalogers here are in a heckuva tizzy about RDA. |
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jcamins |
oleonard: who can blame them? They have to learn absurd new standards to produce records that will be of less use to anyone. |
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oleonard |
Are any of the big ILS companies modifying their systems to use RDA? |
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oleonard |
Or is RDA just a different way of making MARC records for all intents and purposes? |
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jcamins |
The latter. |
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oleonard |
Is there some ideal future in which RDA records enable computerized systems to work better because the data is more computer-friendly? |
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druthb |
only in science fiction, oleonard. |
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oleonard |
So uh... What is the point? |
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jcamins |
No, RDA will make things worse. |
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oleonard |
So this oncoming RDA train is going to crash into our cataloging department and cause chaos and misery with no benefit?! |
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jcamins |
Right. |
13:06 |
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jcamins |
Well... |
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jcamins |
I suppose the RDA committee gets to look good for coming up with a new standard? |
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drojf |
also, money |
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druthb |
drojf! |
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wahanui |
i think drojf is from Germany and developing Koha on a raspberry pi! |
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druthb |
o/ |
13:08 |
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drojf |
druthb! :) |
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oleonard |
Why are my catalogers always bringing up FRBR and RDA in the same breath? Is that correct? |
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jcamins |
Because the justification for RDA was FRBR. |
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drojf |
that sounds like a 'but' |
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jcamins |
Well, FRBR is a profoundly badly designed "framework" that is unlikely to actually work, and it's unclear how RDA is supposed to actually help. |
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* oleonard |
stages a bloody coup to install jcamins as King of World Cataloging |
13:12 |
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* jcamins |
is all for that. |
13:13 |
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* drojf |
approves |
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druthb |
+1 |
13:13 |
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jcamins |
First thing we do, let's kill all the MARC. |
13:13 |
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druthb |
I'm all for it, even if jcamins and I disagree somewhat on the value of FRBR. I see it as a teeny step in the right general direction—away from MARC. |
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oleonard |
Maybe we should just revert to Koha 1.0 and start over? |
13:15 |
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* druthb |
shudders |
13:16 |
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drojf |
back to the card catalog. with cards everyone writes as they please |
13:16 |
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drojf |
you got a save job if you are the only person that understands the system :) |
13:17 |
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druthb |
Shelve books by color. Or height. Or height within color; that'd make a pretty pattern. |
13:17 |
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drojf |
aaaw i like it :) |
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druthb |
*IF* the FRBR framework could be more-or-less implemented—and that itself is a pretty shady proposition—then you *could* do some fairly interesting deep-linking of information that patrons might find useful for exploration. But not with our current cataloging practice of "every cataloger for themself." You'd need some kind of jumbo repository to get a whole lot of value. |
13:19 |
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druthb |
And OCLC is proof of how well *that* works. Bah. |
13:20 |
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druthb |
All that RDA really does is give a checkbox on the Buzzword Bingo card, while preserving the really lame status quo. |
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jcamins |
I disagree. Every cataloger for themself is not the problem. The problem is lack of relationship representation, and no amount of centralization is going to address the underlying issue, FRBR notwithstanding. |
13:21 |
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jcamins |
Oh, BTW, the difference between groups 2 and 3 was explained to me over the weekend. |
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druthb |
oh? |
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jcamins |
The reason they're different is because NACO and SACO are different. |
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druthb |
But of course. |
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* druthb |
shakes her head. |
13:23 |
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jcamins |
Which, depending on your way of looking at things, was started in 1902 or 1977. |
13:24 |
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magnuse |
bottom line: MARC sucks because it's all just text (as in fiction) - no useful identifiers, no useful relationships |
13:24 |
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* druthb |
waves to magnuse, and offers a cookie |
13:27 |
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* magnuse |
accepts the cookie and waves back |
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* magnuse |
figures out he has wasted half a day because of occasional trailing whitespace in 001 |
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drojf |
isn't there a song about that? "kill all the whitespace" or something |
13:39 |
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druthb |
"or something." |
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drojf |
why yes, 40KB/s is more than enough wifi bandwidth. thanks for asking, university wifi. |
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oleonard |
What do you expect from that poor 56K modem anyway? |
13:41 |
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drojf |
it's 60 now. ISDN? :D |
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* drojf |
should have snickerses |
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oleonard |
XSLT needs a different image to represent "Three-dimensional artifact or naturally occurring object" The "filmstrip" one doesn't quite fit :P |
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oleonard |
http://search.myacpl.org/cgi-b[…]blionumber=288318 |
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druthb |
picture of a moon rock? |
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* druthb |
switches to MARC view, out of morbid curiosity. |
13:45 |
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oleonard |
I'm going through the famfamfam icons looking for something appropriate. A car? A cell phone? A football? |
13:47 |
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oleonard |
Oh, maybe a Lego? |
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druthb |
That'd work! |
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tomas_ |
does anyone know what is "returndate" used fr in the items table? (i'd understand for old_issues) |
13:52 |
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tomas_ |
maybe renewals¿ |
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jcamins |
I think just return date, so it should always be empty. |
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jcamins |
But oldissues and issues need to have the same structure. |
13:54 |
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jcamins |
Wait. |
13:54 |
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jcamins |
You said items not issues. |
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jcamins |
Not sure. |
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tomas_ |
i meant issues jcamins :-D |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10712: Save missing config variables to install log <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0ece80a61a69ccc50> |
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oleonard |
Oh there's already a bug for that realia icon thing: Bug 9706 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9706 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , xslt icon for artifacts isn't quite right |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10614 - have add order form at top and bottom <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8ccc13329f20eeefc> |
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jenkins_koha |
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jenkins_koha |
* Sophie Meynieux: Bug 10127 : Printoverdues.sh should tar only pdf files |
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* Katrin Fischer: Bug 10563: Fix broken 'Edit' link on check expiration page |
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jenkins_koha |
* Chris Hall: bug10246 adding OPAC details items table classes |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10127 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Printoverdues.sh should tar only pdf files |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10563 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Link to edit subscription from 'check expiraton' page is broken |
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magnuse |
@later tell rangi: feel free to adopt/adapt bug 7236 if you like! |
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huginn |
magnuse: The operation succeeded. |
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gmcharlt |
tcohen: does koha-create now require /bin/bash rather than /bin/sh (which typically is a symlink to /bin/dash or /bin/bash)? |
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gmcharlt |
tcohen: nevermind, I've convinced myself that the Debian policy doesn't care |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8507: (follow-up) fix one reference to __ZEBRA_BIBLIOS_CFG__ <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8a6c0e7047f1e0df5> / Bug 8507: koha-create now supports using DOM indexing for bibs <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7b100f8913074835a> |
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oleonard |
If we add an icon specifically for 'Three-dimensional artifact or naturally occurring object' should that be the corresponding label? Or is there a more succinct label we could use? |
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jcamins |
The succinct label is "realia." |
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jcamins |
I'm not sure that's an improvement. |
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oleonard |
No one knows that word outside of the world's cataloging dungeons |
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oleonard |
(first order ob business after jcamins becomes King of Cataloging, institute mandatory cataloging dungeons) |
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jcamins |
Agreed. |
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jenkins_koha |
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jenkins_koha |
* Colin Campbell: Bug 10712: Save missing config variables to install log |
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jenkins_koha |
* Owen Leonard: Bug 10614 - have add order form at top and bottom |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10712 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Some values not saved in koha install log |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10614 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , have add order form at top and bottom |
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jenkins_koha |
Yippie, build fixed! |
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* Colin Campbell: Bug 10712: Save missing config variables to install log |
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jenkins_koha |
* Owen Leonard: Bug 10614 - have add order form at top and bottom |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10712 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Some values not saved in koha install log |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10614 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , have add order form at top and bottom |
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jenkins_koha |
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* Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 8507: koha-create now supports using DOM indexing for bibs |
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* Mirko Tietgen: Bug 8507: (follow-up) fix one reference to __ZEBRA_BIBLIOS_CFG__ |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8507 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , koha-create should be updated to use DOM indexing for bib |
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oleonard |
If I have IndependentBranches enabled shouldn't I be prevented from checking out an item from Branch A to a patron at Branch B? |
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oleonard |
Oh never mind, I superlibrarianed my staff account. |
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tcohen |
hi gmcharlt |
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gmcharlt |
hi tcohen |
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tcohen |
do u want me to fix the shell thing? |
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gmcharlt |
I don't think it's worth bothering with (unless we think there are non-Debian platforms that would use the control scripts that don't have bash) |
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tcohen |
which we should start thinking of |
16:13 |
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gmcharlt |
indeed |
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tcohen |
ok, i'll check and maybe fill a new bug |
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gmcharlt |
but I can't think of any off the top of my head that wouldn't have /bin/bash |
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tcohen |
rangi said he uses csh |
16:14 |
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tcohen |
but i guess he has bash installed |
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tcohen |
ok, next in the queue: memcached for packages |
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tcohen |
oleonard: would u use jqplot for a circulation statistics dashboard |
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tcohen |
? |
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oleonard |
tcohen: I'm not familiar with the options tcohen so I don't have an opinion. |
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oleonard |
IndependentBranches is weird. Why am I blocked from checking out an item from another branch, but not blocked from checking out to a patron from another branch? |
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oleonard |
Why do my patron searches not return patrons from other branches, but I'm not prevented from viewing or checking out to patrons from other branches (given their card number or borrowernumber) |
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oleonard |
Are the users of the IndependentBranches setting simply accustomed to it working imperfectly? |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7785: (follow-up) standardize POD <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]148a217d738236d7e> / Bug 7785: remove MySQL-specific syntax from C4::Members::columns() <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0fa1e3f5b8bffcff3> |
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tcohen |
gmcharlt: would bug 10549 break stuff for some people using stable? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10549 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Pushed to Master , ILS-DI should not use ISO-8851-9 encoding |
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tcohen |
(i mean, if pushing would break) |
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oleonard |
Wasted effort: attaching a patch that isn't a patch, for an out of date version, and not setting the bug to 'needs signoff.' Bug 8474 you are a disaster. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8474 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Holds done by librarians cause silent errors in koha-error_log |
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gmcharlt |
tcohen: I doubt it, assuming that the ILS-DI clients are parsing the XML responses correctly |
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ok |
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* Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 8507: koha-create now supports using DOM indexing for bibs |
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* Mirko Tietgen: Bug 8507: (follow-up) fix one reference to __ZEBRA_BIBLIOS_CFG__ |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8507 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , koha-create should be updated to use DOM indexing for bib |
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tcohen |
oops |
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Project master_maria build #37: STILL UNSTABLE in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/master_maria/37/ |
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* Mark Tompsett: Bug 7785: remove MySQL-specific syntax from C4::Members::columns() |
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* Galen Charlton: Bug 7785: (follow-up) standardize POD |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7785 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , MySQL-specific syntax in C4::Members columns() |
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ooh, we have a master_maria? |
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* Mark Tompsett: Bug 7785: remove MySQL-specific syntax from C4::Members::columns() |
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* Galen Charlton: Bug 7785: (follow-up) standardize POD |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7785 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , MySQL-specific syntax in C4::Members columns() |
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Project Koha_3.12.x build #79: SUCCESS in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.12.x/79/ |
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* Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 9362: fix query that finds upcoming due loans |
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* David Cook: Bug 10541: enable cross-browser AJAX in additem.js |
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* Jonathan Druart: Bug 10515: make behavior of library category fetchers consistent with other fetchers |
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* Galen Charlton: Bug 10515: add regression tests |
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* Galen Charlton: Bug 10515: (follow-up) fix use of GetBranchCategories |
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* Mirko Tietgen: bug 10549: make the ILS-DI services advertise that they return UTF-8 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9362 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Wrong query in GetUpcomingDueIssues (Circulation.pm) |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10541 major, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , Enable cross-browser AJAX in additem.js |
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* Galen Charlton: Bug 10549: (follow-up) make sure ILS-DI GetAvailability response is emitted as UTF-8 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10515 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , The prototype for GetBranchCategory and GetBranchCategories is not consistent |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10549 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Pushed to Stable , ILS-DI should not use ISO-8851-9 encoding |
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oleonard |
Just saw a bug report that had 55 votes! Why isn't it fixed yet?!! |
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gmcharlt |
a very poor exchange rate between votes and tuits? |
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gmcharlt |
which one, out of curiosity? |
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oleonard |
Bug 5316 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5316 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Limit Z39.50 targets to specific users |
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oleonard |
It's assigned to you gmcharlt, so I guess you're to blame! |
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* gmcharlt |
dies of shame |
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gmcharlt |
... not |
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* druthb |
chucks skittles at oleonard. |
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druthb |
No cookies for you! |
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oleonard |
Yeah, killing the RM is very bad form. |
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gmcharlt |
I'll say! |
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gmcharlt |
;) |
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rangi |
tcohen: zsh, not csh |
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tcohen |
:-D |
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tcohen |
hi rangi |
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rangi |
hiya |
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tcohen |
dolphin |
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tcohen |
booked yesterday :-D |
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gmcharlt |
rangi: thanks for clarifying that, my raised eyebrow needed a rest! ;) |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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mtompset |
Quick question, should there ever be a sth->finish() call made in the koha code? |
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oleonard |
Only at the very very end of Koha. |
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mtompset |
I was looking at a git diff origin/master on one of my branches, and noticed a whole bunch of sth->finish()'s added to C4::Classsource |
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tcohen |
but not in a class file right? |
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mtompset |
ClassSource, sorry. |
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mtompset |
And the prepare's were changed to prepare_cached. What's the difference between the two? |
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gmcharlt |
mtompset: http://search.cpan.org/~timb/D[…]pm#prepare_cached |
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maximep |
cached were changed to prepare, iirc. I think you inversed your diff :p |
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maximep |
and finish removed |
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maximep |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0057df300d9c6b9c3 |
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oleonard |
It'd be nice if Bugzilla had a way of saying that a bug was awaiting the comment of a specific person or persons |
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jenkins_koha |
Yippie, build fixed! |
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Project Koha_master build #1358: FIXED in 1 hr 14 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1358/ |
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rangi |
tcohen: im in dolphin too :) |
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oleonard |
dolphin? |
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wahanui |
dolphin is great :) |
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rangi |
dolphin tower at the hotel for kohacon |
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rangi |
gmcharlt: yeah i like zsh because of the shared history (and for lots of other reasons) |
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gmcharlt |
rangi: sure; I just was ... confused at that thought that you might be using classic csh :) |
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mtompset |
Ah, must have inversed somehow. Okay, my master does have that patch, which ends my confusion. :) |
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mtompset |
maximep++ # thanks for the bug number |
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* druthb |
waves to mtompset. |
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drojf |
damn all you crossposters |
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rangi |
gmcharlt: heh not for a long long time |
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druthb |
cait! |
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cait |
druthb! |
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* druthb |
huggles cait |
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drojf |
druthb! |
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cait |
drojf! |
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druthb |
drojf! :D |
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drojf |
cait! |
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tcohen |
she's back! |
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mtompset |
Greetings, druthb cait drojf rangi gmcharlt maximep oleonard tcohen etc. :) |
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drojf |
is that greeting spam? ^^ |
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drojf |
hi mtompset :P |
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tcohen |
maybe a SEO trick? |
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drojf |
lol |
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mtompset |
drojf: Are you trying to incite a riot against me being polite and acknowledging those who I know are here? :P |
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drojf |
that's what an automatic reply would say :P |
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mtompset |
Would an SEO trick require putting everything in caps, and lower, and mixed, and repeating it in hex, ascii, unicode, and a few other ways? ;) |
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mtompset |
No, because an automatic reply wouldn't be as delayed as I was. |
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drojf |
that's what an delayed automatic reply would say, trying to be clever |
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mtompset |
And an automatic reply would also programme for arguing with %s? ;) |
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drojf |
lol |
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cait |
drojf++ |
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* tcohen |
is amazed watching Koha's history through gource |
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cait |
tcohen: i love that :) |
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drojf |
cait: how's the holiday business going |
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drojf |
? |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
hamburg dungeon check |
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cait |
miniature wonderland check |
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cait |
rocky musical check |
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drojf |
woah |
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drojf |
you've seen everything |
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drojf |
better take a day off :) |
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drojf |
the hamburg dungeon… is like the london dungeon with more hitler? (or less, maybe) |
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cait |
it's a horror thing wiht actors |
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cait |
a little free fall |
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cait |
a bit of water fun |
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cait |
takes 100 minutes - was quite good |
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drojf |
oh, then it's very different |
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drojf |
i only remember the london thing because i found pictures of that a while ago. don't actually remember being in there :D |
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cait |
i would be worreid about that |
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cait |
but i have been in hamburg for work before... and i recognized nothing so... |
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drojf |
see |
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drojf |
:D |
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oleonard |
Hi cait, and bye #koha |
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cait |
bye oleonard... |
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cait |
too slow ... again. |
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kathryn |
morning :) |
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cait |
morning kathryn |
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cait |
:) |
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kathryn |
hi cait :) |
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gmcharlt |
@quote random |
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huginn` |
gmcharlt: Quote #135: "rangi: $tempate->{VARS}->{'LoginBranchname'} - without the typo" (added by cait at 07:30 PM, May 20, 2011) |
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cait |
@quote random |
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huginn` |
cait: Quote #150: "<libsysguy> jcamins is the wizard that forges queries in the deep fires of zebra" (added by wizzyrea at 03:07 PM, August 30, 2011) |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, huginn`. |
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gmcharlt |
must have been funnier in context |
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wizzyrea |
which, the template one? |
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gmcharlt |
yeah |
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wizzyrea |
no I think that was pre wahanui days |
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wizzyrea |
so we wanted to keep that bit of code handy |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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cait |
yeah, just a way to remind myself of that :) |
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gmcharlt |
ah, got it |
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wizzyrea |
@quote random |
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huginn` |
wizzyrea: Quote #73: "<chris_n> owen: try /msg munin identify nick password" (added by owen at 12:38 PM, April 29, 2010) |
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wizzyrea |
^ same deal, actually |
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gmcharlt |
heh |
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rangi |
https://github.com/edchamberla[…]n/marc2rdf_sql.pl |
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wizzyrea |
it's boring quote day! |
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wizzyrea |
oooooo |
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rangi |
this is going to be the basis of |
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gmcharlt |
@quote add <wizzyrea> it's boring quote day! |
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huginn` |
gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. Quote #269 added. |
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rangi |
Koha::MARC2RDF |
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cait |
@quote random |
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huginn` |
cait: Quote #175: "*oleonard is waiting for a good scientist -> hulk patron category transition script" (added by wizzyrea at 03:44 PM, January 04, 2012) |
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wizzyrea |
\o/ |
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wizzyrea |
ok that one was funny |
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rangi |
actually now |
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rangi |
no |
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* jcamins |
laughed. |
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rangi |
https://github.com/edchamberla[…]marc2rdf_batch.pl |
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rangi |
that one |
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wahanui |
i think that one is down more often than up |
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gmcharlt |
*snort* |
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wizzyrea |
some day I'm going to have a reason to git checkout all-the-things |
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wizzyrea |
@quote get random |
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huginn` |
wizzyrea: Error: 'random' is not a valid id. |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, huginn`. |
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wizzyrea |
@quote random |
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huginn` |
wizzyrea: Quote #35: "<sekjal> it seemed like a good idea at the time...." (added by jwagner at 06:58 PM, September 17, 2009) |
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wizzyrea |
doesn't it always |
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gmcharlt |
indeed |
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rambutan |
@seen sekjal |
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huginn` |
rambutan: sekjal was last seen in #koha 14 weeks, 4 days, 8 hours, 13 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: <sekjal> our camera was put up late this year; the eggs were already there when we installed |
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sadface |
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rambutan |
indeed |
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morning #koha |