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gmcharlt |
wahanui: be wizzyrea |
02:04 |
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wahanui |
do you like my aspirational, irritatingly American, optimism? |
02:35 |
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jcamins |
lol |
02:43 |
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wajasu |
we |
02:44 |
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* wajasu |
migrates to packages on a cold winter's eve |
02:48 |
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* wajasu |
upgrading from Koha 3.01.00.145 to 3.11.00.001 |
02:50 |
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wajasu |
not really a good idea. i wonder if i can change the update to only go to an earlier version. like maybe 3.10 or 3.8.5 |
02:51 |
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wajasu |
got to remove biblio items. then runa script to rebuild auths from biblios. then save the DB, and load it in the biblio packages 10.2 |
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druthb |
o/ |
03:24 |
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bgkriegel |
Hi druthb |
03:24 |
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druthb |
Hi, bgkriegel. :) |
03:24 |
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bgkriegel |
bad news, more "server error" messages on poolte :( |
03:25 |
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druthb |
So I understand. I'll be takin' a look at that this evening. |
03:25 |
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bgkriegel |
sorry :) |
03:26 |
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druthb |
not your fault! :) You translators are so awesome, and been so very patient with me! |
03:26 |
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druthb |
translators++ |
03:26 |
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druthb |
@karma translators |
03:26 |
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huginn |
druthb: Karma for "translators" has been increased 4 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 4. |
03:26 |
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bgkriegel |
hehe:) |
03:27 |
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druthb |
that's too low! |
03:33 |
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* druthb |
is being a crafty nerd tonight. |
03:36 |
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druthb |
bgkriegel: Every report of trouble I've had has been on 3.12. Are you having problems on 3.8/10 also, or are those workin'. |
03:37 |
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bag |
hey druthb |
03:37 |
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druthb |
hi, bag! :) |
03:38 |
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bag |
@karma druthb |
03:38 |
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huginn |
bag: Karma for "druthb" has been increased 180 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 179. |
03:38 |
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bag |
@karma bag |
03:38 |
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huginn |
bag: Karma for "bag" has been increased 8 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 8. |
03:38 |
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bag |
:D |
03:38 |
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bag |
@karma brendan |
03:38 |
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huginn |
bag: Karma for "brendan" has been increased 28 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 28. |
03:39 |
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bgkriegel |
druthb: logged in, click on My account, Server error, An error has occurred. Thank you for your patience. |
03:39 |
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druthb |
ew |
03:40 |
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bgkriegel |
that's new :) |
03:40 |
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bgkriegel |
normally is file permissions |
03:41 |
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druthb |
yes, it is. does that to me, too. |
03:42 |
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bgkriegel |
if I search for project, on 3.12 is permissions, "You do not have rights to access this translation project" |
03:42 |
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druthb |
Okay...now *that*, I think I know the problem. |
03:43 |
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bgkriegel |
Got it: "Error accessing None, Filesystem sent error: No space left on device" |
03:43 |
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bgkriegel |
you must ask for more space |
03:43 |
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druthb |
sure enough! |
03:44 |
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druthb |
bgkriegel++ |
03:44 |
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druthb |
(or move some crap somewhere else! |
03:44 |
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bgkriegel |
yeah |
03:45 |
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druthb |
okay...gonna take it down for a few. |
03:45 |
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druthb |
we've got a second partition, I'm gonna shift Pootle onto that; that's where the mysql DB already is. |
03:46 |
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bgkriegel |
how much space use translation files? |
03:47 |
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jcamins |
A lot! |
03:48 |
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druthb |
yah, they're enormous. |
03:50 |
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druthb |
bgkriegel: all right...give things a try? |
03:52 |
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bgkriegel |
well, seems all ok |
03:52 |
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bgkriegel |
(save for 3.12, don't have permissions on that project) :) |
03:53 |
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bgkriegel |
think I never have, I sent you an email asking |
03:54 |
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druthb |
got it. Wonder if there's a fast way to *copy* permissions. |
03:55 |
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bgkriegel |
perhaps in the database |
03:55 |
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bgkriegel |
some insert/update |
03:55 |
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bgkriegel |
i'll look |
03:56 |
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* wizzyrea1 |
waves |
03:56 |
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druthb |
hi, wizzyrea1! :) |
03:57 |
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wizzyrea1 |
sup |
03:57 |
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* druthb |
has her wiffle bat out, and is using it gently on the Pootle server |
03:57 |
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wizzyrea |
why be gentle |
03:58 |
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* druthb |
is a kind soul. |
03:58 |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
04:05 |
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druthb |
bgkriegel: You *should* have 3.12 permissions now. Check? |
04:06 |
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bgkriegel |
not yet :) |
04:06 |
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bgkriegel |
:( |
04:06 |
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* druthb |
grumbles. |
04:06 |
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druthb |
You have permission for everything at the "Spanish" level..and I *see* it on Spanish/3.12, but... |
04:08 |
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druthb |
ah-hah. now try? |
04:08 |
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bgkriegel |
yep |
04:08 |
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bgkriegel |
:) |
04:08 |
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druthb |
wahoo! |
04:08 |
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* druthb |
dances the funky chicken. |
04:09 |
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bgkriegel |
not so fast! :) |
04:09 |
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* druthb |
puts a mini-project on her list: Audit all the permission sets on Pootle, make sure they're like they should be. It's *messy* |
04:09 |
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druthb |
eh? |
04:10 |
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bgkriegel |
can see, but not same permissions. |
04:10 |
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bgkriegel |
on 3.10 OverviewNewsTranslateReviewPermissionsFiles |
04:10 |
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bgkriegel |
on 3.12 OverviewNewsTranslateReview |
04:10 |
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* druthb |
scritches her head. |
04:11 |
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druthb |
Hm. Try now? Should be the same |
04:11 |
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bgkriegel |
Hurra! |
04:11 |
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bgkriegel |
Yes :) |
04:11 |
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druthb |
Awesome. |
04:11 |
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wahanui |
That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, druthb |
04:12 |
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* druthb |
puts INR40 in small coins in the jar. |
04:12 |
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bgkriegel |
but still don't show in my account. Enough for now |
04:14 |
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druthb |
"Settings" from My Account let you manipulate that quick-links page. |
04:14 |
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bgkriegel |
right |
04:14 |
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bgkriegel |
done |
04:14 |
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druthb |
:) |
04:14 |
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* druthb |
likes happy translators! |
04:15 |
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druthb |
translators++ |
04:15 |
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bgkriegel |
TM: not an easy job :) |
04:16 |
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druthb |
Nope. Lots of little frittery details to get right on this. Fortunately, it looks like Pootle will live in the same place for a while; that will help. |
04:17 |
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bgkriegel |
Yes. no need to move. But ask for more space :) |
04:18 |
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druthb |
Once I move the Pootle working directory, that solved the problem. The root partition is not-large, just need to set up some warnings to holler when logs get big. |
04:18 |
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druthb |
(and clean out the /tmp dir from time to time) |
04:19 |
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bgkriegel |
Great. Also, there are other things that can live in translate.k-c:manual, frameworks, xml's |
04:20 |
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bgkriegel |
there are many things to translate |
04:20 |
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druthb |
yah. My goal has been to get *more stuff* under Pootle control, and also smooth out the backend parts... |
04:21 |
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druthb |
like, separating language files from the main repo, then letting Pootle commit to a git repo on its' own from time to time. |
04:21 |
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bgkriegel |
yeah, read about that |
04:22 |
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druthb |
I'd also like to patch the Koha translation bits so you don't need those screwy file names! |
04:22 |
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bgkriegel |
hehe |
04:24 |
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druthb |
as much as jcamins would probably *love* for me to get that done for 3.12, I don't think that most of that will happen. *maybe*, though. |
04:25 |
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bgkriegel |
when 3.12 comes? |
04:26 |
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druthb |
In April. Things are a little bit wild for me right now; I'll be moving in a couple of weeks. But maybe I can squeeze in some time to get some of that accomplished. |
04:27 |
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bgkriegel |
too close |
04:27 |
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druthb |
Probably. With the feature freeze, he may not let me do that sort of massaging. |
04:28 |
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bgkriegel |
yes, probably not |
04:30 |
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druthb |
I could try batting my eyes at him, and tempting him with more of my salsa. |
04:31 |
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bgkriegel |
lol |
04:32 |
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bgkriegel |
it could work, he's talking much about food lately :) |
04:32 |
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druthb |
I am not much to look at, but my cooking is *amazing* |
04:35 |
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bgkriegel |
very good for you, and for those who enjoy it :) |
04:35 |
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druthb |
:) |
04:36 |
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* druthb |
may have to ship some internationally, to a few favorite translators. Or bring it to KohaCon. |
04:37 |
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bgkriegel |
could have a special session :) |
04:37 |
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druthb |
I am planning to present/lead a discussion, about where the translation bits go from here, and priorities and such. |
04:38 |
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jcamins |
May. |
04:38 |
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bgkriegel |
yes, mey |
04:38 |
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bgkriegel |
may |
04:38 |
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druthb |
May? Ooh. Then I might be able to sneak it in! |
04:38 |
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jcamins |
And, splitting the repo does not require any development, so that's not subject to the freeze. |
04:39 |
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druthb |
I may have to torque the /misc/translator/translate script a little, to adjust directories, etc. |
04:40 |
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jcamins |
Nah, step one involves putting all the po files in in a sub-module in the same place. Easy peasy. |
04:41 |
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* jcamins |
leaves to resume dish washing. |
04:41 |
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jcamins |
I successfully finished the brownie pie and cranberry coulis, and sliced 7 radishes. |
04:42 |
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jcamins |
It resulted in many dishes. |
04:48 |
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wizzyrea |
ok now I'm hungry |
04:48 |
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wizzyrea |
it's dinner time. |
04:48 |
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wizzyrea |
also you people should go to bed. |
04:48 |
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wizzyrea |
it's getting late. |
04:49 |
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bgkriegel |
yeah, 1:46 AM here |
04:49 |
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druthb |
22:46. |
04:52 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #69 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
04:55 |
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bgkriegel |
bye |
05:32 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.10.x build #69: SUCCESS in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.10.x/69/ |
05:32 |
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jenkins_koha |
* D Ruth Bavousett: updated translations for 3.10.3 |
05:32 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Chris Cormack: Updating DB version for release |
05:32 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #276 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
05:51 |
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mtj |
does anyone know of a patch to move the module dir from under the prog theme dir, in the opac |
05:53 |
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mtj |
… i guess ultimately it has no reason/need to be where it is, and should be moved one dir up? |
06:09 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.8.x build #276: SUCCESS in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/276/ |
06:09 |
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jenkins_koha |
* D Ruth Bavousett: Updated translations for 3.8.10 |
06:09 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Chris Cormack: 3.8.10 release notes |
06:09 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Chris Cormack: Updating DB version for 3.8.10 release |
06:16 |
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wizzyrea |
mtj I do not know of such a thing but i agree it probably should be done. |
06:32 |
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wizzyrea |
i did a little work on ccsr - http://i.imgur.com/qNytA02.png |
06:34 |
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wizzyrea |
(thing one etc is because I wanted to style those menus without being logged in.) |
06:37 |
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mtj |
wizzyrea++ lookin' good |
06:37 |
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mtj |
ah yep ^^ |
06:37 |
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wizzyrea |
there are some weird inconsistencies in ccsr that make me feel a bit twitchy |
06:38 |
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mtj |
yeah, i personally think the magical dissapearing left column is a pain, as well as a feature :/ |
06:38 |
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mtj |
ie: the left opac-nav area |
06:42 |
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mtj |
the ccsr theme is def. easier on the eyes |
06:42 |
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mtj |
the colors are less jarring, its more generally 'soothing' , i think... |
06:43 |
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mtj |
no…, i *feel* :) |
06:44 |
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wizzyrea |
i like it, I think. the mobile side is fine I think |
06:44 |
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mtj |
the calming greys of ccsr sooth my tired nerdy eyes |
06:44 |
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wizzyrea |
but it looks a little... it looks like a lot of other things. |
06:44 |
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mtj |
no no wiz… you *feel* |
06:44 |
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wizzyrea |
sorry I FEEL |
06:45 |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
06:46 |
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mtj |
the genericness of the cssr theme is also a feaure too |
06:47 |
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wizzyrea |
well it doesn't have to be flashy. But not looking like every other thing is nice too. |
06:49 |
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mtj |
i have been meaning to have another whack at my koha-bootswatch thingy |
06:49 |
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mtj |
… now that the GPL3/bootstrap stuff has happened |
06:49 |
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wizzyrea |
bootstrap is what we're using in the intranet |
06:49 |
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wizzyrea |
oh right bootswatch :D |
06:49 |
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mtj |
http://bootswatch.com/ |
06:49 |
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wizzyrea |
yes, you should do that. |
06:50 |
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wizzyrea |
the colors in ccsr match those on bootswatch : |
06:50 |
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wizzyrea |
:/ |
06:51 |
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mtj |
hey… grey is the new black - on teh interweb-2.0 |
06:51 |
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wizzyrea |
only 2.0? |
06:52 |
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mtj |
er.. no actually we are up to 4.12 here |
06:52 |
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mtj |
no, 5.12 even |
06:54 |
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mtj |
award-winning next gen. 5.12, for the enterprise |
06:56 |
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mtj |
see, once we add something like bootswatch to koha… we could then even start *removing* styling stuff from the koha templates |
06:58 |
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mtj |
that would be pretty satisfying |
06:58 |
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wizzyrea |
hehe yea |
07:19 |
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08:18 |
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* Oak |
waves |
08:19 |
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Oak |
hello cait. |
08:19 |
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cait |
hi Oak |
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08:43 |
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drojf |
good morning #koha |
09:03 |
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rangi |
bgkriegel++ #61 signoffs! |
09:13 |
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Oak |
bgkriegel++ |
09:14 |
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cait |
bgkriegel++ |
10:12 |
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magnuse |
bgkriegel++ |
10:12 |
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* magnuse |
waves |
10:13 |
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10:13 |
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rangi |
hehe sssh he must have heard!! |
10:14 |
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rangi |
@karma bgkriegel |
10:14 |
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huginn |
rangi: Karma for "bgkriegel" has been increased 22 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 22. |
10:14 |
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bgkriegel |
:) |
10:15 |
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bgkriegel |
morning |
10:17 |
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cait |
morning bgkriegel :) |
10:17 |
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bgkriegel |
hi cait |
10:18 |
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magnuse |
hiya bgkriegel |
10:18 |
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bgkriegel |
hi magnuse |
10:44 |
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bgkriegel |
rangi, you sorted tcohen as "Arazi", he'll be happy to top the list (release notes) |
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11:10 |
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rangi |
heh |
11:57 |
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jcamins |
Woohoo! |
11:58 |
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drojf |
Yay! |
11:58 |
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drojf |
what are we cheering for? |
11:58 |
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jcamins |
3.10.3 and 3.8.10. |
11:58 |
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jcamins |
I'm thinking about muffins. |
11:59 |
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drojf |
muffins \o/ |
11:59 |
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drojf |
;) |
11:59 |
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drojf |
no, new koha is cool too :) |
12:00 |
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drojf |
some names got messed up again in the relese notes |
12:00 |
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drojf |
release even |
12:00 |
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jcamins |
Frédéric? |
12:00 |
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drojf |
Marc Véron |
12:00 |
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jcamins |
Yeah... I don't understand what's wrong. |
12:01 |
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drojf |
oh yes, frederic too, and Córdoba |
12:01 |
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drojf |
weird |
12:03 |
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drojf |
i wonder what we are going to install at the workshop. or, if anything at all. i hope that apt caching worked :/ |
12:05 |
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jcamins |
drojf: you should test it. |
12:06 |
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drojf |
luckily somebody else had to set that up. that and an improvised LAN. it is going to be rather experimental ;) |
12:06 |
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magnuse |
a little bit of testing sounds like a good idea :-) |
12:07 |
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drojf |
i suppose the server was set up before the new versions came out |
12:10 |
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jcamins |
drojf: tell them to re-seed it by running an "apt-get install koha-common" through it. |
12:11 |
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jcamins |
After changing the settings to re-check the remotes, of course. |
12:11 |
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rangi |
utf8 weirdness in wordpress ill fix |
12:12 |
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jcamins |
rangi: yeah, but why is it _just_ release notes? |
12:12 |
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drojf |
jcamins: i think he chose an apt mirror. not sure, i send him the caching link too. we'll see. i wonder if i have enough disk space to set up the cache myself before i leave though |
12:12 |
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jcamins |
drojf: well, whatever he did, tell him to update it. :P |
12:12 |
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drojf |
:) |
12:12 |
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rangi |
cos the paste messed it up |
12:12 |
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rangi |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]169424ead03a13846 |
12:13 |
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jcamins |
rangi: okay, so not a flaw with my revised release notes script? |
12:13 |
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rangi |
nope if you switch that to utf8 in your browser its fine |
12:13 |
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rangi |
and is fine in git itself |
12:13 |
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jcamins |
Ohh, I see now. |
12:14 |
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rangi |
will fix the ones on the site |
12:16 |
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rangi |
http://koha-community.org/koha-3-10-3-released/ |
12:16 |
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rangi |
fixed |
12:16 |
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jcamins |
Thanks! |
12:16 |
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rangi |
and 3.8.10 fixed now too |
12:17 |
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rangi |
cant fix the emails unfortunately |
12:17 |
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magnuse |
rangi++ |
12:17 |
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jcamins |
Heh. Definitely not. |
12:18 |
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magnuse |
oh, come one, how many email systems would you have to break into? how hard can it be? |
12:18 |
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magnuse |
;-) |
12:19 |
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rangi |
heh |
12:19 |
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drojf |
nice html emails with iframes would do the trick |
12:19 |
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* drojf |
hides |
12:19 |
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magnuse |
lol |
12:20 |
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rangi |
heh |
12:21 |
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magnuse |
yeah, the world needs more iframes! |
12:22 |
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jcamins |
Actually, iframes are pretty cool... I had never realized that the only reason tinyMCE worked was because of an iframe. |
12:23 |
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drojf |
jcamins: does it cache only what i get via another computer or also what i install locally on the same machine? |
12:25 |
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jcamins |
Both. |
12:26 |
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drojf |
excellent |
12:26 |
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jcamins |
drojf: provided you tell the local machine about the cache. |
12:26 |
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jcamins |
(likewise, you have to tell the remove machines about the cache) |
12:29 |
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jcamins |
*remote |
12:32 |
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drojf |
thanks. looks like it is working, at least apt-get update does something. it does not find koha-community.rg, but that might be due to my typo ;) |
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13:04 |
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drojf |
test |
13:05 |
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jcamins |
Reason number one billion to dislike Facebook: they DOS my server at 10:55pm every other day. |
13:05 |
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drojf |
have you found out more about it? |
13:06 |
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jcamins |
No. |
13:06 |
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jcamins |
I found out that I think on Monday I'm going to have to call and demand to talk to someone, because this is absurd. |
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jcamins |
o.O |
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jcamins |
I turned on the access logs. |
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jcamins |
I am now reviewing them. |
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jcamins |
I had assumed that what was going on was that at 10:55 a misbehaved spider started working. |
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jcamins |
Not so much... |
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drojf |
but? |
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jcamins |
This misbehaved spider just goes into overdrive at 10:55. |
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jcamins |
I have requests from these IP addresses about once per minute all day. |
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jcamins |
Oh-ho! Take it back. |
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jcamins |
There are two spiders. |
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jcamins |
One is behaving. |
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jcamins |
One is not. |
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jcamins |
The misbehaving one is only at around 10:55. |
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drojf |
someone is interested in you ;) |
13:12 |
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jcamins |
The other one sends approximately one request per minute. |
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drojf |
does that count as behaving? |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
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magnuse |
weird! |
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magnuse |
how long does the misbehaviour last? |
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magnuse |
can you block it at the firewall? |
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drojf |
have you setup a spider trap by accident? |
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jcamins |
magnuse: about five minutes, until my server gives up. |
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jcamins |
I'd prefer not to, because I don't want to break sharing things on Facebook. |
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magnuse |
jcamins: ah yes |
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magnuse |
is it always from the same ip? |
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magnuse |
...just curious |
13:45 |
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jcamins |
There are about a dozen IPs. |
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* magnuse |
takes the dogs for a walk - will spend some more time trying to wrap up the digital signs afterwards |
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jcamins |
Woohoo! |
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jcamins |
magnuse++ |
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magnuse |
ooh, thanks |
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magnuse |
better be enthusiastic now, not sure you will be when (if) it reaches you after qa... ;-) |
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magnuse |
preview here: http://kohawip.libriotech.no/c[…]koha/opac-sign.pl |
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magnuse |
or maybe you were enthusiastic about the dogs getting a walk... |
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drojf |
lol |
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jcamins |
The signs. |
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wahanui |
the signs are hopeful |
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magnuse |
hehe |
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magnuse |
thanks wahanui |
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magnuse |
gotta object orient the code, i guess. wish i could DBICify it... |
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drojf |
off to the workshop /o/ |
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druthb |
o/ |
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kata |
looks like 3.10.3 is released. if i pull koha-common from stable, are those packages ready yet? ETA? |
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jcamins |
No, and probably Monday or Tuesday, I'd think. |
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kata |
ok |
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* testdrojf |
waves |
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* druthb |
waves to testdrojf |
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* jcamins |
waves to both testdrojf and druthb while taking a break from crying over onions. |
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magnuse |
jcamins: don't cry over onions, they're not worth it |
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testdrojf |
lol |
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druthb |
magnuse++ |
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kata |
ok did packages install. used "-intra" as suffix. if library was my instance name, what URL should i use for the staff interface |
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jcamins |
library-intra.yourdomain.com |
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jcamins |
The gnocchi is just about done, andd the sauce is done. |
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jcamins |
*and |
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jcamins |
And, of course, I finished the soup several hours ago. |
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testdrojf |
somebody here? :) |
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testdrojf |
acquisition question: how do i actually send an order? can i do that internally by email or do i have to print it and fax? |
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