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* jcamins |
gazes in befuddlement at the subroutine he just discovered in C4::Circulation. sub TooMany. |
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rangi |
heh there be dragons |
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rangi |
i think about 50 ppl have poked at that |
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jcamins |
And did anyone ever figure out what the sub's name referred to? |
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jcamins |
Myshkin suggests it's the number of times I try to use my computer when he's waiting for petting. |
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jcamins |
GetRecordValue = a sub to use to get something that is neither a value nor part of a record |
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rangi |
i think toomany issues of a given item |
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rangi |
is what it used to do |
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Thankfully that's not code I need to look at, but I'm a little perplexed by what "too many issues" means. |
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rangi |
checkouts in your parlance :) |
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rangi: I know what you mean by issues. |
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jcamins |
What I'm not sure of is too many in what context. |
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jcamins |
The item has been issued too many times, historically? The book has been issued too many times without being discharged? |
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jcamins |
Oh. |
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jcamins |
I'm tearing my hair out wondering why I keep on getting an error from MARC::Field::update. |
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jcamins |
It would be because there is no 942 field. |
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jcamins |
My favorite comment that I've seen today: # Otherwise, it'd need a POD. |
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jcamins |
The comment, by the way, is inaccurate. |
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POD is very much required. |
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jcamins: this borrower has too many current issues of this type |
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jcamins |
rangi: ah. |
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jcamins |
Thanks. |
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git_hooks++ |
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kia ora #koha |
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cait |
hi #koha |
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Oak |
hello cait :) |
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hi Oak |
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vfernandes |
guys one question... how it works the Koha Offline application? |
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vfernandes: there was some documentation about that that was sent to the Koha list just a few days ago, if you have a look in the list archives you should be able to find it. |
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ok... but what is the structure of one KOC file |
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I don't know. Probably creating one and looking at it is your best bet. |
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oleonard |
Hi everyone |
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kf |
hi oleonard :) |
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kf |
very quiet day today |
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oleonard |
Quiet week |
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kf |
hm only on #koha |
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* oleonard |
thinks he'll bug fix again today. It's just too much fun. |
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kf |
don't tempt me! :) |
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* oleonard |
throws his arms in the air and shouts Wheeeeeeee!! |
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kf |
meany |
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* sekjal |
has just written his first patch for a Dokuwiki plugin... not as much fun as patching Koha, to be sure |
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oleonard |
Why not sekjal? |
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sekjal |
I've gotten used to Perl... going back to PHP is less exciting for me |
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sekjal |
also, the feature I just added is... very very limited |
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sekjal |
not even necessarily a good idea |
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oleonard |
:) |
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kf |
sekjal: now I am curious :) |
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sekjal |
kf: there is a plugin for Dokuwiki that will reformat a date string into "XX days since|until <somemessage>" |
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sekjal |
it's called Countdown |
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sekjal |
my feature is to just display the XX part, so you can do other math on the result |
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kf |
ah :) |
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kf |
sound snot too bad of a feature |
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kf |
I mean, doesn't sound like a bad idea :) |
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sekjal |
my first pass at it doesn't handle units other than days very well... |
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sekjal |
not sure if it's worth fixing or not |
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sekjal |
mostly I just want a way to highlight things that are going to expire "soon" |
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kf |
Oak++ |
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oleonard |
? |
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kf |
nice mail |
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jcamins_away |
@later tell druthb See you June 4 in Kansas City! :D |
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huginn |
jcamins_away: The operation succeeded. |
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oleonard |
addbooks.pl requires "edit_catalogue" permission, but the template checks for "CAN_user_editcatalogue_edit_catalogue" in a couple of places. Is it just me or is that nonsensical? |
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oleonard |
If you "CAN'T_user_editcatalogue_edit_catalogue" you can't get to the page! |
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oleonard |
the follow-up question is: Shouldn't you be able to get to that page if you have edit_items permission? |
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oleonard: druth: jcamins_away: is there any cronjob to regularly update/create patrons from an LDAP in the koha version ? Has there ever been any need for that ? We had... But we may be quite |
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hdl1 |
unusual |
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* oleonard |
has no idea. |
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oleonard |
druthb I think is traveling back home today |
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oleonard |
Seems logical to me though |
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sekjal |
hdl1: would this be to pre-populate the Koha DB with users from the LDAP, before their first login to the OPAC? |
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hdl1 |
sekjal: yep |
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hdl1 |
or to update accounts from LDAP regularly... |
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sekjal |
wouldn't work with auth_by_bind, since you wouldn't have the account passwords. |
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sekjal |
but if that's not a problem, I think it could be a pretty handy feature |
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sekjal |
I recall folks asking for something like that back in my support-vendor days |
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wizzyrea |
oleonard: I think the syspref is like, "asking a question" - can the user editcatalogue (major permission group) Edit the Catalogue (minor permission) |
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hdl1 |
sekjal: all you would need is a user with read access. |
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hdl1 |
iirc we have that working with an auth_by_bind |
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oleonard |
I don't understand what you're getting at wizzyrea |
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kf |
oleonard++ |
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sekjal |
hdl1: it's possible, if the LDAP had such a user. my experience tends to be with Active Directory connections, which don't like doing that |
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wizzyrea |
it's ok, i'm probably not making sense. |
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wizzyrea |
also, good morning |
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hdl1 |
mmm could be. |
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oleonard |
Am I correct that this syntax will give access to users with either one or the other permission? |
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oleonard |
flagsrequired => { editcatalogue => 'edit_catalogue', editcatalogue => 'edit_items' }, |
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oleonard |
Seems to be the case based on my test but I wanted to make sure |
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oleonard |
Or does that require both? |
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hdl |
sekjal: bug 8123 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8123 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , cronjob to pre-populate/Update patrons from ldap data |
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hdl |
if of some interest |
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sekjal |
hdl: cool |
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oleonard |
Or maybe it only requires the second one :P |
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reiveune |
bye |
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oleonard |
wizzyrea still around? |
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wizzyrea |
yessir |
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oleonard |
Did you figure out what you needed to know about putting an item edit link on the detail page? |
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oleonard |
Seems like a reasonable idea to me |
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wizzyrea |
well mostly I just didn't want to go to the trouble of doing it if you thought it was not a good idea. |
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wizzyrea |
but yes, I think I did. :) |
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wonders if we shouldn't go ahead and put both edit and delete links? |
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wizzyrea |
well... |
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oleonard |
welllllll... |
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wizzyrea |
I suppose you could want to delete from that page too |
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wizzyrea |
if we had the in-table editing thinger we could get rid of additem.pl altogether. |
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wizzyrea |
well, the editing and deleting portions of it anyway |
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datadoctor |
@wunderground Kent, OH |
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huginn |
datadoctor: I suck |
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datadoctor |
oops wrong code |
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datadoctor |
It's the most beautiful day here - what am I doing in a windowless office? |
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datadoctor |
...Looking at code... |
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kf |
you have a windowless office? :( |
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kf |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 16.0°C (6:00 PM CEST on May 18, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Rising). |
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* kf |
is sitting right nedt to the open window |
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datadoctor |
I do like having an office... |
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datadoctor |
@wunder Kent, OH |
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huginn |
datadoctor: The current temperature in Kent State Geography, Kent, Ohio is 23.6°C (12:03 PM EDT on May 18, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 30%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). |
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datadoctor |
Luckily I get called out to solve computer problems, so I circulate through the whole library. |
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oleonard |
http://buttersafe.com/2012/05/17/swimsuit-season/ |
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datadoctor |
Our resident artist, Lori, just painted a beautiful moonscape on the window for the Children's department, with astronauts and space creatures. |
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bag |
@wunder 93109 |
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huginn |
bag: The current temperature in K6LCM-Westside/Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 19.1°C (9:44 AM PDT on May 18, 2012). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Rising). Wind Advisory in effect until 3 am PDT Saturday... |
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oleonard |
Hi ByWaterians |
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* kf |
waves |
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wizzyrea |
datadoctor ooh! picture? |
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bag |
heh hi :P |
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* oleonard |
welcomes wizzyrea to the patch party |
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wizzyrea |
there was a patch party? |
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wizzyrea |
s/was/is |
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oleonard |
Admission: one patch. |
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wizzyrea |
:D |
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* wizzyrea |
has quite a few of those already |
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wizzyrea |
but not today, necessarily |
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wizzyrea |
guess I should send that to the list too |
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Oak |
kia ora #koha |
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Oak |
time to go home kf |
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kf |
you are right Oak :) |
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Oak |
pack up |
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Oak |
:) |
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kf |
in 2 minutes |
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kf |
waitng for this import to finish |
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Oak |
okay fine. 2 minutes. |
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Oak |
:) |
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cait |
slef: around? |
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jcamins |
kyleh: I saw your changes to the plugins code. |
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jcamins |
The unzipping looks better. |
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jcamins |
kyleh: I'm still concerned about +Exec in the plugins directory, and the fact that using plugins doesn't require *both* a configuration setting in koha-conf.xml (defaulting to off) and a syspref. |
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jcamins |
kyleh: I didn't mention this yesterday, but an additional issue from a security point of view is that there's no way to disable uploading from the client and still enable plugins. That should be possible from koha-conf.xml. |
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jcamins |
melia: well, at least you're getting feedback on the bug, even if a sign off is not yet forthcoming, right? |
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jcamins |
:) |
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melia |
yes, definitely! |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: while you're adding a floating menu, add a "clone" button. |
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jcamins |
:) |
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kyleh |
jcamins: I can add a setting in koha-conf.xml, I'm not sure what we can do about the +Exec, isn't it required for apache to be able to run the perl scripts? |
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jcamins |
kyleh: right, that's why I think the thing to do is use Module::Load::Conditional. |
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kyleh |
jcamins: I still don't grok that module, any chance you'd want to write a followup to mine ; ) |
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kyleh |
does anyone know what saved_sql.cache_expiry does? |
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jcamins |
kyleh: yes, it sets when the cached report expires. |
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jcamins |
kyleh: I'm not sure why it's not allowed to be NULL, because it definitely was allowed to be NULL in the patch I did. |
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kyleh |
it's an int(11), can't be null. In master you cannot save an sql report as it cannot be null. |
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jcamins |
kyleh: right, I mean, there's no reason it shouldn't be allowed to be NULL. |
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kyleh |
should I just patch it to allow it to be null then? |
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jcamins |
kyleh: yes. |
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kyleh |
will do! |
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jcamins |
kyleh: another option would be to set it to 0, but, as I said, that shouldn't be necessary. |
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jcamins |
I guess option C is to do both, so we can be double-sure. ;) |
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kyleh |
setting to 0 would bypass the need for a db rev, I think I'll go with that. |
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jcamins |
kyleh: good point. That's my favorite option too now that you mention it. |
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kyleh |
bug 8128 patch submitted |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8128 blocker, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , can't seem to run new sql reports |
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jcamins |
If cait doesn't have a chance, I'll sign off when I get a chance (probably not until tomorrow, alas). |
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cait |
not sure I can... accounting |
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cait |
*sigh* |
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jcamins |
Right, cait _definitely_ can't sign off. |
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jcamins |
If neither nengard nor magnuse get to it before I do, I'll sign off on it. |
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nengard_lunch |
jcamins i can sign off but it won't count |
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* wizzyrea |
might get to that right now |
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jcamins |
Even better, we can delegate to wizzyrea. :) |
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nengard |
i signed off |
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nengard |
you can sign off on mine |
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wizzyrea |
yup, assuming it passes tests, i'm done testing |
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wizzyrea |
works a treat. |
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wizzyrea |
passes *automated tests |
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sekjal |
happy weekend, everyone! |
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