IRC log for #koha, 2011-03-06

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00:00 druthb joined #koha
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00:39 jenkins_koha Starting build 3 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: ABORTED)
00:44 huginn New commit(s) kohagit32: Bug 5831: doesn't respect -r <[…]84056932b66ad7985> / Bug 5820: Change language to 'Fund' over 'Budget' <[…]7ea780f05e6d52214> / bug 5693 - mc-ccode parens fix <[…]h=9f90b14017b1404
01:11 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed!
01:11 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.2.x build #3: FIXED in 32 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]job/Koha_3.2.x/3/
01:11 jenkins_koha * MJ Ray: bug 5813: Remove unnecessary empty file
01:11 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 5642: Item field serial enumeration (enumchron) should be longer
01:11 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5813 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, ersatz file in source tree
01:11 jenkins_koha * Chris Nighswonger: Updating Version Number to
01:11 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Fixing license and copyright statement for
01:11 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5818, Date picker broken on label batches
01:11 jenkins_koha * Ian Walls: Bug 5824: Creating a circ rule for a specific library causes anomalies
01:11 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5642 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---,, ASSIGNED, Item field serial enumeration (enumchron) should be longer
01:11 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Fixing a utf8 issue with the translator tests
01:11 jenkins_koha * Frédérick Capovilla: Bug 3341: Fines calculation erroneous when a repeatable holiday is added
01:11 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 4290 - search for author in repository
01:11 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5818 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, date picker broken on label batches
01:11 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 4853 - Rights needed to renew a document
01:11 jenkins_koha * Nahuel ANGELINETTI: (bug #5157) fix borrowers top issues
01:11 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5824 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED, Creating a circ rule for a library other than default causes set library anomalies
01:11 jenkins_koha * Reed Wade: bug 5693 - mc-ccode parens fix
01:11 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 5820: Change language to 'Fund' over 'Budget'
01:12 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3341 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, fines calculation erroneous when a repeatable holiday is added.
01:12 jenkins_koha * Ian Walls: Bug 5831: doesn't respect -r
01:12 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4290 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, search for author in repository
01:12 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4853 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, ASSIGNED, Rights needed to renew a document
01:12 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5157 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, henridamien, ASSIGNED, borrowers top issuers filters problems
01:12 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5693 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, reed, ASSIGNED, if parentheses used in ccode then searches against ccode fail
01:12 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5820 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED, funds/budget language inconsistency when ordering
01:12 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5831 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, does not respect -r flag
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03:10 MickeyC identify
03:10 druthb two Mickeys?
03:10 MickeyC oops
03:10 MickeyC it's me
03:10 MickeyC is now known as Guest3693
03:10 Guest3693 i had to leave and log in elsewhere
03:11 Guest3693 forgot i stayed logged in at home
03:11 wizzyrea oops
03:12 Guest3693 the sound board in production at the studio is borked
03:12 wizzyrea o no
03:12 Guest3693 i am killing time wiating for the engineer to come
03:12 wizzyrea want me to kick your other user so you can identify?
03:12 Guest3693 nah
03:12 Guest3693 i'm not gonna stay long
03:12 Guest3693 engineer will come shortly
03:12 wizzyrea k
03:12 Guest3693 thjanks tho
03:16 Guest3693 back later
03:16 wizzyrea bye
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03:35 druthb wizzyrea++
03:35 druthb @karma wizzyrea
03:35 huginn druthb: Karma for "wizzyrea" has been increased 139 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 139.
04:29 wizzyrea ptfs, help
05:00 * druthb puts on her workin' boots.
05:01 * wizzyrea nods
05:57 druthb is now known as druthb_afk
06:10 rangi @quote random
06:10 huginn rangi: Quote #18: "<pianohacker> nitpicking synergy FTW" (added by gmcharlt at 05:35 PM, July 24, 2009)
06:10 rangi @quote random
06:10 huginn rangi: Quote #18: "<pianohacker> nitpicking synergy FTW" (added by gmcharlt at 05:35 PM, July 24, 2009)
06:10 rangi @quote random
06:10 huginn rangi: Quote #18: "<pianohacker> nitpicking synergy FTW" (added by gmcharlt at 05:35 PM, July 24, 2009)
06:10 rangi random fail
06:10 rangi @quote random
06:11 huginn rangi: Quote #80: "<robin> heh thanks, that makes me seem a lot more edumacated :)" (added by gmcharlt at 01:54 AM, June 24, 2010)
06:13 wizzyrea @quote random
06:13 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #99: "slef: #kohaaaaargh for PTFS blog posts?" (added by wizzyrea at 07:10 PM, October 11, 2010)
06:13 wizzyrea now that's apt
06:14 rangi heh
06:26 druthb_afk is now known as druthb
06:27 druthb @quote random
06:27 huginn druthb: Quote #17: "<wizzyrea> holy flaming bacon batman!" (added by jdavidb at 09:40 PM, July 17, 2009)
06:27 druthb lol
06:27 druthb comfort_food++
06:27 wizzyrea bacon++ in general
06:29 rangi excuse
06:29 rangi wahanui1: excuse
06:29 wahanui1 rangi: === The BOFH-style Excuse Server --- Feel The Power!
06:29 wahanui1 === By Jeff Ballard <>
06:29 wahanui1 === See for more info.
06:29 wahanui1 Your excuse is: divide-by-zero error
06:29 wahanui1 rangi: quantum decoherence
06:30 wizzyrea mhm I buy that
06:30 druthb wahanui1: excuse
06:30 wahanui1 druthb: Stray Alpha Particles from memory packaging caused Hard Memory Error on Server.
06:31 wizzyrea sure, I buy that too.
06:32 druthb hmpf.  'member what I said in Skype about sunspots.
06:32 wizzyrea :)
06:37 rangi @wunder wellington nz
06:37 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0�C (7:00 PM NZDT on March 06, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising).
06:37 wizzyrea chillyish
06:37 rangi stupid southerly
06:37 wizzyrea better than here >.>
06:37 wizzyrea @wunder lawrence, ks
06:37 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is -2.6�C (12:42 AM CST on March 06, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Windchill: -3.0�C. Pressure: 30.35 in 1027.7 hPa (Steady).
06:40 druthb @wunder 20852
06:40 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Flower Valley, Rockville, Maryland is 13.2�C (1:43 AM EST on March 06, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008.0 hPa (Steady).
06:40 druthb It's starting to drizzle a little here.
06:44 JuditCalyx joined #koha
06:44 JuditCalyx hello
06:45 JuditCalyx anyone out there?
06:45 rangi yep
06:46 JuditCalyx i am just trying to install koha 3.2.5
06:46 JuditCalyx and i am stucked
06:46 JuditCalyx is it the right place to ask questions?
06:46 rangi yep
06:47 JuditCalyx so
06:47 JuditCalyx libnet-z3950-zoom-perl : Depends: libyaz4 (>= 4.1.0) but it is not going to be installed
06:47 JuditCalyx libyaz3 : Depends: libicu38 (>= 3.8-5) but it is not installable
06:47 JuditCalyx yaz : Depends: libyaz4 (>= 4.1.0) but it is not going to be installed
06:47 JuditCalyx E: Broken packages
06:47 wahanui1 i already had it that way, JuditCalyx.
06:47 JuditCalyx i think i have a very new debian
06:48 JuditCalyx that is the problem
06:48 JuditCalyx maybe:)
06:48 rangi you think or you know? :) is it squeeze?
06:48 JuditCalyx yes
06:48 JuditCalyx and i have libicu 44 not libicu38
06:48 rangi then it should work fine, ive installed it on squeeze plent of times
06:48 rangi just do not use the indexdata repositories
06:49 JuditCalyx ah
06:49 JuditCalyx i will try thanks
06:49 rangi another option is to use the packages
06:49 rangi
06:52 JuditCalyx shall i still use sudo install_misc/
06:53 rangi if you arent using the koha debian packages then yes
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07:06 JuditCalyx ojay, thanks
07:06 JuditCalyx i am good
07:06 * druthb waves to cait.
07:06 cait hi JuditCalyx
07:07 * cait waves to druthb :)
07:07 rangi hi cait
07:07 JuditCalyx hi
07:07 cait hi rangi
07:08 cait lots of people here for a weekend :)
07:09 wizzyrea migration1
07:09 wizzyrea !
07:09 wizzyrea adventure!
07:09 JuditCalyx 1st try ever :)
07:10 cait me sends wizzyrea cookies
07:11 * druthb is adventuring with some of her favorite people close at hand.
07:12 * cait volunteers to support you with cookies :)
07:14 wizzyrea thx cait :)
07:16 druthb thanx, cait.  I'm feeling pretty fierce right one problem licked, and the next one almost ready to smoke-test.
07:16 brendan_ evening
07:16 wizzyrea hey brendan_
07:18 * druthb points at brendan_ and yells "BEST BOSS EVAR!"
07:18 brendan_ heh - how about - decent daddy right now
07:19 druthb :)
07:19 cait :)
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07:20 brendan_ well read some books and we're almost done with the nighttime feeding...  While watching druthb and NEKLS! work their magic
07:21 wizzyrea we do our best >.>
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07:22 brendan_ wizzyrea++
07:22 brendan_ just cause you blow me away in karma ;)
07:22 brendan_ if anyone wants to send some karma - let's go for Elizabeth
07:22 brendan_ Elizabeth++
07:23 druthb Elizabeth++
07:23 cait Elizabeth++
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07:23 brendan_ whoops I hit the wrong button
07:23 brendan_ anyways Elizabeth++
07:24 wizzyrea Elizabeth++
07:24 * brendan_ goes to poke the baby to let her know there's good karma in #koha for her
07:25 brendan_ so the employees of ByWater got Elizabeth a little onesie for her --   it says "Future Koha developer" with the Koha being the logo
07:25 brendan_ totally cool :)
07:25 rangi :)
07:27 wizzyrea :D
07:28 wizzyrea my kid came home in a onesie that had a C program on it
07:28 wizzyrea for Hello World
07:28 brendan_ heh nice
07:28 brendan_ they also gave me one that said - "Linux Ready"  and of course with a cute penguin on it
07:28 wizzyrea aw linux penguins! on babies! the cute.... I can't bear it
07:29 brendan_ yeah ridiculous
07:39 brendan_ alright back to cuddle time with wee one...
07:42 rangi spotya later
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07:47 cait ?
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07:47 * druthb raises an eyebrow, and wonders if the wierdness has spread to Germany.
07:48 cait there are lot of weird thing here, but doubling caits is new to me
07:48 druthb twice the fun!  :D
07:51 * cait thinks some people would disagree
07:53 wizzyrea pff unlikely
07:56 cait hmpf.
07:56 * cait distracts everybody with more cookies
07:57 wizzyrea see you provide cookies
07:57 wizzyrea 2x you, 2x more cookies
07:57 wizzyrea simple math :P
07:57 cait lol
07:59 druthb delicious math!
08:02 * cait hopes to never run out of cookies
08:03 mtj rangi: about?
08:03 rangi yep
08:03 rangi sup?
08:03 mtj heya cait :)
08:03 mtj hay, what ChanOps service do we use on #koha ?
08:04 cait hi mtj :)
08:04 mtj ah.. its oftc's service, yeah?
08:04 rangi yep
08:05 mtj any preference yourself , or at catalyst?
08:05 mtj ratbox and something?
08:06 mtj
08:07 mtj looks like the choices are Anope, Atheme, Ratbox Services
08:08 wizzyrea irc.katipo used ratbox
08:08 wizzyrea i'm pretty sure
08:08 mtj yep, i think so too
08:08 mtj which its why its my 1st choice ;)
08:10 rangi yeah ratbox services
08:11 rangi anythign that gives you chanservices will probably be fine
08:15 mtj ok, im gonna try that 1st
08:15 rangi you might want to compile it from source (ratbox)
08:15 rangi or you'll hit the 8 char nick limit
08:15 mtj done...
08:16 mtj the ratbox* configs are hairy
08:18 mtj my prblem seems to be i havent got a working ratbox-services  conf file yet
08:18 mtj and i cant yet find a good example..
08:19 mtj ok, got one… :/
08:19 mtj :)
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08:25 wizzyrea druthb++
08:25 druthb @karma druthb
08:25 huginn druthb: Karma for "druthb" has been increased 66 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 66.
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14:08 wizzyrea druthb++
14:12 nengard wizzyrea++
14:12 nengard and
14:12 nengard druthb++
14:12 nengard you two are rockstars
14:12 wizzyrea we'll know soon for sure
14:14 nengard hopefully you can get a nap in today to recover
14:15 wizzyrea :) hopefully
14:15 nengard on another note can i just say waiting for zebra to rebuild is so damn boring!!!
14:15 nengard why must it take so long???
14:17 wizzyrea oy he hazards of success
14:20 wizzyrea its reallymostly ruth, i was just there for moral support
14:22 nengard i don't know many of our partners who stayed up all night with her which she did a migration
14:27 cait wizzyrea++
14:31 wizzyrea nengard do you have any admins awake?
14:31 wizzyrea at bw?
14:32 wizzyrea bg?
14:32 wahanui1 well, bg is awesome!
14:33 wizzyrea ^^
14:34 wizzyrea brendan_: awake?
14:39 nengard sorry, was making breakfast
14:39 nengard ian's up
14:39 nengard what do you need?
14:39 wizzyrea ah our server isnt answering on https
14:55 wizzyrea listen port 443 an a lil apache config maybe?
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19:25 rangi morning
19:25 druthb hi, rangi. :)
19:39 cait hi rangi :)
19:39 cait druthb++ #help with bash scripting
19:39 druthb :)
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19:49 druthb rangi++ #for pouring some high-octane into NEKLS Apache config
19:52 wizzyrea yes, rangi++
19:55 wizzyrea gmcharlt++ chris_n++ and rangi++ for really good work on releases
19:55 wizzyrea koha_rm++
20:06 cait koha_rm++
20:10 druthb is now known as druthb_napping
20:13 LastBoyScout joined #koha
20:14 LastBoyScout hi all
20:14 cait hi
20:15 LastBoyScout anybody in the mood to help? I'm struggling!
20:15 * wizzyrea throws LastBoyScout a rope
20:16 LastBoyScout got a problem with importing SOME new biblios from a Z39.50 search
20:16 LastBoyScout was all working, but somewhere in an upgrade, something has gone wrong
20:17 LastBoyScout Getting "All arguments must be MARC::Field objects at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-​bin/cataloguing/ line 151 "
20:17 LastBoyScout lots of these on the net but no solutions
20:17 LastBoyScout I'm running Koha 3.2.5 on Debian Lenny
20:18 LastBoyScout I believe this may be due to manually installing a perl module from CPAN, but not sure
20:18 LastBoyScout If so, not sure which one
20:18 LastBoyScout I've tried debugging the issue by comparing records Koha allows me to import vs those it does not
20:19 wizzyrea diacritics?
20:19 LastBoyScout Found that the LOC had added field 994 to the default framework so added this as it was in the record that would not import, but that did not help
20:20 LastBoyScout diacrtitics? ie funny characters?
20:20 wizzyrea right
20:20 wizzyrea do the records have funny characters?
20:20 LastBoyScout not sure. Looked for them in the z39.50 MARC view but did not see any
20:22 wizzyrea hrm
20:23 LastBoyScout it also seems to be happening too often for a funny character here and there
20:25 LastBoyScout is it possible to paste an offending MARC record (as text) in here?
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20:25 rangi use the pastebot
20:25 rangi
20:26 pastebot "LastBoyScout" at pasted "MARC record that won't import" (52 lines) at
20:27 LastBoyScout Brilliant! Pasted one of the records that won't import
20:27 LastBoyScout Don't see any funnies.
20:28 rangi yeah that looks ok to me
20:28 rangi is there any more info in the apache error logs?
20:29 LastBoyScout no nothing. Just the same error as above
20:29 LastBoyScout is it possible to turn on a higher level of debugging?
20:30 rangi i dont think it will give you any more information im afraid, thats MARC::Field complaining which is a perl module Koha uses
20:30 LastBoyScout I understand that the MARC::Record module stores errors accessible through the record->warnings() method. Could I access this?
20:31 rangi you could try, you would have to hack at code, its throwing this error when you click import eh?
20:31 LastBoyScout yip
20:32 rangi can you try something for me, go to admin adn your z3950 server set up
20:32 rangi find the LOC entry
20:32 LastBoyScout I tried seeing if it was possible to add a line to the module to print the results from the warning method, but my PERL is probably not good enough
20:32 LastBoyScout ok
20:32 rangi and if its set to utf8 switch to marc8, and vice versa
20:32 LastBoyScout done
20:32 rangi then try the search and import again
20:35 LastBoyScout apologies, any idea of the option I should search for?
20:35 LastBoyScout oh
20:35 LastBoyScout sorry
20:36 LastBoyScout saw you were talking about the LOC server set up
20:36 LastBoyScout I tired that
20:36 rangi switching the character encoding? k
20:36 LastBoyScout deleted server and recreated it evem
20:36 rangi and you tried different character encodings?
20:40 LastBoyScout i did
20:40 rangi im out of ideas then im afraid
20:40 LastBoyScout although I'm still suspicious - that solution would make complete sense for my problem
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20:42 wizzyrea hey jo :)
20:42 wizzyrea guess what
20:42 jransom heya
20:42 jransom what?
20:42 wizzyrea we run koha now ;)
20:42 jransom woo hoo !
20:42 jransom Thats amazing
20:42 jransom well done you :)
20:42 wizzyrea not just me
20:42 jransom the whole nekls
20:42 wizzyrea rangi and druthb and oh so many others helped
20:42 jransom gota  love the koha community
20:43 LastBoyScout thanks rangi
20:43 rangi no problem, wish i could be more help, if you cant solve it
20:43 rangi do post a bug at
20:44 LastBoyScout thanks. Seems to be a problem that has recurred over the years (judging from google) but no one has posted a solution
20:45 rangi usually its caused by a z3950 server handing back a record encoding in a format koha is not expecting
20:45 rangi but not always
20:45 LastBoyScout i'm suspecting a CPAN module conflict. so will try uninstalling CPAN modules and reinstalling bit by bit
21:01 LastBoyScout ok. off to bed. will attack anew tomorrow
21:01 LastBoyScout thanks for the help
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21:09 eythian cait: I'm not normally here at 3am :)
21:09 cait ok, but you moved!
21:09 cait this confused me for a moment :)
21:11 eythian I guess the internet here bounced while I was at home.
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21:19 druthb_napping is now known as druthb
21:32 cait which status for a bug status "patch pushed" that is not working?
21:32 cait still failed qa?
21:32 wahanui1 failed qa is a new status in the pull down - we don't have one for does not apply yet :)
21:32 cait forget failed qa
21:32 wahanui1 cait: I forgot failed qa
21:33 cait looking at bug 3495
21:33 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3495 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jwagner, ASSIGNED, Fast bib record add at circulation
21:59 rangi wahanui1: excuse
21:59 wahanui1 rangi: Cosmic ray particles crashed through the hard disk platter
21:59 wizzyrea mhm
21:59 wizzyrea I buy it.
22:01 rangi :)
22:01 eythian RAM chip would be more realistic, that actually does happen.
22:01 wizzyrea ^^ did I tell you the story, eythian ... actually probaby not
22:02 wizzyrea so yesterday there was a big basketball game between the uni in my town (KU) and their archrivals (MU) for the conference championship
22:02 wizzyrea the local tv station lost their signal for the last 3 minutes of the game (OMG... THE HORROR)
22:02 wizzyrea and blamed it on.
22:02 wizzyrea sunspots.
22:02 * wizzyrea is not really that big of a sports fan, but did find this very amusing
22:03 space_librarian well, points for creativity
22:03 rangi[…]9&oldid=416934042
22:03 wizzyrea LOL
22:04 cait wahanui: excuse
22:04 wahanui1 cait: the real ttys became pseudo ttys and vice-versa.
22:05 eythian wizzyrea: hehe
22:05 eythian people must have been raging
22:05 wizzyrea as I understand it, fans across town were shouting obscenities at their televisions
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22:49 druthb cait++
22:49 cait huh?
22:49 druthb do I need a *reason*?
22:49 cait lol
22:50 cait druthb++
22:50 cait hah!
22:52 wizzyrea cait++ for that most recent patch
22:53 wizzyrea we were just talking about that today
22:53 cait hehe, I saw the note on your screenshots :)
22:53 cait and as I was the one working on that.. felt kind of responsible for fixing it...
22:54 wizzyrea well thank you very much :D
22:55 wizzyrea I'll try to sign off on that tomorrow
22:59 cait :)
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