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| 00:20 |
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waylon |
Hiya all.... to have a good chance at obtaining a job at Catalyst, working with #koha.... what skills do i need? what level of knowledge in those skills? |
| 00:22 |
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rangi |
hi waylon |
| 00:22 |
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rangi |
you'd want to have some perl skills, the more the better, and some knowledge of koha |
| 00:22 |
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rangi |
im pretty sure you have both of those :) |
| 00:22 |
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rangi |
you should definitely send in a cv |
| 00:23 |
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waylon |
I have a good knowledge of both, and of mysql.. This is Waylon Robertson ... 33rd contributor to koha... and i usually use the nick Genji. |
| 00:24 |
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mtj |
oooh, catalyst sound busy… |
| 00:24 |
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eythian |
mtj: it's where all the cool kids want to be these days :) |
| 00:25 |
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waylon |
Beyond Perl and Koha.... any others? im guessing that developers don't have just koha to work on. |
| 00:25 |
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mtj |
jquery, mysql, css |
| 00:26 |
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mtj |
i use a lot of those , these days, for mods |
| 00:26 |
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| 00:26 |
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eythian |
waylon: the more the better. All the stuff that you'd expect for web-dev type things is worthwhile. |
| 00:26 |
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mtj |
html, and html-templating stuff too |
| 00:27 |
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waylon |
mtj: a PAYE work from home using skills and knowledge, to work on something your passionate about... whats not to like? |
| 00:27 |
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mtj |
ahh, and git ;) |
| 00:27 |
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eythian |
waylon: yeah, all the standard toolchain stuff. |
| 00:27 |
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waylon |
yup, know html... learning git, but need practical practise. |
| 00:28 |
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waylon |
I have yet to make a perl makefile. |
| 00:28 |
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eythian |
I never have either |
| 00:28 |
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waylon |
or create any tests. |
| 00:28 |
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eythian |
that's something that's worth learning :) |
| 00:29 |
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mtj |
i would up on my jquery, and show an ability to hack/mod Koha, using git |
| 00:29 |
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mtj |
oops, i would *brush* up on … |
| 00:30 |
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waylon |
i mean.. i know how to make a test, have to to get around some strange idicrosincracies of some distros bugs...but .. to know WHAT to test... difficult. |
| 00:30 |
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mtj |
pick a pet Koha peeve, and fix it... |
| 00:31 |
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waylon |
mean a automated 'make test' |
| 00:31 |
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waylon |
as opposed to a manual bugfix testing. |
| 00:31 |
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mtj |
… theres no end of little things to fix, in Koha |
| 00:32 |
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mtj |
i only wrote my 1st Koha test recently too :/ |
| 00:32 |
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mtj |
a late starter on that one... :) |
| 00:32 |
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waylon |
hmm.. what i mean... is when people use make test, they test for things that are usually going right already. |
| 00:35 |
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eythian |
when writing/refactoring is the best time to make tests. That way you can make tests that fail and fix the code until they pass. |
| 00:37 |
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waylon |
Helps to have stuff in subs that can be tested, independant of webpage interaction eh? |
| 00:37 |
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eythian |
yep |
| 00:37 |
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mtj |
ive often heard folks say "if you are really clever , you can write your tests *before* your code" |
| 00:37 |
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| 00:37 |
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eythian |
which leads to good design of small modular parts |
| 00:37 |
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eythian |
mtj: yeah, I used to do that, although it's a hard habit to sustain. |
| 00:37 |
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mtj |
damian conway, even? |
| 00:37 |
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waylon |
yup. |
| 00:40 |
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waylon |
is there jobs available in catalyst, currently? |
| 00:41 |
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rangi |
http://catalyst.net.nz/company/jobs |
| 00:41 |
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rangi |
yes is the short answer |
| 00:42 |
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eythian |
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees is the long answer |
| 00:42 |
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waylon |
Then i shall look at my cv, dust it off and send it. |
| 00:43 |
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eythian |
just don't send in a word doc :) |
| 00:43 |
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waylon |
It is PAYE, work from home, or is there a need to move to wellington? |
| 00:43 |
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mtj |
ha, classic advice too! :) |
| 00:43 |
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* wizzyrea |
is shocked anyone wouldn't want to live in wellington |
| 00:44 |
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* waylon |
sends CV's in PDF and Openoffice format. |
| 00:44 |
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eythian |
hmm, it would probably be a director's call. There are some people who work remotely, but not all that many I think. |
| 00:44 |
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mtj |
yeah, me too :) |
| 00:44 |
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mtj |
ok, back to it... |
| 00:44 |
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rangi |
not many at all, has to be a pretty special set of circumstances |
| 00:45 |
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rangi |
i think 3 ppl out of 114 |
| 00:45 |
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waylon |
Right... so there is a chance of... "Hey, we like you, but your in Palmerston north. Move to Wellington, and we'll take you."? |
| 00:46 |
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eythian |
that's quite possible, yeah. |
| 00:46 |
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mtj |
waylon: Katipo would be a good fit for working at home, too |
| 00:47 |
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waylon |
yeah.... true... what skillset they after? |
| 00:48 |
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waylon |
theres no job info on their website.... might mean no vacancies. |
| 00:49 |
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mtj |
twas a general suggestion, from me |
| 00:53 |
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waylon |
What kind of per week pay would someone get at Catalyst, for a new hire? Real question is... would it support the cost of renting a 2 or 3 bedroom house, power, phone, net etc? I really have never worked fulltime. only part time contracting for overseas. |
| 00:55 |
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mtj |
/private lol |
| 00:56 |
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eythian |
it would depend on too many factors to be able to say, really. |
| 01:00 |
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waylon |
ah.... hmm.. then... getting a job at Catalyst could be a risk to stability... if relocating proves to be impractical. |
| 01:01 |
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space_librarian |
these are all factors that you need to think about. |
| 01:19 |
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waylon |
Would a "yes, we want you, but you'd need to move to Wellington" come with income information prehaps?...when would income info be dispensed? |
| 01:20 |
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eythian |
before you accept or move or whatever, otherwise it'd be a bit unfair. |
| 01:20 |
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eythian |
So, well before you're committing to anything. |
| 01:21 |
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waylon |
right. |
| 01:40 |
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| 01:50 |
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waylon |
Okay, thats me for now. laters all. |
| 01:51 |
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space_librarian |
ciao |
| 01:54 |
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wizzyrea |
space_librarian: I made mac and cheese for dinner ^.^ |
| 01:54 |
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wizzyrea |
(home made, with chicken and broccoli) |
| 01:56 |
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jcamins_away |
That actually sounds pretty good. |
| 01:56 |
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jcamins_away |
Shari called and said she'd like steak. |
| 01:56 |
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jcamins_away |
So steak we shall have. |
| 01:57 |
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wizzyrea |
nice! |
| 01:57 |
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space_librarian |
oh yum. |
| 01:57 |
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wizzyrea |
I was thinking steak earlier |
| 01:57 |
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wizzyrea |
steak and mashed potatoes are one thing I cannot turn down |
| 01:58 |
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space_librarian |
wizzyrea: I'm going to be making mac cheese tonight - I've made sure I have everything. :D |
| 01:58 |
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wizzyrea |
:D nice! |
| 01:58 |
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space_librarian |
I love mashed potatoes....that'd be good too. |
| 01:58 |
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wizzyrea |
I let my sauce get too hot and it went a bit grainy, but it still tasted good |
| 01:58 |
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wizzyrea |
stupid electric stove. |
| 01:58 |
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* jcamins_away |
doesn't like mashed potatoes. |
| 01:58 |
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wizzyrea |
my kid is the only person I know who won't eat mashed potatoes |
| 01:59 |
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wizzyrea |
he doesn't like them at all |
| 01:59 |
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* space_librarian |
loves boxty too... |
| 01:59 |
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jcamins_away |
I don't think there is any other form of potato I don't like. Just mashed potatoes. |
| 01:59 |
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wizzyrea |
this is near-bout heresy! |
| 01:59 |
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wizzyrea |
hmm |
| 01:59 |
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jcamins_away |
wizzyrea: awww. You're raising a heretic. :P |
| 01:59 |
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wizzyrea |
spud is just not real keen on potatoes (irony) |
| 01:59 |
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space_librarian |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxty |
| 02:00 |
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wizzyrea |
not even so much on french fries |
| 02:00 |
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space_librarian |
even better: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champ_(food) |
| 02:00 |
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wizzyrea |
mmmm those look evil and wonderful |
| 02:00 |
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mtj |
boxty looks genius! |
| 02:01 |
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space_librarian |
it's really good with stew |
| 02:01 |
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wizzyrea |
jcamins has a great recipe for sweet potato gnocchi that I've made several time |
| 02:01 |
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wizzyrea |
s |
| 02:01 |
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wizzyrea |
and it's mahvellous |
| 02:01 |
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* space_librarian |
is getting hungry now... |
| 02:01 |
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* jcamins_away |
made those yesterday. |
| 02:01 |
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wizzyrea |
spud *does* like the gnocchi |
| 02:02 |
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jcamins_away |
Not yesterday. |
| 02:02 |
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wizzyrea |
(and yes, I really did just recognize the irony of calling him spud when he isn't keen on potatoes. I wonder if these things are related...) |
| 02:02 |
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jcamins_away |
It was several days ago. |
| 02:08 |
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* jcamins_away |
feels silly sitting at his computer doing homework and guarding the steak from the cat. |
| 02:09 |
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wizzyrea |
at least you don't have my problem, an ant crawling on your ear |
| 02:10 |
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jcamins_away |
Yay! Shari's home! Time to eat. |
| 02:10 |
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jcamins_away |
And, yes, I'm glad I don't have an ant on my ear. |
| 02:10 |
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wizzyrea |
:D yay! |
| 02:10 |
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space_librarian |
:) |
| 02:10 |
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wizzyrea |
myshkin, leave the steak for cat-mom |
| 02:11 |
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space_librarian |
steak and garlic butter... nom. |
| 02:11 |
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wizzyrea |
i just ate and that makes me hungry |
| 02:12 |
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jcamins_away |
Ooh, garlic butter. |
| 02:12 |
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jcamins_away |
If only I had thought of that. |
| 02:12 |
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jcamins_away |
Anyway, good night. |
| 02:12 |
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wizzyrea |
gnite :) |
| 02:12 |
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space_librarian |
night |
| 02:13 |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: MT3289 : check_sysprefs.pl case sensitive variable names <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]39b938ef3cd8cd4f3> |
| 02:30 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build 91 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 02:33 |
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gmcharlt |
@quote random |
| 02:33 |
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huginn |
gmcharlt: Quote #53: "joetho: what kind of shape are the records in?" (added by gmcharlt at 10:17 PM, February 05, 2010) |
| 02:33 |
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gmcharlt |
hmm |
| 02:33 |
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gmcharlt |
I wonder why I added that quote |
| 02:34 |
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* gmcharlt |
feels like there must have been a punchline following it |
| 02:34 |
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rangi |
:) |
| 02:34 |
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eythian |
you're supposed to add the punchline :) |
| 02:37 |
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eythian |
rangi: I just realised that with a little more work (which I'm not going to do here), my accounts rewrite would allow balance to be transferred, or one person paying off anothers fines. I'll note that in the code :) |
| 02:37 |
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eythian |
(and having all the balances working out properly) |
| 02:39 |
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rangi |
awesome |
| 02:40 |
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wizzyrea |
eythian++ my libraries will like that |
| 02:40 |
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wizzyrea |
s/will/would |
| 02:40 |
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eythian |
wizzyrea: cool. We'll, it'll be fairly easy to implement on top of this, I think. |
| 02:41 |
|
* wizzyrea |
is now curious about eythian's accounts rewrite, because fines are of particular interest to several of my libraries |
| 02:41 |
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eythian |
wizzyrea: One moment, I'll grab you a summary |
| 02:41 |
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wizzyrea |
<3 |
| 02:44 |
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eythian |
http://paste.dollyfish.net.nz/e03009 <-- wizzyrea it's not very in depth, but it's where I'm going with it |
| 02:45 |
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* wizzyrea |
reads |
| 02:45 |
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eythian |
There's also stuff not mentioned in there to do with auto-paying from credit and such. |
| 02:45 |
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wizzyrea |
ooo |
| 02:46 |
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eythian |
yeah, and being flexible enough to say "pay for rentals only" or "anything but fines" automatically when they're charged. |
| 02:46 |
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rangi |
chris_n++ |
| 02:46 |
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wizzyrea |
oh partial fines |
| 02:47 |
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wizzyrea |
that's one they've been wanting desperately |
| 02:47 |
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hdl |
eythian: have you done all the job already ? |
| 02:47 |
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eythian |
yeah, that's the impetus, but the whole accounts system isn't very nice and all the existing attempts are just sticking them on with bog. |
| 02:47 |
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eythian |
hdl: it's in progress. |
| 02:47 |
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hdl |
julian has made a branch for partial fines payment. |
| 02:48 |
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hdl |
We have it on our master. |
| 02:48 |
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rangi |
yeah this a full rewrite |
| 02:48 |
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wizzyrea |
and they-who-shall-not-be-named also have partial fines |
| 02:48 |
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rangi |
that just happens to allow partial fines too |
| 02:48 |
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hdl |
ok. |
| 02:48 |
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rangi |
http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5905 |
| 02:48 |
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huginn |
Bug 5905: enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, Biblibre, Partial fine payments |
| 02:49 |
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eythian |
yeah, I looked at all the other ones, the goal of this is to have a nice, flexible (and documented) accounts system. Partial payments is just the sort of thing that falls out of that. |
| 02:49 |
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rangi |
we are looking at this too, for ideas, but basically its fixing the table structure |
| 02:49 |
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hdl |
ok. |
| 02:49 |
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hdl |
see you all |
| 02:49 |
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rangi |
hdl: i have a question for you |
| 02:49 |
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rangi |
oh hang on |
| 02:50 |
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rangi |
i see the time |
| 02:50 |
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rangi |
go to sleep |
| 02:50 |
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rangi |
ill ask you later :) |
| 02:50 |
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hdl |
rangi send me a message |
| 02:50 |
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hdl |
I have to take a train. |
| 02:50 |
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rangi |
its about sudoc stuff |
| 02:50 |
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* wizzyrea |
sings hdl a soothing lullabye |
| 02:50 |
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rangi |
will do |
| 02:50 |
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rangi |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]/biblibre_various <-- the sudoc submodule in there |
| 02:51 |
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* rangi |
is nearly finished that branch too, and then we are done ! |
| 02:51 |
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rangi |
and already 78 patches are in master :) |
| 02:51 |
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rangi |
with another 23 waiting to be pushed |
| 02:52 |
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rangi |
and the rest im sure will get signed off/fixed at the hackfest |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #91: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/91/ |
| 03:09 |
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jenkins_koha |
Henri-Damien LAURENT: MT3289 : check_sysprefs.pl case sensitive variable names |
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| 03:20 |
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AmitG |
heya chris |
| 03:20 |
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AmitG |
India is in final |
| 03:20 |
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AmitG |
heya space_librarian |
| 03:20 |
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wahanui |
somebody said space_librarian was a new hire at catalyst .. second week eh space_librarian ? |
| 03:21 |
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space_librarian |
hey! It's going to be a great final. |
| 03:21 |
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space_librarian |
And I think it's about 7 weeks now? I lose count... |
| 03:23 |
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gmcharlt |
space_librarian: well, if seven weeks feels like two ... |
| 03:23 |
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gmcharlt |
;) |
| 03:23 |
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AmitG |
heya galen |
| 03:23 |
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space_librarian |
I learn something new everyday. :) |
| 03:40 |
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jcamins_away |
AmitG: I think you really need a follow-up patch which changes the frameworks. |
| 03:41 |
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jcamins_away |
That is, a follow-up to the analytics branch. |
| 03:41 |
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AmitG |
ok sure |
| 03:43 |
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jcamins_away |
I really like the Analyze link, though. |
| 03:45 |
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jcamins_away |
Also, are there instructions on how to use the new features? |
| 03:50 |
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mtj |
git Q |
| 03:51 |
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mtj |
a command to show files changed, in a git commit? |
| 03:51 |
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mtj |
but *not* actual changes |
| 04:07 |
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gmcharlt |
mtj: git show --stat <commithash> |
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bg |
heya AmitG |
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AmitG |
heya bg |
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bg |
india made the final :) |
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mirbolt |
hello. i am currently running 3.00.06, i want to upgrade to 3.2.6. i am wondering should i do an incremental upgrade, e.g. upgrade to 3.2.0, then 3.2.2, etc or just jump straight into 3.2.6? |
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magnuse |
goood morning #koha! |
| 06:48 |
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bg |
heya magnuse |
| 06:48 |
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magnuse |
hi bg |
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eythian |
mirbolt: test it on a copy of the database, but I think a straight upgrade should work. |
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mirbolt |
thanks eythian |
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bg |
wow it's already that time - heya paul_p |
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bg |
:) |
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paul_p |
hello world |
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bg |
hi paul |
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paul_p |
hi bg (brendan ?) |
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bg |
yup |
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bg |
new IRC new nick |
| 07:06 |
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paul_p |
congrats for your new employees. you'll be more than BibLibre in a few months if you continue growing like that ;-) |
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paul_p |
(we're 16) |
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bg |
heh |
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bg |
that would be too fast |
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bg |
paul_p++ |
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paul_p |
sustained_but_managed_growth++ |
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bg |
16 is pretty awesome |
| 07:07 |
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bg |
sustained_but_managed_growth++ |
| 07:07 |
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bg |
agreed |
| 07:08 |
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paul_p |
yep. Sometimes when I wake up in the morning I think : "hey, you're managing a company that should do 1 million € of income this year. Are you dreaming ?" |
| 07:08 |
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bg |
heh - that keeps me up at night |
| 07:08 |
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bg |
hence why I'm here |
| 07:08 |
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paul_p |
(reaching a 7digit number will be a huge step, at least psychollogically speaking ;-) ) |
| 07:08 |
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bg |
;) |
| 07:09 |
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bg |
or maybe it's stupid RFP |
| 07:09 |
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bg |
's that keep me up |
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| 07:10 |
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paul_p |
the more stupid RFP I ever saw saw one asking, i'm not kidding 1400 questions, and it was a library with 3 librarians and less than 30 000 items !!! |
| 07:10 |
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bg |
OMG |
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paul_p |
(we did not answer ;-) ) |
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bg |
good call |
| 07:11 |
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paul_p |
another one that was funny was one published on 2011, march, 1st saying "the system will be live on 2011, April 30th" |
| 07:11 |
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bg |
sometimes - I just want to send a single page back that says " YES of course " |
| 07:12 |
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paul_p |
(we answered saying: "hey it's impossible, here is our timeline". a new RFP just being issued last week without the "live on april" :D |
| 07:12 |
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paul_p |
bg: you mean "yes we can" ? :D |
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bg |
:) |
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bg |
yup |
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rangi |
evening |
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magnuse |
kia ora rangi |
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bg |
heya rangi++ |
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bg |
it's rant about RFP time :) |
| 07:14 |
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bg |
to bad there isn't a proprietary channel |
| 07:14 |
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* magnuse |
will get to answer his first rfp soonish, hopefully |
| 07:15 |
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bg |
magnuse - you'll regret those words ;) |
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rangi |
heh |
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magnuse |
@wunder marseille |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 13.0�C (9:00 AM CEST on March 31, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). |
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bg |
@wunder 93109 |
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huginn |
bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 15.8�C (12:15 AM PDT on March 31, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015.5 hPa (Steady). |
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rangi |
rfp cost so much to answer |
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rangi |
i wonder if libraries realise that by using them |
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bg |
no they do not |
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rangi |
they make everything cost more for themselves |
| 07:15 |
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magnuse |
rangi: yeah, it seems like a really wasteful process |
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magnuse |
but on the other hand, it is a way for newcomers like me to get a foot in the door |
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rangi |
not often |
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rangi |
open tender works much better for that |
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rangi |
where you can actually pitch a solution |
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bg |
RFP |
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rangi |
rather than spend weeks answering questions that are pointless |
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magnuse |
otherwise, i can picture all too vividly averyone just byuing from the same old "safe" vendors |
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bg |
's aren't written for open source |
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rangi |
thats pretty much what they do with RFP |
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rangi |
because only the same old ones have enough money to spend answering them |
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paul_p |
hi rangi & magnuse |
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rangi |
and they are written in a way that makes it hard to answer |
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magnuse |
open tender? hoe does that work? a library would just say "show us what you got"? |
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magnuse |
bonjour paul_p |
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bg |
and the nice thing about what we do - is that we can do anything |
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rangi |
when you dont have an out of the box |
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rangi |
magnuse: yeah basically, 'we want a solution to run our library .. what have you got' |
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bg |
it's if you want a system that can meet your needs |
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rangi |
yeah |
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bg |
then let's talk |
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magnuse |
hmm... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_tender |
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bg |
magnuse - good luck with your first - best of luck to you.. |
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rangi |
or even an rfp where they have thought about it |
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rangi |
not cut and paste from 1971 :) |
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bg |
magnuse++ you can do it |
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magnuse |
thanks bg - i just know there is a small consortium that has said they will do an rfp, so i'm waiting for that to happen |
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rangi |
open tender is what hauraki did |
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bg |
:) go for it |
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rangi |
with the double envelope system |
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rangi |
koha won on both |
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rangi |
technical mertis |
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rangi |
merits |
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rangi |
and price |
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bg |
heh - I liked mertis - sounded better |
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kf |
morning #koha |
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rangi |
lets invent it |
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bg |
heya kf |
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rangi |
hi kf |
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magnuse |
it's an intersting time in norway - the norwegian vendor of services for aleph have said they will stop selling those services, so libraries using aleph must buy support from abroad or find a new system... |
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kf |
hi bg and rangi :) |
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kf |
magnuse: weird |
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magnuse |
guten morgen kf |
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rangi |
oh its a digital imaging thermometer |
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bg |
sounds like a good time for you and koha |
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kf |
rangi: are you arond a bit longer? |
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rangi |
yep |
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bg |
rangi is always here |
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paul_p |
in France, we have a few specialists that help libraries writing RFP. One is well known to have a standard RFP, that is 20years old, and he just changes a few lines since then. So some questions are really funny. Like "how many items can you attach to a given biblio" |
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magnuse |
bg: yeah, but the problem is getting that foot in the door, and i'm hardly the born salesman |
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kf |
hm not always :) |
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rangi |
paul_p: yep, we may have the same specialists hehe |
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paul_p |
magnuse, really ? (aleph announcement) |
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bg |
yup foot in the door is key... the nice thing now is that you can let koha talk for you |
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rangi |
sometimes i think our rfp are written in french, thats how much i understand them :) |
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bg |
that's how we did it |
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magnuse |
paul_p: i recently did a presentation for a consortium of school - they lend out standard text books, so they may have in the area of 10.000 items for some of their records... |
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magnuse |
bg: trouvle is, i don't think librarians in norway are tuned to a very wide specter of input... |
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bg |
heh |
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paul_p |
magnuse, I propose we will speak of this next week ! |
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magnuse |
paul_p: yes, really |
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magnuse |
pail_p: definitely! |
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* eythian |
is off home, but I hope you all read through my plans for the account system on koha-devel and say they're completely perfect :) |
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* magnuse |
looks at his own spelling with disgust |
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rangi |
:) |
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Space_Librarian_home |
:) |
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rangi |
how was the mac and cheese Space_Librarian_home ? |
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bg |
I only see something from Robin not eythian |
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bg |
heh - that was a response from a RFP |
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eythian |
bg: yeah, one's a typo for the other |
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bg |
just showing how stupid RFP |
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bg |
's can be |
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Space_Librarian_home |
will be out the oven in about 5. smells good though |
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francharb |
morning @koha! |
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kf |
hi francharb :) |
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magnuse |
bonjour francharb |
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kf |
only... 3 days now :) |
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francharb |
;) |
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* bg |
is glad that eythian is working on accountlines |
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bg |
eythian++ |
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rangi |
hi francharb |
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kf |
eythian++ |
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kf |
very glad too |
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AmitG |
heya kf |
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* magnuse |
is all confused by the new nicks... |
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bg |
heh |
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* bg |
= brendan |
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bg |
also brendan_ = brendan |
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francharb |
magnuse: never played the game "guess who?" ? http://cdn.caughtoffside.com/w[…]/07/guess_who.jpg |
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francharb |
;) |
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magnuse |
francharb: i would stink at that - i'm terrible with names and faces... |
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francharb |
hehe |
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kf |
ok |
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kf |
herei s my question :) |
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kf |
bug 5839 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5839 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Add mapping for items.stocknumber to MARC21 |
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kf |
I don#t understand why it should be wrong to pick 1062 |
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* magnuse |
wanders off to find breakfast |
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kf |
because the description of this attribute is exactly what a stocknumber/inventorynumber is |
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kf |
as I see it the 8000 are kind of like 9xx in MARC21? |
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rangi |
hmm |
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rangi |
i have no idea |
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kf |
I asked our format expert |
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kf |
she says 1062 is the choice she would have made too :( |
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marcelr |
morning koha; kf around? |
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marcelr |
kf: 1062.. please see http://www.loc.gov/z3950/agency/defns/bib1.html |
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kf |
yep |
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kf |
writing comment now |
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kf |
Number-local-acquisition 1062 Document acquisition number assigned by the system. |
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kf |
that'sit |
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kf |
I asked around here at work too - my experts say 1062 is correct |
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marcelr |
ok |
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kf |
sorry :) |
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marcelr |
and inventory number? |
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kf |
didn't want to sound rude or something, only very tired this morning and was away all day yesterday |
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kf |
the German word is Inventarnummer |
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marcelr |
i would prefer inventory |
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kf |
so it sounds much better to me |
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kf |
I am not sure though that we should rename the index |
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kf |
the other index names are called like the fields it seems |
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marcelr |
signed your first patch alreadu with stock |
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kf |
ok |
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kf |
so you don't want me to change the naming in the frameworks? |
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kf |
the description.. |
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marcelr |
i would prefer to rename |
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kf |
index or frameworks? |
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kf |
renaming is not a big deal, I only want to avoid confusion |
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marcelr |
framework at least; we could have indexes withalias |
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kf |
hm |
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kf |
that about an alias inv |
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kf |
what about... sorry |
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kf |
I would ike that |
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kf |
easy to teach my librarians |
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marcelr |
so? |
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wahanui |
so is there an expirationdate and an expiredate? |
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kf |
have the full name stocknumber, have an alias inv |
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kf |
would that work? |
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kf |
for the index |
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marcelr |
probably |
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kf |
and I will change the frameworks too |
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marcelr |
ok i look for your submit |
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kf |
perhaps we should ask some native speakers before we change the descriptions? |
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marcelr |
i mailed the list yesterday; zeno responded |
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kf |
zeno is from italy - not sure if inventory number only sounds better to us |
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kf |
becaue it resembles our words for it |
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marcelr |
maybe someone here?? |
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kf |
yeah, I hoped someone would say something now.. :) |
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kf |
perhaps too early |
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marcelr |
ye |
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kf |
I will ask around when working on the patch later today |
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marcelr |
ok |
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kf |
and thx for testing - hope we find a good solution .) |
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marcelr |
no problem |
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kf |
did you say the patch removing uniqueness from the field? |
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marcelr |
say or see |
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kf |
I followed paul's suggestion - hope that is ok for you too? |
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kf |
see |
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marcelr |
fine |
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kf_mtg |
ok, meeting time |
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paul_p |
hi marcelr |
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paul_p |
kf_mtg, & marcelr = inventory number is perfect for frenchies ! we say "Numéro d'inventaire" |
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marcelr |
ok |
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bg |
night #koha |
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rangi |
night bg |
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night bg |
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New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6004/3270: Sending things "home" <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8164905788ba5a78b> / Bug 5305: CCL query, then resort, loses reults. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f2457daf1a83f834b> |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5988 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, SearchMyLibraryFirst preference appears twice in english opac.pref file |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5305 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, Resorting results of CCL queries fails in Staff Client |
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magnuse |
yay! |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6005 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, wizzyrea, ASSIGNED, Transit slips cause Firefox 4 to display "prevent this page from opening additional dialogs" |
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magnuse |
o/ |
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magnuse |
wow, is it that time of the day already... |
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kf |
you say it |
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kf |
and another meeting ahead |
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druthb |
hi, magnus n cait! o/ |
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* gmcharlt |
blearily waves from yet another airport |
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kf |
paul_p: looking at your mail and the google docs right now :) |
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* kf |
waves to gmcharlt |
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kf |
need some coffee? |
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kf |
\o ruth :) |
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* magnuse |
hans gmcharlt some coffee |
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magnuse |
s/hans/hands/ |
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* magnuse |
did the s/// thing in skype chat once and was rather surprised when it actually worked... |
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gmcharlt |
magnuse: seriously? wow |
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gmcharlt |
(and thanks for the coffee ;) ) |
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magnuse |
gmcharlt: yvw - and yes, i think it was skype where s/// worked! i did a double take - "what the dickens just happened there?" |
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AmitG |
heya jwagner |
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jwagner |
Hi AmitG |
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* jwagner |
wishes an excessively happy day to everyone! It's baseball's Opening Day! Yippeeeeeee! |
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druthb |
happy Opening Day, jwagner. :) |
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jwagner |
And thanks to whoever posted this link a while back: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04KQydlJ-qc |
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druthb |
hehehe |
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kf |
hm dieses video ist in ihrem land nicht verfügbar |
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kf |
this video is not available in your coutnry |
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jwagner |
kf, it's the John Fogerty video of Centerfield -- it was posted a while back when we were talking about baseball. |
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kf |
thx jwagner |
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kf |
I had this problem with rangi showing me nz music things too |
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The local news channel has been playing snatches of it, Bruce Springsteen's Glory Days, and other baseball-related songs when they do the Opening Day weather forecast |
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oleonard |
Cool Bunsen logo on my Google this morning |
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oleonard |
Geeky enough to know the +1 reference (http://laughingmeme.org/2011/0[…]ng-your-history/), but not cool enough to see it in my Google I guess. |
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oleonard |
Bug 4040 still unsatisfied |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4040 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Placing a hold on an item while it is in transit results in duplicate dialogs upon check-in |
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oleonard |
Re-worded it to match the specifics |
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oleonard |
julian: Where did you take the screenshot attached to bug 5963? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5963 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, Acquisitions: Add the capability to have a filter by active budget |
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julian |
oleonard: on the neworderempty.pl page, why? |
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oleonard |
I want to test it |
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julian |
Ok, sorry to not mentionned it ;) |
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oleonard |
I think I understand why the layout is messed up, so I want to see what I can do with it |
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oleonard |
julian: Besides the layout problem, did you find that the checkbox worked? |
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oleonard |
It's not clear to me what kind of funds are hidden by default |
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wizzyrea |
oleonard: was that tested with old holds/already in transit holds or new holds? |
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wizzyrea |
on 4040 |
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oleonard |
1. Check in item to make it in transit |
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oleonard |
2. Place hold on item |
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oleonard |
3. Check in item |
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wizzyrea |
so you're talking about an item transited home then held/checked out again |
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julian |
oleonard: in fact i didn't manage to create a fund for an inactive budget, fund is created in database, but does not appear in aqbudgets.pl |
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oleonard |
wizzyrea: In my test the item is not in transit because of a hold, just because it was it was checked in at another branch |
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wizzyrea |
right |
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wizzyrea |
that I don't think is one of our test scenarios, it will be now |
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tests that |
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julian |
oleonard: i think the 'hidden by default' funds are the funds that are in an inactive budget |
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wizzyrea |
oleonard: yep I see |
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wizzyrea |
hm, have we ever seen the code referenced here? http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3246 |
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huginn |
Bug 3246: enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Looking for a way to customize the patron slips (receipts) |
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wizzyrea |
by drulm |
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wizzyrea |
drdrulm, that is |
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mib_wh0squ |
hi a client accidentally deleted a field under "add marc record" how do i put it back? the specific field is personal name |
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oleonard |
mib_wh0squ: You deleted it in the framework editor? |
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mib_wh0squ |
yes |
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oleonard |
Do you have another framework you could copy the details from? |
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mib_wh0squ |
no |
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oleonard |
mib_wh0squ: You could use this as a reference: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]83315279c;hb=HEAD |
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oleonard |
You could even use that to send a direct update to mysql if you have access to it. |
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had better shut down just in case |
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mib_wh0squ |
thanks will try it |
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tcohen |
hi #koha |
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tcohen |
it was a nice thread on koha-devel about the workflow |
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hi tcohen |
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rhcl |
can anybody recommend a good, intro level sql book w/ lots of examples for our tech services people? |
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oleonard |
That was faster than I expected. |
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rhcl |
we're getting a "connect failed to z3950.loc.gov" (and other z3950 sites). Is anybody else having z39.50 problems? |
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rhcl |
w/in Koha, I should specify. We can ping it and even http it. |
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oleonard |
rhcl: I got z39.50 results back from LOC just fine |
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rhcl |
telnet z3950.loc.gov 7090 connects, but our koha clients (reflecting the server?) can't |
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oleonard |
I have a question about Koha/MARC links |
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oleonard |
On marctagstructure.pl it says "If you change the link between a MARC subfield and a non-MARC field, ask your administrator to run misc/batchRebuildBiblioTables.pl script" |
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oleonard |
On marc_subfields_structure.pl, next to the "link" field, it says "Warning: This value should not change after data has been added to your catalog" |
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oleonard |
Are these not talking about the same thing? |
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oleonard |
Hi ether |
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harrumphs. Four hours into my working day, I can finally get started on my "real" work that I was planning on doing today.... |
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tcohen |
rhcl: r u running telnet on the koha server? |
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rhcl |
OK, appears to be a DNS problem--changed to a known good DNS server from our ISP and we're back |
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Oak |
\o |
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magnuse |
o/ |
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oleonard |
|o| |
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oleonard |
wizzyrea: Have you seen damaged items show up on the holds queue report lately? |
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oleonard |
Hm, perhaps the holds queue report doesn't exclude damaged items? I thought it did |
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oleonard |
No, I guess not. It checks for notforloan, itemlost, and wthdrawn |
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oleonard |
Bug 4870 I guess |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4870 normal, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, Damaged status does not prevent items from being selected for reserves |
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oleonard |
wizzyrea: I took a stab and a partial fix for Bug 4870 and could use your feedback on that and my comments there |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4870 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Damaged status does not prevent items from being selected for reserves |
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tcohen |
hi ti all, i'd like to ask if anyone has any thoughts on zebraqueue_daemon making it into 3.4 |
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oleonard |
tcohen: Offer fabulous prize in exchange for a patch sign-off? :) |
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tcohen |
i even have it signed-off by julian from biblibre! |
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tcohen |
i can make argentina loose against nz in a seven match :-P |
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tcohen |
i can offer a great asado in the second half of may that i'll be in spain for some days |
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oleonard |
tcohen: If you've got a signoff then you're in good shape. You'll just have to wait and see from here. |
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tcohen |
oleonard: thanks, i realized feature freeze was tomorrow (perhaps today in nz) so i got impatient hehe |
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sekjal |
tcohen: is the bug report updated to Patch-Sent and Signed Off? |
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kf_mtg |
oleonard: wondered about your patch for damaged items holds |
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kf_mtg |
should this not be controlled by AllowHoldsOnDamagedItems? |
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kf_mtg |
our libraries don't take damaged items out of circulation |
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kf_mtg |
it's only additional information, so borrower is not charged on return |
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kf_mtg |
item was damaged already on checkout |
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oleonard |
kf_mtg: I wasn't aware of that preference. The holds queue build script didn't take it into account |
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oleonard |
So perhaps the holds queue script should ignore the damaged status if AllowHoldsOnDamagedItems is set to "allow" |
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kf_mtg |
yep |
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kf_mtg |
:) |
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have to leave now - will be back from h ome a little later |
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rangi |
tcohen: the feature freeze im not going to stop anything thats already been submitted for signoff |
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rangi |
only new stuff so you are fine |
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rangi |
anything that is in the signed-off |
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rangi |
or needs signoff queue is still eligible |
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rangi |
any new feature that isnt in either otoh .. that ill set to 3.6 |
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magnuse |
yay! |
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rangi |
so any patches you havent sent yet, do it now! :) |
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is typing as fast as he can |
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rangi |
:) |
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* magnuse |
has sent all the patches he meant to do now |
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rangi |
bug fixes will be accepted after |
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rangi |
its just new features this freeze is for |
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magnuse |
that's cool |
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jwagner |
rangi, sorry, when is the freeze again? |
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jwagner |
I have a bug fix I need to send in; just haven't got it done yet. |
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rangi |
feauture freeze is end of april 1 in whatever timezone you are (april 2 nztime essentially) |
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rangi |
string freeze is 8th april |
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jwagner |
Ah. So I'd better get it in today or tomorrow, then :-) |
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jwagner |
It's a fix, not a new feature. |
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rangi |
any bugs that change templates need to be in by the 8th |
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rangi |
yeah that has until the 8th |
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rangi |
or longer if it doesnt touch templates |
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jwagner |
OK, will try to get it done. It doesn't touch templates. |
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nengard_lunch |
magnuse i tested the patch for bug 5671 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5671 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED, Add a column of custom HTML to "my summary" |
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nengard_lunch |
and added comments |
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magnuse |
thanks nengard, i'll see to fixing that as soon as i can (but the tabs were ok for me, hm...) |
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nengard |
and now i see that sekjal was also testing at the same time |
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nengard |
i missed his comments |
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nengard |
i'm in FF4 if that helps with the tabs |
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sekjal |
and I'm in FF 3.6 |
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rangi |
you should definitely note that on bugs nengard |
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nengard |
i usually do |
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rangi |
because most ppl wont be running 4 yet |
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nengard |
just rushing around today |
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rangi |
cool |
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* magnuse |
is flattered to have his patch tested so quickly, and embarassed to cause errors... |
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nengard |
magnuse it's an awesome feature so of course we jumped on testing it :) hehe |
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nengard |
and we all make mistakes |
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magnuse |
thanks |
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rangi |
nice work by slef |
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rangi |
http://lisvendor.info/index.php?title=Main_Page |
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rangi |
got the license changed to CC-BY |
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rangi |
ok, lots of meetings today, i should go make myself look presentable |
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rangi |
bbiab |
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ducks out early |
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magnuse |
slef++ |
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cait |
hi all |
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tcohen |
rangi: thanks for your answer, maybe some day i'll cook a big asado for you |
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magnuse |
nengard, sekjal: i can't seem to reproduce those broken tabs - tried ff 3.6 on win & linux, 4 on os x... |
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magnuse |
but when i try to lend something now i get this: Can't call method "output" on an undefined value at /home/magnus/kohahead/C4/Circulation.pm line 2713. anyone seen that? line 2713 is: if ( $hardduedate->output('iso') && $hardduedate->output('iso') ne '0000-00-00') { |
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rangi |
back |
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bg |
wb |
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sekjal |
magnuse: whoops |
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sekjal |
should probably be testing on $hardduedate, not the output |
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rangi |
hmm when did that sneak in |
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magnuse |
sekjal, rangi: you mean i'm not going mad after all? |
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sekjal |
magnuse: nope, my fault |
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* cait |
waves to rangi |
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rangi |
heya cait |
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sekjal |
magnuse: do you have an applicable circ rule for the combo of branch/itemtype/patron category you're using? |
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rangi |
did you hear sirsidynix have decided to reignite horizon development? |
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cait |
oh! |
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magnuse |
sekjal: actually, i don't think i have |
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magnuse |
sekjal: removing 2x ->output('iso')�made the error go away |
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cait |
is there news somewhere? |
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sekjal |
okay, that's it. I've got record of this coming up in testing, but no followup |
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sekjal |
so, it looks like HardDueDates break the default circ period of 21 days |
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rangi |
I think I read it in library news weekly |
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* wizzyrea |
makes note of the date in NZ |
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rangi |
:P |
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wizzyrea |
but yea, horizon, srsly. |
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cait |
hmpf |
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cait |
*sighs* |
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* cait |
makes a mental note: no cookies for rangi today |
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rangi |
hehe |
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cait |
we migrated our first library from horizon to koha this month - and they seem very happy so far :) |
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rangi |
yay |
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rangi |
SpaceLibrarian_home: how are we gonna top drinking with the national librarian today? |
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sekjal |
magnuse: you only need to remove the first ->output('iso'); the second checks for data integrity and such |
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sekjal |
submitting a follow up patch now |
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magnuse |
sekjal: right you are |
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cait |
ah |
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cait |
I wanted to ask something once more people are around :) |
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cait |
stock number? inventory number? accession number? What is the right description for the new field stocknumber in items? we have some votes on inventory number at the moment |
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cait |
hm |
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sekjal |
magnuse: patch sent |
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SpaceLibrarian_home |
rangi: I'm not entirely sure... |
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SpaceLibrarian_home |
I'm sure we can think of something. |
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SpaceLibrarian_home |
wizzyrea: I made mac cheese last night too. It was fantastic. ;) |
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wizzyrea |
SpaceLibrarian_home: |
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wizzyrea |
nice! |
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wizzyrea |
oops lol |
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wizzyrea |
yay for international dinner synchronicity |
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wizzyrea |
! |
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SpaceLibrarian_home |
yes! |
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wizzyrea |
do you think this is too many tabs? http://screencast.com/t/5XeH4rBg3 |
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schuster |
Is there an easy way to pull the summary from a group of books via sql? |
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rangi |
wizzyrea: yes, yes i do |
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schuster |
hmmm dropped in on rangi's comment to wizzyrea - yes yes I do.... have to go back and read... I found abstract for my question so I'm good thanks! |
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rangi |
sekjal: bug 4157 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4157 enhancement, P5, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED, Display of barcode in checked out items in OPAC |
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sekjal |
rangi: right |
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SpaceLibrarian_home |
right. time for work. bbiab. :) |
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rangi |
the transport matrix one is up too :) getting htere |
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cait |
dealing with biblibre's branches? |
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rangi |
no those are new work ones, biblibres branches are pretty much done |
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rangi |
sekjal: bug 5578 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5578 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED, SCO using login for authentication |
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rangi |
is that what the follow up is for? |
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sekjal |
oh geeze, did I get the wrong number? |
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sekjal |
argh |
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rangi |
that one hasnt been pushed yet, so im guessing so :) |
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rangi |
tell the right number ill commit --amend :) |
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sekjal |
5548 |
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sekjal |
so, I was close :) |
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rangi |
:) |
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cait |
rangi :cool :) |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_5548' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a9ce3f4bb49b9dc73> / Bug 5578 Followup: Hard Due Dates break hard-coded default circ rule <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6f17a588f56a39870> |
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schuster |
bug 5548 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5548 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED, Hard Due Dates Circ Rule |
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sekjal |
rangi: thanks |
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rangi |
no problemo |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build 95 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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rangi |
its pretty sweet how fast it was caught and fixed |
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cait |
oh bug 6024 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6024 enhancement, P5, ---, chris, NEW, Run a Report immediately after creating or editing |
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cait |
that's a good thing |
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rangi |
yup |
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rangi |
thanks space_librarian for making the bug |
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space_librarian |
I got it right? |
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rangi |
yup |
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space_librarian |
:) |
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cait |
:) |
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rangi |
ohh heres a handy one! |
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rangi |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]40ad8f01cd374d144 |
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sekjal |
neat! |
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rangi |
ill just fix the license and copyright and send the patch |
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rangi |
i love git add ; git commit --amend |
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bg |
@wunder 93109 |
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huginn |
bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 33.6�C (1:34 PM PDT on March 31, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 20%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Falling). |
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bg |
man it's freaking hot here today... |
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* bg |
is almost ready to work in the buff |
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wizzyrea |
!!! |
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rangi |
thank god there isnt webcams in irc |
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bg |
:D |
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bg |
@wunder wellington nz |
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huginn |
bg: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0�C (9:00 AM NZDT on April 01, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
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bg |
wanna trade rangi? |
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wizzyrea |
@wunder lawrence ks |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 4.8�C (3:37 PM CDT on March 31, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.73 in 1006.7 hPa (Falling). |
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rangi |
naw, im wearing long sleeves |
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wizzyrea |
yea, eat it |
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wizzyrea |
it's cold here. |
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bg |
I walk outside and melt |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 10.9�C (10:40 PM CEST on March 31, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.26 in 1024.6 hPa (Steady). |
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gmcharlt |
@wunder 32605 |
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huginn |
gmcharlt: The current temperature in Central Gainesville, Gainesville, Florida is 23.6�C (4:42 PM EDT on March 31, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 29.57 in 1001.2 hPa (Steady). |
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gmcharlt |
the rain is following me |
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rangi |
heh |
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bg |
rain rain go away |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #95: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/95/ |
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jenkins_koha |
Ian Walls: Bug 5578 Followup: Hard Due Dates break hard-coded default circ rule |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5578 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED, SCO using login for authentication |
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rangi |
cool |
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eythian |
@wunder honiara |
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huginn |
eythian: The current temperature in Honiara / Henderson, Solomon Islands is 25.0�C (8:00 AM SBT on April 01, 2011). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 24.0�C. Pressure: 29.84 in 1010 hPa (Rising). |
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eythian |
that's what I remember, a nice cool morning there :) |
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jcamins_away |
eythian: is there any log from rebuild_zebra with the packages? |
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eythian |
jcamins_away: not as such, but any messages it produces will be emailed to root by cron. |
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jcamins_away |
Hm. |
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jcamins_away |
So what do you do if your system inexplicably stops searching? |
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jcamins_away |
(after a reindex) |
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eythian |
check the daemon is running (sudo /etc/init.d/koha-common restart) |
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eythian |
to do a full index, I usually do, e.g: |
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eythian |
sudo -u 'opus-koha' -H env PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib KOHA_CONF='/etc/koha/sites/opus/koha-conf.xml' /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -v -r |
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jcamins_away |
Okay, thanks. |
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eythian |
although there is a patch that I haven't done anything with just yet to give the rebuild script the option to be verbose. |
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eythian |
(as in, the package rebuild script) |
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jcamins_away |
If you submit it before the end of the day, I'll sign off on it before string freeze. :) |
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eythian |
I'll try to do that :) when's the end of your day? |
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eythian |
actually, I'll just do it after writing this email. |
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jcamins_away |
No, not my end of day. |
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jcamins_away |
Your end of day. |
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eythian |
oh, OK |
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jcamins_away |
Chris said anything that's not been sent to the list by the end of your day can't get in. |
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rangi |
jcamins_away: thats feature freeze |
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rangi |
string freeze isnt until the 8th |
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jcamins_away |
Oh. |
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eythian |
it's still a feature :) |
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jcamins_away |
I meant feature freeze. |
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rangi |
if its a bug, its ok, new feature today is cut off |
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rangi |
yep |
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jcamins_away |
Either way, end of the day for eythian, not for me. |
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jcamins_away |
;) |
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cait |
oh |
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cait |
I thought end of 1st my day? |
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rangi |
ill let you do that |
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cait |
not sure I will make it though... but still a chance then :) |
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jcamins_away |
cait: but that's for features from you. |
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jcamins_away |
And eythian is in NZ. ;) |
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cait |
aha! |
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eythian |
jcamins_away: just checked that patch, looks good, will send it soon. |
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jcamins_away |
Thanks. |
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jcamins_away |
I won't be able to sign off on it until Saturday, but this way Chris might be willing to include it in 3.4. |
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rangi |
as long as its submitted for signoff, its eligible |
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eythian |
jcamins_away: Bug 6031 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6031 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED, koha-rebuild-zebra doesn't allow XML and verbose indexing |
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jcamins_away |
Thanks. |
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jcamins_away |
eythian++ |
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cait |
ok, time to get some sleep - so I get a chance to make use of tomorrow :) |
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cait |
good night all |
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rangi |
:) |
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rangi |
night |
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rangi |
jcamins_away: what do you reckon the chances are of getting in the osslabs analytics work |
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rangi |
given colin and you both seem mostly happy with it, im pretty inclined to merge it in |
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jcamins_away |
Hm. |
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jcamins_away |
That's reasonable. |
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jcamins_away |
My one concern is that they still don't populate even the default framework. |
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rangi |
afaict it causes no regressions |
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rangi |
ahh maybe ill wait for that and ping them on that |
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rangi |
say thats what is holding back it being merged |
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rangi |
ta |
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jcamins_away |
Once you work out *why* the analytics stuff doesn't work, it works well, but every time I've tested (on different data), it's taken me hours to realize that's the problem. |
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rangi |
yeah that sounds like something that should be fixed first |
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rangi |
righto thanks |
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jcamins_away |
You're welcome. |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5990: Lists and Cart show LOC code not Location Authorized value <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6e4b5c20f3dd6dc93> / Bumping database version number <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7c100f235d468d3a6> / Bug 5957: Making COiNS in OPAC search results optional <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b/?p=koha.git;a=c |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build 96 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #96: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/96/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5828 - notes for purchase suggestions not showing in the staff client |
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jenkins_koha |
* Matthias Meusburger: Bug 4943: Search history cookie size limit |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5828 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, notes for purchase suggestions not showing in the staff client |
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jenkins_koha |
* Ian Walls: Bug 5957: Making COiNS in OPAC search results optional |
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jenkins_koha |
* Chris Cormack: Bumping database version number |
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jenkins_koha |
* Ian Walls: Bug 5990: Lists and Cart show LOC code not Location Authorized value |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4943 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, Search history cookie size limit |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5957 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED, COiNS in the OPAC search results should be optional |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5990 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED, Lists and Cart show LOC code, not Location Authorized value |
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rangi |
whoa what a dick |
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jcamins_away |
"The seventeen that say what they do?" |
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rangi |
yeah |
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rangi |
from a liblimer no less |
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jcamins_away |
But, hey, what do I know? |
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jcamins_away |
I just read the manual. |
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rangi |
would |
