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Judit |
good morning |
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Judit |
i almost asked something very stupid, but just typing it in helped |
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Judit |
thank you |
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Judit |
i guess |
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Judit |
:) |
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* jcamins_away |
considers taking credit for that. |
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jcamins_away |
:D |
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Judit |
:D |
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rangi |
@quote random |
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huginn |
rangi: Quote #32: "<wizzyrea> oh, things are not right in the world .... oh good, that makes me feel better. it's just the govt" (added by jdavidb at 01:56 PM, September 09, 2009) |
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wizzyrea |
lolwut |
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rangi |
heh |
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rangi |
speaking of |
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rangi |
http://www.businessinsider.com[…]employment-2011-8 |
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wizzyrea |
gurg |
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rangi |
@quote random |
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huginn |
rangi: Quote #89: "<owen> We defy stereotypes: We're not afraid of commitment!" (added by jwagner at 04:32 PM, August 19, 2010) |
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BrookeenTauride |
kia ora! |
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rangi |
hi BrookeenTauride |
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BrookeenTauride |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
hey there |
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* BrookeenTauride |
feels hearted. |
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Oak |
Hello BrookeenTauride :) |
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Oak |
Hello #koha |
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BrookeenTauride |
hey hey LD |
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Oak |
:] |
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BrookeenTauride |
how goes it? |
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Oak |
going fine it :) it's the month of Ramadan |
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BrookeenTauride |
Indeed! |
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Oak |
yup |
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* BrookeenTauride |
cooked for a friend for Ramadan once. |
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BrookeenTauride |
it was pathetic. He'd start circling at sunsetish, and was looking for McDonalds. That could not stand. |
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Oak |
ah, :) and you offered to cook. what did you make? |
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cait |
hi 'koha |
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mtj |
heya cait |
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mtj |
interesting... |
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wahanui |
interesting is good |
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mtj |
http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux[…]764b170b8;hb=HEAD |
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cait |
hi mtj :) |
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Oak |
cait |
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cait |
Oak |
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cait |
interesting link mtj |
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magnus_away is now known as magnuse |
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magnuse |
kia ora #koha |
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mtj |
my little 'stars' thingy is nearly ready for 3.6 submitting.... |
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magnuse |
yay! |
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mtj |
http://head.kohaaloha.com/cgi-[…]c-search.pl?q=the |
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mtj |
yo magnuse |
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magnuse |
hiya mtj |
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magnuse |
o/ |
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mtj |
'How to Get Your Change Into the Linux Kernel |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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wahanui |
hola, alex_a |
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mtj |
or |
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mtj |
Care And Operation Of Your Linus Torvalds' |
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magnuse |
:-) |
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mtj |
now thats funny :p |
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magnuse |
yeah! |
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cait |
hehe |
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cait |
morning magnus :) |
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cait |
bonjour alex_a |
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Oak |
bonjour alex_a :) |
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magnuse |
hiya cait, alex_a, Oak |
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magnuse |
catalyst++ |
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cait |
hm? |
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eythian |
We've been discussion putting translations into packages, I guess that's what he's referring to. And now magnuse has been given work to have a look at and test. |
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eythian |
*discussing. |
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magnuse |
spot on! |
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cait |
catalyst++ then :) |
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magnuse |
difinitli! |
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eythian |
I have a Srdjan that I can delegate such work to, it's pretty handy :) |
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magnuse |
sounds nice! |
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magnuse |
srdjan++ |
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eythian |
I dare you to ask him about using 'if' in Perl code one day. |
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magnuse |
hehe? |
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cait |
? |
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eythian |
he's morally opposed to it. |
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eythian |
which makes his code an interesting read. |
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mtj |
'Care And Operation Of Your Srdjan' |
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* magnuse |
chuckles |
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eythian |
heh |
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mtj |
eythian: hes an UNLESS kinda guy? |
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eythian |
I don't think so, that's more or less the same thing |
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eythian |
I think it's more that your program should be designed such that it doesn't require it. |
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magnuse |
yeah, that sounds like cheating... |
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mtj |
gosh, i am a little curious about the 'if' thing.....?!?! |
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cait |
lol |
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mtj |
what's his better alternative? |
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eythian |
well, for example, if you do dynamic programming kinda stuff, you end up minimising your use a lot. Subs are put into hashtables for lookup as needed and so forth. I find myself doing that a lot. |
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eythian |
http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]ds/waitaki_import <-- e.g. the whole dispatch thing in this code |
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eythian |
(although that's my code, and I don't follow the religion too closely) |
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cait |
ugh |
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cait |
ok, time to run to work |
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cait |
bye |
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eythian |
are you ugh'ing at my code :( |
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eythian |
cya :) |
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cait |
only wondering if I will get there one day ;) |
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eythian |
heh |
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* magnuse |
wouldn't think that was what cait was doing... |
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magnuse |
eythian: do you think there is much work to do before the trnalsations can be generalized into a loop sort of thing? |
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eythian |
I have no idea, I'm in the last stages of a migration, and so haven't had time to look at it at all |
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magnuse |
ok, cool |
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magnuse |
i'll try and get the time to give the branch a spin later today and see what i find, and report back |
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eythian |
Srdjan wanted me to have a look, but I suggested he let you have a look, given I won't have time for a while. |
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eythian |
sure thing |
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magnuse |
i really need to put in some hours on something else first, but i might not be able to keep myself from it... |
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* eythian |
is preparing for a long night, this all has to be reading tomorrow morning (so, before I leave.) |
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eythian |
*ready |
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eythian |
seriously, my typing today is broken |
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eythian |
hehe |
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magnuse |
heh |
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magnuse |
good luck! you can do it! |
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eythian |
Of course I can, I don't have a choice ;) |
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magnuse |
that's the spirit! ;-) |
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julian |
hello #koha |
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clrh |
hi |
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wahanui |
hello, clrh |
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kf |
back |
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magnuse |
bonjour biblibre |
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magnuse |
kia ora paul_p - i hope bug 6537 is ready for signoff now... |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6537 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , Simplified sysprefs for the web installer |
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paul_p |
hi magnuse |
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paul_p |
yep, i've seen. |
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kf |
magnuse++ |
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paul_p |
during the week end I had another idea about that : |
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paul_p |
why not put all (new) syspref in a syspref directory, to have a separate file for each. atm, each time a syspref is added, other patches also adding a syspref have a rebase that fails due to the change commited. With a separate file for each, this problem disappear, it's easier for developers to add a new patch ! |
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kf |
but harder to get a complete list or reload the database |
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kf |
perhaps slower too? |
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magnuse |
the files would be sql? |
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magnuse |
if so any deterioration in speed would only affect the installer |
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kf |
true |
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magnuse |
well it sounds good to me - anything that makes development easier... |
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kf |
I am not sure the hassle of having a lot of files is worth the gain |
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magnuse |
hm, why would it be a hassle? |
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kf |
lots and lots of files |
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paul_p |
kf, about the "slowness" that's really a little |
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kf |
all having the licence stuff ahead and a little bit of text somewhere |
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magnuse |
about 300 at the moment, if there was one per syspref |
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paul_p |
We could also have a large syspref.sql done by the RM just before each release. |
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kf |
if you are searching for something in that directory it coudl get hard |
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paul_p |
foreach (sysprefs/*.sql) { mysql koha <sql-file) } would work for any size = 1 syspref per file or 300 ! |
| 07:54 |
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paul_p |
(we could also have a file per module (opac.sql / cataloguing.sql / ...) or whatever look handy |
| 07:56 |
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paul_p |
but well, magnuse what you've made is already a good improvement i'll try to test today |
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kf |
I agree that there is no good argument against |
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magnuse |
paul_p: great! |
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kf |
just feels wrong somehow to me |
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kf |
have to think about it |
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mtj |
paul_p++ |
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paul_p |
mtj, ??? |
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mtj |
i was thinking something similar, this weekend too |
| 08:02 |
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magnuse |
great minds think alike, eh? |
| 08:02 |
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mtj |
'why not put all (new) syspref in a syspref directory' |
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kf |
hehe - I give up :) |
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mtj |
well, i was thinking about separate updatedatabase.pl files |
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mtj |
but the problem (and solution) is the same |
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rangi |
not so much |
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rangi |
its harder with updatedatabase.pl |
| 08:14 |
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rangi |
because often order does matter |
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* magnuse |
was just thinking that |
| 08:34 |
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paul_p |
rangi++ => we can't use this for updatedatabase because order matters. |
| 08:34 |
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paul_p |
rangi, have you seen my comment/question on #5786 ? |
| 08:34 |
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paul_p |
(hello rangi) |
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rangi |
yep, havent had any time to do anything about it |
| 08:35 |
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paul_p |
you wanted to do what ? |
| 08:36 |
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rangi |
read it and answer |
| 08:36 |
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paul_p |
mtj, iirc, we spoke a something like a matrix to keep track of what has been done in updatedatabase, but that would mean huge changes in how we deal with updates, and until now, no-one started to do anything about that. Maybe for 4.0, but that will require a lot of coordination/preparation |
| 08:36 |
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paul_p |
rangi, OK |
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paul_p |
rangi, just FYI= at the end of the week, it's holiday (2 weeks AFK) for me |
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paul_p |
( just for those curious, I go here : http://www.saint-avit-loisirs.[…]98490326a9a68b55/ ) |
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* magnuse |
feels sorry for paul_p ;-) |
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magnuse |
nah, not really |
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* paul_p |
feel unlucky too :D |
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kf |
vacation - again? |
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kf |
;) |
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kf |
and evening rangi :) |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6679] Fixing code so it passes basic Perl::Critic tests <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6679> |
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rangi |
hi kf |
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magnuse |
anyone know how to get a "request to pull" from github to the koha-patches list? i'm pretty sure i have done it before... |
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rangi |
yes |
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rangi |
you can either just send a mail with the subject line request to pull |
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rangi |
or you can use git to do it |
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rangi |
2 secs |
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magnuse |
ah, i didn't think about doing it from git, just from github... |
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rangi |
http://galencharlton.com/blog/[…]stories/#comments |
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rangi |
instead of my git repo, you would use github of course ;) |
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magnuse |
ah way cool! |
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rangi |
try it piped to a file first, make sure it looks ok, then do it piped to mailx :) |
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magnuse |
definitely ;-) |
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magnuse |
hm, how do i tell which branch to use? replace origin/master? |
| 09:54 |
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rangi |
thats the one you want to pull it into |
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rangi |
second one is pulling it from |
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magnuse |
http://www.kernel.org/pub/soft[…]request-pull.html |
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magnuse |
git request-pull [-p] <start> <url> [<end>] |
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rangi |
yep |
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magnuse |
where <start> = Commit to start at. |
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rangi |
so thats origin/master (or kc/master or whatever you called the master branch of koha-community) |
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magnuse |
ah, the branch i'm on is significant, of course |
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rangi |
then the url is of the repo to pull from |
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rangi |
yeah |
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* magnuse |
is a little slow today, much like the cloning from the catalyst git repo ;-) |
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magnuse |
should the url be for the repo or the branch? |
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rangi |
cant remember, try it and see :) |
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magnuse |
will do ;-) |
| 10:03 |
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magnuse |
that looks about right, i think: http://paste.koha-community.org/4 |
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rangi |
looks good to me |
| 10:04 |
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magnuse |
and that's good enough for me! ;-) |
| 10:04 |
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rangi |
cept i pushed 6534 since then, but thats ok, it'll still merge fine |
| 10:05 |
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magnuse |
hm, bug 6534? |
| 10:05 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6534 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Duplicate opac renew buttons at the top of the checkouts list |
| 10:06 |
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rangi |
yup, pushed to master this morning, you might wanna do a git pull (or fetch/rebase) |
| 10:07 |
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rangi |
that request is fine though, it will still merge |
| 10:07 |
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magnuse |
hm, i don't see a conflict... |
| 10:07 |
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rangi |
theres no conflict |
| 10:07 |
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rangi |
just your request has the head at the 5660 push |
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magnuse |
ah, ok, sorry |
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rangi |
but that was just an observation, more than anything useful |
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magnuse |
heh |
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eythian |
magnuse: well, you're going to be pulling down all of Koha's history again. |
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eythian |
from about as far away in the world as it's possible to get. |
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magnuse |
eythian: yeah, i know... ;-) |
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rangi |
i hope someone tests those commits and signs off soon :) |
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kf |
:) |
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kf |
yum |
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druthb |
o/ |
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kf |
hi oleonard |
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kf |
:) |
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oleonard |
Hi |
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kf |
NateC? |
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wahanui |
I LIKE SPACE! |
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NateC |
HA! Morning kf |
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druthb |
kf? |
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wahanui |
kf is cait or really, really sweet. |
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druthb |
cait? |
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wahanui |
somebody said cait was kf or a programmer or really sweet or a source of great chocolate or the purveyor of an infinite supply of virtual cookies or not sure we need the page(s)... but that might just be me |
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druthb |
lol |
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* druthb |
fears....but... |
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druthb |
druthb? |
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wahanui |
you are currently convincing the amish that they need to web 2.0 or quite brilliant |
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druthb |
lol |
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kf |
hi NateC :) |
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paul_p |
ni NateC & druthb & wahanui |
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paul_p |
(I mean hi, of course) |
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paul_p |
hi wahanui |
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wahanui |
what's up, paul_p |
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paul_p |
wahanui, I just want to se your brilliant thoughts |
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wahanui |
paul_p: i'm not following you... |
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NateC |
Hi paul_p! |
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paul_p |
wahanui, nevermind, you're too brilliant... |
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wahanui |
paul_p: excuse me? |
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kf |
lol |
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kf |
paul_p botsnack cookie |
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kf |
;) |
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druthb |
hi, paul_p! |
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kf |
wahanui botsnack cookie |
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wahanui |
:) |
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druthb |
wahanui: botsnack fresh blackberries |
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wahanui |
thanks druthb :) |
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kf |
fresh blackberries? |
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oleonard |
http://www.google.com/search?q[…]d=ivnsue&tbm=isch |
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kf |
mean! |
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druthb |
We got some at the farm stand Saturday...yummy |
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oleonard |
Mean? |
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druthb |
kfsnack fresh blackberries |
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kf |
yeah... now I crave blackberries |
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kf |
yum |
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kf |
oleonard: but thx :) |
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kf |
cool |
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kf |
there is a recipe link in google |
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kf |
and you can drill down by cook time and ingredients! |
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kf |
and calories... |
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magnuse |
yeah, that is quite a nice feature! |
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magnuse |
facets... |
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gbengaadara |
Hello, this is Olugbenga Adara |
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magnuse |
hiya gbengaadara |
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gbengaadara |
Fine |
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gbengaadara |
Hanging out today on IRC |
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kf |
welcome |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 16.0�C (3:50 PM CEST on August 08, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.36 in 994 hPa (Steady). |
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druthb |
@wunder intercourse, PA |
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huginn |
druthb: The current temperature in http://www.nhpaweather.com, New Holland, Pennsylvania is 28.6�C (10:15 AM EDT on August 08, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 29.63 in 1003.3 hPa (Steady). |
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druthb |
it doesn't *feel* 28. Gorgeous day here. |
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magnuse |
28C sounds really hot... |
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druthb |
to you, it would, I s'pose, magnus. But I'm outside now, and it's very comfortable. |
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jcamins_away |
Good morning, #koha |
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druthb |
hi, jcamins. |
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druthb |
magnuse: we're expecting a high of 31C here today. |
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magnuse |
ouch... |
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druthb |
pssh. that's nothing. Dallas has had thirty-some days over over 37C weather---in a row! |
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magnuse |
2xouch! |
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* oleonard |
does a double-take on druthb's @wunder location |
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druthb |
hee hee hee |
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druthb |
we're actually in Bird-In-Hand, but there's no weather station there. |
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rhcl |
how many days worth of database backups is recommended to keep? |
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jcamins |
rhcl: at least a couple. |
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rhcl |
two days? I was thinking two weeks. |
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druthb |
I usually set things up for a week. |
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oleonard |
paul_p: I CC'ed you on Bug 6674 because I was hoping to get your comments |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6674 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Collapse display of patron address by default |
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paul_p |
oleonard, yep, just seen the mail. will answer soon |
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oleonard |
Thanks |
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jcamins |
rhcl: me, I keep about two weeks. But if you're asking, I assume you're desperate for space. No matter how desperate I was, I would never keep less than several days worth of backups. |
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rhcl |
No, we got lots of space. |
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jcamins |
Actually, I try to keep one week of dailies, eight weeks of weeklies, and a year of monthlies. |
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paul_p |
druthb, 3x days over 37°C ? wow !!! unbelievable... just to let you know: we probably have the coldest summer we've ever seen since years in Marseille. We switched on conditionned-air only 5 or 6 days until now... |
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jcamins |
paul_p: lucky. We haven't switched off the a/c since June. |
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paul_p |
crazy planet (and crazy human probably...) |
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druthb |
much of the US has been WAY hotter than usual. While I was in Philadelphia, they had several record-hot days |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6674] Collapse display of patron address by default <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6674> |
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druthb |
jcamins: oughta get away from all that pavement and concrete....I had to shut off my box fan in the middle of the night here last night...got *cold* |
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jcamins |
druthb: I'd love to! |
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oleonard |
"All 50 states saw record high temperatures in July" |
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oleonard |
http://news.yahoo.com/50-state[…]ly-173203227.html |
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jcamins |
Today I'm working at a client on Riverside Drive, which means I have to cross West End Avenue to get here from the subway. Naturally I have West End Avenue from Stephen Schwartz's Magic Show (I think that's the name of the show) stuck in my head. |
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jcamins |
(for those of you who don't know, West End Avenue is not a song that makes you think "gee, New York, what a great place to live!") |
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rhcl |
Kinda like Chicago and "The Night Chicago Died" ???? |
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jcamins |
I haven't heard that song, but based on the title, probably. |
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rhcl |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-L0NpaErkk |
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oleonard |
The questions on the list have got me thinking about the ShowReviewerPhoto preference. Is that working for anyone else? |
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* oleonard |
doesn't see is own avatar in his test system |
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rhcl |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T[…]ight_Chicago_Died |
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oleonard |
Oh wait, missing dependency. |
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jcamins |
eythian++ # the packages rock! |
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jcamins |
larsw++ # he did the original work on making Debian packages |
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oleonard |
What are UNIVERSAL::require and Net::Server used for? |
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* oleonard |
doesn't have those either |
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* magnus_afk |
agrees with jcamins, wholeheartedly! |
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magnus_afk |
srdjan++ # the packages rock! |
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jcamins |
Does anyone know of a way to force the 001 field to contain the biblionumber? |
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jcamins |
(short of remapping the biblionumber) |
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magnus_afk |
jcamins: not sure if comments on bug 6198 are relevant? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6198 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Use 001 (not biblionumber) as record identifier for OAI-PMH |
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kf |
jcamins: I think for marc21 it's not possible, but might be wrong |
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kf |
not sure how unimarc handles it |
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jcamins |
Darn. |
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gmcharlt |
good morning |
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gmcharlt |
jcamins: question about transliterated russian - does a ligature ever span more than two characters? |
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jcamins |
If I have a chance, maybe I'll write a cataloging plugin that will do that. |
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jcamins |
gmcharlt: Good morning. |
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jcamins |
Yes it does. |
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kf |
jcamins: that sounds like something useful :) i |
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gmcharlt |
jcamins: https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug[…]lay.html?id=38912 is why I ask |
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jcamins |
gmcharlt: wait, that's Old Church Slavonic. |
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jcamins |
So, not in Russian. |
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gmcharlt |
jcamins: would you happen to have any MARC records that have Old Church Slavonic vernacular? |
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jcamins |
No, I've never encountered a record in OCS. |
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jcamins |
I'm not even sure there are. |
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gmcharlt |
thanks |
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* jcamins |
consults the transliteration tables. |
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jcamins |
Ooh! Good news! They don't even use that iie ligature thing in the current tables! |
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jcamins |
So, there are never more than two characters under a ligature. |
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gmcharlt |
yay! |
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jcamins |
Ooh, so are you going to be fixing MARC::Charset to work with the double ligature, rather than the half ligatures? |
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gmcharlt |
jcamins: yep - the fix is already in MARC::Charset's Git, and I'll be cutting 1.34 once I fix the other pending bug |
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jcamins |
Woohoo! |
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jcamins |
gmcharlt++ |
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jcamins |
That's been bugging me for ages, but I didn't realize you were the person to report it to. |
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jcamins |
Has anyone else been getting a lot of lag from OFTC in the last few days? |
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gmcharlt |
jcamins: yep, it wasn't until a couple weeks ago that I took up edsu' mantle for that module |
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kf |
jcamins: no lag for me |
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jcamins |
kf: hm. I should move to Europe. :D |
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rhcl |
sometimes I get the impression jcamins must have impressive literary post-nominals. |
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jcamins |
rhcl: not yet. ;) Why do you get that impression, though? |
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rhcl |
Old Church Slavonic? Old Church Slavonic? Who ever heard of such a thing? And I could go back through your posts and pull out equally esoteric things relating to language, literature and history. |
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* jcamins |
would love to be FRS, FSA. :) |
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rhcl |
And I do consider myself fairly well exposed, albeit a dated exposure, to arcane tidbits of literature and history. |
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jcamins |
What can I say? I'm like a magnet for useless knowledge. |
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kf |
moving_to_europe++ ;) |
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kf |
extra cookies for moving to germany |
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kf |
FRS, FSA? |
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jcamins |
Fellow of the Royal Society, Fellow of the Society of Antiquaries. |
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kf |
what is required to be one? |
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jcamins |
I don't know. |
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rhcl |
I really need to think of some way to slip "Old Church Slavonic" into my conversation occasionally so people will think I'm like, really smart. |
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rhcl |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Church_Slavonic First two paragraphs are all I'd need to know. |
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jcamins |
rhcl: if you really want to impress people, talk about Old Occitan. |
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rhcl |
Ohhh, that sounds good too.... |
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jcamins |
rhcl: it requires more explanation though. |
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rhcl |
'cept I can't pronounce that one. |
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rhcl |
I'll bet some of wizzyrea's librarys are w/o power? http://www.kcpl.com/kcmaps/frameset_menus.htm One of my branches is dead in the water, I better run up there and see what I can do. |
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jcamins |
Yikes. |
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jcamins |
Heat? |
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rhcl |
There was a pretty violent storm south of KC yesterday apparently. But that doesn't explain the power being out way up in Savannah Missouri, where my branch is. |
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rhcl |
The past few days haven't been _all_that_ hot. |
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jcamins |
nengard: RIS could be labeled something like EndNote, but BibTeX is really just BibTeX. |
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jcamins |
That's the format you use when you use BibTeX. ;) |
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nengard |
got it |
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nengard |
repeating a complaint from a librarian :) hehe |
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nengard |
i also didn't know what bibtex was though |
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jcamins |
It's the bibliography software that works with LaTeX. Called BibTeX. |
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jcamins |
:) |
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jcamins |
Heavily used in math-based fields, not so much anywhere else. |
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nengard |
got it! |
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nengard |
that's why i don't know it - nicole does not know math :) hehe |
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oleonard |
Math is hard! |
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oleonard |
;) |
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jcamins |
BibTeX is pretty nifty. |
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kf |
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jcamins |
nengard: there are some graphical user interfaces to BibTeX, if you want to get an idea of what it does. There's even one written in Java. |
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jcamins |
I don't know what it's called. |
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jcamins |
nengard: JabRef. There's also BibDesk. And I think Refbase may actually use BibTeX internally. |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6681] When importing a biblio record via Z39.50, authority links also get imported <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6681> |
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jcamins |
Does anyone other than me still alphabetize o with an umlaut in with the 'oe's? |
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wizzyrea |
i can't say I've ever alphabetized anything with an umlaut |
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* jcamins |
should ask cait. |
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jcamins |
Welcome back, cait. |
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cait |
thx jared and hi all |
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jcamins |
cait: how do you alphabetize o-with-an-umlaut. |
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cait |
hm |
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jcamins |
s/\./?/ |
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cait |
let me think about that |
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cait |
you mean sorting for alphabetic order? |
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jcamins |
I've always alphabetized it with oe. |
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jcamins |
Yup. |
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nengard |
is there a way to do a count of another select? basically I want to write a report that tells me how many items each title has - so it shows title and then a count of items |
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cait |
I think I have seen this done differently |
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cait |
especially for card catalogs |
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cait |
let me try to find a source |
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jcamins |
nengard: why can't you do a group by biblionumber, then count(itemnumber)? |
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nengard |
i can :) needed some brain power assistance apparently |
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cait |
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/A[…]tische_Sortierung |
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cait |
it says there are 4 different ways to do it :P |
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wizzyrea |
do any of you know -- are "item returned" check in messages kept in the message queue? |
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wizzyrea |
or reflected in the messaging/notices tabs? |
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wizzyrea |
I don't see that they are |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 4893] Add an input field for Check In on main Staff Client page <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4893> |
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wizzyrea |
but then again I don' t know what an identifier for that type of message would be as I've never seen one |
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cait |
jcamins: i think you should google translate that part of wikipedia |
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jcamins |
cait: thanks. |
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jcamins |
I can figure out what it says. |
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cait |
jcamins: and decide what seems logical to you, I can also try to dig up the sort orders for cataloging |
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cait |
I think there was a difference between sorting for pi (old rules, preussische instruktionen) and rak |
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cait |
I can at least try to find out for rak |
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jcamins |
I'm probably going to use DIN 5007 Variant 2, because that seems the most logical, especially with old books. |
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cait |
ok |
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cait |
my rak textbook doesn't help me much |
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cait |
can't find something in the index and I am not familiar enough with it to guess where it might write about the sorting |
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jcamins |
That's okay. Thanks for your help. :) |
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cait |
you are welcome |
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paul_p |
nengard, you're really quick reading mails ;-) |
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nengard |
HA! |
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nengard |
I was in there at the right time :) |
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cait |
paul: I think chris sent a mail about the feature when we moved bugzilla |
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oleonard |
nengard and cait: Re: Bug 6260, why shouldn't we say "No copies available" when there are items with unavailable statuses? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6260 trivial, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW , Missing space in availability information of OPAC XSLT results |
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cait |
I think you can probably use git bz to open bugs too |
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cait |
oleonard: let me read the bug |
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cait |
:) |
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nengard |
oleonard, i'm actually okay with it saying no items and on hold at the same time |
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nengard |
it jsut seemed a bit confusing |
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paul_p |
cait, I remember something about that but can't find it |
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paul_p |
was it a mail or wiki or IRC ? |
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paul_p |
(too many sources...) |
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cait |
mail |
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cait |
I think |
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cait |
http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Bugzilla |
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cait |
or wiki... google++ :) |
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cait |
no I get xp, right? :P |
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paul_p |
cait, I don't think so cait: this is what is written on bugzilla doc page. What i'm looking for is the email_in.pl script |
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paul_p |
(I could write one by myself though, but if it's already done...) |
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jcamins |
paul_p: that's the instructions for sending e-mail to the Koha Bugzilla instance. |
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jcamins |
What does email_in.pl do, exactly? |
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paul_p |
mmm... you may be right jcamins... seems i made a mistake. email_in is the server part of dealing with emails... |
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paul_p |
not the "reporter" part... |
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paul_p |
OK, forget my question, it was stupid ;-) |
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cait |
so I get the xp? ;) |
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* jcamins |
thinks so. |
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jcamins |
Hm. I think Equinox had a transitory network glitch. |
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paul_p |
cait, OK, take the XP ;-) |
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* paul_p |
leaves, time to go back home |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6260] Missing space in availability information of OPAC XSLT results <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6260> |
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wizzyrea |
gmcharlt, quick q |
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wizzyrea |
where are the patron messaging preferences kept? |
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cait |
oh |
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cait |
in 3 tables |
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cait |
it's a bit insane |
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wizzyrea |
lawd, ok |
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jcamins |
A bit? |
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jcamins |
Very, I'd say. |
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cait |
ok, kind of |
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wizzyrea |
where is the data that is reflected by the tickboxes on the edit patron screen kept |
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cait |
you now it is relational |
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cait |
but sometimes relational to the last normalization form is not what is easy |
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cait |
wizzyrea: give me a sec |
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wizzyrea |
oh dear |
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wizzyrea |
i just stepped in it didn't i |
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cait |
what do you wnat to do? if I may ask? |
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jcamins |
Yes, I get that it's relational, but it's been normalized strangely and the way to modify the mappings is to *delete* the previous ones, and create new ones. |
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cait |
I have some sql on my wiki... |
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wizzyrea |
I want to see the flags |
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cait |
jcamins: that's the thing that really bugs me too |
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cait |
assigning new numbers all the time |
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cait |
the pk goes up very high very quickly |
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wizzyrea |
to know how many patrons have the 'item check in' notice picked |
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cait |
ok |
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wizzyrea |
as an option |
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jcamins |
I'm going to have lunch now. BRB |
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wizzyrea |
good call :P |
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wizzyrea |
lunch. I like it |
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wizzyrea |
but i'll wait for a few :0 |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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cait |
first you get the mesage attribute id from the table message_transports |
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wizzyrea |
k, so 6 in this case |
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wizzyrea |
5, actually |
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* wizzyrea |
can't read |
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cait |
and then you check borrower_message_preferences |
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wizzyrea |
AHA |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
might be that you need to check the borrowernumber is in borrower_message_transport_preferences too |
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wizzyrea |
it is |
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cait |
because I am not sure what happens when someon says don't knotify |
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wizzyrea |
whoooooa |
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wizzyrea |
yea that is more than a little insane |
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wizzyrea |
ooo kay |
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* cait |
is not guilty of that |
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wizzyrea |
cait, you're a lifesaver |
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wizzyrea |
cait++ |
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cait |
I have been there... |
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wizzyrea |
you get exp for that :) |
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cait |
the first 2 times I updated 200 patrons manually because I forgot to set the message preferences on the categories... |
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cait |
before importing the datea |
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wizzyrea |
argle bargle |
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cait |
after that I learned to read the tables |
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wizzyrea |
um yea |
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cait |
yay xp |
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cait |
oleonard: about bug 6260: not sure about that now |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6260 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Missing space in availability information of OPAC XSLT results |
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cait |
and wonder why I never wrote the patch to fix the missing space! |
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nengard |
well it's fixed now :) |
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nengard |
and signed off |
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wahanui |
signed off is approval |
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nengard |
well yes it is :) |
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cait |
:) |
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druthb |
wahanui: botsnack small annoying child, wrapped in duct tape |
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wahanui |
thanks druthb :) |
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* druthb |
laughs evilly |
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wizzyrea |
oh no, more annoying children? |
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druthb |
naaah...just reminiscing. |
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* nengard |
told druthb that this is one of the reasons i love my single home with big thinck walls all around |
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nengard |
my old house was a twin with thin walls and monsters living on the other side of the wall |
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cait |
lol |
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jcamins |
Ah, thin walls and monsters. |
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jcamins |
The story of life in New York for the non-fabulously wealthy. |
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wizzyrea |
monsters? |
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jcamins |
On the other side of thin walls, yes. |
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jcamins |
Or thin ceilings. |
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wizzyrea |
shouty people |
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jcamins |
I don't know... I'm going to have to go with "monsters." People can't generally manage the sort of volume one encounters. ;) |
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wizzyrea |
wow that's something |
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jcamins |
Actually, it's been a lot better recently, knock on wood. |
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nengard |
wizzyrea in my instance the monsters were children |
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nengard |
children with parents who didn't know how to raise children |
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wizzyrea |
ah yea |
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wizzyrea |
parent fail |
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wizzyrea |
though sometimes you just can't keep em quiet |
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jcamins |
Though kids would be also irritate me to know end, I think I've come to the conclusion that screaming adults are worse. |
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jcamins |
Especially since screaming adults are _always_ violent. |
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wizzyrea |
well there's certainly a lot less joyful screeching from adults. |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6682] open library is two words <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6682> |
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gadara |
hi |
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wahanui |
salut, gadara |
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cait |
hi gadara |
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* jcamins |
makes a note to replace Koha's MARC editor with a textbox. |
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* jcamins |
once again hit the impossible-to-replicate "click and the editor spontaneously wigs out and erases all your changes" bug. |
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rangi |
pianohacker did that already |
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rangi |
(the text box) |
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jcamins |
rangi: yeah, I know. |
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cait |
morning rangi |
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jcamins |
But the patch requires rebasing. |
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* cait |
shares cookies with koha |
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rangi |
morning |
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cait |
I have solved the karnaugh-veitch-diagram riddle |
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rangi |
Hehe good |
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cait |
yep :) |
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rangi |
new public library system goes live today |
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cait |
very cool :) |
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cait |
good luck! |
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* cait |
is forced to install adobe reader in ubuntu |
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cait |
because the elearning modul uses pdf forms :( |
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rangi |
thats now 5 systems, and a total of 19 libraries .. with another system and 3 libs on the way |
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rangi |
the publics are finally catching up to the other libraries in nz |
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rangi |
really? |
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rangi |
what is it? blackboard? |
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cait |
no, they have their own system |
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rangi |
ahh |
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cait |
but this is something from the tutur |
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cait |
tutor - so not the platforms fault |
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rangi |
right |
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cait |
very good numbers :) |
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cait |
do you have academic libraries too? or mostly public? |
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rangi |
mostly special/corporate/govt |
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rangi |
there are only 6 universities in nz |
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rangi |
but 3 of them are in a consortia |
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rangi |
and use voyager and are looking to move, they have 2 years left on contract |
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rangi |
but came to the users group |
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rangi |
so thats promising |
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cait |
cool :) |
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rangi |
doing some training for ppl in Fiji and papua new guinea too, its spreading in the pacific |
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cait |
:) |
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rangi |
bg? |
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wahanui |
I LIKE BREAKFAST BURRITOS AND I LOVE BASEBALL |
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cait |
rangi? |
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wahanui |
I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS! |
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bg |
@wunder 93109 |
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huginn |
bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 20.7�C (1:11 PM PDT on August 08, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Steady). |
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rangi |
bg: Melia start today? |
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bg |
yup - but she doesn't have inet yet |
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rangi |
ahh |
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rangi |
eek my stop bbiab |
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rangi |
back |
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oleonard |
Gone |
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rangi |
interesting |
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wahanui |
somebody said interesting was sometimes bad |
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rangi |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]als_for_KohaCon12 |
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wizzyrea |
interesting is also sometimes good |
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wahanui |
okay, wizzyrea. |
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wizzyrea |
interesting |
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wahanui |
i guess interesting is good |
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rangi |
bywater partners, so use Koha |
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* bg |
wonders if I'm up for planning one here… But I think I'll wait a few years |
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* bg |
actually votes to have it on a cruise-ship in international waters |
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rangi |
heh |
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rangi |
i need a norwegian |
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rangi |
ah google works |
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rangi |
https://www.facebook.com/perma[…]2&id=110331970241 |
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rhcl |
come on bg, wizzy and I will help you out. |
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rangi |
heh |
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rhcl |
I'll demmo my Cherry Bomb Server for small libraries. http://www.newegg.com/Product/[…]m=N82E16811112267 |
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cait |
ok - time to sleep - good night all |
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wizzyrea |
gnite cait |
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rhcl |
night night |
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rhcl |
The second review w/ numbered points is mine, IUGAH. |
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rangi |
reno is like vegas junior right? |
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rhcl |
huh, kinda sorta. why? I was in reno about a year ago |
| 20:43 |
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rangi |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]als_for_KohaCon12 |
| 20:43 |
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rhcl |
much more pedestrian--the gambling isn't nearly as "in-your-face" as Vegas, much smaller city, |
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rangi |
right |
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rhcl |
seems a lot of the flights originating from the Eastern US have to fly to California then back to Reno, but that's subject to the whims of the airplanes I guess. |
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mtj |
is this page down? |
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rangi |
i think UK wins out of those 2 |
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rangi |
what page? |
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wahanui |
hmmm... page is too big? |
| 20:47 |
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mtj |
http://koha-community.org/support/ |
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rangi |
nope |
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wizzyrea |
nope |
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rhcl |
works for me |
| 20:47 |
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wizzyrea |
me too |
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rhcl |
I think San Antonio, TX, would be a great place for a KohaCon - down on the RiverWalk. |
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rhcl |
And they have the semi-famous Brick Red Library, though I don't think they have Koha. |
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rangi |
weve done TX already, might be a while before we can do that again |
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rhcl |
Oh, really? |
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rangi |
yeah 2009 was plano |
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mtj |
cool, kc.org site is fine now |
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rhcl |
OK, then we need to have it at Chena Hot Springs in Alaska. http://www.chenahotsprings.com/ I've been there too. Pretty wild, to sit in an enclosed naturally flowing hot spring and watch it snow outside. |
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rhcl |
http://www.travelalaska.com/De[…]ot%20Springs.aspx <-- better site |
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* jcamins |
suggests somewhere easy to get to would be a good choice. |
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rangi |
yeah, that always helps |
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rangi |
so far so good |
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rangi |
the first hour of go live is always the worst |
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gmcharlt |
but Alaska is beautiful! so beautiful that it's worth any trouble to get to it! |
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* gmcharlt |
is fishing for any excuse to go back |
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rangi |
heh |
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Agent_Dani |
heh |
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rangi |
id go |
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rangi |
surely i can land in russia and just jump over |
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rhcl |
Well, Florida is a great destination too. Miami? St. Petersburg? |
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rhcl |
New Orleans (not in Summer)? |
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wizzyrea |
dude, 08 was in the US |
| 21:27 |
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wizzyrea |
09 I mean |
| 21:27 |
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wizzyrea |
that's only 2 years ago. I imagine it's probably one of those things we'll just have to wait our turn on ;) |
| 21:28 |
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wizzyrea |
Europe is currently a popular choice |
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rhcl |
OK, then Bangkok it is. Settled. Final |
| 21:28 |
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wizzyrea |
I think you just like to say Bangkok. |
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wizzyrea |
^.^ |
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rhcl |
Wish I was back there. Different world. |
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rangi |
philipines is a possibility, as they are rolling it out nationwide |
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* jcamins |
is hoping for the UK. |
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rhcl |
OK, Angeles City. |
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rangi |
yeah i think europes turn |
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rangi |
2006 last time it was there |
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chilts |
was that France? |
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chilts |
ah, Paris (I just searched) :) |
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rangi |
yup, and marseille |
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wizzyrea |
I thought it was ^^ |
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rangi |
for the dev week |
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wizzyrea |
AH |
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rangi |
the conf proper was paris tho |
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chilts |
so there wasn't one in 2007 or 2008? |
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rangi |
nop |
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rangi |
e |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6683] (es-ES) translate SQL scripts descriptions <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6683> |
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druthb |
o/ |
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Agent_Dani |
It's amazing how much smoother an upgrade goes when one has an idea what they're doing. |
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rangi |
https://openshift.redhat.com/app/ |
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rangi |
interesting |
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wahanui |
rumour has it interesting is sometimes bad or sometimes good |
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rangi |
never say no to panda |
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magnus_afk is now known as magnuse |
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magnuse |
rangi: still need a norwegian? ;-) |
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druthb |
hi, magnuse n rangi! :D |
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magnuse |
hiya druthb |
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rangi |
heh, it was your own status, google translated it for me |
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rangi |
hi druthb |
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magnuse |
hmf, i can't seem to make build-git-snapshot use 3.4-1~git instead of 3.5-1~git |
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rangi |
hmm |
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rangi |
i know how to do it the hardcodey way |
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magnuse |
rangi: so you're replacing me with a machine? *sobs* |
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rangi |
heh |
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magnuse |
the -v options doesn't seem to do much |
| 22:54 |
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magnuse |
but yeah, i'll just change script ever so slightly |
| 22:54 |
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rangi |
thats worth a bug report |
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magnuse |
i'll have another look tomorrow, i'm a little too tired to think straight now (and just back from a concert with Fanfare ciocarlia) |
| 22:57 |
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rangi |
ahh fair enough |
| 22:57 |
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rangi |
good to hear that the language packages worked though! |
| 22:57 |
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magnuse |
yeah, i'm thrilled! :-) |
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magnuse |
stille some work to make it general, but it was easy to copy what srdjan has done and get nb-NO working! |
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rangi |
awesome |
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magnuse |
yay! |
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magnuse |
my plan, as you saw, is to offer free koha for personal use to norwegian library people - to get some attention and start to build a community, hopefully |
| 22:59 |
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magnuse |
and it won't be long before i'm using packages for my customers too, i think! |
| 23:01 |
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rangi |
sweet, good idea |
| 23:01 |
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rangi |
have you seen this |
| 23:02 |
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rangi |
https://openshift.redhat.com/app/ |
| 23:02 |
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rangi |
and |
| 23:02 |
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rangi |
http://www.activestate.com/cloud |
| 23:02 |
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rangi |
might be a way to do it, without needing to look after a bunch of servers yourself |
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magnuse |
yeah, looks interesting, thanks! |
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magnuse |
i rent serverspace from slicehost, that has worked well so far |
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* magnuse |
wishes #koha a good time of the day! see ya late |
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magnuse |
r |
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magnuse is now known as magnus_away |
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eythian |
hi magnus_away, bye magnus_away |
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rhcl is now known as rhcl_away |
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bg |
rangi - seen any hobbit things lately? |
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rangi |
not lately no |
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bg |
darn |
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chilts |
a couple of my (short) friends applied to be Hobits, but they got turned away for meing too tall |
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chilts |
though they also reckon that acting experience was required (even though they said it wasn't) |
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bg |
heh |
