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New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6703] can't see invoice content <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6703> |
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kia ora |
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hi Brooke |
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Brooke |
I pehea to ra? |
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ahua pai |
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heya chris |
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good morning ;) |
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hi debrob |
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heya Amit_Gupta |
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hello #koha |
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rangi |
hi Oak |
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Oak |
heya rangi :) |
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rangi |
ohh good to see osslabs setting up some enhancements in bugzilla |
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chilts |
is osslabs using Koha now? |
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rangi |
http://www.osslabs.biz/ <-- these guys |
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chilts |
ah, they're the guys who do some stuff for NZRS |
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chilts |
or maybe not ... anyway, that's good they're running it :) |
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eythian |
chilts: osslabs are in India |
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chilts |
heh, won't be them then :) |
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is thinking of someone else |
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good morning #koha |
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@wunder Konstanz |
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cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 19.1�C (7:44 AM CEST on August 22, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1016.8 hPa (Steady). |
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marcelr |
hello koha |
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magnuse |
hiya marcelr |
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marcelr |
hi magnuse |
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cait |
morning magnuse and marcelr :) |
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magnuse |
guten morgen cait |
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cait |
magnuse: rangi said he has perhaps a fix for the language chooser problem :) |
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magnuse |
yay |
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marcelr |
hi cait |
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eythian |
hi magnuse |
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magnuse |
kia ora eythian |
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magnuse |
eythian: i have been trying to update the man page for koha-create, should have it submitted in a day or two, i think |
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eythian |
awesome :) |
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eythian |
I need to learn how to make man pages. |
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magnuse |
me too ;-) |
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magnuse |
i found an appendix about it in a book on shell scripting |
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eythian |
sweet |
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eythian |
Which book? If it's an O'Reilly one I could buy it easily enough. |
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magnuse |
classic shell scripting |
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eythian |
who's the publisher? |
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magnuse |
http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596005955 |
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eythian |
cool. |
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magnuse |
it's more of a long example, i'd guess there are good guides/descriptions to be had on line too |
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magnuse |
and if we use the koha-create one as a pattern it should be easy to do the others, i thinl |
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eythian |
NZ$6.50 |
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eythian |
https://market.android.com/det[…]ure=search_result |
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isen071 |
Hello everybody, I've just installed koha 3.02.10.000. I have a problem with the dontmerge systempreference... When I change an authority records thre is no effect on the associated biblios records. I read that dontmerge is no longer used and has been replaced by MergeAuthoritiesOnUpdate but I can't find this option in my version... Can someone help me ? Thanks. |
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eythian |
isen071: you know that 3.4 is the current stable release series, right? It's possible (I'm not sure) that that's been fixed there. |
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magnuse |
eythian: they sell o'reilly books as a android apps? |
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cait |
3.2 is no longer maintained |
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eythian |
magnuse: yep, for a really good price, too. |
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eythian |
I think it's US$5 |
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magnuse |
yeah, that's cheap! |
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eythian |
and it's downloading to my tablet now :) |
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isen071 |
eythian: thanks you but I need my koha in french and I think the 3.4 version doesn't support french langage yet... |
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magnuse |
yay! |
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eythian |
I really like the android web installer |
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* magnuse |
havn't tried it |
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eythian |
isen071: I'd be very surprised if it doesn't support french, but give it an hour and all the french folks will be online. |
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magnuse |
isen071: there are lots of libraries using koha in french |
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eythian |
magnuse: it's really handy. You just click 'install' on the website, pick which device you want it to install onto, and it immediately starts installing. |
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cait |
bye all |
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eythian: and what sort of tablet do you use? |
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isen071 |
I'll try to install the 3.4 version. Thanks. |
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eythian |
magnuse: I got myself an Asus Transformer. It's nice because it has a detachable keyboard that gives it a huge chunk of extra battery life. |
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magnuse |
yay |
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magnuse |
transformer, eh? does it turn into a car too? ;-) |
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eythian |
and because O'Reilly is good and gives it to you as a DRM-free epub, I can transfer it to my ereader easily if I want to. |
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eythian |
alas, no. That'd be handy, but probably make it too heavy. |
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morning #koha |
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alex_a: hello |
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isen071: it looks like alex_a is the first Francophone here who may be able to answer your question. |
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magnuse |
eythian: wizzyrea was saying good things about it on G+ too - i wonder if that is a sign? i have a kindle, but i don't find that too good for reading those lovely DRM-free O'reilly books... |
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magnuse |
bonjour alex_a |
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eythian |
magnuse: I wouldn't touch a kindle with a long stick. But I have two other ereaders, so it doesn't matter :) |
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eythian |
I tried to use the tablet for reading a book on, and it's not ideal. The shiny, and backlit, screen makes it a bit problematic. But it'll be fine for looking up references. |
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alex_a |
eythian: I have recomended isen071 to come here for ask people last friday :) |
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eythian |
ah I see :) |
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alex_a |
:) |
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magnuse |
i have only bought two e-books from amazon... i wanted it because it was supposed to be a real good e-ink reader, and i wanted to see what that was like |
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magnuse |
yeah, i'm sceptical about the shiny screen... hm, where's that prefect device, i wonder? |
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eythian |
yeah, I bought a cheap one that a local bookseller was selling, aside from being a bit slow, it's a nice little machine. And I have one that's dual screen, with the other screen being an android tablet (but much less good tablet-wise than my new one) |
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eythian |
but the eink side of it is great for reading on. |
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magnuse |
ah, interesting combo! |
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eythian |
http://www.entourageedge.nl/en[…]rage-pocket-edge/ <-- it's this, but the US company has gone out of business recently. |
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eythian |
annoyingly without releasing their SDK or source code. |
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magnuse |
:-( |
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magnuse |
nice gizmo, though ;-) |
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kia ora hdl |
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hello |
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eythian |
magnuse: it is quite nice. It's small and handy. |
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eythian |
But I'll probably switch back to my Kobo now I have a real tablet, anyway. |
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eythian |
Mostly so I don't end up carrying 3 android devices around all the time, because that seems like taking it a bit too far ;) |
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eythian |
(also, the kobo is very light) |
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eythian: yeah, 3 sounds like 1 or 2 too many... |
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eythian |
well, I need my phone...:) |
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eythian |
...and my tablet |
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eythian |
...I just don't need two tablets |
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magnuse |
ok, 1 too many, then ;-) |
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francharb |
morning koha |
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rangi |
evening |
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morning rangi |
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kf |
good morning #koha |
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rangi |
hi kf |
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kf |
evening rangi :) |
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eythian |
hi |
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kf |
and hi eythian :) |
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kf |
how was monday? |
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eythian |
it's still going ;) |
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rangi |
not too bad, got quite a lot done |
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kf |
hope it will be the same here :) |
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kf |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 23.2�C (10:04 AM CEST on August 22, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 21.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016.5 hPa (Falling). |
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kf |
hm, feels a lot warmer already |
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eythian |
I'm almost done getting some code to the point where I'm OK having my name on it :) |
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kf |
:) |
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kf |
what does it do? |
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eythian |
allows users to add star ratings to biblios |
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kf |
ah |
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kf |
thought mtj was working on something like that? |
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eythian |
yep, I've taken that, upgraded it to work in 3.4, and am giving it a whole load of spit-and-polish. |
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kf |
:) |
08:12 |
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* magnuse |
is not sure he wants his koha code with spit on it... ;-) |
08:12 |
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magnuse |
anyway: yay! |
08:12 |
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eythian |
heh :) |
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kf |
hehe |
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is looking forward to the day when all clients are hosted with the packages |
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eythian |
yeah, it makes things much easier. |
08:23 |
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rangi |
package everything i say :) |
08:23 |
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eythian |
why do you want everything you say packaged? |
08:23 |
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rangi |
to make it easier to remember what i said |
08:23 |
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magnuse |
lol! |
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magnuse |
and then just give it numbers... |
08:24 |
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magnuse |
@quote get 123 |
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huginn |
magnuse: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
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rangi |
heh |
08:24 |
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magnuse |
clever scheme! |
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magnuse |
i guess the #koha logs are a start... |
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Brooke |
ata marie |
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rangi |
hi Brooke |
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magnuse |
kia ora Brooke |
08:27 |
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Brooke |
:) |
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eythian |
OK, now all that's left is to clean up the database schema. That can wait for tomorrow though. |
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Brooke |
those tricksy database schemata, always gettin' emselves in trouble |
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eythian |
ah, it's just got some unnecessary bits the way it is, and the key setup isn't optimal for what it's mostly doing. So I need to sort that out. |
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* eythian |
leaves work now |
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Brooke |
cheers mate! |
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magnuse |
leaving work at 8.40 pm? tch! |
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Brooke |
inorite? |
08:39 |
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Brooke |
I feel like it should be on the list of "You might be involved with Koha if..." |
08:39 |
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magnuse |
;-) |
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Brooke |
bonjour |
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wahanui |
niihau, Brooke |
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Oak |
hello #koha |
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Oak |
Brooke !!! |
08:52 |
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Brooke |
hey hey :) |
08:53 |
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Oak |
how are ya? |
08:53 |
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Brooke |
good enough for gummint woik |
08:53 |
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Brooke |
you? |
08:53 |
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wahanui |
rumour has it you is ketchup Oak's friend, you |
08:53 |
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Oak |
good good |
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Oak |
i'm okay |
08:53 |
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Brooke |
wahanui, you are so much dumber than Zoia, it's not even funny. |
08:53 |
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wahanui |
...but wahanui is a bot|a repository of important and useful and accurate information... |
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rangi |
zoia is a supybot the same as huginn |
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Oak |
hola senorita kf |
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kf |
hola senor Oak |
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Oak |
:) |
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Brooke |
pffft, All Blacks losin' on penalties. The nerve. |
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kf |
hi Brooke :) |
09:29 |
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Brooke |
aloha |
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kf |
sekjal++ |
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Oak |
what did he do? :) |
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magnuse |
give a good answer on the mailinglist? |
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kf |
yep |
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magnuse |
wanders off in search of nourishment |
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oakivil |
hello #koha |
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magnuse |
hiya oakivil |
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kf |
hi oakivil |
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oakivil |
importing patron data from our current system |
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lastnode |
hi |
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lastnode |
im just wondering if there isa guide for setting up koha ons hared hosting? |
11:53 |
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lastnode |
i really want to demo it for someone but i dont have access to a vps |
11:53 |
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oakivil |
but now thinking about importing items |
11:53 |
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kf |
oakivil: into koha? yay! |
11:53 |
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oakivil |
i just imported biblios |
11:53 |
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oakivil |
well 2 weeks ago |
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oakivil |
now importing patrons using patron_import perl script |
11:54 |
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oakivil |
but it seems that items need to be injected directly into the database in koha 3.4+ ? |
11:54 |
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kf |
si this the one used for the gui too? |
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kf |
for 3.2 the best way was importing them with the bibliographic records I think |
11:55 |
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oakivil |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_fields_%289xx%29 |
11:55 |
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kf |
in 952 fields formatted the way koha wants it |
11:55 |
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oakivil |
says inject into items-table |
11:55 |
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kf |
for 3.4 you can still do that |
11:55 |
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kf |
but I wonder if you can now inject directly into the items table too |
11:55 |
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oakivil |
ok |
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oakivil |
i think i go with the bulkmarcimport.pl |
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kf |
I have not tried it yet but I think it should work |
11:56 |
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kf |
you have to be careful with you biblionumbers |
11:56 |
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oakivil |
because i already have a program that works well with text files |
11:56 |
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oakivil |
yeah |
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kf |
ah ok |
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kf |
if you import items using 952 make sure you have the important fields correctly |
11:56 |
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kf |
$a AND $b should have the branchcode of your library |
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oakivil |
ok |
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kf |
call number and barcode ($o and $p) are also good |
11:57 |
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oakivil |
the wiki has pretty good instructions |
11:57 |
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kf |
cool :) |
11:57 |
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oakivil |
i think i can do it with those |
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kf |
yes, the page looks pretty good |
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oakivil |
what is "Koha full call number" as in items.itemcallnumber-column |
11:58 |
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kf |
was not aware we had it :) |
11:58 |
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oakivil |
? |
11:58 |
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kf |
the normal call number |
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kf |
of the item |
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oakivil |
and what is that? |
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wahanui |
that is the problem |
11:59 |
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kf |
the label on the book that indicates where the item can be found on shelf :) |
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oakivil |
shelving number? |
11:59 |
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kf |
the german word is signatur... not sure that helps here |
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kf |
if you are using numbers (numerus currens?) in your library, you can use that |
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magnuse |
hyllesignatur in norwegian |
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oakivil |
ok |
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kf |
it's what the patron uses to locate the book in the library |
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oakivil |
ok |
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oakivil |
got it |
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magnuse |
oakivil: are you importing data for a migration or just for testing? |
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oakivil |
testing |
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oakivil |
and to prove that it can be done |
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magnuse |
yay! :-) |
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oakivil |
bosses are skeptical about the whole migration issue |
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oakivil |
so I try to prove them wrong |
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magnuse |
way to go! |
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magnuse |
thousands of libraries have been able to do it before |
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oakivil |
yeah |
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oakivil |
but it's hard |
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magnuse |
so why shouldn't you? :-) |
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oakivil |
finding the relevant information and connecting the right bits in the right places |
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kf |
I think it's hard with every system |
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kf |
migrations I mean - never fun, but doable :) |
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oakivil |
if somebody would just tel me what to do it would be so easy :D |
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oakivil |
if i knew the right questions |
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oakivil |
but im getting there |
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kf |
what is your current system? |
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oakivil |
Koha is on Ubuntu 11.04 |
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kf |
there is a collection of perl scripts for migration purposes in druthb' repository |
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oakivil |
Koha 3.4 |
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kf |
ah, the current ILS your library uses |
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oakivil |
ah current system is PallasPro |
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oakivil |
it is a tailor made Finnish program |
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oakivil |
and no finn has tread where I tread now |
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kf |
http://gitorious.org/koha-toolbox |
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oakivil |
or maybe a couple has |
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magnuse |
a few finnish people have looked at koha, but i have not heard of any migrations |
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magnuse |
oakivil: you can always ask about anything on irc and the mail lists - a together i think most problems have been solved by at least one of us some time or other... ;-) |
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oleonard |
Hey #koha. |
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nengard |
morning oleonard |
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nengard |
@later tell chris_n sorry i missed your message from 2 days ago, was on the road all week, but it looks like someone else got that patch signed off on |
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huginn |
nengard: The operation succeeded. |
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oleonard |
Someone else wanted that gold. |
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lastnode |
does anyone know the liblime pricing? |
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lastnode |
just a ballpark? |
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lastnode |
(forkoha hosting) |
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oleonard |
We don't do Liblime here. |
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oleonard |
Liblime is not Koha. |
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lastnode |
i understand that |
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lastnode |
im not requesting support |
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lastnode |
im just weighing the pros and cons of self hosting vs hosted |
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lastnode |
if it's a problem, i wont discuss liblime, my bad |
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kf |
lastnode: liblime doesn't host koha too - so it's not so interesitng |
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kf |
most support providers do hosting |
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lastnode |
i meant support, kf |
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lastnode |
(as well) |
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lastnode |
im looking into vps options and want to weigh hosting vs hosting + support |
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kf |
hm, perhaps writing mails and asking directly is the best way to go then |
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kf |
you are in california, right? |
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lastnode |
no, colombo, sri lanka |
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lastnode |
im looking to roll out koha for a small pilot school here |
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lastnode |
witha library of 3k books or so |
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lastnode |
I'm nervous because that is a lot of data to be responsible for |
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kf |
oh! |
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kf |
sorry |
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lastnode |
adn im a hobbyist hacker (English teacher by trade) |
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kf |
confused you with someone else |
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lastnode |
np |
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kf |
have you seen the support providers list on koha-community.org? |
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lastnode |
no, let me have a look |
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lastnode |
found it, thanks |
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lastnode |
gotta head home, will be back later |
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lastnode |
thanks! |
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* Oak |
waves again |
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magnuse |
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Oak |
Bonjour Mademoiselle kf |
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kf |
Bonjour Oak |
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Oak |
:] |
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magnuse |
Oak |
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Oak |
funny http://xkcd.com/771/ |
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Oak |
@later tell Brooke http://xkcd.com/174/ |
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huginn |
Oak: The operation succeeded. |
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Oak |
uh oh not that one |
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Oak |
@later tell Brooke http://xkcd.com/771/ |
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huginn |
Oak: The operation succeeded. |
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oleonard |
Hi libsysguy |
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libsysguy |
hi oleonard |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6753] Markup corrections and improvements for label export window <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6753> |
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oleonard |
Bam! |
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kf |
bam? :) |
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oleonard |
Yeah I was just, you know... uh, saying 'bam.' |
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libsysguy |
SWOOSH! |
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kf |
lol |
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kf |
why do I suddenly think batman? |
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* magnuse |
too! |
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kf |
:) |
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oleonard |
If we're talking about Batman then I clocked that bug in the face but good. Pow! |
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kf |
rofl |
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@wunder Konstanz |
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kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 30.8�C (3:14 PM CEST on August 22, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Steady). |
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kf |
hmpf |
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oleonard |
Still got some summer left eh kf? |
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magnuse |
wow |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 14.0�C (2:50 PM CEST on August 22, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). |
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kf |
it just came back |
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kf |
had lots of rain this year |
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kf |
but this is too warm for me already |
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@wunder islamabad |
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Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 35.0�C (6:00 PM PKT on August 22, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 23.0�C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Rising). |
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sekjal |
can anyone else confirm that, despite removing the 952s from the MARC records, biblios with many, many items are still giving problems to Zebra when searching? |
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kf |
sekjal: perhaps ask liz? |
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wizzyrea |
how many |
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kf |
our libraries are too small - have not run into any problems yet |
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wizzyrea |
define "many" :) |
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sekjal |
wizzyrea: usually around 700 items I find things start to choke |
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oleonard |
Whoa, 700 items? |
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wizzyrea |
i'm not sure we have any with that many items |
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* oleonard |
is a small fry |
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nengard |
i think the 700 happens with serials |
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nengard |
in academics where they keep them forever |
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nengard |
and circualte them |
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sekjal |
it's usually bound serials issues on the Most Important periodicals |
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kf |
sekjal: have yo seen the bug on bugzilla? |
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kf |
it suggests using -x for indexing I think |
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sekjal |
kf: yes, though I forget the number at the moment |
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sekjal |
and -x doesn't solve the problem, I'm finding |
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kf |
searching for ti... but hard |
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sekjal |
the record gets exported to Zebra, and as much of it as will fit in the 9999 bytes gets indexed, according to my direct searches in yaz-client |
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sekjal |
so it'll show up in search results |
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sekjal |
but the link to the details page is broken, because it always dies before getting to the 999 |
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sekjal |
sorry, MARC subfield 999$c, to be more specific |
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sekjal |
the 952s are added in using insert_fields_ordered |
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kf |
bug 5579 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5579 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , Remove items from biblioitems.marcxml |
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magnuse |
#marcmustdie |
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kf |
bug 2453 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2453 critical, P3, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED FIXED, (very) large biblio/item handling |
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sekjal |
I think if we changed that to append_fields, we'd make sure the biblionumber gets in there, and the only remaining issue would be that all the items are not properly summarized on the search results page |
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sekjal |
reading that last comment, it's me saying that this is solved... ::chuckle:: |
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kf |
hehe |
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kf |
murph |
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y |
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kf |
oleonard++ :) |
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oakivil |
So has anybody tried Fibram Fivefingers already? |
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oakivil |
sorry, Vibram Fivefingers |
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* oleonard |
knows people who love them, hasn't tried them himself. |
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oakivil |
I remeber hearing some stuff about a koha-con |
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oakivil |
will it be held? |
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magnuse |
oakivil: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ategory:KohaCon11 |
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oleonard |
http://kohacon11.vpmthane.org/ocs/index.php/k/k11 |
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oakivil |
thanks |
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magnuse |
planning is still going on, but there are lots of people signed up so it will happen! |
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oakivil |
damn it's so expensive to fly there |
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magnuse |
we have not yet decided where kohacon12 will be: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]als_for_KohaCon12 |
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jcamins |
Good morning, #koha. |
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oleonard |
Hi jcamins |
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isen514 |
Hello everybody, I need help to get my koha works. Everything seems to be OK but when I try to book an item, I get the message : "No book available..."... Do you have an idea ? |
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oakivil |
Are you using Zebra indexer? |
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jcamins |
isen514: you need to have circulation rules and holds configured. |
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isen514 |
yes |
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jcamins |
oleonard: hello. |
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hdl |
try setting up your circulation and holds configuration files. |
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isen514 |
I've tried to configure my circulation rules : authorised everyone (for testing)... |
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nengard |
bug 6764 - i didn't even know there was a shelving location search option ... |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6764 critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , shelving location code search wrong |
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oleonard |
there is? Bug 4329 is 'Failed QA' |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4329 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , OPAC search by shelving location option |
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oleonard |
Oh, it's one of the choices under Keyword, etc. |
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oleonard |
That's less usable than providing a list of existing values to choose from. |
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kf |
hi jcamins |
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kf |
oleonard: checkboxes or a list twhere you can select multiple values would be cool too :) |
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oleonard |
Bug 5980 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5980 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , OPAC : Adding location to search indexes in search pages |
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sekjal |
kf/oleonard: I'm working on a reimplemented fix for 4329 that will let you have multiple search params (item type, collection code AND/OR location) |
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sekjal |
brb |
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kf |
sekjal: nice! |
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jcamins |
Hi, kf. :) |
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nengard |
oleonard, yeah i knew about the one that failed qa - but didn't know about this one - which should have failed qa since it doesn't work and requires you enter a location code which patrons don't know |
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wizzyrea |
jcamins: I made the ricotta gnocchi |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: how was it? kf said she was a little disappointed. |
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wizzyrea |
well I put mine with a tomato sauce |
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wizzyrea |
by themselves they're just gnocchi |
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wizzyrea |
surprisingly unsurprising |
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wizzyrea |
but, I would definitely make them again, because plopping ricotta in a bowl is a lot easier than mashing potatoes |
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jcamins |
:) |
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druthb |
hi, wizzyrea! :D |
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wizzyrea |
(and if you put them with a tasty sauce, they're quite delish) |
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wizzyrea |
hi thar |
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wizzyrea |
(and I can't help but think they might be less of a gut bomb than potato gnocchi, as ricotta is almost pure protein) |
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* oleonard |
loves gnocchi and should try making them again |
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wizzyrea |
you should :) |
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* nengard |
loves gnocchi but never made any |
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wizzyrea |
jcamins' sweet potato gnocchi were super yummy too, but a lot more work |
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wizzyrea |
nengard/oleonard you want the ricotta gnocchi recipe? |
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* oleonard |
also loves dumplings, so I guess I'm a fan of gut bombs |
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oleonard |
wizzyrea: Yes |
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wizzyrea |
http://budgetbytes.blogspot.co[…]8-recipe-065.html |
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wizzyrea |
i might make more and freeze them |
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jcamins |
Mmm, I'll have to try them. |
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jcamins |
The sweet potato gnocchi aren't really that hard, either, just time consuming (for the lactose intolerant). |
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wizzyrea |
^^ |
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wizzyrea |
http://www.epicurious.com/reci[…]r-and-Sage-233379 |
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wizzyrea |
lol, never mind, that one has ricotta in it too. |
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wizzyrea |
here we go, this is the right one |
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wizzyrea |
http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/s[…]occhi/detail.aspx |
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oleonard |
How do you serve them? |
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jcamins |
oleonard: with a sage butter sauce. |
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wizzyrea |
I did it with a caper/wine sauce |
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* oleonard |
checks his watch for proximity to lunchtime |
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jcamins |
That would probably be good too, but the sage butter sauce is so amazing that we never feel the desire to try something else. |
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jcamins |
http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/g[…]sauce/detail.aspx |
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jcamins |
Only replace the packaged gnocchi with super-delicious home-made sweet potato gnocchi. :) |
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wizzyrea |
or ricotta gnocchi, if you're pressed for time :) |
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nengard |
wizzyrea, sure send it along |
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nengard |
oh there it is :) |
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wizzyrea |
seriously though I was impressed at how fast the ricotta gnocchi came together. |
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wizzyrea |
I could easliy make that after work for a 6:30 dinnertime |
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* oleonard |
whines "But I'm hungry noooowww!" |
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* wizzyrea |
sends oleonard to his room |
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wizzyrea |
(after procuring him a graham cracker) |
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oleonard |
Mmmmm... graham cracker. Are graham cracker's unique to USA? |
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wizzyrea |
hmm. good question |
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wizzyrea |
certainly there are other types of "digestive biscuits" in other countries |
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kf |
digestive biscuits? |
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wizzyrea |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digestive_biscuit |
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sekjal |
zebrasrv has an implicit max file size of 1024 KB |
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sekjal |
unless it's started with the -k switch to indicate some other value |
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oleonard |
Only instead of helping digestion, they help curb lust. |
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jcamins |
Biscuitgate? |
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jcamins |
Really? |
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oleonard |
http://www.straightdope.com/co[…]ead-fever-of-lust |
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wizzyrea |
lol yea |
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jcamins |
oleonard: I was responding to the fact that there was a controversy over what kind of biscuit Gordon Brown preferred. |
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oleonard |
Would that our political scandals were as lame. |
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jcamins |
True. |
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slef |
I think we know of graham crackers are mainly because of US TV. Not sure if they're widely available here. |
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oleonard |
You can make a good peanut butter and Nutella sandwich with a graham cracker. |
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slef |
Do you monitor your load averages and if so, at what values do your alarms trigger? |
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libsysguy |
If I wanted to send out a notice everyday for a certain item type...could I do that? |
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reiveune1 |
bye |
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nengard |
libsysguy anything is possible |
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nengard |
:) |
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slef |
libsysguy: probably but you'll probably need to talk to the API :) |
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libsysguy |
right...but email notices seem to be quite a mess |
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libsysguy |
with the hardcoded values for delays in the db |
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nengard |
hehe |
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libsysguy |
instead of more of a frequency |
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* libsysguy |
might cry |
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slef |
that's not how they're a mess. You might not want to look too much more closely if that's already brought you to tears :) |
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slef |
doesn't frequency = 1/delay anyway? |
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libsysguy |
something like that |
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wahanui |
something like that is sticking in nengard's mind |
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libsysguy |
is there a ticket to rework notices? |
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oleonard |
Are you volunteering libsysguy? :P |
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libsysguy |
maybe |
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slef |
@query notices enhancement |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1785 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Notices are changable globally not per branch + overdue rules |
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libsysguy |
is the current exchange of currency Karma |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3941 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Combine Notices & Messaging Tabs |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5539 enhancement, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW , Options for Suggestion Emails |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4398 enhancement, P5, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Example notice for 'claims notice' in Serials |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3490 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jwagner, ASSIGNED , Billing Notice/Debt Collect |
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oleonard |
May that trick be used only for good. |
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libsysguy |
^^ |
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nengard |
That is so cool :) |
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nengard |
scared to try it though |
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slef |
huginn refuses to return more than 5 matches so we need to clean up bz to make it more useful |
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huginn |
slef: I suck |
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slef |
huginn: yes, you do |
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huginn |
slef: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
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slef |
@query --total notices enhancement |
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huginn |
slef: 7 results for "notices enhancement." |
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slef |
@query --total notices |
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huginn |
slef: 75 results for "notices." |
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oleonard |
Judging by huginn's self-esteem he will be the template for Marvin's AI. |
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slef |
bbl |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 4419] Cannot change module for notice templates <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4419> |
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oleonard |
Bam! |
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kf |
libsysguy: which hardcoded delay values? |
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kf |
libsysguy: tools > notice triggers and starting overdue_notices with -t |
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kf |
hm |
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kf |
is he already goneß |
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kf |
? |
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kf |
time to go here too... still too warm to think |
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kf |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 31.1�C (5:33 PM CEST on August 22, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013.4 hPa (Steady). |
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@wunder 19030 |
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huginn |
nengard: The current temperature in Maple Point, Langhorne, Pennsylvania is 23.0�C (11:30 AM EDT on August 22, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011.1 hPa (Steady). |
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druthb |
@wunder greenfield, in |
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nengard |
wow - no rain |
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huginn |
druthb: The current temperature in Greenfield, Indiana is 24.1�C (11:35 AM EDT on August 22, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015.5 hPa (Rising). |
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nengard |
first time in nearly 2 weeks |
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jcamins |
@wunder 11375 |
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huginn |
jcamins: The current temperature in Middle Village, Queens, New York is 24.7�C (11:31 AM EDT on August 22, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.85 in 1010.7 hPa (Steady). |
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sekjal |
okay, I'm making some progress against the too-many-items issue |
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sekjal |
adding the 952s at the end helps, but isn't sufficient |
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sekjal |
the problem shifts to fix_biblio_id |
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sekjal |
a subroutine decorated with lots of FIXME's |
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libsysguy |
oh those are most excellent |
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libsysguy |
I found quite a few of those in Auth_with_ldap.pm |
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sekjal |
yeah, that module needs an overhaul |
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libsysguy |
Yeah I put in some work on it...but it was more tailored to our campus so I didn't want to commit it |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 2534] Viewing items table on item edit screen requires horizontal scrolling <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2534> |
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hdl |
sekjal: ... looks like we did the same on circulation. |
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hdl |
quite recently |
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hdl |
using datatables.net |
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hdl |
erm no. |
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hdl |
sekjal: about fix_biblio_ids, it is a problem we also had. We are using insert_fields_ordered rather than append_field |
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hdl |
But insert_field_before for marc21 should be more adapted. |
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sekjal |
hdl: I've mapped out the code, starting in the get_corrected_marc_record subroutine in rebuild_zebra.pl |
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wizzyrea |
hi melia |
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sekjal |
it's not a pretty sequence |
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hdl |
and we also had to limit the number of items inserted at indexing time ? |
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hdl |
and we also had to limit the number of items inserted at indexing time. |
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hdl |
where is the code ? |
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wahanui |
the code is kept at git.koha-community.org |
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hdl |
where is sekjal's code ? |
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sekjal |
hdl: rebuild_zebra.pl, around lines 429 to 490 |
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sekjal |
then in C4/Biblio.pm, 1057 to 1080 |
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hdl |
Is it on a git repository ? |
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sekjal |
hdl: I haven't written any patches against this yet; I'm just reading what's currently in Koha |
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sekjal |
trying to figure out what it's currently doing |
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sekjal |
so I can best optimize the changes |
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sekjal |
so, get_corrected_marc_record calls get_raw_marc_record, which calls GetMarcBiblio (without the embed param and only if you're using -x) |
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sekjal |
once it gets the record, it get_raw_marc_record does the EmbedItems...() subroutine |
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sekjal |
then returns the record to get_corrected_marc_record, which tries to fix_biblio_id |
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sekjal |
the updated 999 field is added in order, after all the 952s, which means it gets lost if the 952s put the record over filesize limit |
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sekjal |
what needs to happen is the fix_biblio_ids check needs to be done in GetMarcBiblio, before the Embed command |
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sekjal |
then Embed needs to be modified to append, rather than insert_ordered |
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sekjal |
we could also eliminate get_raw_marc_records call to Embed by passing the embed param to GetMarcBiblio |
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sekjal |
simplify things a little |
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sekjal |
now, the 999 field should ALWAYS be in the marcxml , right? but in case it's not, shouldn't any call to GetMarcBiblio check and insert it if it's missing? |
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hdl |
as far as i know, what you say was my first version of code. |
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hdl |
if gmcharlt did otherwise, he surely had good reasons. |
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hdl |
mmm what you say makes sense. |
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Oak |
♥ #kohart |
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Oak |
tch tch |
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Oak |
ruined it |
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Oak |
will try again |
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Oak |
♥ #koha |
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Oak |
Guten Abend cait |
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sekjal |
EmbedItemsInMarcBiblio is only called (outside of C4::Biblio) in three places: tools/export.pl, rebuild_zebra.pl, and catalouging/additem.pl |
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cait |
hi Oak |
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sekjal |
I think the first two of those could easily be eliminated in favour of passing the 'embed' param to GetMarcBiblio |
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sekjal |
brb; going to make some lunch |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: around? |
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wizzyrea |
sup |
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jcamins |
What caching plugin do you use with WordPress? |
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wizzyrea |
wp Super Cache |
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jcamins |
Thanks. |
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wizzyrea |
np :) |
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hdl |
god evening |
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cait |
hi hdl |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 2891] Cannot manually enter dates in some report forms <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2891> |
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chris_n |
any recommendations on a HTML to text parser? |
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cait |
hm? |
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* chris_n |
tempts cait with a double fudge brownie |
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cait |
oh |
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cait |
how mean |
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cait |
why? |
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* cait |
likes brownies |
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chris_n |
well, in exchange for information on an html to text parser, of course ;-) |
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cait |
oh |
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cait |
so no brownie for me |
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cait |
I wondered what it would do |
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chris_n |
you may have one anyway |
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chris_n |
for being so helpful in general |
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cait |
oh, that's nice :) |
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* chris_n |
sets the whole dish out for #koha |
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jcamins |
chris_n: there must be a dehtml script. |
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jcamins |
chris_n: http://www.moria.de/~michael/dehtml/ |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 26.9�C (7:43 PM CEST on August 22, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Steady). |
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oleonard |
I'm gone two hours and all I miss is brownies? Slow Monday. |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
true |
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rangi |
morning |
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oleonard |
Hi rangi |
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oleonard |
Now that rangi is here we can be done with this slow Monday and start on Tuesday. |
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rangi |
Hehe |
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rangi |
http://coderwall.com/ranginui |
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wizzyrea |
lol wow |
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rangi |
silly but fun |
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cait |
morning rangi |
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rangi |
hi cait |
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oleonard |
rangi: You left something out: http://screencast.com/t/wYdrQulXj |
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cait |
rofl |
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cait |
rangi? |
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wahanui |
I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS! |
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rangi |
Hehe |
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wizzyrea |
ok that made me laugh |
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* wizzyrea |
nominates oleonard as designer of the Koha badges. |
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wizzyrea |
we could have the first gamified OPAC |
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rangi |
henry bankshead had that idea |
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rangi |
karma for patrons |
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wahanui |
patrons has neutral karma |
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rangi |
we should do it, it would rule! |
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cait |
hehe |
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cait |
koha badges sounds nice too |
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rangi |
yep u get badges to reflect how u earnt karma |
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rangi |
100 issues without an overdue |
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rangi |
etc |
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wizzyrea |
x number of "classic" authors read |
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wizzyrea |
library achievements |
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rangi |
would be all kinda fun |
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wizzyrea |
oh oh, read x british authors, get the "god save the queen" badge |
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rangi |
Hehe |
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rangi |
yep |
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wizzyrea |
the data you need to quantify that kind of thing should be in marc, right? |
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rangi |
read rand, get mini world destroyer badge |
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wizzyrea |
^^ LOL |
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rangi |
yup |
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cait |
hehe |
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cait |
endless possibilities |
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rangi |
would be very cool for publics and schools |
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rangi |
ok my stop bbiab |
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wizzyrea |
oh yea, that would be awesome |
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oleonard |
I could check out the complete works of Dickens and return them the next day unread. |
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oleonard |
...not that my director would mind the stats on that kind of gaming. |
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wizzyrea |
just like you can game foursquare :P |
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rangi |
ud been in the lib twice |
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rangi |
for that |
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cait |
hm |
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rangi |
its all good |
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rangi |
brb |
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wizzyrea |
yea, I mean, you get people coming in just to get library badges |
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wizzyrea |
that's... that's epic marketing. |
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wizzyrea |
i mean really. |
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wizzyrea |
this must happen. |
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slef |
wizzyrea: errr, having British republicans count towards a "god save the queen" badge may be a bit odd. How about "keep calm and carry on"? |
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wizzyrea |
I like that too! |
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slef |
(ok, it has a crown on it, but it's still cool ;-) ) |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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wizzyrea |
yours is better actually |
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slef |
God save the Queen... because no-one else will! |
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* slef |
wanders off to sharpen the pike ^W^W^W cook dinner |
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cait |
^W^W? |
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wizzyrea |
haha |
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wizzyrea |
http://maniacdev.com/2011/05/o[…]-popup-generator/ |
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slef |
cait: delete-word |
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* cait |
was thinking about a callnumber blinking and the first to get the book gets a badge... |
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wizzyrea |
hee |
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slef |
cait: try it in a bash prompt some time. |
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wizzyrea |
"book of the day" |
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cait |
slef: is something going to explode? |
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wizzyrea |
or "section of the day" |
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cait |
wizzyrea: but could perhaps lead to not so pretty results... |
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slef |
cait: not as long as you have a word on the command line to feed it |
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slef |
cait: and that's control-W not a ^ and a W |
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wizzyrea |
well, that's why I thought maybe "section" instead of "specific item" |
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cait |
trying |
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cait |
but perhaps I am too tired |
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slef |
do German keyboards still label ctrl as strg or something? |
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cait |
yep |
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slef |
cool |
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cait |
strg = steuerung I think |
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cait |
or whatever |
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cait |
my word vanishes? |
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cait |
oh |
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slef |
right... I'm going to steuerung some dinner. |
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cait |
it deleted the last word from the line? |
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slef |
yes |
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slef |
you can bring it back with ^Y |
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slef |
(paste/yank) |
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slef |
don't confuse delete-word (^W) with control-alt-delete-W which is delete-world |
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rangi |
back |
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* cait |
make snotes ;) |
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cait |
wb rangi |
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cait |
I am tepted to try it |
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cait |
hi magnuse |
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magnuse |
kia ora cait & #koha |
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wizzyrea |
ok... so now i'm curious about achievement systems, check this out: http://www.reedolsen.com/how-t[…]for-iphone-games/ (ignore the fact that it's for iphone games, the theory remains) |
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wizzyrea |
think about how much we already track |
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* magnuse |
is looking forward to reading http://oreilly.com/catalog/0636920014614 |
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wizzyrea |
OOo! |
20:12 |
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wizzyrea |
good one |
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wizzyrea |
(seriously, no other ILS does this, right?) |
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magnuse |
not that i have heard of! |
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rangi |
nope itd be a first i think |
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magnuse |
and how hard can it be? ;-) |
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wizzyrea |
HA |
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wizzyrea |
it's just a database, right? |
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magnuse |
with crazy rules... |
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* wizzyrea |
cackles evilly |
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magnuse |
and... |
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cait |
hehe |
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magnuse |
@quote get 123 |
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huginn |
magnuse: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
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cait |
enh bug? :) |
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oleonard |
That usually works. |
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wizzyrea |
RFC, lol. |
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magnuse |
in norway we say that good preparations is half the work, so... |
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magnuse |
well, a wiki page for doodling won't hurt |
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rangi |
id do enh bug, and a proof of concept and let the rfc grow from there |
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rangi |
overspeccing is the death of innovation :) |
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wizzyrea |
yes to all of that |
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cait |
:) |
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* magnuse |
wasn't thinking of a spec, more a place to share ideas... |
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wizzyrea |
I've started one |
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magnuse |
yay! |
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wizzyrea |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Gamifying_the_ILS |
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wizzyrea |
it's messy |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 2539] kohaspsuggest is deprecated, notes outmoded <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2539> |
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bencahill |
is there anything complicated in transferring a koha install? I just tried, but I'm missing something... |
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bencahill |
db dump/import, copied /etc/koha, configured apache, and setup zebrasrv's daemon |
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bencahill |
started everything, and staring at a dir listing... |
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* magnuse |
puts a big bowl of freshly made wild-raspberry-ice-cream in the middle of #koha and wanders off to eat the rest of it... |
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cait |
oooh |
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wizzyrea |
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bencahill |
nvm, koha-httpd.conf was marked as executable, and apache probably didn't like that...all good now! :-D |
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wizzyrea |
yay! |
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bencahill |
my fault for transferring data using a samba share |
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bencahill |
but nonetheless, quite an easy transition! |
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bencahill |
am I supposed to have a /var/lock/koha dir? |
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bencahill |
I remember setting ownership to koha:koha on /var/lock/koha/zebradb/ , but I don't have such a dir here? |
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wizzyrea |
magnuse: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Gamifying_the_ILS |
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sekjal |
nice! |
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sekjal |
I should pass that to hankbank; he was talking about a Karma system earlier, and that could dovetail right in |
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cait |
bencahill: did you transfer a dev install? |
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cait |
hm etc/koha looks like a standard install, so you might be missing files form other directories I think |
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bencahill |
cait: no |
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bencahill |
cait: yeah, I didn't copy the /var/lib/koha or /var/lock/koha dirs... |
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rangi |
release day today eh? |
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rangi |
coffee time, bbiab |
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cait |
mmh coffee |
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rangi |
back |
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cait |
hmm |
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cait |
What's the problem here? |
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cait |
<option value="[% frameworkcodeloo.value %]" [% frameworkcodeloo.selected %]> |
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cait |
[% frameworkcodeloo.frameworktext %] |
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cait |
</option> |
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cait |
class="hilighted"? |
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rangi |
? |
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cait |
the script tells me I have to fix something in the option thing |
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cait |
but I don't see a directive there |
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cait |
and the other is only something I wondered, the class is named highlighted in other places |
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cait |
ok, will ignore it for now |
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libsysguy |
so I wrote a script to parse a CSV of subscriptions and insert them into the db but when i click the titles I don't get an option to edit them individually |
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libsysguy |
did I forget to insert something somewhere? |
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cait |
what do youmean you don't get an option to edit? |
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libsysguy |
if I click a title typically there is an option to edit the subscription right next to the button to add a new subscription |
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libsysguy |
but there is also no information in the subscription when you click into it |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
have you tried adding a subscription manually and compare? |
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libsysguy |
so maybe i need to poke some data somewhere else in the DB |
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libsysguy |
yes. I got all the fields correct in the subscription table |
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cait |
which tables have you filled with data? |
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libsysguy |
but i didn't insert into the subscriptionhistory table |
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libsysguy |
just subscription |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
perhaps you also need serials and serialitems |
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cait |
a first predicted volume maybe? |
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libsysguy |
perhaps |
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libsysguy |
i bet that is it |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 24.0�C (12:00 AM CEST on August 23, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 21.0�C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1015 hPa (Rising). |
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rangi |
@wunder wellington nz |
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rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0�C (10:00 AM NZST on August 23, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.57 in 1035 hPa (Rising). |
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cait |
too warm :( |
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eythian |
https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=55439 <-- friends don't let friends do PHP |
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rangi |
heh |
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chilts |
that's a good'un |
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mtj |
sheesh, no build-bot for the php releases... :/ |
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mtj |
and.. cheers chris! :) |
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eythian |
https://github.com/codedance/Retaliation <-- related |
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chilts |
lol |
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eythian |
mtj: almost done with making the stars rating stuff work on 3.4 and generally touching it up. |
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cait |
morning eythian |
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eythian |
hi cait |
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mtj |
me? or you? |
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eythian |
mtj: me :) |
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mtj |
eep, me too! |
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eythian |
haha |
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eythian |
that's why I said I was doing it on bug 5668 :) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5668 enhancement, P5, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , Star ratings in the opac |
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mtj |
http://git.kohaaloha.com/?p=he[…]da29320244ed0a7a6 |
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cait |
you should work on your communication |
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cait |
;) |
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mtj |
yeah, good call - i was too busy to update the bug :/ |
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mtj |
yeah, it happens some times... |
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eythian |
http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]5668-star-ratings <-- mine's here |
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mtj |
looks nice |
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mtj |
i ended up doing some 'display enhancments', so mines a little diff in functionallity.. |
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mtj |
and some db performance tweaks, etc |
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mtj |
mines 99% done, with unit tests and pod |
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mtj |
. |
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mtj |
but thanks for taking a wack at it, for me! |
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* cait |
hands out cookies and goes to bed |
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mtj |
fyi, i updated the bug... including a deserved apology |
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eythian |
heh :) |
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eythian |
I'm going to push this one up in the next hour or so because I need to get it in for a couple of clients, but we can probably put your stuff on top as patches afterwards without too much difficulty. |