| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:00 |
|
papa |
umm you may be right... |
| 00:01 |
|
* dcook |
grumbles about the "restricted" column being TINYINT(1) |
| 00:02 |
|
mtompset |
How are you thinking of overloading the restricted column, dcook? ;) |
| 00:02 |
|
dcook |
Psh, not overloading :p |
| 00:03 |
|
dcook |
But using alphanumeric codes rather than just integers |
| 00:03 |
|
mtompset |
ah, increasing the 0-9 to 0-9A-Za-z? |
| 00:03 |
|
papa |
hey mtompset, how about we put return () unless $biblionumber ) in GetItemsInfo()? |
| 00:03 |
|
dcook |
Well, that's one way |
| 00:04 |
|
dcook |
I was thinking of having longer codes |
| 00:05 |
|
mtompset |
The patch is to hide biblios, not optimize underlying functions. ;) |
| 00:05 |
|
papa |
ok, you win... |
| 00:05 |
|
dcook |
Ugh...apparently using codes other than a single integer works up until you try to give it to an item then it fails silently... |
| 00:06 |
|
mtompset |
Though, I agree the underlying functions could be optimized. :) |
| 00:06 |
|
mtompset |
Yuck. Failing silently is bad. |
| 00:08 |
|
mtompset |
To be honest, papa, I was considering writing a simpler function into C4::Items, but that would require testing modules, and Lord help me... I got scared when I started to try to make sense of the C4::Items.pm tests in the ./t directory. |
| 00:08 |
|
dcook |
Maybe I should use item type rather than use restriction... |
| 00:08 |
|
wizzyrea |
. |
| 00:08 |
|
wizzyrea |
ow. |
| 00:09 |
|
wizzyrea |
i just accidentally punched my keyboard |
| 00:09 |
|
dcook |
wizzyrea: Ouch |
| 00:09 |
|
dcook |
I accidentally punched...two things this morning |
| 00:09 |
|
mtompset |
as long as it wasn't with your face, you'lll survive. ;) |
| 00:09 |
|
* dcook |
looks at the small scab on his knuckle |
| 00:09 |
|
papa |
mtompset: I know the feeling |
| 00:11 |
|
mtompset |
BTW, wizzyrea, how do you accidentally punch a keyboard? Hit it with your hand during a body turn or something? |
| 00:13 |
|
wizzyrea |
well I was reaching for a pen behind my keyboard |
| 00:13 |
|
* dcook |
imagines hulk liz |
| 00:13 |
|
wizzyrea |
but missed it by a loooong shot |
| 00:13 |
|
dcook |
Liz smash! |
| 00:13 |
|
wizzyrea |
lol. |
| 00:14 |
|
* dcook |
can't recall what he hit this morning or why |
| 00:14 |
|
dcook |
I just remember being really frustrated when I punched the second thing (possibly the faucet) |
| 00:14 |
|
wizzyrea |
i got attacked by a stucco wall the other day |
| 00:14 |
|
dcook |
The walls are closing in, eh? |
| 00:16 |
|
mtompset |
http://youtu.be/YZdEHtccpiE (How to punch a keyboard) |
| 00:16 |
|
mtompset |
It's so lame, it is funny. |
| 00:54 |
|
dcook |
All right, XSL. You're doing my head in a bit right now... |
| 00:57 |
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| 00:58 |
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mtompset |
Welcome back, wizzyrea. :) |
| 00:59 |
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| 01:03 |
|
mtompset |
Thanks, papa, for the sign off. It prevents data mining. :) |
| 01:07 |
|
mtompset |
drojf is working on a similar, but different patch for OpacSuppression. |
| 01:18 |
|
* dcook |
looks at what day it is |
| 01:19 |
|
dcook |
I hate Thursday :@ |
| 01:19 |
|
dcook |
Well, hate might be too strong a word |
| 01:20 |
|
dcook |
Items.pm should be exporting "GetItemnumberFromBarcode"... |
| 01:21 |
|
dcook |
Maybe this is just a bad error message.. |
| 01:25 |
|
mtompset |
You had to look up today's name to hate it?! |
| 01:25 |
|
dcook |
Well, everyone already hates Mondays and Wednesdays |
| 01:25 |
|
mtompset |
Are you sure about Wednesdays? |
| 01:26 |
|
dcook |
Aha! |
| 01:26 |
|
dcook |
Figured it out |
| 01:26 |
|
dcook |
Damned backup files... |
| 01:27 |
|
mtompset |
I thought it was Thursdays that should be damned. :P |
| 01:30 |
|
* wizzyrea |
whispers "git......" |
| 01:33 |
|
dcook |
Gitwhisperer? |
| 01:34 |
|
dcook |
While we develop with Git, we deploy via other means that generate their own backups |
| 01:34 |
|
dcook |
I could probably turn those off... |
| 01:36 |
|
dcook |
Apparently, Perl doesn't like it when you have a Circulation.pm and a Circulation.pm.bak file |
| 01:47 |
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| 02:02 |
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mtompset |
I bet if you change the package line in the .bak version, it wouldn't care so much, dcook. ;) |
| 02:08 |
|
wizzyrea |
it's all so cloak and dagger! |
| 02:09 |
|
jcamins |
Oh, the support page still points to mibbit. |
| 02:11 |
|
wizzyrea |
now I'm really confused. |
| 02:11 |
|
jcamins |
We apparently have links to IRC in two places. |
| 02:11 |
|
jcamins |
Confusing. |
| 02:11 |
|
wizzyrea |
naw, useful. |
| 02:11 |
|
wizzyrea |
the two i've found though both point to mibbit. I could have SWORN I fixed that. |
| 02:11 |
|
jcamins |
Sure, except the link is bad on one. |
| 02:12 |
|
jcamins |
Three cases, then. |
| 02:12 |
|
wizzyrea |
http://koha-community.org/get-involved/irc/ |
| 02:12 |
|
wizzyrea |
oftc has blocked mibbit, full stop. |
| 02:13 |
|
jcamins |
I followed a link ot OFTC webchat which doesn't work behind proxies or firewalls. |
| 02:13 |
|
jcamins |
wizzyrea: yeah, but there's a link to the OFTC web client somewhere, 'cause that's what I used yesterday. |
| 02:13 |
|
wizzyrea |
it's on that page I just linked |
| 02:14 |
|
jcamins |
Oh. Right. :) |
| 02:14 |
|
* jcamins |
is exhausted. |
| 02:16 |
|
wizzyrea |
well poo now I can't find the third place. |
| 02:16 |
|
wizzyrea |
i think there were only two |
| 02:17 |
|
jcamins |
No, there were probably only two. |
| 02:17 |
|
jcamins |
I thought you were saying both had the wrong link. |
| 02:19 |
|
wizzyrea |
ok, well I've changed every IRC link I found to point to the get-involved/irc one |
| 02:19 |
|
wizzyrea |
and that points to oftc. |
| 02:20 |
|
jcamins |
Thanks. |
| 02:23 |
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| 02:23 |
|
jcamins |
And, one last change: could you add a link to kiwiirc? https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.oftc.net/#koha |
| 02:33 |
|
dcook |
Oh yes! |
| 02:34 |
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| 02:35 |
|
jcamins |
Yes? |
| 02:35 |
|
dcook |
Well, maybe |
| 02:35 |
|
dcook |
Still trying to figure out that "Copies available for..." issue from yesterday |
| 02:35 |
|
dcook |
At first, I was annoyed because "restricted" in the items table of the DB is TINYINT(1) |
| 02:36 |
|
dcook |
However, XSLT.pm grabs the authorized value descriptions, so the actual code is irrelevant |
| 02:36 |
|
jcamins |
Yeah. |
| 02:36 |
|
dcook |
I would still need to be using magic...but I could still use that field if I want to |
| 02:36 |
|
dcook |
Which might work fine for "photocopy only" |
| 02:36 |
|
dcook |
But for "Copies available electronically..." |
| 02:37 |
|
dcook |
I suppose a person could use the uri field... |
| 02:38 |
|
dcook |
But that isn't foolproof either |
| 02:38 |
|
dcook |
As you might have ebook items without urls |
| 02:38 |
|
dcook |
Which rely on a record's 856 |
| 02:40 |
|
dcook |
I suppose the magic use restriction could still work.. |
| 02:41 |
|
dcook |
Not ideal or perfect but functional |
| 02:42 |
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| 02:58 |
|
mtompset |
Well, tomorrow is the weigh-in. *sigh* Not looking forward to it. Didn't have a good two weeks. Better get some sleep. |
| 02:58 |
|
mtompset |
Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha. |
| 03:33 |
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| 03:34 |
|
* Oak |
waves |
| 03:51 |
|
dcook |
Note to self: Do not carry (empty) 8 foot tall bookshelves with one hand... |
| 04:02 |
|
bag |
unless you are the Rock |
| 04:02 |
|
* dcook |
checks with self |
| 04:02 |
|
dcook |
Consensus is that I'm not the Rock ;) |
| 04:21 |
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| 04:33 |
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| 04:34 |
|
zebran00b |
Can't seem to get any automated email services working with Koha 3.12 or find instructions about email server set up in documentation. Can anyone point me in the right direction? |
| 04:35 |
|
wizzyrea |
the first question? |
| 04:35 |
|
wahanui |
"What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?" |
| 04:35 |
|
wizzyrea |
specifically? |
| 04:35 |
|
wizzyrea |
besides "send email" |
| 04:37 |
|
zebran00b |
So for example, when a patron creates a list and clicks "send list" they get an error message "Problem sending the list..." |
| 04:37 |
|
zebran00b |
when new patrons are created, even though system preferences are set so new patrons receive an email notification about their new account, it never goes out |
| 04:38 |
|
zebran00b |
There's a system pref for entering the email address to appear in the "From:" field, but I can't find any instructions for how Koha has access to that account in the first place. |
| 04:38 |
|
wizzyrea |
there is no account. |
| 04:39 |
|
zebran00b |
that's what I thought, but I'm wondering if its looking for email settings or packages that aren't there. |
| 04:39 |
|
wizzyrea |
did you install with packages? |
| 04:39 |
|
zebran00b |
yes |
| 04:39 |
|
zebran00b |
about a month ago, so fairly new build |
| 04:40 |
|
wizzyrea |
did you do a koha-email-enable instance? |
| 04:40 |
|
zebran00b |
yup |
| 04:40 |
|
wizzyrea |
and do you have things in your mailq? |
| 04:41 |
|
wizzyrea |
does your maillog tell you anything? |
| 04:41 |
|
zebran00b |
hang on, I'll check |
| 04:41 |
|
wizzyrea |
i'll be straight - usually it just works. |
| 04:42 |
|
zebran00b |
that's what I'm afraid of, its suppose to just be working |
| 04:42 |
|
wizzyrea |
:/ |
| 04:43 |
|
wizzyrea |
could it be that a firewall is blocking the outgoing mail? |
| 04:43 |
|
wizzyrea |
because if outgoing mail is working from a linux server, Koha just works. |
| 04:44 |
|
wizzyrea |
so I'd investigate ways to troubleshoot *that* problem. |
| 04:44 |
|
zebran00b |
interesting, mailq says it sent out the sorts of msgs I'd expect in May, June, but not the past week |
| 04:45 |
|
zebran00b |
many are from <root debian.debian> to <rootdebian.debian> |
| 04:45 |
|
wizzyrea |
yep, if you don't fill in the admin email it will grab the address from the system |
| 04:46 |
|
zebran00b |
but in the to: field as well? |
| 04:46 |
|
wizzyrea |
cron mail? |
| 04:47 |
|
zebran00b |
I suppose |
| 04:47 |
|
wizzyrea |
anyway, sorry have to run :/ |
| 04:47 |
|
wizzyrea |
gl |
| 04:49 |
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zebran00b |
thx |
| 04:54 |
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| 05:12 |
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rangi |
oh wow the colombian national library using koha now too |
| 05:13 |
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dcook |
w00t! |
| 05:16 |
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rangi |
so thats malawi, venezuala, colombia, hmm i know there are a couple more but i cant remember |
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cait |
good morning #koha |
| 05:48 |
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dcook |
hey ya cait :) |
| 05:48 |
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cait |
hi dcook |
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| 06:04 |
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cait |
papa++ |
| 06:04 |
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cait |
lots of sign-offs! |
| 06:10 |
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dcook |
papa++ |
| 06:11 |
|
dcook |
Making the rest of us look bad ;) |
| 06:12 |
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dcook |
@wunder konstanz |
| 06:12 |
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huginn` |
dcook: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 20.0°C (8:00 AM CEST on July 18, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1019 hPa (Rising). |
| 06:12 |
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dcook |
@wunder sydney, australia |
| 06:12 |
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huginn` |
dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 20.0°C (4:00 PM EST on July 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:12 |
|
dcook |
... |
| 06:12 |
|
dcook |
Interesting |
| 06:12 |
|
wahanui |
Interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 06:13 |
|
* dcook |
should get a t-shirt with that quote and an attribution to wahanui |
| 06:14 |
|
* dcook |
wishes that he knew unimarc if only for the sake of testing... |
| 06:16 |
|
dcook |
cait, rangi: Any tips for testing bug 10535? |
| 06:16 |
|
huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10535 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Needs Signoff , by default sort funds by name |
| 06:17 |
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dcook |
I haven't done much with unit tests... |
| 06:18 |
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cait |
hm let me see |
| 06:19 |
|
dcook |
prove TEST.t |
| 06:19 |
|
dcook |
? |
| 06:19 |
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cait |
just run prove or perl t/db... |
| 06:19 |
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cait |
the amount of output it gives you varies, prove is less, perl is more |
| 06:21 |
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dcook |
So... |
| 06:21 |
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dcook |
prove Budget.t |
| 06:21 |
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dcook |
vs perl t/db_dependent/Budget.t? |
| 06:21 |
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dcook |
Aren't those different tests? |
| 06:22 |
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cait |
there are 2 Budget.t files? |
| 06:22 |
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dcook |
Apparently |
| 06:22 |
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dcook |
I think I understand now. |
| 06:22 |
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dcook |
Thanks, cait :) |
| 06:22 |
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cait |
oh good :) |
| 06:22 |
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dcook |
I'm going to test a patch or two even if it kills me |
| 06:22 |
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dcook |
Well...maybe not quite |
| 06:23 |
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cait |
hm i fit kills you that will harm us long term, so better stop in time |
| 06:24 |
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dcook |
My thoughts exactly :) |
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marcelr |
hi #koha |
| 06:35 |
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cait |
hi marcelr |
| 06:35 |
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cait |
:) |
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dcook |
Huh... |
| 06:43 |
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reiveune |
hello |
| 06:44 |
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dcook |
Hey ya reiveune :) |
| 06:44 |
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reiveune |
dcook \o/ |
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christophe_c |
hello #koha |
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marcelr |
hi christophe_c reiveune dcook and cait |
| 06:52 |
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reiveune |
hi marcelr |
| 06:52 |
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christophe_c |
hello marcelr |
| 06:53 |
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dcook |
Huzzah. Finally tested a patch for July... |
| 06:53 |
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* dcook |
looks for another |
| 06:53 |
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rangi |
hmm if you can afford the license fees for crystal reports, you can afford a koha support compnay |
| 06:53 |
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dcook |
Koha support companies are rather affordable |
| 06:55 |
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cait |
@wunder singen |
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huginn` |
cait: The current temperature in Beggingen, Beggingen, Germany is 24.1°C (8:55 AM CEST on July 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). |
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rangi |
nice |
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dcook |
Interesting...I didn't know that tinyint(1) would actually have quite a large range... |
| 07:19 |
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dcook |
Home time! |
| 07:19 |
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dcook |
night #koha |
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drojf |
good morning #koha |
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drojf |
@wunder berlin, germany |
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huginn` |
drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 24.5°C (9:43 AM CEST on July 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). |
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eythian |
hi |
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wahanui |
hi, eythian |
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eythian |
@wunder bn1 1nb |
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eythian: The current temperature in Brighton, Brighton, United Kingdom is 26.2°C (10:30 AM BST on July 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Falling). |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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mtompset |
Greetings, nengard. |
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nengard |
hello |
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wahanui |
kai ora, nengard |
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khall |
@later tell oleonard is there any particular reason the bootstrap btn classes don't/won't work in Koha? try making a button with the classes btn and btn-primary and you'll see what I mean. |
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huginn` |
khall: The operation succeeded. |
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tcohen |
morning #koha |
| 12:14 |
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marcelr |
hi tcohen |
| 12:14 |
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tcohen |
hi marcelr |
| 12:15 |
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tcohen |
really windy here, my hair is just a revolution taking place |
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marcelr |
;) |
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tcohen |
not that it isn't, normally heh |
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jcamins |
tcohen: my hair is in a permanent state of uprising. |
| 12:16 |
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tcohen |
heh, hi jcamins |
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jcamins |
Leaving for the airport in an hour. |
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tcohen |
have a nice flught jcamins |
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tcohen |
*flight* |
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mtompset |
Greetings, tcohen jcamins marcelr. |
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marcelr |
hi mtompset |
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mtompset |
Where are you going, jcamins? Work related? |
| 12:31 |
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jcamins |
Home. |
| 12:31 |
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jcamins |
I've been in AL training a new medical library. |
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mtj |
hi all |
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mtj |
hey jcamins, would you take a peek at my last comment on bug 8402 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8402 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Failed QA , generate 'install_misc/debian.packages' file from debian/control file |
| 12:38 |
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mtj |
…i recall you saying that you still find those files useful |
| 12:39 |
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mtj |
or, now that we have the packages mostly sorted - are they all redundant? |
| 12:39 |
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jcamins |
I don't find them particularly useful, but they serve a very different purpose than a package from Koha's apt repo. |
| 12:40 |
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mtj |
hmm, they do? |
| 12:40 |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
| 12:40 |
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jcamins |
They provide a list of packages that require installing. |
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jcamins |
The package from the apt repo installs a bunch of packages. |
| 12:41 |
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jcamins |
However, as I'm not RM anymore, I don't have a strong opinion. :) |
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mtj |
so i guess the assumption is… people use that list of packages, to install some packages |
| 12:43 |
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jcamins |
Or to see what they're going to need to install. |
| 12:43 |
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jcamins |
Though perhaps it's possible to get that information from a deb as well. |
| 12:43 |
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mtj |
snap |
| 12:43 |
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jcamins |
In which case it's just an installation documentation issue. |
| 12:44 |
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eythian |
there is the koha-perldeps package, if that's useful for your cause. |
| 12:44 |
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eythian |
However, you'd be best using the scripts that work out that kind of thing if you're making docs. |
| 12:44 |
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eythian |
Because that's what they're good at. |
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jcamins |
eythian: yeah, mtj suggested eliminating the package lists and just saying "there is a koha-deps package." |
| 12:45 |
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eythian |
Oh, I see |
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eythian |
no, that's not ideal |
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mtompset |
eythian: why? |
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eythian |
people may always have weird reasons to not want the packages, and we should allow them that. |
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mtompset |
in Debian and Ubuntu?! |
| 12:46 |
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eythian |
sure, it's not my place to dictate how people administer their systems. |
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mtj |
well, i basically agree with eythain |
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mtj |
but, there's extra effort in maintaining those files… is it worth it? |
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mtj |
thats the question, i think |
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jcamins |
mtj: we're not talking about a lot of effort. |
| 12:48 |
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jcamins |
We're talking about thirty seconds once per release. |
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eythian |
it's pretty easy to do. I'd be inclined to say "you can use the package from the repos, or here's a list of dependencies." |
| 12:48 |
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eythian |
and just use debian/list-deps to make it |
| 12:49 |
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eythian |
keeping in mind that not everything is in stock Debian. |
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mtompset |
(or stock Ubuntu) |
| 12:49 |
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mtj |
ok, i'm convinced - lets keep those files :) |
| 12:51 |
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mtj |
(i'll paste this convo into the bug) |
| 12:52 |
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mtompset |
Can you list dependencies on a package without installing it? |
| 12:52 |
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eythian |
probably |
| 12:52 |
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eythian |
well, yes. But I don't know how easy it is. |
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mtompset |
just a second... going to try something. |
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mtompset |
apt-cache show <package> |
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mtompset |
Doesn't have to be installed. |
| 12:58 |
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mtompset |
So the question is, do we really want to allow people to install Koha without adding the Koha Debian Repository? |
| 12:58 |
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mtompset |
It seems like such a difficult way to do things. |
| 12:58 |
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jcamins |
I still have no objection to providing that option to those who need it. |
| 12:59 |
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eythian |
especially as it's just documentation |
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mtj |
i agree |
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jcamins |
eythian: well, in principle you can use dpkg --set-selections. |
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eythian |
that's true |
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eythian |
though they'd have to cpan some parts of it |
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mtompset |
Actually, jcamins, there's a mutli-architecture issue on Ubuntu at least. |
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mtompset |
the set-selections method wouldn't work. |
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mtompset |
tcohen encountered it. |
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mtompset |
I experienced it when I didn't have a 64-bit repo forced on me. |
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mtompset |
Shoot... I have to go. |
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drojf |
marcelr++ |
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drojf |
jcamins: around? |
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jcamins |
Kinda. |
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jcamins |
What's up? |
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drojf |
i'd have a DOM/zebra question |
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drojf |
i know you love those ;) |
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jcamins |
Heh. |
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jcamins |
Shoot. |
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drojf |
i added some indexes for bug 9972. i changed both biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml and biblio-zebra-indexdefs.xsl. now that marcelr asked, i am not sure if it is the correct way to do it. i ws thinking "have it as standard setup and in case someone builds their own later" |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9972 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Failed QA , Add/ change some zebra indexes (MARC21) (GRS1+DOM) |
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jcamins |
That is the way you must do it. |
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drojf |
yay! |
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drojf |
thanks! |
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drojf |
jcamins++ |
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jcamins |
You generated the zebra file from the xml, right? |
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jcamins |
(because you have to change both, but the zebra file must be generated) |
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drojf |
i think so. has been some time ago. i have to change something anyway so i will make sure to do that |
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eythian |
liking google's All Access music thing now I've finally got access to it. |
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drojf |
never heard of it. it's amazing how ignorant i became of all things google ;) |
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drojf |
so, it's a service that tracks what music you like? :P |
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eythian |
basically sorta like spotify, you have access to their whole catalogue for streaming. |
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eythian |
drojf: we already have libre.fm :) |
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drojf |
heh |
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drojf |
probably not available in germany because of copyright/license problems anyway |
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drojf |
the google thing i mean |
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eythian |
GEMA does hate you all, it's true. |
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drojf |
we don't even have a real youtube |
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drojf |
yup |
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drojf |
well, a new collection society is in the making. i hope to outlive GEMA |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10595: don't display OpacTopissue page when system preference is turned off <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f431d9e4abfc744d8> / Bug 10411: add cache control headers for static resources (Debian package) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d13ffcb5d11f65657> |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10597: fix Search to hold button on record details page <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c4984b7bdc167c388> |
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eythian |
@wunder bn1 1nb |
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huginn` |
eythian: The current temperature in Brighton, Brighton, United Kingdom is 29.0°C (3:15 PM BST on July 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady). |
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drojf |
@wunder berlin, germany |
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huginn` |
drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 28.3°C (4:13 PM CEST on July 18, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 31%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). |
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eythian |
looks a bit chilly there, drojf |
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drojf |
lucky me to sit inside a library ;) |
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oleonard |
@wunder 45701 |
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huginn` |
oleonard: The current temperature in Whitlind Woods, Athens, Ohio is 32.8°C (10:30 AM EDT on July 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 25.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Falling). Heat advisory in effect from noon today to 7 PM EDT this evening... |
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oleonard |
At least our humidity is below 90% this morning... |
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oleonard |
My glass is half full! |
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oleonard |
The other half is filled with muggy oven-hot air. |
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druthb |
@wunder 77098 |
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huginn` |
druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 30.6°C (9:39 AM CDT on July 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 24.0°C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
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* druthb |
wiggles her eyebrows at oleonard. |
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oleonard |
I'll give Texas another hour to warm up before I start to complain about Ohio being hotter druthb |
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druthb |
hee hee |
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rambutan |
@wunder 64507 |
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huginn` |
rambutan: The current temperature in St Joseph, Missouri is 28.6°C (9:40 AM CDT on July 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). |
| 14:53 |
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oleonard |
Hey everybody I see that wizzyrea updated http://responsive.mykoha.co.nz |
| 14:53 |
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oleonard |
The update covers many of the issues people pointed out in the last round of comments |
| 14:53 |
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oleonard |
wizzyrea++ |
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tcohen |
what was the demo user? |
| 14:56 |
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oleonard |
Uh... Actually I don't remember if she gave us one? |
| 14:57 |
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jcamins |
member/member1 per news. |
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drojf |
oleonard: are you planning to keep the login link at the top and the login form on the start page? it would save me from loading a new page if the link would just send me all the way down to an anchor at the login form (on the mobile). |
| 15:02 |
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oleonard |
I agree with your point drojf and I'm pondering how to handle it. |
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oleonard |
I might conditionally load some JS to pop the login form open in a modal window |
| 15:03 |
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oleonard |
I worked a lot on making the Cart button behave like the Lists button yesterday and it was a more work than I expected! |
| 15:04 |
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drojf |
they are still different for me |
| 15:04 |
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tcohen |
There's still a little scaling problem with the search box http://snag.gy/6ggNc.jpg |
| 15:04 |
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tcohen |
besides that, looks great oleonard |
| 15:04 |
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oleonard |
drojf: No, that work isn't up yet |
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drojf |
ah, alright |
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tcohen |
jcamins, r u already @home? |
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drojf |
tcohen: i have that too and it is funny: if you scale down slowly in firefox responsive view the select boxes scale down slighty more than the search box. like, they start almost the same size and the smaller you make the window, the bigger the difference gets. (guessing you have the same in your screenshot, that snag.gy thing does not work for me) |
| 15:08 |
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tcohen |
exactly |
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reiveune |
bye |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) kohagit: bug 10559: remove spurious "statement handle still active" warnings <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ec62a8c8f7f520627> |
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pianohacker |
oleonard: New followup patch for bug 10320, _should_ fix the issue you mentioned |
| 15:52 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10320 enhancement, P4, ---, jweaver, Failed QA , Show results from library's OverDrive collection in OPAC search |
| 15:52 |
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pianohacker |
(replaces the previous one) |
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oleonard |
Thanks pianohacker. I wasn't trying to bug you, just wanted to make sure that didn't get lost in the shuffle |
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pianohacker |
Oh, no, appreciate the reminder |
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oleonard |
Bug 10483 is passed QA but I can't get it to work. I wonder if I'm doing something wrong? |
| 16:05 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10483 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Passed QA , check_uniqueness.pl does not work |
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pianohacker |
oleonard: About to rebase those two patches on origin, I think that should solve the problem |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10553: make public lists available on OPAC login page <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a78bb6a4517dcb558> |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10457: fix SQL error when using 'export select items data' in serials claims... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]72aa334100898a756> |
| 16:53 |
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tcohen |
this is a good patch that just god fixed :-D https://bugs.launchpad.net/rar[…]tions/+bug/939300 |
| 16:54 |
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tcohen |
s/patch/bug/ |
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rambutan |
that ought to be a perfect patch |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 2774 - Path to theme is hard-coded in many places <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6e25ed2f9f2ef11cd> |
| 17:06 |
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oleonard |
Can anyone else confirm Bug 9396? Am I the only one? |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9396 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Saved reports listed twice |
| 17:09 |
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gmcharlt |
oleonard: I'm not seeing it |
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gmcharlt |
tcohen++ |
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druthb |
@quote random |
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huginn` |
druthb: Quote #100: "chris: well, one of them is overhauling the whole templating system jcamins: Koha's other swiss army chainsaw" (added by wizzyrea at 07:41 PM, October 11, 2010) |
| 17:38 |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, huginn`. |
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drojf |
lol |
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drojf |
@quote random |
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huginn` |
drojf: Quote #252: "<@jcamins> Really the issues is that Anglo-American libraries have settled on a profoundly stupid format that utterly fails to express anything that patrons care about, while going on at great length about things patrons don't care about." (added by chris at 10:42 PM, May 26, 2013) |
| 17:39 |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, huginn`. |
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drojf |
oh, it's one of those scary minutes when neither kf nor cait is here |
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* druthb |
has been missing her all day. |
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* oleonard |
just went outside briefly and regrets it |
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mtompset |
Greetings, koha. |
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mtompset |
Did you arrive safely, jcamins? |
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oleonard |
pianohacker: The OverDrive search is working well for me now |
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pianohacker |
excellent! |
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pianohacker |
thanks again for testing |
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mtompset |
What is OverDrive? |
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wahanui |
OverDrive is evil. |
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* mtompset |
laughs. |
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mtompset |
Who set that? |
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oleonard |
pianohacker: Where does the ratings data come from? I don't see a rating displayed on our OverDrive site |
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pianohacker |
oleonard: It originally comes from OverDrive, not sure where it comes from on their end |
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pianohacker |
mtompset: they're an ebook provider |
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oleonard |
mtompset: However, I'm not sure there is evil inherent in their nature or whether they simply absorb the evil in inherent in DRM |
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* mtompset |
cringes, "DRM?!" |
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mtompset |
Yes, perhaps inherited. |
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mjk |
hmm. someone needs to fix the website |
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mjk |
it looks like the irc server banned mibbit |
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mtompset |
Yes, there was a discussion about that earlier today or yesterday. |
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mjk |
ah |
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mtompset |
what link where is busted? |
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oleonard |
Which page mjk? http://koha-community.org/get-involved/irc/ links to http://webchat.oftc.net/?channels=koha |
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mjk |
http://koha-community.org/support/ |
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mjk |
has a link that uses mibbit |
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oleonard |
@later tell wizzyrea http://koha-community.org/support/ still links to mibbit |
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huginn` |
oleonard: The operation succeeded. |
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mtompset |
Yes. Confirmed. |
| 18:23 |
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mjk |
anyway, is there any good documentation to use a tuturial to teach complete novice volunteers how to catalog books or will i have to write it myself |
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oleonard |
Are you trying to teach non-catalogers cataloging, or catalogers Koha cataloging? |
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mjk |
i'm trying to teach non-catalogers how to catalog using koha |
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mjk |
i taught myself, but after working for several hours, i was only able to get about 85 books barcodes and cataloged |
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mtompset |
http://blip.tv/bywater-solutio[…]-koha-3-8-6382585 |
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mtompset |
Of course, that's not the current version of Koha, but it should cover general concepts, I think. |
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oleonard |
mjk: Are you using Z39.50 to find existing records? |
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mjk |
yes, when they exist |
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mtompset |
I hear z39.50 makes cataloguing easier that way. :) |
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druthb |
@wunder 77098 |
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huginn` |
druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 32.8°C (1:26 PM CDT on July 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018 hPa (Falling). |
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mjk |
i'm thinking that my directions will be: do a z39.50 search and import the most complete record you can find. if you don't find anything (or you find a woefully incomplete record), set it aside for somebody who knows what they're doing to create from scratch (or do some copy-pasta from worldcat) |
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druthb |
@wunder 45701 |
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huginn` |
druthb: The current temperature in OHDOT 31-Athens County Garage, Athens, Ohio is 32.2°C (1:51 PM EDT on July 18, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 23.0°C. Pressure: 30.14 in 1020 hPa (Falling). Heat advisory in effect until 7 PM EDT this evening... |
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oleonard |
No heat advisory for druthb because Texas. |
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oleonard |
mjk: That seems reasonable. |
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druthb |
lulz |
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* druthb |
waves to mtompset. |
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mtompset |
Greetings, druthb. Happy anniversary. Is that today or tomorrow? I wasn't paying attention. :) |
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mjk |
btw is there any program that can convert something like this: http://library.minlib.net/sear[…]43420152&1%2C1%2C |
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mjk |
into koha-readable marc |
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mjk |
certainly marcedit won't touch it |
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oleonard |
Really? Not that I know much about marcedit. |
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mjk |
i tried and i couldn't get it to do it |
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* cait |
waves :) |
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mtompset |
Greetings, cait. |
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* mjk |
waves back |
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druthb |
mtompset: tomorrow. :) |
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cait |
hi mtompset, mjk |
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druthb |
Hi, cait! |
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cait |
hi druthb :) |
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oleonard |
Our long international nightmare of caitlessness is over! |
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cait |
huh? |
| 18:32 |
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oleonard |
We missed you! :) |
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druthb |
:D |
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cait |
you missed confusing cait? :) |
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cait |
that's sweet :) |
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druthb |
We missed you lots n lots! |
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mtompset |
mjk: The data is practically MRK format. You just need to tweak the lines to start with =, change LEADER to =LDR, and perhaps some space removing around the two bits before the subfield information. |
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cait |
we had our.. company outing? today |
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cait |
spent lots of time with the coworkers in nature and eating icecream |
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druthb |
yay icecream! |
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cait |
almost too much icecream |
| 18:34 |
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cait |
i might take a break from icecream for a while now |
| 18:34 |
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oleonard |
We've been complaining about the heat all day today, so I'm not sure if the nature part is good or bad |
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cait |
it was not too warm and we did the walking part early :) |
| 18:35 |
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cait |
i didn't get sunburnt this year - which is a first |
| 18:35 |
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cait |
so how is #koha today? :) |
| 18:35 |
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mjk |
@mtompset, i tried to work with that data, but i couldn't get it clean enough for koha to recognize the record. |
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huginn` |
mjk: I suck |
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oleonard |
mjk: huginn` (a bot) is complaining because you used the "@" in that message |
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mtompset |
@what?! |
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mjk |
oh |
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huginn` |
mtompset: downloading the Perl source |
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mtompset |
That's sad and hilarious (re huginn` ) |
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druthb |
wahanui: botsnack cookie |
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wahanui |
thanks druthb :) |
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cait |
!huginn botsnack cookie |
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mjk |
anyway, i guess i should write a quick and dirty intro to cataloging for my club |
| 18:37 |
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cait |
hm that was not the trick |
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mjk |
a lot of people probably won't like dealing with videos |
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oleonard |
Who does? |
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mjk |
i meant watching an instructional video |
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mjk |
sych as i was linked to earlier |
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mjk |
old school fen like words, preferably on dead trees |
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pianohacker |
I much prefer words too. Most instructional videos are too slow |
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cait |
pianohacker: yp |
| 18:40 |
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cait |
yep |
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cait |
most videos are annoying |
| 18:40 |
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cait |
but all people learn differently |
| 18:40 |
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mjk |
I wonder if I should steal screenshots from the official documentation or if I should make my own |
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cait |
hm maybe ask nicole and put your documentation up somewhere to reuse for others? |
| 18:42 |
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mjk |
maybe i'll do so after i've tested it on a bunch of nesfans. |
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mjk |
that will mean that i'll have to either create two versions or simply not include any NESFA-specific info in the text |
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* oleonard |
wonders why Bug 9396 affects only him |
| 18:58 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9396 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Saved reports listed twice |
| 18:58 |
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oleonard |
I even tried truncating my saved_sql table and adding one from scratch... Still showing duplicates. |
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cait |
oleonard: hm could check? |
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cait |
oleonard: can't reproduce :( |
| 19:11 |
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gmcharlt |
oleonard: could you send my a mysqldump of your saved_sql table? |
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pastebot |
"oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "gmcharlt: saved_sql" (65 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/128 |
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gmcharlt |
oleonard: tried it, not seeing any problem |
| 19:22 |
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mjk |
would fonlk consider this accurate: Koha (our library software) is a complex and flexible piece of software, but the parts of it that you need to learn as a cataloger are pretty simple. When cataloging, you will be working primarily with two features, the Z39.50 search interface and the MARC record editor. MARC records are the international standard for the storage of bibliographic data, while Z39.50 is a standard for querying MARC-o |
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mjk |
riented databases. |
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cait |
international standard might be a bit too far ... but i think it doesn't really matter here :) |
| 19:29 |
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pastebot |
"oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "That'll do it." (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/129 |
| 19:29 |
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oleonard |
Mystery solved. |
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cait |
oh! |
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drojf |
heh |
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drojf |
twist! |
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* cait |
hands oleonard a cookie |
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cait |
hi drojf |
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cait |
you missed me? ;) |
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mjk |
policy question for any real librarians hanging out here. |
| 19:30 |
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drojf |
hi cait |
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gmcharlt |
oleonard: dang it, you figured out my secret plot to confuzzle you! |
| 19:30 |
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drojf |
of course i did! |
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drojf |
how was your trip? |
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cait |
it was nice :) |
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cait |
we were pretty lazy this year which suits me fine |
| 19:31 |
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drojf |
that sounds better than expected ;) |
| 19:31 |
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cait |
not too much time in the hot sun |
| 19:31 |
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mjk |
when cataloging books, should a barcode label be applied before a work is entered or only after it is fully cataloged |
| 19:31 |
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drojf |
heh nice |
| 19:31 |
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pianohacker |
mjk: preprinted or koha-generated barcode labels? |
| 19:31 |
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drojf |
mjk: that is something you can invent to your liking ;) |
| 19:32 |
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mjk |
preprinted |
| 19:32 |
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cait |
what suits your workflow best :) |
| 19:32 |
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pianohacker |
my instinct would be after; that makes it easier to tell what has and hasn't been actually cataloged |
| 19:32 |
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mjk |
i generate them 300 at a time using gLabel and blank avery mailing labels |
| 19:32 |
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cait |
i think it's good if you don't have to touch the books all so often, so I would probably catalog the item and put the label in at that time |
| 19:33 |
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cait |
also you will see what's already in Koha as pianohacker said :) |
| 19:33 |
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mjk |
right, but in my instruction i'm writing, the way of handling books for which z39.50 records can't be found is "put the book aside for a marc wizard to deal with" |
| 19:34 |
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oleonard |
cait: I tested Bug 10320 today and found it to work |
| 19:34 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10320 enhancement, P4, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , Show results from library's OverDrive collection in OPAC search |
| 19:34 |
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cait |
mjk: then i would leave the label out and leave that to the wiz as well |
| 19:34 |
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oleonard |
cait: Is there anything in particular you'd like me to look at? |
| 19:34 |
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cait |
you catalog the item after you added the record |
| 19:34 |
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mjk |
sok. |
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cait |
oleonard: that it breaks nothing else :) |
| 19:34 |
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cait |
and as you are the one who can test... also that it works |
| 19:34 |
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cait |
maybe also take a look at the logs |
| 19:34 |
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cait |
if it adds warnings and stuff |
| 19:35 |
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drojf |
mjk: you are starting from scratch? (no old system, weird self-built databases or excel sheets)? |
| 19:35 |
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pianohacker |
I forgot to add a test to dump a page of warning on every load on mtompset's machine only, shoot... |
| 19:36 |
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drojf |
lol pianohacker |
| 19:36 |
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* mtompset |
laughs. |
| 19:36 |
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mjk |
drojf: we're starting from scratch. nobody in the club ever took this on as a project before |
| 19:36 |
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mtompset |
You're Eeeeeeevil, pianohacker. :P |
| 19:36 |
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drojf |
mjk: cool! you will learn a lot. to hate MARC is one of the things. don't worry, it's normal :D |
| 19:37 |
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gmcharlt |
pianohacker is decidedly not eeevil # cross-F/LOSS ILS project in-joke |
| 19:38 |
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mjk |
it came to a head when one member brought back three full grocery bags full of books and dvds and we realized that the current paper-based checkout system was broken |
| 19:38 |
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cait |
mjk: heh |
| 19:38 |
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pianohacker |
oh wow |
| 19:38 |
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tcohen |
bye #koha |
| 19:38 |
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cait |
you will still rely on people to actually check out things |
| 19:38 |
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cait |
but that's always the problem... |
| 19:38 |
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pianohacker |
gmcharlt: That's a bit disappointing, was trying to raise my evil quotient this summer :) |
| 19:38 |
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cait |
mjk: i think when doing everything from scratch, you already have the right idea |
| 19:38 |
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cait |
like putting away books not found for later |
| 19:39 |
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cait |
i woud attach the barcode when adding the item - but that's really my preference and you shoudl do what works best for you :) |
| 19:39 |
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mtompset |
You forgot the evil cackle, pianohacker. Not good, if you are trying to up it. ;) |
| 19:40 |
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mjk |
she'd actually signed them out... it's just that with the current system (self-signout sheets orgazined by author name) you never really know who has what without looking hard |
| 19:53 |
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mjk |
would anybody add anything to this description of the search process: Click the "Z39.50 search" button. This will bring up a window where you can input a number of search parameters, as well as selecting which library catalogs you want to query. Generally speaking, ISBN numbers offer the best parameter to search by, but for pre-ISBN books, author and title fields will get the job done. After you submit your query, Koha will get to wor |
| 19:53 |
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mjk |
k and with any luck, you will be presented with a list of one or more matching records. If there's more than one choice, you can preview the available records in either MARC form or in human-oriented "card" form. Pick the record that is most complete (this will usually be from Toronto) and import it using the "Import" link. |
| 19:55 |
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cait |
:) |
| 19:55 |
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cait |
sound sgood |
| 19:55 |
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cait |
have you seen you can also click everywhere ina line to bring up a context menu with the import link? |
| 19:56 |
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cait |
sometimes helpful so you avoid scrolling |
| 19:56 |
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mjk |
i'm trying to make this as simple as possible for people to use as a guide at a "cataloging party" |
| 19:57 |
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cait |
yeah that#s right |
| 19:57 |
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cait |
:) |
| 19:57 |
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cait |
so forget what i said |
| 19:57 |
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cait |
simple is good |
| 19:57 |
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oleonard |
A cataloging party sounds like a blast. Is there an open bar? |
| 19:58 |
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mtompset |
cataloging party... good idea. :) |
| 19:58 |
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mjk |
nope, but there's a full-szed refrigorator stocked with every kind of carbonated beverage known to man (including mexican coke) |
| 19:58 |
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cait |
flash mob cataloguing? |
| 19:58 |
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mtompset |
open bar, but it isn't free. ;) |
| 19:59 |
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mjk |
also a smaller fridhe full of water for those who acre about things like nutrition |
| 19:59 |
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mtompset |
flash mob cataloguing... Fame! I'm gonna live forever. ;) |
| 19:59 |
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mjk |
*fridge |
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cait |
where and when? :) |
| 20:04 |
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mjk |
oh well. my evening planes becon. |
| 20:05 |
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mjk |
cait: in boston at a time to be deterimned |
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cait |
ah |
| 20:05 |
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cait |
guess I won't amke it then |
| 20:05 |
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mjk |
see you guys later. |
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oleonard |
Bye #koha |
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pianohacker |
bye oleonard |
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cjh |
aquaman: morning |
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wizzyrea |
well that was an earthquake. |
| 21:40 |
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cjh |
it felt like our building was doing a little dance |
| 21:40 |
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wizzyrea |
it wobbled for a good 45 seconds or so on L7 |
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wizzyrea |
i'm sure it's in my mind it still feels swayish |
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ibeardslee |
I had to restrain myself from breaking into the whisky to settle the nerves |
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cjh |
heh |
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wizzyrea |
it was decently jolyt |
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wizzyrea |
jolty* |
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rambutan |
Earthquake? |
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wahanui |
Earthquake is on the news |
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wizzyrea |
http://www.geonet.org.nz/quakes/drums/wellington |
| 22:15 |
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rambutan |
cool link |
| 22:16 |
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wizzyrea |
geonet is cool |
| 22:16 |
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rambutan |
I see that the KS State Librarian, Jo Budler, was selected as Library Journal's 2013 Librarian of the year. |
| 22:17 |
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wizzyrea |
hm interesting |
| 22:17 |
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wahanui |
interesting is, like, sometimes good and sometimes bad |
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rambutan |
time for the ball game |
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aquaman |
cjh: morn |
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mtompset |
wizzyrea: Did you get the tell pointing at the bad mibbit link on the support page? |
| 22:32 |
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wizzyrea |
I did |
| 22:32 |
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wizzyrea |
I was fixing it and then we had an earthquake |
| 22:32 |
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wizzyrea |
>.> |
| 22:32 |
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wizzyrea |
and then I forgot what I was doing and started on something else |
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mtompset |
I was going to say that is a pretty powerful fix, causing an earthquake. ;) |
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wizzyrea |
mtompset: you will be happy to know that the link has been fixed. |
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tcohen |
can i says happy birthday to gmcharlt or should I strictly stick to my timezone? |
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gmcharlt |
tcohen: I'll happily collect birthday wishes in whichever time zone is most convenient ;) |
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tcohen |
happy birthday gmcharlt! |
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gmcharlt |
thanks! :) |
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jcamins |
Happy birthday, gmcharlt! |
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gmcharlt |
jcamins: thanks :) |
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dcook |
morning #koha |
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tcohen |
hi dcook |
