IRC log for #koha, 2012-09-13

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00:00 drojf excuse
00:00 wahanui drojf: backup tape overwritten with copy of system manager's favourite CD
00:00 drojf excuse
00:00 wahanui drojf: Software uses US measurements, but the OS is in metric...
00:01 drojf can i add excuses too? it needs "my bot ate it" ;)
00:01 jcamins excuse!
00:01 wahanui jcamins: Your Pentium has a heating problem - try cooling it with ice cold water.(Do not turn off your computer, you do not want to cool down the Pentium Chip while he isn't working, do you?)
00:01 jcamins lol
00:01 jcamins excuse!
00:01 wahanui jcamins: SCSI Chain overterminated
00:01 jcamins excuse!
00:01 wahanui jcamins: Your mail is being routed through Germany ... and they're censoring us.
00:01 jcamins lol
00:02 drojf lol
00:02 jcamins drojf: stop that!
00:02 drojf jcamins: use gnupg! ;)
00:04 drojf i think i meant openpgp in general. magical encryption things. and george torwell!
00:04 drojf excuse
00:04 wahanui drojf: divide-by-zero error
00:04 drojf haha i can use that everywhere
00:05 drojf "why are you late for work?" -- "my alarm clock divided by zero and imploded"
00:05 jcamins lol
00:09 drojf gotta go to bed because
00:09 drojf excuse
00:09 wahanui drojf: Complete Transient Lockout
00:09 drojf good night :)
00:09 rangi cya
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00:18 Waylon hello all
00:19 Waylon needing to redo install of koha  2.8.4 from git. i need to rebase to it, then hard reset, right?
00:19 * Waylon forgot.
00:21 mtompset You mean 3.8.4, right? Sorry, I don't know the answer to your question.
00:21 Waylon seems rebase not required.. adn yes... 3.8.4
00:21 Waylon its origin/3.8.4?
00:22 mtompset Why not use the tag? v3.08.04 (I think)?
00:22 wajasu git tag --list   to see
00:22 Waylon how does one reset to a tag?
00:22 wajasu or branch from a tag
00:22 Waylon just git reset --hard origin/v3.08.04?
00:23 wajasu man git-branch     there are examples that show how to branch from a known tag
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00:24 wajasu git checkout -b my384 v3.08.04     should work
00:26 Waylon okay, how do i doublecheck that i infact have 3.08.04?
00:26 mtompset cat
00:26 Waylon yup
00:26 Waylon okay, yes, looks like i got it.
00:26 Waylon yay!
00:41 jcamins Waylon: why are you branching off of version 3.8.4?
00:41 Waylon hmm? most stable currently?
00:42 Waylon or has that changed?
00:42 jcamins Waylon: I would check out the branch.
00:42 jcamins git checkout -b my3.8.x origin/3.8.x
00:43 Waylon hmm? latest 3.8, is stable enough?
00:43 jcamins Then if you choose to update, you can just merge in 3.8.x.
00:43 Waylon for production/
00:43 jcamins Waylon: I would think.
00:43 Waylon hmmmmmm.
00:43 jcamins You might check with rangi about that, though.
00:44 jcamins My rule of thumb is that git is not for production, and if you're using git, you should probably be using a branch and not a tag because clearly you're trying to track something.
00:44 jcamins rangi: can you merge in tags, too?
00:44 jcamins That just occurred to me.
00:45 jcamins If you can do that, you could check out the tag on a branch, then just merge in the 3.8.5 tag, etc.
00:45 Waylon well, im currently using git, because thats correct method to track devel. im currently setting up, to port my changes to 3.0.0pre2, to a stable 3.8.4
00:45 Waylon port = totally reimplement.
00:45 jcamins Right.
00:45 jcamins That's a good idea.
00:46 Waylon got a long list of ..  16 odd mods that the company i do work for, relies on.
00:46 jcamins Is the plan to keep this a closed-source fork? Because you're just going to end up stuck on 3.8 after it's EOLed if you are developing against 3.8.x.
00:46 Waylon most ofthe mods ive done... a few i didnt.
00:46 Waylon no, intend to opensource it.
00:47 jcamins Then you might want to seriously consider developing against master.
00:47 jcamins It's easy to backport to 3.8.x.
00:47 jcamins Forward porting from 3.8.x to master (soon to be the development version for 3.12) tends to be more difficult.
00:47 jcamins At least, that was my experience.
00:47 jcamins rangi: would you agree?
00:48 * jcamins defers on all things development process to rangi.
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00:48 Waylon hmm? what if the master includes features that only exist in master, that i use to base my mods off,  backporting breaks the mods, can't very well backport the features too, that sounds too difficult.
00:49 jcamins Waylon: you're going to have to do the exact same thing in reverse.
00:50 jcamins I find developing on master and backporting easier because I know what the situation is with *both* branches I'm interested in.
00:50 jcamins If you develop on 3.8.x, by the time you're ready to forward port to 3.12 or 3.14, none of your assumptions will be valid.
00:51 Waylon right. but do you find yourself having to backport features that others have made, to the backport target?
00:51 jcamins If your work depends on a feature in 3.10, you're going to need that in 3.8 regardless.
00:51 jcamins Only if I specifically want that feature.
00:51 jcamins Of course, I backport only a limited amount.
00:52 jcamins Because otherwise you end up with a fork that has to be reconciled from scratch again.
00:53 jcamins Here's an example of a workflow.
00:53 jcamins I needed local cover images for production.
00:53 jcamins That was developed for 3.8.x.
00:54 jcamins I backported it to 3.6.x without too much misery.
00:55 Waylon in general, how stable is the master anyway? with all the git hygene, critical and showstoppers should seldom occur? mandumah only uses membership,cataloguing, catalogue, branches, sysprefs, marc frameworks and tools/log, anyway.. its not an actual physical library,no issues/returns/accquisitions occur.
00:55 jcamins I had previously developed an alternate implementation against 3.5 (development version of 3.6). I threw that out in its entirety because I would've had to rewrite it from scratch for it to be usable.
00:55 jcamins I wouldn't use master in production.
00:56 Waylon hmm. what of 3.10?
00:56 jcamins You're too late for getting code into 3.10, if that's what you mean.
00:56 jcamins If you're asking how stable it's going to be, I don't know.
00:56 jcamins I use 3.6.
00:56 Waylon no.. not for getting code into it, for developing against it.
00:57 jcamins Well, you are de facto developing against 3.10 during feature freeze.
00:57 jcamins It's better than developing against 3.8, anyway.
00:57 Waylon or should i just devel on master, backport to 3.10?
00:57 jcamins ^^ that's what you should do.
00:58 jcamins And submit patches early and often, so you don't have to do any further work to get the changes into 3.12.
00:58 Waylon wondering how much time this will cost.. all this porting around.
00:58 jcamins How much time has it taken for you to develop against 3.8.4?
00:58 Waylon haven't started yet.
00:58 jcamins Oh, good.
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00:59 Waylon what im asking is, is it going to be worth it, worth my boss paying for it?
00:59 jcamins My rule of thumb is that porting a feature forward more than one stable branch will take just as much time as rewriting it from scratch. Porting a feature forward one branch will take half that time.
00:59 jcamins Porting a feature backwards one or two branches will take a tenth of that time.
01:00 jcamins Basically he has to decide whether he'd rather fork Koha (at the expense of future developments by people other than you) to save some money now, or do it right, to save money down the road.
01:00 Waylon right, so its better, developing on master, and porting back to a stable branch, than it is developing on stable, and porting forward to master?
01:00 jcamins Oh yes.
01:01 jcamins I try to avoid testing the first part of that rule of thumb for obvious reasons.
01:01 Waylon okay... so i need two directories then, kohadev and kohastable?
01:01 jcamins No.
01:01 jcamins You have kohaclone with your repo.
01:02 jcamins And you have branches where you do development, then you backport the developments to stable.
01:03 jcamins Best is to develop each feature on a separate branch, then merge them all together into one integration branch.
01:03 jcamins That way, as you finish each feature, you can submit it, and maybe even get it into Koha before you've finished the next.
01:03 Waylon hmm? i mean, i need to set up this box with both master and stable, stable being configured for normal use, master being used in subdomain. Currently, this is the devel box, but once the reimplementation is done, its the production.
01:03 jcamins (^^ huge money saver)
01:03 jcamins Oh.
01:03 jcamins Then yes.
01:04 jcamins I didn't realize you were doing development on your production machine.
01:04 Waylon sadly, yes.
01:04 jcamins (aside: this seems like a bad idea)
01:04 Waylon well.. tis not current production.
01:05 jcamins Well, that's better, anyway. :)
01:05 Waylon but once reimplementation is finished, the current production will be moved to this box, and decommissioned.
01:05 Waylon and im hoping the funds from that can go to a new dev box.
01:06 jcamins Ah, got it. That makes a certain amount of sense. Once you've done the major developments, you probably don't need such a hefty server for development.
01:06 Waylon yeah.
01:07 Waylon okay.. so.. a simple copy of the master, to kohastable, then branch to 3.10?
01:07 Waylon or a new git clone then checkout branch down?
01:07 mtompset too late? He has 9 days, doesn't he?
01:08 Waylon haha! i am not going to get these 16 mods done in 9 days.
01:08 Waylon thats crazy talk.
01:08 mtompset Sleep is irrelevant. ;)
01:09 mtompset By the way, it's nice to see you again, Waylon.
01:09 * Waylon can't remember you sadly, mtompset
01:10 mtompset Well it was only once or twice a couple months back.
01:10 Waylon and for some reason, i think jcamins is that bot, all the time.
01:10 Waylon Waylon?
01:10 wahanui Waylon: tell wahanui's bosses that the performance issue is because of the version, and there's no way to improve it unless they shell out to get the local modifications integrated.
01:10 mtompset jcamins?
01:10 wahanui it has been said that jcamins is A-Grade developper on Koha willing to rewrite it from top to bottom. Good Luck jcamins or a very naughty wahanui teacher
01:11 Waylon liblime?
01:11 wahanui liblime is no brandcuffs
01:11 mtompset brandcuffs?
01:11 mtompset What are brandcuffs?
01:11 Waylon think something you want to beat up?
01:12 Waylon anyway.
01:13 Waylon .... jcamins, ack.. should i just start again with master, then copy to kohastable directory, git checkout to 3.10/
01:13 Waylon ?
01:15 mtompset 3.10 is released November 22.
01:16 mtompset I mean will be.
01:16 jcamins What you are going to do is just develop against master first.
01:16 jcamins You develop in a separate branch.
01:16 mtompset git?
01:16 wahanui it has been said that git is[…]Control_Using_Git
01:16 Waylon yes think, devel against  master first, then when everythings reimplemented, port back? or should i port back after each mod done?
01:17 jcamins That's up to you.
01:17 mtompset How long do you think these mods will take?
01:17 Waylon no idea.
01:17 jcamins What I would do, I'd start with one.
01:17 jcamins Once that's done, I'd decide whether I wanted to port it back right away, or wait.
01:17 Waylon haven't read through much of the current koha code.
01:18 Waylon ah.. put off that decision until later?
01:18 jcamins If it's going to take three months to make the changes, backporting to 3.10 is going to be pretty easy, really.
01:18 mtompset Because if they take you 3-4 months, then perhaps a backport isn't necessary? And you can get the changes into 3.10.x, and jump to that in production?
01:18 jcamins The first features will have been developed against the 3.10 code, basically.
01:18 jcamins mtompset: well, features aren't eligible for inclusion in stable branches.
01:18 Waylon right.
01:19 mtompset Ah, so he would have to backport. Okay. Nevermind. :)
01:19 jcamins So rather than planning out backporting now, you wait until you have something, then decide whether you backport one at a time (which makes sense if you need a semi-production server right away) or wait until the end, so as to minimize the need for resolving conflicts.
01:19 Waylon okay. so, first, i reset my clone to master, do the devel work on at least one feature to get it done, then git co 3.10 into a fresh directory, backport changes to it, and repeat?
01:20 mtompset Doesn't sound quite right.
01:20 jcamins No, that's much more complicated than it needs to be.
01:20 Waylon hrm?
01:20 mtompset git clone the master.
01:21 mtompset branch your development.
01:21 jcamins No.
01:21 mtompset no?
01:21 jcamins Step one: check out feature branch. Let's say you're developing a feature you call xyz.
01:21 jcamins mtompset: no, we already have a perfectly serviceable kohaclone.
01:21 mtompset true.
01:21 jcamins Remember, we were just trying to reset it.
01:21 jcamins So, feature xyz.
01:21 Waylon git reset --hard origin/master to get back to master?
01:22 jcamins You check out a branch based on master for developing feature xyz: git checkout -b xyz origin/master
01:22 jcamins You now have a new branch just for developing feature xyz.
01:22 Waylon okay, how do i delete the branch i creatred already?
01:22 jcamins You develop.
01:22 jcamins Every so often, maybe you even rebase: git rebase origin/master
01:22 mtompset refresh my memory... what is git/rebase?
01:23 jcamins After you check out the new branch, you run: git branch -d my384
01:23 Waylon merging code with the current tip.
01:23 jcamins Actually, rebase is for putting your code on top of the current tip.
01:23 jcamins So, you've developed xyz.
01:23 jcamins Then, you want to backport.
01:24 Waylon hmm... what feature do i want to port first... -sighs-
01:24 jcamins So you check out an integration branch based on 3.10: git checkout -b mamduha_integration origin/3.10.x
01:25 jcamins Then you cherry-pick your features from your feature branch: git cherry-pick {COMMIT_ID}
01:25 jcamins Fix any conflicts.
01:25 jcamins You're done.
01:25 Waylon and then copy the resulting changes to 3.10, to a new directory?
01:26 mtompset No? Why?
01:26 mtompset (thinking out loud)
01:26 jcamins No.
01:26 jcamins You already have the changes.
01:26 Waylon or you constantly going backwards and forwards inside the same directory?
01:26 jcamins Exactly.
01:26 jcamins You can't develop in more than one repo without going mad.
01:26 Waylon so how does one save your new 3.10?
01:26 mtompset That's the point of the cherry-pick.
01:27 jcamins It's saved the moment you do the cherry-pick.
01:27 * Waylon doesn't get it.
01:27 jcamins git?
01:27 wahanui rumour has it git is[…]Control_Using_Git
01:27 jcamins ^^ there's a good reading list on there.
01:27 mtompset Don't worry... git is confusing.
01:28 jcamins I know it's good, because it's the reading list I used to learn git, and I grok git now. :)
01:28 mtompset It'll make sense with more use.
01:28 jcamins Yes.
01:29 Waylon hmm... every branch in git, is like a seperate directory? so when i switch branches, no changes to any other branch occurs, all previous uncommited changes, stay?
01:30 jcamins You can't switch branches when you have uncommitted changes.
01:30 jcamins It will refuse.
01:30 Waylon or after finishing the new feature in mandumah_integration, do i git commit to it?
01:30 jcamins So you commit the changes to the branch they belong on.
01:31 jcamins The cherry-pick does the commit for the integration branch (and if there's a conflict you need to resolve, it'll give you instructions for how to deal with that).
01:31 * jcamins has to leave.
01:31 jcamins It's late here.
01:31 Waylon so.. mod on feature branch, git commit, git branch to mandumah, cherrypick, git commit after fixing conflicts, then new feature branch?
01:31 jcamins_away Exactly.
01:32 Waylon and when mandumah branch is ready for production, what then?
01:32 Waylon just copy it over to its new home?
01:32 jcamins_away Right. *Then* you copy it.
01:32 mtj and there shouldnt be conflicts, in your example too
01:33 mtompset Greetings, mtj.
01:33 mtj … as your feature-branch was 'branched' from master, anyhoo...
01:33 jcamins_away mtj: integration branch is on 3.10.x, so by the time the last feature is finished, there might be.
01:34 mtj ah, yes - against a moving master, thats true
01:35 mtj Waylon,  thanks for the mysq.sql.gz , too :)
01:38 Waylon ah you mean from pnts, yea.
01:38 Waylon man, its a mess.
01:39 mtj did you send me a dump, before you fixed it?
01:39 mtj or after?
01:40 Waylon ah? after, all i did was point the config paths to a directory that actually had the template files in them.
01:41 Waylon or that is.. actually point them somewhere.. in /etc/koha.conf, intrahtdocs wasn't even specified.
01:41 * mtompset grumbles that installing koha-common is as annoying as doing a build. ;)
01:41 Waylon ah? try dealing with koha 2.2.8, mtompset
01:42 mtompset No, your situation is MUCH more painful and annoying.
01:42 Waylon on windows XP!
01:42 Waylon not my worry right now, its mtj's.
01:42 mtompset you serious?! You have patches against code under Windows?!
01:42 Waylon enjoy mtj.
01:42 Waylon no no.
01:43 Waylon im doing koha 3.0.0pre2.. to current.
01:43 mtompset Under windows?
01:43 Waylon mtj has to upgrade a koha 2.2.8 fully functional, unmodded library to current, along with intergrate the data into another koha database.
01:43 mtj Waylon so, did the koha *ever* run on the xp-box?
01:44 Waylon yea, mtj, it runs.
01:44 mtj did the koha *ever* run on the xp-box?
01:44 * mtompset cries, "The horror. The horror."
01:44 Waylon runs well... but it is 2.2.8... which runs on anything. even a shared website hosting.
01:44 * Waylon did that once, to prove a point.
01:45 Waylon but i wouldn't dare try running 3.anything on shared hosting, too many dependancies.
01:45 mtompset Waylon: jcamins and others helped a university get theirs working on Plesk (DO NOT USE PLESK!)
01:45 mtj Waylon, so any idea why is stopped running?
01:45 Waylon not with the security issues plesk has had recently.
01:46 mtj i assume someone edited the koha.conf config file? yeah?
01:46 Waylon mtj, no idea .... seems like someone came along and edited a config file yeah.
01:46 Waylon and forgot to back up the original.
01:46 mtj ok, thats… great :/
01:46 Waylon so .. its working now.
01:46 Waylon at least the intranet is.
01:46 mtj all good, thanks for the help
01:46 Waylon which is what they use.
01:47 mtj ok im off, bbiab....
01:47 Waylon laters
01:47 mtompset Bye, mtj.
01:48 * mtompset grumbles, "'Processing triggers for man-db ...' -- that should be 'Taking forever, go have a nap ...'"
01:48 Waylon okay, what support does koha master have for downloading pdf files?
01:48 mtompset downloading?
01:49 mtompset You can nicely link to external PDF sources.
01:49 Waylon as in... 856u, i think, for url, to download button/
01:49 Waylon ?
01:49 mtompset Yes, Koha supports that.
01:49 mtompset 856$u is settable.
01:49 Waylon it is 856u right, that makes a download button appear?
01:50 mtompset It's just a hyperlink.
01:50 mtompset you click it and get the PDF.
01:50 Waylon right, which can be hidden, in a search, but shown as being downloadable?
01:50 mtompset right click and download/save as.
01:51 mtompset You don't see the link until you view details.
01:51 Waylon right.. in the search results, does it tell you that a pdf is on record?
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01:53 mtompset The first link.
02:02 Waylon hmmm.. so by default, a 856u does not get shown in search results, thats a mod i'll have to make?
02:03 Waylon taht is.. all i need is an indication that a 856u exists via a ahref with an image, that takes one to a download page.
02:03 rangi yep you can merge tags, i do it all the time, and yes forward porting is way harder than backporting
02:03 * rangi goes back to work
02:04 Waylon thanks rangi
02:05 Waylon hmmm..... is the showing "yes, a 856u exists for this record" in search results, a xslt thing?
02:06 rangi you shouldnt need to change anything
02:06 rangi just turn on xslt
02:06 rangi https://library.plantandfood.c[…]levance&do=Search
02:07 rangi no changes there, and its showing 856u (thats 3.6.x btw)
02:09 Waylon right... template thing then, mandumah just wants the PDF icon, and it linked to a download page, no link showing.
02:09 Waylon yeah.. i think i can work it out.
02:10 Waylon any feature naming convention?
02:11 mtompset I know that is 3.6.x
02:11 mtompset I'm pretty sure it is the same in 3.8.x :)
02:13 * Waylon nods. "By looks of things, that feature may be unuseful for committing back to 3.10... hmm.
02:14 Waylon but, i think its the first mod i need to ensure works, and it should be easy to do.
02:15 Waylon mdmah_pdfdlable i think.
02:16 Waylon Mdmah_PDFdlable
02:22 mtompset mixed case is a pain to type. Just my opinion. :)
02:28 mtj Amen_Brother!
02:29 mtj nocase-hyphens i prefer, do
02:31 mtj md-pdf1, md-pdf2, md-pdf3,  thats my method for local branch naming
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03:30 Waylon CHI-Driver-Memcached-0.14.tar.gz install fail.
03:30 Waylon t/CHIDriverTests-Fast.t .......... Dubious, test returned 9 (wstat 2304, 0x900)
03:30 Waylon No subtests run
03:30 Waylon t/CHIDriverTests-libmemcached.t .. Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at /usr/lib/perl5/Class/MOP/ line 785.
03:30 Waylon crap
03:31 Waylon anyone know why this is?
03:36 Waylon ahh
03:36 Waylon must install Class::MOP::Class
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03:45 mmm123 hello
03:45 wahanui bonjour, mmm123
03:46 mmm123 am having a problem with "create label batch"
03:46 mmm123 under Manage Staged MARC records
03:47 mmm123 it gives error: Error attempting to create label batch. Please ask your system administrator to check the log for more details.
03:47 mmm123 i did check the log
03:47 mmm123 it seems to be related to foreign key constraints
03:47 mmm123 with the branch_code
03:48 mmm123 can someone help me, please?
03:58 mtj mmm123, did you ask you system administrator to check the log for more details ?
03:59 mmm123 i did look in the log
03:59 mmm123 and here is what i found
03:59 mmm123 DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Cannot add or update a child row: a foreign key constraint fails (`koha`.`creator_batches`, CONSTRAINT `creator_batches_ibfk_2` FOREIGN KEY (`branch_code`) REFERENCES `branches` (`branchcode`) ON DELETE CASCADE) at /home/koha/kohaclone/C4/Creators/ line 70, <DATA> line 522., referer: http://catalog
04:00 mtj are us logged in as the kohaadmin user?
04:01 mmm123 yes
04:01 mtj and , i guess you are running a git install too...
04:01 mtj yep, try a diff. user
04:02 mtj ie: make a new user, give it perms, log in with the new user...
04:02 mmm123 it was tried under a different user when one of the librarians worked on it
04:03 mtj try setting  the user to a sane branch?
04:04 mtj does it do it on your prod/stable system?
04:04 mmm123 i am sorry, I am very new to Koha. Could you please explain the sane branch part?
04:04 mmm123 yes, it does it on both prod and dev
04:04 mtj sane == existing
04:05 mtj ie: do you have you current user set to a non-exisient branch?
04:05 mtj (that might cause problems)
04:05 mtj hmm, what koha version?
04:05 mmm123 let me see if i can verify that.
04:05 mmm123 3.09
04:06 mmm123
04:07 mtj yow, i think thats an unstable dev version?
04:07 mmm123 hmmmm. I think it worked once I logged in with my own account in the prod
04:08 mmm123 can you direct me to the page where I can check the branch setting for another user?
04:10 mtj in the staff-ui, click on patrons… up the top-left
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04:10 mtj type in the users name, click on the user...
04:12 mtj library(branchname) is above username , password on the right :)
04:13 mtj heya cait ;)
04:13 cait hi mtj :)
04:14 mmm123 I am comparing mine to the other person's who had the issue
04:14 mmm123 at first glance
04:14 mmm123 they look the same.
04:21 mtj ok…. try a new staged-import?
04:21 mtj same thing?
04:22 mmm123 do you think the Expiration date on the patron could have an effect? I have noticed that hers was set at 8/31/2012
04:22 mmm123 while mine was set for 2013
04:24 mmm123 I'm sorry, but could you also assist me with the staged-import? :/
04:24 mtj no, i dont think
04:25 mtj hmm, why dont you have a go 1st :)
04:27 mmm123 I guess I'll have to let one of the librarians do that and I will check back if that doesn't produce any positive results. Thank you so much for your help.. :)
04:27 mtj you dont need to ask them, just do it yourself - its easy :)
04:27 mtj and, no problem... :)
04:28 mmm123 :s mini-me????
04:28 mtj yessss, youuu
04:28 mtj :p
04:28 mmm123 ummmmmm....scary? I will try.
04:28 mtj find a teeny-weeny test.mrc record, and import it
04:30 mtj i dont use the label-creator stuff at all, so im not much help there, sorry :/
04:30 mmm123 I think you were actually really helpful! Appreciate you.
04:32 Waylon okay, done for day.
04:32 Waylon koha master installed, on both servers. Loving TerminatorX
04:33 mtj mmm123 , hmm, i get the same error too :/
04:33 Waylon was even able to use links to install koha, and because i was using terminatorX, both servers installed things at same time.
04:34 mtj Database returned the following error on attempted INSERT: Cannot add or update a child row: a foreign key constraint fails (`koha`.`creator_batches`, CONSTRAINT `creator_batches_ibfk_3` FOREIGN KEY (`item_number`) REFERENCES `items` (`itemnumber`) ON DELETE CASCADE) at /home/mason/git/head/C4/Creators/ line 72., referer:[…]
04:34 mtj create_labelbatch_from_importbatch() : Error attempting to add item #38 of import batch #1 to label batch. at /home/mason/git/head/tools/ line 202., referer:[…]
04:36 mmm123 hmmmmmmm. That is very interesting!
04:38 mtj yeah … there's no bug listed for it in bugzilla , too
04:39 mmm123 I noticed that b/c I was searching frantically early today
04:39 mtj might be worth taking a screenshot at logging it, with the error-msgs
04:40 mtj aah, my error is diff. to yours too
04:40 mtj my error is bitching about 'item_number'
04:41 mmm123 I noticed that our errors looked diff as well. Mine complains about branch_code
04:41 mtj i may have deleted some items , previously… (its my  dev/test system)
04:41 mtj its basically always broken :p
04:41 mmm123 hahaha
04:42 mtj perhaps send an email to the koha mailing-list? see if some other folks have bumped into it?
04:43 mmm123 I saved some of this info and I will try to email them tonight. See if anybody has any suggestions.
04:43 mmm123 really appreciate taking the time to help me look at this! :D
04:44 mtj and, that 3.09 koha is an unstable/dev version too, so focus on testing on a stable 3.8.x version
04:44 mtj no probs :)
04:47 * mtompset leaves to deal with his prescription meds. "Woo hoo! Bulging ear drum."
05:21 Waylon ooo, mtj how mature is Solr in master?
05:21 Waylon and is it available also in 3.10?
05:24 cait it's experimental
05:24 Waylon i.e not ready for production system as yet?
05:24 cait i haven't tried it
05:24 cait I am not sure how much it covers
05:24 * Waylon nods.
05:25 Waylon solr?
05:25 wahanui solr is fast
05:25 cait but everyhing in master now will also be available in 3.10
05:25 Waylon right.
05:25 cait there are pages on the wiki about it
05:25 cait I think you have to install lots of more dependencies first to get it to run
05:26 Waylon wahanui, Solr is fast, really fast, and koha wiki has a page about it, found at[…]ene_Documentation
05:26 wahanui ...but solr is fast...
05:26 Waylon wahanui, forget about solr
05:26 wahanui Waylon, I didn't have anything matching about solr
05:27 Waylon wahanui, forget  solr
05:27 wahanui Waylon: I forgot solr
05:27 Waylon wahanui, Solr is fast, really fast, and koha wiki has a page about it, found at[…]ene_Documentation
05:27 wahanui OK, Waylon.
05:27 Waylon solr?
05:27 wahanui solr is fast, really fast, and koha wiki has a page about it, found at[…]ene_Documentation
05:27 Waylon wahanui, forget  solr
05:27 wahanui Waylon: I forgot solr
05:27 Waylon wahanui, Solr is fast, really fast, faster than me! And koha wiki has a page about it, found at[…]ene_Documentation
05:27 wahanui OK, Waylon.
05:27 Waylon solr?
05:27 wahanui solr is fast, really fast, faster than me! And koha wiki has a page about it, found at[…]ene_Documentation
05:27 Waylon haha
05:29 wajasu haha?
05:29 wahanui i think haha is there already a branch for 3.6?
05:30 Waylon eeep! 502 Bad Gateway
05:34 * Waylon inserted some comedy into wahanui
05:37 cait germs?
05:37 wahanui Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world.
05:37 cait ok, have to go :)
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06:22 Waylon comedy?
06:22 Waylon humor?
06:22 Waylon funny?
06:22 Waylon joke?
06:24 Waylon wahanui, comedy indeed. Ask me about [solr] and [germs].
06:24 wahanui Waylon: excuse me?
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06:24 Waylon wahanui, comedy is funny indeed. Ask me about [solr] and [germs].
06:24 wahanui OK, Waylon.
06:24 Waylon comedy?
06:24 wahanui it has been said that comedy is funny indeed. Ask me about [solr] and [germs].
06:29 alex_a1 bonjout koha!
06:29 alex_a1 s/t/r/
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06:49 reiveune hello
06:49 wahanui hola, reiveune
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07:18 gaetan_B hello :)
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07:49 mveron Hi #koha from BIS Congress in Konstanz
07:51 drojf good day #koha
07:51 drojf hi mveron. first day?
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08:03 drojf hi eythian
08:09 eythian hi there
08:09 wahanui privet, eythian
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08:46 paul_p hello #koha
08:46 * paul_p just spent more than one hour on bug 8597
08:46 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8597 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fcapovilla, Failed QA , New theme for the OPAC with a mobile view
08:52 mveron drojf: Late answer :-) Very interesting, many people interested in Koha...
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08:56 Joubu hello all
09:00 drojf mveron: sounds cool! :)
09:00 drojf mveron: has mbalmer had his talk already?
09:29 mveron drojf: mbalmer's talk will be tomorrow 10:30   No live stream I guess, but you can always book him to give a talk in Berlin  :-)
09:59 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8209 follow-up DBRev number <[…]9b9d65d67ec9b314d> / Bug 8209: "Did you mean?" from authorities <[…]f3c39297808b117d6> / Bug 8431 follow-up : |html_line_break in 2 tempates <[…]ce6898655e8e01e85
10:09 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: bug 8649: quiet a variable use warning <[…]fc79f962839319e44> / bug 8649: create a temp directory for Zebra for C4::Search tests <[…]e266e9716704c29f8> / bug 8649: make sure we can exit if a test fails <[…]=koha.git;a=commi
10:11 jenkins_koha Starting build #824 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 10 days ago)
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11:17 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #824: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 5 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/824/
11:17 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8644 [staff client] jQueryUI CSS file should not contain customizations
11:17 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8644 [OPAC] jQueryUI CSS file should not contain customizations
11:17 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 8431 - Increase the borrower attribute field size from 64 characters to 255
11:17 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 8431 - Followup - Switch from text input to textarea
11:17 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8644 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , jQueryUI CSS file should not contain customizations
11:17 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: bug 8431 follow-up DBRev number
11:17 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 8431 follow-up : |html_line_break in 2 tempates
11:17 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8209: "Did you mean?" from authorities
11:17 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8431 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Increase the borrower attribute field size from 64 characters to 255
11:17 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 8209 follow-up DBRev number
11:17 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8649: Add unit test for C4::Search
11:17 jenkins_koha * gmc: bug 8649: make sure C4::Context is fully mocked-up before tests
11:17 jenkins_koha * gmc: bug 8649: make sure we can exit if a test fails
11:17 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8209 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , "Did you mean?" suggestions based on authorities
11:17 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8649 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , C4::Search needs a unit test
11:17 jenkins_koha * gmc: bug 8649: create a temp directory for Zebra for C4::Search tests
11:17 jenkins_koha * gmc: bug 8649: quiet a variable use warning
11:18 * jcamins_away scratches his head.
11:18 jcamins_away I don't understand why that failed.
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11:21 jcamins If I am RM for 3.12, I think I will have to get rangi to walk me through how jenkins works using very small words.
11:22 jcamins Joubu: rebasing 8726 now.
11:32 Joubu jcamins: ok thanks
11:33 jcamins Joubu: rebased. :)
11:33 jcamins That was actually much harder than expected.
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11:44 jcamins Joubu: I have a patch for the failing test on bug 8209.
11:44 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8209 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , "Did you mean?" suggestions based on authorities
11:44 jcamins :)
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11:48 * jcamins waves to paul_p
11:48 jcamins paul_p: there's a fix for the failing test on bug 8209.
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11:55 samuel hi everybody
12:03 * paul_p back from lunch
12:03 paul_p jcamins = follow-up for bug 8209 pushed.
12:03 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8209 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , "Did you mean?" suggestions based on authorities
12:04 jcamins paul_p++
12:05 magnuse paul_p++
12:05 paul_p The other jenking  failure is to be solved by rangi on jenkins itself I think (>>> t_db_dependent_check_sysprefs_t.Syspref DidYouMeanFromAuthorities exists in the database (91) ). The last one (>>> t_db_dependent_Barcodes_t.Number of runned tests does not match plan. (45) ) being an old one
12:05 jcamins Ooh, it's beautiful out today. :)
12:05 * paul_p playing with bug 7417
12:05 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7417 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Include alternate forms from authorities in bibliographic searches
12:05 jcamins paul_p: my plan is to support solr with the suggestion plugins, BTW.
12:05 * paul_p hesitates between being happy for the work made on authorities by jcamins or complaining because that's a *lot* of stuff to test ;-) ;-)
12:06 paul_p (well, I'm french, so I suppose I'm supposed to choose the complain patch ;-) )
12:06 paul_p s/patch/path/
12:06 magnuse heh
12:11 jenkins_koha Starting build #825 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 10 days ago)
12:13 jcamins paul_p: the work on bug 8304 is quite good, too.
12:13 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8304 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Failed QA , composed authorities Rameau management
12:13 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_8209' <[…]291ede3fa08e70808> / Bug 8209 follow-up: fix failing test in AuthorityFile suggestion plugin <[…]5581fcfbe5873cb42>
12:14 jcamins And you can't blame me for the need to test that. ;)
12:15 * jcamins heads into the city.
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12:18 oleonard Hi #koha
12:27 * oleonard bangs some pots and pans to wake everyone up
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12:29 magnuse kia ora oleonard!
12:29 * drojf peers in
12:29 drojf whats that noise?
12:29 oleonard Oh sorry drojf did I wake you up? I was just putting away some dishes.
12:30 drojf oh no do go on, i need something to get me out of the post-lunch-coma
12:30 * magnuse too
12:31 oleonard It's morning for me, but I'm already wondering what's going to get me through my post-lunch coma
12:32 tcohen morning #koha
12:38 slef Coffee?
12:38 wahanui i guess Coffee is mostly not Brooke's medicine
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12:44 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
12:46 mtompset Question for anyone around. Let's say I install packages in a production environment, and then I find a bug. So I use my dev environment to generate a patch. And the patch gets signed off at bugzilla, can I apply the patch to my production system? Or is there some other method recommended?
12:47 slef You can apply it, but you'll have to mung filenames
12:47 magnuse mtompset: you could build your own packages, that include the patch
12:47 mtompset mung filenames? why?
12:47 magnuse[…]es_-_The_Easy_Way
12:47 slef Recommended way is probably to use debian build - git - snapshot
12:49 magnuse the wiki page is not completely up to date, but it should give you an idea of the steps involved
12:49 slef Need to mung because installed layout is different to git
12:49 mtompset Okay, so what happens if I apply the patch without mung'ing the filenames?
12:49 mtompset for example... I happen to know I want bug 8175's patch applied to a 3.8.4 package install.
12:49 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8175 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Signed Off , items.materials check logs error or displays incorrectly in
12:50 mtompset I know the file name. I know the change.
12:50 slef It won't apply
12:50 mtompset -- it will with a minor tweak. ;)
12:50 samuel question for anyone too: I've made successfully an import but some fields can't be displayed, although i choose "yes" for mandatory
12:50 slef You'll get .rej files
12:51 slef Yeah, minor tweak to mung filenames:-)
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12:51 mtompset Actually, I didn't mung any filenames.
12:51 slef Samuel: what fields? Doesn't sound completely successful:-)
12:51 mtompset I deleted like 3-4 lines.
12:52 mtompset then "patch -p0 ~/bug_8175.patch"
12:52 mtompset got a .orig out of it.
12:52 slef mtompset, is it a single-file patch?
12:52 mtompset Yes.
12:53 slef Shh you can get away with it then
12:53 samuel slef: yes (the first method we've followed was very very bad). To answer, it is 930 &955 field
12:53 mtompset I can see what you are saying about multiple file patches and mung'ing file names now.
12:53 slef UNI MARC?
12:54 slef Samuel: or Marc 21?
12:54 samuel unimarc
12:54 wahanui i guess unimarc is[…]ted-documentation
12:55 slef I don't know much then, sorry. Not in a place to look it up right now (mobile at lunch)
12:56 mtompset And I'm not familiar with UNIMARC, sorry.
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12:59 samuel yep but is it possible to have a problem like that? I've all the fields, except 930 and 955....sounds strange but i'll discuss with my colleagues
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13:04 * mtompset groans, "Oh no! Not another broken logic mess."
13:05 mtompset Wait... maybe not.
13:06 mtompset Do Auto Values start at 1?
13:06 mtompset Can they start at 0?
13:06 samuel 1
13:07 mtompset Oh wait... wrong column... shoot it's a varchar!
13:08 mtompset Technically someone could create a category code 0.
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13:09 samuel mtompset:....i'm a bit lost
13:09 mtompset It's not related to your problem.
13:10 samuel ok
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13:15 wajasu awesome 8209 is on master
13:17 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #825: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 5 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/825/
13:17 jenkins_koha jcamins: Bug 8209 follow-up: fix failing test in AuthorityFile suggestion plugin
13:17 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8209 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , "Did you mean?" suggestions based on authorities
13:20 libsysguy oleonard did you decide it was ok to push all of jquery ui?
13:20 libsysguy i mean…not you push it
13:20 libsysguy but you know
13:20 magnuse w00t! http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]aster/825/cigame/
13:20 magnuse jenkins has a game?
13:21 oleonard libsysguy: Now that Bug 8644 is pushed, I don't mind if the next person who needs a new jqueryUI widget adds *most* of the whole library
13:21 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8644 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , jQueryUI CSS file should not contain customizations
13:21 oleonard ...because enough of us need what's left.
13:21 jcamins_away paul_p: I'll have a follow-up for my follow-up shortly. I just remembered why the test was breaking.
13:21 oleonard Like I said before, I don't think we need all the effects
13:21 jcamins_away I originally wrote 8209 after 7417.
13:22 libsysguy awww
13:22 libsysguy oleonard why don't we need the exploding bounce effect lol
13:22 jcamins lol
13:23 magnuse don't underestimate the power of eyecandy... ;-)
13:24 libsysguy i don't…I've seen it work magic
13:24 * magnuse thinks the new staff interface is great in that respect
13:25 jcamins paul_p: disregard that last. The fix still works. :)
13:25 libsysguy indeed
13:25 jcamins Could someone please confirm for me that the only tests that failed last build were the syspref one and the barcode one?
13:25 * jcamins is behind a firewall that blocks jenkins.
13:25 * libsysguy wishes there was a standard jquery-ui theme for all the widgets
13:26 * libsysguy looks at oleonard :p
13:26 oleonard libsysguy: I have adapted the theme for each widget as it is added to Koha.
13:26 magnuse jcamins: you can't see this? http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]r/825/testReport/
13:26 jcamins magnuse: nope.
13:27 oleonard What kind of weird firewall is that jcamins?
13:27 pastebot "magnuse" at pasted "All Failed Tests" (5 lines) at
13:27 jcamins It's the weirdest firewall I have ever encountered.
13:27 magnuse block port 80 - better safe than sorry!
13:27 jcamins Yay!
13:27 jcamins lol
13:27 jcamins magnuse: I can get to
13:28 mtompset ah, perhaps jenkins took over from a previous porn ip address?
13:28 magnuse heh
13:28 * mtompset is just throwing out wild ideas.
13:28 magnuse jcamins: did that paste answer your question?
13:29 mtompset speaking of yui...
13:29 mtompset [Thu Sep 13 18:47:49 2012] [error] [client] File does not exist: /usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs/int​ranet-tmpl/prog/en/lib/yui/plugins, referer: https://.../cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/add​;amp;op=
13:29 jcamins magnuse: it did, yes.
13:29 magnuse cool
13:29 jcamins mtompset: hm, sounds like there was a hardcoded reference to the old YUI directory.
13:29 mtompset Did I miss a step in a packages install?
13:30 mtompset Okay... that may be a possibility.
13:30 jcamins Oh, what version?
13:31 oleonard I don't get the error in master
13:31 jcamins In that case, it wasn't my fault.
13:31 oleonard git blame --divert
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13:33 magnuse kia ora trea!
13:33 trea kia ora magnuse!
13:34 trea how's Bodø today?
13:34 mtompset This is the 3.8.4 packages.
13:36 magnuse @wunder boo
13:36 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 11.0°C (3:20 PM CEST on September 13, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.24 in 990 hPa (Steady).
13:37 magnuse trea: definitely fall here - lots of colours
13:37 trea :D
13:37 magnuse but not as much rain as they said it would be - yay!
13:38 mtompset Ah... and use bubbling and loading scripts from the plugins directory...
13:39 mtompset starting up my VM to check 3.8.x
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13:42 oleonard wizzyrea around?
13:43 trea doubt it oleonard. She's at a staff retreat today.
13:43 oleonard Okay, thanks trea
13:44 oleonard Anyone know if owing too much in fines blocks a patron from SIP-authenticated operations like being debarred does?
13:45 oleonard Since we don't charge fines I haven't run into the issue in production
13:49 mtompset No, sorry.
13:49 jcamins oleonard: I believe it does, but I'm not sure.
13:50 wajasu just pulled a fresh master.  in staff client i see  "Seggestions pending approval: 1" at bottom of mainpage.  I clicked it.  I don't see anything in the list and the tab has Pending(0)
13:51 jcamins wajasu: there's a bug (and patch) for that. It's not showing you suggestions from all libraries by default.
13:51 oleonard Bug 8274
13:51 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8274 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , count of suggestions on main page wrong
13:52 oleonard No patch
13:52 jcamins Oh.
13:52 jcamins Well, there's a bug.
13:55 mtompset Yep... The current 3.8.4 koha-common is missing the plugins directory. 3.8.x has it.
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13:58 magnuse wajasu: does it say "Seggestions" or was that your typo?
13:58 wajasu just wanted to be sure one existed.  my typo
13:58 jcamins paul_p: it may comfort you to think you're in the home stretch, at least as concerns authority patches from me. Only 6 more. :)
14:00 mtompset Okay, I'm confused.
14:00 mtompset The tarball has it, but the packages is missing it?!
14:01 jcamins mtompset: it can happen.
14:04 magnuse jcamins++
14:05 mtompset So, nothing break on a forward basis for just update, upgrading packages if I copy the missing directory?
14:06 jcamins I wouldn't think so, but I've never tried.
14:06 mtompset No time like the present to try.
14:10 eythian oleonard: also bug 7300
14:10 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7300 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, ASSIGNED , display suggestions from librarian library only by default
14:10 eythian and wajasu
14:12 eythian wajasu: moped is the only form of transport that is a past participle.
14:12 eythian err
14:12 eythian wahanui: moped is the only form of transport that is a past participle.
14:12 wahanui i already had it that way, eythian.
14:12 eythian oh
14:12 jcamins excuse?
14:12 wahanui jcamins: We already sent around a notice about that.
14:32 mtompset moped?
14:32 wahanui moped is the only form of transport that is a past participle.
14:33 mtompset Yes, but the syllable breaks are different.
14:34 * wajasu running benchmark_staff   for fun
14:34 oleonard
14:35 mtompset Fine. fine. I got it wrong. Syllabic weighting.
14:36 oleonard No mtompset, that was for you to use for such an occasion.
14:36 * tcohen managed to get a shibboleth IdP running against UNC's LDAP, now, going to read CAS code to mimic it for shibboleth
14:38 wajasu nice
14:38 mtompset It was humorous. :)
14:40 mtompset Question: We have our site hosted at IP Address X, we are moving to IP Address Y. Is there a way to make the staff and OPAC give a maintenance warning nicely?
14:41 mtompset The name isn't changing, just the IP.
14:41 jcamins mtompset: you can turn on OPACMaintenance, but I don't think that'll do what you want.
14:41 mtompset That will capture the OPAC side.
14:41 mtompset What about the staff side?
14:41 mtompset fake the apache out to make it think it is OPAC?\
14:42 jcamins No, it's generally believed that staff can be told not to use the staff client.
14:42 oleonard Heh.
14:43 jcamins And you probably can't have your server at the two IPs simultaneously anyway.
14:44 mtompset you can if they are different machines.
14:44 oleonard And I would generally believe that staff could tell the difference between "logging in to email" and "logging in to Mozilla Foxfire," but I'm generally wrong.
14:44 mtompset The problem is DNS propagation time updating.
14:44 jcamins mtompset: ah, they are actually different machines?
14:44 mtompset Yes.
14:45 jcamins In that case, take down Koha on the old one and replace it with a static page that says "If you see this, try again in 6 hours."
14:45 mtompset I don't want staff to accidentally add/delete anything that hasn't been transferred.
14:45 jcamins So, take it down on the old machine.
14:45 mtompset hack apache. ;)
14:45 mtompset back to default and give dummy page.
14:46 jcamins I would've said that was just disabling the virtual host, but that's just me.
14:46 jcamins Sure
14:46 jcamins That's a lot easier than trying to make Koha handle DNS remapping.
14:46 mtompset Which is why the other hack was get the staff client to show the OPAC page with the syspref set.
14:47 gaetan_B about bug 8473 :
14:47 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8473 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, Different favicon in the staff client only shows in the english templates
14:48 oleonard Still not working for you gaetan_B?
14:48 gaetan_B i did a fresh install 2 days ago, for demonstration puporses
14:48 mtompset Actually, that may be related to the favicon patch I put out there.
14:48 gaetan_B and i still don't see it oleonard, the strangest thing is that i also don't see it in the english templates !
14:49 gaetan_B ahah so we have a culprit :p
14:49 oleonard gaetan_B: When you view source and follow the link in the source to the .ico file do you see the one you expect?
14:49 mtompset bug 8737
14:49 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8737 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Signed Off , Incorrect icon at login in staff client
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14:50 mtompset Hey, aren't you at a staff retreat today?
14:50 * magnuse waves at wizzyrea
14:50 mtompset Good to see you, wizzyrea.
14:50 * wizzyrea waves
14:50 wizzyrea I am >.> how would you know that:P
14:50 gaetan_B oleonard: the one i see in the source is the one i see on the screen (the opac one)
14:50 mtompset read the IRC logs. oleonard was looking for you.
14:50 mtompset Can't remember who replied.
14:50 wizzyrea oh
14:51 oleonard gaetan_B: /intranet-tmpl/prog/en/includes/favicon.ico ?
14:51 gaetan_B yep
14:51 mtompset Is it a permissions problem?
14:51 oleonard gaetan_B: That link shows you the OPAC icon?
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14:51 gaetan_B oleonard: at that place on my hard drive for this install i have the opac icon
14:52 eythian mtompset: sudo koha-disable instancename
14:52 eythian that'll put a warning on both the staff and opac
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14:53 mtompset the old install is a tarball. ;)
14:53 eythian oh right
14:53 eythian then blah blah stuff with apache :)
14:55 jcamins gaetan_B: sounds like the wrong facion is in your staff templates.
14:55 jcamins gaetan_B: is it possible you're testing something that was ported off of BibLibre master which accidentally included the wrong favicon?
14:56 jcamins s/facion/favicon/
14:56 gaetan_B this is an install i did monday afternoon my history shows i did "git clone git://"
14:56 gaetan_B so it shouldn't be this way. Weird.
14:56 SJeffery Was the way I signed off on 2060 the correct way? (first signoff)
14:58 magnuse SJeffery: you really should sign off on the code with git, i think
14:58 jcamins magnuse: I set up a server with 2060 on it for him to test with.
14:58 oleonard It has been said before that "verbal" signoffs would be accepted
14:59 magnuse ah, ok, never mind me then :-)
14:59 * oleonard thinks rangi said it but I'm not positive
14:59 SJeffery magnuse: Do you really want us crazy librarians playing in git?
15:00 magnuse SJeffery: sure! :-)
15:00 * magnuse is a crazy librarian too...
15:02 SJeffery Next project: that evil linking script
15:02 jcamins SJeffery: just be glad you weren't around during 3.4... back when it just deleted all your headings.
15:03 Joubu bye ++
15:03 magnuse SJeffery++ for testing stuff!
15:04 SJeffery I hate to ask, but who submitted and signed off on that one?
15:04 jcamins SJeffery: that was pre-QA, I think.
15:07 reiveune bye
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15:10 SJeffery jcamins: let me know when you want me to test again. I will try not to find five new, unrelated bugs next time :)
15:10 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 3462: Links in authorities should be hyperlinks <[…]e181b8dbd3b8b8ae6> / Bug 7417: Include see from references in bibliographic searches <[…]3a8cf8e784ea6e90b>
15:11 jcamins SJeffery: thanks!
15:11 mtompset Oh cool... GBSD has technically begun somewhere in the world.
15:11 jenkins_koha Starting build #826 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 10 days ago)
15:12 jcamins mtompset: kiribati, I think.
15:12 mtompset Yes, 5 hours or so ago.
15:16 gaetan_B am i the only one seeing, by default, the same favicon in opac and intranet ?
15:17 gaetan_B (that could mean the problem comes from something inside biblibre definitely, but i don't see what...)
15:17 oleonard Each of us seems to have his own favicon bug. Mine is that I see the OPAC one when I'm editing system preferences. Sometimes.
15:17 jcamins gaetan_B: I have different favicons between the two.
15:17 gaetan_B oleonard: interesting =-O
15:18 mtompset There are IntranetFavicon and OpacFavicon sysprefs.
15:19 mtompset You see the OPAC one when editing system preferences sometimes?!
15:20 oleonard Sometimes. But not today.
15:20 mtompset Are you sure that isn't related to bug 8737 somehow?
15:20 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8737 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Signed Off , Incorrect icon at login in staff client
15:21 mtompset Because if IntranetFavicon doesn't get set, then you get those weird behaviours.
15:21 jcamins paul_p: oh, yes, I was right, there will be another follow-up coming shortly.
15:21 gaetan_B mtompset: what's really strange, is that i see the same favicon in both places in the sources, that i downloaded this monday
15:21 oleonard mtompset: I don't have IntranetFavicon set and I have no problems with the favicon on the login screen
15:22 mtompset some of the templates fallback to the OpacFavicon.
15:22 mtompset I noticed that while hunting for this bug.
15:23 mtompset But give the hour and my poor memory, I don't stand by that 100% :)
15:24 gaetan_B mtompset: i second that, i had noticed this with the french template, when is still had a different favicon in the english one
15:24 gaetan_B anyway, i guess it's a minor problem ;)
15:24 mtompset Well, it makes so sense to check the OpacFavicon variable in an Intranet template, in my opinion.
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15:27 mtompset no sense... It's late... I must retire.
15:27 gaetan_B true, the favicon not being different by default in itseld is not a big problem, but if what looms behind is templates that don't get translated properly, then....
15:27 mtompset Also, if the problem is the favicon.
15:28 mtompset Consider the IF/ELSE statements in the templates.
15:28 mtompset They require %themelang% to be set.
15:28 mtompset Perhaps there is some code, some where that isn't setting it.
15:29 mtompset That would give you no icon, unless you pasted a favicon into that wrong location.
15:30 mtompset perhaps there is a limit on how many environment variables can be set, and that just happens to be the one not set?
15:30 mtompset Just throwing out wild ideas. :)
15:31 * mtompset waves bye.
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15:38 jcamins paul_p: there's another follow-up patch on bug 8209.
15:38 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8209 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , "Did you mean?" suggestions based on authorities
15:38 jcamins No there isn't.
15:38 jcamins git-bz failed.
15:39 jcamins Now there is.
15:42 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 3461 follow-up DBRev number <[…]f97349360243aee01>
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15:59 jcamins paul_p: as far as I can tell, 2060 works with UNIMARC. But I wrote my own UNIMARC records, which might not actually have been valid. If you could send me a record that you're using, I will test with that, too. :)
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16:17 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #826: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/826/
16:17 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 7417: Include see from references in bibliographic searches
16:17 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 3462: Links in authorities should be hyperlinks
16:17 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7417 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Include alternate forms from authorities in bibliographic searches
16:17 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3462 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Link see alsos in authorities
16:18 jenkins_koha Starting build #827 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 11 days ago)
16:20 gaetan_B bye !
16:22 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7968 follow-up typo fixes <[…]e4c59cb1025d3fc40> / Bug 7986 follow-up DBRev numbers <[…]6927b45c140443b36> / Bug 7986: Export issues for patron <[…]ab387d9302b572861> /
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16:42 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8339 - div id="login" should be id="login_controls" in <[…]2401b91838ac51239> / Bug 7583 follow-up: Prevent users to cancel receipt if they can't <[…]fe41b8fe32fc3e579> / Bug 7583: Cancel a receipt <
16:43 oleonard paul_p is a patch-pushing machine today
16:43 jcamins Sure is!
16:43 paul_p oleonard agreed ;-)
16:43 paul_p This morning, the passed QA pile was ... 19. a few minuts ago it was ... 19 !!! not kidding. some are "passed QA machines" too ;-)
16:44 paul_p fortunately, the one i'm playing with atm are easy !
16:46 oleonard "Export today's checked in barcodes" should show me barcodes for items which were checked in today?
16:47 * oleonard gets a list of barcodes currently checked out (and not today)
16:47 jcamins paul_p: did you run the database update for bug 2060?
16:47 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2060 enhancement, P3, ---, jcamins, Failed QA , Ability to import Authorities from Staff Client
16:47 paul_p jcamins = yes I did (will check again later, but i'm pretty sure)
16:48 jcamins Okay. It's in installer/data/mysql/atomic​update/
16:48 paul_p jcamins = and the proof is that the import appears correctly, so the new table has been field.
16:48 paul_p jcamins = yep, i've copied that to, and run with that, as usual (to avoid pushing an update I haven't tested exactly like I push it)
16:48 jcamins Okay.
16:49 jcamins Could you please post the authority you are testing with?
16:49 paul_p jcamins = I choose the other path once, and, murphy's law... made a mistake :
16:49 paul_p jcamins yep
16:49 jcamins Thanks.
16:49 jcamins I made up my own authorities, and I'm not a UNIMARC cataloger.
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16:50 * magnuse waves to cait
16:50 cait hi magnuse
16:50 cait hm no drojf?
16:50 ago43 Hi jcamins, and All: I've got a few questions about[…]_searches_to_OPAC .
16:50 ago43 1. In the past,, bib1.att, and record.abs needed to be edited with the appropriate entries in order for additional custom-indexing to work.  By using this jquery, do I only need to edit  Or do these other files need editing?
16:50 oleonard he was here earlier cait
16:51 paul_p jcamins done
16:51 paul_p jcamins = but it seems my authority (exported from Koha), is wrong : 00138nx  a2200073   4500
16:51 paul_p (Directory offset 72: Bad value for data length and/or length starting (7\x1E18786\x1E  \x1Fa))
16:51 paul_p (Directory offset 24: Data out of bounds 61072 >= 138)
16:51 cait hi paul_p
16:51 cait hi oleonard - and thx
16:51 cait maybe I will catch him later
16:51 cait I just got home from the conf
16:51 cait now packing for berlin
16:51 jcamins ago43: you have to change the indexing config if you are changing indexing.
16:52 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7583 follow-up DBRev number <[…]da9088aba60d848cb>
16:52 ago43 k.  I'm not sure what you mean by indexing config?
16:53 jcamins ago43:, bib1.att, and record.abs.
16:54 jcamins Or the DOM equivalents, of course.
16:54 jcamins All that jQuery does is add an index to the interface. It doesn't make any changes to how the indexer works.
16:54 jcamins paul_p: you're right. This authority does not like importing. Mine must have been wrong. :(
16:55 * jcamins will fix it. Fear not.
16:55 jcamins :)
16:56 ago43 thanks, jcamins.  one other question: What are the differences between  "<option value='adate'>Auction date  and <option value='Host-item,wrdl'> . I'm looking at the ",wrdl" here.
16:56 jcamins The second is explicitly wordlist,the second is not.
16:57 ago43 thanks very much, jcamins!
16:57 jcamins *the first is not
16:57 * jcamins should know better than to read English right-to-left.
17:00 jcamins paul_p: according to my logs, that authority doesn't have a heading, or any contents. :(
17:01 paul_p jcamins = see below = this auth has been exported from Koha, and it is correct. But it seems that the export is wrong.
17:01 paul_p jcamins = try marcdump auth.utf8 (or yaz-marcdump)
17:02 paul_p jcamins = if you hexedit or cat the authority, you'll see that the auth is $aAberg$bSally Jean
17:03 jcamins Hm. Guess the exporting authorities from Koha doesn't work right.
17:03 jcamins I thought francharb tested it for me.
17:03 jcamins (exporting UNIMARC authorities)
17:03 paul_p OK, time to leave for me, 6 patches still "passed QA" ! QA team, continue to feed me ;-)
17:04 jcamins paul_p: so I guess we need to get a valid authority so you can test whether it works with UNIMARC.
17:04 paul_p jcamins = i'll try tomorrow again with an autority retrieved from BNF or soemthing like that. switch back to "passed QA" to be sure I won't forget
17:04 jcamins Thanks.
17:04 paul_p this time, bye bye #koha
17:09 * oleonard hopes someone will QA Bug 8428
17:09 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8428 critical, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , can't save contracts
17:12 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8641 - Add information warning about log-in as root user to About->System information <[…]775e1c9ce8f8cd8d3> / Bug 8017 reduce manipulation of GetAllIssues return <[…]00a6cce266c59cba6> / Bug 4118 follow-up DBRev number <
17:24 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #827: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 5 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/827/
17:24 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 3461 follow-up DBRev number
17:24 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7500 [FOLLOW-UP][Star ratings] Use CSS Sprites for faster page loading
17:24 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7500 [FOLLOW-UP][Missing images] Use CSS Sprites for faster page loading
17:24 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7500 [FOLLOW-UP, revised][Social networks] Use CSS Sprites for faster page loading
17:24 jenkins_koha * melia: Bug 7143: Adding Kathryn Tyree to the history and About page.
17:24 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3461 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, NEW , Duplicate overdue email notices caused by message settings not being controled by CircControl in System Prerfrences
17:24 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 7143 tiny follow-up, removing tabs
17:24 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 8761 Dont inadvertantly use slices
17:24 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7500 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use CSS Sprites for faster page loading
17:24 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 7986: Export issues for patron
17:24 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 7986 follow-up DBRev numbers
17:24 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Passed QA , Bug for tracking changes to the about page
17:24 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8761 minor, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Correct compile time warnings in C4::Circulation
17:24 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 7968 follow-up typo fixes
17:24 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7986 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Export issues
17:24 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7968 normal, P5 - low, ---, sofiane.elharsal, Pushed to Master , create meta-packages to simplify installation of koha
17:24 jenkins_koha Starting build #828 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 11 days ago)
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17:28 jcamins Could someone please confirm for me that there haven't been any new failures?
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17:35 jcamins Hm. Test::Perl::Critic is complaining.
17:35 * jcamins had the idea of using lynx and a remote shell.
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17:45 pastebot "magnuse" at pasted "All Failed Tests" (9 lines) at
17:45 magnuse jcamins: that paste was for you ;-)
17:45 magnuse ah, you not only had the idea but followed through on it too, i guess :-)
17:46 jcamins magnuse: yes. :)
17:46 magnuse clever!
17:47 magnuse cli ftw!
17:47 jcamins Remote server FTW!
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18:29 magnuse next gbsd?
18:29 wahanui i heard next gbsd was[…]bug_squashing_day
18:30 oleonard There are a lot of tough nuts to crack on the signoff list
18:30 magnuse ...which is now, if you choose the right timezone :-)
18:30 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #828: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/828/
18:30 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8598 - No patron image or home library on Files & Statistics tabs
18:30 jenkins_koha * mjr: fix bug 7068 - autobarcode not working when duplicating patrons
18:30 jenkins_koha * julian.maurice: Bug 3456: Show internalnotes when receiving serials
18:30 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8598 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , No patron image or home library on Files & Statistics tabs
18:30 jenkins_koha * robin: Bug 8716 - make the routing list reordering function work
18:30 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8677 - table overlapping to the right on holds waiting
18:30 jenkins_koha * julian.maurice: Bug 7583: Cancel a receipt
18:30 jenkins_koha * julian.maurice: Bug 7583 follow-up: Prevent users to cancel receipt if they can't
18:30 jenkins_koha * mtompset: Bug 8339 - div id="login" should be id="login_controls" in
18:30 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 7583 follow-up DBRev number
18:30 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7068 major, P5 - low, ---, mjr, Pushed to Master , autobarcode not working when duplicating patrons
18:30 jenkins_koha * kyle.m.hall: Bug 4118 - Add Collection Code to Statistics Table
18:30 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 4118 follow-up DBRev number
18:30 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3456 minor, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Serials receipt note
18:30 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 8017 reduce manipulation of GetAllIssues return
18:30 jenkins_koha * veron: Bug 8641 - Add information warning about log-in as root user to About->System information
18:30 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8716 normal, P4, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , Reordering of routing list entries doesn't work
18:30 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8677 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , table overlapping to the right on holds waiting
18:30 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7583 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , undo receive
18:30 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8339 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , div id="login" should be id="login_controls" in
18:30 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4118 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Add Collection Code to Statistics Table
18:30 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8017 minor, P4, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Remove unnecessary processing on return of GetAllIssues
18:30 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8641 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Pushed to Master , Add information warning about log-in as root user to About->System information
18:31 magnuse 74 bugs need signoff
18:31 cait and lots of cool features waiting and bug fixes and.. and... and.. :)
18:31 magnuse yeah, just looking at the number of comments on some of them is discouraging...
18:32 oleonard I'm quite willing to have my hand held while a patch author walks me through testing something confusing :)
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18:35 * magnuse opens the floodgates on twitter
18:40 magnuse just give me a hint if it's too much
18:40 * magnuse wanders off
18:48 jcamins_away oleonard: you can sign off on my followup for bug 7417 without any handholding!
18:48 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7417 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Include alternate forms from authorities in bibliographic searches
18:48 jcamins_away Run test with TEST_QA environment variable set to 1. Note that it fails.
18:48 jcamins_away Apply patch, run test again, note it doesn't.
18:49 jcamins_away :)
18:51 oleonard Ask me tomorrow if it's still unsigned. Leaving in 10.
19:30 rangi Morning
19:30 rangi @wunder nzwn
19:30 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0°C (7:00 AM NZST on September 14, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
19:31 * senator envies this --^
19:31 senator well, except for the 7am part. bleh.
19:32 rangi High of 15 today
19:32 jcamins_away @wunder 11375
19:32 huginn jcamins_away: The current temperature in Middle Village, Queens, New York is 25.0°C (3:30 PM EDT on September 13, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.31 in 1026 hPa (Falling).
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19:40 wizzyrea @wunder lawrence, ks
19:40 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 13.3°C (2:37 PM CDT on September 13, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.32 in 1027 hPa (Falling).
19:40 wizzyrea *nod*
19:41 wizzyrea about perfect in NYC
19:41 jcamins_away I'd prefer it a bit cooler, actually.
19:41 jcamins_away Welcome back from  your retreat.
19:44 oleonard joined #koha
19:45 jcamins_away Wow, I guess oleonard really wanted to talk with you.
19:46 wizzyrea i talked to him earlier :)
19:47 jcamins_away He wanted to talk to you again!
19:47 wizzyrea jeez how do people know  I was at a retreat!
19:47 wizzyrea I seriously don't recall telling anybody lol.
19:47 jcamins_away wizzyrea: trea told us when oleonard was looking for you.
19:47 wizzyrea OH
19:47 wizzyrea well that makes sense
19:49 rangi Trea tells us EVERYTHING
19:49 trea EVERYTHING
19:49 wahanui well, EVERYTHING is grilled
19:50 trea good point wahanui
19:50 rangi Hehe
19:52 * jcamins_away is really enjoying wahanui's conversational abilities of late.
19:52 rangi Excuse
19:53 rangi Excuse?
19:53 rangi Hmmm
19:53 jcamins_away excuse my lack of excuses!
19:53 wahanui jcamins_away: backup tape overwritten with copy of system manager's favourite CD
19:53 jcamins_away excuse your lack of excuses
19:53 wahanui jcamins_away: terrorist activities
19:53 rangi Doesn't like capitals
19:53 jcamins_away Excuse?
19:53 jcamins_away It would seem not.
19:53 rangi Excuse
19:53 rangi Yeah
19:54 rangi Strict regexp
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20:08 rangi busy paul
20:09 jcamins_away Yup.
20:10 wizzyrea excuse?
20:10 wahanui wizzyrea: Hard drive sleeping. Let it wake up on it's own...
20:10 wizzyrea *nod*
20:10 rangi ill push some stuff then do some signoffs
20:10 wizzyrea wahanui likes me.
20:10 wahanui wizzyrea: what?
20:10 rangi excuse
20:10 wahanui rangi: Your Flux Capacitor has gone bad.
20:11 wizzyrea wahanui likes me
20:11 wahanui wizzyrea: huh?
20:11 wizzyrea aw, that's not what I taught you!
20:12 rangi didnt your mum ever tell you, you cant force boys to like you!
20:13 cait excuse?
20:13 wahanui cait: suboptimal routing experience
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20:14 wizzyrea oh, I was winning him over with my persuasive charm
20:14 wizzyrea ;)
20:16 datadoctor Hi All! Quick question: When I define authorized values for Koha, they sort by 'Description" (coded as 'lib' ). However I would like to sort by the order I entered the list, or 'id' - Any ideas?
20:18 rangi hehe
20:18 rangi datadoctor: sort where?
20:20 cait datadoctor: what are you trying to do? :)
20:20 datadoctor I have defined a list of menu items for mobile Koha, consisting of a menu title, a menu link, and a menu icon. When I pull the authorized values in PERL, I get them ordered by menu title.
20:20 cait i mean which authorised value and which display?
20:20 datadoctor I guess I could use a number in that field.
20:20 datadoctor The Description field
20:21 datadoctor In the code that is 'lib'
20:22 wizzyrea the first question?
20:22 wahanui "What are you trying to do?"  "What is the goal?" or "What problem are you experiencing?"
20:22 datadoctor I am filling the Authorized Value field with an abbreviation, the Description with the Menu Title, The Description (OPAC) with the Menu link, and the Icon with a path to my menu icon.
20:23 datadoctor The system generates a sequential id for each authorized value.
20:24 datadoctor When I pull the array, I get it sorted alphabetically by "Description", so my menu re-orders alphabetically by title.
20:24 jcamins_away datadoctor: okay, but what are you trying to do?
20:25 datadoctor I want to sort by id number.
20:25 wajasu if the id is in the menu and that is the order you want, maybe some javascript can reorder things.   just a suggestion.
20:25 jcamins_away datadoctor: that can't be your only goal. There must be a *reason* you want it sorted by id number, right?
20:25 datadoctor That way my menu would display in the order that I entered the authorized values.
20:25 datadoctor :)
20:26 jcamins_away Based on what you've said, I'd say it doesn't matter what order they're in because it's just a list of authorized value. However, clearly it is a problem.
20:26 datadoctor The system sorts by 'lib
20:26 jcamins_away Right, we are with you that far.
20:26 datadoctor which corresponds to the "Description" field.
20:27 jcamins_away However, I don't spend much time in the Authorized Values screen.
20:27 jcamins_away And I can't think of any reason why you would be.
20:27 jcamins_away I enter my Authorized Values, and never touch them again.
20:27 jcamins_away So you must not be talking about what I understand by "list of authorized values."
20:27 datadoctor Perhaps there is a better way to do this.
20:28 datadoctor Every library will want to customize their mobile interface with different menu items
20:28 jcamins_away I am thinking about a page on the staff client, where you choose a category, and get out a table.
20:28 rangi where do you want them to show ordered by id?
20:28 datadoctor I display it as a mobile jquery button menu on the mobile phone.
20:29 datadoctor I pull the array of authorized values, then print the Description with its destination link, and a matching icon.
20:29 rangi right, so wajasu's suggestion of reorder using jquery sounds like the win
20:30 datadoctor I like that idea.
20:30 jcamins_away Agreed.
20:30 * wajasu we have quarum
20:30 datadoctor I know that is used on many pages with tables. Do you think I can pull it off of one of those?
20:31 datadoctor I will take a look.
20:31 datadoctor Thanks. :D
20:31 jcamins_away Just as an aside, I think that using authorized values sorted by ID may prove too inflexible for you.
20:32 jcamins_away If you want to add something at the top, you have to change all the IDs.
20:32 rangi for reference for anyone like eythian who was wondering where CHB is, it's Central Hawkes Bay
20:32 wajasu maybe he should just add the list as javascript json, etc.
20:32 rangi napier/hastings area of the north island of nz
20:33 datadoctor That makes sense jcamins_away. I need a better way to order the list.
20:34 jcamins_away datadoctor: I am fond of jQuery sortable, but that's not something you'd want to do for hacked-together code... too much work that you'll lose if you want to upgrade. Better to design it in a way that can be contributed right off.
20:35 datadoctor Puts on thinking cap.
20:35 wajasu if the list is small and specialized, just embed it in you javascript/jquery code.  as a syspref  maybe
20:36 jcamins_away wajasu: smart.
20:36 datadoctor I like that idea.
20:36 jcamins_away Not as pretty as sortable, but much more maintainable.
20:36 jcamins_away (well, more maintainable for code that isn't in a state to get added to Koha)
20:36 jcamins_away (sortable is very, very easy)
20:38 datadoctor jquery mobile buttons are code-heavy, not so great to manage, that's why i want to use one button, and drop in the values.
20:38 datadoctor and repeat...
20:38 jcamins_away datadoctor: you would just store it as JSON, and handle the button populating using jQuery.
20:39 datadoctor OK, now we are getting somewhere!
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20:39 rangi you could use the reports restful service to do that
20:39 rangi in 3.10 up
20:39 drojf good evening #koha
20:40 rangi just write a report, then you can get it as json
20:40 jcamins_away rangi: ooh, and generate it on the fly? Nice!
20:40 rangi you could even make the report sort it for you
20:40 rangi finished :)
20:41 datadoctor Thanks rangi, wajasu and jcamins_away! You are really helping me think this through.
20:41 wizzyrea it's waht they're best at
20:41 rangi im actually best at finding random music
20:42 * jcamins_away is best at making people's heads explode with complicated MARC21 concepts.
20:42 wajasu jcamins: do you need me to test/signoff on 8209 followup before paul will even work it?
20:42 drojf how could anything MARC21-related be complicated?
20:42 gmcharlt repeat after me  -- select * from asset.copy does nothing in Koha!
20:42 gmcharlt :)
20:42 rangi[…]ub-terminator-ras  <-- this is ras stone (aka charlie) who works 3 metres away from
20:43 rangi he is part of the catalyst QA team
20:43 jcamins_away wajasu: that'd be great. It's very fast.
20:43 jcamins_away Do a search with the DidYouMeanFromAuthorities on.
20:43 jcamins_away You'll notice the suggestions are HASH(0x12345).
20:43 jcamins_away Apply patch.
20:43 jcamins_away Repeat.
20:43 jcamins_away You'll have headings. :)
20:44 * jcamins_away will respond to David's e-mail later.
20:44 rangi he just freestyles it over the beat its pretty cool
20:44 * wajasu freestyles pre signoff
20:44 rangi heh
20:44 datadoctor I'm enjoying the dub.
20:46 rangi its a pretty neat corner
20:46 wajasu whats he singin?   "what do you wantt me to sign... one after one we will sign."
20:46 rangi in the block of 4 desks
20:46 rangi we have charlie from ghana, our dubmeister
20:47 rangi julius, from the philipines who is blind and is our accessibility expert
20:47 rangi silvia from hungary
20:47 rangi and sam from nz, who is a metal listening security guy
20:47 rangi 4 of the 8 person qa team :)
20:49 datadoctor I'm audio-visualizing a soundtrack for Koha. I know there is already one for the Koha development video.
20:49 rangi oh i have a few playlists
20:49 rangi want one for bug squashing?
20:49 datadoctor :D
20:50 rangi!/play[…]ir+Money/57969319
20:50 rangi and also
20:50 rangi!/play[…]Dem+Bugs/56508714
20:51 rangi and for dev
20:51 rangi!/play[…]a+Hacking/8190140
20:51 rangi there ya go :)
20:51 jcamins_away lol
20:51 jcamins_away Great title for that first one.
20:51 rangi hehe
20:51 datadoctor I'm putting those to work on my next extermination effort. Thanks rangi!
20:53 datadoctor Those are great! I love to listen to Santogold while I work. Keeps the energy up.
20:53 rangi yep, they are all high energy ones
20:54 rangi each one has a few nz songs thrown in, to tie back to Koha
20:56 * wajasu votes for rangi as the officlal dj for GBSD
20:57 rangi its my gbsd now, friday here already, and tomorrow is saturday, so you are on your own then :)
20:59 * wajasu changes his system clock to NZ timezone.
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21:11 jenkins_koha Starting build #168 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
21:13 rangi
21:13 rangi those tests for C4::Search jumped people up a lot
21:14 rangi write tests, move up the leaderboard
21:14 jcamins_away rangi: those tests for C4::Search were *mammoth*.
21:15 jcamins_away Nearly 100% statement coverage in all the routines I wanted to test, and I wanted to test the really big ones.
21:15 rangi hmm perlcritic errors tho?
21:15 jcamins_away rangi: there's a patch you can sign off on. 7417
21:15 rangi http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Build/testReport/
21:15 jcamins_away That's why I sent you a message asking about TEST_QA, which was not set in my environment.
21:15 jcamins_away I fixed that now.
21:17 jenkins_koha Starting build #829 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 11 days ago)
21:19 rangi gotta go talk to about accessibility
21:19 rangi then ill take a look
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22:04 rangi awesome our opac is only hard to use, but not unusable
22:04 rangi and to make it easy to use, is very little work
22:19 rangi right back to pushing bugs then signing off
22:20 cait rangi++
22:43 rangi[…]ed-manufacturing/
22:43 rangi how cool is that!
22:45 * jcamins is going to have to go with "totally awesome!"
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22:59 rangi *sigh*
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23:16 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #168: SUCCESS in 2 hr 5 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/168/
23:16 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8524: Add a non-automatic barcode plugin
23:16 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8524 follow-up: fix broken test
23:16 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 8524: Followup FIX an undeclared variable $query
23:16 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8524 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Stable , Add barcode plugin that does not autofill
23:16 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8524 follow-up: fix Javascript syntax error
23:22 rangi hmm i think magnuse gbsd script is bustinated
23:22 rangi
23:23 jcamins rangi: What's wrong with it?
23:23 rangi 8677 and 8716
23:23 wahanui 17393
23:23 rangi are pushed to stable
23:23 rangi not needs sign off
23:24 jcamins Oh.
23:24 jcamins Yeah, sounds broken.
23:24 rangi seems when i change from pushed to master
23:24 rangi to pushed to stable
23:24 rangi it gets confused
23:24 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #829: STILL UNSTABLE in 2 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/829/
23:24 jcamins Woohoo!
23:24 jcamins 3.6.x passes all unit tests!
23:25 jcamins rangi: any idea what the syspref failures are from on jenkins?
23:25 rangi there isnt one anymore
23:25 rangi http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Build/testReport/
23:25 jcamins Oh, I'm looking at the wrong build.
23:26 jcamins Never mind.
23:26 jenkins_koha Starting build #169 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
23:27 rangi not ok 4 - Got a quote based on today's date.
23:27 rangi #   Failed test 'Got a quote based on today's date.'
23:27 rangi thats the daily quote one
23:27 rangi looks like a legit fail
23:28 jcamins Ooh, I bet I know what it is.
23:28 rangi the 3 perl critics will go away easily
23:28 jcamins Yeah, just as soon as my patch fixing them is pushed. :)
23:28 jcamins I bet the daily quote is due to the way the test works.
23:28 jcamins It's pre-DBD::Mock, and I think it makes an assumption that you're only running the test once in a day.
23:29 rangi holds queue is to do with that table
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23:35 rangi hmm
23:45 rangi melia:
23:45 rangi check out the new developers
23:45 melia yay! :)

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