IRC log for #koha, 2012-10-13

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00:02 jcamins_away eythian: we have a gitorious mirror.
00:25 rangi I think he meant we could install gitorious alongside gitweb
00:25 rangi On our server to give that interface to ppl
00:31 jcamins_away Oh.
00:32 jcamins Why would we want to?
00:33 jcamins (no objection, I just don't know why we would)
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01:37 eythian_ wahanui: wallet inspector is <reply> If you're a wallet inspector, how come I never see you at the staff meetings?|<reply> I don't suppose I could talk you into looking the other way this once?|<reply> Ok, here you go.
01:37 wahanui OK, eythian_.
01:39 jcamins eythian: why would we want to use gitorious?
01:39 jcamins rangi said you meant installing gitorious on, not their hosting, but I don't quite see what gitorious offers that gitweb + real git does not.
01:42 jcamins rangi: there's an error in one of your 3.8.x XSS patches, I think. "|htm l" instead of "|html "
01:46 eythian_ jcamins: yeah, installing a local gitorious instance. It's just a full-functional thing compared to gitweb, so you can submit patches and make merge requests and such like.
01:47 eythian_ it wouldn't suit koha proper, but the smaller things along-side it that don't use bugzilla etc.
01:47 jcamins I see.
01:47 jcamins Okay, that makes sense.
01:47 eythian_ I've been using it quite well for the migration tools stuff.
02:22 jcamins Well, drath.
02:23 jcamins *drat
02:23 jcamins @later tell gmcharlt When you get a chance could you add the key I e-mailed you to I tried to push 3.6.x, and it didn't recognize my credentials.
02:23 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded.
02:25 rangi jcamins: the signed off one should be the fixed version
02:27 jcamins rangi: oh, did you have different ones for 3.6.x?
02:27 jcamins I was just cherry-picking off of 3.8.x and resolving the conflicts myself.
02:28 rangi hmm darn, the signed off one that paul should have pushed should have been fixed, i was sure cait fixed it when signing off
02:28 jcamins Yeah, the page numbering one has that problem.
02:28 rangi guess she didnt
02:28 rangi ta
02:29 jcamins The problem only shows up when you have a sort set.
02:29 rangi yep it was spotted when testing and fixed, i think she attached the wrong patch never mind ill fix now for 3.8.x
02:30 rangi thanks for the heads up
02:30 jcamins You're welcome.
02:31 jcamins Does Plack overload defined()?
02:31 rangi hmm it might
02:32 jcamins I think it must.
02:32 jcamins defined ($authtype) ? $authtype->{whatever} : '' doesn't work.
02:32 jcamins $authtype = undef, and it still keeps trying $authtype->{whatever}
02:33 rangi hmm yeah it must
02:43 jenkins_koha Starting build #201 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
02:53 jcamins Bug 8914.
02:53 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8914 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Blank search that returns invalid authorities fails under Plack
02:53 jcamins Absolutely bizarre.
02:54 jcamins But patched.
03:22 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #201: SUCCESS in 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/201/
03:22 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Bug 3652: Fixing a typo
03:22 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3652 critical, P1 - high, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , XSS vulnerabilities
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04:20 eythian_ cjh: you know what you have to do: support MARC and Z39.50 :)
04:21 eythian_ or just submit Koha as your project ;)
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05:23 balin Yesterday I reported that /cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/ wasn't working for me from cataloging --> z39.50 search
05:24 balin I figured out why: the button is linking to "http", while I am piping all connections through "https" using nginx.
05:25 balin Is there any way to tell koha to use "https" rather than "http" for all links or do I have to rewrite those through nginx?
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06:02 mveron Good morning #koha
06:14 mveron I wanted to track down perl modules that need updates. It seems, that JSON:Any ist depractated?
06:14 mveron[…]
06:23 mveron ...and I can't find out where JSON::Any  is acutally used, behalve of
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06:30 mtompset Hmmm... mveron, good question. Perhaps it is a dependency of another library?
06:34 mveron mtompset: It appears ont the About page: JSON::Any 1.22 (marked yellow) and I was wondering where it is used
06:34 mtompset Really?
06:34 mtompset What version?
06:34 mtompset I just checked my 3.8.5 and it isn't there.
06:34 mveron
06:35 cait hm I think it waqs quite recent
06:36 cait added I mean
06:36 * mveron waves to cait :-)
06:36 * cait waves back
06:36 cait still wakiing up :)
06:36 mveron Morgenstund hat Gold im Mund :-)
06:37 cait heh
06:38 mveron Aurora habet aurum in ore  :-)
06:38 mveron Wikipedia :-)
06:40 * mveron needs some coffee
06:40 cait :)
06:40 mtompset Nah, you just need a M.D. -- Mountain Dew. Maybe some Vitamin C (Coke). ;)
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06:42 cait hi druthb
06:42 cait druthb?
06:42 wahanui druthb is
06:42 druthb Hi
06:43 mtompset Greetings, druthb. I thought you were going to get a newer photo? Haven't had time yet?
06:44 druthb Nope.   Probably this weekend.
06:44 mtompset Oh, I tried to follow the link. It's not working for me.
06:46 druthb !  I'll check on that.  It's waaaay out of date.  I haven't blogged since May.  :/
06:46 mtompset BTW, I like the simple yet functional layout of the page.
06:47 druthb is pretty slick.  Nice for an online biz card like that
06:49 mtompset My difficulty would be getting a decent photo. I'm only photogenic when I fork out big bucks to professional photographers. :(
06:51 druthb Heh.  I'm not very photogenic.  I manage not to scare lil kids with this face, but that's about it
06:53 druthb Cait's opinion on my photogenic-ness may not agree with mine.
06:54 mtompset We are our own worst critics, are we not?
06:54 * cait nods
06:54 cait mtompset: that's the problem, yes
06:54 druthb Frequently
06:58 balin Sorry if I repeat myself (more people awake now): is there any way to force koha to make links "https" rather than "http"?
06:59 cait yes, we do that for our installations
06:59 mtompset Perhaps specify the Intranet/OPAC urls expressly that way in the system preferences?
06:59 cait I tihnk you have to do something in your apache configuration
06:59 balin system preferences as in gui or on the fs?
07:00 cait system preferences are in administraiton in the gui
07:00 cait but I am not sure it will be enough
07:00 cait and to really make it work nicely oyu will need certificates
07:00 cait it's more a system administration kind of thing
07:00 mtompset No, because you will have to tweak your apache settings to listen to 443?
07:00 mtompset Shoot... I forget the port number.
07:01 druthb 443, yes
07:01 mtompset Yes, it is 443... so you'll have to tell apache to listen on 443 instead of 80.
07:01 mtompset I think /etc/apache2/ports.conf?
07:01 druthb Yep
07:02 mtompset and /etc/apache2/sites-available/library
07:02 druthb Then the virtualhost configs
07:04 mtompset (well, if library was your instance name)
07:06 mveron I did following search:  git log -SJSON::Any --pretty=oneline --abbrev-commit
07:06 mveron ...and got: Bug 8233: Followup: Search engine layer: Add dependencies.
07:06 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8233 major, P2, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , New search engine layer - introduce solr without breaking anything else
07:07 cait ah
07:09 mtompset That would have been my guess -- let's blame Solr. ;)
07:11 mtompset Instead of Milli Vanilli's hit, "Blame it on the Rain" we'll have "Blame it on Solr"
07:15 mveron I commented the bug.
07:16 * mveron has to head away
07:34 balin I will opt for nginx to just redirect everything to "https" - let's see whether that's going to wor.
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07:53 mtompset Okay... question... I need some git advice.
07:53 mtompset Let's pretend I've never used git before.
07:53 mtompset I've cloned up the koha git.
07:54 mtompset should I build off what I just cloned, or should I check something out before I build?
07:54 cait create a new branc
07:54 cait never change master
07:54 cait always use a new branch for any changes
07:55 cait hm for installation I think it should be ok to do without a branch
07:55 mtompset and there's my dilemma.
07:56 mtompset Who could give me an authoritative answer?
07:57 cait ?
07:58 mtompset I'm working on the git instructions for Ubuntu.
07:58 mtompset Right now, the way they are written. It does a detached head.
07:59 mtompset I think that was a bad idea on my part.
07:59 liw mtompset, it's your local repository, you're allowed to do anything you like with it; however, it's easier to do any commits to a dedicated branch rather than directly to master, for easier collaboration with others; if you're not making any commits, you should be able to build off master no problem
08:00 mtompset Okay. I'll go with a branch. I don't want to go in a direction that makes it harder for newbies (like myself) on a forward basis.
08:29 mtompset Thank you for your feedback, liw. :)
08:31 liw mtompset, you're welcome
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09:50 mtompset Greetings, Oak and drojf.
09:50 mtompset How goes it?
09:51 Oak hello mtompset :)
09:51 Oak how are you?
09:51 mtompset Tired and stressed. Nothing new. :)
09:52 mtompset I'm doing a git installation to test the Ubuntu instructions... they need to get tested.
09:52 mtompset I never made it completely through yet.
09:52 Oak :) hmmm
09:53 mtompset I'm at the "make" step now. :)
10:06 mtompset Okay "make test" with a few failures.
10:07 mtompset Now to document how to handle them.
10:18 drojf hi #koha
10:19 mtompset That was a slow reply, drojf. ;)
10:21 drojf sorry, still waking up ;)
10:22 mtompset Sounds like a coffee commercial is needed. "The best part of waking up, is folgers in your cup."
10:23 drojf no coffee for me, got club mate (a softdrinknwith yerba mate) for my coffeine needs
10:25 mtompset wow... make test just got noisier!
10:26 drojf as in errors?
10:29 mtompset warnings, as rangi would insist. ;)
10:30 mtompset had to install libdbd-mock-perl and libcache-memcache-fast-perl to get the tests to pass.
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11:43 balin Hi. Worked around my https/http issue when accessing z39.50 search in cataloging by nginx rewriting. I can now actually query the LOC but when I try to import the result I hit this erreo:
11:43 balin "Can't call method "title" without a package or object reference at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-​bin/cataloguing/ line 828."
11:43 balin What might this mean?
11:50 cait hm
11:50 cait ich bin mir nicht sicher
11:51 cait in den system preferences, steht dort bei marcflavour marc21?
11:51 cait und unter mehr > über Koha - sind dort die pakete alle grün?
11:51 cait bzw. wird angezeigt, dass etwas fehlt?
12:04 jcamins_away mtompset: there's already a patch for that.
12:05 jcamins Wow.
12:06 jcamins I'm running a security scanner against master.
12:06 jcamins I started it... more than 9 hours ago.
12:08 jcamins (and it's still running)
12:09 mtompset How do you search bugzilla so you can find those? I never can seem to find anything.
12:09 cait if a bug mght be closed, using ALL in front of your search words might help
12:09 cait and more general searches work better for me
12:10 cait so not trying to use the advanced search, just one or 2 simple but specific keywords
12:10 cait and hi mtompset and jcamins
12:11 jcamins mtompset: search for "sneakily."
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12:14 mtompset That doesn't solve a lack in the or ubuntu.packages -- but it does explain the explosion in errors.
12:14 jcamins @query dependencies
12:14 huginn jcamins: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2092 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Koha should support Unicode 6
12:14 huginn jcamins: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5599 normal, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , and don't compare $VERSION numbers correctly
12:14 huginn jcamins: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8402 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , replace 'install_misc/debian.packages' file with '' script
12:14 huginn jcamins: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2131 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Enhanced Content - Multiple Choices
12:14 huginn jcamins: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4847 minor, P5 - low, ---, robin, NEW , Python required for Debian package builds
12:14 jcamins @query missing dependencies
12:14 huginn jcamins: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5599 normal, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , and don't compare $VERSION numbers correctly
12:14 huginn jcamins: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8402 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , replace 'install_misc/debian.packages' file with '' script
12:14 huginn jcamins: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5327 enhancement, P3, ---,, ASSIGNED , Omnibus for unit tests required for all C4 modules
12:14 huginn jcamins: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8636 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Some dependencies are not listed by the installer
12:14 huginn jcamins: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7409 normal, P5 - low, ---, robin, In Discussion , Missing dependencies for Debian package
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12:17 jcamins mtompset: both those packages were added to PerlDependencies ages ago.
12:18 jcamins I think probably you need to update your git repository.
12:19 mtompset I just cloned it!
12:19 mtompset i was doing a fresh from scratch install.
12:19 mtompset libdbd-mock-perl and ....
12:19 mtompset not required.
12:19 mtompset I am positive I read a bug where Chris was going to remove the memcached one.
12:20 jcamins He is going to move the Memcached dependency that isn't used.
12:20 mtompset But I didn't write it down. ARG!
12:20 mtompset cached-memcached-fast IS used.
12:20 mtompset that's why the test failed.
12:20 mtompset and if it is only used in tests, then the tests need changing too.
12:21 jcamins That would be why Chris isn't removing it.
12:21 jcamins Chris is removing the memcached dependency that isn't used.
12:22 mtompset The problem we have with dependencies is that it needs to be in 3/4 places right now.
12:23 mtompset So the build debian/control is fine.
12:23 mtompset but a git/tarball install fails on the tests when -m -u says everything is not required.
12:24 jcamins Add a note on bug 8636.
12:24 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8636 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Some dependencies are not listed by the installer
12:27 balin cait: sorry for the delay ... kids are very distracting: marflovour is marc21 ... DateTime::TimeZone requires an update, but should that be it?
12:27 jcamins balin: how did you solve the first problem with a rewrite rule?
12:29 cait balin: I will let take jcamins over - because I am not good on the server administration sides and no more ideas
12:30 * jcamins can't promise anything.
12:30 balin jcamins:
12:31 balin That's part of my nginx config and rewrites all incomming calls to http with https ...
12:31 jcamins Oh-ho.
12:31 jcamins I _was_ on the right track.
12:31 jcamins It's just that the link doesn't obey staffclientbaseurl.
12:32 jcamins What are you forwarding to?
12:32 balin to a lxc container that runs koha
12:33 jcamins Ooh, lxc will perfectly meet my needs.
12:33 balin the link obeys staff client base url, but one can't configure "https" there ...
12:34 jcamins Oooh. That's a problem.
12:34 balin just recently started with lxc ... love it ... so easy to play and just scrap things ... I have base systems for debian testing, stale ,etc. lying around, which I just can clone and add too ... lovely!
12:35 jcamins It'll do very well for testing the Koha release process, I think.
12:35 balin but now I anyway have this ""Can't call method "title" without a package or object reference at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-​bin/cataloguing/ line 828." problem when trying to import from the library of conress ... any insight?
12:35 jcamins You're on 3.8.5, right?
12:36 balin Koha version:
12:36 jcamins Are you using Apache in the lxc box?
12:36 balin yes.
12:37 jcamins Okay, so it's not a Plack thing.
12:37 balin vanilla install in ... nginx on the host forwards to ...
12:38 jcamins Installed using package you said... correct?
12:38 balin yes.
12:40 balin MARC bibliographic framework test tells me: item type not defined at least 1 item type must be definedf - might that be it? I guess I need some howto on how to start playing with this after installation ... pointers?
12:41 jcamins Oh.
12:41 jcamins Yes, that might be it.
12:42 jcamins Well, probably not item types.
12:42 jcamins Maybe.
12:42 balin there isn't a bunch of predefined types?
12:42 jcamins Not unless you select them.
12:43 balin where?
12:43 jcamins You need to make sure you have at least one library, one item type, and one patron category.
12:43 jcamins In the installer.
12:43 jcamins At the very beginning.
12:43 jcamins It's easy to add an item type.
12:43 balin can the installer be rerun or do I have to start all over?
12:44 jcamins It cannot be rerun, but I see no reason to start over.
12:44 jcamins It's very easy.
12:44 jcamins Most people do not use the sample item types.
12:46 balin Defining a item type "Book" - am I to naive her? - and re-running the import produces the same error.
12:46 jcamins Okay.
12:46 jcamins We've ruled that out, then.
12:47 balin patron category is in the works ... gimme a sec.
12:47 jcamins Can you try accessing the Apache server directly?
12:47 balin You mean without forwarding?
12:47 jcamins Right.
12:48 balin That's kinda tricky, as it's a remote server ... will try port forwarding in the course of the evening and report back, ok?
12:48 jcamins Actually, let me try 3.8.5 on a spare VM.
12:48 * jcamins forgot that he now has a spare VM. :)
12:50 jcamins Okay, it worked fine for me.
12:51 jcamins And no combination of CGI arguments causes that to happen.
12:53 jcamins Yeah, I think the next thing is to try port forwarding.
12:54 balin Grrr ... a defined patron category doesn't change things either ... port forwarding thus needs to be explored.
12:55 jcamins Actually, one more thing.
12:55 jcamins Create a new user, give it superlibrarian privileges, and log in as that user.
12:55 jcamins You must currently be logged in as the database user?
12:56 jcamins Wait.
12:56 jcamins I see the problem.
12:56 jcamins What is the URI you are accessing, exactly?
12:56 jcamins With all the params.
12:56 jcamins (you can redact the server name)
12:57 jcamins And, just to confirm, you don't have any records in this database, do you?
13:30 mtompset Shoot. I must have done something wrong. It's trying to index my git install as koha.koha
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14:15 mtompset YAY! Figured out how to get it to work properly. Silly environment variables to by pass unset configuration variables.
14:28 balin jcamins: "cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/​r=-1&z3950=1&frameworkcode=Default&breedingid=-1"
14:28 balin No records, no.
14:28 balin And yes, database user
14:28 jcamins balin: okay... it shouldn't be possible to have a link like that.
14:28 jcamins breedingid should be positive.
14:29 balin aha. But where is this coming from? Need to be a superlibrarian?
14:32 jcamins No, that has nothing to do with it.
14:32 jcamins It was a red herring.
14:32 jcamins (the user)
14:33 jcamins I fear it is something specific to lxc.
14:33 balin so whats ablue one ? ;)
14:34 jcamins Hehe.
14:34 balin Will see whether portforwarding gets me further tonight.
14:34 jcamins Yeah, that'd be the next thing to try.
14:40 mtompset jcamins, do you do your git installs for koha as a koha user, or as yourself?
14:41 jcamins As myself.
14:41 jcamins If you're doing a git install, you can expected to know how to modify the init scripts.
14:41 jcamins If you don't know how to modify the init scripts, you shouldn't be doing a git install.
14:42 mtompset Yes, but an install without having to edit the init scripts is nicer. :)
14:42 mtompset And I found a way. :)
14:43 jcamins Yes, don't run the init scripts as root.
14:43 mtompset The Ubuntu git instructions are almost at an "acceptable, but not perfect" state.
14:43 mtompset Without running as root. :P
14:43 mtompset Still needs a couple more passes.
14:43 jcamins mtompset: but are they so long that no one will ever read through them now?
14:44 mtompset Some of that is related to things that need to get cut.
14:44 jcamins I have to tell you I have never encountered anyone running into problems doing a git install when what they actually wanted was a git install.
14:45 mtompset well, except for dependencies... and users it wasn't too bad.
14:46 mtompset But given that master is development... dependency issues are to be expected a bit. :)
14:46 jcamins mtompset: I have been on this channel more-or-less continuously for two years. Never in that time has someone qualified to run a git install reported that the instructions were unclear.
14:47 mtompset It's not that they were unclear... they required leaps of familiarity.
14:47 * cait_away agrees with jcamins
14:47 cait_away I did it almost without any linux knowledge
14:47 cait_away about... um 4 years ago or so
14:48 jcamins Wow. Running a console in tmux is kind of weird.
15:01 cait_away hm I am sorry
15:03 jcamins cait: not a problem, it's just kind of odd the way that tmux and the console emulator interact.
15:06 * cait didn't excactly mean that
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15:10 student hi im writing a paper on koha and im interested to find out if there are any add on features
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15:12 okayhi im currently writing a paper on koha and interested in if there are any add ons
15:12 cait hm
15:12 cait mibbit?
15:12 wahanui well, mibbit is linked from
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15:12 mtompset same person coming and going.
15:13 okayhi hello
15:13 okayhi what modules does koha have?
15:14 mtompset Sadly, I can't answer that as I'm on my way out.
15:14 mtompset Sorry.
15:14 mtompset Have a good day (24 hour period), #koha.
15:14 cait okayhi: sorry, but we can't wrote your home work for you
15:14 cait i suggest you take a look at one of the demos
15:14 cait and if you can't find a module or function you can ask
15:14 cait there is also a lot of documentation around
15:14 cait demos?
15:14 cait manual?
15:14 wahanui manual is at
15:14 cait that's the manaul
15:15 cait I will find the demo link for you
15:15 cait
15:16 cait and make sure you stay on websites
15:16 okayhi thanks
15:19 okayhi does koha have federated searching?
15:23 jcamins okayhi: have you read the manual?
15:23 jcamins I think you will find it answers many of your questions.
15:33 jcamins Apparently suggesting looking at the manual was offensive.
15:43 liw jcamins, it often is :(
15:43 liw in my youth I was naive and co-founded the linux documentation project; I've learnt since that other people never read manuals :)
15:44 jcamins liw: yes, but I feel like you should be doing that if you're in library school writing a paper purporting to be about an open source system.
15:45 liw jcamins, I do not disagree
15:45 jcamins I didn't think you would.
15:45 jcamins lxc is really cool.
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15:46 jcamins Unfortunately, I'm not understanding how to control it from outside the container.
15:46 druthb o/
15:46 jcamins Well, ssh, I guess.
15:48 * jcamins wants to use lxc-start-ephemeral to test installation and configuration of releases.
16:39 balin jcamins two ways: ssh but there is also a lxc-console
16:39 balin I suse ssh ...
16:39 balin use ... suse? brrrr ... DEBIAN!
16:44 jcamins balin: my challenge is that lxc-console is interactive-only, and I'm still trying to figure out how to get the IP address for SSH.
16:44 balin <topdir> contains a config (and the rootfs) ... its defined in the config.
16:46 jcamins That only seems to work for regular containers, not ephemeral containers.
16:46 jcamins Ooh, I know.
16:46 balin sorry - ephermal is not my cup of tea yet ...
16:47 jcamins I can have the ephemeral container do some sort of SSH thing to connect to the host.
16:48 * jcamins doesn't know what sort of SSH thing it could do.
16:49 balin jcamins ... kids in bed, so I just went away from my nginx setup and tried with a plain port DNATing from the host (outside port) to the koha-lxc container ... I keep seeing the "Can't call method "title" without a package or object reference at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-​bin/cataloguing/ line 828."
16:50 jcamins Really? This is bizarre.
16:50 jcamins Any chance you could do a screen capture of how you're trying to import a record?
16:59 jcamins I see why biblionumber=-1&breedingid=-1 would cause that error, but I don't see how one could get those arguments.
16:59 balin jcamins - screen shots done. Wher could I upload them?
17:01 jcamins balin: is fine.
17:01 jcamins A lot of people use, but anywhere will work.
17:04 balin the logs only show the same error ... I have marked with squiggly red what buttons/links I pressed ...
17:05 jcamins Thanks.
17:06 balin imgur hanging on the 2nd image of 5 ...
17:07 balin trying again.
17:07 balin hanging on the first one this time.
17:12 balin jcamins:
17:13 balin have to run now ... will check on response later ...
17:13 jcamins Oh, I see.
17:13 balin What am I screwing up?
17:14 jcamins balin: your settings for the LC Z39.50 server are not correct. It's not actually downloading any records, it's just displaying a spare error message with an import button.
17:15 jcamins They should look like this:
17:18 balin dooh ... will try again later. Thanks!
17:20 jcamins You're welcome.
17:20 jcamins Good luck.
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21:08 jcamins wajasu: as I recall you were working on changing your development system over to using lxc.
21:09 jcamins wajasu: did you do that? If so, how do you share files between the container and the host?
21:11 wajasu ok.
21:11 wajasu funny you asked.
21:11 jcamins Uh-oh.
21:12 wajasu i am in the process of migrating to systemd today, as it seems that archlinux  and most distros are taking this route.
21:12 jcamins I have learned that sshfs requires unacceptable compromises to security.
21:13 wajasu in the VM, i had to edit /etc/fuser  or such to use  allow_other
21:13 wajasu but ii was just using my VM sa a test/dev VM, not prod.
21:14 wajasu i acutally started to set up lxc last night, and needed to use do some cgroups related config, so i put it off a bit.
21:14 jcamins Ah, actual VM.
21:15 jcamins Right.
21:16 wajasu i i did clean up my VM build script, and it takes 4 minutes to creates a koha-common based VM, and i usually just sshfs the /home/koha/kohaclone from my hostOS, which has my git repos.
21:18 jcamins My host is a VM, so I figure it's best not to run  a VM under a VM.
21:22 wajasu nested VMs is probably not viable without some headaches, but if i get my systemd migration done, i will mess with the lxc option.
21:24 wajasu i looked into using libguestfs, and febootstrap (wich supports multiple distros) and  run the containiers with kvm with libvirt
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