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Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.2.5 is now available | Next IRC meeting 6 Apr. 2011 10:00 UTC+0 | http://koha-community.org | This channel is logged | Pastes at http://paste.koha-community.org |
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rangi |
@later tell gmcharlt we are missing a bot |
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rangi |
heh, that wont work |
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rangi |
cos thats the bot we are missing |
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AmitG |
space_librarian: India |
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space_librarian |
Yes? India should beat Australia. Well, I *really* hope they do. Aus have been inconsistent in form of late... |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build 58 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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rangi |
137 people now have committed code to Koha |
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kmkale |
hi rangi |
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* rangi |
just added 2 more to the history file |
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kmkale |
hi AmitG |
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kmkale |
hi space_librarian |
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space_librarian |
hi kmkale! |
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AmitG |
heya kmkale |
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kmkale |
Kohacon11 registrations : 92 from 15 countries so far :) |
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rangi |
excellent! |
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space_librarian |
yay! |
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kmkale |
http://kohacon11.vpmthane.org/[…]Conf/registration |
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* space_librarian |
remembers she needs to do something about a paper herself... |
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kmkale |
space_librarian: :) |
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* kmkale |
is searching for rangi's registration :( |
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rangi |
still have to figure out if i can make it, wont know for a month or 2 |
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space_librarian |
I know I've registered, I just need to submit something. |
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kmkale |
Kohacon without chris? :( |
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space_librarian |
+1 |
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space_librarian |
there's always a live feed if necessary... |
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rangi |
i could do what olugbenga did at kohacon10 |
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kmkale |
Not the same. |
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kmkale |
rangi I implore you to make it. |
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rangi |
like i said, i wont know if i can or not for a couple of months |
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* kmkale |
is good at pestering ;) |
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wishes kmkale luck |
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rangi |
ahh its not me you have to convince, it will be the people who pay the bills, and my wife |
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kmkale |
let me at them. :) |
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rangi |
http://stats.workbuffer.org/ir[…]g/koha/2011-03-21 |
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rangi |
check out the new filtering by nick |
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kmkale |
cool |
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kmkale |
rangi++ |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #58: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/58/ |
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jenkins_koha |
Chris Cormack: Adding 2 more developers to the history 137 now! |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build 59 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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Project Koha_master build #59: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/59/ |
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* Jesse Weaver: Bug 4878 - Command-line tool for getting and setting sysprefs |
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* Savitra Sirohi: Bug 5466 - Acquisitions - ability to set currency in order screens |
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* Colin Campbell: Bug 5466 On new orders get currency from vendor |
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glernil |
good day! |
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rangi |
hi glernil |
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rangi |
hi eythian_ |
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eythian_ |
hullo |
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eythian_ |
rangi: think I can arrange to have the aircon turned up at work for when I arrive? I think I'll freeze otherwise. |
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rangi |
heh |
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rangi |
you acclimatised now? |
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eythian_ |
yeah :/ |
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eythian_ |
turning the AC off because it's too cold when it's set to 25... |
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rangi |
wont take long to switch back id imagine |
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eythian_ |
probably not, no. Also, the weekend in Nelson will be a nice in-between. |
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rangi |
yep |
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eythian_ |
I am never complaining about the cost of internet in NZ again - here it's NZ$50 for 7days/250MB |
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just ran out of his first quota |
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rangi |
youch |
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rangi |
yeah, we certainly arent the worst in the world |
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rangi |
right i now have a branch that tracks master, but is running template::toolkit, so im mirroring the changes to master and there |
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rangi |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]/new/enh/bug_5917 |
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rangi |
i need to get people testing it |
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eythian_ |
I made the mistake of demoing installing the koha packages by removing them from my system and reinstalling them. Forgetting they'd take about an hour to download here. |
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rangi |
ack |
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rangi |
things to remember for next time |
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rangi |
timor etc |
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rangi |
take a usb stick with the git repo checked out on it |
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rangi |
plus a bunch of packages :) |
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rangi |
hmm i wonder if we could make a bootable usb stick, with the git repo and pbuilder on it |
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rangi |
fetch a few git changes is much less bandwidth |
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eythian_ |
not a silly idea |
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eythian_ |
shouldn't be too hard, I already carry a bootable usb stick with Ubuntu NBR on it. |
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rangi |
*nod* |
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rangi |
farasat was asking about the livecd again, we need to somehow find time to do that too |
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eythian_ |
really do, yeah |
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rangi |
i wonder if we can get some sponsorship for work like that packaging etc |
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rangi |
like i got for release management |
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eythian_ |
that'd be good |
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eythian_ |
oh, SICHE is keen on something to archive digital records: turns out that being a developing country, they have free access to download a certain amount of things from places like proquest, so they want to make the best use of it while they can. |
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eythian_ |
so if you have any ideas on that front... |
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eythian_ |
I also mentioned the thing about integrating digital archiving stuff into Koha, but with the proviso it won't be in the near future. |
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rangi |
yeah |
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rangi |
anything that gives you a persistent url |
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rangi |
you can then catalogue in koha |
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rangi |
so have a unified search |
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eythian_ |
that's what I said, although I think they want to archive it locally. The ideal would be something that can host stuff and (semi-)automatically import the record into Koha with the correct URL |
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rangi |
so dspace, fedora, kete etc |
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rangi |
with a bit of work, so that the last bit of the submit redirects you to the cataloguing page in koha, with 856u prefilled |
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rangi |
somethign like that |
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eythian_ |
yeah, or loads records into the staging area perhaps. |
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rangi |
yep |
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rangi |
itd mostly need work at the digital library end |
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rangi |
not koha |
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eythian_ |
yeah, exporting something that can be transmogrified into a MARC record easily, and a bit of glue to put it into Koha |
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rangi |
yep |
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rangi |
dublin core would work |
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rangi |
theres a crosswalk to convert from it to marc21 |
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rangi |
at least |
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eythian_ |
that'd be alright. And nicer to work with than MARC. |
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eythian_ |
(well, I'd hope) |
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rangi |
yeah |
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AmitG |
heya indradg |
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indradg |
AmitG, morning! |
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rangi |
chris.hall++ |
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rangi |
his script allows me to do this |
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rangi |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6f8fc63bfd9cfeffe |
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rangi |
track changes in the .tmpl and apply them to the .tt files |
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indradg |
w00t! |
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rangi |
without that, my life would be a nightmare |
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indradg |
:) |
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rangi |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]/new/enh/bug_5917 |
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rangi |
tracks master |
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rangi |
but uses template::toolkit |
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rangi |
i would appreciate anyone who has time testing it |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build 60 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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rangi |
kf++ # one of the best commit messages ive seen in quite a while |
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rangi |
check this out http://git.koha-community.org/[…]60f533be26b3029d3 |
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rangi |
julian: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d99b82ee63237a001 |
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julian |
hello rangi |
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julian |
yeah \o/ |
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rangi |
:) |
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francharb |
hello all |
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rangi |
hi francharb and paul_p |
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paul_p |
hello rangi & al |
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rangi |
paul_p: did some work on 5581 today http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]1&hide_resolved=1 |
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paul_p |
yes, I saw the mails on bugs ml |
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rangi |
sophie_m: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d99b82ee63237a001 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #60: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/60/ |
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jenkins_koha |
Frédéric Demians: Bug 5065 Add ability to choose framework on import |
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sophie_m |
:-) |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build 61 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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kmkale |
heya paul_p |
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* paul_p |
feel kmkale will remember him that he still hasn't send the mail for KohaCon :'((( (and he will be right...) |
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paul_p |
hi kmkale ! |
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kmkale |
:) |
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* kmkale |
is good at pestering, as said already ;) |
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Project Koha_master build #61: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/61/ |
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* Katrin Fischer: Bug 5834: Holds link missing when 942$c is not for loan |
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* Frédéric Demians: Bug 5610 Script to force borr transport defaults messaging |
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* Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 5610: Add --since for setting messaging to default |
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conan |
good morning all |
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Soomro |
hi all |
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Soomro |
I want to install Koha on ubuntu version 10 |
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Soomro |
Im new user of linux, can any body sent me simple installation instruction steps for installing koha |
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Soomro |
can any body help me? |
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Soomro |
is there any body? |
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conan |
Soomro: there's a page on the subject in the wiki: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/Koha_on_Ubuntu |
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kmkale |
@quote random |
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kmkale |
@quote random |
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huh. It seems the bots are on a strike |
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jcamins |
Isn't it supposed to be getting spring-like? |
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sekjal |
jcamins: I know! it's snowing here, again |
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jcamins |
It keeps on going back and forth between pouring rain and snow. |
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jcamins |
The gale-force winds are constant. |
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cait |
hi #kohq |
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cait |
koha |
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druthb |
we had a fierce rainstorm this morning, but it has stopped. |
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cait |
sunshine... |
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cait |
@wunder Heilbronn |
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cait |
hm. |
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jcamins |
ben_shum++ # I'd never heard of ClusterSSH, but it sounds awesome! |
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indradg |
jcamins, yep ClusterSSH is indeed an awesome tool :) |
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gmcharlt |
@quote random |
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huginn |
gmcharlt: Quote #99: "slef: #kohaaaaargh for PTFS blog posts?" (added by wizzyrea at 07:10 PM, October 11, 2010) |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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wizzyrea |
that one makes me laugh |
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gmcharlt |
@wunder 32605 |
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huginn |
gmcharlt: The current temperature in Central Gainesville, Gainesville, Florida is 20.8�C (10:41 AM EDT on March 21, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027.0 hPa (Steady). |
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druthb |
@quote random |
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huginn |
druthb: Quote #61: "*wizzyrea doesn't like hoity toity technical talk...<wizzyrea> wait, that's a lie" (added by jdavidb at 05:19 PM, February 24, 2010) |
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heh |
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tcohen |
hi #koha |
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wizzyrea |
hi tcohen :) |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: is the exact problem reported in bug 3382 still a problem? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3382 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, Add classes to XSLT results and detail displays to facilitate CSS styling |
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wizzyrea |
let me look |
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jcamins |
Thanks. |
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jcamins |
Warning: current Master is broken. |
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wizzyrea |
yup, it's totally fixed |
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wizzyrea |
(I looked at our production, which is close enough) |
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wizzyrea |
to Master |
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jcamins |
Okay, don't close the bug because I'm using it. |
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wizzyrea |
oki |
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jcamins |
@later tell rangi Commit ddbedbfc2f17bff016736afb5beae39a768a298a (paul_p's fix for Bug 4430) broke Master for git installs by adding Makefile to the repository. |
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huginn |
jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
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jcamins |
@later tell rangi (and I don't really know what to do about it other than tell you) |
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huginn |
jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
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gmcharlt |
jcamins: sending a quick patch removing the Makefile might make it easier for rangi |
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jcamins |
gmcharlt: can I do that without breaking everyone's installation further? |
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gmcharlt |
jcamins: not sure what you mean; the problem is pretty simple - there should be no Makefile in the root of the source tree; a patch that removes the file will solve the immediate problem |
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jcamins |
Okay. |
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gmcharlt |
as far as consequences if somebody had run make in their dev-mode git repo, I assume it should be limited just to those people who had installed from git since yesterday |
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jcamins |
Okay, thanks. |
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still finds much of git to be an enigmatic black box. |
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jcamins |
@later tell rangi Sorry for all the messages. I sent a patch, since gmcharlt sensed my confusion and told me what to do. |
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huginn |
jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
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druthb |
jcamins++ |
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druthb |
gmcharlt++ |
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gmcharlt |
@later tell slef wrt http://groups.google.com/group[…]/5c28b750f9cbc3c0, I'm curious - is unapi's use of the <abbr> tag (like is done in Koha) an issue in practice for screen readers? |
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huginn |
gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
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jcamins |
Can an element have more than one class? |
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jcamins: <span class="my_class your_class everybody_has_a_class" ... |
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jcamins |
Thanks. |
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is glad to see somebody still has some class ;-) |
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gmcharlt |
we are all educators in this life, teaching each other |
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rangi |
how the hell did I miss seeing the makefile |
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chris_n |
sleep deprivation perhaps? |
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tcohen |
too much coffee |
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chris_n |
more likely not enough ;-) |
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rangi |
ahh it was in the pile of copyright changes |
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rangi |
my bad, i didnt pay enough attention as I thought they were all just comment changes, checked the first few |
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rangi |
will push the fix now, thanks jcamins |
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cait |
hi all :) |
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chris_n |
hi cait |
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jcamins |
Thanks. |
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cait |
hi chris_n |
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rangi |
hi cait |
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rangi |
new/enh/bug_5917 |
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cait |
hi rangi :) |
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cait |
bug 5917 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5917 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Switch Koha to use Template::Toolkit |
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Starting build 62 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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rangi |
this branch tracks master, but is running template toolkit |
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rangi |
after the feature freeze, it will become master (1st of april nz time) |
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cait |
oh |
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cait |
so soon? |
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rangi |
and a new branch will be created (just before that) so that i can apply old patches to it |
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rangi |
yes |
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chris_n |
if an item with a hold on it is checked into a branch other than its homebranch, shouldn't the hold notice still be sent? |
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rangi |
ill write an email today |
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rangi |
1st is feature freeze |
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rangi |
8th is string freeze |
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rangi |
22nd is release |
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chris_n |
AutomaticItemReturn is enabled |
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cait |
makes sense |
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chris_n |
rangi++ |
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cait |
why does time run so fast? |
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cait |
rangi++ |
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rangi |
all patches submitted before 1st are eligible still |
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cait |
ok |
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rangi |
but any new features submitted after that, will have to wait |
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cait |
so I still have a chance for some smaller projects :) |
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* chris_n |
's librarians are complaining about hold notices not being processed in such situations |
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rangi |
yep, and i will accept patches for .tmpl files, as chris.hall wrote a script that lets me convert them easy |
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rangi |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6f8fc63bfd9cfeffe |
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* rangi |
has been practicing |
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cait |
cool :) |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Remove errant Makefile and pm_to_blib from repo <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d078f11de702e9dc2> |
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cait |
rangi: I think a lot of the proposed features on the wiki have not been submitted :( |
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rangi |
no, no they havent |
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cait |
we should update those pages after feature freeze |
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rangi |
yep |
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rangi |
gotta go get the kids ready for kindergarten |
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cait |
and there is still a lot of things that need testing |
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rangi |
yes, thats why im freezing at 1st |
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jcamins |
I know we don't believe in cleaning code just for the heck of it, but what if we have 20 lines of duplicate code differing only by the string "target='_blank'"? |
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cait |
kindergarten :) |
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jcamins |
Can I *please* fix it? |
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rangi |
theres no way it will all get tested otherwise |
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rangi |
jcamins: we do believe in cleaning code for the heck of it |
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rangi |
we dont believe in mixing code cleaning |
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rangi |
and functional changes in one patch |
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rangi |
or doing a wholesale perltidy |
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jcamins |
rangi: Ah. |
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jcamins |
Got it. |
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rangi |
so go right ahead |
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* rangi |
wanders |
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rangi |
off |
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Project Koha_master build #62: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/62/ |
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jenkins_koha |
Jared Camins-Esakov: Remove errant Makefile and pm_to_blib from repo |
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rangi |
back |
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cait |
:) |
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rangi |
crowded bus today |
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rangi |
hi conan |
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conan |
hi there rangi, and everybody again |
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wizzyrea |
hi conan |
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conan |
Q: I'm looking for db structure graphics and/or explanation/synthesis, didn't find much in a general search, and looking in the community wiki I see that there are no new info on koha > 3.0.3 |
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conan |
so my question is |
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conan |
are those documents accurate, I mean, has the DB changed too much to make those documents obsolete, or can they be studied ? |
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conan |
I also found this: http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.[…]on-td3066924.html |
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conan |
but it seems that project died |
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rangi |
you can study them but there has been changes |
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rangi |
look at the kohastructure.sql file |
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rangi |
in installer/data |
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rangi |
my stop bbiab |
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sekjal |
passing kohastructure.sql through the program SQLFairy would help... but the map is HUGE |
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conan |
rangi: I'be been perusing that one. But I also was wondering if I could find some sort of graphic thingy to show relations and stuff |
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conan |
I always go to the proper sql for the details |
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conan |
I guess what's on wiki should suffice, but I didn't wanted to start looking at them before asking for current versions |
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conan |
(should suffice as introduction) |
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rangi |
adding to it, and fixing it, would be hugely useful |
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conan |
:) |
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conan |
one step at a time |
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conan |
I still need to do a proper presentation on the list |
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rangi |
well, you are bound to notice easy fixes (a new column etc) |
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conan |
but I need to know first what my new boss really wants about koha |
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rangi |
documenting that on the wiki is a start :) |
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conan |
oh! that should be easy, I'll get sure to make notes should I find changes, so then I can write them on wiki |
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rangi |
cool |
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rangi |
also |
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rangi |
can you read perl? |
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conan |
I'm relearning it |
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conan |
haven't touched perl since 1998 |
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rangi |
chhttp://git.koha-community.org/[…]70564d12ad6ae0410 |
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conan |
so I started from zero again |
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cait |
jcamins: around? |
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rangi |
check out the files in there |
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rangi |
or at least the pod |
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jcamins |
cait: I am. |
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cait |
jcamis: did you check if enumchron shows up for serial records? |
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cait |
I think it does or did |
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jcamins |
It doesn't seem to show up at all. |
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cait |
hm |
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jcamins |
This isn't in the table, but in the moredetail.pl items detail page. |
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jcamins |
I wrote a patch and sent it to my coworkers to sign off on. |
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cait |
ah |
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cait |
which screen? |
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cait |
not the edit items table and not the record detail page? |
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cait |
but? |
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wahanui |
but is teh free? |
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jcamins |
wahanui: forget but |
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wahanui |
jcamins: I forgot but |
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jcamins |
cait: view a record, then click on the "Items" tab. |
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jcamins |
It will show you all the items in an expanded format. |
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cait |
ah thx |
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conan |
rangi: I can't find that 'Schema' dir in my local git repo, I just did a pull |
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rangi |
you wont |
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rangi |
wip/koha-catalyst.git |
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conan |
that's another branch? |
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rangi |
git remore add catalyst-wip git://git.koha-community.org/wip/koha-catalyst.git |
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rangi |
another repo |
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rangi |
http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/ |
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conan |
ah! so that's new work |
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conan |
will it be pushed upstream someday? or this is something completely different? |
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rangi |
probably go upstream one day |
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rangi |
maybe for 3.4 if I have time, for 3.6 if i dont |
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rangi |
but for now, i just thought it might be a more readable schema for you |
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conan |
rangi: thanks, I have so much to read, I know I'm asking too many question |
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rangi |
theres no such thing as too many questions |
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rangi |
unless its the same one over and over ;) |
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cait |
the library I visited today asked about a message "x items waiting for pickup" when the borrower returns books |
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cait |
and there are holds waiting for him |
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wizzyrea |
interesting, like something on the screen? |
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rangi |
that wouldnt be hard to do |
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wizzyrea |
or an email? |
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wahanui |
an email is weird, theres about a million reasons why you may not have got it yet |
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wizzyrea |
wahanui: forget email |
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wahanui |
wizzyrea: I forgot email |
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wizzyrea |
email is weird |
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wizzyrea |
email? |
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wahanui |
email is probably weird |
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wizzyrea |
mhm, I agree |
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wizzyrea |
cait: my thought about that, well, at least for our libraries |
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wizzyrea |
is that lots of times return happens and the patron isn't standing there |
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cait |
sorry, on the screen yes |
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wizzyrea |
(they put their books in the bin) |
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cait |
you return a book and get a message on top that there are books waiting for this patron |
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cait |
so you can ask for his library card and check them out |
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wizzyrea |
I see why they would want that |
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cait |
would the message disturb checking in books fromthe bin? |
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cait |
should it be controlled by a syspref? |
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wizzyrea |
I don't think so... would it clutter up the return screen? |
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wizzyrea |
(and would it, probably more importantly, slow down returns?) |
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wizzyrea |
(fetching more data) |
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rangi |
yes, yes and yes |
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cait |
hm |
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rangi |
so a syspref is my vote |
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rangi |
can be on by default |
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rangi |
but there should be the option to turn it off |
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cait |
ok |
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rangi |
for those who find it annoying |
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wizzyrea |
slow returns = bad |
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rangi |
it wouldnt be much slower, you have most of that info already |
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rangi |
it would more be clutter |
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rangi |
but i think a lot of libraries would like it |
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rangi |
and hey, we can allow ppl to turn it off, problem solved |
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cait |
hehe |
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cait |
show waiting items on return? |
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wizzyrea |
yea, I think they would too... I wish that there was a return screen that only did returns/holds for that person charged with emptying the bin |
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wizzyrea |
something superfast |
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wizzyrea |
maybe even batch |
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cait |
scan all barcodes and return at once? probably difficult for printing the holds /transfer slips |
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wizzyrea |
well yea, that's what I always come up against |
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wizzyrea |
we can't even make that work on the circ screen :P |
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wizzyrea |
er haven't yet |
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wizzyrea |
you'd probably have to do something like |
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wizzyrea |
pop out a list of the exceptions |
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wizzyrea |
"you need to do more to these" |
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jcamins |
Mmm. This sourdough is very... errr... sour. :D |
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wizzyrea |
nom |
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wizzyrea |
we made the oatmeal cookies again this weekend, jcamins |
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rangi |
mail to the dev list sent |
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jcamins |
Much better than my last attempt (which wasn't _bad_, but wasn't nearly sour enough). |
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rangi |
read it, learn it, live it |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: mmmm. |
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cait |
rangi? the mail? |
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rangi |
yes |
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jcamins |
cait: sourdough, too. It is not just a food in the Camins household. It's a way of life. ;) |
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cait |
lol |
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cait |
ok |
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* cait |
will not tell that she doesn't like sourdough much |
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cait |
ah |
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* cait |
hides |
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jcamins |
:) |
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rangi |
who has 5 mins free? |
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rangi |
anyone want to fix my typo and post the mail on the website? |
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rangi |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
i got it |
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rangi |
thanks |
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wizzyrea |
does anyone know, and I'm sorry i may have asked this before... the hold queue report: does it or does it not favor the library of the patron who has the hold? |
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* jcamins |
doesn't think it favors the patron's home library, but he might be mistaken. |
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jcamins |
Is it possible to delete a vendor? |
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rangi |
i dont think it does currently |
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rangi |
jcamins: not sure, i think you just make them inactive jcamins |
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cait |
jcamins: no you can't delete them- I wrote a bug report about htat |
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cait |
you can only make them inactive |
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wizzyrea |
rangi: posted |
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wizzyrea |
(complete with typo correction ;)) |
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rangi |
it would be an enhancement, for deletion and it would have to be done very very very very very very very carefully |
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rangi |
because as soon as you delete a vendor |
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rangi |
you lose acquisition history for any item received from them |
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cait |
bug 4969 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4969 minor, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, Vendors can not be deleted / show only active vendors |
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jcamins |
Ahh, good point. |
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rangi |
thats why you cant do it currently |
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rangi |
It strikes me you might want to flag a bookseller as inactive, i.e. retained |
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rangi |
for historic info but flagged as not to use for new orders |
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rangi |
is the last comment, and yes, thats what we do :) |
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rangi |
deleting is very dangerous |
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jcamins |
Doesn't Koha support running reports in a batch? |
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jcamins |
I think I remember reading about that feature, but I can't seem to find it now. |
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rangi |
in a batch? |
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rangi |
not that im aware of |
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sekjal |
there is the cron script, which can take in multiple report numbers to run |
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jcamins |
Ah, maybe that's what I was thinking of. |
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cait |
good night all |
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sekjal |
goodnight, #koha |
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jcamins |
Time for me to call it a day too, I think. |
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jcamins |
Good night, #koha |
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magnuse++ # thanks for the dvd!!!! |
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LBA1 |
can anyone tell me why I am LBA1 today? I'm using Pidgin. |
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jcamins_away |
LBA1: did you identify yourself to nickserv? |
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I guess not...I just joined the chat. I used to automatically get logged into the chat AND get identified by nickserv so not sure what I've changed. |
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