IRC log for #koha, 2011-03-31

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00:20 waylon Hiya all.... to have a good chance at obtaining a job at Catalyst, working with #koha.... what skills do i need? what level of knowledge in those skills?
00:22 rangi hi waylon
00:22 rangi you'd want to have some perl skills, the more the better, and some knowledge of koha
00:22 rangi im pretty sure you have both of those :)
00:22 rangi you should definitely send in a cv
00:23 waylon I have a good knowledge of both, and of mysql.. This is Waylon Robertson ... 33rd contributor to koha... and i usually use the nick Genji.
00:24 mtj oooh, catalyst sound busy…
00:24 eythian mtj: it's where all the cool kids want to be these days :)
00:25 waylon Beyond Perl and Koha.... any others? im guessing that developers don't have just koha to work on.
00:25 mtj jquery, mysql, css
00:26 mtj i use a lot of those , these days, for mods
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00:26 eythian waylon: the more the better. All the stuff that you'd expect for web-dev type things is worthwhile.
00:26 mtj html, and html-templating stuff too
00:27 waylon mtj: a PAYE work from home using skills and knowledge, to work on something your passionate about... whats not to like?
00:27 mtj ahh, and git ;)
00:27 eythian waylon: yeah, all the standard toolchain stuff.
00:27 waylon yup, know html... learning git, but need practical practise.
00:28 waylon I have yet to make a perl makefile.
00:28 eythian I never have either
00:28 waylon or create any tests.
00:28 eythian that's something that's worth learning :)
00:29 mtj i would up on my jquery, and show an ability to hack/mod Koha, using git
00:29 mtj oops, i would *brush* up on …
00:30 waylon i mean.. i know how to make a test, have to to get around some strange idicrosincracies of some distros bugs...but .. to know WHAT to test... difficult.
00:30 mtj pick a pet Koha peeve, and fix it...
00:31 waylon mean a automated 'make test'
00:31 waylon as opposed to a manual bugfix testing.
00:31 mtj … theres no end of little things to fix, in Koha
00:32 mtj i only wrote my 1st Koha test recently too :/
00:32 mtj a late starter on that one... :)
00:32 waylon hmm.. what i mean... is when people use make test, they test for things that are usually going right already.
00:35 eythian when writing/refactoring is the best time to make tests. That way you can make tests that fail and fix the code until they pass.
00:37 waylon Helps to have stuff in subs that can be tested, independant of webpage interaction eh?
00:37 eythian yep
00:37 mtj ive often heard folks say "if you are really clever , you can write your tests *before* your code"
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00:37 eythian which leads to good design of small modular parts
00:37 eythian mtj: yeah, I used to do that, although it's a hard habit to sustain.
00:37 mtj damian conway, even?
00:37 waylon yup.
00:40 waylon is there jobs available in catalyst, currently?
00:41 rangi
00:41 rangi yes is the short answer
00:42 eythian yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees is the long answer
00:42 waylon Then i shall look at my cv, dust it off and send it.
00:43 eythian just don't send in a word doc :)
00:43 waylon It is PAYE, work from home, or is there a need to move to wellington?
00:43 mtj ha, classic advice too! :)
00:43 * wizzyrea is shocked anyone wouldn't want to live in wellington
00:44 * waylon sends CV's in PDF and Openoffice format.
00:44 eythian hmm, it would probably be a director's call. There are some people who work remotely, but not all that many I think.
00:44 mtj yeah, me too :)
00:44 mtj ok, back to it...
00:44 rangi not many at all, has to be a pretty special set of circumstances
00:45 rangi i think 3 ppl out of 114
00:45 waylon Right... so there is a chance of... "Hey, we like you, but your in Palmerston north. Move to Wellington, and we'll take you."?
00:46 eythian that's quite possible, yeah.
00:46 mtj waylon: Katipo would be a good fit for working at home, too
00:47 waylon yeah.... true... what skillset they after?
00:48 waylon theres no job info on their website.... might mean no vacancies.
00:49 mtj twas a general suggestion, from me
00:53 waylon What kind of per week pay would someone get at Catalyst, for a new hire? Real question is... would it support the cost of renting a 2 or 3 bedroom house, power, phone, net etc? I really have never worked fulltime. only part time contracting for overseas.
00:55 mtj /private lol
00:56 eythian it would depend on too many factors to be able to say, really.
01:00 waylon ah.... hmm.. then... getting a job at Catalyst could be a risk to stability... if relocating proves to be impractical.
01:01 space_librarian these are all factors that you need to think about.
01:19 waylon Would a "yes, we want you, but you'd need to move to Wellington" come with income information prehaps?...when would income info be dispensed?
01:20 eythian before you accept or move or whatever, otherwise it'd be a bit unfair.
01:20 eythian So, well before you're committing to anything.
01:21 waylon right.
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01:50 waylon Okay, thats me for now. laters all.
01:51 space_librarian ciao
01:54 wizzyrea space_librarian: I made mac and cheese for dinner ^.^
01:54 wizzyrea (home made, with chicken and broccoli)
01:56 jcamins_away That actually sounds pretty good.
01:56 jcamins_away Shari called and said she'd like steak.
01:56 jcamins_away So steak we shall have.
01:57 wizzyrea nice!
01:57 space_librarian oh yum.
01:57 wizzyrea I was thinking steak earlier
01:57 wizzyrea steak and mashed potatoes are one thing I cannot turn down
01:58 space_librarian wizzyrea: I'm going to be making mac cheese tonight - I've made sure I have everything. :D
01:58 wizzyrea :D nice!
01:58 space_librarian I love mashed potatoes....that'd be good too.
01:58 wizzyrea I let my sauce get too hot and it went a bit grainy, but it still tasted good
01:58 wizzyrea stupid electric stove.
01:58 * jcamins_away doesn't like mashed potatoes.
01:58 wizzyrea my kid is the only person I know who won't eat mashed potatoes
01:59 wizzyrea he doesn't like them at all
01:59 * space_librarian loves boxty too...
01:59 jcamins_away I don't think there is any other form of potato I don't like. Just mashed potatoes.
01:59 wizzyrea this is near-bout heresy!
01:59 wizzyrea hmm
01:59 jcamins_away wizzyrea: awww. You're raising a heretic. :P
01:59 wizzyrea spud is just not real keen on potatoes (irony)
01:59 space_librarian
02:00 wizzyrea not even so much on french fries
02:00 space_librarian even better:
02:00 wizzyrea mmmm those look evil and wonderful
02:00 mtj boxty looks genius!
02:01 space_librarian it's really good with stew
02:01 wizzyrea jcamins has a great recipe for sweet potato gnocchi that I've made several time
02:01 wizzyrea s
02:01 wizzyrea and it's mahvellous
02:01 * space_librarian is getting hungry now...
02:01 * jcamins_away made those yesterday.
02:01 wizzyrea spud *does* like the gnocchi
02:02 jcamins_away Not yesterday.
02:02 wizzyrea (and yes, I really did just recognize the irony of calling him spud when he isn't keen on potatoes. I wonder if these things are related...)
02:02 jcamins_away It was several days ago.
02:08 * jcamins_away feels silly sitting at his computer doing homework and guarding the steak from the cat.
02:09 wizzyrea at least you don't have my problem, an ant crawling on your ear
02:10 jcamins_away Yay! Shari's home! Time to eat.
02:10 jcamins_away And, yes, I'm glad I don't have an ant on my ear.
02:10 wizzyrea :D yay!
02:10 space_librarian :)
02:10 wizzyrea myshkin, leave the steak for cat-mom
02:11 space_librarian steak and garlic butter... nom.
02:11 wizzyrea i just ate and that makes me hungry
02:12 jcamins_away Ooh, garlic butter.
02:12 jcamins_away If only I had thought of that.
02:12 jcamins_away Anyway, good night.
02:12 wizzyrea gnite :)
02:12 space_librarian night
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02:26 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: MT3289 : case sensitive variable names <[…]39b938ef3cd8cd4f3>
02:30 jenkins_koha Starting build 91 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
02:33 gmcharlt @quote random
02:33 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #53: "joetho: what kind of shape are the records in?" (added by gmcharlt at 10:17 PM, February 05, 2010)
02:33 gmcharlt hmm
02:33 gmcharlt I wonder why I added that quote
02:34 * gmcharlt feels like there must have been a punchline following it
02:34 rangi :)
02:34 eythian you're supposed to add the punchline :)
02:37 eythian rangi: I just realised that with a little more work (which I'm not going to do here), my accounts rewrite would allow balance to be transferred, or one person paying off anothers fines. I'll note that in the code :)
02:37 eythian (and having all the balances working out properly)
02:39 rangi awesome
02:40 wizzyrea eythian++ my libraries will like that
02:40 wizzyrea s/will/would
02:40 eythian wizzyrea: cool. We'll, it'll be fairly easy to implement on top of this, I think.
02:41 * wizzyrea is now curious about eythian's accounts rewrite, because fines are of particular interest to several of my libraries
02:41 eythian wizzyrea: One moment, I'll grab you a summary
02:41 wizzyrea <3
02:44 eythian <-- wizzyrea it's not very in depth, but it's where I'm going with it
02:45 * wizzyrea reads
02:45 eythian There's also stuff not mentioned in there to do with auto-paying from credit and such.
02:45 wizzyrea ooo
02:46 eythian yeah, and being flexible enough to say "pay for rentals only" or "anything but fines" automatically when they're charged.
02:46 rangi chris_n++
02:46 wizzyrea oh partial fines
02:47 wizzyrea that's one they've been wanting desperately
02:47 hdl eythian: have you done all the job already ?
02:47 eythian yeah, that's the impetus, but the whole accounts system isn't very nice and all the existing attempts are just sticking them on with bog.
02:47 eythian hdl: it's in progress.
02:47 hdl julian has made a branch for partial fines payment.
02:48 hdl We have it on our master.
02:48 rangi yeah this a full rewrite
02:48 wizzyrea and they-who-shall-not-be-named also have partial fines
02:48 rangi that just happens to allow partial fines too
02:48 hdl ok.
02:48 rangi[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5905
02:48 huginn Bug 5905: enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, Biblibre, Partial fine payments
02:49 eythian yeah, I looked at all the other ones, the goal of this is to have a nice, flexible (and documented) accounts system. Partial payments is just the sort of thing that falls out of that.
02:49 rangi we are looking at this too, for ideas, but basically its fixing the table structure
02:49 hdl ok.
02:49 hdl see you all
02:49 rangi hdl: i have a question for you
02:49 rangi oh hang on
02:50 rangi i see the time
02:50 rangi go to sleep
02:50 rangi ill ask you later :)
02:50 hdl rangi send me a message
02:50 hdl I have to take a train.
02:50 rangi its about sudoc stuff
02:50 * wizzyrea sings hdl a soothing lullabye
02:50 rangi will do
02:50 rangi[…]/biblibre_various <-- the sudoc submodule in there
02:51 * rangi is nearly finished that branch too, and then we are done !
02:51 rangi and already 78 patches are in master :)
02:51 rangi with another 23 waiting to be pushed
02:52 rangi and the rest im sure will get signed off/fixed at the hackfest
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03:09 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #91: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/91/
03:09 jenkins_koha Henri-Damien LAURENT: MT3289 : case sensitive variable names
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03:20 AmitG heya chris
03:20 AmitG India is in final
03:20 AmitG heya space_librarian
03:20 wahanui somebody said space_librarian was a new hire at catalyst .. second week eh space_librarian ?
03:21 space_librarian hey! It's going to be a great final.
03:21 space_librarian And I think it's about 7 weeks now? I lose count...
03:23 gmcharlt space_librarian: well, if seven weeks feels like two ...
03:23 gmcharlt ;)
03:23 AmitG heya galen
03:23 space_librarian I learn something new everyday. :)
03:40 jcamins_away AmitG: I think you really need a follow-up patch which changes the frameworks.
03:41 jcamins_away That is, a follow-up to the analytics branch.
03:41 AmitG ok sure
03:43 jcamins_away I really like the Analyze link, though.
03:45 jcamins_away Also, are there instructions on how to use the new features?
03:50 mtj git Q
03:51 mtj a command to show files changed, in a git commit?
03:51 mtj but *not* actual changes
04:07 gmcharlt mtj: git show --stat <commithash>
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06:02 bg heya AmitG
06:02 AmitG heya bg
06:03 bg india made the final :)
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06:40 mirbolt hello. i am currently running 3.00.06, i want to upgrade to 3.2.6. i am wondering should i do an incremental upgrade, e.g. upgrade to 3.2.0, then 3.2.2, etc or just jump straight into 3.2.6?
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06:48 magnuse goood morning #koha!
06:48 bg heya magnuse
06:48 magnuse hi bg
06:50 eythian mirbolt: test it on a copy of the database, but I think a straight upgrade should work.
06:51 mirbolt thanks eythian
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07:03 bg wow it's already that time - heya paul_p
07:03 bg :)
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07:05 paul_p hello world
07:05 bg hi paul
07:05 paul_p hi bg (brendan ?)
07:05 bg yup
07:05 bg new IRC new nick
07:06 paul_p congrats for your new employees. you'll be more than BibLibre in a few months if you continue growing like that ;-)
07:06 paul_p (we're 16)
07:06 bg heh
07:06 bg that would be too fast
07:07 bg paul_p++
07:07 paul_p sustained_but_managed_growth++
07:07 bg 16 is pretty awesome
07:07 bg sustained_but_managed_growth++
07:07 bg agreed
07:08 paul_p yep. Sometimes when I wake up in the morning I think : "hey, you're managing a company that should do 1 million € of income this year. Are you dreaming ?"
07:08 bg heh - that keeps me up at night
07:08 bg hence why I'm here
07:08 paul_p (reaching a 7digit number will be a huge step, at least psychollogically speaking ;-) )
07:08 bg ;)
07:09 bg or maybe it's stupid RFP
07:09 bg 's that keep me up
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07:10 paul_p the more stupid RFP I ever saw saw one asking, i'm not kidding 1400 questions, and it was a library with 3 librarians and less than 30 000 items !!!
07:10 bg OMG
07:11 paul_p (we did not answer ;-) )
07:11 bg good call
07:11 paul_p another one that was funny was one published on 2011, march, 1st saying "the system will be live on 2011, April 30th"
07:11 bg sometimes - I just want to send a single page back that says " YES of course "
07:12 paul_p (we answered saying: "hey it's impossible, here is our timeline". a new RFP just being issued last week without the "live on april" :D
07:12 paul_p bg: you mean "yes we can" ? :D
07:12 bg :)
07:12 bg yup
07:13 rangi evening
07:13 magnuse kia ora rangi
07:13 bg heya rangi++
07:14 bg it's rant about RFP time :)
07:14 bg to bad there isn't a proprietary channel
07:14 * magnuse will get to answer his first rfp soonish, hopefully
07:15 bg magnuse - you'll regret those words ;)
07:15 rangi heh
07:15 magnuse @wunder marseille
07:15 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 13.0�C (9:00 AM CEST on March 31, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
07:15 bg @wunder 93109
07:15 huginn bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 15.8�C (12:15 AM PDT on March 31, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015.5 hPa (Steady).
07:15 rangi rfp cost so much to answer
07:15 rangi i wonder if libraries realise that by using them
07:15 bg no they do not
07:15 rangi they make everything cost more for themselves
07:15 magnuse rangi: yeah, it seems like a really wasteful process
07:16 magnuse but on the other hand, it is a way for newcomers like me to get a foot in the door
07:16 rangi not often
07:16 rangi open tender works much better for that
07:16 rangi where you can actually pitch a solution
07:17 bg RFP
07:17 rangi rather than spend weeks answering questions that are pointless
07:17 magnuse otherwise, i can picture all too vividly averyone just byuing from the same old "safe" vendors
07:17 bg 's aren't written for open source
07:17 rangi thats pretty much what they do with RFP
07:17 rangi because only the same old ones have enough money to spend answering them
07:17 paul_p hi rangi & magnuse
07:18 rangi and they are written in a way that makes it hard to answer
07:18 magnuse open tender? hoe does that work? a library would just say "show us what you got"?
07:18 magnuse bonjour paul_p
07:18 bg and the nice thing about what we do - is that we can do anything
07:18 rangi when you dont have an out of the box
07:19 rangi magnuse: yeah basically, 'we want a solution to run our library .. what have you got'
07:19 bg it's if you want a system that can meet your needs
07:19 rangi yeah
07:19 bg then let's talk
07:20 magnuse hmm...
07:20 bg magnuse - good luck with your first - best of luck to you..
07:20 rangi or even an rfp where they have thought about it
07:21 rangi not cut and paste from 1971 :)
07:21 bg magnuse++  you can do it
07:21 magnuse thanks bg - i just know there is a small consortium that has said they will do an rfp, so i'm waiting for that to happen
07:21 rangi open tender is what hauraki did
07:21 bg :) go for it
07:21 rangi with the double envelope system
07:21 rangi koha won on both
07:21 rangi technical mertis
07:21 rangi merits
07:22 rangi and price
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07:22 bg heh - I liked mertis - sounded better
07:22 kf morning #koha
07:22 rangi lets invent it
07:22 bg heya kf
07:22 rangi hi kf
07:22 magnuse it's an intersting time in norway - the norwegian vendor of services for aleph have said they will stop selling those services, so libraries using aleph must buy support from abroad or find a new system...
07:22 kf hi bg and rangi :)
07:22 kf magnuse: weird
07:22 magnuse guten morgen kf
07:22 rangi oh its a digital imaging thermometer
07:22 bg sounds like a good time for you and koha
07:23 kf rangi: are you arond a bit longer?
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07:23 rangi yep
07:23 bg rangi is always here
07:23 paul_p in France, we have a few specialists that help libraries writing RFP. One is well known to have a standard RFP, that is 20years old, and he just changes a few lines since then. So some questions are really funny. Like "how many items can you attach to a given biblio"
07:23 magnuse bg: yeah, but the problem is getting that foot in the door, and i'm hardly the born salesman
07:23 kf hm not always :)
07:24 rangi paul_p: yep, we may have the same specialists hehe
07:24 paul_p magnuse, really ? (aleph announcement)
07:24 bg yup foot in the door is key...  the nice thing now is that you can let koha talk for you
07:24 rangi sometimes i think our rfp are written in french, thats how much i understand them :)
07:24 bg that's how we did it
07:24 magnuse paul_p: i recently did a presentation for a consortium of school - they lend out standard text books, so they may have in the area of 10.000 items for some of their records...
07:25 magnuse bg: trouvle is, i don't think librarians in norway are tuned to a very wide specter of input...
07:25 bg heh
07:26 paul_p magnuse, I propose we will speak of this next week !
07:26 magnuse paul_p: yes, really
07:26 magnuse pail_p: definitely!
07:26 * eythian is off home, but I hope you all read through my plans for the account system on koha-devel and say they're completely perfect :)
07:26 * magnuse looks at his own spelling with disgust
07:26 rangi :)
07:26 Space_Librarian_home :)
07:27 rangi how was the mac and cheese Space_Librarian_home ?
07:27 bg I only see something from Robin not eythian
07:27 bg heh - that was a response from a RFP
07:27 eythian bg: yeah, one's a typo for the other
07:27 bg just showing how stupid RFP
07:27 bg 's can be
07:27 Space_Librarian_home will be out the oven in about 5. smells good though
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07:28 francharb morning @koha!
07:28 kf hi francharb :)
07:28 magnuse bonjour francharb
07:29 kf only... 3 days now :)
07:29 francharb ;)
07:29 * bg is glad that eythian is working on accountlines
07:29 bg eythian++
07:30 rangi hi francharb
07:30 kf eythian++
07:30 kf very glad too
07:30 AmitG heya kf
07:31 * magnuse is all confused by the new nicks...
07:31 bg heh
07:31 * bg = brendan
07:31 bg also brendan_ = brendan
07:32 francharb magnuse: never played the game "guess who?" ?[…]/07/guess_who.jpg
07:32 francharb ;)
07:33 magnuse francharb: i would stink at that - i'm terrible with names and faces...
07:33 francharb hehe
07:36 kf ok
07:36 kf herei s my question :)
07:36 kf bug 5839
07:36 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5839 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Add mapping for items.stocknumber to MARC21
07:36 kf I don#t understand why it should be wrong to pick 1062
07:36 * magnuse wanders off to find breakfast
07:36 kf because the description of this attribute is exactly what a stocknumber/inventorynumber is
07:37 kf as I see it the 8000 are kind of like 9xx in MARC21?
07:38 rangi hmm
07:38 rangi i have no idea
07:38 kf I asked our format expert
07:38 kf she says 1062 is the choice she would have made too :(
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07:46 marcelr morning koha; kf around?
07:46 marcelr kf: 1062.. please see
07:48 kf yep
07:48 kf writing comment now
07:48 kf Number-local-acquisition 1062           Document acquisition number assigned by the system.
07:48 kf that'sit
07:48 kf I asked around here at work too - my experts say 1062 is correct
07:49 marcelr ok
07:49 kf sorry :)
07:50 marcelr and inventory number?
07:50 kf didn't want to sound rude or something, only very tired this morning and was away all day yesterday
07:50 kf the German word is Inventarnummer
07:50 marcelr i would prefer inventory
07:50 kf so it sounds much better to me
07:50 kf I am not sure though that we should rename the index
07:51 kf the other index names are called like the fields it seems
07:51 marcelr signed your first patch alreadu with stock
07:51 kf ok
07:51 kf so you don't want me to change the naming in the frameworks?
07:51 kf the description..
07:51 marcelr i would prefer to rename
07:52 kf index or frameworks?
07:52 kf renaming is not a big deal, I only want to avoid confusion
07:52 marcelr framework at least; we could have indexes withalias
07:53 kf hm
07:53 kf that about an alias inv
07:53 kf what about... sorry
07:53 kf I would ike that
07:53 kf easy to teach my librarians
07:53 marcelr so?
07:53 wahanui so is there an expirationdate and an expiredate?
07:53 kf have the full name stocknumber, have an alias inv
07:54 kf would that work?
07:54 kf for the index
07:54 marcelr probably
07:54 kf and I will change the frameworks too
07:54 marcelr ok i look for your submit
07:55 kf perhaps we should ask some native speakers before we change the descriptions?
07:55 marcelr i mailed the list yesterday; zeno responded
07:55 kf zeno is from italy - not sure if inventory number only sounds better to us
07:55 kf becaue it resembles our words for it
07:55 marcelr maybe someone here??
07:55 kf yeah, I hoped someone would say something now.. :)
07:56 kf perhaps too early
07:56 marcelr ye
07:56 kf I will ask around when working on the patch later today
07:56 marcelr ok
07:57 kf and thx for testing - hope we find a good solution .)
07:57 marcelr no problem
07:57 kf did you say the patch removing uniqueness from the field?
07:58 marcelr say or see
07:58 kf I followed paul's suggestion - hope that is ok for you too?
07:58 kf see
07:58 marcelr fine
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08:07 kf_mtg ok, meeting time
08:07 paul_p hi marcelr
08:07 paul_p kf_mtg, & marcelr = inventory number is perfect for frenchies ! we say "Numéro d'inventaire"
08:12 marcelr ok
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08:20 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 5988 - SearchMyLibraryFirst preference appears twice in preferences <[…]1958cc9e5c20d91b6> / Fix for Bug 3523 - Menu of existing lists limited to 10 <[…]a7021cfc42c747584> / Merge remote branch 'kc/master' into new/bug_5940 <http://git.koha-commun
08:28 bg night #koha
08:28 rangi night bg
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08:30 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6004/3270: Sending things "home" <[…]8164905788ba5a78b> / Bug 5305: CCL query, then resort, loses reults. <[…]f2457daf1a83f834b>
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08:54 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 5940: Admin Help Files for 3.4
08:54 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug5940: Authority, Labels, Circ help files for 3.4
08:54 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 5940: Offline Circ & Patron Card Help Files for 3.4
08:54 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5940 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED, Update Help Files for 3.4
08:54 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 3523 - Menu of existing lists limited to 10
08:54 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5988 - SearchMyLibraryFirst preference appears twice in preferences
08:54 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3523 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Menu of existing lists limited to 10
08:55 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5988 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, SearchMyLibraryFirst preference appears twice in english opac.pref file
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09:34 jenkins_koha * Bug 5305: CCL query, then resort, loses reults.
09:34 jenkins_koha * Bug 6004/3270: Sending things "home"
09:34 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5305 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, Resorting results of CCL queries fails in Staff Client
09:34 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6004 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, checking in an item that needs to be transferred home, and is on-hold for a patron, causes dual transfer message box
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10:11 magnuse yay!
10:14 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #94: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/94/
10:14 jenkins_koha root: Bug 6005: Fixes Transit slips cause FF4 to display "prevent this page from opening additional dialogs"
10:14 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6005 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, wizzyrea, ASSIGNED, Transit slips cause Firefox 4 to display "prevent this page from opening additional dialogs"
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10:28 magnuse o/
10:28 magnuse wow, is it that time of the day already...
10:29 kf you say it
10:29 kf and another meeting ahead
10:30 druthb hi, magnus n cait!  o/
10:30 * gmcharlt blearily waves from yet another airport
10:31 kf paul_p: looking at your mail and the google docs right now :)
10:31 * kf waves to gmcharlt
10:31 kf need some coffee?
10:32 kf \o ruth :)
10:32 * magnuse hans gmcharlt some coffee
10:32 magnuse s/hans/hands/
10:33 * magnuse did the s/// thing in skype chat once and was rather surprised when it actually worked...
10:42 gmcharlt magnuse: seriously?  wow
10:43 gmcharlt (and thanks for the coffee ;) )
10:44 magnuse gmcharlt: yvw - and yes, i think it was skype where s/// worked! i did a double take - "what the dickens just happened there?"
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11:45 AmitG heya jwagner
11:45 jwagner Hi AmitG
11:45 * jwagner wishes an excessively happy day to everyone!  It's baseball's Opening Day!  Yippeeeeeee!
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11:48 druthb happy Opening Day, jwagner.  :)
11:48 jwagner And thanks to whoever posted this link a while back:
11:49 druthb hehehe
11:49 kf hm dieses video ist in ihrem land nicht verfügbar
11:49 kf this video is not available in your coutnry
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11:50 jwagner kf, it's the John Fogerty video of Centerfield -- it was posted a while back when we were talking about baseball.
11:51 kf thx jwagner
11:51 kf I had this problem with rangi showing me nz music things too
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11:51 jwagner The local news channel has been playing snatches of it, Bruce Springsteen's Glory Days, and other baseball-related songs when they do the Opening Day weather forecast
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13:06 oleonard Cool Bunsen logo on my Google this morning
13:08 oleonard Geeky enough to know the +1 reference ([…]ng-your-history/), but not cool enough to see it in my Google I guess.
13:21 oleonard Bug 4040 still unsatisfied
13:21 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4040 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Placing a hold on an item while it is in transit results in duplicate dialogs upon check-in
13:21 oleonard Re-worded it to match the specifics
13:23 oleonard julian: Where did you take the screenshot attached to bug 5963?
13:24 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5963 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, Acquisitions: Add the capability to have a filter by active budget
13:24 julian oleonard: on the page, why?
13:25 oleonard I want to test it
13:25 julian Ok, sorry to not mentionned it ;)
13:27 oleonard I think I understand why the layout is messed up, so I want to see what I can do with it
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13:34 oleonard julian: Besides the layout problem, did you find that the checkbox worked?
13:34 oleonard It's not clear to me what kind of funds are hidden by default
13:35 wizzyrea oleonard: was that tested with old holds/already in transit holds or new holds?
13:35 wizzyrea on 4040
13:35 oleonard 1. Check in item to make it in transit
13:35 oleonard 2. Place hold on item
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13:36 oleonard 3. Check in item
13:36 wizzyrea so you're talking about an item transited home then held/checked out again
13:36 julian oleonard: in fact i didn't manage to create a fund for an inactive budget, fund is created in database, but does not appear in
13:37 oleonard wizzyrea: In my test the item is not in transit because of a hold, just because it was it was checked in at another branch
13:37 wizzyrea right
13:37 wizzyrea that I don't think is one of our test scenarios, it will be now
13:38 * wizzyrea tests that
13:42 julian oleonard: i think the 'hidden by default' funds are the funds that are in an inactive budget
13:46 wizzyrea oleonard: yep I see
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14:16 wizzyrea hm, have we ever seen the code referenced here?[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3246
14:16 huginn Bug 3246: enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Looking for a way to customize the patron slips (receipts)
14:16 wizzyrea by drulm
14:16 wizzyrea drdrulm, that is
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14:37 mib_wh0squ hi a client accidentally deleted a field under "add marc record" how do i put it back? the specific field is personal name
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14:38 oleonard mib_wh0squ: You deleted it in the framework editor?
14:38 mib_wh0squ yes
14:39 oleonard Do you have another framework you could copy the details from?
14:39 mib_wh0squ no
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14:40 oleonard mib_wh0squ: You could use this as a reference:[…]83315279c;hb=HEAD
14:41 oleonard You could even use that to send a direct update to mysql if you have access to it.
14:41 * oleonard 's power goes out. Glad for the battery backup.
14:41 * oleonard had better shut down just in case
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14:44 mib_wh0squ thanks will try it
14:47 tcohen hi #koha
14:47 tcohen it was a nice thread on koha-devel about the workflow
14:48 paul_p hi tcohen
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15:00 rhcl can anybody recommend a good, intro level sql book w/ lots of examples for our tech services people?
15:00 oleonard That was faster than I expected.
15:04 rhcl we're getting a "connect failed to" (and other z3950 sites).  Is anybody else having z39.50 problems?
15:06 rhcl w/in Koha, I should specify. We can ping it and even http it.
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15:11 oleonard rhcl: I got z39.50 results back from LOC just fine
15:12 rhcl telnet 7090 connects, but our koha clients (reflecting the server?) can't
15:13 oleonard I have a question about Koha/MARC links
15:13 oleonard On it says "If you change the link between a MARC subfield and a non-MARC field, ask your administrator to run misc/ script"
15:14 oleonard On, next to the "link" field, it says "Warning: This value should not change after data has been added to your catalog"
15:14 oleonard Are these not talking about the same thing?
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15:16 oleonard Hi ether
15:24 * jwagner harrumphs.  Four hours into my working day, I can finally get started on my "real" work that I was planning on doing today....
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15:30 tcohen rhcl: r u running telnet on the koha server?
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15:44 rhcl OK, appears to be a DNS problem--changed to a known good DNS server from our ISP and we're back
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16:19 Oak \o
16:20 magnuse o/
16:21 oleonard |o|
16:23 oleonard wizzyrea: Have you seen damaged items show up on the holds queue report lately?
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16:30 oleonard Hm, perhaps the holds queue report doesn't exclude damaged items? I thought it did
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16:32 oleonard No, I guess not. It checks for notforloan, itemlost, and wthdrawn
16:41 oleonard Bug 4870 I guess
16:41 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4870 normal, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, Damaged status does not prevent items from being selected for reserves
16:51 oleonard wizzyrea: I took a stab and a partial fix for Bug 4870 and could use your feedback on that and my comments there
16:51 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4870 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Damaged status does not prevent items from being selected for reserves
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16:53 tcohen hi ti all, i'd like to ask if anyone has any thoughts on zebraqueue_daemon making it into 3.4
16:55 oleonard tcohen: Offer fabulous prize in exchange for a patch sign-off? :)
16:55 tcohen i even have it signed-off by julian from biblibre!
16:56 tcohen i can make argentina loose against nz in a seven match :-P
16:57 tcohen i can offer a great asado in the second half of may that i'll be in spain for some days
16:58 oleonard tcohen: If you've got a signoff then you're in good shape. You'll just have to wait and see from here.
17:01 tcohen oleonard: thanks, i realized feature freeze was tomorrow (perhaps today in nz) so i got impatient hehe
17:10 sekjal tcohen:  is the bug report updated to Patch-Sent and Signed Off?
17:12 kf_mtg oleonard: wondered about your patch for damaged items holds
17:12 kf_mtg should this not be controlled by AllowHoldsOnDamagedItems?
17:12 kf_mtg our libraries don't take damaged items out of circulation
17:12 kf_mtg it's only additional information, so borrower is not charged on return
17:13 kf_mtg item was damaged already on checkout
17:13 oleonard kf_mtg: I wasn't aware of that preference. The holds queue build script didn't take it into account
17:14 oleonard So perhaps the holds queue script should ignore the damaged status if AllowHoldsOnDamagedItems is set to "allow"
17:14 kf_mtg yep
17:14 kf_mtg :)
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17:35 rangi tcohen: the feature freeze im not going to stop anything thats already been submitted for signoff
17:35 rangi only new stuff so you are fine
17:35 rangi anything that is in the signed-off
17:35 rangi or needs signoff queue is still eligible
17:36 rangi any new feature that isnt in either otoh .. that ill set to 3.6
17:36 magnuse yay!
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17:37 rangi so any patches you havent sent yet, do it now! :)
17:37 * oleonard is typing as fast as he can
17:37 rangi :)
17:38 * magnuse has sent all the patches he meant to do now
17:38 rangi bug fixes will be accepted after
17:38 rangi its just new features this freeze is for
17:38 magnuse that's cool
17:43 jwagner rangi, sorry, when is the freeze again?
17:43 jwagner I have a bug fix I need to send in; just haven't got it done yet.
17:44 rangi feauture freeze is end of april 1 in whatever timezone you are (april 2 nztime essentially)
17:44 rangi string freeze is 8th april
17:44 jwagner Ah.  So I'd better get it in today or tomorrow, then :-)
17:45 jwagner It's a fix, not a new feature.
17:45 rangi any bugs that change templates need to be in by the 8th
17:45 rangi yeah that has until the 8th
17:45 rangi or longer if it doesnt touch templates
17:45 jwagner OK, will try to get it done.  It doesn't touch templates.
17:50 nengard_lunch magnuse i tested the patch for bug 5671
17:50 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5671 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED, Add a column of custom HTML to "my summary"
17:50 nengard_lunch and added comments
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17:51 magnuse thanks nengard, i'll see to fixing that as soon as i can (but the tabs were ok for me, hm...)
17:51 nengard and now i see that sekjal was also testing at the same time
17:51 nengard i missed his comments
17:52 nengard i'm in FF4 if that helps with the tabs
17:52 sekjal and I'm in FF 3.6
17:52 rangi you should definitely note that on bugs nengard
17:52 nengard i usually do
17:52 rangi because most ppl wont be running 4 yet
17:52 nengard just rushing around today
17:53 rangi cool
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17:55 * magnuse is flattered to have his patch tested so quickly, and embarassed to cause errors...
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17:57 nengard magnuse it's an awesome feature so of course we jumped on testing it :) hehe
17:57 nengard and we all make mistakes
17:59 magnuse thanks
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18:10 rangi nice work by slef
18:11 rangi
18:11 rangi got the license changed to CC-BY
18:12 rangi ok, lots of meetings today, i should go make myself look presentable
18:12 rangi bbiab
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18:18 magnuse slef++
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18:24 cait hi all
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18:37 tcohen rangi: thanks for your answer, maybe some day i'll cook a big asado for you
18:38 magnuse nengard, sekjal: i can't seem to reproduce those broken tabs - tried ff 3.6 on win & linux, 4 on os x...
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18:39 magnuse but when i try to lend something now i get this: Can't call method "output" on an undefined value at /home/magnus/kohahead/C4/ line 2713. anyone seen that? line 2713 is: if ( $hardduedate->output('iso') && $hardduedate->output('iso')         ne '0000-00-00') {
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18:53 rangi back
18:53 bg wb
18:55 sekjal magnuse:  whoops
18:55 sekjal should probably be testing on $hardduedate, not the output
19:00 rangi hmm when did that sneak in
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19:06 magnuse sekjal, rangi: you mean i'm not going mad after all?
19:06 sekjal magnuse:  nope, my fault
19:08 * cait waves to rangi
19:08 rangi heya cait
19:10 sekjal magnuse:  do you have an applicable circ rule for the combo of branch/itemtype/patron category you're using?
19:10 rangi did you hear sirsidynix have decided to reignite horizon development?
19:11 cait oh!
19:11 magnuse sekjal: actually, i don't think i have
19:12 magnuse sekjal: removing 2x ->output('iso')�made the error go away
19:12 cait is there news somewhere?
19:12 sekjal okay, that's it.   I've got record of this coming up in testing, but no followup
19:12 sekjal so, it looks like HardDueDates break the default circ period of 21 days
19:14 rangi I think I read it in library news weekly
19:14 * wizzyrea makes note of the date in NZ
19:14 rangi :P
19:15 wizzyrea but yea, horizon, srsly.
19:16 cait hmpf
19:16 cait *sighs*
19:16 * cait makes a mental note: no cookies for rangi today
19:16 rangi hehe
19:17 cait we migrated our first library from horizon to koha this month - and they  seem very happy so far :)
19:18 rangi yay
19:21 rangi SpaceLibrarian_home: how are we gonna top drinking with the national librarian today?
19:23 sekjal magnuse:  you only need to remove the first ->output('iso'); the second checks for data integrity and such
19:23 sekjal submitting a follow up patch now
19:28 magnuse sekjal: right you are
19:28 cait ah
19:28 cait I wanted to ask something once more people are around :)
19:29 cait stock number? inventory number? accession number? What is the right description for the new field stocknumber in items? we have some votes on inventory number at the moment
19:32 cait hm
19:32 sekjal magnuse:  patch sent
19:35 SpaceLibrarian_home rangi: I'm not entirely sure...
19:36 SpaceLibrarian_home I'm sure we can think of something.
19:36 SpaceLibrarian_home wizzyrea: I made mac cheese last night too. It was fantastic. ;)
19:37 wizzyrea SpaceLibrarian_home:
19:37 wizzyrea nice!
19:37 wizzyrea oops lol
19:37 wizzyrea yay for international dinner synchronicity
19:37 wizzyrea !
19:38 SpaceLibrarian_home yes!
19:41 wizzyrea do you think this is too many tabs?
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19:43 schuster Is there an easy way to pull the summary from a group of books via sql?
19:43 rangi wizzyrea: yes, yes i do
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19:47 schuster hmmm dropped in on rangi's comment to wizzyrea - yes yes I do....  have to go back and read...  I found abstract for my question so I'm good thanks!
19:56 rangi sekjal: bug 4157
19:56 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4157 enhancement, P5, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED, Display of barcode in checked out items in OPAC
19:57 sekjal rangi:  right
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19:59 SpaceLibrarian_home right. time for work. bbiab. :)
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20:03 rangi the transport matrix one is up too :) getting htere
20:04 cait dealing with biblibre's branches?
20:05 rangi no those are new work ones, biblibres branches are pretty much done
20:07 rangi sekjal: bug 5578
20:07 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5578 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED, SCO using login for authentication
20:07 rangi is that what the follow up is for?
20:08 sekjal oh geeze, did I get the wrong number?
20:08 sekjal argh
20:08 rangi that one hasnt been pushed yet, so im guessing so :)
20:08 rangi tell the right number ill commit --amend :)
20:08 sekjal 5548
20:08 sekjal so, I was close :)
20:09 rangi :)
20:10 cait rangi :cool :)
20:12 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_5548' into kcmaster <[…]a9ce3f4bb49b9dc73> / Bug 5578 Followup: Hard Due Dates break hard-coded default circ rule <[…]6f17a588f56a39870>
20:14 schuster bug 5548
20:14 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5548 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED, Hard Due Dates Circ Rule
20:14 sekjal rangi: thanks
20:15 rangi no problemo
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20:15 rangi its pretty sweet how fast it was caught and fixed
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20:21 cait oh bug 6024
20:21 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6024 enhancement, P5, ---, chris, NEW, Run a Report immediately after creating or editing
20:22 cait that's a good thing
20:22 rangi yup
20:22 rangi thanks space_librarian for making the bug
20:23 space_librarian I got it right?
20:23 rangi yup
20:23 space_librarian :)
20:25 cait :)
20:26 rangi ohh heres a handy one!
20:26 rangi[…]40ad8f01cd374d144
20:26 sekjal neat!
20:27 rangi ill just fix the license and copyright and send the patch
20:29 rangi i love git add ; git commit --amend
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20:34 bg @wunder 93109
20:34 huginn bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 33.6�C (1:34 PM PDT on March 31, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 20%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Falling).
20:34 bg man it's freaking hot here today...
20:35 * bg is almost ready to work in the buff
20:35 wizzyrea !!!
20:36 rangi thank god there isnt webcams in irc
20:36 bg :D
20:36 bg @wunder wellington nz
20:36 huginn bg: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0�C (9:00 AM NZDT on April 01, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
20:36 bg wanna trade rangi?
20:37 wizzyrea @wunder lawrence ks
20:37 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 4.8�C (3:37 PM CDT on March 31, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.73 in 1006.7 hPa (Falling).
20:37 rangi naw, im wearing long sleeves
20:37 wizzyrea yea, eat it
20:37 wizzyrea it's cold here.
20:40 bg I walk outside and melt
20:40 cait @wunder Konstanz
20:40 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 10.9�C (10:40 PM CEST on March 31, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.26 in 1024.6 hPa (Steady).
20:41 gmcharlt @wunder 32605
20:41 huginn gmcharlt: The current temperature in Central Gainesville, Gainesville, Florida is 23.6�C (4:42 PM EDT on March 31, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 29.57 in 1001.2 hPa (Steady).
20:41 gmcharlt the rain is following me
20:41 rangi heh
20:42 bg rain rain go away
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20:55 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #95: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/95/
20:55 jenkins_koha Ian Walls: Bug 5578 Followup: Hard Due Dates break hard-coded default circ rule
20:55 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5578 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED, SCO using login for authentication
20:55 rangi cool
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22:04 eythian @wunder honiara
22:04 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Honiara / Henderson, Solomon Islands is 25.0�C (8:00 AM SBT on April 01, 2011). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 24.0�C. Pressure: 29.84 in 1010 hPa (Rising).
22:04 eythian that's what I remember, a nice cool morning there :)
22:06 jcamins_away eythian: is there any log from rebuild_zebra with the packages?
22:07 eythian jcamins_away: not as such, but any messages it produces will be emailed to root by cron.
22:07 jcamins_away Hm.
22:07 jcamins_away So what do you do if your system inexplicably stops searching?
22:07 jcamins_away (after a reindex)
22:08 eythian check the daemon is running (sudo /etc/init.d/koha-common restart)
22:08 eythian to do a full index, I usually do, e.g:
22:08 eythian sudo -u 'opus-koha' -H env PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib KOHA_CONF='/etc/koha/sites/opus/koha-conf.xml' /usr/share/koha/bin/migrat​ion_tools/ -b -a -v -r
22:08 jcamins_away Okay, thanks.
22:09 eythian although there is a patch that I haven't done anything with just yet to give the rebuild script the option to be verbose.
22:09 eythian (as in, the package rebuild script)
22:09 jcamins_away If you submit it before the end of the day, I'll sign off on it before string freeze. :)
22:10 eythian I'll try to do that :) when's the end of your day?
22:10 eythian actually, I'll just do it after writing this email.
22:10 jcamins_away No, not my end of day.
22:10 jcamins_away Your end of day.
22:10 eythian oh, OK
22:10 jcamins_away Chris said anything that's not been sent to the list by the end of your day can't get in.
22:10 rangi jcamins_away: thats feature freeze
22:10 rangi string freeze isnt until the 8th
22:11 jcamins_away Oh.
22:11 eythian it's still a feature :)
22:11 jcamins_away I meant feature freeze.
22:11 rangi if its a bug, its ok, new feature today is cut off
22:11 rangi yep
22:13 jcamins_away Either way, end of the day for eythian, not for me.
22:14 jcamins_away ;)
22:14 cait oh
22:14 cait I thought end of 1st my day?
22:15 rangi ill let you do that
22:15 cait not sure I will make it though... but still a chance then :)
22:15 jcamins_away cait: but that's for features from you.
22:15 jcamins_away And eythian is in NZ. ;)
22:17 cait aha!
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22:28 eythian jcamins_away: just checked that patch, looks good, will send it soon.
22:28 jcamins_away Thanks.
22:29 jcamins_away I won't be able to sign off on it until Saturday, but this way Chris might be willing to include it in 3.4.
22:29 rangi as long as its submitted for signoff, its eligible
22:33 eythian jcamins_away: Bug 6031
22:33 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6031 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED, koha-rebuild-zebra doesn't allow XML and verbose indexing
22:34 jcamins_away Thanks.
22:34 jcamins_away eythian++
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22:38 cait ok, time to get some sleep - so I get a chance to make use of tomorrow :)
22:38 cait good night all
22:38 rangi :)
22:38 rangi night
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22:58 rangi jcamins_away: what do you reckon the chances are of getting in the osslabs analytics work
22:59 rangi given colin and you both seem mostly happy with it, im pretty inclined to merge it in
23:00 jcamins_away Hm.
23:00 jcamins_away That's reasonable.
23:00 jcamins_away My one concern is that they still don't populate even the default framework.
23:00 rangi afaict it causes no regressions
23:00 rangi ahh maybe ill wait for that and ping them on that
23:00 rangi say thats what is holding back it being merged
23:00 rangi ta
23:01 jcamins_away Once you work out *why* the analytics stuff doesn't work, it works well, but every time I've tested (on different data), it's taken me hours to realize that's the problem.
23:02 rangi yeah that sounds like something that should be fixed first
23:02 rangi righto thanks
23:02 jcamins_away You're welcome.
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23:13 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5990: Lists and Cart show LOC code not Location Authorized value <[…]6e4b5c20f3dd6dc93> / Bumping database version number <[…]7c100f235d468d3a6> / Bug 5957: Making COiNS in OPAC search results optional <[…]b/?p=koha.git;a=c
23:15 jenkins_koha Starting build 96 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
23:55 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #96: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/96/
23:55 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5828 - notes for purchase suggestions not showing in the staff client
23:55 jenkins_koha * Matthias Meusburger: Bug 4943: Search history cookie size limit
23:55 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5828 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, notes for purchase suggestions not showing in the staff client
23:55 jenkins_koha * Ian Walls: Bug 5957: Making COiNS in OPAC search results optional
23:55 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bumping database version number
23:55 jenkins_koha * Ian Walls: Bug 5990: Lists and Cart show LOC code not Location Authorized value
23:55 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4943 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, Search history cookie size limit
23:55 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5957 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED, COiNS in the OPAC search results should be optional
23:55 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5990 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED, Lists and Cart show LOC code, not Location Authorized value
23:58 rangi whoa what a dick
23:58 jcamins_away "The seventeen that say what they do?"
23:58 rangi yeah
23:59 rangi from a liblimer no less
23:59 jcamins_away But, hey, what do I know?
23:59 jcamins_away I just read the manual.
23:59 rangi would

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