IRC log for #koha, 2010-11-21

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00:45 cait is there a place where we collect unused template files?
00:45 cait for possible deletion?
00:59 cait *sighs*
01:01 cait oh my
01:07 jcamins Lots of unused templates?
01:07 jcamins You oculd file a bug report.
01:07 jcamins Like the one for database agnosticism.
01:11 cait no
01:12 cait deleted borrowers don't end up in deletedborrowers... because the structure of both tables is different
01:12 cait since june
01:12 chris_n ouch
01:12 chris_n that's bad
01:12 cait privacy is missing
01:12 cait I tested deleting borrowers with my new fields - and it didn't work
01:12 cait I compared both tables
01:13 cait also: cardnumber - varchar(16) vs. varchar(9)
01:13 jcamins Oh dear.
01:13 jcamins That's very bad.
01:13 cait correct me if I am wrong
01:13 cait perhaps someone else can look at his installation
01:14 cait chris_n: what's the right procedure for database update? change databasenumber in kohaversion and update to XXX?
01:15 chris_n I think just set the version number to XXX in
01:16 chris_n chris will fixup and fix the XXX when he does the push
01:17 cait ok
01:17 cait do you have time to look at my work for the new fields?
01:18 cait I am nto sure the addresses look right - or be presented differently
01:18 cait should be presented
01:18 cait displayed... whatever
01:21 cait anyway, will push it to my public repo later
01:22 cait chris_n: I am going to mark the deletedborrowers bug as blocker - you loose data
01:22 chris_n yup, I would
01:22 chris_n cait: I'll take a look at your work on monday
01:23 cait ok :)
01:23 chris_n drop me an email to remind me if you don't mind
01:23 cait I will add a link to the repo to the bug
01:23 chris_n ahh
01:23 chris_n ok
01:23 chris_n put me on the cc list for the bug then
01:23 cait ok
01:25 cait and thank you :)
01:37 chris_n g'night all
01:39 cait good night chris_n
01:54 gmcharlt chris_n++
02:03 cait hi gmcharlt
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02:14 * cait waves to liz
02:14 wizzyrea_ hey cait
02:14 wizzyrea_ chris_n:
02:14 wizzyrea_ chris_n++
02:14 wizzyrea_ was what i meant
02:14 cait @karma chris_N
02:14 munin cait: Karma for "chris_N" has been increased 136 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 136.
02:15 cait ok, munin is not case-sensitive :)
02:22 wizzyrea_ i have this weird desire to play beatles rock band
02:23 jcamins wizzyrea_: go for it.
02:23 wizzyrea_ but I don't have anyone else to play with
02:26 cait I would play with you
02:26 * wizzyrea_ ponders a way to do rock band over the internet
02:26 * cait is a big fan of singstar
02:26 wizzyrea_ :)
02:26 cait have never tried rock band, but I am sure it's fun :)
02:27 * jcamins has never tried either
02:27 wizzyrea_ it's much like singstar I think. but with guitar
02:27 cait can I sing while playing the guitar?
02:27 wizzyrea_ you can try
02:27 wizzyrea_ it's pretty tough tho
02:27 wizzyrea_ imo
02:27 wizzyrea_ like walking and chewing gum
02:28 cait hehe
02:28 jcamins wizzyrea_: it's hard to walk while chewing gum?
02:28 wizzyrea_ depends on if you're an uncoordinated schlub like me
02:28 cait gna, can't send my patch because mail provider does maintenance?
02:29 jcamins wizzyrea_: I'm sure you're not an uncoordinated schlub. :)
02:29 cait unfair
02:29 wizzyrea_ urg
02:29 wizzyrea_[…]k/~3/YELVK9LGupI/
02:29 wizzyrea_ heh
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02:36 * cait1 should stop looking at koha code
02:36 jcamins Yes, you should.
02:36 jcamins And go to sleep.
02:36 jcamins I'm going to do that soon, I think.
02:37 cait1 items and deleteditems have a different number of columns
02:38 cait1 hm, perhaps this is ok
02:45 cait1 yep it works
02:45 cait1 time to sleep :)
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04:02 prawesh hi
04:04 prawesh had installed koha and i am facing few problems regarding fine
04:04 prawesh do koha calculate fine automatically??
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04:23 prawesh can anyone help me??
04:28 wizzyrea_ you probably need to set up your fines cronjob. You can find it in misc/cronjobs/
04:28 wizzyrea_ there's also a sample crontab in there.
04:30 prawesh @wizzyrea_ thank you
04:30 munin prawesh: Error: "wizzyrea_" is not a valid command.
04:31 wizzyrea_ you're very welcome :)
04:32 prawesh @wizzyrea can i ask u other stuff too??
04:32 munin prawesh: Error: "wizzyrea" is not a valid command.
04:32 wizzyrea_ you can ask, sure. The smart kids are gone for the weekend but I'll try to answer.
04:33 prawesh :0
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04:37 prawesh If the fine rules are set in different libraries - one in default and another in cutom - do the rules in custom library overrides the ones in default?
04:38 wizzyrea_ yep. have you looked at all at the online manual?
04:38 wizzyrea_ (just curious)
04:39 wizzyrea_ you're on 3.0 so the very first manual listed here is probably the one:
04:40 prawesh hmm...
04:40 prawesh might have forgot that...
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05:11 kmkale good morning all
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05:28 kmkale_ @weather mumbai
05:28 munin kmkale_: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 27.0�C (10:10 AM IST on November 21, 2010). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 25.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady).
05:28 Brooke how was your Diwali?
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05:33 kmkale hey Brooke IT WAS EXCELLENT
05:33 Brooke :D
05:33 kmkale lots of shopping, crackers and sweets
05:33 Brooke elephants?
05:33 kmkale huh?
05:34 Brooke any elephants or are you too far into the big city for such things?
05:35 kmkale aahh. I live on outskirts of Mumbai. The financial capital of India. We see one sometimes but then its usually being used by someone to beg money.
05:35 Brooke *nod*
05:35 Brooke didn't know if you traveled out or no. Guess it's no!
05:36 kmkale one day I paid a mahaut for a 5km ride on a elephant for my son. he was thrilled!!
05:36 Brooke hehehe
05:36 Brooke how old is your son?
05:36 kmkale 10
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05:40 kmkale when does the Christmas start?
05:41 Brooke uhm, to the best of my heathen knowledge, it's mostly one day in America on 25 Dec.
05:41 Brooke there's Christmas Eve stuff.
05:41 Brooke there used to be saint's days associated.
05:42 kmkale actually i meant the season. shopping and fun ;)
05:42 Brooke ooof
05:42 Brooke that nonsense starts this Fridau
05:42 Brooke y
05:42 Brooke even
05:42 kmkale :)
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06:58 chris well that was tiring
07:07 kmkale vettori's bowling well chris
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10:30 prawesh do anyone know how to change default framework to new framework instead of default framework??
10:30 prawesh or hide the default framework???
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12:23 cait hi #koha
12:56 cait !hudson botsnack lebkuchen
12:56 hudsonbot cait: great! yum yum. I could eat lebkuchen all day long
15:08 jcamins_a lebkuchen...
15:08 cait hehe
15:08 jcamins_a is now known as jcamins
15:08 jcamins Oh, it requires chilling overnight. :(
15:08 cait hi jcamins :)
15:08 jcamins Good morning.
15:08 cait lebkuchen?
15:09 jcamins That's what the recipe says.
15:10 cait the dough?
15:10 jcamins Right.
15:10 cait I never let it chill overnight, but they get hard after baking, so best to let them rest some time to get soft again
15:10 jcamins Hm.
15:11 cait I think there are a lot of different recipes
15:13 jcamins Maybe I'll make beghrir for breakfast.[…]eghrir_Recipe.htm
15:15 cait loooks yummy :)
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16:03 cait hi hdl
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16:26 cait hi magnus :)
16:26 magnus hiya cait
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16:37 jcamins Hello magnus.
16:38 magnus hiya jcamins!
16:44 jcamins How are things across the pond?
16:47 magnus cold and dark... ;-)
16:51 cait @wunder bodo, norway
16:51 munin cait: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 0.0�C (5:20 PM CET on November 21, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: -4.0�C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Steady).
16:51 cait @wunder Konstanz
16:51 munin cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 3.6�C (5:50 PM CET on November 21, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 4.0�C. Pressure: 29.67 in 1004.6 hPa (Steady).
16:52 jcamins In a few minutes I can cook the msemmen! :D
16:53 jcamins[…]-flaky-bread.html
17:01 cait msemmen?
17:02 cait noodle water on stove...
17:02 cait hmpf!
17:05 magnus Pork ribs in the oven here - traditional xmas fare for a lot of people in norway...
17:06 cait oh
17:07 cait noodles with cheese...
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17:22 jcamins magnus: aren't you a little bit early for xmas?
17:27 magnus jcamins: yeah, but i use something else for xmas dinner: then again, we already had that once this fall too ;-)
17:34 jcamins Interesting.
17:35 magnus why have it only once a year when it's that good? ;-)
17:43 magnus dinnertime!
17:43 cait magnus++
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18:57 chris Morning
18:58 cait ata marie chris :)
19:00 chris :)
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19:30 richard hi
19:31 chris hi richard
19:32 richard heya chris
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20:36 chris
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20:37 chris definitely watch this one ... and show it to all your clients :)
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21:24 brendan_l @wunder ukaih, ca
21:24 munin brendan_l: Error: No such location could be found.
21:24 brendan_l @wunder ukiah, ca
21:24 munin brendan_l: The current temperature in westside ukiah, Ukiah, California is 8.1�C (1:26 PM PST on November 21, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.03 in 983.0 hPa (Rising). Winter Weather Advisory in effect from 4 PM this afternoon to 3 am PST Monday above 2000 feet...
21:24 chris chilly
21:25 brendan_l yeah I see snow up on the top of the mountains
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22:19 chris heya daniel :)
22:20 cait hi daniel
22:21 cait chris: it works!
22:21 chris it works?
22:21 * chris has forgotten what it is
22:21 cait tss :)
22:21 cait controlnumber in search title in links
22:21 chris yay!
22:22 cait the field is the same for unimarc and marc21
22:22 chris cool
22:24 cait not sure if it still makes sense to create a new routine?
22:24 daniel hi chris
22:24 daniel hi cait
22:24 chris well depends if its the same in normarc
22:24 chris might be worth asking magnus
22:24 cait yup ok
22:25 daniel @chris: how was the birthday bash?
22:25 munin daniel: Error: "chris:" is not a valid command.
22:25 daniel whoops
22:26 chris tiring, but fun
22:26 cait :)
22:26 cait daniel: without the @ :)
22:27 daniel cait: thanks, got it, i've been away for a few days and forgot
22:27 cait !hudson botsnack cookie
22:27 hudsonbot cait: yummy! I just love cookie!
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22:37 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha -  Koha 3.2.1 is Now Available - Next general meeting on 8 December 2010 at 10:00 UTC+0.  This channel is logged.
22:39 brendan_l wb logbot
22:43 chris we missed our chance to go crazy with no logging
22:43 chris brendan_l:
22:44 chris one to watch, and to make all your clients watch ;)
22:44 brendan_l ah that should take awhile to load here - but thanks
22:52 cait good night all :)
22:52 chris night cait
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23:08 brendan_l @seen nate
23:08 munin brendan_l: nate was last seen in #koha 6 days, 3 hours, 50 minutes, and 59 seconds ago: <Nate> Ok everyone ill talk to yas in a week!
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