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huginn |
Bug 5788: enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , Move ReservesMaxPickupDelay system preference to the Circulation Matrix. |
| 00:00 |
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bg |
ah is he here? |
| 00:00 |
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paulnz |
hi all |
| 00:00 |
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rangi |
id use either the wr or the bug to ask bg |
| 00:02 |
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eythian |
mtj: it is something to do with the db, if I switch to another one it works. |
| 00:02 |
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eythian |
curious, but not something I need to bother about right now. |
| 00:03 |
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mtj |
cool... |
| 00:11 |
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bg |
nice melia updated the wr for us |
| 00:11 |
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melia |
:) |
| 00:11 |
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paulnz |
hi rangi |
| 00:24 |
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rangi |
hiya paulnz |
| 00:41 |
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libsysguy |
hey guys |
| 00:41 |
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libsysguy |
(and #Koha girls) |
| 00:51 |
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bg |
heya libsysguy |
| 00:51 |
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wahanui |
well, libsysguy is curious why it is looking for the biblios table |
| 01:25 |
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libsysguy |
and back |
| 01:25 |
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libsysguy |
anybody up for helping me tackle an ldap question |
| 01:37 |
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wizzyrea |
I am the walrus, koo koo ka choo |
| 01:56 |
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rangi |
ok |
| 01:56 |
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rangi |
How would you explain 'Authority Search Results'? I'm translating it in |
| 01:56 |
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rangi |
Koha but am not sure of the exact meaning of 'authority' here. |
| 01:56 |
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rangi |
how the hell do you explain authorities in library world to someone |
| 02:01 |
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paulnz |
try this rangi |
| 02:04 |
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paulnz |
when you come up with explanation you'll be ahead of plenty of librarians |
| 02:04 |
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paulnz |
http://www.loc.gov/marc/uma/pt1-7.html#pt4 |
| 02:05 |
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rangi |
heh |
| 02:05 |
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rangi |
thanks that oughta help (its for the updating the maori translations) |
| 02:12 |
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rangi |
wizzyrea: you might know this |
| 02:13 |
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rangi |
does nekls have a floating collection? |
| 02:16 |
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rangi |
hi jransom |
| 02:19 |
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jransom |
hi Chris |
| 02:20 |
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| 02:24 |
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wizzyrea |
rangi: nope, nekls doesn't have a floathing collection |
| 02:24 |
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wizzyrea |
floating, even |
| 02:24 |
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rangi |
dangit |
| 02:24 |
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wizzyrea |
floathing... that must be a freudian slip |
| 02:25 |
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rangi |
im not sure how to do it |
| 02:25 |
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wizzyrea |
hmm |
| 02:25 |
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wizzyrea |
well |
| 02:25 |
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rangi |
a set of items that shouldnt prompt for being returned to their homebranch |
| 02:26 |
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wizzyrea |
well in this case, homebranch = where they currently are |
| 02:27 |
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rangi |
homebranch = where they should be, once they have finished floating at some point in the future |
| 02:27 |
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wizzyrea |
ooh yuck |
| 02:27 |
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rangi |
yeah |
| 02:27 |
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rangi |
if we had a homebrnach=floating |
| 02:28 |
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rangi |
and current branch, where they are |
| 02:28 |
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wizzyrea |
or a flag for floating |
| 02:28 |
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rangi |
i wonder if there is a way to say nothing in floating should prompt for transfer |
| 02:29 |
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wizzyrea |
but it could technically be transited to another branch to fill a request right? |
| 02:30 |
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wizzyrea |
well we'd need to know whether ^ that scenario exists |
| 02:30 |
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wizzyrea |
because if it doesn't, you could set an itype and do local hold only |
| 02:30 |
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wizzyrea |
or no hold |
| 02:30 |
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rangi |
yep, you could transfer for reserve |
| 02:30 |
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rangi |
but when you return it, it shouldnt prompt to go home |
| 02:30 |
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wizzyrea |
well that blows that then :) |
| 02:30 |
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rangi |
BUT everything else should |
| 02:30 |
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wizzyrea |
aha |
| 02:31 |
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* wizzyrea |
was imagining a floating collection where every item in the set floated together |
| 02:31 |
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rangi |
nope |
| 02:31 |
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wizzyrea |
so these items live wherever they are, technically |
| 02:31 |
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rangi |
yeah |
| 02:31 |
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wizzyrea |
until it's time to go home |
| 02:31 |
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rangi |
yup |
| 02:32 |
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rangi |
so that if a Patea customer reserves a Hawera book, and returns the book at Patea, it stays as part of the Patea collection. |
| 02:32 |
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wizzyrea |
but you still need to know that it started out at Hawera |
| 02:32 |
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rangi |
ideally |
| 02:33 |
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wizzyrea |
the dirty way I think of would be to store the real home in the private note of the item record |
| 02:33 |
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wizzyrea |
or somesuch |
| 02:34 |
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rangi |
yeah i had that thought :) |
| 02:36 |
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wizzyrea |
but then again, libraries keep oher stuff there too |
| 02:36 |
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wizzyrea |
so could get mess |
| 02:36 |
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wizzyrea |
messy even. |
| 02:36 |
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rangi |
yeah i think doing it properly with a flag is the way |
| 02:37 |
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rangi |
then you could bulk update |
| 02:37 |
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wizzyrea |
authorized value? |
| 02:37 |
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rangi |
that might work |
| 02:39 |
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wizzyrea |
woot 3 part name searching! |
| 02:39 |
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wizzyrea |
I know what I'll be testing tomorrow |
| 02:39 |
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rangi |
heh |
| 02:49 |
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rangi |
libsysguy: http://grooveshark.com/#/s/L+e[…]stes/2CFjbA?src=5 |
| 02:49 |
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rangi |
(since i missed you yesterday) |
| 02:52 |
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libsysguy |
yes! i was looking for you yesterday for some good music |
| 02:55 |
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paulnz |
do they need a home? |
| 02:55 |
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paulnz |
could home be floating? |
| 02:55 |
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paulnz |
then when you've finished the float cycle, bulk update them with a home? |
| 02:55 |
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rangi |
yup that could be home, but then we'd need to tell koha, stop trying to transfer things back to floating ;) |
| 02:55 |
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paulnz |
and floating can be done at item and collection level? |
| 02:55 |
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rangi |
that would be cool |
| 02:56 |
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rangi |
its just the code to say, 'if this is floating, dont prompt to transfer' |
| 02:56 |
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rangi |
shouldnt be a big job to do that though |
| 03:15 |
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wizzyrea |
famous last words |
| 03:15 |
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wizzyrea |
i meann, it *is* reserves... |
| 03:16 |
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rangi |
heh, well wont actually be touching reserves |
| 03:16 |
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rangi |
its AddReturn |
| 03:16 |
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rangi |
which in the scheme of things is almost sane |
| 03:23 |
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| 03:24 |
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rangi |
@quote get 123 |
| 03:24 |
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huginn |
rangi: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
| 03:48 |
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rangi |
chilts: im being lazy, what license is go released under? |
| 03:49 |
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chilts |
the one Google usually do, I think it's a BSD one ... I'll check |
| 03:50 |
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chilts |
BSD-style |
| 03:50 |
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chilts |
apaprently |
| 03:50 |
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rangi |
ta |
| 03:51 |
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rangi |
youve given up on node.js ? |
| 03:51 |
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chilts |
https://go.googlecode.com/hg/LICENSE |
| 03:51 |
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chilts |
am doing both Node and Go! at the moment |
| 03:52 |
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chilts |
I like them both for different reasons :) |
| 03:52 |
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rangi |
cool |
| 03:52 |
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rangi |
i think im gonna play with perl6 more |
| 03:52 |
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chilts |
I updated my queue thing in Node last week (just a play thing) : https://github.com/appsattic/sensi |
| 03:52 |
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chilts |
I should do, but not yet :) |
| 03:52 |
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rangi |
:) |
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| 05:16 |
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rangi |
@wunder wellington nz |
| 05:16 |
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huginn |
rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 2.0�C (5:00 PM NZST on August 16, 2011). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 0.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). |
| 05:17 |
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eythian |
we just had a short hailstorm here |
| 05:25 |
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eythian |
http://imgur.com/H6qry |
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cait |
morning #koha |
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cait |
rangi around? |
| 06:07 |
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magnus_away is now known as magnus_afk |
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cait |
from away to afk? :) |
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magnus_afk is now known as magnuse |
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magnuse |
hm, seems it goes back to what i was before i logged off... |
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cait |
god morgen :) |
| 06:10 |
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magnuse |
guten morgen! |
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alex_a |
bonjour #koha ! |
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magnuse |
bonjour alex_a |
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alex_a |
hi magnuse :) |
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cait |
bonjour alex_a :) |
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alex_a |
hi cait |
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alex_a |
:) |
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reiveune |
hello |
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magnuse |
kia ora hdl |
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hdl |
hi magnuse |
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kf |
good morning #koha |
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julian |
hello #koha |
| 07:46 |
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rangi |
around now |
| 07:47 |
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kf |
rangi: I was only thinking that the floating collections sounds similar to the rotating collection things |
| 07:49 |
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rangi |
similair |
| 07:49 |
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rangi |
similar even |
| 07:49 |
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rangi |
but not quite the same |
| 07:49 |
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rangi |
rotating is more you move items to a branch and they stay there a while, then the whole collection moves |
| 07:49 |
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rangi |
the floating one is more, and item can be anywhere |
| 07:50 |
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rangi |
it never has to return home, until its no longer floating |
| 07:50 |
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rangi |
both are good features to have |
| 08:00 |
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mtj |
interesting.... |
| 08:00 |
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wahanui |
i think interesting is sometimes bad or sometimes good |
| 08:00 |
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mtj |
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2[…]e_of_node_dot_js/ |
| 08:02 |
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kf |
rangi: ah ok :) |
| 08:02 |
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kf |
@wunder Wellington, NZ |
| 08:02 |
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huginn |
kf: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 7.0�C (7:00 PM NZST on August 16, 2011). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:04 |
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rangi |
its warmed up lots |
| 08:04 |
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rangi |
it was 2 |
| 08:04 |
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kf |
that's good, right? |
| 08:07 |
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rangi |
yep |
| 08:08 |
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kf |
:) |
| 08:25 |
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magnuse |
buses running again? |
| 08:28 |
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rangi |
at the moment yup |
| 08:28 |
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magnuse |
yay! ;-) |
| 08:35 |
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rangi |
wow |
| 08:35 |
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rangi |
that was a huge fail |
| 08:35 |
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kf |
hm? |
| 08:35 |
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rangi |
latest message to the list |
| 08:36 |
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rangi |
guy sends a mail to the list, replying to the digest and quoting the entire digest, owen answers and asks him not to reply to digests |
| 08:36 |
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rangi |
and then he sends another mail, asking the same question, replying to the digest, that contains owen answering him |
| 08:39 |
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magnuse |
ouch |
| 08:46 |
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slef |
rangi: one of reasons I now delete digests unread unless I'm a list admin. The world can't afford the data transfer charges of encouraging bad posters. |
| 08:46 |
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slef |
hi all |
| 08:46 |
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magnuse |
kia ora slef |
| 08:47 |
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rangi |
i never answer anyone who posts the exact same question 2 days in a row anyway |
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kf |
hi slef |
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slef |
rangi: I don't get to answer that quickly at the moment :( |
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Judit |
good evening |
| 08:54 |
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Judit |
how do you change the blue background on the opac at the top to a different colour? |
| 08:55 |
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rangi |
http://www.myacpl.org/koha/?p=160 |
| 08:56 |
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Judit |
cool rangi thank you |
| 08:56 |
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Judit |
do you really have snow down there? |
| 08:56 |
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rangi |
yes |
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rangi |
http://www.stuff.co.nz/5453107[…]snow-from-the-sky |
| 08:58 |
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Judit |
how many snowman have you built? |
| 08:58 |
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rangi |
http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]mid-weather-chaos |
| 08:58 |
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rangi |
none, im bored of snow already :) |
| 08:59 |
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Judit |
snow is so much fun! |
| 08:59 |
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Judit |
go out and bulid one! |
| 08:59 |
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rangi |
snow is annoying |
| 08:59 |
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Judit |
no |
| 08:59 |
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Judit |
snow is beautiful and funfunfun |
| 09:00 |
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rangi |
no its really not, it causes crashes, and people to die of hypothermia, specially in places like christchurch where people still have broken houses from the earthquake |
| 09:00 |
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Judit |
well, you need to be ready for snow, that is true |
| 09:05 |
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slef |
rangi: did you know Wellington+Auckland snow was on our national news shows yesterday? #sillyseason |
| 09:06 |
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rangi |
heh |
| 09:07 |
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rangi |
its actually the ice thats the problem in wellington |
| 09:07 |
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rangi |
with our steep hills and narrow windy streets |
| 09:07 |
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slef |
Always is. People drive on snow = ice from day 2 onwards. |
| 09:07 |
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rangi |
sliding buses and cars = not good |
| 09:07 |
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slef |
if there were no cars, bikes could still use most of the snowy roads OK |
| 09:08 |
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slef |
but once it gets icy, walking is the only safe way. |
| 09:08 |
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rangi |
yup |
| 09:08 |
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slef |
Well, it's currently a traditional English summer outside here. |
| 09:09 |
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rangi |
we had power outages yesterday too, which since most of our buses are electric made a mess |
| 09:09 |
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slef |
I think we're high enough up the hill not to flood, though. |
| 09:09 |
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rangi |
heh |
| 09:09 |
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slef |
Our buses just give up as soon as there's snow, citing safety. |
| 09:10 |
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rangi |
yeah, they gave up at 7pm last night here, but were on again this morning |
| 09:10 |
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slef |
One of the advantages of life in a big city :) |
| 09:10 |
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rangi |
still a few routes closed |
| 09:10 |
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slef |
So "made a mess" = just stopped dead where they were? |
| 09:11 |
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slef |
or do they have a neutral so people could push them off the road? |
| 09:11 |
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slef |
bbi30ish |
| 09:13 |
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rangi |
they can run under autonomous power for a little while |
| 09:13 |
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rangi |
so they unhook from the wires and park up somewhere safe |
| 09:13 |
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rangi |
then connect back to the wire and wait for the power to come back on |
| 09:14 |
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rangi |
cold for the poor drivers |
| 09:14 |
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magnuse |
how often does something like this happen in wellington? |
| 09:15 |
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magnuse |
the very beautiful video from Cuba street said "once in a lifetime"? |
| 09:15 |
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rangi |
been about 50 years |
| 09:15 |
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magnuse |
oh wow |
| 09:15 |
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magnuse |
no wonder you seem a little unprepared, then ;-) |
| 09:16 |
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rangi |
its a storm straight from antartica, that came up way faster than they normally do, normally they warm up a bit by the time the get to nz |
| 09:17 |
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rangi |
and snow to sea level in wellington is pretty much unheard of |
| 09:20 |
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rangi |
so snow plus 111kmph gusts = not fun |
| 09:20 |
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magnuse |
nope! |
| 09:21 |
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rangi |
our house only got flurries, but we got the wind and hail |
| 09:21 |
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magnuse |
bad enough! |
| 09:23 |
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rangi |
yeah, it was fun for the people who have never seen snow before |
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magnuse |
:-) |
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slef |
so, what do you make of http://www.librarytechnology.o[…]ytext.pl?RC=15967 "3M Company and EnvisionWare, Inc. have entered into a confidential settlement agreement [about RFID patents]" |
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magnuse |
slef: just that software patents are evil... |
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magnuse |
o/ |
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druthb |
o/ |
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rangi |
kmkale: are you about? |
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Topic for #koha is now Next General IRC Meeting 7 September 2011 at 18.00 UTC. This is a nominations meeting. |
| 13:23 |
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libsysguy |
I am getting this error when trying to check in a book in dropbox mode |
| 13:23 |
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libsysguy |
Can’t locate object method ‘new’ via package “koha†at /home/koha/kohaclone/c4/circulation, pm line 1798, <DATA> line 522 |
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libsysguy |
and I really don't know where to start trouble shooting it |
| 13:29 |
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oleonard |
I wish I knew what to suggest libsysguy. FWIW I don't get the error in my test install. |
| 13:29 |
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jcamins_away |
libsysguy: missing some date calculation module? |
| 13:29 |
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jcamins_away |
That's the only thing I an think of. |
| 13:29 |
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Agent_Dani |
Brooke: Nice link! I was thinking about the birds in my area after hearing an owl while drifting off to sleep last night. |
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Brooke |
the profiles are pretty suck, which is stinky |
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Brooke |
but the voice stuff is great |
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Brooke |
and this guy *was* vocal. |
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libsysguy |
hmm |
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hdl1 |
hi all |
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Brooke |
Oak!! |
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Oak |
Brooke!! |
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wahanui |
Brooke tripped on the cord, broke the internet or not fond of a single person blocking another. |
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hdl1 |
anyone having no display for error pages on 3.4 ? |
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* Brooke |
gives Oak a big hug. |
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Oak |
aww |
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Brooke |
ha! |
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Brooke |
wahanui forget Brooke |
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wahanui |
Brooke: I forgot brooke |
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Oak |
how are ya Brooke? |
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hdl1 |
lucky Oak a big Brooke's hug in the morning |
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* Brooke |
can share! |
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* Brooke |
gives a big hug to the Flying Frenchman. |
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Oak |
hehe |
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oleonard |
hdl1: No display? |
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hdl1 |
blank page. |
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oleonard |
What kind of error pages? |
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hdl1 |
Brooke: Big hug |
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hdl1 |
400 404 |
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hdl1 |
it calls HTML::Template::Pro |
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* oleonard |
gets the right error page for 403 and 404 |
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Brooke |
d'oh bywater's running 3.5 so I can't reproduce that :( |
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wizzyrea |
mornin |
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oleonard |
Hi wizzyrea |
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Brooke |
howdy |
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wahanui |
que tal, Brooke |
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Brooke |
on one hand, seeing rare birds is cool. On the other hand, it means I almost always need an ornithologist buddy. Haven't had that luxury in like at least a decade. |
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hdl1 |
oleonard: i have a call to errors/400.tmpl |
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hdl1 |
in 400.pl |
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hdl1 |
I don't think it should be that |
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oleonard |
hdl1: I don't understand how it works. I see lots of calls to tmpl files in the scripts |
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kf |
ie-- css-- |
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kf |
bye all |
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* oleonard |
is happy that Bug 6253 get's wizzyrea's signoff. Sounds like a great improvement |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6253 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , Unified Patron Search subroutine |
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wizzyrea |
good old henry :) |
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wizzyrea |
does srdjan have an IRC nick? |
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oleonard |
We should plug http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars more often |
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* oleonard |
doesn't even see Brooke on there |
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oleonard |
We should list the bots there too |
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wizzyrea |
are you doing that or should I add them :) |
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oleonard |
Go ahead if you're inclined. I'm just shooting my mouth off |
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wizzyrea |
I'll do it |
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wizzyrea |
I'm already in |
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oleonard |
I also wonder if we should trim those who are not seen after a certain amount of time |
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oleonard |
@seen acmoore |
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huginn |
oleonard: I have not seen acmoore. |
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wizzyrea |
yea, I was trimming some |
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wizzyrea |
like that one |
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* jcamins_away |
plays a funeral dirge for Z39.50. |
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jcamins_away |
MELVYL no longer supports Z39.50. |
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oleonard |
I didn't even know Z39.50 was sick |
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jcamins_away |
Nor did I, but apparently we're behind the times. |
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oleonard |
What magic protocol is up and coming? |
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jcamins_away |
oleonard: "do the search in the OPAC your own damn self." |
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Agent_Dani |
heh |
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oleonard |
:D |
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* jcamins_away |
dials in to a conference call. |
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oleonard |
I know some librarians who run that protocol |
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Agent_Dani |
The evening I had a dream in it was when I knew I needed a vacation. |
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wizzyrea |
IRC regulars is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars |
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wizzyrea |
irc regulars? |
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wahanui |
irc regulars is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars |
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magnuse |
bibsys here in norway are only supporting SRU for the future. their z39.50 server is still running, but they have said if saomething happens to it they won't repair |
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wizzyrea |
bots are listed at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars |
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wizzyrea |
bots? |
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wahanui |
bots are cloning? |
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wizzyrea |
forget bots |
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wahanui |
wizzyrea: I forgot bots |
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wizzyrea |
bots are listed at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars |
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wizzyrea |
bots? |
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wahanui |
bots are listed at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars |
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oleonard |
Well done wizzyrea, thank you. |
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reiveune |
bye |
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rhcl |
The hummingbird migration in the US is underway; I routinely have 2-6 hummingbirds at my feeders |
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oleonard |
Hi melia, I read about you in a press release! |
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melia |
:) |
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melia |
I'm famous! |
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rhcl |
whois melia |
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oleonard |
http://bywatersolutions.com/20[…]perations-manager |
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rhcl |
just googled it |
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rhcl |
:) |
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jcamins_away |
rhcl: I'm not familiar with that ILS, Hummingbird. Tell them to switch to Koha. :) |
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rhcl |
IRT Brooke post @0854. I wonder, having now posted this, if there is a way to set xchat to zulu time? But that would only help if everybody else on channel was set to zulu too. |
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slef |
rhcl: does xchat not take from TZ environment variable? So start it with "env TZ=UTC xchat" |
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slef |
bibsys here in norway? |
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bencahill |
hey guys, what scripts do I need to run to upgrade database (mysql) from 3.2.x to 3.4.x? running remove_items_from_biblioitems.pl --run now... |
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bencahill |
I'm getting a ton of these, by the way, should I be concerned? |
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bencahill |
Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2796. |
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rhcl |
test |
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luisb |
success |
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rhcl |
OK, maybe I'strftime |
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rhcl |
disregard above |
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rhcl |
OK, maybe I'm just not seeing it, but is there nothing in strftime that lets you specify UTC explicitly? |
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libsysguy |
hey guys...I am getting a weird error that im not really sure how to troubleshoot |
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libsysguy |
its: Can’t locate object method ‘new’ via package “koha†at /home/koha/kohaclone/c4/circulation, pm line 1798, <DATA> line 522 |
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libsysguy |
and it happens when i go to return a checkout in dropbox mode |
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bencahill |
hmm, everyone seems to be asleep :-/ |
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libsysguy |
sadly |
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slef |
rhcl: perl strftime? |
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rhcl |
slef: linux (man) strftime (should be the same surely) |
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rhcl |
libsysguy: is there nothing in google that gives you a hint? http://lists.koha-community.or[…]ruary/035103.html |
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slef |
rhcl: setenv TZ to UTC first? |
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bencahill |
how long should the remove_items_from_biblioitems take to run on a database with 2000 biblios/items? it's been running for over 20 minutes! |
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wizzyrea |
it can take a really long time |
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wizzyrea |
it was hours on our DB |
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wizzyrea |
about 6 |
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bencahill |
wizzyrea: how many items? |
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wizzyrea |
750k ish |
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rhcl |
slef: yea, that's probably the correct solution. |
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bencahill |
wizzyrea: I've only got 2k, so it should be done pretty soon then? |
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wizzyrea |
seems like it shouldn't take too much longer |
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slef |
ok... I've been asked to change the label "Barcode" in the librarian interface. Am I right in thinking that's going to be everywhere in the templates? |
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bencahill |
not necessarily a fast server, so that's probably slowing it down as well |
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bencahill |
wizzyrea: kthx, off to lunch now... |
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wizzyrea |
libsysguy: I'm not getting that error on my dev box |
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wizzyrea |
maybe something to do with hourly loans mucking it up? |
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wizzyrea |
slef: yea, it's all over |
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wizzyrea |
maybe a translation would serve you better in that case |
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wizzyrea |
instead of mucking about with the templates |
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wizzyrea |
just a thought. |
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slef |
yeah, I was wondering that, but they want the change only in librarian... so I guess different languages in the two? |
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wizzyrea |
well they have independent strings, right? |
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* wizzyrea |
is not an expert on translation |
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slef |
I think so. Been a while since I touched this. |
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wizzyrea |
maybe kf can answer that |
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wizzyrea |
ping kf / cait |
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slef |
hrm, "Barcode" is peppered through lots of the strings. |
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slef |
I think cait's between work and home or something |
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wizzyrea |
aha |
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wizzyrea |
speaking of which |
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wizzyrea |
lunch |
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wizzyrea |
pour moi |
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cait |
hi #koha |
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libsysguy |
wizzyrea: i found out what it was |
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libsysguy |
its an error in hourly loans |
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cait |
hi libsysguy |
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libsysguy |
hey cait |
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slef |
hi cait. If someone wants to change the word "barcode" everywhere in the staff interface only (not the OPAC), do you think a translation should be able to do that OK? |
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cait |
hm yes |
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cait |
but lots of strings might have to be changed |
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cait |
what is it supposed to be changed to? |
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cait |
and is it really necessary? |
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slef |
yes, I'll let the librarian do that. They might decide it's not so important then. |
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slef |
;-) |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
poedit is good |
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cait |
perhaps even something like search and replace, you might want to check |
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slef |
right. I should take a look at that. |
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cait |
also pretty good for finding problems with the files |
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cait |
can check for missing placeholders and such that will break translations |
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slef |
cool. I thought there was a msglint or something but I can't find it now :( |
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cait |
msglint? |
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wizzyrea |
libsysguy: hoorah! |
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wizzyrea |
(that you found the problem) |
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wizzyrea |
(not that it's broken, of course) |
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rangi |
@wunder wellington nz |
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huginn |
rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 6.0�C (6:00 AM NZST on August 17, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Rising). |
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wizzyrea |
br |
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rangi |
yeah the windchill is not fun |
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rangi |
Routes 4/32 Are now running as Route 1 services |
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rangi |
crap! |
| 18:15 |
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wizzyrea |
due to snow? |
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rangi |
ice |
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wizzyrea |
! |
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bencahill |
wizzyrea: still going... :-P |
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rangi |
our hill is steep |
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wizzyrea |
gonna have to hike down to get the bus? |
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rangi |
yup |
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wizzyrea |
blerg |
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bg |
@wunder 93109 |
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huginn |
bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 18.8�C (11:17 AM PDT on August 16, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Steady). |
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rangi |
http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]-as-weather-eases |
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rangi |
checkout picture 2 |
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wizzyrea |
o my lord |
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rangi |
colder would actually be better |
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wizzyrea |
yea, no melting/freezing |
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wizzyrea |
at least here, it's when it melts and re-freezes that it really becomes a problem |
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rangi |
http://www.stuff.co.nz/5453107[…]snow-from-the-sky <-- pretty cool video |
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wizzyrea |
oooo pretty |
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wizzyrea |
you guys really got it wow |
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wizzyrea |
I like how the ad on the winter weather black ice story is a lovely picture of the tropics. |
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wizzyrea |
at least it is for me ;) |
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rangi |
hehe |
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oleonard |
So anyone working on anything fun these days? |
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rangi |
not probably until after october |
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* oleonard |
has dutifully updated his jquery-ui branch, still wondering when the menu component is going to be released |
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rangi |
menu component? |
| 18:44 |
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oleonard |
A jquery-ui native widget to replace the YUI menu widget |
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oleonard |
It's in alpha right now. The last piece which needs to be placed before we can ditch YUI js |
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cait |
oh |
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rangi |
ahh |
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cait |
couldn't we start with replacing othermodules first? |
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rangi |
half and half would be messy |
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oleonard |
We could. I hoped to be able to add jquery ui at the same time we removed YUI so as not to double-up on dependencies |
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cait |
ok |
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oleonard |
Although I'm getting impatient... |
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rangi |
hehe |
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cait |
hm something fun |
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rangi |
i started on the read api for open library |
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rangi |
which pulls in their digital copies if they exist |
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rangi |
works now, but needs lots of UI work |
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oleonard |
Neat |
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rangi |
https://gitorious.org/koha/mai[…]s/new_openlibrary |
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rangi |
ok, i hear kids awake |
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rangi |
bbl |
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rhcl |
OK, so my TSS is editing marc records, and would like to hid numerous fields that we never use. How to do? |
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rhcl |
hide |
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oleonard |
Edit the framework |
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wizzyrea |
edit the marc framework, set the fields to 'hide' |
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rhcl |
Yea, that's what she's doing now but it's really time consuming to do all, and then we need to reboot the server to apply the changes. |
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wizzyrea |
!! |
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jcamins_away |
rhcl: run sudo /etc/init.d/memcached restart |
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wizzyrea |
reboot it?! |
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wizzyrea |
oh memcached. |
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wahanui |
hmmm... memcached is not generalized in all the modules. |
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jcamins_away |
Better yet, put /etc/init.d/memcached restart in cron.daily. |
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jcamins_away |
:D |
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wizzyrea |
forget memcached |
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wahanui |
wizzyrea: I forgot memcached |
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jcamins_away |
wahanui: reboot it is the standard, first-resort troubleshooting technique for Windows. |
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wahanui |
OK, jcamins_away. |
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jcamins_away |
reboot it?!? |
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wahanui |
reboot it is, like, the standard, first-resort troubleshooting technique for Windows |
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wizzyrea |
editing the framework can definitely be time consuming. |
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rhcl |
so what's a fix? |
| 19:04 |
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rhcl |
(we're looking for things to fund) |
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wizzyrea |
allow external editing and import of frameworks? |
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wizzyrea |
you can already export them. |
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wizzyrea |
can we import too? (through the gui, i mean) |
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cait |
yep |
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wizzyrea |
oh, then |
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wizzyrea |
rhcl |
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wizzyrea |
do it in CSV |
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wizzyrea |
:P |
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cait |
but nicole reported a bug for that today |
| 19:05 |
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rhcl |
yes? |
| 19:05 |
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wizzyrea |
and import it |
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cait |
she also has a video tutorial somewhere |
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cait |
3.4 i think |
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cait |
http://bywatersolutions.com/20[…]st-add-framework/ |
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wizzyrea |
yea, rhcl |
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wizzyrea |
just use the exporter |
| 19:07 |
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wizzyrea |
export it into CSV |
| 19:07 |
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wizzyrea |
edit it however you want |
| 19:07 |
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wizzyrea |
and reimport it |
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libsysguy |
is anybody familiar with C4/Koha.pm |
| 19:07 |
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wizzyrea |
more accurately, export, edit, create a new framework, then import |
| 19:08 |
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wizzyrea |
or import it over the old one |
| 19:08 |
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wizzyrea |
seems dangerous though |
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rhcl |
well, we just did all that and it seems to work. We owe wizzyrea a lolipop. |
| 19:16 |
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wizzyrea |
HUZZA |
| 19:16 |
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wizzyrea |
I wasn't able to duplicate her bug either |
| 19:16 |
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wizzyrea |
I just imported a framework exported from my test system, into the bywater demo |
| 19:16 |
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wizzyrea |
and it seems to work just fine |
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oleonard |
For a second there I thought rhcl said he owed wizzyrea a laptop |
| 19:17 |
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wizzyrea |
that would be cool too. |
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rhcl |
You know, I've purchased two laptops recently, one for The Director and one for our new bookstore manager. Both had Win 7 installed, and couldn't get either of the &%$%$ to connect to our wireless. |
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rhcl |
Installed Linux Mint 11 on both, worked just fine, and neither of them had any complaints about them not being Windows. |
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rhcl |
I'm working on an all-linux library |
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cait |
nengard: around? |
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rhcl |
BTW, wizzyrea, the newest version of Userful (auto upgrade in our case) has a FF plugin that spoofs the user agent string which helps with some sites demanding IE. |
| 19:21 |
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wizzyrea |
oh that is very very cool |
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rhcl |
If the site is really using ActiveX it won't help, but will with just about anything else that does a browser check. |
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wizzyrea |
:) I do the same with my tablet - i set the user agent as "desktop" so sites won't show me the mobile version on my lovely whatever-size screen it is that isn't a phone. |
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wizzyrea |
I feel special, I have 1337 spam. |
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hguewmLibrarian |
:) I'm not interrupting anything, am I? |
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cait |
no |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
hi hguewmLibrarian |
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hguewmLibrarian |
hi cait |
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hguewmLibrarian |
i've got a technical ponderance for the koha gurus |
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hguewmLibrarian |
it deals with fines reports |
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hguewmLibrarian |
is this the wrong place? |
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cait |
we don#t know your question yet :) |
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cait |
and not sure there are questions where this is the wrong place |
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hguewmLibrarian |
ok. So I'm looking to create a SQL report: showing cumulative fines paid |
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hguewmLibrarian |
so (date) to (date) fines paid - amount (cumulative) - detail on the patron name and payment date |
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hguewmLibrarian |
I found a beauty on the net, that gives current fines owed. |
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hguewmLibrarian |
but not this |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
I have something similar I think |
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cait |
oh |
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cait |
can't access that installation from here |
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cait |
it's definitely possible |
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hguewmLibrarian |
hmm... |
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Brooke |
kia ora |
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cait |
if you pm me your email I can send you the report I have tomorrow |
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hguewmLibrarian |
i figured the koha gurus would know |
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hguewmLibrarian |
sure. :) Thanks cait |
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cait |
I am too tired to figure it out from scratch now... or perhaps I will give it a try |
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aarkerio |
hi!! |
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aarkerio |
somebody can help me with this: |
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aarkerio |
http://mononeurona.org/img/img[…]aarkerio_2238.png |
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aarkerio |
where can I add an item type? |
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wizzyrea |
aarkerio: Administration -> Item Types |
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wizzyrea |
well these cocoa dusted almonds are not at all what I thought i was buying, but they are delicious none the less |
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wizzyrea |
these are actually chocolate enrobed cocoa dusted almonds. |
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aarkerio |
mmm, thanks! |
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wizzyrea |
I just wanted the cocoa dusting. :P |
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aarkerio |
By the way, somebody knows a link about how to add a scientific magazine to Koha? |
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Brooke |
try a search for cataloguing serials in Koha |
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Brooke |
I can only imagine nengard's written summat up |
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aarkerio |
thanks!! Koha is great! |
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rangi |
back |
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rangi |
wizzyrea: in case you havent already, pleas update the bug report :) |
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wizzyrea |
hehe yea, phoneeeeeeeee |
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rangi |
:) |
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libsysguy |
ok so I had a crazy idea today and I want to run it by somebody with programming experience |
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libsysguy |
any body want to let me pick their brain |
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libsysguy |
in Auth_with_ldap.pm there are two functions that I am interested in (search_method, checkpw_ldap). I need to do a recursive search for a user since we have 2 OU's at my school, one for students one for fac/staff. Since checkpw_ldap can only bind to one I want to call search_method from inside checkpw_ldap to do a search for my user then do a bind |
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rangi |
melia: nice press! |
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cait |
wizzyrea: can the runtime parameters bring up a datepicker? |
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rangi |
libsysguy: with you so far |
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wizzyrea |
mmmm let me think about that |
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wizzyrea |
I don't think so |
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wizzyrea |
but keyword = think |
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rangi |
also |
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rangi |
http://grooveshark.com/#/playl[…]/Chillax/40200536 |
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libsysguy |
rangi: so i guess that is all i had to say |
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libsysguy |
does that sound dooable without breaking everything |
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rangi |
yup it does |
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rangi |
but |
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libsysguy |
uh oh |
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rangi |
to be nicer, you could add it as a config option in the koha-conf.xml |
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rangi |
in the ldap section |
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libsysguy |
i can do that soo |
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Brooke |
oh crap, cat's gonna disown me! |
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libsysguy |
do you happen to know what ldap search returns |
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rangi |
nope |
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libsysguy |
dang |
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libsysguy |
i didn't see it in the doc |
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rangi |
id write a little script |
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rangi |
that does it, and uses Data::Dumper |
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rangi |
to dump the return |
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libsysguy |
not a bad idea |
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libsysguy |
thanks rangi |
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rangi |
np |
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libsysguy |
if i wanted to warn or print STDERR from inside Auth_with_ldap would I have to have debugging on? |
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libsysguy |
if so how do I set that |
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libsysguy |
because I'm not seeing either in koha-dev/var/log/ |
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rangi |
try the main apache error log |
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rangi |
in /var/log/apache2 |
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rangi |
sometimes it warns in there |
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libsysguy |
hmm its not in error.log |
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cait |
hi magnuse |
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magnuse |
guten abend cait & #koha |
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rangi |
hi melia |
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rangi |
doh |
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rangi |
magnuse: |
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rangi |
tab completion fail |
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magnuse |
:-) |
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magnuse |
lazy rangi thinks one letter is enough... ;-) |
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rangi |
:) |
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cait |
hehe |
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bencahill |
wizzyrea: ping |
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* wizzyrea |
looks around furtively |
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wizzyrea |
yes? |
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bencahill |
lol |
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bencahill |
wizzyrea: it's been running for 5:18, 2k items ?? |
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wizzyrea |
on a slow server, our 700k took over 24 hours |
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wizzyrea |
so it really could take a very long time |
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bencahill |
wizzyrea: what's slow? this is a p4 2.4 with 256MB ram, an ide hdd |
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wizzyrea |
that's slow |
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bencahill |
'k :-P |
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rangi |
a p4 ? |
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bencahill |
yup |
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wizzyrea |
256MB of RAM |
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rangi |
dude 1999 called, it wants its hardware back |
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wizzyrea |
^^ |
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bencahill |
lol, I saw that coming |
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rangi |
:) |
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bencahill |
wizzyrea: we're replacing it with one that has 1GB of ram...this is just a small lib |
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wizzyrea |
99 might be a little harsh |
| 21:13 |
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wizzyrea |
2001 at least ;) |
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rangi |
:) |
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bencahill |
actually probably (realistically) probably more like 2004-5...p4 wasn't that long ago ;) |
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bencahill |
anywho, should I worry about these messages? |
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bencahill |
Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2796. |
| 21:15 |
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rangi |
you can ignore those, at least you know its still doing something :) |
| 21:15 |
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bencahill |
ok :) |
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bencahill |
just for curiosity, why does the process take so long? |
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rhcl |
w/ 256mb of ram it's probably swapping |
| 21:19 |
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rangi |
parsing xml is slow |
| 21:20 |
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wizzyrea |
^^ |
| 21:20 |
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rangi |
and that too |
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wizzyrea |
you have other stuff running on this box? |
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bencahill |
rhcl: htop only shows 140MB ram being used (-buffers/cache) |
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rangi |
what is the cpu usage? |
| 21:20 |
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bencahill |
wizzyrea: not right now...it has a light X install so it can be used to manage koha as well, but not running right now |
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bencahill |
rangi: htop is showing around 20-30% |
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pianohacker |
Hello |
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wahanui |
privet, pianohacker |
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rangi |
i suspect I/O bound then |
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bencahill |
rangi: most likely...I'm not physically next to it though, so I can't check (unless there's an app for that...iotop?) |
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hdl1 |
hi pianohacker |
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wizzyrea |
well yea, on p4 hardware and IDE disks |
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cait |
hi pianohacker :) |
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wizzyrea |
whaddup PH |
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pianohacker |
Hey liz |
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pianohacker |
and cait and hdl1 |
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bencahill |
rangi: it appears there are on average 3-4 mysqld threads writing at 200KB/s each..no telling about random access, so... |
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bencahill |
rangi: total disk write per sec varies from 800K to 4M |
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bencahill |
at least it's doing something :-P |
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wizzyrea |
^^ take a nap |
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wizzyrea |
;) |
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bencahill |
or just do something else ;) |
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bencahill |
and exit the screen session |
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* bencahill |
loves screen |
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rhcl |
bencahill: do you see the processes building up time in the ps table? |
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magnuse |
g'night #koha |
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cait |
g'night #koha |
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wizzyrea |
gnite cait and magnuse :) |
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cait |
:) |
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bencahill |
rhcl: yes |
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bencahill |
rhcl: largest is 1hr, 25min |
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nengard |
hey all, i am getting a report error and i don't know why - anyone have any pointers? |
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nengard |
select b.budget_name, sum(format(o.unitprice,2)) as "unitprice total", sum(o.rrp), sum(o.ecost), i.homebranch from aqorders o left join aqorders_items ai using (ordernumber) left join items i using (itemnumber) left join aqbudgets b using (budget_id) left join biblio bib on (bib.biblionumber=i.biblionumber) group by b.budget_name, i.homebranch where o.quantityreceived > 0 |
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rangi |
does it run in mysql? |
| 21:39 |
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nengard |
no |
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nengard |
give me an error |
| 21:40 |
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nengard |
ERROR 1064 (42000): |
| 21:40 |
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rangi |
thats syntax error |
| 21:40 |
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nengard |
up |
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nengard |
yup |
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rangi |
2 secs ill read it |
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rangi |
you cant do a where after a group by |
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wizzyrea |
where o.quantityreceived > '0' |
| 21:41 |
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wizzyrea |
and that |
| 21:41 |
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rangi |
put that before the group by |
| 21:41 |
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rangi |
and you dont need the '' |
| 21:41 |
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wizzyrea |
hrmph. |
| 21:41 |
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rangi |
if quantityreceived is an integer field |
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rangi |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
:P doesn't do it justice quite. |
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nengard |
when i did it the other way i got the same error |
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rangi |
well you can never have where after group by |
| 21:42 |
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rangi |
so that will never work ;) |
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nengard |
it was a space |
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nengard |
i think |
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rangi |
works for me in mysql |
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nengard |
you were right rangi, but the error was there when i tried it the other way before - cause of a space character - or a fluke |
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wizzyrea |
there was a fish in there?! |
| 21:43 |
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* wizzyrea |
teases |
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wizzyrea |
(she's gonna hit me, I just know it) |
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Agent_Dani |
heh |
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Agent_Dani |
Right, I've created enough mischief (Nagios disk monitoring, actually,) at work for one day; time for dinner with my wife then home! |
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nengard |
not gonna hit you |
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nengard |
too weak to fight ;) |
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nengard |
k - thanks all |
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nengard |
will be back after dinner |
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bencahill |
wizzyrea: YAY! it appears to have finished :) |
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bencahill |
wizzyrea: should I run rebuild_nozebra.pl now? |
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bencahill |
I don't think I'm using zebra...can't remember, how do I check? |
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rangi |
you should use zebra |
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rangi |
nozebra isnt supported in 3.4.x |
| 22:09 |
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rangi |
it might work, but no guarantees |
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bencahill |
rangi: ah...what should I do to enable/set it up? |
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rangi |
you will need to make sure the systempreference is set |
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bencahill |
rangi: where is that? |
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wahanui |
that is the problem |
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rangi |
and then read the INSTALL file for your distro |
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rangi |
in searching probably |
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bencahill |
rangi: I mean, is it in a file, or I need to change it via the backend? |
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bencahill |
s/I need/do I need/ |
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rangi |
no in the systempreferences |
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bencahill |
rangi: ok, I haven't tried accessing koha since upgrading, lemme try it |
| 22:12 |
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bencahill |
rangi: it brings me to an update db page, will that link do the same thing I already did all over again? |
| 22:12 |
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bencahill |
that is, remove_items_from_biblioitems |
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rangi |
no |
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bencahill |
ok, so do that? |
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rangi |
yes |
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bencahill |
rangi: is this the upgradeitems.pl script it's running now? |
| 22:13 |
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rangi |
no |
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bencahill |
oh I see it now |
| 22:13 |
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bencahill |
two errors, |
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bencahill |
DBD::mysql::db do failed: Duplicate column name 'privacy' at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl line 3998. |
| 22:14 |
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bencahill |
^^ twice |
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bencahill |
anything to worry about? |
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rangi |
nope that will be fine |
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bencahill |
okay, cool |
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bencahill |
great to see that it's still working :) |
| 22:16 |
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bencahill |
rangi: ok, so change NoZebra to 'Use'? |
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rangi |
yes |
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bencahill |
rangi: anything to do with NoZebraIndexes? |
| 22:17 |
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rangi |
no leave those as they are |
| 22:17 |
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bencahill |
ok |
| 22:17 |
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bencahill |
rangi: ok, saved...is there anything else I need to do manually, or it's all good to go? |
| 22:17 |
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rangi |
theres lots to do |
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bencahill |
hehe, ok :) |
| 22:17 |
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rangi |
take a look at teh INSTALL file for your distro |
| 22:17 |
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rangi |
on setting up zebra |
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bencahill |
rangi: I'm using arch...there's a build script for it, which did it all automatically... |
| 22:18 |
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rangi |
no the bit about setting it up with koha |
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bencahill |
I'll take a look at the deb install file |
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rangi |
setting up up the cron job, and the init.d script etc |
| 22:19 |
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rangi |
and rebuilding_zebra.pl etc |
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bencahill |
rangi: I mean that there's a package for koha in arch (it's just not in the repos, you have to download the PKGBUILD script) |
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rangi |
yes, but does it set up the cronjob to run rebuild_zebra? |
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bencahill |
rangi: no |
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bencahill |
rangi: just adapt the section "run the Zebra process as a daemon (automatic indexing)" to fit? |
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bencahill |
(in INSTALL.debian, that is) |
| 22:23 |
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rangi |
no set it up with the cronjob instead |
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rangi |
but the first thing you need to do |
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rangi |
is make sure zebrasrv is running |
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rangi |
and that you have done a rebuild_zebra.pl -r |
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bencahill |
ok, lemme make a daemon file for zebrasrv... |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build 381 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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bencahill |
rangi: when I run zebrasrv, I get [fatal] Failed to read config `zebra.cfg'... |
| 22:37 |
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rangi |
how are you running it? |
| 22:37 |
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bencahill |
rangi: there are example config files (one for marcxml and one for marc21, and some more) in /usr/share/idzebra-2.0-examples |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bumping database version <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]742d9d1e847fd0ca5> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'kc/new/bug_4002' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]64a0ddef76c7e613e> / bug_4002: issues referential integrity <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c9592592c0bd6c529 |
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bencahill |
rangi: just zebrasrv -D |
| 22:37 |
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rangi |
yeah thats not the way |
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bencahill |
rangi: there's no zebra.cfg in /usr/share/koha |
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rangi |
take a look at the script for doing it under debian |
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bencahill |
rangi: ok, sec |
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rangi |
misc/bin/koha-zebra-ctl.sh |
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bencahill |
rangi: oh yeah, I shoulda looked at that :P |
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rangi |
:) |
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bencahill |
rangi: the script fails, because I don't have a 'daemon' exec :-/ |
| 22:41 |
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rangi |
yeah, you'll have to use whatever tools arch uses, but that gives you the idea |
| 22:41 |
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bencahill |
rangi: gotcha |
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rangi |
the trick is, make sure what ever user runs zebrasrv |
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rangi |
is the same user that runs rebuild_zebra.pl |
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rangi |
and if you look in misc |
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bencahill |
rangi: ah |
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rangi |
cronjobs |
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rangi |
there is a crontab.example |
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bencahill |
rangi: ok |
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rangi |
libsysguy: you still about? |
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libsysguy |
i am indeed |
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libsysguy |
cursing LDAP |
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rangi |
heh |
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rangi |
so that error with hourly loans, only occurs in dropbox mode? |
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libsysguy |
yes it does |
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libsysguy |
at least that is the only place I've found it |
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rangi |
righto will see if i can do a fix for that |
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nengard |
libsysguy, you gonna sign off on partial payments? |
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bencahill |
rangi: is it fine for root to run zebrasrv, or should I have koha run it? |
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libsysguy |
yeah I was looking into doing a fix but I got tied up with this login business |
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nengard |
i was gonna test your sign off |
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libsysguy |
as soon as I get logins working I was going to patch it and test on master |
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libsysguy |
I figured it would be bad form to patch on an awaiting_qa branch |
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libsysguy |
:p |
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rangi |
no, thats fine, you can send a patch based on that branch |
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libsysguy |
oh really |
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rangi |
it just needs to be noted as such |
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libsysguy |
ohh gotcha...well I have a test server that is based on master that I just stood up today |
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libsysguy |
so if its better to do it that way I most certainly can |
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rangi |
if ($dropbox_branch) { |
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rangi |
my $calendar = Koha->new( branchcode => $dropbox_branch ); |
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rangi |
you wont be able to |
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libsysguy |
nengard, sorry for the delay...I promise im not intentionally dragging my feet |
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rangi |
that line doesnt exist in master ;) |
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eythian |
bencahill: it's preferable to have koha run it |
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nengard |
libsysguy, surely wasn't thinking that |
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libsysguy |
ahh rangi |
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eythian |
I don't think it'll break, but it's better practice. |
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libsysguy |
so is there something I did wrong rangi...or was it actually a bug? |
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rangi |
its just missing ::Calendar |
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rangi |
2 secs will fix and push |
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bencahill |
eythian: ok, so I can just add -u KOHAUID to zebrasrv? |
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libsysguy |
cool much appreciated |
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eythian |
bencahill: not sure, my scripts use the daemon command to launch it, that makes it overall more useful. |
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bencahill |
eythian: ok, thanks |
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eythian |
bencahill: see debian/scripts/koha-start-zebra for how it's done there. |
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eythian |
you can probably adapt that. |
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bencahill |
eythian: yes, that's what I've done...arch just doesn't use a daemon command like debian systems |
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eythian |
ah, odd. I would have thought it would. |
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bencahill |
eythian: arch is extremely simple in philosophy...so the less 'stuff', the better |
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bencahill |
:-) |
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bencahill |
rangi: so I've got zebrasrv as a nice daemon now...so run rebuild_zebra.pl now? |
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rangi |
yup with -r -b -a -v |
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eythian |
bencahill: I'm a big fan of having all the stuff that makes things easy ;) |
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rangi |
libsysguy: updated |
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libsysguy |
just saw that |
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libsysguy |
All the library staff left at 5 so I may test in the morning if that is ok |
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is afraid of the circulation desk |
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bencahill |
eythian: I'm a big fan of not being all confused ;) |
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libsysguy1 |
grr flaky interwebz |
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bencahill |
off to dinner... |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #381: SUCCESS in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/381/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* christophe.croullebois: Bug 6116: Adding a child patron |
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jenkins_koha |
* brice.sanchez: Bug 5713 :debug calculation when fines are reversed then re-payed |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6116 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, julian.maurice, ASSIGNED , Adding child patron: library not set |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5713 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, brice.sanchez, ASSIGNED , Intranet - Circulation - Fines : debug calculation when fines are reversed then re-payed |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build 382 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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bg |
bug 6727 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6727 critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, can't import frameworks |
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libsysguy |
so I fixed our ldap issue but im not sure if I want to commit it because I'm pretty sure nobody has as messed up of an LDAP setup as we do :p |
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bencahill |
rangi: when I run that, it all looks good, but I see this at the end: [fatal] Could not select database biblios errCode=109 |
