| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:00 |
|
dcook |
Can't say that I'm a Sony fan either. |
| 00:00 |
|
dcook |
I want to say that I'm a fan of having gear that doesn't need regular servicing. But...if I say that...then my laptop is going to explode. |
| 00:01 |
|
jcamins |
Isn't that the company that is supposed to make the most reiable PCs? |
| 00:01 |
|
dcook |
O_o |
| 00:01 |
|
jcamins |
Lenovo. |
| 00:01 |
|
dcook |
Isn't Lenovo with IBM? |
| 00:01 |
|
dcook |
Mmm, local DNS is down. That's always nice. |
| 00:01 |
|
jcamins |
Sony, IBM, whatever. :P |
| 00:01 |
|
jcamins |
8.8.8.8 |
| 00:01 |
|
dcook |
Yeah, I think that's my best bet |
| 00:03 |
|
dcook |
There we go |
| 00:04 |
|
dcook |
I'm not sure what I think of the Lenovo laptops either...lol |
| 00:04 |
|
dcook |
I have a friend who runs...I think Linux Mint on his Lenovo and he seems to like it |
| 00:05 |
|
dcook |
I was thinking of dual booting my ASUS netbook with Ubuntu but haven't gotten around to it yet |
| 00:05 |
|
* dcook |
is thinking of taking July off of personal study/computer projects |
| 00:05 |
|
dcook |
Other than actual work stuff, of course |
| 00:06 |
|
* jcamins |
figured out that "personal" meant "not work." :P |
| 00:06 |
|
dcook |
I take my work pretty personally sometimes ;) |
| 00:09 |
|
jcamins |
Heh. True. |
| 00:09 |
|
dcook |
Not entirely sure where I want to go with things anyway... |
| 00:10 |
|
dcook |
When I have some time, I think I'm going to use my new VM here at work to develop using Gitify |
| 00:10 |
|
jcamins |
Doo eet! |
| 00:10 |
|
dcook |
:D |
| 00:11 |
|
dcook |
I suppose I want to know more about networking and sysadmin, but...it can be tough to learn things without projects and I'm not sure what "projects" would revolve around those two elements of computing |
| 00:12 |
|
dcook |
I was thinking of looking at Evergreen at some point |
| 00:13 |
|
jcamins |
I found EG rather daunting. |
| 00:13 |
|
dcook |
Coming from you, that sounds terrifying. |
| 00:26 |
|
dcook |
Hmm, why are you not cooperating, template? |
| 00:27 |
|
jcamins |
To make you crazy. |
| 00:27 |
|
dcook |
I think so. Damned template conspiracy. |
| 00:27 |
|
* jcamins |
decides to go read a book and hope that his computer is working perfectly when he gets back. |
| 00:27 |
|
dcook |
Good call |
| 00:27 |
|
* dcook |
got his first Australian public library card on Saturday |
| 00:28 |
|
dcook |
Time to read all the books! |
| 00:28 |
|
jcamins |
Woohoo! |
| 00:29 |
|
jcamins |
I'm going to read... probably the latest Thursday Next book. |
| 00:29 |
|
jcamins |
I should read something non-fiction, but that sounds more fun. |
| 00:29 |
|
dcook |
I think July should be the month of fiction |
| 00:29 |
|
* dcook |
nods |
| 00:29 |
|
dcook |
Although it might still be June there? |
| 00:29 |
|
dcook |
Thursday Next looks interesting... |
| 00:29 |
|
dcook |
I picked up Fahrenheit 451 and a couple Girl Genius trades (even though I've already read them) |
| 00:32 |
|
dcook |
Templates sorted. Booyah. |
| 00:51 |
|
rangi |
must .. not ... reply |
| 00:51 |
|
rangi |
dcook: you can .. they are in .au :) |
| 00:51 |
|
dcook |
O_o |
| 00:52 |
|
dcook |
rangi: Not sure I follow what you're saying... |
| 00:52 |
|
rangi |
mail to the koha list |
| 00:53 |
|
dcook |
Ahh, I put together your sentences now |
| 00:53 |
|
dcook |
I thought they were unrelated :p |
| 00:53 |
|
rangi |
hehe |
| 00:53 |
|
wizzyrea |
file a bug, make a patch, or give someone money to do it. |
| 00:54 |
|
dcook |
I just get the digests so I tend not to see things until the next day |
| 00:54 |
|
wizzyrea |
which part of this is hard to understand. |
| 00:54 |
|
* dcook |
thinks he should probably switch over to the non-digest for devel... |
| 00:54 |
|
wizzyrea |
that was on main koha |
| 00:54 |
|
dcook |
Hmm |
| 00:55 |
|
* gmcharlt |
looking into why the master test database on jenkins seems to be autocommiting during HoldsQueue.t even while that's explicitly what that test tells it *not* to do |
| 00:56 |
|
rangi |
yeah |
| 00:56 |
|
rangi |
its weird eh |
| 00:56 |
|
rangi |
dcook: http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipe[…]-July/036648.html |
| 00:57 |
|
dcook |
Thanks, rangi, I was just about to look that up :) |
| 00:58 |
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| 00:58 |
|
mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
| 00:59 |
|
dcook |
rangi: I think that's one of Calyx's libraries actually |
| 00:59 |
|
mtompset |
8.8.8.8?! Big brother is watching us already. :P |
| 01:00 |
|
wizzyrea |
eep |
| 01:01 |
|
dcook |
Yeah, I'm with wizzyrea: file a bug, make a patch, or pay someone to do it |
| 01:01 |
|
dcook |
From personal experience, a lot of libraries never do inventories |
| 01:01 |
|
dcook |
They probably should, but they don't |
| 01:02 |
|
mtompset |
The only reason the libraries I'm working with are doing an inventory is because they are just entering data into the Koha system for the first time. :) |
| 01:02 |
|
rangi |
emails like that are why im giving my talk at kohacon |
| 01:02 |
|
dcook |
That said, I have done a few, and the points they mention are certainly valid... |
| 01:02 |
|
dcook |
Well, not valid... |
| 01:02 |
|
dcook |
But those are desirable features for an inventory module |
| 01:02 |
|
rangi |
but obviously not compelling enough for someone to write them :) |
| 01:02 |
|
dcook |
mtompset: That's great that they're doing it :) |
| 01:03 |
|
dcook |
rangi: True true |
| 01:03 |
|
dcook |
I think that's just a fact of life though |
| 01:03 |
|
dcook |
If you want something done, do it yourself or pay someone else to do it |
| 01:04 |
|
rangi |
even more |
| 01:04 |
|
dcook |
Or make a polite request and hope that someone else has similar goals |
| 01:04 |
|
rangi |
you just received, the culmulative effort of 217 people, over 13 years |
| 01:04 |
|
rangi |
for free |
| 01:04 |
|
rangi |
how about giving something back |
| 01:04 |
|
dcook |
I think that's the most important thing |
| 01:05 |
|
dcook |
I can understand complaining about software that one has spent thousands or millions on |
| 01:05 |
|
rangi |
complaining is fine |
| 01:05 |
|
dcook |
In itself |
| 01:05 |
|
rangi |
tone is the issue |
| 01:05 |
|
dcook |
But complaining with the expectation that you're owed something |
| 01:05 |
|
dcook |
Mhm |
| 01:05 |
|
rangi |
yeah |
| 01:07 |
|
rangi |
https://twitter.com/CuteEmerge[…]127780352/photo/1 |
| 01:07 |
|
dcook |
lol |
| 01:08 |
|
dcook |
Always a good pick me up |
| 01:08 |
|
dcook |
I suppose this is also the point of that proposal I sent in for VALA |
| 01:08 |
|
wahanui |
okay, dcook. |
| 01:08 |
|
dcook |
Ack |
| 01:08 |
|
dcook |
forget I suppose this |
| 01:08 |
|
wahanui |
dcook: I forgot i suppose this |
| 01:08 |
|
rangi |
still havent heard anything back from vala |
| 01:08 |
|
dcook |
Same |
| 01:09 |
|
dcook |
But yeah, my point is that librarians and libraries need to stop thinking about things simply from the role of consumer |
| 01:09 |
|
dcook |
And realize that they can actually contribute and shape their own future |
| 01:10 |
|
jcamins |
No! Surely not! |
| 01:10 |
|
rangi |
heh |
| 01:11 |
|
dcook |
I suppose that not all librarians are technical nor want to be technical, but...there are lots of ways to contribute - as wizzyrea pointed out before |
| 01:11 |
|
mtompset |
Shhh... stop making sense, dcook. ;) |
| 01:14 |
|
rangi |
yay sue! |
| 01:14 |
|
rangi |
stdc++ |
| 01:18 |
|
mtompset |
I like the mention that a previous LMS was cumbersome too. :) |
| 01:20 |
|
mtompset |
And the methodology she describes may be time consuming, but it is simple and accurate. :) |
| 01:20 |
|
mtompset |
I wonder if my librarian colleagues have barcode scanners. |
| 01:27 |
|
gmcharlt |
rangi: well, that would do it |
| 01:28 |
|
rangi |
hm? |
| 01:28 |
|
gmcharlt |
rangi: looks like the tables in the jenkins master database are all using MyISAM |
| 01:28 |
|
rangi |
yikes |
| 01:28 |
|
rangi |
that would certinaly do it |
| 01:28 |
|
rangi |
maybe drop it and recreate |
| 01:28 |
|
gmcharlt |
hey, I'm happy -- that's better than dealing with a cannot-turn-off-autocommit DBD::mysql bug :) |
| 01:28 |
|
rangi |
hehe true |
| 01:29 |
|
gmcharlt |
rangi: yeah, I'll do that |
| 01:30 |
|
rangi |
cool thanks |
| 01:32 |
|
rangi |
http://zero2perl.dreamwidth.org/ |
| 01:33 |
|
wizzyrea |
^ looks pretty cool actually |
| 01:34 |
|
rangi |
gmcharlt: https://twitter.com/therealsin[…]774641664/photo/1 |
| 01:34 |
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| 01:35 |
|
gmcharlt |
heh |
| 01:37 |
|
mtompset |
Greetings, rangi tcohen gmcharlt wizzyrea. |
| 01:37 |
|
mtompset |
Interesting perl link. |
| 01:39 |
|
* dcook |
waves to tcohen |
| 01:39 |
|
tcohen |
hi dcook, mtompset |
| 01:40 |
|
cjh |
hey :) |
| 01:42 |
|
tcohen |
hi cjh |
| 01:46 |
|
mtj |
i worked on that stocktake task for kerrie, and i think every point she made is wrong |
| 01:46 |
|
rangi |
heh |
| 01:46 |
|
dcook |
mtj: Oh? |
| 01:48 |
|
huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10494: remove spurious warnings from the KohaBranchName plugin <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5c21a0757c685cbec> / Bug 10494: test cases for the KohaBranchName plugin <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f4d2b68746627482b> |
| 01:51 |
|
mtj |
"Things we thought should be standard and automatic,"…. would not be applicable to other libraries, in a different situation |
| 01:52 |
|
* mtompset |
nods in agreement with mtj. :) |
| 01:52 |
|
dcook |
Mmm |
| 01:53 |
|
dcook |
I suppose |
| 01:53 |
|
rangi |
sysprefs? |
| 01:53 |
|
wahanui |
sysprefs are "System Preferences", found on my Koha admin homepage |
| 01:53 |
|
dcook |
Although the numbered points they outline are usually standard in most ILSes, I think |
| 01:53 |
|
dcook |
There's also that |
| 01:53 |
|
rangi |
http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3qgz25/ |
| 01:53 |
|
dcook |
I think this one does fall down to it just not being a priority for anyone |
| 01:53 |
|
mtompset |
Greetings, cjh. :) |
| 01:53 |
|
rangi |
*nod* |
| 01:53 |
|
dcook |
rangi: hehe |
| 01:54 |
|
cjh |
hey mtompset :) |
| 01:57 |
|
jenkins_koha |
Starting build #1277 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1274 3 days 0 hr ago) |
| 01:58 |
|
mtj |
dcook, the other gotcha with stocktake is, the module works well enuff to do (imho) everything needed |
| 01:59 |
|
dcook |
"Need" is a pretty subjective term though |
| 01:59 |
|
dcook |
But...I think I see what you're saying |
| 01:59 |
|
dcook |
Up until now, perhaps it has done what people needed |
| 01:59 |
|
mtj |
…when combined with an SQL report, to fetch various barcodes |
| 01:59 |
|
dcook |
Although I think there might be a bug where it can only handle so many barcodes... |
| 02:00 |
|
dcook |
That might've been fixed by now though |
| 02:00 |
|
mtj |
yeah, there is a hardcoded limit for that, afaik :/ |
| 02:02 |
|
dcook |
Hmm |
| 02:02 |
|
dcook |
But yeah, as for the itemized points, those are features that I've had with other systems I've used when doing inventories |
| 02:02 |
|
dcook |
They were handy |
| 02:03 |
|
dcook |
They're certainly doable as well |
| 02:03 |
|
dcook |
That said, I have other things on my plate and I don't think many of our clients do inventories. |
| 02:08 |
|
huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6553 - Parentheses in Corporate author break tracings <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]77f4916e5a737a0aa> / Bug 10484: serials-edit.pl not checking for barcode field before checking for barcode... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3f1c4fb03fcf323cd> |
| 02:09 |
|
mtj |
yeah, i havent done many of them myself |
| 02:10 |
|
dcook |
I haven't in a while. I was at a library for a year where we did regular inventories using Millennium and then I did a project more recently where we were integrating collections after a library move using Horizon |
| 02:10 |
|
dcook |
Of course, the bad thing about automatic updates when doing inventories... |
| 02:11 |
|
dcook |
If you accidentally missed a section or your scanner stopped working or... or... |
| 02:11 |
|
dcook |
Then you've updated a lot of statuses incorrectly and you need to do the batch item mod anyway :/ |
| 02:18 |
|
huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10497 - star ratings not showing right in ccsr detail <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5df39e09bd64830dd> |
| 02:20 |
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wizzyrea |
be wizzyrea |
| 02:20 |
|
wahanui |
do you like my aspirational, irritatingly American, optimism? |
| 02:23 |
|
cjh |
be cjh |
| 02:23 |
|
cjh |
free \o/ |
| 02:24 |
|
* druthb |
fears |
| 02:24 |
|
druthb |
be druthb |
| 02:24 |
|
wahanui |
Harrumph! |
| 02:24 |
|
druthb |
heh |
| 02:24 |
|
cjh |
heh |
| 02:24 |
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gmcharlt |
be gmcharlt |
| 02:24 |
|
wahanui |
Here, kitty kitty kitty... |
| 02:24 |
|
* wizzyrea |
could do something for "be cjh" |
| 02:24 |
|
wizzyrea |
hehehehehehe |
| 02:24 |
|
cjh |
oh? |
| 02:25 |
|
wizzyrea |
but I think it might not be funny ; |
| 02:25 |
|
wizzyrea |
;) |
| 02:25 |
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cjh |
heh |
| 02:25 |
|
dcook |
be dcook |
| 02:26 |
|
dcook |
Whew... |
| 02:28 |
|
dcook |
All right. I'm going to go have lunch and read a book at the library down the road ^_^ |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #1277: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 12 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1277/ |
| 03:10 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Galen Charlton: Bug 10494: test cases for the KohaBranchName plugin |
| 03:10 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Galen Charlton: Bug 10494: remove spurious warnings from the KohaBranchName plugin |
| 03:10 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10494 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , KohaBranchName sends useless warnings to log if supplied library code is null or not present |
| 03:13 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #1278 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1274 3 days 2 hr ago) |
| 03:39 |
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mtompset |
if you had your choice of encryption methods, which would you use? a shared key or a public/private key system? |
| 04:26 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #1278: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 13 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1278/ |
| 04:26 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Kyle M Hall: Bug 10484: serials-edit.pl not checking for barcode field before checking for barcode subfield |
| 04:26 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Liz Rea: Bug 6553 - Parentheses in Corporate author break tracings |
| 04:26 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Owen Leonard: Bug 10497 - star ratings not showing right in ccsr detail |
| 04:26 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10484 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , serials-edit.pl not checking for barcode field before checking for barcode subfield |
| 04:26 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6553 major, P3, ---, liz, Pushed to Master , Parentheses in corporate author break tracings |
| 04:26 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10497 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , star ratings not showing right in ccsr detail |
| 04:28 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #1279 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1274 3 days 3 hr ago) |
| 04:36 |
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wizzyrea |
nooooo |
| 04:37 |
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dcook |
Uh oh. Who broke it? |
| 04:48 |
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mtompset |
Not me. :) |
| 04:48 |
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mtompset |
It seems like a test suite, I think. |
| 04:50 |
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mtompset |
Bug 10386? |
| 04:50 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10386 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , UT: VirtualShelves.t needs some more adjustments |
| 04:55 |
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mtompset |
someone didn't run "prove -v blah.t" first. :) |
| 04:55 |
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mtompset |
okay, and for crazy fun... I'm attempting a windows install of Koha. :) |
| 04:56 |
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dcook |
Nice one, mtompset! |
| 04:57 |
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dcook |
I'd love to hear how that goes |
| 04:57 |
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mtompset |
I installed the windows version of the perl that rangi gave a link to. |
| 04:57 |
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mtompset |
It seems to be strawberry perl based. |
| 04:58 |
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mtompset |
I'm CPAN'ing required libraries now. |
| 04:59 |
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dcook |
I wonder a bit about where you'll get hung up |
| 04:59 |
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dcook |
Anywhere that uses shell scripts? |
| 04:59 |
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mtompset |
I'm thinking ZOOM right now. |
| 04:59 |
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* dcook |
tries to remember if a non-package version uses shell scripts |
| 05:00 |
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dcook |
On a side note: http://www.kickstarter.com/pro[…]fey/librarybox-20 |
| 05:00 |
|
dcook |
Also: http://daviddarts.com/piratebox/?title=PirateBox |
| 05:03 |
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dcook |
I suppose you could make a KohaBox using a RasPi... |
| 05:04 |
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mtompset |
That would be easy by comparison. |
| 05:05 |
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mtompset |
There's a debian image for the Raspberry Pi. |
| 05:05 |
|
dcook |
drojf posted instructions for Koha set up as well |
| 05:05 |
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dcook |
I suppose the hardest part would be setting it up to broadcast a wifi signal |
| 05:06 |
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mtompset |
That's just a hardware issue. There are wired to wireless dongles. |
| 05:06 |
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mtompset |
Then it would be accessible by one's router. |
| 05:07 |
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dcook |
http://learn.adafruit.com/sett[…]ss-point/overview |
| 05:08 |
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dcook |
Better than that, turn your Raspi into a router, so that you just have the one box |
| 05:08 |
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dcook |
Of course, it would only be good locally, but that's the idea |
| 05:09 |
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dcook |
I guess in that article they are hooking it up to a wire... |
| 05:09 |
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dcook |
But you wouldn't need to |
| 05:15 |
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mtompset |
neat... found yaz and zebra for windows. |
| 05:16 |
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mtompset |
this would be cool if I could run koha natively on windows. :) |
| 05:20 |
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mtompset |
And therein is the problem. |
| 05:20 |
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mtompset |
there is no yaz-config in windows? |
| 05:25 |
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dcook |
Just for the record, Granville Island Lions Winter Ale is on sale from October to March...which covers the time period I'll be there following Kohacon |
| 05:25 |
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dcook |
I think I'm going to weep with joy right now |
| 05:33 |
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mtompset |
well... four library failures: Net::Z3950::ZOOM, Number::Format (locale test failure), PDF::API2::Simple, and Schedule::At. |
| 05:33 |
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mtompset |
I'm going to call it a morning. |
| 05:33 |
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mtompset |
Happy Canada Day! |
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dcook |
hey ya cait |
| 05:35 |
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cait |
hi dcook |
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jenkins_koha |
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marcelr |
h[ae]llo #koha |
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dcook |
hey ya marcelr :) |
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hi dcook |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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wahanui |
bonjour, alex_a |
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reiveune |
hello |
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wahanui |
hola, reiveune |
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marcelr |
hi france |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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marcelr |
hi magnuse |
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magnuse |
hiya marcelr |
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magnuse |
bonjour paul_p |
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paul_p |
hello magnuse |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 15.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on July 01, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). |
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magnuse |
@wunder marseille |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 21.0°C (9:00 AM CEST on July 01, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
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dcook |
Night, tout le monde |
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christophe_c |
hello #koha |
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kf |
hi #koha |
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marcelr |
hi kf |
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kf |
hi marcelr |
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magnuse |
hiya christophe_c kf sophie_m |
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kf |
finally started catchng up a bit with qa, home more to come this week |
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kf |
no more travelling in the near future :) |
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sophie_m |
hi magnuse |
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sophie_m |
hello #koha |
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magnuse |
kf++ |
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marcelr |
kf++ too |
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kf |
marcelr++ holding the fort :) |
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marcelr |
certainly an overstatement |
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christophe_c |
hi magnuse |
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kf |
hi christophe_c and magnuse and sophie_m |
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christophe_c |
hi kf ;-) |
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asaurat |
hi! |
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kf |
hi asaurat! |
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kf |
how are things? :) |
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drojf |
good morning #koha |
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magnuse |
moin drojf |
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drojf |
hei magnuse |
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drojf |
@wunder berlin, germany |
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huginn |
drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 18.5°C (9:13 AM CEST on July 01, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
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asaurat |
kf: I'm in Marseilles this week, it's too warm I'm getting used to cold climates ;) |
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kf |
what are you doing during other times now? :) |
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asaurat |
living in Lozère, in the small moutains in the center/south of the country ("Massif Central") |
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kf |
sounds nice |
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magnuse |
@wunder Lozère |
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huginn |
magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. |
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magnuse |
@wunder Lozère, france |
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christophe_c |
:-D |
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huginn |
magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. |
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christophe_c |
U topos |
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* magnuse |
thinks asaurat is just making it up :-) |
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christophe_c |
:-D |
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asaurat |
héhé |
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asaurat |
@wunder Mende |
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huginn |
asaurat: Error: No such location could be found. |
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asaurat |
arf |
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asaurat |
that's the biggest town in the vicinity :p |
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asaurat |
but the whole region is a no man's land, indeed =) |
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alex_a_ |
@wunder Saint Chely d'apcher |
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huginn |
alex_a_: Error: No such location could be found. |
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magnuse |
google maps says it knows Lozère but places the marker in the middle of nowhere, indeed :-) |
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alex_a_ |
nowhere ! That's where asaurat lives |
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alex_a_ |
asaurat: ;) |
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asaurat |
yep =) |
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asaurat |
http://goo.gl/maps/ZrexV |
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asaurat |
some Compostella pilgrims walk around here |
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asaurat |
when they're not eaten by the "Beast of Gévaudan" |
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magnuse |
compostella? they have either lost tjeir way or they have a long way to go, then?!? |
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asaurat |
still a long way to go, for sure, but a major starting point is around here |
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asaurat |
(Le Puy en Velay) |
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magnuse |
ah, cool |
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* magnuse |
walks down (or up?) avenue de la gare, in google streetview |
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kf |
asaurat: and what are you doing in the middle of nowhere? :) |
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asaurat |
I had enough of big cities :p living in the very center of Marseilles was tiresome |
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* magnuse |
can only imagine... |
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asaurat |
where do you live ? =) |
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kf |
asaurat: magnuse lives in the middle of the other nowhere :) |
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magnuse |
yeah, i live just outside nowhere |
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magnuse |
on the outskirts of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bod%C3%B8 |
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asaurat |
how do you pronounce the ø ? :D |
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magnuse |
to be more exact: http://www.flickr.com/photos/e[…]7&order_by=recent |
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magnuse |
asaurat: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bodo.ogg |
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asaurat |
nice fox =) |
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magnuse |
yup |
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magnuse |
that one was last year, i saw another one today |
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magnuse |
couldn't get close enough for a nice photo, though |
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rangi |
hmm im gonna kick that person off the list |
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rangi |
and done |
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kf |
rangi++ |
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* Oak |
waves |
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Oak |
@wunder islamabad |
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huginn |
Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 36.0°C (2:00 PM PKT on July 01, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Falling). |
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kf |
hi Oak |
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samueld |
hi everybody |
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Oak |
hello kf |
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samueld |
i've forgotten a detail. I think there is a script which allow to display the date of the creation of the record (and his last modificatiion)? |
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kf |
morgen drojf |
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eythian |
hi |
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kf |
hey eythian |
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drojf |
hola kf and eythian |
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kf |
where are you? :) |
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eythian |
kf: Brighton |
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wahanui |
Brighton is where the catalyst UK offices are |
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eythian |
right, wahanui |
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wahanui |
eythian: what? |
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kf |
oh cool |
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kf |
had a good flight? |
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eythian |
I had a long flight. It's never really "good" when it's like that :) |
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kf |
true |
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eythian |
it wasn't remarkable, that's about the best I can say :) |
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kf |
but no additional unpleasant events? |
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eythian |
No, it all went according to plan. |
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eythian |
Now I'm just waiting for the afternoon for the jetlag to kick in. |
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kf |
aah |
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kf |
so not working today? |
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eythian |
yeah, I am |
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kf |
ah - stay awake then :) |
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eythian |
I'll try :) |
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* drojf |
could use some directions on how to stay awake |
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kf |
does your favourite beveragenot do the trick? |
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drojf |
i'm trying to cut back on that. but i have a backup bottle in the locker ;) |
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kf |
cutting back - wow |
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kf |
you crried bottles to scotland! :) |
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drojf |
oh come on, that were only like… two. or maybe four. for eight days. that does not count :D |
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kf |
the fact that you imported something in glass bottles counts |
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drojf |
heh true |
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drojf |
i feel like building a raspberry koha firefoxos self-checkout machine i have absolutely no use for. i am a weird person |
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jcamins |
Yeah! Do it! |
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jcamins |
Wait... FirefoxOS? |
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jcamins |
Why? |
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drojf |
why not? :D |
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eythian |
drojf makes an excellent point. |
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jcamins |
A fair question. |
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kf |
hehe |
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kf |
i think it's a great idea |
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kf |
can have a mobile self check thing then too |
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jcamins |
kf: true! |
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gaetan_B |
hmm, i thought it was totally feasible to relocate authority controlled fields in other tabs than the one they usually belong to, but it seems the small plugin that handles filling the correct subfields is getting confused in that case. Anyone had this before ? |
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gaetan_B |
maybe i didn't setup my framework correctly |
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gaetan_B |
but all the subfields seem to be in the right tab, some of them are hidden though |
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jcamins |
gaetan_B: I've done that and it's worked, when I've made sure that *every* subfield was moved. |
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gaetan_B |
drojf: this actually sounds like a great idea :) |
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gaetan_B |
besides, i think quite a few libraries would be interested in cheap self check out machines |
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drojf |
kf: if you had two mobile self check things you could use one to checkout the other |
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gaetan_B |
the price from main vendors is usually in the range of "ridiculous" |
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kf |
true |
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kf |
gaetan_B: still in kurdistan? |
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gaetan_B |
yep |
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gaetan_B |
i am sick today :( |
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gaetan_B |
yesterday's shawarma was not so fresh it seems ! :D |
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kf |
oh no :( |
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gaetan_B |
maybe i'll be a vegetarian for the few days i have left here |
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kf |
at least youcan still smile about it |
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drojf |
gaetan_B: i think a fancy version (with big touch display) would be doable for 250€+ |
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gaetan_B |
drojf++ |
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gaetan_B |
that would be *very* neat |
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gaetan_B |
obviously you would need to sort of industrialize the production if you intend to sell them |
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gaetan_B |
but then |
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gaetan_B |
this is cool :) |
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kf |
gaetan_B: i think people could install themselves on a tablet or something that can run firefox os |
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kf |
or they can hire drojf to do so :) |
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drojf |
maybe i miss the crazy magic part that makes those machines ridiculously expensive. not sure what that is supposed to be though |
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gaetan_B |
oh, but you're talking self checkout with barcodes ? i was thinking rfid |
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drojf |
i was thinking rfid too |
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drojf |
an NFC/RFID module is actually cheaper than a barcode scanner |
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gaetan_B |
jcamins: could my problem stem from the fact the whole "see also" section is missign from my framework for the 100$a ? I don't see where this information comes from |
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jcamins |
gaetan_B: I'm not sure what you mean. |
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jcamins |
Boy am I not happy with this year's KohaCon. |
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gaetan_B |
jcamins: when i look at the subfields for the 100 fiel in the marc structure of the default framework (which works) i see this in front of the $a : Tab:1, | Koha field: biblio.author, Not repeatable, Not mandatory, | See Also: '100b','100c','100q','100d','100e','110a','110b','110c','110d','110e','111a','111e','111c','111d','130a','700a','700b','700c','700q','700d','700e','710a','710b','710c','710d','7 |
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gaetan_B |
hmm, that was probably too long for IRC |
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drojf |
jcamins: why? |
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gaetan_B |
anyway, there's a whole section with fields and subfields, but i don't see where this is configured |
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jcamins |
drojf: because despite the fact that my reservation was for October, the *casino* that the conference is being held at billed me in June... for not showing up. |
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jcamins |
gaetan_B: weird. I have no idea what that is. |
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drojf |
jcamins: OMG |
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jcamins |
drojf: which makes the venue chosen absolutely appalling to me. |
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drojf |
well, you know that only the casino really wins… |
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drojf |
sorry ^^ |
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jcamins |
drojf: lol |
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jcamins |
True. |
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kf |
gaetan_B: you can ignore it |
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kf |
gaetan_B: related to nozebra |
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gaetan_B |
oh so this is not what's causing my problem then, thanks kf :) |
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gaetan_B |
i guess it's just one filled that should not be hidden |
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kf |
well the index field is |
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kf |
and it's deleted on saving |
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kf |
i filed a bug for that ages ago |
| 10:38 |
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marcelr |
kf: added you to the cc of bug 10509 :) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10509 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Using i18n function for translation in webinstaller mysql files |
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kf |
marcelr: subtle ;) |
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kf |
i have some bugs to take care of first this week |
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marcelr |
the approach changed from updating to using i18n function to translate |
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marcelr |
kf: no problem, but German will be my first language candidate to convert |
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kf |
oh |
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kf |
marcelr: i will refer any questions to the german community manager - drojf |
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* kf |
hides |
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marcelr |
too bad |
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kf |
i was joking :) |
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marcelr |
oooohhh |
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kf |
just a really long todo list right now, so not sure when i will get really time to look at it |
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marcelr |
my todo list is too long |
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kf |
i think to tell if it's too long i would have to estimate the length |
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kf |
and i would rather try to avoid that |
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marcelr |
very good |
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drojf |
so, somebody is drilling. in the library. |
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drojf |
my monday can hardly get any better |
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gaetan_B |
when filling the authority controlled fields in cataloging, could it be that the part that identifies where the information should be added bases itself on the default framework and not the framework currently used ? |
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kf |
gaetan_B: nothing is impossible. |
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kf |
not helpful i know :) |
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kf |
maybe get someone to take a look at the code? |
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gaetan_B |
i'll try this when they are done training themselves |
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gaetan_B |
i have had a look at the code, there is no reference to frameworks in that part, so it *could* be the reason |
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gaetan_B |
because when i do this, i usually set up my simplified framework as the default one, which i haven't yet |
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gaetan_B |
and this is the first time i am having this problem |
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samueld |
for biblio.datecreated, how can it be displayed in the marc framework? I find a value in the database but it's not displayed. |
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jcamins |
Okay, update on the incompetent billing. The person I spoke to on the phone said "oh, you used the website, I never know what it's doing, but your reservation was correct, even if the billing statement was not. |
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jcamins |
" |
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jcamins |
So for USians who haven't booked the hotel yet, I recommend a phone call. |
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kf |
one would think they would update their website |
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* kf |
now considers a phone call too |
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drojf |
look, it's that stable university wifi again |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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marcelr |
hi oleonard |
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kf |
hi oleonard :) |
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kf |
oleonard++ thx for the acq item form fix |
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kf |
hi drnoe |
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drnoe |
hello |
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drojf |
eduroam-- |
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drojf |
eduroam-- |
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drojf |
eduroam-- |
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kf |
oooh |
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kf |
eduroam++ |
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drojf |
eduroam-- |
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drojf |
eduroam-- |
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drojf |
eduroam-- |
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drojf |
ha |
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* kf |
gives up |
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kf |
you are cheating |
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drojf |
we should kill it, it's kind of dead anyway |
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oleonard |
@karma eduroam |
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huginn |
oleonard: Karma for "eduroam" has been increased 1 time and decreased 6 times for a total karma of -5. |
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oleonard |
There should be a filter to block negative karma flooding |
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drojf |
no there should not |
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drojf |
;) |
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kf |
drojf: it worked fine for me when i was in dortmund last time |
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kf |
was very glad to have internet |
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drojf |
kf: i suppose it does not suck anywhere like here |
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drojf |
hu-- |
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kf |
probably |
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drojf |
hu-- |
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drojf |
hu-- |
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* kf |
puts on chain gloves before offering drojf a cookie |
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drojf |
the seperate vpn network works though, so it can't just be the univerisities fault |
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kf |
not sure if he bites |
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drojf |
i might :D |
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drojf |
telefonica starts selling firefoxos phones…tomorrow??! i did not think the os was considered ready for end users yet |
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eythian |
drojf: it's not on mine, I think. |
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eythian |
and did you get the email saying that "if you're writing about it, make sure you emphasise that it's pre-release?" |
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drojf |
eythian: i have not upgraded in a while but i doubt that a lot happened since then |
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drojf |
ha yes i got that too |
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eythian |
I have, there wasn't a lot of change that I saw |
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drojf |
i made mine keep wifi connection in standby, i was too lazy build again later |
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drojf |
s/build/to build/ |
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drojf |
and use duckduckgo instead of bing/google |
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kf |
drojf: so it's not good yet? |
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drojf |
kf: it's great. for me. i'm not sure if it is good for end users already |
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drojf |
well, it does calls and sms, it has a calendar and an address book, and it has a browser. that probably is a lot really for a 69€ smartphone |
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drojf |
(the ZTE ones telefonica is going to sell cost 69) |
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kf |
drojf: doens't sound too bad |
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drojf |
looks like it's 69€ including 30€ prepaid credit. LOL that's ridiculously cheap |
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drojf |
(and together with an usb rfid reader it's almost a tiny self-checkout machine o.O) |
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kf |
:) |
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slef |
drojf: the US-based duckduckgo not the NL-based ixquick? |
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slef |
Anyway, hi all. Why I'm really here: is there a standard for whether or not a range "from 2013-06-01 to 2013-06-02" actually includes the whole of 2013-06-02 or not? As in, does the range finish at 2013-06-02 00:00:00 or 2013-06-02 23:59:59? |
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drojf |
"Ixquick is a metasearch engine based in New York and the Netherlands." |
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drojf |
i guess that would not make a difference ;) |
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slef |
drojf: source? |
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wahanui |
i guess source is good. |
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drojf |
duckduckgo :D |
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drojf |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ixquick |
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slef |
drojf: which seems to be based off of some SEO company and a direct contradiction to ixquick's own about page which says it started in NY but was bought by an NL company |
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eythian |
slef: I think I presume them to be inclusive, unless stated otherwise |
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drojf |
slef: a range is defined from its beginning to its end, in my understanding it should include the whole 2013-06-02 |
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slef |
eythian, drojf: I think I do too, but both a colleague and MySQL just did the opposite and I've found nothing to contradict them besides anecdotes :-/ |
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eythian |
which is the opposite? I can imagine four different ways of doing it. |
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slef |
interpreting YYYY-MM-DD as "YYYY-MM-DD 00:00:00" always |
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eythian |
I think if I were to say "the show was running from the 1st to the 3rd", it'd be clear that it was inclusive. |
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eythian |
I can totally understand mysql doing that. |
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slef |
ibkt fthat |
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slef |
sorry |
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eythian |
but I think if you're designing a UI, doing the opposite of what mysql does should probably be the first thing you do. |
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slef |
only that it's easier to program |
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drojf |
you should tell your colleague that if s/he does things the mysql way that is probably a bad idea |
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slef |
heh |
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oleonard |
kf can you pretty-please try Bug 10510 again and make sure you're not seeing the old background image sprite? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10510 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , OPAC's renew selected link has glitchy icon |
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kf |
oleonard: sure, but not right now :( |
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kf |
tonight? |
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wahanui |
tonight is dgl-library1's last night physically present for this project. So if there's any other way…… |
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kf |
I really made sure to restart chromium and delete ALL the cache for ALL time... but it still showed up :( |
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kf |
and tried firefox too, i ran out of ideas |
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oleonard |
kf: If you don't mind, maybe you could pull up the image itself in the browser, refresh, and confirm that you're getting the right one |
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oleonard |
kf: Do you have a special font size or zoom setting in your browser? |
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kf |
hm I don't think so no |
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kf |
i think i even did strg + 0 to resize |
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kf |
but it stayed the same |
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kf |
oleonard: could you put the URL on the bug? |
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kf |
to the picture? |
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oleonard |
Sure |
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kf |
thx |
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kf |
i will try to retest tonight |
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kf |
i really thougth that it shoudl work, but i jsut couldn't make it work... bit frustrating :) |
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kf |
did you see galen's comment about the error dialog patch? |
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oleonard |
No |
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kf |
i passed it and he found something ... *sigh* :) |
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oleonard |
I see it now. I missed that some JS was referencing that div. I swear I looked for it. |
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kf |
i missed it too |
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kf |
that's why lots of eyes is good :) |
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kf |
still annoyed at myself for missing it :) |
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kf |
eythian: i constantly want to tell you to go to bed... |
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eythian |
I do feel a little like I should... |
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kf |
go for a walk in the sun if you can |
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kf |
it's supposed to help resetting your body clock or something |
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eythian |
It is 2am according to my body clock, and it's telling me that I should be thinking about sleeping. |
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eythian |
Yeah |
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eythian |
that's not a silly idea really. |
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jcamins |
eythian: I think you're supposed to stand on stone. |
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eythian |
jcamins: it's bad luck to be superstitious. |
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jcamins |
eythian: no, really, I was told that standing on actual stone rather than concrete helps you adjust faster. |
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jcamins |
No idea if that's true, but I was told that when I went to Edinburhg. |
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jcamins |
*Edinburgh |
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* eythian |
is sceptical. |
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oleonard |
The Earth's time zone rays can't reach you as quickly through concrete |
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jcamins |
I didn't try it because it's possible I didn't really believe that standing on stone instead of concrete would make a difference. |
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eythian |
oleonard: well, now you've framed it using science words, I totally get it! |
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eythian |
jcamins: the standing on anything in particular is part of my scepticalness. |
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eythian |
typically, I find that two sleeps and I'm realigned sufficiently. |
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eythian |
two sleeps at normal sleep times for the local zone, that is... |
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kf |
took me a week or so after coming back from nz to go back to 'normal' last time |
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kf |
i just fell asleep at a certain time too early no matter what was around me |
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kf |
:) |
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reiveune |
bye |
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kf |
but i have never again been so awake at 4 am... that was kinda handy |
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eythian |
well, coming from NZ is a problem, because NZ is the normal time for everywhere, so you're fighting being used to that. |
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eythian |
It just the price that people not living in NZ have to pay. |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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kf |
heh |
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mtompset |
Greetings, kf. |
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* druthb |
chucks Skittles at mtompset. |
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mtompset |
What did I do this time?! |
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mtompset |
Greetings, druthb. |
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druthb |
Nothing; if you had, I'd have used my slingshot. ;-) Greetings! |
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mtompset |
Just making sure the channel silence isn't because I did something taboo and now everyone is shunning me. ;) |
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kf |
now that you mention it... |
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mtompset |
kf, the lack of smileys on that makes sarcasm difficult to detect, if you did intend it. :( |
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druthb |
mtompset: when we start doing this, then you'll know for sure. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5c2etjMl3WM |
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mtompset |
Nice Trek reference, druthb. |
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mtompset |
eythian's suggestion of koha-shell is good. Except, su - doesn't work under Ubuntu by default. |
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druthb |
mtompset++ # learning, bringing patches, asking questions, listening to good advice. |
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kf |
mtompset: the ... were indicating a smiley ;) |
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mtompset |
*whew* Thanks. |
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mtompset |
So, for ubuntu users... sudo -i or sudo su - first? |
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eythian |
sudo -s |
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kf |
just a busy monday |
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eythian |
however, it doesn't use su - |
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mtompset |
but koha-shell does. |
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mtompset |
Happy Canada Day, by the way. :) |
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eythian |
no it doesn't |
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mtompset |
let me go check again... |
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mtompset |
push @su_args, '/bin/su'; |
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mtompset |
Yes, it does. |
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eythian |
it doesn't use su - |
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mtompset |
I grabbed that line from koha-shell. |
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eythian |
there is no - in that |
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mtompset |
okay, su blah balh. |
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mtompset |
It uses su. |
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eythian |
right, but su - is a specific thing |
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eythian |
it tells su to use a login shell |
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eythian |
and koha-shell only does that if you specify -l / --login |
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eythian |
an su does work on ubuntu |
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mtompset |
let me check that again, because it prompted for a password. |
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mtompset |
and because the root account is disabled su won't work. |
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eythian |
I think you misunderstand the purpose of su and what it does |
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eythian |
> Gebruik: su [opties] [gebruikersnaam] |
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eythian |
the second field is the relevant one here. |
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mtompset |
right... but it needs root permissions to su. |
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eythian |
and how is that normally done? |
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mtompset |
I tend to use sudo -i, and just stay in root for a bit, myself. |
| 15:41 |
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mtompset |
But that is bad. |
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eythian |
that's a bad idea |
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eythian |
why not just use 'sudo koha-shell', like I said in the email? |
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eythian |
then you have root, and su will work. |
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mtompset |
doh! I so lack reading skills. |
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mtompset |
BAD ME. |
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mtompset |
Sorry, eythian. |
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eythian |
:) |
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|
* eythian |
uploads new packages for master |
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eythian |
s/uploads/has now uploaded/ |
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kf |
bye all :) |
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cait |
hi #koha |
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rambutan |
hi cait |
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cait |
hi rambutan |
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mtompset |
Greetings, cait and rambutan. |
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mtompset |
A lot of timeouts. |
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druthb |
cait: caitsnack cookie! |
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cait |
omnomnom |
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tcohen |
hi cait |
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cait |
hi tcohen :) |
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tcohen |
is rangi already awake? |
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|
* tcohen |
is in Hamlet-mode, "to revert or not revert" |
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jcamins |
tcohen: what are you thinking of reverting? |
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tcohen |
i added a new dependency |
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tcohen |
due to a 2 bugs related to callnumber ordering |
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tcohen |
i love that patches, but am worried about dificulties for the end-user |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
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jcamins |
Up to you. I don't have any opinions on that. I like the patch series quite a lot, personally, but that's not the question. |
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cait |
heh |
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tcohen |
UNC's librarians love jcamins |
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tcohen |
a super-librarian model for them |
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jcamins |
:) |
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cait |
yay! |
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cait |
jcamins++ |
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cait |
superlibrarians++ :) |
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druthb |
jcamins, did you just claim to be insane? |
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oleonard |
Oh it is ON |
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* druthb |
reviews the bidding. |
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druthb |
He did, didn't he... |
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druthb |
Do not try to out-crazy me, little man. :P |
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druthb |
My only regret about the new DSM version 5, is that it quit calling what I am a "disorder." It's the most disorderly part of my life, and I revel in it. |
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jcamins |
Wow. You know what I had forgotten? |
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jcamins |
FF is a really miserable browser to use. |
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druthb |
:P |
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druthb |
yes, it is. |
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jcamins |
In fact, I am disturbingly reminded of IE. |
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oleonard |
Sir you go too far |
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jcamins |
In order to reload a single JS file you have to wipe your entire cache. |
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oleonard |
Why not pull up that file in the browser and refresh it? |
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jcamins |
I did. |
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jcamins |
And FF said "oh, go stuff yourself. |
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jcamins |
And I said "oh yeah? We'll see about that!" |
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jcamins |
And cleared its caches. |
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cait |
lol |
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cait |
that reminds me... |
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cait |
i should take a look at the glithy icon again :) |
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jcamins |
cait: while gamboling? :) |
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jcamins |
("'Twas brillig, and the glithy icons / did gyre and gimble in the wabe...") |
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jcamins |
I meant gimbling, not gamboling, of course. |
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cait |
jcamins: ? |
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jcamins |
cait: it's from a famous poem by Louis Carroll. The Jabberwocky. |
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cait |
oh of course |
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cait |
;) |
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drojf |
what do you kids learn in school these days? :P |
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cait |
and the drojf appears.. :) |
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cait |
hm our dashboard is still june :) |
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tcohen |
does anyone remember what happened to a proposed circulation dashboard for koha? |
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drojf |
then i better postpone all the signoffs i planned ;) |
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cait |
tcohen: not sure |
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wahanui |
it has been said that not sure is related to the patch itself |
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magnuse |
wahanui: forget not sure |
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wahanui |
magnuse: I forgot not sure |
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cait |
oleonard: still around? |
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oleonard |
Yes |
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cait |
i did as you told me... and it didn't work |
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cait |
switching opacthemes now :( |
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cait |
http://localhost/opac-tmpl/prog/images/sprite.png < shows the sprite |
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cait |
but htat's prog right? |
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oleonard |
Yes |
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cait |
i was looking at ccsr all the time |
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cait |
yeah fixed in pro |
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cait |
g |
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cait |
oleonard: do you want to do a follow up for ccsr? |
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mtompset |
all mimsy were the burrow groves and momewraths out grabe. -- or something like that. :) |
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oleonard |
Yes I suppose I should |
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cait |
at least I was not crazy... or only a little bit |
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cait |
should have checked the paths |
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cait |
oleonard: i will pass qa on it |
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cait |
and then you can have the other patch on a new bug when you can fit it in :) |
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tcohen |
The path of excess leads to the tower of wisdom |
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mtompset |
DSM, druthb? |
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oleonard |
Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders |
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cait |
wow |
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tcohen |
i prefer blake |
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* cait |
feels like this channel is too smart for her maybe tonight |
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* cait |
hides |
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jcamins |
druthb: BTW, don't feel bad about the reclassification in DSM5. DSM5 is not real respected by current practitioners. |
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mtompset |
Actually, isn't the reclassification an improvement? |
| 18:48 |
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mtompset |
dysphoria vs. identity disorder. |
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drojf |
dysphoria? isn't that a symptom? |
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drojf |
wheeee thunderstorm |
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rambutan |
drojf: send 1/2 of it here |
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drojf |
i can try ;) |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #58 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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tcohen |
bye #koha, gotta run |
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mtompset |
bye, tcohen |
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druthb |
jcamins: So I've heard. mtompset: perhaps. Less stigmatizing, and that's a good thing, but it makes it *harder* to get insurance coverage. (As if it wasn't hard enough.) |
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mtompset |
Ah, nasty double-edged sword that is. |
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mtompset |
Thanks for the explanation, druthb. |
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drojf |
@later tell slef re: duckduckgo vs. ixquick, i remembered why i had the vague distaste for ixquick. https://trac.torproject.org/pr[…]et/4902#comment:6 also further down it says they did not want to work with tor. there is even a new bug on that tracker asking to be removed as standard search engine from the tor browser bundle. duckduckgo on the other hand has a hidden tor service and runs a tor exit enclave |
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huginn |
drojf: The operation succeeded. |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.12.x build #58: UNSTABLE in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.12.x/58/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* Owen Leonard: Bug 10315 - Use easier readable font for generated passwords |
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jenkins_koha |
* Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10425 - Help page missing for Local Use preferences |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10315 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Use easier readable font for generated passwords |
| 19:52 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Galen Charlton: Bug 10425: tweaks to text of help for local use system preference |
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jenkins_koha |
* Chris Hall: Bug 10245: add CSS classes to OPAC detail items table header |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10425 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Help page missing for Local Use preferences |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10245 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chrish, Pushed to Stable , OPAC items table CSS classes |
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* cait |
just uploaded a patch for bug 10490 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10490 major, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Overdue fines cap (amount) in circulation rules is saved incorrectly (rounded) |
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cait |
*hint* |
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cait |
good morning kathryn :) |
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kathryn |
hello cait :) |
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* cait |
wishes hard rangi was here |
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cait |
bug 10492 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10492 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Translation problems with TT directives in po files |
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cait |
i have no idea why the scripts pick those up to be translated |
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cait |
and the template processing files are very scary |
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cait |
hm ok, maybe it#s not a bad problem after all |
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cait |
it's just a bit weird |
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drojf |
good night #koha |
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cait |
good night drojf :) |
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cait |
ugh |
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cait |
bug 4907 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4907 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Suggestions "organize by" menu doesn't reflect current choice |
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cait |
this is form 2010 |
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jcamins |
Noooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!! |
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jcamins |
Oh. |
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* jcamins |
speaks typo. Never mind. |
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cait |
from...? |
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jcamins |
cait: in the US, forms have numbers. |
| 21:27 |
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cait |
scary. |
| 21:27 |
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jcamins |
I thought "form 2010" was a scary form that the government made you fill out. |
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cait |
help me fix the bug ... it will help you forget :) |
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jcamins |
firefox-- |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 19.0°C (11:20 PM CEST on July 01, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Steady). |
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magnuse |
AND the sun is shining! :-) |
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cait |
and magnuse should be sleeping? :) |
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magnuse |
yup |
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magnuse |
definitely |
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magnuse |
and sp should cait, probably? |
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cait |
maybe? :) |
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cait |
fixing old old bugs |
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magnuse |
cait++ |
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magnuse |
and jcamins++ for moving Bug 10240 forwards |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10240 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Offline circulation using HTML5 and IndexedDB |
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magnuse |
oh well, have fun #koha! |
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tcohen |
hi dcook |
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dcook |
hey tcohen :) |
