IRC log for #koha, 2012-07-05

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00:02 mtj tomascohen: dump out the table structures, and run diffs on them
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00:36 Judit hi
01:00 mtj hi Judit
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02:31 ibeardslee rangi:
02:32 rangi yay!
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04:18 Oak Ahoy me hearties
04:18 Oak hello rangi :)
04:21 Judit hi oak
04:21 Oak hello Judit \o/
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05:37 rangi hi cait and druthb
05:37 cait hi rangi :)
05:37 druthb Hi rangi :)
05:37 cait and go to sleep druthb!
05:38 druthb :P
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06:04 Rakesh hi
06:05 Rakesh i installed koha
06:06 alex_a1 bonjour #koha
06:06 Rakesh it gives me a error about mysql
06:06 Rakesh i e
06:06 Rakesh Access denied for user 'koha'@'localhost' (using password: NO) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/ line 758.
06:06 Rakesh plz help
06:08 Rakesh alex_a1 can u help me
06:11 alex_a1 Rakesh: can you connect to your database with a mysql client
06:11 alex_a1 ?
06:12 Rakesh no
06:12 Rakesh it just gives this error only
06:13 Rakesh yesterday someone told me that he mysql passworf and the koha password cannot be differnt
06:13 Rakesh but still it givees this error
06:14 alex_a1 Rakesh: yes
06:15 Rakesh but it gives the error
06:15 alex_a1 Rakesh: can you open /etc/koha-conf.xml
06:15 Rakesh kk
06:16 alex_a1 and look for <config> -> <user> and <config> -> <pass>
06:18 Rakesh thanks bro it wrks
06:18 Rakesh :)
06:18 alex_a1 :)
06:18 Rakesh bii'
06:18 alex_a1 \o
06:18 rangi heh
06:18 rangi alex_a1++
06:18 rangi you have more patience than me
06:18 alex_a hehe
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06:25 marcelr hi #koha
06:26 alex_a hi marcelr
06:27 cait alex_a++ :)
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06:28 rangi hi marcelr
06:29 cait hi marcelr
06:29 marcelr hi alex_a, cait and rangi
06:29 cait marcelr: might turn out I was wrong about the ip thing - talking to our expert today
06:29 alex_a i don't know if it deserves a ++
06:29 alex_a :)
06:29 marcelr cait: what did he say?
06:30 cait only got a short mail, hope to catch him today
06:30 cait was travellig
06:30 marcelr ok
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06:30 rangi the thing still stands, that with a syspref it can work for any jurisdiction
06:30 rangi so even if its fine for germany, its immaterial imho :)
06:31 marcelr but is it really needed?
06:31 marcelr we did not have it
06:31 rangi who knows, but if you let people turn it on, they can if they want
06:31 rangi :)
06:33 cait marcelr: I had forwarded him the queston, but paul was faster with his mail on the mailing list
06:34 cait hopefully I will find out for sure what needs to be done
06:34 cait or not
06:34 cait and whatever we do should work for lists the same way then
06:35 rangi i just read everyones mail
06:35 rangi and forward it all to the cia
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06:36 rangi hi reiveune
06:37 reiveune hello rangi, everybody
06:37 marcelr rangi: so you did it :-)
06:39 cait we should just avoid all the emailing... can't we find a way to put it in people's dreams or heads directly?
06:39 marcelr koha 11.2
06:39 marcelr :-)
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06:42 rangi heh
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06:44 * marcelr i expected to see some response on dev list about the qa thing..
06:44 rangi only you and me eh?
06:44 marcelr some-> some more
06:44 rangi yeah
06:44 cait I haven't read them yet
06:44 marcelr ok you were mentioned even!
06:44 cait yeah rangi showed me
06:44 marcelr paul wants you in qa
06:45 rangi cait would be good at that, but then we are done one of our most prolific sign off people
06:45 marcelr cait++
06:45 cait I considered it last round, but really bug wrangling is enough for me right now
06:45 rangi done=down
06:45 marcelr true
06:45 cait and there is so much to do :(
06:46 cait trying to make more time, but at the moment things are crazy
06:46 marcelr need signoff is >100
06:46 marcelr almost always
06:46 cait yeah
06:46 cait we had it down to pretty good numbers after the hackfest in marseille I think, never again since
06:46 marcelr signed off=40; in 2011 it has been 100
06:47 rangi yep QA is working well
06:47 rangi what we need is more people signing off
06:47 rangi ie, qa isnt the bottleneck
06:47 marcelr yeah
06:47 rangi not until we get more ppl signing off anyway
06:49 cait koha is moving on fast
06:49 cait I am not so worried about the code sometimes
06:49 cait but about featues
06:49 cait features need some second perspective too
06:49 marcelr Feature Manager !
06:49 cait I mean I try reading the code and making suggestions as good as I can
06:49 cait trying to catch what could be a problem
06:50 cait but I think some of the features added recently I don't have a use case for
06:50 cait and that shoudl also be done
06:50 cait asking questions about the why and how to use things
06:50 cait and now I have to hurry and get myself to work :) bbl!
06:50 marcelr some reports miss background and we should ask for it
06:51 cait exactly
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06:51 rangi yeah
06:51 julian_m hello
06:51 cait hi julian_m
06:51 marcelr hi julian_m
06:51 * cait runs out
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06:52 rangi cait: your ideas are intriguing to me, and i wish to subscribe to your newsletter
06:52 rangi darn missed her
06:52 rangi
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06:52 julian_m hi marcelr
06:52 rangi hi julian_m and francharb
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06:54 Rakesh hi
06:54 julian_m hi rangi
06:54 Rakesh hi to all
06:54 Rakesh i installed koha on my server
06:54 Rakesh and it worked
06:55 Rakesh but now i want to install multiple instances of koha'
06:55 Rakesh http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.[…]ER-td3304116.html i was reading this
06:55 Rakesh and in the second reply it says to copy the koha and apache koha file
06:56 Rakesh but i dont know where to copy it
06:56 Rakesh plz help it says
06:57 Rakesh Unless you have reason to run them on separate IP addresses, this sounds  like serious overkill. You can just create a new DB from within mysql to  hold the data of the second one, copy the apache config from the running  one, change the location of the koha_conf.xml to one that specifies the  different DB and zebra information, change the server names that i
06:57 Rakesh i dont know where to copy the files
06:57 francharb hi rangi
06:58 francharb hi all
06:58 Rakesh hey rangi can u help me
06:58 matts hi #koha !
06:59 Rakesh hi matts and francharb
06:59 Rakesh please help
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07:02 Rakesh is there no one
07:02 Rakesh who can give me the guide
07:02 rangi id learn about how to run koha first, and how to do linux sysadmin
07:03 rangi before i tried to run multiple instances
07:03 drojf good monring #koha
07:03 drojf morning even
07:03 Rakesh i read the kiha wiki alsso
07:03 Rakesh but it was confusing
07:03 Rakesh i found the post easy
07:04 Rakesh so i read it
07:04 Rakesh but i dont know where to copy the diles
07:04 Rakesh *files
07:04 drojf that might be why it sounds easy, because it skips the complicated parts
07:04 Rakesh kk
07:05 Rakesh so which guide should i follow
07:05 drojf have you actually run koha and used it?
07:05 Rakesh yes
07:05 rangi yep it assumes you understand how do administer a linux server
07:05 Rakesh yes a little
07:05 Rakesh but i want such a system that
07:06 Rakesh it should run koha on different databases
07:06 rangi if you want to run multiple instances installing with the debian packages
07:06 Rakesh kk
07:06 rangi like jcamins and eythian said
07:06 rangi makes it easy
07:06 Rakesh yes
07:06 rangi you just koha-create instancename
07:06 Rakesh in the bash?
07:07 rangi why do you want multiple instances?
07:08 Rakesh actually i have a server and i want to use it for bussiness purpose
07:08 Rakesh so i want multiple instances
07:08 Rakesh so sholud it try this command in the bash
07:09 drojf for business purposes means you want to sell your koha services to people?
07:09 Rakesh no no
07:09 Rakesh i am actually a web designer  '
07:09 Rakesh and i want it
07:09 Rakesh plz tell which guide should i follow
07:10 Rakesh plz tell which guide should i follow?
07:10 Rakesh the koha wiki 1
07:10 Rakesh[…]Instances_of_Koha this is the page
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07:12 gaetan_B hello #koha !
07:12 rangi hi gaetan_B
07:12 drojf hi gaetan_B
07:12 * drojf is off to the shower
07:12 gaetan_B :)
07:13 rangi i was gonna point rakesh at  (which liw might recognise)
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07:15 rangi hi asaurat
07:15 liw oh that old thing
07:15 asaurat hi !
07:16 rangi hehe
07:16 rangi was the best i could find on short notice :)
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07:28 * Oak waves
07:29 paul_p good morning #koha
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07:32 kf morning #koha
07:32 kf ... and back
07:37 marcelr hi paul_p
07:37 paul_p hi marcelr & kf & others
07:38 marcelr paul_p: no more responses on your qa mail unfortunately..
07:39 paul_p marcelr mason answered privately (he was on a non-koha project for 3 weeks, and should be able to do some QA next week)
07:40 marcelr ok
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07:42 rangi back
07:55 kf I still have to read the mails
08:04 rangi eek *head explode*
08:04 kf rangi?
08:05 rangi mailing list
08:05 wahanui mailing list is, like, at[…]ha-mailing-lists/
08:06 kf now I am not sure I want to look there
08:07 kf lol
08:07 kf ok
08:07 marcelr :-)
08:07 drojf we should really have something to make installation easier. like some kind of pack where all you need just gets installed. that would help people a lot
08:08 drojf good morning kf and marcelr
08:08 kf drojf: packages?
08:08 wahanui i think packages is at
08:08 marcelr hi drojf
08:08 drojf kf: yeah we could call it that maybe :D
08:08 kf I think it's already pretty easy
08:08 kf the problem is people with no command line skills
08:08 kf at all
08:08 drojf heh
08:08 drojf i was joking
08:09 drojf of course it's there, but there are a lot of people lately that refuse to use it
08:09 drojf because in "that blog post i found" from 2008 or 2006 they are not mentioned
08:10 rangi this is quite cool
08:10 rangi
08:11 rangi it even has a blink!!
08:11 drojf heh
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08:30 rangi hi jransom
08:30 kf hi jransom
08:32 jransom hiya
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08:32 jransom oh look at that - i got my irc client on my phne woring )
08:33 jransom Rangi: enjoying your holiday
08:34 rangi for the most part yup
08:35 jransom shame about the weather
08:36 jransom so i have been thinking about this issues count problem in 3.6
08:36 jransom and wondering how to tackle this in a methodical way and just check off each and every source of issues
08:37 rangi its not a problem as long as you use the statistics table
08:37 rangi and join to items and deleteditems
08:37 jransom the problem Paul and I both have is that we have huge drops in issue counts after upgrading from 3.2 to 3.6
08:37 jransom and we have to answer for this every month
08:37 rangi paul uses the circulation wizard
08:38 rangi that doesnt count correctly post 3.2.x
08:38 rangi the fix is to use a custom report that uses the statistics table
08:39 kf rangi is right -I don't recommend using the wizard
08:39 jransom so if had is that what we are using?
08:40 jransom ouch
08:40 jransom is that what we are using
08:40 rangi no but you might be using a report that was written for 3.2
08:40 jransom i wonder if he runs our sql report whether if would find his missing issues
08:41 rangi if its one that either doesnt join to the items table, or joins to a union of items and deleteditems then yep
08:41 jransom I thought you had checked our sql report to confirm it was getting them all
08:43 rangi i cant remember if i did or not
08:43 rangi i know i wrote a new one that is correct
08:43 jransom ok - well lets hope that i am running an old report :)
08:43 jransom that would be an easy fix
08:44 jransom so is the new script stored anywhere i can access it ?
08:44 rangi its a report
08:44 rangi in saved reports
08:44 jransom in our install?
08:44 jransom live site?
08:45 marcelr rangi: ohloh did not update koha anymore for 21 days; problem with commit history or .. ?
08:45 jransom ok - i'll go hunting and see if there is more than 1 report (maybe Danny is running the wrong one)
08:46 rangi yeah i emailed them
08:47 jransom i can see 1 report only loaded in 2010
08:47 rangi i probably put it in a wr for you to put in
08:47 jransom ok - ill hunt for finished wrs too
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08:53 rangi hi eythian
08:53 eythian howdy
08:54 jransom heya Robin :)
08:55 eythian jransom: hello there. Did you get my note, Shannon Gillies says hi :)
08:55 jransom yeah
08:55 jransom how the hell did you run into Shannon?
08:56 eythian Well, I'm in Brighton. Turns out she is too, and is friends with some of my workmates here.
08:57 jransom well thats amazing :)
08:58 jransom whats she doing there?
08:58 jransom such a small world aye
08:59 eythian right now working in a cafe, trying to get a job as a journalist.
08:59 eythian tis a bit :)
09:02 jransom well please say hi for me. I liked her enormously
09:02 eythian will do, I'll probably be seeing her on Tuesday as that's pub quiz night :)
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09:02 ropuch Good morning #koha
09:03 jransom good  morning
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09:13 * kf waves at eythian
09:13 kf you made it into our newsletter
09:13 eythian hi kf
09:13 eythian cool
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09:20 Brooke o/
09:24 Brooke wizzyrea:
09:25 jransom oi
09:32 marcelr kf++
09:32 kf thx marcel
09:33 marcelr good point in your reply
09:37 Brooke kf++ forevar
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10:04 rangi hmm what??
10:04 rangi bug 8358
10:04 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8358 major, P1 - high, ---, oleonard, NEW , Purchase Suggestion Link don't open
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10:06 rangi we get some bizzare bug reports these days
10:09 eythian that is pretty odd
10:09 rangi thats gotta be some local mod or syspref
10:09 rangi i checked that doesnt exist in the templates
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10:11 eythian yeah, it's using relative links like everywhere else.
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10:11 eythian well, he hasn't said what page he's coming from that does this, it's possible there's some strange abberation somewhere.
10:12 rangi i just grepped for
10:12 eythian ah right
10:12 rangi its all relative
10:13 rangi ie all links to /cgi-bin/koha/
10:13 rangi so i wonder if its from some livecd
10:13 rangi and thats whats set in apache or something
10:13 rangi or hosts
10:14 rangi it seems like somethign someone would set somewhere in a livecd for ppl to change
10:14 eythian yeah. Though it's a strange thing to make needing to be set, given it'll work fine the way it's implemented by default.
10:15 eythian (that was a terrible sentence)
10:15 rangi :)
10:15 rangi yep
10:15 Brooke (indeed, you sound like a bloody Yank talking that way.)
10:15 rangi well i've update the bug, we'll see what happens
10:15 eythian Brooke: never!
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10:48 kf_lunch back
10:51 eythian Oh nice, the Ubuntu install for "Amnesia" comes with PDF manuals and background stories.
10:54 kf Amnesia?
10:55 eythian
10:55 drojf unfortunately it does not come with a better graphics card
10:56 eythian I haven't actually tried it on my laptop, it can possibly manage.
10:56 drojf i think i tried it briefly and it did not work. did not try a lot though
10:56 eythian I seem to have a pretty good intel chip in here, though I have no idea what it actually is.
10:57 drojf heh
10:57 drojf as long as it works, who needs to know :)
10:57 eythian "Braid" uses 3D too (though quite differently) and works fine on this.
10:57 eythian once I enabled the patent-restricted OpenGL functions, anyway
10:58 eythian DRI thing talks about sandybridge
10:58 drojf braid worked ok for me
10:59 eythian hmm Ok. I'll have to give amnesia a try, perhaps not when I'm at work though.
11:00 drojf or not talk about it at least :D
11:01 eythian heh
11:01 eythian mind you, I should spend some time finishing Braid, too.
11:01 eythian It's a gorgeous game.
11:01 drojf yes it's nice
11:02 eythian <-- for those who don't know, though it needs more screenshots.
11:03 kf I forgot the password for my own wiki..
11:03 kf *sigh*
11:03 eythian heh
11:03 eythian shouldn't your browser store it?
11:04 kf the problem is that the one on my laptop does...
11:04 kf but I am not at the laptop now
11:04 eythian > San Diego Bay launched 20 minutes worth of fireworks in the span of 9 seconds in an epic 4th of July failure. This is what it looked like...
11:04 eythian ah right.
11:04 kf so.. didn't type it in a while
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11:10 Rakesh hi
11:10 Rakesh hello guys
11:10 Rakesh want your help again
11:10 Rakesh :)
11:11 Rakesh :D
11:11 Rakesh any 1 there
11:11 Rakesh i tried to install koha
11:11 Rakesh on multiple instances
11:11 Rakesh as per described in the guide of koha wiki
11:12 Rakesh and i am having a previous koha installation running too
11:12 Rakesh and when i try to restart apache it says
11:13 Rakesh port :80 is overlapping and same error on port 8080
11:13 Rakesh also
11:14 Rakesh and it gives pherhaps u need named virtual hosts
11:14 Rakesh plz help
11:14 Rakesh any 1 who can help me
11:15 Rakesh hey rangi can u help
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11:34 jcamins You cannot access multiple instances via IP.
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11:37 drojf Rakesh: are you sure that multiple instances is what you are looking for? are you familiar with the concept of library branches in koha?
11:41 Rakesh yes
11:41 jcamins marcelr: around?
11:41 Rakesh ok i solved the prob of virtual hosts but it says access denied for user koha1
11:42 Rakesh in /usr/share/instance1/lib/C4/
11:44 marcelr jcamins hi
11:45 jcamins marcelr: I'm looking at bug 8203. Unfortunately I haven't figured out how to download old versions of FF yet, but it works fine on Firefox 13.
11:45 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8203 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Failed QA , Should be possible to save individual authorities
11:45 Rakesh what do ou guys think is the solution
11:45 marcelr i will try an update, jcamins
11:45 marcelr but 9 is not that old in ff terms..
11:46 jcamins No, it isn't.
11:46 jcamins Are you able to download bib records in the staff client using the Save menu?
11:46 marcelr will check it
11:47 marcelr yes that works fine
11:47 jcamins And just to check, if you do an Alt-reload of an authority page, does that fix it?
11:47 marcelr i refreshed a couple of times..
11:48 jcamins Hm.
11:48 Rakesh hey any one around that can help
11:48 jcamins Rakesh: you entered the wrong password.
11:49 marcelr jcamins: in is called from a form; on auth side from a yui menu (there is a difference)
11:50 jcamins Hm.
11:51 jcamins And you're on a branch that is master + that patch?
11:51 marcelr yes
11:53 jcamins If you right click, does "Copy link address" work?
11:53 Rakesh no i checked it in koha-conf.xml it uses the right password
11:54 jcamins Rakesh: in that case you messed something up while trying to do things with the virtual host.
11:54 Rakesh see what i just did is that
11:55 Rakesh in the httpd-conf file of the second install just changed the ports
11:55 Rakesh 81 an 8081
11:55 Rakesh and in apache ports.conf i entered listen 81
11:55 Rakesh and listen 8081
11:55 jcamins That should work.
11:55 Rakesh thats all and i entered virtualhost *:81
11:56 Rakesh ya but i am getting the problem
11:56 jcamins However, if you are now getting access denied, that means your username/password isn't right.
11:56 Rakesh but i checcked everywhere
11:56 Rakesh it is the same'
11:56 jcamins Check again.
11:56 jcamins We can't troubleshoot things magically.
11:57 marcelr jcamins: copying link address does not work; i installed ff 13.0.1 english; the problem persists ?!
11:57 marcelr yui thing ?
11:57 jcamins That's what I'm thinking.
11:57 jcamins Are you using YUI from Yahoo's servers?
11:58 marcelr pointing at yahoo, yes
11:58 jcamins I will set my computer to do the same and see what I see.
11:58 marcelr on a clean master + only 8203
11:59 marcelr commit 74f6e97396eb7368fb4e408bcf00ca9ff399c5a3
11:59 Rakesh according to u in which files should i check
11:59 jcamins Rakesh: I'm sorry, I have to go back to my work now.
12:00 jcamins Hm. The commit from when I just applied it to master from bz was aa7331...
12:00 Rakesh kk
12:00 Rakesh bii
12:01 * jcamins is trying it in IE.
12:01 drojf haha, you got IE
12:02 marcelr i see that i can move 3 commit forward
12:02 jcamins marcelr: it's yuipath.
12:02 jcamins Lemme see if I can troubleshoot this.
12:02 jcamins Good catch.
12:02 marcelr no wisdom involved :-)
12:02 jcamins drojf: yeah, I figure if anything is going to be curmudgeonly, it'll be IE.
12:05 jcamins Weird. There is no difference in the markup.
12:06 marcelr jcamins: note that the detail template works (via form get)
12:07 marcelr can you specify new blank target in the yui url ?
12:07 jcamins What do you mean?
12:07 jcamins Oh, I see.
12:07 jcamins I shall try.
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12:25 jcamins This is really weird.
12:28 jcamins Ooh, fixed it!
12:30 marcelr ok what did you do?
12:30 marcelr new patch forthcoming?
12:30 jcamins Yeah, I'm doing a follow-up.
12:30 jcamins I'm putting a copyright statement for the MADS stylesheet.
12:30 marcelr ok
12:31 jcamins The problem was the "id" line.
12:31 jcamins Apparently that's only used for non-menu buttons in the newest version of YUI.
12:31 marcelr will take a look
12:32 jcamins gmcharlt: the server that is on ran out of disk space, hard.
12:32 marcelr id: savemenuc ?
12:32 jcamins That's the one.
12:34 marcelr this thing might be interesting to copy to dev list; when something with yui changes, also test both yuipaths too
12:34 * jcamins is just going to beg oleonard to change menubuttons to jQueryUI next. ;)
12:34 jcamins *was just
12:35 jcamins Attached follow-up.
12:35 jcamins Oops.
12:36 jcamins No I didn't.
12:36 * jcamins tries again.
12:36 marcelr yes, i see it
12:36 jcamins There we go.
12:37 jcamins When you're signing off on that, could you remove the link in the commit message? It's pointing to the wrong report.
12:37 marcelr i will do
12:37 marcelr just remove that link; who reads that?
12:38 jcamins No one, but it offends me to have the wrong link in a commit message. ;)
12:39 marcelr i deleted it
12:39 jcamins Thanks. :)
12:39 jcamins marcelr++
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12:40 marcelr ok, it works now for both yuipaths
12:41 jcamins Yay!
12:41 kf :)
12:41 kf good point about testing
12:41 kf we should start a wiki page for testing... maybe (wanted to do that for like forever...)
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12:57 marcelr jcamins: bug 8206 ?
12:57 wahanui hmmm... bug 8206 is ready for cait's sign off.
12:57 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8206 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Add additional search options to authority browser in OPAC
12:57 kf lol
12:57 kf didn't she sign off on that?
12:58 jcamins She did.
12:58 marcelr yes you did
12:58 jcamins marcelr: yes?
12:58 marcelr jcamins: are you sure about 1=Match ?
12:58 marcelr cannot find it in bib1.att
12:58 marcelr you know the old grs way..
12:58 marcelr :-)
12:59 jcamins Hm.
12:59 marcelr Search authorities ERROR 114
12:59 marcelr no results of course
12:59 jcamins Good question.
13:00 jcamins I thought I added it for 7284.
13:00 * kf tested it with grs only
13:00 kf dom was not in then
13:00 marcelr i see 8804
13:00 marcelr match-heading
13:00 wahanui match-heading is missing?
13:00 marcelr he wahanui again>
13:00 marcelr ?
13:00 marcelr wahanui: what are you doing?
13:00 wahanui marcelr: wish i knew
13:01 marcelr ;)
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13:01 marcelr kf: you could not have results with 1=Match ?
13:02 jcamins I will check into it.
13:02 jcamins Hm.
13:03 marcelr will put my note in the report
13:03 jcamins You are right... the version of bib1.att and record.abs in Master are not the ones that I carefully rewrote.
13:04 marcelr one day match will be matching
13:04 jcamins This is really weird.
13:05 marcelr another report of that jcamins on top of signed off queue
13:05 marcelr bug 8256
13:05 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8256 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Reports webservice should allow selection by name
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13:05 * jcamins didn't want  you to be bored.
13:05 marcelr signed by cait as well
13:06 marcelr you did not interfere the qa discussion
13:06 marcelr wouldn't you like to be qa er too?
13:06 kf marcelr: :( I am not sure how that happened - I did test.
13:07 marcelr last question was for jcamins
13:07 kf hm
13:07 marcelr kf: no problem
13:07 kf maybe my zebra fiels are different from recent testing of something else?
13:07 jcamins marcelr: I hardly have time to sign off on things!
13:07 kf I don't overwrite them often, I might have missed that
13:07 gaetan_B hmmm, i just noticed that in older versions (namely 3.0) overdues were grouped by borrower in, which made a lot of sense for libraries who use the 'email' links on this page to send overdue notices. Now they are sorted by return date, and you would end up sending one email per late document rather than per borrower. Was there a reason behind this change ?
13:07 marcelr i have some reports there too very small
13:08 kf gaetan_B: different kind of workflow maybe - couldn't it be sortable?
13:08 jcamins kf: I think because you tested before DOM? Somehow my Zebra config got reverted.
13:08 gaetan_B kf: the table is not sortable and i couldn't find a syspref for this
13:08 kf gaetan_B: and the mail links don't work so well - there is some untranslated text in the subjects and maybe a problem with diacritics
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13:09 kf jcamins: that's a possibility
13:09 kf jcamins: I did def test before dom was pushed
13:09 gaetan_B i guess i'll tell them to export a csv and manage it this way
13:09 marcelr bugzilla is very slow
13:10 marcelr if it is even slow
13:11 jcamins marcelr: you don't see 8900?
13:11 jcamins In your bib1.att?
13:11 jcamins My record.abs was still reverted, but the bib1.att was not.
13:12 marcelr oops it is in master, but not in mine?
13:12 jcamins Yeah.
13:12 jcamins I mean, you won't get any results, but it shouldn't have given that error.
13:13 marcelr i am terribly sorry :-)
13:13 marcelr and bugzilla is too probably
13:13 marcelr no response yet
13:15 jcamins Okay, I unreverted my changes to record.abs for MARC21.
13:15 jcamins (by copying the changes back into the file)
13:16 jcamins My changes to UNIMARC remain.
13:16 marcelr another test note: get your zebra config back in line with master.. *sigh*
13:17 jcamins That too. :P
13:17 jcamins But I have a follow-up for you which will make it better. :)
13:17 marcelr nice thing of 8256 is: no yui, no zebra
13:17 jcamins I think what happened is that when I was signing off on bug 7818 I inadvertantly trampled my indexing changes.
13:17 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7818 critical, P1 - high, ---, robin, Signed Off , support DOM mode for Zebra indexing of bibliographic records
13:18 jcamins (from 7284)
13:18 marcelr that was a big one
13:18 jcamins Yeah. And I guess I was a little too focused on making sure DOM worked.
13:20 kf so I am not guilty of bad testing? ;)
13:20 kf nah I am, because I didn't update my index files too
13:20 kf *sigh*
13:20 jcamins At the time they would have been up to date.
13:21 jcamins marcelr: follow-up attached to bug 8206.
13:21 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8206 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Failed QA , Add additional search options to authority browser in OPAC
13:21 kf marcel++ for testing patches!
13:21 kf caught 2 problems that would have caused problems
13:21 marcelr jcamins: svc/report is not a nice perl file
13:21 kf pretty cool :)
13:22 marcelr my selinux does not like such files
13:22 jcamins It doesn't? Hm.
13:22 marcelr he expects .pl at the end; i told him so
13:22 jcamins There are a bunch of files like that.
13:22 marcelr not that much
13:22 * jcamins didn't name the file, just edited it.
13:23 jcamins About a dozen.
13:23 marcelr could be, yeah; but since it changed, i have to relabel it
13:23 kf hm I think a pl ending is not recommended by some perl books?
13:23 kf wouldn't it be better to check for the first line of the script maybe?
13:23 marcelr have a patch for that waiting; but it must include that svc/report now too
13:24 jcamins svc/report is not a new file, so your patch may already have it.
13:24 marcelr no i mean opac/svc/report
13:24 marcelr sorry again
13:24 eythian there's no real need for a perl file to end in .pl, and there are good arguments why it shouldn't.
13:25 eythian especially when in a URL
13:25 marcelr but there are also good arguments why it should
13:25 eythian I haven't seen any :)
13:25 jcamins eythian: it works with SELinux.
13:25 marcelr that's why they found out the file extension stuff :-)
13:26 eythian jcamins: that sounds like a misconfiguration in selinux then, you're basing the filetype detection on a bit of information that's not actually related to the filetype.
13:26 marcelr eythian: about consistency, we have 1000s of perl scripts and 10 do not end with pl ?
13:27 eythian sure, that's an argument for it in Koha, but not in general.
13:27 jcamins eythian: that may be. I don't use selinux.
13:27 jcamins I guess I probably ought to.
13:27 jcamins I know it has something to do with security.
13:27 marcelr just an additional security layer to make your life easier or miserable .. just depends
13:27 eythian yeah, it makes it feasible to restrict what something can access to only things it has a reason to access
13:28 eythian I think apparmor on ubuntu does a similar thing
13:28 eythian (although SElinux possibly goes further, as it also fits in user-based restrictions)
13:28 marcelr but nevertheless i am using it
13:28 eythian presumably you should retrain it, can you tell it to go into "learn" mode?
13:29 marcelr jcamins: have to go, but will look at both patches soon
13:29 jcamins marcelr++
13:29 marcelr i claimed them now..
13:29 marcelr bye
13:34 * wizzyrea waves
13:34 * wizzyrea yawns
13:36 kf hi wizzyrea :)
13:38 kf paul_p++ # splitting circ improvements up into smaller pieces
13:45 kf hmm
13:45 kf can someone test something for me on current master?
13:45 kf oh
13:45 kf I think I found the problem, never mind!
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13:58 kf question: is it a bug that the print view of lists only print the first page?
14:01 nengard do i remember (i think kf said it) that for notices the predue and advanced notice have to have the codes they have to work? or can we use any code we want?
14:02 nengard kf ? yes i think that is a bug
14:02 nengard the lists thing ? finding it
14:03 nengard hmmm ? can't find the bug
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14:07 kf nengard: they have to have their codes
14:07 kf nengard: afaik!
14:08 nengard so it looks at the branch and the code combo?
14:08 kf nengard: about the lists - did you mean it's already reported somewhere?
14:08 nengard I thought I remembered that bug but can't find the report
14:08 kf nengard: it shoudl do that - but at the moment you can't create the notice like that :(
14:08 kf I think I filed a bug for that
14:09 nengard I think I did the bug on that you commented
14:09 nengard I'm just checking so I can update the manual accordingly
14:09 kf lol
14:09 kf ok, let's sort this out - I am getting confused
14:09 kf notices
14:09 kf I think there is a bug or even 2
14:09 nengard but 7997
14:09 nengard Okay - notices there is a bug ? lists I thought there was, but there isn't
14:09 nengard bug 7997
14:09 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7997 major, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, NEW , can create a notice with the same code
14:10 nengard for notices
14:10 kf bug 8259
14:10 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8259 major, P2, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Library for notices not saving correctly
14:11 kf ah
14:11 kf also: bug 3383
14:11 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3383 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Item due reminder digests - cannot display title information
14:11 kf oh sorry
14:11 kf I meant bug 8258
14:11 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8258 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Branch specific  DUEDGST notice is not used
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14:12 kf maybe all those things are connected to each other
14:12 kf I have to say I don't undertand my bug report totally right now :(
14:12 nengard kf linked them all together with the see also
14:12 nengard for now
14:13 kf good idea
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14:57 francharb hi all
14:57 francharb could someone explain me why there are 2 links 'budgets" and 'funds' on the aquisition home page?
14:58 francharb There was only one link recently...
14:58 francharb but it came back as 2 links
14:58 francharb and it's bad...
14:59 francharb to go on the fund page, you need to select a budget first
14:59 francharb ...
14:59 francharb :(
15:00 francharb kf, have you noticed that?
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15:00 francharb there were two links (budgets and funds), then, just one (budget & funds) and now, there are two links...
15:00 Rakesh hi guys
15:01 Rakesh please solve my mysql problem
15:01 Rakesh while opening the koha web installer
15:02 Rakesh it says access denied for the user using password (yes)
15:02 francharb Rakesh, could you tell us more?
15:03 francharb is it a fresh install?
15:03 kf francharb: sorry, no test installation in reach right now - haven't noticed yet but sounds like a bug?
15:03 kf Rakesh: you probably gave it the wrong mysql password
15:03 kf Rakesh: the login information in your koha-conf.xml file should match your configuration for myswl
15:04 francharb kf, I just asked at biblibre and apparently, it comes from us
15:04 francharb :(
15:04 kf francharb: the bug?
15:04 wahanui the bug is probably that if you scan the barcode on the circ page you aren't allowed to renew it that way
15:04 reiveune bye
15:04 francharb but yeah kf, it's not a good idea
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15:04 kf perhaps bad merge?
15:04 francharb kf, I will investigate more
15:05 francharb but having "funds" as a link is a bad idea. It goes on one fund with no logic..
15:05 francharb :(
15:05 Rakesh Access denied for user 'koha1'@'localhost' (using password: YES) at /usr/share/instance1/lib/C4/ line 758. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/instance1/lib/C4/ line 31. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/instance1/lib/C4/ line 31. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/instance1/opac/​cgi-bin/opac/
15:05 kf Rakesh: maybe this will help you: http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.[…]or-td4497883.html
15:05 Rakesh this is the error
15:05 kf yes
15:06 kf wrong configuration
15:06 kf francharb: I think it's maybe because the meaning funds / budget got reversed
15:07 kf forget bug
15:07 wahanui kf: I forgot bug
15:07 francharb no kf
15:07 francharb[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8040
15:07 huginn Bug 8040: minor, P3, ---, stephane.delaune, Pushed to Stable , a menu misnamed in budgets
15:07 francharb but I dont get it at all
15:07 kf let me check
15:07 francharb I will ask Stephane tomorrow where this come from
15:07 francharb It doesn't make sense
15:08 kf hmmm
15:08 kf yes
15:08 kf it doesn't
15:08 kf I think a budets and funds link was ok
15:08 kf but I think it's mostly just a misunderstanding
15:08 kf I woudl kill the funds link
15:09 kf and change it back to a link to show the budgets page, becasue you can navigate to the funds from there
15:09 wahanui kf: that doesn't look right
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15:09 kf francharb: perhaps just revert the change?
15:10 francharb I will ask Stephane more about this and see what to do to go back to the "budgets & funds" link which was more logical
15:10 kf yes
15:11 kf I think funds would only make sense with a budget parameter
15:11 kf but where would we get this?
15:11 francharb thats right
15:11 francharb that's why, budgets & funds was better
15:11 francharb ;)
15:11 kf yep - I agree :)
15:11 francharb you choose your budget first
15:11 kf I think the change was meant well
15:11 kf but it's not so practical
15:11 francharb and see the related funds
15:11 francharb :)
15:12 * kf nods
15:12 francharb I go back on the acquisition module. I give a training next week
15:12 francharb I need to see the new stuffs
15:12 francharb :)
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15:12 kf :)
15:13 kf francharb: would be cool to look at some of the devs together some tiem
15:13 kf we didn't figure out a testing plan at the hackfest :(
15:13 francharb I know ! :(
15:13 kf and with the new bugs paul filed today... lots of testing will be needed in circ
15:13 francharb :(
15:13 kf I still think it's probably too big for one person - we have to find a way to do that as a groups
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15:14 francharb I agree kf
15:14 francharb I just need to find time to focus on that
15:14 kf yeah me too
15:14 kf I spent a day on http:recorder
15:14 francharb but lately, I had a LOT of work to do
15:14 kf but there was a problem with the session cookie - so I didn't get it working :(
15:14 kf wnted to record some test cases
15:14 kf same here
15:14 kf it's CRAZY.
15:15 francharb welcome to my world
15:15 francharb ;)
15:15 kf our world :)
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15:16 francharb hopefully, I will have more time in 2 weeks and during august
15:16 francharb be sure that I will let you know
15:16 francharb when I will come up with a testing plan
15:16 francharb ;)
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15:17 kf francharb:  ok :)
15:18 kf I will let you know once I figured out the recording
15:20 Rakesh see
15:21 francharb ok kf
15:22 Rakesh i checked everywhere for the passwodd if it is incorrect'
15:23 Rakesh but it seems everything is right
15:23 Rakesh now plz help
15:23 Rakesh it says using the password yes
15:24 Rakesh but it gives error access denied
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15:24 kf can you access the databaseon command line with the user and password you have in the koha configuration file?
15:24 kf mysql -u<youruser> -p<yourpassword> <yourdatabasename>
15:26 Rakesh see i have three users
15:26 Rakesh root works with pass
15:26 Rakesh koha works
15:26 Rakesh but koha1 gives error
15:26 Rakesh in mysql command line
15:26 Rakesh i entered mysql -u koha1 -p
15:27 Rakesh it asks password
15:27 kf yes
15:27 Rakesh i give
15:27 kf that's the better way to do it anyway
15:27 kf -p and then let it ask
15:27 Rakesh then it says access denied
15:27 kf thre is your problem then
15:27 kf if it doesn't work in mysql, it can't work in koha
15:27 Rakesh so how should i solve it?
15:28 Rakesh see i have a root
15:28 Rakesh and i have a koha alredy running
15:28 kf I think you have to repeat the step where you give the koha mysql user permissions to use the database
15:28 kf see the link I send you
15:28 kf before installing Koha you should have done something like this when creating the database :mysql> grant all on <kohadatabasename>.*mysql>\
15:28 kf to'<kohadatabaseuser>'@'localhost' identified by\
15:28 kf '<kohadatabaseuserpassword>';
15:29 kf without the \ - that's from copying it out of the mailing list mail
15:29 kf sorry, I have to go back to work now
15:29 Rakesh i did it
15:30 Rakesh but still
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15:35 Rakesh any1 else who can help
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15:43 tajoli Hi, anyone working on bug  8251 (Patrons are systematically debarred at checkin) ?
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15:44 gaetan_B bye !
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16:01 wizzyrea bug 8251
16:01 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8251 critical, P1 - high, ---, koha, Needs Signoff , Patrons are systematically debarred at checkin
16:02 tajoli I want to test it but there are two patches
16:02 tajoli Do I need to use them together ?
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16:12 drojf hi tajoli
16:13 tajoli hi
16:14 drojf as i understand it, you should use both, but i am not sure how to test since the followup patch changes days to day just everywhere it occurs as far as i understand.
16:15 tajoli I try to use both then I report
16:15 tajoli Bye
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16:20 YeahKoha Question: We just upgraded to 3.02.05 from 2.2.9 the upgrade went reletively smoothly.  However we cannot checkout any books to any patrons.  Every patron comes up with "Cannot Check Out!"  There is no red warning below the error.  This happens on every Patron, even the Admin account.  Any insights into what we missed?
16:21 YeahKoha None of the patrons are disbarred or lost card or validate address.
16:21 jcamins YeahKoha: most likely you need to configure your circulation rules.
16:21 jcamins YeahKoha: you know that 3.02.05 is incredibly old, right?
16:22 jcamins The current versions are 3.6.6 and 3.8.2.
16:22 YeahKoha We did that for each branch and a default rule too.
16:23 cait YeahKoha: I would strongly recommend updating to a more current version
16:23 cait and fix your problems there
16:23 cait it might be something in the dat
16:23 cait a
16:23 cait did you use the conversion scripts?
16:23 cait or did you export/import your data?
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16:25 YeahKoha We used the 2.2 to 3.0 update scripts after importing the database to a test server. We still have our original intact.
16:25 jcamins You should think about upgrading the rest of the way, to 3.6.6 or 3.8.2 (I prefer 3.6.6).
16:26 jcamins No one here has used 3.2.5 in quite a while.
16:27 YeahKoha What is involved in the database update for 3.6? Do we have to update our database at several levels or is there just the 2.2 to 3?
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16:28 cait YeahKoha: it's less complicated
16:28 cait there will be one script you have to run
16:28 cait all other things the web installer will handle for you
16:28 cait and the script is noted in the release notes - jcamins 3.4?
16:28 YeahKoha Do you have a recommended install guide for 2.2 to 3.6?
16:30 jcamins cait:
16:30 YeahKoha or recommended distro?
16:30 jcamins YeahKoha: you already got to 3.2.5, so now you just install 3.6.6 over it.
16:30 YeahKoha I see.
16:30 jcamins It will automatically update, except for the script, which you will have to run manually, once.
16:30 YeahKoha see if that fixes the issues with the DB
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16:31 YeahKoha will do. Thanks!
16:33 YeahKoha Thank you for your help.  Really appreciated this is driving me nuts.  I hope we can figure it out.
16:34 cait if you are there
16:34 cait we will know our way around better too - and it will easier to help you :)
16:34 cait jcamins: was not sure about the version with the script in the release notes :)
16:35 jcamins cait: oh, yes, 3.4.
16:37 mib_nogxa0 Is it Serial Claim notice is generating in koha
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16:54 Rakesh hello guys
16:54 Rakesh i have got a problem'
16:54 Rakesh i installed koha
16:54 Rakesh and it worked
16:54 Rakesh and i installed it on multiple instances
16:55 Rakesh when i try to run the web installer it says acces denied using password yes
16:55 Rakesh earlier i was able to access the root account
16:55 Rakesh but now it also says that access denied too
16:55 Rakesh plz help
16:55 jcamins vendors?
16:55 wahanui Koha Support Providers can be found at
16:56 jcamins Rakesh: you may want to consider hiring someone to assist you in the setup.
16:56 Rakesh no
16:56 Rakesh :)
16:56 Rakesh pls tell how to repair the access denied error'
16:56 jcamins kf did tell you.
16:57 jcamins You have to set up a MySQL user properly.
16:57 jcamins No one is paid to answer questions on this channel, so if you need more attention than we can afford to give for free, you need to find someone you can pay to answer questions.
16:57 Rakesh really?
16:58 Rakesh can u tell me which files should i check
16:58 jcamins Really.
16:58 Rakesh cant bilieve
16:58 jcamins
16:58 Rakesh but tel
17:00 Rakesh what should i open in this
17:01 jcamins You should read through the manual so you understand how to use MySQL.
17:01 Rakesh ok thanks
17:15 drojf aaaand nigeria takes the lead
17:17 cait can't understand not more voting for US
17:17 drojf probably the holiday
17:17 jcamins cait: apathy.
17:17 jcamins That too.
17:17 jcamins And there are three venues.
17:17 jcamins So 1/3 of the votes go to any venue.
17:18 jcamins *only 1/3
17:18 drojf yes all us no.1 votes together would be first position now
17:19 jcamins Actually it's probably more fair this way.
17:19 drojf nengard: are you actually looking at all the names/ email addresses/ organisations of the voters?
17:20 nengard drojf I'm not looking at anything right now, but I do have that availability
17:21 nengard remember each place gets points based on it's ranking - so if it's voted #1 it gets 5 points, #2 4 points, and so on .. so even if it's not all #1 it could still be picked based on score
17:21 drojf ah ok. is that eplained somewhere?
17:21 cait yeah, which is why I voted wrong - should have left some empty
17:21 drojf explained even
17:21 cait on the wiki
17:21 wahanui hmmm... on the wiki is more information about the packages
17:21 nengard it was explained in 2011 ? not sure I put that on the 2013 one
17:21 nengard and I should
17:21 cait we should put it into the survey somewhere next time maybe
17:21 nengard I can update the survey description if you want
17:21 jcamins It was in an e-mail I think.
17:22 cait nengard: I think it might be good
17:22 nengard no prob
17:22 cait but not sur eit's fair in the middle
17:22 nengard I'll go add it - now a search question ?
17:22 cait undecided really
17:22 cait what do the others think?
17:22 nengard when I search for the word 'not' or a title with the word 'not' in it i have problems
17:22 nengard if it's just 'not' i get an error
17:22 nengard if it's a title with 'not' in it i don't find the title
17:22 cait uhoh
17:22 nengard now i thought zebra didn't use boolean phrases
17:22 jcamins cait: well, that's the way it was announced it was going to work.
17:22 cait sounds like koha is trying to be smar
17:22 drojf it's no change to the mechanism, just more clarification. i don't see why that should not be added now
17:22 cait t
17:22 nengard Error: Can't call method "sort" on an undefined value at /home/nengard/kohaclone/C4/ line 404.
17:23 cait I think not is maybe removed from your search
17:23 jcamins nengard: I think you probably know the solution to this: "don't use the word 'not' in searches."
17:23 cait and not not finding something because you tell it to not search for the word after not
17:23 cait could that be?
17:23 nengard jcamins - try and teach all patrons that ? now give me a better answer
17:23 cait rewrite
17:23 jcamins ^^
17:23 jcamins Yeah, that's what it comes down to.
17:24 jcamins I was talking with a few people about possibly taking on that project.
17:24 * cait loves jcamins' projects
17:24 cait which reminds me I have some testing to do :)
17:24 cait after dinner
17:24 jcamins Sort of a question of whether enough librarians _really_ care about it.
17:24 cait I think we have to come up with some changes for the solr/zebra integration?
17:24 SJeffery Are you supposed to not rank locatios that you absolutely would not be able to attend, or rank them anyway?
17:24 jcamins After my e-mail, some people popped up and said "oh, yeah, we care, we didn't realize it could be fixed."
17:25 nengard survey description updated
17:25 cait SJeffery: I think that would make sense
17:25 cait jcamins: which mail?
17:25 wahanui which mail are we talking about?
17:25 cait hehe
17:26 nengard SJeffery, I didn't explain it well this year and that's my fault - if you can't attend a place you shouldn't vote for it at all .. if we need to start the voting again now that that's clear I can do that ?..
17:27 jcamins SJeffery: I ranked them at the bottom. I guess I should've left it blank, maybe. I don't know.
17:27 jcamins cait: someone asked about searching, I explained that there was a big problem, which I'd love to tackle, but it was too big for a hobby-type project.
17:27 cait ah :)
17:28 cait very cool!
17:28 nengard jcamins that's why i'm wondering if i should redo the survey ?. cause i wasn't clear - totally my fault
17:28 nengard i'll leave it to the community to decide
17:28 nengard but the points is how we did it other years
17:28 jcamins I'm not sure. Maybe sound out an e-mail asking?
17:29 jcamins Oh, I knew it was by points, I just didn't think about whether I should be voting for places I couldn't possibly go or not.
17:29 cait I think restarting now might cause more trouble
17:29 cait and anyone could have asked
17:29 cait including me
17:30 cait so with the new note we shoud let it run I guess
17:30 jcamins That makes sense.
17:31 SJeffery I have now voted, hopefully Reno wins!
17:31 cait reno!
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17:32 nengard email sent to the list- please reply with your opinions
17:40 jcamins nengard: in all seriousness about the search problem, it's a small symptom of a really big problem which can't really be solved with anything less than a rewrite.
17:40 nengard okey dokey
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17:56 mustard There are two Evergreen positions open in MO. Suppose I'd get spanked if I sent a link to the Koha list?
18:00 cait MO?
18:00 jcamins The home state of Shoeless Joe!
18:00 jcamins Missouri.
18:00 wahanui somebody said missouri was forming a consortium.
18:00 jcamins mustard: I think I've seen ads for Evergreen folks on the Koha list before.
18:06 nengard okay ? so ? at some point i pushed the 3.10 manual to the 3.8 branch ? can anyone tell me how to find out where i screwed up?
18:07 nengard found it
18:07 nengard it might not be the entire 3.10 manual
18:07 nengard is 'IssueLostItem' a preference in 3.8?
18:07 nengard nope ? hmm
18:10 cait nengard: not sure, maybe check bugzilla?
18:10 drojf i'll look
18:11 drojf we don't have that in our 3.8
18:14 nengard yeah it's not there
18:14 nengard so i found the commit
18:41 rangi cait++
18:42 rangi im glad im not the only, "wait ... what?" to the restart idea
18:43 cait no, you are not :)
18:43 jcamins Very weird in a salad.
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18:43 jcamins And it's still boring.
18:44 jcamins (caraway seeds are very weird in a salad, that is)
18:45 cait heh, wrong window? :)
18:45 jcamins Yup.
18:46 cait :)
18:52 rangi caraway seeds are wrong
18:52 rangi wrong i tells ya
18:55 jcamins What is this?
18:55 jcamins The international "I hate caraway" community?
18:55 cait rangi: I hate them too hehe
18:55 cait which I told jcamins in the other window
18:56 drojf stop caraway hate!
18:56 rangi 293 votes .. i dont think we can throw them all away now
18:56 drojf not after i actually calculated all the 5x, 4x, 3x etc
18:58 nengard i guess if someone feels strongly I can edit their vote on the db level ? not that I want to really open that can of worms
18:58 nengard I feel bad cause I didn't explain
18:58 nengard and only those who were involved in other years realized
18:59 nengard so if I have to do something to make people feel it's fair I'll do it
18:59 cait I think we all could have noted that earlier
18:59 cait I think people from the channel were early voters
18:59 rangi fwiw reno is winning now
18:59 cait I think it fairer to keep it the way it is
18:59 rangi if that makes me not want to change it
18:59 cait ?
19:00 jcamins cait: "you"?
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19:00 cait me?
19:00 wahanui That's Ms. Cait to you! or in a very good mood today :) or a librarian, you will get wahanui's information or a hero or signing off on wahanui's patch :)
19:00 rangi sorry if that makes people not want to change it
19:00 * cait is confused now
19:00 nengard me too :)
19:00 nengard hehe
19:01 wizzyrea i say don't change it - if someone complains you can nuke their vote and put in a new one on their behalf
19:01 wizzyrea or don't restart it
19:01 wizzyrea or you can nuke their existing vote (if they put their name on it) and give that person a do-over
19:02 jcamins That makes sense to me.
19:02 wizzyrea like, I might go for that
19:02 jcamins If they didn't put their real name on it, it was kind of fraud anyway.
19:02 * wizzyrea did it wrong
19:02 wizzyrea (and I did it last year too!)
19:02 cait wizzyrea: same for me, but I am keeping my vote
19:03 wizzyrea well there are some places that are highly unlikely that I'd get to go to
19:05 rangi 295 now
19:05 francharb If I way, we should'nt pay so much attention to the voters but more on the hosts..
19:05 francharb s/if i way/if i may
19:05 rangi what he said
19:06 francharb in the end, it's like a random vote
19:06 rangi but we also cant change that now
19:06 rangi issues with the hosts, should come up before the voting starts
19:07 jcamins What's the problem with the host?
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19:07 cait hey eythian
19:07 francharb jcamins, it's not a "problem"
19:07 rangi i dont think there is any, but just an example
19:07 rangi but i think thats what the 3 months or so before the voting are for
19:07 jcamins I'm still able to access it.
19:07 francharb it's more like saying 'good for you, everybody want to go'
19:08 jcamins Wait, host as in "institution where KohaCon2013 might be held"?
19:08 francharb but in the end "well, you have been picked randomly"
19:08 jcamins Never mind.
19:08 * jcamins got confused.
19:08 francharb jcamins, yes
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19:08 jcamins I thought you meant there was a problem with the server the survey was on.
19:08 francharb ahah
19:08 francharb nope
19:08 cait ok
19:09 cait I am still confused :)
19:09 cait am I the only one?
19:09 rangi random vote?
19:09 rangi that bit is confusing me
19:09 francharb but nengard seems to feel bad about the voters. but i just wanted to say that it's not a big deal
19:09 rangi :)
19:09 francharb and i would feel more bad for the host
19:09 francharb because we cant say
19:09 rangi ahh yes
19:09 rangi i agree
19:09 francharb "hey, everyboday want to go"
19:09 francharb but only
19:10 francharb "hey guys, you've been picked randomly"
19:10 francharb so I would say, let's ask the hosts how they feel about it
19:11 francharb "randomly" in the way, that people didn't know how the voting worked...
19:12 francharb did I make myself clear?
19:12 francharb :)
19:12 rangi yep
19:13 francharb :)
19:13 rangi i just think restarting now, makes more mess
19:13 francharb anyway, if not, just forget it ;)
19:13 * jcamins doesn't care.
19:13 francharb jcamins++
19:13 francharb :)
19:13 jcamins :)
19:14 rangi to me, it would look like on no, argentian is winning, we better change the vote
19:14 rangi on no = oh no
19:14 rangi and i didnt even vote for them :)
19:14 francharb :)
19:15 francharb weird
19:15 rangi wherever it is, it will be great
19:15 francharb madonna just poped up in my mind
19:15 francharb :)
19:15 francharb rangi++
19:16 cait rangi++
19:17 * libsysguy just wants to go for once
19:17 francharb libsysguy, where are you from?
19:17 libsysguy I want to go to hackfest actually
19:17 libsysguy Texas
19:18 rangi wasnt someone organising a US user group thingy this year? or did that fall through?
19:18 rangi lenora .. iirc
19:18 libsysguy i haven't heard anything out of it
19:20 jcamins She was waiting on the fiscal year, I think.
19:21 rangi cya
19:21 francharb 0/
19:22 rangi (that was an ironic cya :) im not actually leaving)
19:22 francharb :|
19:22 francharb :)
19:22 francharb :D
19:22 rangi what other emails can i be grumpy at I wonder
19:22 cait francharb: smile  :)
19:22 francharb If you look at it fast, it will get animated
19:22 francharb ;)
19:22 cait hehe
19:22 cait I did
19:22 drojf rangi: you could give your address to rakesh
19:22 cait francharb: my scrolling is broken again
19:22 wahanui i already had it that way, cait.
19:23 cait brb
19:23 jcamins Hehe.
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19:23 francharb her scrolling?
19:23 drojf how does scrolling break?
19:23 francharb cait, your scrolling?
19:23 cait my window stopped scrolling down automatically
19:23 cait very annoying
19:23 rangi drojf-- # that idea is horrible!!!!
19:23 cait huh?
19:23 cait what did I miss?
19:23 drojf lol
19:23 drojf you wanted to be grumpy
19:23 rangi 07:21 < drojf> rangi: you could give your address to rakesh
19:24 jcamins drojf++ # for helping
19:24 rangi drojf++ # the mail to the list was great though
19:24 * jcamins runs around shouting "I'm helping!!!"
19:24 drojf :D
19:24 francharb cait, unity scrolling is bad
19:24 francharb I removed it
19:24 jcamins I found a WM that I was pretty happy with.
19:24 cait not sure unitiy is to blame for problems in pidgin?
19:24 jcamins I've forgotten which one.
19:24 jcamins It was not fvwm.
19:24 jcamins cait: yup, probably.
19:25 drojf my pidgin scrolls nicely
19:25 rangi i removed unity (well never installed it to be fair)
19:25 francharb cait, the way the scrolling bar is diplayed
19:25 cait ah
19:25 cait hm maybe
19:25 cait I am trying out debian at work now
19:25 rangi "I am hungry" says ataraua
19:25 cait in my koha vm
19:25 rangi atarau too
19:25 cait you should feed him :)
19:25 rangi brb
19:25 francharb once I updated my ubuntu, I will go back to gnome
19:26 francharb I'm reading me and all I can think is that I need a break
19:27 francharb I forgot "of" somewhere
19:27 francharb will you be able to replace it?
19:27 francharb ;)
19:27 francharb see ya
19:28 drojf i like how 3% did not vote for rank 1 in the survey
19:28 drojf or i'm misinterpreting the statistics
19:29 francharb_afk "we dont want any leader!"
19:29 francharb_afk "we wont vote for number 1"
19:29 francharb_afk ;)
19:30 cait lol
19:30 cait go and take your break!
19:30 drojf lol
19:35 rangi nope, you arent misinterpreting :)
19:35 rangi w
19:35 rangi ahhh
19:35 rangi "we're number 2 we're number 2"
19:40 rangi jcamins and wizzyrea: wanna guess what laurel found in the shop and atarau is eating?
19:40 cait hope it's not caraway
19:41 wizzyrea ummmmmmm fennel?
19:41 drojf lol
19:41 wizzyrea :D
19:41 wizzyrea fudge?
19:41 wahanui rumour has it fudge is the ambrosia of koha
19:41 drojf hahahaha
19:42 jcamins Peanut butter?
19:42 rangi hehe no cait at all the fudge
19:42 cait haka cereal?
19:42 rangi shreddies
19:42 cait rangi: :P
19:42 jcamins Gnocchi?
19:42 wahanui i heard Gnocchi was[…]occhi/Detail.aspx
19:42 wizzyrea :D
19:43 rangi wow i cant type this morning
19:43 cait what are shreddies?
19:43 rangi some american cereal
19:43 jcamins Never heard of it.
19:43 drojf Shreddies Damen Brief €29.90. Bequeme, modische Unterwäsche, die dazu noch mit einem integrierten Aktivkohlefilter unangenehme Gerüche beseitigt - ideal für Menschen mit Magen- und Darmerkrankungen und chronischer Flatulenz.
19:43 francharb_afk[…]ost_shreddies.jpg
19:43 drojf only funny for those that speak german
19:43 drojf or use google translate
19:43 rangi francharb_afk is addicted to #koha !
19:43 cait drojf: eeew
19:43 rangi :)
19:43 francharb_afk rangi, looks like it
19:43 cait rangi: he is missing us, can you blame him?
19:43 francharb_afk ;)
19:44 wizzyrea ! like Chex!
19:44 * wizzyrea loves wheat chex.
19:44 francharb_afk chex?
19:44 * cait likes wheatabix
19:44 cait does that count?
19:44 francharb_afk cait, really?
19:44 cait yeah?
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19:45 wizzyrea http://www.foodandfunfromhome.[…]s/P/146-846-B.gif
19:46 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
19:46 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 22.5°C (9:42 PM CEST on July 05, 2012). Conditions: Light Thunderstorms and Rain. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
19:46 cait @wunder Konstanz
19:46 drojf weeeee
19:46 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 18.2°C (9:40 PM CEST on July 05, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady).
19:46 cait weeee :)
19:46 francharb_afk when I was youngerand I tested wheatabix, they were the most boring cereals I ever had...
19:46 francharb_afk :)
19:46 cait francharb_afk: heh
19:46 francharb_afk I should try again
19:46 cait true
19:46 rangi they still are
19:46 jcamins I tried wheetabix recently.
19:46 francharb_afk ahah
19:46 jcamins Shari thought they must be better once you get older.
19:46 jcamins Nope.
19:46 rangi but good with fruit
19:47 rangi you just cant eat them plain
19:47 francharb_afk jcamins, LOL
19:47 rangi here they are called weetbix
19:47 rangi kahu loves them
19:48 francharb_afk yeah, rangi, fruits and some wheatabix crumbs to make them crunchy
19:48 francharb_afk but not to much
19:48 rangi
19:48 francharb_afk ;)
19:48 rangi nz 1990's
19:48 rangi we were cheesy as hell
19:49 francharb_afk :)
19:49 rangi[…]c&feature=related <-- these are better
19:49 cait kiwi kids...
19:51 cait now I got that in my head
19:51 drojf haha me too
19:51 drojf kiwi kids, wheat somethingsomething. must. eat. weird. cereal.
19:51 cait lol
19:51 cait exactly!
19:52 drojf wow, impressively thundery, my thunderstorm
19:52 cait oooh
19:52 cait mine is already over
19:52 * cait is jealous
19:52 drojf :)
19:55 rangi the barbeque one is my fave
19:56 mustard rangi: did the earthquake a couple of days ago rattle your windows?
19:56 rangi not really, sounded like a train tho
19:58 * wizzyrea wants an impressively thundery thunderstorm
19:58 wizzyrea @wunder lawrence ks
19:58 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 38.1°C (2:57 PM CDT on July 05, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 27%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Falling). Heat advisory in effect until 7 PM CDT Friday...
19:58 * wizzyrea sighs
20:00 drojf you should definitely have some thunderstorm
20:01 cait drojf: not sur eit's a good idea in kansas
20:01 cait drojf:  in the end another poor witch ends up under a house!
20:01 cait and children get lost on yellow brick roads
20:02 francharb_afk and I'm the one who needs a break?
20:02 francharb_afk ;)
20:02 drojf lol
20:02 * wizzyrea giggles
20:02 cait hey!
20:03 cait it#s a classi
20:03 cait c
20:03 wizzyrea those are *tornadoes*
20:03 cait ohok
20:03 francharb_afk :)
20:03 wizzyrea bit out of season for those, especially this year
20:03 cait you can have a thunderstorm then
20:03 wizzyrea maybe saturday/sunday
20:03 wizzyrea first time in 3 weeks we've had even the slightest chance of rain in the forecast
20:03 mustard @wunder 64506
20:03 huginn mustard: The current temperature in APRSWXNET St.Joseph MO US, Saint Joseph, Missouri is 35.6°C (2:34 PM CDT on July 05, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Falling). Heat advisory in effect until 7 PM CDT Saturday...
20:03 wizzyrea nicer where you are
20:03 francharb_afk @wunder lyon, france
20:04 huginn francharb_afk: The current temperature in Lyon, France is 20.0°C (9:30 PM CEST on July 05, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Rising).
20:04 mustard well, only slightly relatively :)
20:04 wizzyrea very nice in france :)
20:04 francharb_afk already the autumn in july...
20:04 wizzyrea hm, you have more humidity than us - it probably actually feels hotter there
20:05 wizzyrea yea I suspect we are going to have an early fall, we had a super early sprint
20:05 wizzyrea spring*
20:05 francharb_afk when they say humidity 73%, they mean that it's raining almost all the time
20:05 francharb_afk ;)
20:06 wizzyrea oh I meant in st joseph :) it's about 1.5 hours drive away from here
20:06 francharb_afk ahah
20:06 francharb_afk :)
20:08 * francharb_afk is listenning to rihanna
20:08 francharb_afk "'m Flying out to Pisa, just to get some pizza"
20:08 francharb_afk it's pure genius
20:08 francharb_afk ;)
20:08 mustard This French item will make everyone feel cooler.
20:08 francharb_afk \0/
20:11 nengard @wunder 19030
20:11 huginn nengard: The current temperature in Highland Park, Levittown, Pennsylvania is 38.3°C (4:09 PM EDT on July 05, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 29.75 in 1007 hPa (Falling). Excessive heat warning in effect until 8 PM EDT Saturday...
20:11 nengard :(
20:11 mustard I usually have a couple of bottles in the refrigerator, but it looks like I'm out. May have to run down to the store on my break.
20:11 francharb_afk 38.3°C?
20:11 francharb_afk really?
20:11 francharb_afk 0_0
20:12 mustard It's been over 100°F for the past week here (I'm only 40km away from wizzyrea)
20:12 rangi @wunder nzwn
20:13 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (8:00 AM NZST on July 06, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
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20:16 * rangi decides to go into work for a bit today, while the kids go to their grandparents, to catch up on some work
20:17 rangi bbl
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20:38 Brooke o/
20:39 drojf hi Brooke
20:39 Brooke :)
20:40 jcamins Greetings.
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21:01 wajasu hi
21:01 wahanui hello, wajasu
21:02 francharb_afk see ya
21:03 wajasu i'm going to try to do a patch today.  my people want to see diacritics in the label printer for pdf output.
21:03 * jcamins hands wajasu the elephant gun.
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21:07 * wajasu kicks off building my virgin VM dev environment
21:08 * wajasu whilst simultaneously heads off to write a bug
21:09 jcamins wajasu: there's already a bug report for the diacritics in labels.
21:10 mtj hmm,  it's a very tricky unicode to pdf translation problem
21:10 jcamins Very, very tricky.
21:11 mtj i think its almost  impossiible, currently :/
21:11 wajasu i have had a fix for over a year.  i just need to probe it.
21:11 wajasu prove it.
21:11 * wizzyrea gets the popcorn
21:11 mtj gotcha, very impressive!
21:11 wajasu its a romance
21:11 mtj oooh, i love romances!
21:12 wajasu i mean slasher
21:14 mtj wajasu:  i'm quite curious to see how you did it
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21:18 Guest2215 Brooke
21:18 Guest2215 you have stolen my name.
21:18 Brooke ha ha :P
21:18 Guest2215 no really
21:18 * jcamins wonders if Brooke is having a conversation with herself.
21:18 Brooke have you considered an _
21:18 Guest2215 I despise _
21:18 Guest2215 I would rather be Guest2215
21:19 * jcamins is pretty sure that Brooke is Brooke.
21:19 Guest2215 is Brooke registered with nickserv?
21:19 Brooke yep
21:19 Brooke for like months now
21:19 Guest2215 I ask because my nick registration on this server appeared to expire, when I went mia for a couple years
21:20 Guest2215 and I got back and someone else had it :(
21:20 jcamins Brooke != Guest2215?
21:20 Guest2215 and now I have found you.
21:20 Guest2215 you, the villain who registered my name
21:20 Brooke We can settle this with sabres if you'd like :)
21:21 Brooke 3 bouts of 15 best of 3 wins the nick?
21:21 Guest2215 I don't even own 15 sabres!
21:21 Guest2215 much less 45!
21:22 * wizzyrea refills the popcorn
21:22 * wizzyrea munches
21:23 * jcamins has been assured that there are in fact two different people in that conversation.
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21:23 * ibeardslee readies the bandaids
21:25 Guest2215 ooh, library software
21:25 Brooke a yep
21:25 Guest2215 no wonder you guys are cool
21:25 jcamins Brooke is the only one of us who generally walks around with a sword.
21:25 jcamins I think.
21:25 Brooke thought Ian did on occasion as well
21:26 * wajasu kohacloning
21:27 * wizzyrea routinely walks around with light sabers, does that count?/
21:27 * drojf begins to wonder whether we have to redo all the kohacons because nobody ever knew how the voting works
21:27 Brooke that does count wizzy
21:28 jcamins drojf: yes!
21:28 jcamins One per month for the next decade! :D
21:28 Guest2215 well as I don't have a sabre
21:28 Guest2215 and Brooke is legit
21:28 Guest2215 I guess I just have to find myself another name
21:29 Guest2215 for now. *glare*
21:29 jcamins Wait, chris_n wanted the nick Brooke?
21:29 Guest2215 yes
21:29 Guest2215 no?
21:29 wahanui no is failing unit tests
21:29 * jcamins realizes that the last two digits are different. Never mind.
21:30 Brooke you can use 00s for the os
21:30 Guest2215 this may not be the last you see of me!
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21:30 jcamins I should stop reading three things simultaneously. I keep on missing key pieces of information.
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21:32 rangi back
21:33 Brooke wb
21:38 mustard I wanna be at the booootom of the list
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21:53 rangi[…]e-magician-memory
21:55 sekjal_mobile hi, #koha. been away a couple days. what's up with the KohaCon 13 vote?
21:56 jcamins sekjal_mobile: some people are unhappy, some people are happy, and some people don't care.
21:56 rangi i think the consensus has been that since some people didnt understand how it worked, they are being allowed to recast their vote
21:56 * jcamins falls into the final category.
21:57 * wizzyrea bops about
21:57 sekjal_mobile ah... polls are still open, right?
21:57 rangi i dont think anyone is happy, i just dont want to shit all over the nigerians who have a few hours of internet a day to appease 1stworldproblems
21:57 rangi yes until the 17th
21:58 sekjal_mobile great. all the kefuffle on list had me thinking it was already tallied
22:03 sekjal_mobile ok, back to the highway. back on normal schedule tomorrow.
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22:04 Brooke I'm mostly happy with it. I'd be unhappy if folks indicated that they wanted to vote for summat and couldn't. Most of the complaints I've seen have been we've overvoted, not under.
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22:05 Brooke it's not like overvoting can really hurt a preference election, anyway.
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22:09 wajasu should i branch off master, or a specific version? for a patch
22:09 jcamins wajasu: master. Always.
22:10 wajasu ok
22:10 rangi yep, unless it jcamins or I have said something like
22:11 rangi 'this patch in master wont apply to 3.8.x, can you please send one for 3.8.x'
22:11 jcamins Right.
22:11 rangi we do that occassionally on a bug report in bugzilla
22:11 jcamins In that case you should follow the instructions. :)
22:11 wajasu ok.
22:11 rangi that is quite rare though
22:16 wajasu i'm getting my koha-dev environment set up, then will confirm bug exists, write bug report, branch bugXXXX, make fix, confirm fix, gen patch, email patch to list, attach patch to bug report, label bug "NEEDS SIGNOFF"
22:16 jcamins Right.
22:17 rangi perfect!
22:17 rangi it will be your first patch eh?
22:19 wajasu 2nd.  the last time i tried, it wasn't taken.  but that was over a year ago.
22:19 rangi ahh
22:19 rangi is it still there?
22:19 rangi i mean was it a did not apply problem or .. failed qa one?
22:20 wajasu now i have a virgin environment, and can be sure it is like what you see.
22:20 rangi perfect
22:20 rangi you can be number 187
22:21 drojf hm. something's missing
22:21 drojf someone
22:21 rangi ?
22:24 drojf nevermind, it is not his time yet
22:25 wajasu i'm just going to grab a record from the LOC z3950 server with a diacritic, and document that in the bug, so a fresh install should be sufficient.
22:26 jcamins wajasu: if you make it support Unicode (like, really), I'm sure I could be persuaded to test it with a non-Latin character set.
22:27 wajasu Template:Plugin:HtmlToText is new
22:27 jcamins Yes.
22:27 jcamins Also Text::Unaccent.
22:32 wajasu Hmm. what is the htmltotext deb package called.  i got the unaccent one.
22:33 rangi libtemplate-plugin-htmltotext-perl ?
22:34 wajasu ok
22:34 jcamins It's in the k-c repo, not Debian standard.
22:36 wajasu that worked. i have the k-c in my vm  :)
22:36 * wajasu webinstaller finished
22:37 * wajasu now confiming bug
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22:46 rangi sweet
22:54 wajasu ok grabbed LOC record and exported PDF label and see:
22:54 wajasu 1150Jahre Marköbel, 850 Jahre Baiersröderhof
22:54 wajasu 3886542378
22:54 wajasu Books
22:54 wajasu 943/.416
22:54 wahanui 2266.82692307692
22:55 * wajasu now writing bug.
22:55 * wajasu so i can hava bugXXXX number to  branch with
22:55 rangi mtj++
22:56 jcamins Yay!
22:56 rangi wajasu++
23:01 rangi liw++
23:01 rangi koha-upgrade-schema rules!
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23:20 wajasu is there a goog way to determine the build date for my git clone, or just reference koha-common 3.8.1 or such?
23:20 wajasu for the bug report
23:20 rangi hmm?
23:20 jcamins It doesn't matter.
23:20 jcamins You should always keep your clone up to date.
23:20 jcamins (for development)
23:21 jcamins And as for the version in the bug report, you just mark it master.
23:21 wajasu yes but when someone read the bug a few months later, how will they know what version/hash i saw the  bug?
23:21 jcamins It'll have the date.
23:21 wajasu ok
23:22 mtj wajasu:  i try to paste the commit hash, with my bug-report
23:27 mtj oops, i mean - i try to include the commit hash that my patch was created from
23:27 wajasu ok will do
23:28 wajasu should it be critical? or major? or blocker.
23:29 mtj prolly just 'normal' or 'trivial' ?
23:30 wajasu i'll put normal, someone else can change it.
23:30 rangi hmm so
23:30 rangi if i have
23:31 wajasu its realted to bug2246, should i add it to the cc list?
23:31 rangi <span class="results_summary"><span class="label">Type: </span><img src="/opac-tmpl/prog/famfamfam/silk/book.png" alt="book" title="book" class="materialtype"/> Book </span>
23:31 rangi wajasu: yes please
23:32 rangi if i have that html .. how do i hide it with jquery or css ?
23:32 rangi my brain is not working
23:33 jcamins Ummm...
23:33 jcamins jQuery.
23:34 mtj $(. results_summary).hide()
23:34 rangi ahh i forgot to mention there are lots of results_summary
23:34 mtj but then add a 'child' selector too :/
23:34 rangi ah right ta
23:35 * rangi takes a crack
23:36 * wajasu Bug8375 is what I'm working on
23:39 mtj $(.results_summary .label).hide()
23:39 jcamins $('.materialtype').parent().hide();
23:39 rangi ohh
23:39 rangi jquery wars!
23:39 * jcamins thought the question was "which?"
23:40 mtj all results_summary elements, with a child element of a 'label' class?
23:40 jcamins mtj: every single piece of information on the page has the class results_summary.
23:40 rangi jcamins: that works perfectly!
23:40 jcamins You can't use results_summary or label, or the solution would be CSS. :)
23:40 jcamins We really ought to fix that.
23:40 rangi yeah too many of them
23:40 rangi *nod*
23:42 mtj ah, yep - i was waaay off :/  trying to hide the 'results_summary' elements
23:47 wajasu i need the CHI, CHI:Driver:Memcached, DateTime:TimeZone   deb package names.   adding  -perl didn't help
23:47 jcamins wajasu: they're not all available from
23:47 jcamins The CHI ones are completely optional, though.
23:47 jcamins DateTime::TimeZone should be libdatetime-timezone-perl.
23:48 wajasu ok. thx.

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