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kwak |
hello all |
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kwak |
i intalled koha in lucid following the instructions in the wiki. |
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kwakito |
whenever I do a search, i get no result |
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robin |
kwakito: your zebra probably isn't working. |
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kwakito |
ic, whta should I do? |
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robin |
have you tried running rebuild_zebra.pl? |
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kwakito |
i'm going to run it now. |
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kwakito |
it's good that I'm testing on a VM. |
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robin |
yeah, VMs are useful. I have bunches of them for various things. |
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kwakito |
run rebuild_zebra.pl right? |
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kwakito |
by the way, when I do a search i get this "kw,wrdl: education" |
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robin |
yeah, that's normal |
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robin |
and rebuild_zebra.pl is what you want, probably with the options -a -b -r -v |
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i get this error when running rebuild zebra |
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hello |
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heya chris |
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wasabi |
morning amit |
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Amit |
heya mason |
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heya amit |
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Amit |
heya brendan |
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wajasu |
i upgraded and installed from git on monday. my search seems to error with "Can't determine type of REF(0x4cb1e88) at blib/lib/Storable.pm (autosplit into blib/lib/auto/Storable/_freeze.al) line 339, at /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-search.pl line 500" |
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any ideas? i see a search run from zebrasrv output. its just after when the results are shown. |
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kwak |
why do I get YAML error during cpan install |
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kwak |
Warning (usually harmless): 'YAML' not installed, will not store persistent state |
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Braedon |
...well that was interesting... |
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wajasu |
made my night. |
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Braedon |
i'm sure |
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things working now. maybe the storable that was in a cookie is somehow fine? Oh well. I can't reproduce. |
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kwak |
cpan complains about YAML. |
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kwak |
just a warning...is this fine to skip. or cpan YAML? |
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Braedon |
fine to skip |
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Braedon |
purely cpan - nothing to do with Koah |
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Braedon |
not very talkative that one |
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wajasu |
ok. i'm up and running with the latest git pull. |
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wajasu |
gnight |
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magnus |
g'day #koha |
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Braedon_m |
Howdy |
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kf |
good morning #koha |
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hdl |
hi kf |
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kf |
hi hdl |
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magnus |
hiya kf, hdl, Braedon_m et aø |
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kf |
good morning magnus |
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hdl |
hi magnus |
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magnus |
s/aø/al/ |
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Amit |
heya hdl, kf, magnus |
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hi Amit |
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hi Amit |
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kwak |
is it possible to run the first time configuration again. |
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magnus |
cd ../.. |
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magnus |
oops, sorry |
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hi again, it is possible to run the first run page where I can install sample items. |
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kf |
hmpf. |
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Braedon |
hmpf? |
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kf |
Braedon: similar to harumph |
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Braedon |
indeed |
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Braedon |
more inquiring as to the reason :P |
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kf |
Braedon: express a feeling associated with negative karma for soemthing or someone |
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kf |
firefox print menu broken |
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Braedon |
ahh |
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kf |
took me an hour until I could print again |
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Braedon |
beta? |
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kf |
no |
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kf |
the current version |
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kf |
perhaps a problem with an addon or printer installing and deinstalling. |
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kf |
uninstalling... |
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kf |
it's deinstallieren in German :) |
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ivanc |
hi #koha |
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kf |
hi ivanc |
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* kf |
waves |
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ivanc |
hi kf |
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* chris_n |
greets kf && ivanc |
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ivanc |
hallo cris_n |
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kf |
hi chris_n :) |
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nengard |
morning all |
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owen |
Hi nengard, #koha |
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nengard |
wizzyrea those links you send me to the spanish manual give me a 404 |
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nengard |
owen did you get my message yesterday about that patch? |
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owen |
Yes, and I am perplexed. But I didn't have a chance to look at it again yet. |
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nengard |
k |
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chris_n |
heya owen, nengard |
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owen |
chris_n: Are you up for a question about date formatting in Perl? |
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owen |
Hi jwagner |
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kf |
hi jwagner |
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jwagner |
Hi, all. |
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chris_n |
owen: I can give it a shot |
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chris_n |
hey jwagner |
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owen |
I'm trying to add a date to a page which outputs RSS |
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owen |
The standard requires an RFC-822 date-time |
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owen |
I see another instance where Koha uses strftime() to format a time that way, but what I have to work with is an ISO datetime |
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looks at something |
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owen |
template->param(timestamp => strftime("%Y-%m-%dT%H:%M:%S-00:00", gmtime)) |
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chris_n |
owen: have you looked at C4::Dates ? |
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owen |
I did, but it's mostly over my head |
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chris_n |
it does not look to produce rfc822 formats, but could be made to fairly easily I think |
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chris_n |
or perhaps something like this: http://snippets.dzone.com/posts/show/622 |
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chris_n |
but it would be nice to add that format to C4::Dates and make it available to all of Koha |
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chris_n |
with C4::Dates you just create a new date object handing it your current value and format |
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chris_n |
then you call the output method with the format you want it to be converted to |
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chris_n |
and there you go |
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hdl |
I like it |
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hdl |
chris_n++ atz++ |
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chris_n |
hey hdl |
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chris_n |
owen: I'll take a whack at adding rfc822 to C4:Dates during my lunch today |
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owen |
Thanks chris_n, I shall be in your debt |
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chris_n |
kf: about? |
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kf |
here |
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kf |
chris_n: yes |
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chris_n |
I just finished updating to the latest HEAD |
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chris_n |
I do see changes to cgi-bin/koha/members/notices.pl?borrowernumber=X |
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chris_n |
however, it now only shows notices with a failed status |
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chris_n |
and they are filtered properly |
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chris_n |
but it seems to me that it should show all notices for borrower X rather than only the failed ones |
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schuster |
Must say chris_n is a wizard and love the quick label print option. |
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schuster |
Now if I could get a button at the bottom of the add and edit item screen that said Add/Save/Print spine label |
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* chris_n |
appreciates the commendation, but did not write the quick label print code... only a lot of the label creator code :-) |
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schuster |
hmmm... well then I have no idea where it came from or who I should thank - but it is a GREAT feature! |
| 13:02 |
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chris_n |
kyle hall was the originator of that feature according to git |
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chris_n |
I'd like to add some sort of similar browser-based output to the full label tool |
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chris_n |
then formatting could be done with css and perhaps the unicode issues overcome with other languages |
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chris_n |
kf: can you direct me again to the patch you wanted me to test? |
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kf |
reading back mom |
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kf |
chris_n: I agree, it should show all notices not only failed - people will tell you the did not get one, it's good to see it was sent out |
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chris_n |
k, I'll work on a fix for that |
| 13:07 |
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kf |
chris_n: bug 49904 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=49904 was not found. |
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kf |
bug 4904 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4904 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Problem with printing fines in overdue notices |
| 13:07 |
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chris_n |
the table has a sorter, so if one wanted, one could sort on the status field |
| 13:07 |
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kf |
yep |
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chris_n |
ok, I'll try to get to testing your patch today or tomorrow |
| 13:07 |
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kf |
we discussed this page and there were different opinions |
| 13:08 |
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kf |
I would like the message text to be a link, so you could show it formatted in a separate window |
| 13:08 |
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kf |
hard to read the way it is now |
| 13:08 |
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kf |
chris_n: thx! :) |
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owen |
kf has returned from a distopian future with news of Bug 49904 ! |
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* owen |
hopes our monkey/robot/alien overlords are merciful |
| 13:10 |
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kf |
lol |
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chris_n |
kf: ahh... that was my mistake you are fixing :-) |
| 13:10 |
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kf |
I am testing/documenting batch item modification |
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kf |
can someone tell me what the back button on the last page does? |
| 13:10 |
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chris_n |
I was having a hard time understanding how to properly format for utf-8 |
| 13:11 |
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kf |
scan barcodes, make change, save, see screen with back button that does not undo changes or make it possible to make more changes |
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chris_n |
kf: I'll test it and sign off on it |
| 13:11 |
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kf |
chris_n: great! :) |
| 13:11 |
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kf |
my coworker suggested the change - he does a lot of data migration things |
| 13:17 |
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chris_n |
through some freak arrangement of fingers on keyboard, /me ends up typing "git retch" rather than fetch |
| 13:21 |
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jwagner |
chris_n, your fingers have a low opinion of git? |
| 13:21 |
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* kf |
goes to look up retch |
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kf |
oh |
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chris_n |
or for wanting git to spill its guts :-P |
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jcamins |
Good morning, #koha |
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chris_n |
hi jcamins |
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kf |
hi jcamins |
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kf |
owen++ :) |
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kf |
owen: what do you think about 5210? |
| 14:02 |
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kf |
remove the button? |
| 14:02 |
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owen |
Yes, I was just about to do so. |
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owen |
I can't see any reason for it to be there. |
| 14:03 |
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kf |
yep |
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kf |
it's confusing |
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kf |
I thought it would allow to make more changes, but you can't |
| 14:04 |
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owen |
It might be a nice feature, but you'd have to build in a way to re-submit the list of barcodes/itemnumbers |
| 14:05 |
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kf |
it does not show the changes you made when you go back |
| 14:05 |
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kf |
i think for the moment it's best to remove the button |
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kf |
hm, question: I am logged in with superlibrarian and all permissions selected, I have AllowHoldPolicyOverride set to ON, but I don't see the button to overwrite my renewl limit in checkout |
| 14:09 |
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sekjal |
kf: I wonder if that's related to bug 4449 |
| 14:09 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4449 enhancement, P5, ---, ian.walls, NEW, Cannot place holds on unchecked-out missing items if AllowShelfHolds turned off |
| 14:10 |
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sekjal |
seems like the override policy option doesn't override everything |
| 14:10 |
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kf |
I am not sure this is even the right sys prefs |
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kf |
I am not trying to place hodls but renew checkouts where the limit is reached |
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kf |
or that are not renewalbe |
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kf |
I trained my librarians to do that... documenting some features today and checking if it still works in 3.2 :) |
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kf |
oh |
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kf |
my fault |
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kf |
I really had the wrong sys pref, it's AllowRenewalLimitOverride |
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sekjal |
ah |
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kf |
but would be nice to have that as permission instead |
| 14:16 |
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kf |
oh |
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kf |
there is one |
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* kf |
goes back to do more testing |
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chris_n |
are successfully delivered messages purged from the db entirely? |
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* chris_n |
thinks it is so |
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kf |
chris_n: I think no |
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jwagner |
chris_n, do you mean in the message queue? |
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chris_n |
which means there is no record of what messages were sent to a patron |
| 14:20 |
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jwagner |
Old messages are still there unless you manually purge the table. |
| 14:20 |
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chris_n |
hmm |
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kf |
or at least it is not like that in 3.01.61 and I think they should not be deleted |
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* chris_n |
will look again |
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kf |
ourl ibraries need the information a notice was sent out - I hope this has not changed |
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wizzyrea |
chris_n: i'm wondering where the notices/messaging tabs pull their information from if the messages aren't kept |
| 14:22 |
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wizzyrea |
on the members pages |
| 14:23 |
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wizzyrea |
(meaning, I'm pretty sure they are kept) |
| 14:23 |
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chris_n |
they are there... most of them at least |
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kf |
chris_n: the print notices are not shown |
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kf |
it only works for the email messages |
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chris_n |
interesting... the message_queue.borrowernumber seems to get set to NULL once the message status changes to sent |
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chris_n |
weirdness |
| 14:26 |
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wizzyrea |
there was some development that saved those print notices in a web accessible directory by our friends in bethesda |
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chris_n |
or at least in one case... |
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* wizzyrea |
hasn't used it though |
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kf |
chris_n: sounds strange, I did a lot of notices testing |
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kf |
I have not seen something like that there |
| 14:27 |
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kf |
testing with 3.01.61 most of the time |
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sekjal |
just found a fun bug in overdue_notices.pl |
| 14:27 |
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jcamins |
sekjal: I love fun bugs. |
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* kf |
is not surprised, it's 11 pages long |
| 14:28 |
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sekjal |
when you use the <item>.... </item> option for specifying fields, the code confuses the biblionumber with the itemnumber |
| 14:28 |
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chris_n |
ok, it appears to have been corrupt data, but for the life of me I don't know how that field was set to null |
| 14:29 |
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sekjal |
so you get the right biblio.title and biblio.author, but the item.itemcallnumber or item.barcode from the wrong item |
| 14:29 |
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* chris_n |
confesses to being responsible for part of that code |
| 14:29 |
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kf |
I think too many people are responsible for parts of that code |
| 14:30 |
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sekjal |
line 673 is the root of it, I believe |
| 14:30 |
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* jcamins |
is very glad he hasn't had to work with that code |
| 14:30 |
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* chris_n |
is mucking through some of it atm |
| 14:30 |
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* kf |
will have to work with it :( |
| 14:30 |
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kf |
chris suggested that some of it shoudl be part of C4 - it's really long and confusing |
| 14:30 |
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sekjal |
the whole notices system needs an overhaul |
| 14:31 |
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* chris_n |
agrees with sekjal |
| 14:31 |
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chris_n |
we need hourly fines badly |
| 14:31 |
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sekjal |
well, at least that'll come with hourly circ |
| 14:31 |
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kf |
perhaps some other glitches can be repaired then too |
| 14:31 |
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chris_n |
btw, does the fines system honor library operating hours? |
| 14:31 |
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kf |
make it more flexible... |
| 14:31 |
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kf |
the fines system does |
| 14:31 |
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kf |
honor the days |
| 14:31 |
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kf |
the notices system not |
| 14:32 |
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kf |
I wanted to write a bug report for that :( |
| 14:32 |
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chris_n |
ie. we don't fine for reference works kept over the weekend |
| 14:32 |
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chris_n |
ahh |
| 14:32 |
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chris_n |
ouch, rather |
| 14:32 |
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kf |
chris_n: I think it's not a big problem for you then, no notices on closed days - alhtough I think there is a sys pref involved here |
| 14:33 |
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kf |
noFinesWhenClosed - FineDays I think |
| 14:33 |
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kf |
but the notices are sent out without the calendar |
| 14:33 |
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kf |
it's a big problem for us, because we need to tie fine and notice together |
| 14:33 |
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sekjal |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]/Hourly_Loans_RFC |
| 14:33 |
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kf |
already printed it :) will read later! |
| 14:34 |
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chris_n |
tnx sekjal |
| 14:35 |
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kf |
sys pref and permission for overriding reneal limit work fine :) |
| 14:35 |
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sekjal |
I humbly ask anyone interested to read it, ask questions, make comments and suggestion changes |
| 14:35 |
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sekjal |
the goal is to make it work for everyone |
| 14:36 |
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chris_n |
ok, so where do I find the calendar settings? |
| 14:36 |
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kf |
sekjal++ |
| 14:36 |
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kf |
tools > calendar? |
| 14:36 |
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* chris_n |
wonders why he was under sysprefs... :-P |
| 14:36 |
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kf |
FineDays is a sys pref |
| 14:38 |
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chris_n |
kf: got it setup, thanks |
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| 14:51 |
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jcamins |
Has anyone replaced the Koha cataloging module with a more flexible interface (other than biblios)? |
| 14:51 |
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kf |
hm, I remember someone talking about something more like a text editor |
| 14:52 |
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kf |
not sure who it was, perhaps kyle hall |
| 14:52 |
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sekjal |
pianohack made a plain-text editor interface |
| 14:52 |
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kf |
ah |
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kf |
sorry, I was wrong |
| 14:52 |
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jcamins |
@seen pianohack |
| 14:52 |
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munin |
jcamins: pianohack was last seen in #koha 3 weeks, 5 days, 20 hours, 1 minute, and 9 seconds ago: <pianohack> How's it going? |
| 14:52 |
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wizzyrea |
and you can always generate records in whatever you want and import them |
| 14:52 |
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owen |
That's what we do |
| 14:53 |
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sekjal |
http://github.com/pianohacker/koha |
| 14:53 |
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jcamins |
Nifty, thanks. |
| 14:57 |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: the problem with using MarcEdit for cataloging is that it adds a whole bunch of steps, and can only be done on the one computer with MarcEdit. |
| 14:58 |
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wizzyrea |
I didn't say it was the right way :) |
| 14:59 |
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jcamins |
If we had OCLC, that would be the preferred method. |
| 15:00 |
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jcamins |
I wonder if SkyRiver has an actual cataloging utility. |
| 15:03 |
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kf |
owen: bug or feature: overwrite renewal checkbox checked, field for choosing manual renewal does only appear on tab details, not on tab checkouts |
| 15:04 |
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kf |
date field |
| 15:05 |
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owen |
Bug: it appears only after you have checked out something |
| 15:05 |
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kf |
is there a bug report? |
| 15:05 |
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owen |
I don't know |
| 15:06 |
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owen |
Bug 5051 |
| 15:06 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5051 enhancement, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, Renewal due date doesn't always show on patron Checkout tab |
| 15:07 |
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kf |
ah, I will add a comment |
| 15:07 |
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kf |
thx! |
| 15:10 |
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kf |
which version is right for this bug? 3.2? 3.4? |
| 15:10 |
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kf |
currently it's HEAD |
| 15:12 |
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owen |
I think HEAD is okay. |
| 15:12 |
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owen |
I'm not sure any more fixes are getting into 3.2 |
| 15:13 |
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jcamins |
pianohack++ |
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jcamins |
I like the text editor. |
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jcamins |
@seen wasabi |
| 15:23 |
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munin |
jcamins: wasabi was last seen in #koha 11 hours, 48 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <wasabi> morning amit |
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owen |
Man, the TMPL markup responsible for Bug 5051 makes my head hurt, partly because I know I wrote it! |
| 15:31 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5051 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, Renewal due date doesn't always show on patron Checkout tab |
| 15:31 |
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* owen |
git blames himself |
| 15:35 |
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* kf |
shares a cookie with owen |
| 15:38 |
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wizzyrea |
owen: does nelsonville restrict holds between branches? (do you use the itype holds rules) |
| 15:39 |
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owen |
No |
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wizzyrea |
k thx, just curious |
| 15:42 |
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kf |
ok, time to leave :) bye all1 |
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| 16:05 |
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jcamins |
Is there any way to find out what sysprefs have been changed from their default values? |
| 16:05 |
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wizzyrea |
it would be neat to have that for usr |
| 16:05 |
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wizzyrea |
sure |
| 16:06 |
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wizzyrea |
I suppose you could export the sysprefs table and diff it against the default rules |
| 16:06 |
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jcamins |
I don't think I care that much, but that seems like a reasonable way to do it. |
| 16:06 |
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wizzyrea |
(or the rules that are in the installer data folder) |
| 16:07 |
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owen |
Perhaps the description of each preference should show what the default is? |
| 16:08 |
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owen |
"OPACFRBRizeEditions [Show] other editions of an item on the OPAC. Default: Don't show." |
| 16:08 |
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jcamins |
That would be helpful. |
| 16:10 |
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jcamins |
I'm on a documentation kick, and having some trouble remembering what needs to be documented, and what doesn't. |
| 16:10 |
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owen |
Ideas without implementations are free! Implementations on the other hand... |
| 16:10 |
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jcamins |
owen: what, you mean you don't have the implementation in your patches-to-send queue? ;) |
| 16:11 |
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jcamins |
Hey, this is weird. |
| 16:11 |
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jcamins |
On HEAD, if you click the link to go to System Preferences, it brings you to the local use tab, and shows no preferences. |
| 16:12 |
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jcamins |
However, if you click another tab, and then click on the local use tab, all your local use preferences show up. |
| 16:14 |
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sekjal |
jcamins: looks like all the links haven't been updated yet for bug 3756 |
| 16:14 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3756 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, cnighswonger, ASSIGNED, new sys prefs - no way to add a new local use preference |
| 16:15 |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
| 16:15 |
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owen |
Bug 5100 |
| 16:15 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5100 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Incorrect link to System Preferences |
| 16:15 |
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owen |
Not in my patches-to-send queue jcamins, but in my patches-awaiting-approval queue :) |
| 16:16 |
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jcamins |
Has anyone else noticed that I use the phrase "hey, this is weird" (or some variation) at least once a day? |
| 16:16 |
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sekjal |
owen: did you want a sign-off on that? I'm in that kind of mode right now. |
| 16:17 |
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owen |
Feel free! |
| 16:19 |
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owen |
I wish bugzilla would track who attached the latest patch. Then you could make a list of bugs others have submitted patches for |
| 16:19 |
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owen |
Maybe with the "advanced search using boolean charts" |
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| 16:36 |
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jcamins |
What happened to the patch for bug 5101? |
| 16:36 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5101 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Creators tab isn't highlighted when selected |
| 16:36 |
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owen |
What do you mean? |
| 16:37 |
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jcamins |
I thought I remembered it being pushed, but my demo running HEAD still shows the bug. |
| 16:37 |
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sekjal |
jcamins: doesn't look like it was commited yet |
| 16:38 |
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owen |
Nope |
| 16:38 |
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jcamins |
Okay, just so long as everyone agrees about that. :) After the weirdness with the ANS's catalog missing a few commits, I'm a little paranoid about these things. |
| 16:43 |
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sekjal |
signed off on bug 5101 |
| 16:43 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5101 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Creators tab isn't highlighted when selected |
| 16:45 |
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wizzyrea |
urg. The slips don't include intranetuserjs |
| 16:45 |
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wizzyrea |
at least the hold transit slips dont |
| 16:45 |
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wizzyrea |
er |
| 16:45 |
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wizzyrea |
well let me qualify that |
| 16:45 |
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wizzyrea |
the version I'm using doesn't allow that |
| 16:45 |
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wizzyrea |
>.> |
| 16:46 |
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wizzyrea |
So. I need a way to modify them. How... |
| 16:48 |
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owen |
Yeah, sorry wizzyrea , the slip page is designed to be lean and speedy |
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wizzyrea |
if only there were an intranetusercss |
| 16:48 |
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wizzyrea |
ok |
| 16:48 |
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wizzyrea |
then I have a suggestion |
| 16:48 |
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wizzyrea |
well |
| 16:48 |
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wizzyrea |
never mind |
| 16:48 |
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wizzyrea |
actually |
| 16:48 |
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owen |
:D |
| 16:48 |
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wizzyrea |
let me verify it's actually a problem still on head |
| 16:49 |
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wizzyrea |
and aside from that |
| 16:49 |
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wizzyrea |
I"ll just f-in fix it if it is. |
| 16:50 |
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owen |
f-in a. |
| 16:50 |
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wizzyrea |
;) |
| 16:51 |
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wizzyrea |
aside: http://screencast.com/t/ZTYzMDMw |
| 16:51 |
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wizzyrea |
are those itype images? |
| 16:51 |
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owen |
Yes |
| 16:51 |
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wizzyrea |
aha |
| 16:51 |
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wizzyrea |
wonder why they're broken |
| 16:52 |
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* wizzyrea |
puts it on the list |
| 16:52 |
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owen |
It's working for me in HEAD |
| 16:52 |
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wizzyrea |
hm |
| 16:53 |
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owen |
(I don't have a broken image I mean) |
| 16:54 |
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wizzyrea |
ooh, I wasn't quite up to date |
| 16:54 |
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wizzyrea |
do you have the pref to show them on? |
| 16:55 |
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wizzyrea |
I don't maybe that's the difference |
| 16:56 |
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wizzyrea |
urg, no. w/e |
| 16:56 |
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owen |
? |
| 16:56 |
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wizzyrea |
it's broken with the pref either way, but I'm workin on something else it'll have to wait. :/ |
| 16:58 |
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owen |
wizzyrea: Looks like if you don't have an item type image specified you get a broken image. That's a new bug |
| 16:58 |
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wizzyrea |
Oh. |
| 16:58 |
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wizzyrea |
well I will file one then :P |
| 16:59 |
|
* owen |
hates hates hates that Firefox doesn't show a broken image icon for broken images |
| 17:00 |
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wizzyrea |
they're "helping" |
| 17:00 |
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owen |
I'm surprised a developer hasn't come up with an add-on to fix that by now |
| 17:08 |
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nengard |
can anyone tell me how to force my system to generate overdue notices? |
| 17:08 |
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nengard |
I tried the following: |
| 17:08 |
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nengard |
nengard debian:~/kohaclone$ misc/cronjobs/overdue_notices.pl |
| 17:08 |
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nengard |
nengarddebian:~/kohaclone$ misc/cronjobs/overdue_notices.pl -t |
| 17:08 |
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nengard |
but neither seemed to generate notices |
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| 17:17 |
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jcamins |
Why _isn't_ there an IntranetCSS option? |
| 17:17 |
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jcamins |
I don't need one, I'm just curious. |
| 17:18 |
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owen |
It's just an oversight |
| 17:18 |
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owen |
Bug 3381 |
| 17:18 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3381 enhancement, P5, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, Add an IntranetUserCSS system preference |
| 17:18 |
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jcamins |
Ah. Good explanation. |
| 17:18 |
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nengard |
:) |
| 17:21 |
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hdl |
nengard: overdunotices generates mail which have to be processed by process_message_queue in message_queue table |
| 17:21 |
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nengard |
hdl, the messages aren't in my queue even ... |
| 17:21 |
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hdl |
huh??? |
| 17:21 |
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nengard |
hang on - going to look once more ... |
| 17:22 |
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cait |
hi koha |
| 17:22 |
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nengard |
hdl, the only messages in my queue are hold messages |
| 17:22 |
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nengard |
it makes no sense |
| 17:23 |
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hdl |
is it a fresh master ? |
| 17:23 |
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jcamins |
hi cait |
| 17:24 |
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nengard |
hdl yes - just did a rebase yesterday |
| 17:24 |
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nengard |
but obviously something is wrong in my install |
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| 17:31 |
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nengard |
okay i tried to reset again and still nothing ... here's what I did: |
| 17:31 |
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nengard |
nengarddebian:~/kohaclone$ git checkout -b newhead origin |
| 17:31 |
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nengard |
Branch newhead set up to track remote branch refs/remotes/origin/master. |
| 17:31 |
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nengard |
Switched to a new branch "newhead" |
| 17:31 |
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nengard |
nengarddebian:~/kohaclone$ misc/cronjobs/overdue_notices.pl |
| 17:31 |
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nengard |
nengarddebian:~/kohaclone$ git reset --hard HEAD |
| 17:31 |
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nengard |
HEAD is now at e58961f Merge branch 'translation' of git://git.workbuffer.org/git/koha into to-push |
| 17:31 |
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nengard |
nengarddebian:~/kohaclone$ misc/cronjobs/overdue_notices.pl |
| 17:37 |
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hdl |
mmmm do you have overduerules set ? |
| 17:39 |
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nengard |
hdl, which are you talking about? I have notice triggers set and I have it set to YES for overdue notices on the patron categories ... off to double and triple check though |
| 17:39 |
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cait |
nengard: have you added rules to the standard library? |
| 17:39 |
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cait |
notice trigger rules for standard library |
| 17:39 |
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cait |
finesMode to production |
| 17:40 |
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nengard |
cait you mean default library? |
| 17:40 |
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cait |
yep |
| 17:40 |
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cait |
I had problems with that in the past |
| 17:40 |
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nengard |
yes - and as for finesmode - why would that matter - this is for an overdue notice not to accrue fines |
| 17:40 |
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cait |
never add ntoice triggers for default library |
| 17:40 |
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cait |
you are right about the findeMode |
| 17:41 |
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nengard |
cait - actually i only have triggers for the default library - not the others |
| 17:41 |
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cait |
delete them and add one for the specific library |
| 17:41 |
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cait |
there is an old bug and I don't remember it was fixed |
| 17:43 |
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cait |
bug 3393 |
| 17:43 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3393 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED, Default branches and overdues notices |
| 17:43 |
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nengard |
i'll try that cait |
| 17:44 |
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cait |
I spend more time with fines and notices than I ever wanted to :) |
| 17:44 |
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nengard |
yes |
| 17:47 |
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nengard |
HA!!!! that did it!!!! |
| 17:47 |
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nengard |
what a HUGE BUG! |
| 17:47 |
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nengard |
cait++ |
| 17:47 |
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cait |
and very old too |
| 17:47 |
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cait |
I tracked a lot of duplicates |
| 17:48 |
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cait |
happy that it works now :) |
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sekjal |
I patched 3393... and I thought it got commited... huh |
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nengard |
sekjal, i think owen's comment on that bug means it was pushed to 3.x but not HEAD |
| 17:50 |
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cait |
I think there was a patch galen commented too |
| 17:51 |
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sekjal |
weird. I'm seeing that I sent it three times |
| 17:53 |
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cait |
hm and paul and nahuel had patches too |
| 17:53 |
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cait |
ah, paul not, misreading the bug |
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rhcl_away is now known as rhcl |
| 17:53 |
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cait |
sekjal: is your patch in bugzilla? I have checked the duplicate bugs but only found nahuel's patch |
| 17:54 |
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sekjal |
I must have only gotten halfway through the publication process |
| 17:54 |
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sekjal |
I blame too much multitasking |
| 17:55 |
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cait |
chris_n: now I found the bug... bug 3941 |
| 17:55 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3941 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Notices Tab on Patron Records Showing All Msgs |
| 17:56 |
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rhcl |
is this a good working example of a cronjob I can use? |
| 17:56 |
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rhcl |
overdue_notices.pl -t -html /tmp/noticedir -itemscontent issuedate,date_due,title,barcode,author |
| 17:56 |
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rhcl |
If I only what printed output (to a text file), do I need to add "-n" or is that handled by the "html" |
| 17:56 |
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rhcl |
? |
| 17:57 |
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chris_n |
cait: it seems to work in the current HEAD |
| 17:57 |
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rhcl |
overdue_notices.pl -n -t -html /tmp/noticedir -itemscontent issuedate,date_due,title,barcode,author |
| 17:57 |
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chris_n |
cait: I wonder if that bug should be closed out? |
| 17:57 |
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cait |
chris_n: if you tested it make a comment and close it :) |
| 17:57 |
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chris_n |
will do, its on my list :-) |
| 17:58 |
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chris_n |
today has been a Koha day for me :) |
| 17:59 |
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cait |
for me every day is a koha day - love my job :) |
| 17:59 |
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nengard |
cait you helped me be able to test sekjal's patch |
| 17:59 |
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nengard |
thanks! |
| 17:59 |
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cait |
happy that I was able to help |
| 17:59 |
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nengard |
also - same here! koha day everyday! love it! |
| 18:03 |
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sekjal |
okay, published my patch for 3393 on bugs.k-c |
| 18:03 |
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sekjal |
not sure what I was thinking or doing when I originally sent it to the list |
| 18:08 |
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* owen |
wonders what he was doing before lunch |
| 18:09 |
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* wizzyrea |
too |
| 18:10 |
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cait |
me too |
| 18:10 |
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cait |
not my day, threw sugar pot on the floor, spilled green tea and tried to soak kitchen in hot chocolate |
| 18:10 |
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cait |
all in the last 10 minutes |
| 18:11 |
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wizzyrea |
wow |
| 18:11 |
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nengard |
hot chocolate and green tea??? |
| 18:11 |
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wizzyrea |
^^ is relevant to my interests |
| 18:11 |
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cait |
why not? |
| 18:11 |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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nengard |
just wondering why you're drinking them both at the same time |
| 18:11 |
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wizzyrea |
why not? |
| 18:11 |
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cait |
the hot chocolate goes first |
| 18:11 |
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nengard |
ahh - see now it's okay :) |
| 18:12 |
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nengard |
hehe - maybe i'm the weird one :) |
| 18:12 |
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cait |
it's getting colder here and I have to read that xslt chapter for my distance study |
| 18:12 |
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nengard |
i live on green tea |
| 18:12 |
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cait |
I need every help I can get |
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cait |
organic japan sencha - yum |
| 18:15 |
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nengard |
hmmmm - dont think i've had that |
| 18:16 |
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nengard |
genmai is my tea of choice |
| 18:16 |
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cait |
wizzyrea: your bug sounds familiar - bug 3524 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3524 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Display of item type image/description when placing holds (broken image / no description) |
| 18:16 |
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nengard |
but i also have a tea from teavanna that's a mix of jsmine green and tropical roobis (spell?) |
| 18:16 |
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wizzyrea |
ok cool |
| 18:16 |
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wizzyrea |
well I"ll just dump mine then |
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cait |
no, mine was fixed |
| 18:16 |
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cait |
but I wonder if it crept in |
| 18:16 |
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cait |
back |
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nengard |
it's great to have so many people around to remember bugs !! |
| 18:17 |
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wizzyrea |
well it's definitely back |
| 18:17 |
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owen |
If anyone is curious, this works: http://www.deuxcode.com/articl[…]olders-in-firefox |
| 18:17 |
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cait |
I will remember bugs but not the the things from my distace study course :( |
| 18:17 |
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wizzyrea |
heyyyy neat |
| 18:18 |
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cait |
nengard: I have to try jasmine tea soon |
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nengard |
sometimes it's too strong on it's own |
| 18:18 |
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cait |
nengard: do you know chocolate with green tea (matcha)? I love it |
| 18:19 |
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cait |
but it's difficult to get |
| 18:19 |
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nengard |
i haven't |
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nengard |
but does sound yumm |
| 18:19 |
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wizzyrea |
does anybody have a SSL HEAD handy? |
| 18:19 |
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* wizzyrea |
doesn't |
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cait |
ssl head? |
| 18:19 |
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wizzyrea |
a version of koha running head (or close to it) that uses SSL |
| 18:19 |
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wizzyrea |
https |
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cait |
ah |
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cait |
ours are 3.01.61 |
| 18:20 |
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wizzyrea |
do you use SSL? |
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cait |
all using https |
| 18:20 |
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wizzyrea |
WOO |
| 18:20 |
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wizzyrea |
ok |
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chris |
Morning |
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cait |
you get some ugly error message with amazon features turned on, but works without problems |
| 18:20 |
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wizzyrea |
do you have any issues with it kicking you out of secure access surrounding z searching, advanced searches |
| 18:21 |
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cait |
not really error messages - warnings from firefox about content from another url |
| 18:21 |
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wizzyrea |
or hangs while importing messages |
| 18:21 |
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wizzyrea |
hangs while importing records |
| 18:21 |
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wizzyrea |
hey chris |
| 18:21 |
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wizzyrea |
how's the kiddo (and the rest of the fam, for that matter) |
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cait |
I do not often import records in staff, but never had any problems |
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cait |
morning chris |
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chris |
On the mend but still sick last I heard |
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wizzyrea |
:/ |
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cait |
and my librarians reported no kick outs |
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cait |
:( |
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cait |
what happened? |
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wizzyrea |
cool beans, thanks for checking cait |
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cait |
no problem |
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cait |
we are using https from the beginning, I think serious problems should have shown up by now |
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nengard |
chris, that's good news |
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wizzyrea |
right, my librarians report being kicked out when they click on the advanced intranet search |
| 18:24 |
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wizzyrea |
er, kicked to regular http |
| 18:24 |
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wizzyrea |
but |
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wizzyrea |
that's not HEAD |
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* wizzyrea |
would like to hear that it doesn't happen that way on HEASD |
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nengard |
wizzyrea we have some customers running that wy |
| 18:25 |
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nengard |
way |
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nengard |
i'll see if i can find one |
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chris |
Yeah I haven't seen that in master |
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cait |
wizzyrea: I think my test installation is not running on https, but will check at work tomorrow |
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wizzyrea |
k sec screencast for reproduce inc |
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wizzyrea |
http://screencast.com/t/YzRkMWQyNj |
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nengard |
wizzyrea, in the staff client on a near HEAD install when i click advanced it keeps me in https |
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wizzyrea |
what happens when you search |
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nengard |
after searching it stays |
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wizzyrea |
woot ok good |
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* wizzyrea |
feels happy |
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nengard |
i clicked your link but it didn't show me anything - cause i'm probably blocking the script :) |
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wizzyrea |
it's flash |
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wizzyrea |
dk |
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nengard |
yeah for some reason flashblock isn't showing me the play button |
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wizzyrea |
:/ the highlight is |
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wizzyrea |
if you search for something from https, once you click "search" it gives you results in http |
| 18:30 |
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wizzyrea |
but |
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wizzyrea |
since you have verified that master doesn't do that |
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wizzyrea |
it's of no concern here. |
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chris |
:) |
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briceSanc |
hello ! |
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chris |
Hi bricesanc |
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briceSanc |
Do you know the technical characteristics to operate KOHA (CPU, RAM, Disk space,...)? |
| 18:48 |
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chris |
How long is a piece of string? |
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chris |
:) |
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briceSanc |
Do you know the techs specs to run KOHA (CPU, RAM, Disk space,...)? (better than google translate :) |
| 18:48 |
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chris |
It totally depends on the size of the library |
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schuster |
Size of library, number of anticipated users, number of transactions... |
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chris |
Ps its Koha .... not an acronym, but a maori word :) |
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sekjal |
briceSanc: for production libraries of a small size, I'd recommend at least 512MB RAM and 20GB. More for larger, certainly |
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owen |
KOHA = Kalamazoo Optimist Hockey Association |
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sekjal |
sorry, 20GB diskspace |
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schuster |
I have 68 locations do over 30,000 circs a day hundreds of opac hits a day about 250,000 bibs, 1.3 million items. I'm running a Dell 2950 - 2 quad processors |
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wizzyrea |
30k circs a day! |
| 18:51 |
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wizzyrea |
srs?! |
| 18:51 |
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wizzyrea |
that's super cool. |
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chris |
For schusters id actually have a db server sep |
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chris |
And a couple of load balanced webservers |
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schuster |
16 GB of memory, 8 - 146 gb drives with raid 10 |
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chris |
Just for redundancy |
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owen |
30,000 / 68 is only 441, so it's not crazy at all |
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schuster |
We are looking at moving Zebra and the indexes to another server right now we are being hammered by orientation and kids learning how to use the pac |
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schuster |
between the hours of 8 and 2 by the way on circ and most of the circ is really done by about 46 of the schools. |
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schuster |
(elementary) Checkin is amazing in the morning... We don't circulate magazines as it slows the process WAY down. |
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schuster |
They do about 20,000 checkins every morning between 7-9 at those 46 schools. |
| 18:54 |
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wizzyrea |
^^ seems a bit amazing to me still |
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schuster |
me too... |
| 18:55 |
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wizzyrea |
but maybe it's just all the 0's |
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chris |
Zebra and mysql both use io a lot sep servers is good |
| 18:55 |
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schuster |
To think that there is just a librarian and MAYBE a volunteer... |
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schuster |
chris - when we started having near stoppages due to searches taking forever I decided to move our discussion about what would help in the short term and you had suggested the Zebra move. |
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chris |
You can run multiple zebra too |
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chris |
Ie 2 frontends with their own zebra |
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chris |
That talk back to one db server |
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schuster |
In about 4 weeks it will become a non issue so one Zebra will probably suffice. |
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wizzyrea |
what happens in 4 weeks? |
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schuster |
I just want to speed up the cko/cki/patron lookup... and still be able to allow kids to search. |
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chris |
Yep moving the searches to their own machine |
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schuster |
Library orientation will be over and they will go to teaching library lessons on literature and using other databases. They are reminding the kids now how to look up books. |
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chris |
Is the perfect way |
| 18:59 |
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wizzyrea |
oh |
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chris |
Ie the opac is one server, with its own Zebra |
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schuster |
So we have 68 schools and probably every hour we have 2 schools with a total of 60 kids doing a very basic search all at the same time bumps the load average from 2 to 45 in about 3 minutes and circ crawls |
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wizzyrea |
wow, yea it sounds like you have a need for some infrastructure design there. |
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schuster |
opac wil still be on the production server, but moving the indexing I think will help the most for now. |
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chris |
It will help some |
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chris |
But they are still holding open an apache thread |
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chris |
That circ then can't use |
| 19:02 |
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* chris |
has learnt lots from stuff.co.nz , millions of hits each hour etc |
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schuster |
Not optimal, but I need to make due with what I have right now. Can't make too many changes in the middle of a school year. Will have to talk with my vendor about local optimization changes for next summer. |
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chris |
Good luck with that |
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briceSanc |
In my case, each library will have about 13 simultaneous connections to the database, 40 permanent connections to KOHA and 200,000 references. What are my technical requirements? |
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schuster |
I like having the servers local and not in the cloud... |
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chris |
Yup |
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chris |
I would too |
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schuster |
They are open to helping me which is good... |
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schuster |
briceSanc - you don't need much... There are companies that will actually host it for you in the cloud if you don't want to deal with the hardware... |
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chris |
Maybe you can ask them to stop attacking the rest of us :) |
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schuster |
;) |
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chris |
Yeah a single server would be enough for that bricesanc, backed up of course |
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briceSanc |
schuster, my company also hosts websites but KOHA is new for us, so we are trying to make the good choice. |
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owen |
briceSanc: Koha is not an acronym, so it should not be in all-capitals. Koha is a Maori word. |
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schuster |
Koha not KOHA |
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wizzyrea |
clearly it's a common peeve. :) |
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nengard |
it's certainly one of mine |
| 19:16 |
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wizzyrea |
mine too :) |
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nengard |
i've actually added a slide to my koha talks about it |
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schuster |
You know you are popular when??? |
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owen |
Someone needs to let Bugzilla's quips list know: "Depending on the situation, it might be written "koha" or "Koha" or maybe even "KOHA". Writing "kOha" just means you got the shifting out of sync, though." |
| 19:17 |
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wizzyrea |
haha |
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wizzyrea |
@quote random |
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munin |
wizzyrea: Quote #26: "<chris> as an aside C4::Search makes my brain hurt" (added by jdavidb at 05:21 PM, August 22, 2009) |
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wizzyrea |
@quote add Koha is not an acronym, so it should not be in all-capitals. Koha is a Maori word. |
| 19:18 |
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munin |
wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #93 added. |
| 19:18 |
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wizzyrea |
@quote get 93 |
| 19:18 |
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munin |
wizzyrea: Quote #93: "Koha is not an acronym, so it should not be in all-capitals. Koha is a Maori word." (added by wizzyrea at 03:20 PM, September 09, 2010) |
| 19:18 |
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chris |
Ok time to pack up and start driving to auckland |
| 19:19 |
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chris |
Then fly home |
| 19:19 |
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wizzyrea |
there, now we can just @quote get 93 and be done with it |
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chris |
Cyas later |
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owen |
Have a good one chris |
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wizzyrea |
later chris save travels |
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wizzyrea |
safe* |
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schuster |
We have an all division meeting at 3:30 so about 300 of your closest employee friends in administration. |
| 19:19 |
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schuster |
I'll be leaving soon to get a parking spot! |
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briceSanc |
We have 20 libraries to host, the smallest with 13 simultaneous users and 200,000 records and the biggest with 150 users and 300,000 records. We've thought of 5 servers (5 * 4 Koha) - 2 x Quad core - 16Gb of RAM - 500GB / Koha - all powered with KVM or XEN. We just have lack of precision, so we ask you to help make the right choices. |
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briceSanc |
owen, schuster, Ok for Koha :) |
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cait |
@whois briceSanc |
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munin |
cait: Error: <domain> must be in .com, .net, .edu, or .org. |
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cait |
*sigh* |
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cait |
where are you located briceSanc? |
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wizzyrea |
cait: /whois briceSanc |
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briceSanc |
Qu�bec (QC), Canada |
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cait |
yep |
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cait |
ah :) |
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cait |
wb owen |
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* owen |
suffered a strange loss of connectivity |
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reva |
Hi anyone (jcamin, owen, or chris_n, wizzyrea or Braedon): where is the opac serial issue display count? I have 3.00.06. |
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cait |
I think there is a sys pref perhaps in 3.00.6 |
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reva |
I do not find it "serials" under system preferences at all as the 3.0 manual says. |
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cait |
not sure there is one in the subscription in this version |
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reva |
ok, cait: I do not find serials on the left panel among the menu choices. May be it is not available for 3.0.6. |
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cait |
sorry, I have no 3.0.x to look at |
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cait |
ah, I send a patch to show publication place |
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owen |
What are you trying to see reva? |
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cait |
last week? not sure. but I promised you I would :) |
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reva |
cait: I want to control the number itmized serial holdings on the opac. |
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reva |
I was just going to remind you of the patch. Thanks cait: |
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reva |
my email is reva12gmail.com. |
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cait |
I send it to the patches list, let me get the link for you |
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reva |
ok, that would be great. |
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cait |
http://lists.koha-community.or[…]ugust/012495.html |
| 19:54 |
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cait |
bug 5187 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5187 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, NEW, Show place of publication (260$a) in OPAC/Staff |
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cait |
hope it's what you wanted, a real small change |
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reva |
ok got it. I will look over it and see if I understand what it is doing before plunging in. But that is what I wanted. |
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cait |
cool :) |
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reva |
ok, it looks like there is no way to control the number of items displayed on the serial holdings. Thanks Cait: |
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cait |
you can control the number of issues shown in the opac for subscriptions in 3.2 |
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reva |
That is issue (no pun with serials) for another time, when the beta stable is released for 3.2 and we install it. |
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reva |
Bye for now. Are all of you from NZ? I hope people in Christchurch are getting the help they need. We have aquaintances who live there. |
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cait |
reva: I am from Germany |
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wizzyrea |
< Kansas, US |
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cait |
we are very international here .) |
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reva |
Oh, I thought maybe there were some people from NZ. But best from here, the Caribbean. Thanks for all the help.:) |
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cait |
there are |
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cait |
but not only :) |
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wizzyrea |
the kiwis are still getting to work ;) |
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wizzyrea |
it's tomorrow there. |
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reva |
That is right, and here we get to go home for the evening today. |
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* cait |
is already at home and near bed time :) |
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reva |
Ok, you kind of win cait: But there is something to be said for looking forward than to experiencing the evening at home. There:). Bye for now. |
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cait |
bye :) |
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briceSanc |
bye all ! |
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cait |
good night :) |
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richard |
hi |
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chris |
Hi from bucklame airport |
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richard |
bucklame? |
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chris |
Auckland |
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richard |
:) |
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chris |
The old nokia phones predictive text used to convert it to that |
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chris |
Quite apt |
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robin |
I always like "Funedin" |
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brendan |
@wunder 93117 |
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munin |
brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 21.5�C (3:07 PM PDT on September 09, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012.4 hPa (Falling). |
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moodaepo |
@wunder 56001 |
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moodaepo |
@wunder 56001 |
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munin |
moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is 17.1�C (5:23 PM CDT on September 09, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.00 in 981.9 hPa (Rising). |
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brendan |
hi moodaepo |
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* moodaepo |
ah what a difference a single space makes |
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moodaepo |
hey brendan |
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