IRC log for #koha, 2010-03-11

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02:09 chris_n heatwave in Minnesota :)
02:10 chris_n @wunder 28334
02:10 munin chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 12.0�C (9:02 PM EST on March 10, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
02:10 * chris_n bangs a virtual pot to see if anybody is awake
02:27 * wizzyrea_laptop jerks awake
02:27 * wizzyrea_laptop yawns
02:28 wizzyrea_laptop sup chris_n
02:28 chris_n heh
02:28 chris_n just beginning to comence to start to prepare for sleep
02:29 wizzyrea_laptop man, you took all the good adjectives
02:29 * wizzyrea_laptop goes to get her thesaurus
02:29 chris_n lol :)
02:30 * wizzyrea_laptop mutters something about "thinks he can top an english major..."
02:30 wizzyrea_laptop j/k j/k
02:30 * chris_n ducks
02:32 chris_n the only major I have in english is a major problem
02:33 wizzyrea_laptop well I was just planning on broaching the preliminary pilot test of virtually hacking up monsters.
02:33 * wizzyrea_laptop is mightily amused by this conversation
02:36 * chris_n attempts to write code to make rectabular extrusions trasmogrify
02:37 * wizzyrea_laptop wonders if chris_n can see through time
02:38 chris_n only far enough ahead to see disasters there is not time to avoid
02:38 chris_n :)
02:38 wizzyrea_laptop lolol
02:38 chris_n well, off to get some rest
02:38 chris_n g'night
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03:39 Amit hi all
03:39 Amit heya chris, chris_n
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06:57 Ropuch Morning #koha
07:01 Genji hiya
07:02 Genji do i need the $query thats going into GetRecords to be utf8 to ascii encoded or something?
07:03 Genji i need to make a query in a script file, out of the normal BuildQuery, / GetRecords flow.....
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07:19 Amit heya Genji, Ropuch
07:20 Ropuch Hello Amit, Genji
07:20 Genji Hello Amit, Ropuch
07:20 Genji hehe
07:21 Genji anyone know anything about my question?
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08:11 Genji i get (rk=( su,phr="????? ???????")) for my query, instead of something like (rk=( su,phr="\xd8\xa7\xd9\x84\xd8\xaa​\xd8\xb7\xd9\x88\xd9\x8a\xd8\xb1 \xd8\xa7\xd9\x84\xd8\xaa\xd8\x​b1\xd8\xa8\xd9\x88\xd9\x8a"))
08:12 Genji what do i need to do to my utf8 string?
08:12 Genji oh.. and hte ?'s are actually utf8 encoded text. which doesn't translate in irc....
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11:53 CGI424 Hello, I need some some help to solve an issue with Koha 2.2.9, can anyone try to help me ?
11:56 CGI424 When i try to add a notice, I get an error 500. Here is related extract of error log
11:57 CGI424 referer: http://..../cgi-bin/koha/​mple/
11:58 CGI424 not well-formed (invalid token) at line 13, column 31, byte 512 at /usr/lib/perl5/XML/ line 187, referer: http://.../cgi-bin/koha/acqui.sim​ple/
11:58 CGI424 Premature end of script headers:, referer: http://.../cgi-bin/koha/acqui.sim​ple/
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12:54 jwagner G'morning all
12:55 magnus_away g'day!
12:55 magnus_away oops
12:55 magnus_away is now known as magnus
12:55 magnus that's better
12:55 magnus i was just about to comment on how quiet it has been here the last couple days...
12:56 jwagner Ahhhhh.  Peace and quiet......
12:57 magnus hehe
13:09 jwagner @quote random
13:09 munin jwagner: Quote #63: "<jwagner> But no one expects the Spammish Inquisition!" (added by jdavidb at 08:50 AM, March 01, 2010)
13:10 braedon|home1 @wunder auckland nz
13:10 munin braedon|home1: The current temperature in Auckland, New Zealand is 19.0�C (1:00 AM NZDT on March 12, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
13:11 magnus that's not too shabby!
13:11 magnus @wunder bodo, norway
13:11 munin magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -1.0�C (1:50 PM CET on March 11, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Steady).
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13:11 braedon|home1 for 1 am, indeed. rather hot for sleeping unfortunatly
13:11 magnus we have had about 50cm of fresh snow in the last 3-4 days...
13:12 braedon|home1 haha, if it was snowing here, now that would be interesting :P
13:12 jwagner And we're finally getting some spring-like temperatures.  Right in the middle :-)
13:13 magnus at least the sun is shining right now - it's rather pretty with the sea and the mountains and the pristine snow...
13:13 * braedon|home1 must get back to transcribing the doom song (which is fun when all the words are "doom") - don't ask
13:14 * magnus is very tempted to ask, but will refrain...
13:15 * jwagner wonders if that's anything like the song Terry Pratchett's dwarfs are so fond of. "Gold Gold Gold Gold..."
13:16 braedon|home1 jwagner: quite possibly. try watching invader zim some time - it is in the first episode
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13:28 jdavidb Howdy, #koha.
13:34 owen Hi
13:35 * jwagner is not high yet, but has hopes for later in the day :-)
13:36 jwagner It's amazing what a little chocolate can do....
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13:45 owen Wow, lots of patches from hdl yesterday!
13:45 gmcharlt lots and lots
13:46 magnus a tidal wave of patches... ;-)
13:46 jwagner When the first email I opened this morning was headed patch 1 of 55, I began to worry....
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13:58 rhcl_home ping jdavidb
14:01 jdavidb pong.
14:03 * jdavidb peers quizzically at rhcl_home.
14:14 * owen wonders what's up with Zotero not getting an update for Firefox 3.6
14:15 gmcharlt jdavidb: you're everybody's favorite ping-ee, I suppose :)
14:17 rhcl_home jdavidb: hang on, I'm on my way to work and will ping you there.
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14:18 * owen is going to start calling jdavidb every day to let him know when he's on his way to work :P
14:19 * owen corrects himself: wondering now why the Zotero plugin on isn't the latest one
14:21 * jdavidb is wandering around in a fog of flaky code and unanswered pings today.
14:22 gmcharlt owen: dunno, but I think the Zotero folks are pretty responsive to such questions
14:23 owen They have a comment on about the latest version being on their site. It must be a delay
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14:28 adegroff hi have question/ need help
14:28 adegroff woops disregard - -figured it out
14:29 owen Another satisfied customer of #koha!
14:29 gmcharlt the power of #koha - some questions don't even need to be asked to be fixed ;)
14:29 jwagner see, jdavidb, there IS a psychic module!
14:30 adegroff :-)
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14:39 sekjal good morning, #koha
14:42 jwagner morning, sekjal
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14:55 ebegin good morning all!
14:55 chris sorry jwagner, couldnt resist
14:55 ebegin day or night :)
14:56 owen Shouldn't you be in bed chris? :)
14:57 chris its only 10.55pm here in singapore
14:58 chris 3.55am back in nz tho
14:58 chris so yes id normally be asleep
15:02 jwagner chris, couldn't resist what?  Did I miss something?
15:02 owen His response to you on the Koha list
15:03 jwagner Ah.  Don't always keep up with the email.  Yes, I could do a patch for it.  I just keep hoping SOMEONE who knows how will actually fix it instead :-)
15:04 jwagner I keep getting plaintive questions from my sites about wanting to schedule reports, and I don't know how to go about fixing the scheduler myself.
15:04 chris suexec and at
15:04 chris to solve atz's issues
15:05 * jwagner thinks chris is speaking Greek....
15:05 jwagner I keep repeating the mantra "I Are Not A Real Programmer"
15:05 chris each koha instance should be running as a seperate user anyway, there is no need to run them all as www-data
15:07 chris maybe when i finish ill fix it :)
15:07 jwagner chris, I thought you were working on
15:08 chris yeah that ones too hard
15:08 chris im just gonna bend the laws of physics instead
15:08 paul_p hello world
15:09 braedon|home1 cloning doesn't require any law breaking or bending
15:09 * chris may have been drinking singapore slings, so might be making no sense
15:09 sekjal hello, paul_p.
15:09 braedon|home1 just the ability to iterate through me.atoms, replicating and reassembling as you go
15:12 braedon|home1 anywho, as i am actually in NZ, not skiving off in singapore, it is actually after 4am, so i should really head to bed
15:12 braedon|home1 night #koha
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15:21 chris where skiving off == working 2 14 hour days, then being grilled by 8 people :)
15:21 chris admittedly im skiving off now :)
15:21 braedon|home1 see, how did i know?
15:21 jwagner But don't forget the Singapore Slings!
15:21 braedon|home1 (ues, i am still here and not in bed)
15:22 braedon|home1 s/ues/yes/
15:22 * braedon|home1 curses stumbleupon
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16:32 * jwagner does happy dance -- finished final draft of 55-page documentation....
16:34 brendan :)
16:34 jwagner Documentation? We don't need no steenkin' documentation!!!
16:35 paul_p jwagner: 55 pages to document what ?
16:36 jwagner A whole bunch of our features.  Most are on bugzilla, this fleshes out the user instructions.
16:36 jwagner (screen shots account for a lot of the pages needed)
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17:27 magnus_away bye #koha!
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17:42 brendan @weather 93117
17:42 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 13.1�C (9:37 AM PST on March 11, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Pressure: 30.17 in 1021.6 hPa (Rising).
17:51 * chris_n attempts to uncross his eyes :P
17:52 chris_n @wunder 28334
17:52 munin chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 18.0�C (12:43 PM EST on March 11, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Rising).
17:52 brendan nice chris_n --> I think that's the first time you've out temped me in a littel while
17:53 chris_n we're in our upward swing
18:04 wizzyrea_ @wunder lawrence, ks
18:04 munin wizzyrea_: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 6.3�C (12:03 PM CST on March 11, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Windchill: 6.0�C. Pressure: 29.55 in 1000.6 hPa (Steady).
18:04 wizzyrea_ blerg
18:04 wizzyrea_ it was warm yesterday
18:10 jdavidb @wunder 20817
18:10 munin jdavidb: The current temperature in Langley Fork Park, McLean, Virginia is 18.5�C (1:09 PM EST on March 11, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013.4 hPa (Steady).
18:10 * jdavidb goes :P at wizzyrea_
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18:24 Ata hi all
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18:27 CGI952 hii koha users
18:27 CGI952 how do u do all?
18:27 CGI952 :)
18:28 CGI952 hmmm
18:28 CGI952 why are you silent dudes?
18:29 jwagner Because we're busy working on things?
18:29 CGI952 sorry for disturbing you...
18:29 CGI952 oh
18:29 CGI952 thanks jawagner :)
18:29 jwagner Disturbing isn't the issue.  But immediate responses can be rare.
18:30 owen If you have a question CGI952 feel free to ask
18:31 CGI952 is there any recommendation for hardware to install koha on a production server?
18:31 CGI952 having 200 thousand bibliographic records
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18:31 CGI952 and 200 circulation transactions daily
18:32 CGI952 i want to install koha 3 on ubuntu
18:32 * owen isn't up on the hardware side of things
18:33 * jwagner either :-(
18:33 CGI952 can anyone suggest or plz reffer me to some sections of koha manual
18:33 CGI952 is nicole there?
18:34 jwagner She's on travel today, I think
18:34 CGI952 i think she can show me some path
18:34 CGI952 isnt?
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18:34 owen
18:35 CGI952 @owen thanks but i could not find any section abt my query
18:35 munin CGI952: Error: "owen" is not a valid command.
18:35 CGI952 <CGI952> @owen thanks but i could not find any section abt my query
18:37 rhcl CGI: do you want some specific recommendations, or general guidelines for hardware?
18:38 CGI952 rhcl a library want me to install koha on there server and they want some RAID configureation too
18:38 CGI952 kyle advised that RAID will slow down the server
18:39 CGI952 so i want to tell them the recommended hardware specs if any
18:39 brendan RAID is always best if that is done at a hardware level and not a software level --> just my 2 cents
18:39 CGI952 prefferably from koha site
18:40 CGI952 ok brendan
18:44 rhcl OK, here's a good base computer that I am requesting funds for right now...
18:44 rhcl[…]737181&cac=Result
18:44 rhcl I added the following to it:
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18:45 rhcl well, guess that didn't work...
18:46 owen Kids these days and their Koha questions.
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18:56 cait hi all
18:56 cait @wunder Konstanz
18:56 munin cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Germany is -2.3�C (7:50 PM CET on March 11, 2010). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017.2 hPa (Steady).
18:57 brendan hi cait
18:57 cait hi brendan
18:58 jwagner Guten abend, cait
18:58 cait hi jwagner
18:59 cait hi brenden
18:59 cait brendan
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19:28 jwagner @quote random
19:28 munin jwagner: Quote #15: "<|Lupin|>ricardo: you are like the Portuguese Hitchcock!!" (added by wizzyrea at 10:58 AM, July 10, 2009)
19:33 schuster drat new bug...  Self checkout - if the item is on hold and you go to renew it there is no message, but odd things happen.
19:33 schuster sco checkout that is.
19:33 brendan what happens>
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19:34 richard hi
19:34 schuster Schools report that the item is taken off the student record but there isn't a message telling them that when they click renew.
19:35 schuster on my test system though it left the item on the persons record - and says "on hold" in the renew section without renewing it.
19:35 schuster So it's half way there...
19:54 brendan ah thanks schuster...
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20:17 chris_n does anyone know if there is a way to coerce perl into telling one at what offset the file pointer is currently?
20:19 chris_n found it: tell
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20:35 wizzyrea_ very quiet in here
20:35 chris_n indeed: too quiet
20:36 * wizzyrea_ whips out her thesaurus... more synonym wars?
20:36 chris_n hehe
20:36 Genji goodmorning
20:36 joethoks_away no
20:36 * wizzyrea_ puts it away
20:36 wizzyrea_ fine
20:36 * chris_n runs away... fast
20:36 wizzyrea_ mornin genji
20:36 sekjal wizzyrea_: got my face buried in code.  regex takes a lot of attention
20:36 wizzyrea_ yes, yes it does
20:37 chris_n sekjal: me too; parsing raw drive images with perl takes lots of attention as well
20:37 wizzyrea_ omg what are you working on?!
20:38 chris_n reassembling a *very* failed hardware raid 5 array
20:38 wizzyrea_ >.<
20:38 chris_n :-P
20:38 wizzyrea_ that sucks, sorry
20:39 * chris_n descends back into the binary pit
20:39 Genji i get (rk=( su,phr="arabic text irc can't contain")) for my query, instead of something like (rk=( su,phr="\xd8\xa7\xd9\x84\xd8\xaa​\xd8\xb7\xd9\x88\xd9\x8a\xd8\xb1 \xd8\xa7\xd9\x84\xd8\xaa\xd8\x​b1\xd8\xa8\xd9\x88\xd9\x8a"))  when i try to make a getRecord statement run.. how do i go from the first type string to the second type? utf8 encode doesn't do it... utf8 decode doesnt..... what am i missing.
20:41 Sharon Who has been doing work on bugs associated with having the full 245 show (all subfields)?  Bug 3455 is related and only assigned to LL staffers
20:41 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3455 normal, P5, ---,, NEW, Full 245 needs to display in Cart and Lists
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20:54 jwagner Sharon, Bug 2771 is kind of related (but for staff side).  Neither should be too difficult to do for XSLT displays, but darn near impossible for non-XSLT (at least as far as I've found).
20:54 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2771 major, PATCH-Sent, ---,, REOPENED, 245n and 245p should show in the staff client
20:55 Sharon we use xslt, so if it gets fixed for that, i'm happy ;-)
20:56 Genji bug: On the production server, when the cataloger do a new record which contains more than one author he but the first author in field #100 , and the rest of the authors in 700 (it is a repeatable field) then save the record. Later on another  cataloger will go over new records to make sure that all the data have been entered correctly and there are nothing missing. If the other cataloger changes anything in the record and save it, the cont
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20:56 Genji anyone have an idea why?
20:56 jwagner Sharon, maybe in my mythical free time.  "All" subfields is a little broad -- how about updating the bugzilla entry with the subfields that really need to show?
20:56 Genji koha 3 rc 1
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21:02 Sharon jwagner done - 245 a h b p n
21:02 Sharon wonder if josh will appreciate getting an email about this bug in his inbox? ;-)
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21:11 Genji tonight, on, when developers go bad.....
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21:42 ricardo Hi all!  :)
21:43 ricardo Someone asked me this: does Koha have any way of creating a "Bulletin"? Mainly a list of new bibliographic records to send to patron (maybe there's some Custom Report already made by someone?)
21:44 wizzyrea_ um, you can do a search I think and get an RSS feed of it
21:44 wizzyrea_ maybe I'm not understanding what you're asking
21:46 ricardo wizzyrea_: No, that could be one way around it, yes...I think what would be nice would be a way to do searches ordered by "biblionumber" and then doing some "offset" (create 1st report with records from biblionumber =1 to biblionumber = 100... then the 2nd report would have records from biblionumber = 101 to biblionumber =200 ... or other < 200)
21:47 ricardo Am I being clear as mud?  ;-)
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21:50 ricardo More simply: is there a way of sorting search results by "biblionumber"? It seems to me that you have to create a Report for that, and I can't find an easy way to create "cut-off" points
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21:56 ricardo Oh well... I'll try to research this further sometime. Leaving now. Take care and thanks for trying to help wizzyrea_ !  :)
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22:43 brendan @weather 93117
22:43 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 16.4�C (2:38 PM PST on March 11, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1019.9 hPa (Falling).
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22:52 moodaepo @weather 56001
22:52 munin moodaepo: The current temperature in South on Monks, Mankato, Minnesota is 4.5�C (4:50 PM CST on March 11, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.43 in 996.5 hPa (Rising). Dense fog advisory in effect until 9 am CST Friday...
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23:20 ebegin I'm looking for a way to make a reserved document as Waiting...  How can we do that?
23:23 ebegin Let's say a user request a document that is on the library Shelves.  A staff member goes get it and place it on the Waiting shelves for being picked up by the user...  How does that staff tells Koha that the item is now waiting for picked up?
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