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glernil |
good day! |
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glernil |
how can i update 3.2 to 3.4 using the debian package |
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glernil |
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rangi |
hi cait |
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cait |
evening rangi :) |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 21.8�C (9:35 AM CEST on August 20, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1019.9 hPa (Steady). |
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cait |
going to be warm today |
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rangi |
was quite nice here too |
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rangi |
@wunder wellington nz |
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rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 7.0�C (7:00 PM NZST on August 20, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 6.0�C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady). |
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cait |
I think i am the only person around to miss the rain :) |
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cait |
as always hehe |
| 07:47 |
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* cait |
is trying to figure out flipflops |
| 07:51 |
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Oak |
Guten Morgen cait |
| 07:51 |
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Oak |
hello #koha |
| 07:52 |
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cait |
Salaam Oak |
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Oak |
:] |
| 08:12 |
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cait |
:) |
| 08:12 |
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cait |
rangi: do you know how the patron anymization should work? |
| 08:13 |
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cait |
rangi: I thought it would replace the borrowernumber in old_issues with null or sometihng, but this doesn't seem to work right now |
| 08:13 |
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cait |
it reported no errors but old_issues was the same before and after |
| 08:13 |
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rangi |
no idea, i have never used it |
| 08:19 |
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cait |
h |
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cait |
m |
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cait |
I think some recent changes might have broken it |
| 08:19 |
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cait |
because we don't allow borrowernumber to be null now |
| 08:20 |
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cait |
ruth wrote a script to run the anonymization from command line that I tested and it gave me an sql error |
| 08:20 |
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cait |
bad thing is koha says it's successful, while nothing changes apparently |
| 08:22 |
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rangi |
borrownernumber can be null in old_issues |
| 08:23 |
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rangi |
not issues |
| 08:23 |
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cait |
ok |
| 08:23 |
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cait |
I will do more testing |
| 08:26 |
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rangi |
# The default of 0 does not work due to foreign key constraints |
| 08:26 |
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rangi |
# The anonymisation will fail quietly if AnonymousPatron is not a valid entry |
| 08:26 |
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rangi |
i wonder if thats doing it |
| 08:27 |
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cait |
http://paste.koha-community.org/13 |
| 08:27 |
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cait |
oh |
| 08:27 |
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cait |
yep probably |
| 08:27 |
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cait |
only there is no mention anywhere that you have to set up an anonymous patron |
| 08:27 |
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rangi |
yeah |
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cait |
i will try it |
| 08:27 |
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rangi |
its a syspref |
| 08:28 |
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rangi |
my $anonymouspatron = (C4::Context->preference('AnonymousPatron')) |
| 08:28 |
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rangi |
so it doesnt try to null it, it tries to set it to the anonymous patron, which is better |
| 08:29 |
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rangi |
but yes, it should say what its doing |
| 08:29 |
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cait |
so the bug is: make it check for the anon patron and tell you if you don't have one |
| 08:29 |
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rangi |
yep |
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cait |
instead of reporting success |
| 08:29 |
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cait |
which is really bad |
| 08:29 |
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cait |
retrying it now with anon patron :) thx for your help! |
| 08:29 |
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cait |
rangi++ |
| 08:30 |
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cait |
yes, now it works :) |
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rangi |
:) |
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cait |
reporting bug |
| 08:33 |
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rangi |
its in the code in a couple of places, and noted with a comment |
| 08:38 |
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cait |
yes, but this doesn't help the normal user :) |
| 08:40 |
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cait |
and it's not in the online help file |
| 08:40 |
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cait |
bug 6756 |
| 08:40 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6756 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Patron anonymizing tool reports false success |
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cait |
rebooting |
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cait |
guten morgen adnc |
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adnc |
guten morgen cait |
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adnc |
wie geht es dir? |
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cait |
ganz gut und dir? |
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adnc |
recht viel zutun, sonst läufts ganz ok. |
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adnc |
koha läuft so wie ich es will, aber komme kaum dazu mehr zu machen ;) |
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cait |
aber immerhin :) |
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cait |
hi druthb :) |
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Hi |
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@wunder intercourse, pa |
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lastn0de |
hi |
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cait |
hi lastn0de |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6458] incorrect parsing result in translation processing <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6458> |
| 17:14 |
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lastn0de |
cait: i was just wondering if there was a way to dumb down koha a bit |
| 17:14 |
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lastn0de |
for use in a small K-12 school library for example |
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cait |
hm there are lots of things you can deactivate |
| 17:14 |
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lastn0de |
i like koha because of the community and so on |
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cait |
and I think a lot of schools are using koha already |
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lastn0de |
ok |
| 17:14 |
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lastn0de |
im just going throughteh docs |
| 17:15 |
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lastn0de |
we have about 3000 books |
| 17:15 |
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cait |
especially in opac lots of features can be deactivated |
| 17:15 |
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lastn0de |
(I'm not a librarian, I'm an Englisht eacher) |
| 17:15 |
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lastn0de |
but justtrying to help the librarian out |
| 17:15 |
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cait |
where are you located? |
| 17:15 |
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cait |
only curious :) |
| 17:15 |
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lastn0de |
Colombo, Sri Lanka |
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lastn0de |
:) |
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cait |
ah, I am from Germany |
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lastn0de |
ok |
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lastn0de |
i mean the MARC format |
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cait |
good thing about open source is that you can try it |
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cait |
for free |
| 17:16 |
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lastn0de |
is somewaht overkill |
| 17:16 |
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lastn0de |
yeah i know |
| 17:16 |
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cait |
yes, marc is a bit mean |
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jcamins_away |
lastn0de: you can use a simplified framework. |
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lastn0de |
ok |
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cait |
but you can configure the forms in cataloging |
| 17:16 |
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lastn0de |
could you guys maybe point me to a relevant doc page |
| 17:16 |
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cait |
and create one with only the few fields you need |
| 17:16 |
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lastn0de |
iw ill def get down and dirty once i decide on koha |
| 17:16 |
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cait |
the fast add framework might be a good start for that |
| 17:16 |
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lastn0de |
i just need to know what can be done |
| 17:17 |
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cait |
a lot can be done |
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lastn0de |
im reasonably fimilar with *nix/perl |
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lastn0de |
ok |
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cait |
make sure you get your koha from koha-community.org |
| 17:17 |
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cait |
you can also find the english manual there |
| 17:17 |
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lastn0de |
also since ill need to sell this over some dumb proprietary system theyre trying to implement |
| 17:17 |
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cait |
in the menu documentation |
| 17:17 |
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lastn0de |
does koha do csv export |
| 17:17 |
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lastn0de |
of all data? |
| 17:17 |
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cait |
you can export marc |
| 17:17 |
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lastn0de |
ok |
| 17:17 |
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lastn0de |
oh marc is a file format? |
| 17:17 |
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cait |
and you can define csv profiles for export |
| 17:17 |
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lastn0de |
right! |
| 17:18 |
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lastn0de |
im on the manual right notw actually |
| 17:18 |
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cait |
ok :) |
| 17:18 |
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lastn0de |
is fast add catalog |
| 17:18 |
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lastn0de |
what im looking for? |
| 17:18 |
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cait |
yes, could be a good staring point if oyu don't want to use all fields from the marc format |
| 17:20 |
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cait |
lots of things can be configured |
| 17:20 |
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cait |
using your perl skills on koha should only be a last resort |
| 17:20 |
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cait |
it makes updates much harder later |
| 17:20 |
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lastn0de |
yes |
| 17:21 |
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lastn0de |
i dont plan on messing with the code at all actually |
| 17:21 |
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cait |
:) |
| 17:21 |
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lastn0de |
id just know how to set it up, is what i meant |
| 17:21 |
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lastn0de |
im an english teacher, not a programmer ^^ |
| 17:21 |
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cait |
and feel free to come back and ask questons - weekends are a bit silent here |
| 17:21 |
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lastn0de |
np |
| 17:21 |
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lastn0de |
i will def come back |
| 17:21 |
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lastn0de |
i think im gonna get an AWS slice |
| 17:21 |
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cait |
but during the week there are always a lot of helpful people around |
| 17:21 |
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lastn0de |
and set this up |
| 17:21 |
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cait |
aws is nice |
| 17:21 |
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cait |
covers :) |
| 17:21 |
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lastn0de |
though production might have to be on LAN |
| 17:21 |
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lastn0de |
at school |
| 17:21 |
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cait |
ah |
| 17:21 |
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cait |
aws is something else... |
| 17:22 |
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cait |
sorry, got confused |
| 17:22 |
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lastn0de |
except having koha and not having it accessible from home is dumb |
| 17:22 |
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lastn0de |
i meant amazon web services |
| 17:22 |
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lastn0de |
one question |
| 17:22 |
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lastn0de |
is there a way to plug in a barcode scanner |
| 17:22 |
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lastn0de |
since this is web based |
| 17:22 |
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lastn0de |
i was wondeirng how that works |
| 17:22 |
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jcamins_away |
cait: no, you had it right. AWS provides covers in addition to EC2. |
| 17:23 |
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jcamins_away |
lastn0de: get a USB scanner, plug it in, and you're good to go. :) |
| 17:23 |
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cait |
scanners work like keyboards basically |
| 17:23 |
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cait |
put your cursor into the right field and scan |
| 17:23 |
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lastn0de |
wait what |
| 17:23 |
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lastn0de |
imbehindthe times i see |
| 17:24 |
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cait |
if you can scan into a text file it will work for koha too |
| 17:24 |
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cait |
if it works at all it will work with koha... |
| 17:24 |
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lastn0de |
can koha do stuff like |
| 17:24 |
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lastn0de |
just allow us to enter ISBN scanned code only |
| 17:25 |
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lastn0de |
into fast entry mode |
| 17:25 |
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lastn0de |
and grab the book details from teh wbe? |
| 17:25 |
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lastn0de |
*web |
| 17:25 |
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cait |
you can search z39.50 targests |
| 17:25 |
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lastn0de |
sorry for typos, ssh is lagging |
| 17:25 |
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cait |
and download records |
| 17:25 |
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cait |
and you can search by isbn |
| 17:25 |
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jcamins_away |
lastn0de: you can use Z39.50 to get records from other libraries, but there's no guarantee you'll be able to find them using ISBN. |
| 17:25 |
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cait |
look for z39.50 |
| 17:26 |
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cait |
yes, not all targets support isbn |
| 17:26 |
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lastn0de |
but i mean from a book th ebarcode scans the ISBN right |
| 17:26 |
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lastn0de |
i will need to scan it into the isbn field |
| 17:26 |
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lastn0de |
then the z39.50 search will use that number? |
| 17:26 |
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jcamins_away |
lastn0de: kind of. |
| 17:26 |
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lastn0de |
i realise these arenoob questions |
| 17:26 |
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jcamins_away |
Or, rather, yes, that's the process. |
| 17:26 |
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lastn0de |
thanks for answering |
| 17:27 |
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cait |
lastn0de: you are welcome :) |
| 17:27 |
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jcamins_away |
However (and this is a big proviso), chances are good that you won't be able to find the record using ISBN. :( |
| 17:27 |
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lastn0de |
so what will it need |
| 17:27 |
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cait |
title words |
| 17:27 |
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cait |
is also good |
| 17:27 |
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cait |
or author |
| 17:27 |
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jcamins_away |
Part of the title usually works best. |
| 17:27 |
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cait |
depends really on the target you ar using |
| 17:27 |
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lastn0de |
part of the reason is that the librarian had cataloged 3k books by hand |
| 17:27 |
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lastn0de |
and now she doesnt want to do it again |
| 17:27 |
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lastn0de |
inthis software someone is bringing along |
| 17:27 |
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cait |
they implement the standard a bit differently or don't support all search fields - most support title and author |
| 17:27 |
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lastn0de |
i have a feelingit's gonna be something dumb, c;lunky, windows |
| 17:28 |
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cait |
hm |
| 17:28 |
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lastn0de |
so i wanna wow the crap outta them with koha |
| 17:28 |
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cait |
do you know if the system can expor tmarc? |
| 17:28 |
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cait |
or csv? |
| 17:28 |
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lastn0de |
no no |
| 17:28 |
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lastn0de |
it is cataloged offline |
| 17:28 |
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lastn0de |
t_t |
| 17:28 |
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cait |
offline meaning? something like excel? |
| 17:28 |
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lastn0de |
not sure |
| 17:28 |
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lastn0de |
maybe even a book |
| 17:28 |
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lastn0de |
lol |
| 17:29 |
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lastn0de |
it's a pilot school |
| 17:29 |
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lastn0de |
not a lot of kids, not a lot of books |
| 17:29 |
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lastn0de |
im working there part time, but hope to go fulltime by theend of the year |
| 17:29 |
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lastn0de |
so kinda thinking ahead to make our collective lives easier |
| 17:29 |
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lastn0de |
(also gonna try and push schooltool for school admin) |
| 17:30 |
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lastn0de |
wanna get a linuxbox in to the admin/office anyway, so koha and any other foss stuff can run |
| 17:31 |
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lastn0de |
speakingof which, is there a distro on which koha just intsalls ezpz using teh package manager? |
| 17:31 |
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jcamins_away |
Debian. |
| 17:31 |
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lastn0de |
id prefer if i didnt have to do too much to upgrade |
| 17:31 |
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lastn0de |
nice |
| 17:31 |
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lastn0de |
! |
| 17:32 |
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jcamins_away |
You have to add the apt sources, but that's it. |
| 17:32 |
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lastn0de |
so updates etc just get pulled in? |
| 17:32 |
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lastn0de |
sweet |
| 17:32 |
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lastn0de |
im just reading the squeeze install docs right now |
| 17:33 |
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lastn0de |
btw fun tidbit |
| 17:33 |
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lastn0de |
Koha is actually a bird in Sri Lanka |
| 17:33 |
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lastn0de |
in the Sinhala language |
| 17:33 |
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lastn0de |
(Asian Koel or cuckoo bird) |
| 17:33 |
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jcamins_away |
Interesting. |
| 17:33 |
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wahanui |
well, interesting is good |
| 17:34 |
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lastn0de |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A[…]n_Koel#In_culture |
| 17:35 |
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cait |
a bird is nice - flying Koha |
| 17:36 |
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cait |
lastn0de: debian.koha-community.org |
| 17:37 |
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lastn0de |
yeah im reading the wiki now cait |
| 17:38 |
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lastn0de |
could you guys link me to a K-12 library site powered by koha maybe? |
| 17:38 |
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lastn0de |
several universities here in sri lanka run it |
| 17:38 |
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lastn0de |
but id like to see a school taht uses it too |
| 17:38 |
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jcamins_away |
I don't know the URLs of any off the top of my head. |
| 17:39 |
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cait |
hm |
| 17:40 |
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cait |
is the nz school k-12? |
| 17:40 |
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cait |
not sure about the school system |
| 17:41 |
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cait |
http://library.ashs.school.nz |
| 17:41 |
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jcamins_away |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]a_Users_Worldwide |
| 17:41 |
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cait |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]a_Users_Worldwide |
| 17:41 |
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cait |
:) |
| 17:42 |
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cait |
lastn0de: lib-web-cats is also a good source, but to limit your search to koha and school library you need to get a free account :( |
| 17:42 |
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cait |
before you can't use the advanced search options |
| 17:42 |
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lastn0de |
http://vimeo.com/channels/kohails#14802047 |
| 17:42 |
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lastn0de |
the barcode tags |
| 17:42 |
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lastn0de |
used to checkin/checkout |
| 17:43 |
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lastn0de |
is that isbn barcode |
| 17:43 |
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lastn0de |
or? |
| 17:45 |
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cait |
no you should create your own numbers |
| 17:45 |
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lastn0de |
ok |
| 17:45 |
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cait |
isbn will not work when you have 2 copies of a book |
| 17:45 |
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cait |
or 2 different editions |
| 17:45 |
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cait |
you need a unique number for each book |
| 17:45 |
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lastn0de |
so that barcode system |
| 17:45 |
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lastn0de |
does koha do that |
| 17:45 |
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cait |
koha can generate those numbers and you can print them :) |
| 17:45 |
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cait |
but you can also use preprinted barcodes |
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lastn0de |
wwkoha will generate the barcode too? |
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cait |
yes, there is a module for printing of barcode labels |
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lastn0de |
that is pretty sweet |
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cait |
and there is an option to make koha generate a number when you catalog items |
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cait |
ok, have to leave for a little while |
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cait |
be back later |
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lastn0de |
thank you very much cait_afk |
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lastn0de |
thank you jcamins_away |
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lastn0de |
i will idle here and be back later to talk :) |
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jcamins_away |
You're welcome. I may or may not be here, in case you have any questions. ;) |
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lastn0de |
cool |
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lastn0de |
thanks! :) |
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