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| 00:13 |
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ebegin |
Hi all. What is the ETA for 3.2beta? |
| 00:14 |
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| 00:14 |
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chobbs |
OK, marclint is both cool and humbling :) |
| 00:17 |
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gmcharlt |
ebegin: 3.2 alpha2 by the end of th wekend |
| 00:17 |
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gmcharlt |
beta as soon as the blockers are closed |
| 00:17 |
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ebegin |
ok. Thanks. |
| 00:29 |
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| 00:38 |
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brendan |
so year one birthday and my car treats me to a flat tire :) |
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| 00:41 |
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* chris_n |
hands brendan a virtual jack |
| 00:42 |
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brendan |
and new tire please :) |
| 00:44 |
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chris_n |
maybe fix-a-flat? |
| 00:44 |
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* chris_n |
finally coerces his zebra back to work |
| 00:44 |
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brendan |
for now pumping it up with a bike pump in a few hours |
| 00:44 |
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brendan |
a nice work-out for the arms |
| 00:44 |
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brendan |
tame that zebra |
| 00:48 |
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chris |
http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]fternoon-funnies/ |
| 00:54 |
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brendan |
:) |
| 00:58 |
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gmcharlt |
atu clearly has a future as a very direct therapist |
| 01:01 |
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chobbs |
Is there a particular pastebin you all use for sharing code snippets in chat? |
| 01:03 |
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gmcharlt |
pastebot: help |
| 01:04 |
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gmcharlt |
chobbs: http://paste.workbuffer.org/ |
| 01:05 |
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chobbs |
Thanks! |
| 01:06 |
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chobbs |
Anyone know of a good way to pick out one marc record (by number) in a marc file of 90K records? I'm currently looping through all records and using a counter to locate the record of interest. It feels kinda ugly :) |
| 01:08 |
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gmcharlt |
well, that's pretty much the way to do it |
| 01:09 |
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gmcharlt |
if you need to do it repeated on the same set of records, you could load and index them, then retrieve the records of interest |
| 01:10 |
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chobbs |
Well ,the problem is that loading them isn't working, and I'm trying to figure out why :) |
| 01:10 |
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chobbs |
More accurately, loading seems to work, but indexing is breaking. |
| 01:10 |
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chobbs |
I've run marclint on the exported_records and it blows up on record 78552, so I'm trying to id what's wrong with that record. |
| 01:11 |
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gmcharlt |
is 78552 the biblionumber of the database or the sequence number of the bib in the original file? |
| 01:12 |
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chobbs |
Good question. It's the number zebra_rebuild squawked on. |
| 01:12 |
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chobbs |
Which would that be? |
| 01:13 |
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gmcharlt |
could you paste the specific squawk? |
| 01:13 |
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chobbs |
I knew you were going to ask that - it's scrolled out of my terminal buffer, so I'll need to re-run zebra_build :( |
| 01:14 |
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gmcharlt |
screen is your friend ;) |
| 01:14 |
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chobbs |
Actually, it ought to be in theirc log, since I showed it to Chris earlier - wait one. |
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| 01:15 |
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chobbs |
I'm actually in screen, but still no joy :) |
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| 01:17 |
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pastebot |
"chobbs" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "zebra_rebbuild squawk" (4 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/9 |
| 01:18 |
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chobbs |
marclint is having trouble with the record as well - looks like I'm missing a record terminator of some sort |
| 01:19 |
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gmcharlt |
what do you get when you run yaz-marcdump the_record.mrc |
| 01:19 |
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chobbs |
let me wait and see - 90,000 records :) |
| 01:20 |
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chobbs |
well, no errors |
| 01:21 |
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chobbs |
but it stopped after 21,945 titles |
| 01:22 |
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chobbs |
(assuming this is a legitimate way of counting records: grep '^245 [0-9][0-9] \$a' out.txt | wc -l ) |
| 01:22 |
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chobbs |
and it's not |
| 01:22 |
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gmcharlt |
indicator regex should be [ 0-9][ 0-9] |
| 01:23 |
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chobbs |
I have 90,589 records, which is pretty much right on |
| 01:23 |
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chobbs |
yup, figured that out :) |
| 01:23 |
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gmcharlt |
what does grep -v '^[0-9]' out.txt | grep -v '^$' show ? |
| 01:24 |
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chobbs |
90616, which is correct |
| 01:24 |
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chobbs |
actually, it might be 10 over, if memory serves |
| 01:24 |
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chobbs |
I thought I had 90,606 |
| 01:27 |
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pastebot |
"chobbs" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "OK, there are errors in there:" (10 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/10 |
| 01:28 |
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chobbs |
found the 10 extra lines :) |
| 01:28 |
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chobbs |
found the 10 extra lines :) |
| 01:29 |
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gmcharlt |
ok - less out.txt and grep for ^( will show you the bad records |
| 01:30 |
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chobbs |
got it |
| 01:30 |
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pastebot |
"chobbs" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "Bad record" (12 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/11 |
| 01:31 |
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chobbs |
So how would I go about finding the record in my source MARC file, and figure out what I did wrong while building it? I'm in the process of conversion, btw. |
| 01:32 |
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gmcharlt |
select biblionumber from biblioitems where marc like '1201666%'; |
| 01:33 |
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chobbs |
sweet |
| 01:34 |
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gmcharlt |
or if that doesn't work |
| 01:34 |
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gmcharlt |
select biblionumber from biblioitems where marc like '%Vid22005-04-1150%'; |
| 01:35 |
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chobbs |
grr. no results in either case. |
| 01:36 |
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gmcharlt |
try this |
| 01:36 |
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gmcharlt |
select biblionumber from biblioitems where marc like '%nam2208509%'; |
| 01:36 |
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gmcharlt |
and |
| 01:37 |
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gmcharlt |
select biblionumber from biblioitems where length(marc) > 99999; |
| 01:37 |
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* chobbs |
wonders if biblioitems is indexed: 43 seconds to select count(*) ? |
| 01:37 |
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gmcharlt |
select(*) is always slow in InnoDB - it's just a quirk of that storage engine |
| 01:38 |
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gmcharlt |
select count(*), even |
| 01:38 |
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chobbs |
ah, ok. :) |
| 01:38 |
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chobbs |
OK, biblionumber 78852 |
| 01:39 |
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* gmcharlt |
takes a wild guess that the lowest biblionumber is your DB is 301 |
| 01:40 |
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chobbs |
select min(biblionumber) from biblioitems; 1 |
| 01:40 |
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gmcharlt |
eh, oh well :) |
| 01:41 |
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chobbs |
select length(marc) from biblioitems where biblionumber=78852; 120239 |
| 01:41 |
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gmcharlt |
could you paste biblioitems.marcxml for that bib? |
| 01:42 |
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chobbs |
how would i get that? |
| 01:42 |
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chobbs |
ne'er mind |
| 01:43 |
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pastebot |
"chobbs" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "marcxml for 78552" (446 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/12 |
| 01:45 |
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chobbs |
that's not the right one :( |
| 01:45 |
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chobbs |
hold on |
| 01:46 |
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pastebot |
"chobbs" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "marcxml for 78552" (89 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/13 |
| 01:46 |
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chobbs |
The new one is based on this url - is this the right way to access it? http://koha:8080/cgi-bin/koha/[…]iblionumber=78552 |
| 01:47 |
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gmcharlt |
yep |
| 01:47 |
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gmcharlt |
is it biblionumber 78852 or 78552 that's the bad one? |
| 01:48 |
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chobbs |
grumble |
| 01:49 |
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chobbs |
holy crap we have a lot of those items :) |
| 01:50 |
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chobbs |
wow, an 8MB marcxml file :) |
| 01:51 |
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gmcharlt |
whee! |
| 01:51 |
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gmcharlt |
adding -x to rebuild_zebra.pl causing it to process the bibs in thier MARC XML form |
| 01:51 |
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chobbs |
Yeah, it's 200K lines long - you sure you want me to paste it, or can we assume it's just plain not going to like it :) |
| 01:51 |
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gmcharlt |
let's not kill chris' pastebot :) |
| 01:52 |
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gmcharlt |
... and that way, it would ignore the 99,999 byte limit of MARC record blob |
| 01:53 |
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gmcharlt |
but practically speaking, you'll need to duplicate that bib and spread its items around |
| 01:53 |
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chobbs |
OK, but looking at it, it seems broken. |
| 01:53 |
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chobbs |
the 952 fields seem to be run together |
| 01:53 |
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gmcharlt |
what does select count(*) from items where biblionumber = 78852 show? |
| 01:53 |
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chobbs |
695 |
| 01:54 |
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gmcharlt |
thought so |
| 01:54 |
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chobbs |
but that's way wrong |
| 01:54 |
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gmcharlt |
anyway, try rerrunning rebuild_zebra.;pl with the -x option |
| 01:54 |
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chobbs |
grep '<subfield code="p">3147' Downloads/bib-78852.marcxml | wc -l |
| 01:54 |
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chobbs |
9961 |
| 01:54 |
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chobbs |
3147 being our barcodes |
| 01:55 |
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gmcharlt |
ah - is it a magazine? |
| 01:55 |
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chobbs |
nope, some ridiculous video adapter for computers. |
| 01:55 |
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chobbs |
tempted to just drop it :) |
| 01:55 |
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gmcharlt |
indeed |
| 01:56 |
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chobbs |
although we apparently got them fairly recently (03/2005) |
| 01:56 |
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gmcharlt |
did somebody really go to the trouble of barcoding over 3,000 video adapters? |
| 01:56 |
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chobbs |
no, they barcoded 9,961! |
| 01:56 |
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chobbs |
3147 is the start of our barcode tag number |
| 01:57 |
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gmcharlt |
ah right |
| 01:57 |
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gmcharlt |
what on earth did the poor slop who did it do to get that task? ;) |
| 01:57 |
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chobbs |
that was the year before I took over, so no idea :) |
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| 01:58 |
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chobbs |
alright, I appreciate your help identifying the problem. Now to figure out what to do about it. |
| 01:58 |
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* chobbs |
shakes head. |
| 01:58 |
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chobbs |
That's like 5% of our biblioitems table :) |
| 01:58 |
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gmcharlt |
more seriously, removing that bib and items for now would make sense - you can then munge that record to split it into a few dozen copies of the bib |
| 01:59 |
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chobbs |
is that as easy as delete from biblio, biblioitem where biblionumber=78852; ? |
| 01:59 |
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chobbs |
and items, of course |
| 01:59 |
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gmcharlt |
just deleting from biblio will cascade all the way |
| 01:59 |
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chobbs |
in mysql, or through koha? |
| 01:59 |
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gmcharlt |
in mysql |
| 01:59 |
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chobbs |
wow, real relationships :) |
| 02:00 |
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gmcharlt |
are they wonderful things? |
| 02:00 |
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gmcharlt |
then rerun rebuild_zebra |
| 02:00 |
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chobbs |
indeed |
| 02:00 |
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chobbs |
wilco |
| 02:01 |
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chobbs |
and thanks to screen, I can shut down my computer and head home. Really appreciate the help! |
| 02:04 |
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gmcharlt |
you're welcome |
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| 02:07 |
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brendan |
my $dbh = C4::Context->dbh; |
| 02:07 |
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brendan |
oh man sorry wrong window :) |
| 02:07 |
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gmcharlt |
it's *my* $dbh, I tell you |
| 02:08 |
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* brendan |
hits head on wall |
| 02:08 |
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brendan |
poor wall |
| 02:18 |
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chris_n |
hehe |
| 02:18 |
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chris_n |
it's Friday eve, brendan ;) |
| 02:18 |
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brendan |
heh |
| 02:19 |
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chris_n |
but it sure looks as though you have a handle on things... especially the db |
| 02:19 |
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* brendan |
feels like my head is stuck in this loop |
| 02:19 |
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gmcharlt |
time to unroll the loop and do something else for a bit |
| 02:20 |
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brendan |
not sure all I can think about is MFHD_ITEM etc. |
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Amit_G |
heya brendan |
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brendan |
heya Amit_G |
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chobbs |
gmcharlt: Rrbuild went smoothly this time. Thanks again! |
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brendan |
success |
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Nouman |
zebra process is not running |
| 04:52 |
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Nouman |
http://pastebin.org/101498 |
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Nouman |
Ropouch r u there? |
| 05:19 |
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Nouman |
http://pastebin.org/101498 |
| 05:19 |
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Nouman |
could any body help me? |
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| 05:29 |
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Nouman |
could any body help me? |
| 05:31 |
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masonj |
Nouman: you have another zebrasrv already running, i think |
| 05:31 |
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Nouman |
Masonj: I am doing fresh installation, I have delete previous one |
| 05:31 |
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masonj |
$ killall zebrasrv |
| 05:32 |
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masonj |
$ ps -ef|grep zebrasrv |
| 05:33 |
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masonj |
make sure no other zebrasrv is running, before you start a new zebrasrv |
| 05:33 |
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Nouman |
I have applied these both |
| 05:33 |
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masonj |
'13:49:31-03/03 [fatal] Failed to bind to unix:/var/run/koha/zebradb/authoritysocket [File exists]' |
| 05:33 |
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masonj |
cool |
| 05:34 |
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masonj |
now start zebrasrv.... |
| 05:34 |
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Nouman |
o/p is http://pastebin.org/101510 |
| 05:34 |
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Nouman |
Mansonj: Im installing koha-3.00.05 on debian-lenny |
| 05:35 |
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masonj |
u didnt kill zebra |
| 05:35 |
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Nouman |
there are two options to start zebra, which one should I select |
| 05:35 |
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masonj |
# kill 3160 |
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masonj |
zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml |
| 05:36 |
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masonj |
starts zebra ;) |
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Nouman |
Masonj: http://pastebin.org/101512 |
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Amit_G |
heya Nouman |
| 05:39 |
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masonj |
# kill -9 3160 |
| 05:39 |
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masonj |
still didnt kill it :/ |
| 05:39 |
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Amit_G |
heya masonj |
| 05:39 |
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masonj |
hiya amit |
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Nouman |
Masonj: is zebra now running or not |
| 05:42 |
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Nouman |
? |
| 05:42 |
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masonj |
on your box?, i dont know :) |
| 05:43 |
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Nouman |
ps -ef|grep zebrasrv root 3429 3413 0 14:40 pts/0 00:00:00 grep zebrasrv |
| 05:43 |
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masonj |
no, its not running - on your box |
| 05:43 |
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Nouman |
I dont recognize that whether zebra is running or not o/p is here |
| 05:44 |
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Nouman |
kill -9 3160 lumhs-b70715be2:/home/nouman# ps -ef|grep zebrasrv root 3429 3413 0 14:40 pts/0 00:00:00 grep zebrasrv |
| 05:44 |
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masonj |
. |
| 05:44 |
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masonj |
koha 3160 3128 0 13:49 pts/0 00:00:00 zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml |
| 05:44 |
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Nouman |
Hey Amit |
| 05:44 |
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masonj |
. |
| 05:45 |
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masonj |
that shows that a zebrasrv process is running (id=3160) |
| 05:45 |
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masonj |
so.... start up a zebrasrv ;) |
| 05:45 |
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Nouman |
Masonj: Im not getting what is its mean? |
| 05:47 |
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masonj |
hmmm, i gotta go soon... :/ |
| 05:47 |
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Nouman |
http://pastebin.org/101516 is it runnig or not |
| 05:48 |
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Amit_G |
Nouman: not running your zebra |
| 05:48 |
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Nouman |
Amit_G: thanks. plz could u with me as I can complete installation |
| 05:48 |
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masonj |
no, its not running - on your box |
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Nouman |
ok should I give commands now |
| 05:50 |
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Amit_G |
Noumna: r u on which OS |
| 05:50 |
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Nouman |
Im installing koha-3.00.05 on debian-lenny |
| 05:50 |
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Nouman |
still show same problem http://pastebin.org/101518 |
| 05:52 |
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masonj |
stop zebra, again.... then.. |
| 05:53 |
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masonj |
EXPORT KOHA_CONF="/home/koha/koha3-prod/etc/koha-confxxxxxxx.xml"; |
| 05:53 |
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masonj |
EXPORT PERL5LIB='/home/koha/git/koha3-prodxxxxxx' |
| 05:54 |
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masonj |
$ sudo zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xm |
| 05:54 |
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masonj |
l |
| 05:54 |
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masonj |
try running zebasrv as root, not koha user |
| 05:55 |
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masonj |
now i go.... bye |
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Nouman |
he is the http://pastebin.org/101521 |
| 05:59 |
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Nouman |
zebra is running or not could any body tell me? if it is running, how can I stop it? |
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Amit_G |
Nouman: Your zebra is running |
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Amit_G |
heya davi |
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davi |
hi Amit_G |
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davi |
How is it going? |
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Nouman |
ps -ef|grep zebrasrvroot 3573 3413 0 15:10 pts/0 00:00:00 grep zebrasrv |
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Nouman |
Amit: is it stop now? if it stop then what should I go to complete the installation |
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Nouman |
I need some help regarding zebra initilization |
| 06:27 |
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Nouman |
could any one help me |
| 06:31 |
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Nouman |
nouman lumhs-b70715be2:/usr/share/koha/bin$ sudo -u $KOHA misc/bin/zebraqueue_daemon.pl sudo: no passwd entry for misc/bin/zebraqueue_daemon.pl! |
| 06:31 |
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Nouman |
I have above problem |
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Nouman |
is any body there? |
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Nouman |
.. |
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Nouman |
noumanlumhs-b70715be2:~/koha-3.00.05$ sudo -u $KOHA misc/bin/zebraqueue_daemon.pl sudo: no passwd entry for misc/bin/zebraqueue_daemon.pl! |
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Nouman |
I have above problem |
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Ropuch |
Morning #koha |
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Nouman |
Ropuch r u there? |
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Nouman |
could u help me |
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Ropuch |
Hello Nouman |
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Ropuch |
What's the problem? |
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Nouman |
Ropuch: |
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Nouman |
noumanlumhs-b70715be2:~/koha-3.00.05$ sudo -u $KOHA misc/bin/zebraqueue_daemon.pl sudo: no passwd entry for misc/bin/zebraqueue_daemon.pl! |
| 07:34 |
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Nouman |
this is the problem |
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Ropuch |
ok |
| 07:36 |
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Ropuch |
First thing: $KOHA is variable rather than value |
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Nouman |
so what should I do |
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Ropuch |
sudo -u koha misc/bin/./zebraqueue_daemon.pl |
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Nouman |
no it is not working |
| 07:39 |
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Ropuch |
What does it say? |
| 07:39 |
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Nouman |
http://pastebin.org/101550 |
| 07:40 |
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Ropuch |
You have koha up and running? |
| 07:41 |
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Nouman |
mean? Im not getting |
| 07:41 |
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Ropuch |
You installed koha? |
| 07:41 |
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Nouman |
yeah, koha-3.00.04_fixed was installed on this pc |
| 07:42 |
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Ropuch |
No, that's not what I mean |
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Ropuch |
Have you finished your 3.00.05 instaltion? |
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Nouman |
I remove it and installing |
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Nouman |
no Im still in step 5 |
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Nouman |
when I want to install |
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Nouman |
http://<servername>:8080/ |
| 07:43 |
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Nouman |
it is not installing |
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Ropuch |
You've followed all steps? |
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Nouman |
Yeah, I followed each and every step |
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Nouman |
exactly |
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Ropuch |
Ok |
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Ropuch |
mysql -u root -p |
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Ropuch |
I have an idea what could be wrong |
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Nouman |
Now Im at MYsql> |
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Ropuch |
Ok |
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Ropuch |
create database koha; |
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Nouman |
I have created already |
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Ropuch |
grant all on koha.* to 'kohaadmin'@'localhost' idetified by 'katikoan' |
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paul_p |
hello #koha |
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Ropuch |
Just add ; at the end of line |
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Ropuch |
Hello paul_p |
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Nouman |
I have done it already |
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Nouman |
when I want to run koha installer |
| 07:49 |
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Nouman |
it show http://pastebin.org/101552 |
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Ropuch |
Hm |
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Ropuch |
grep VirtualHost /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/koha |
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Nouman |
http://pastebin.org/101553 |
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Ropuch |
Hm. can you try http://121.52.186.197:8080 |
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Nouman |
yeah Im trying this |
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Nouman |
it show |
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Nouman |
Not Found The requested URL / was not found on this server. Apache/2.2.9 (Debian) Server at 10.1.2.36 Port 8080 |
| 07:56 |
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Ropuch |
http://10.1.2.36:8080 |
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Nouman |
I tried this also but it is also not working, it also show the same prolem |
| 07:57 |
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Ropuch |
It's odd |
| 07:58 |
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Ropuch |
Can you replace VirtualHost 121.52.186.197 with VirtualHost 127.0.1.1 |
| 07:59 |
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Ropuch |
In /etc/apache2/sites-available/koha |
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Nouman |
My pc is on netting |
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Ropuch |
I'm not sure I understand |
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Nouman |
actual ip outiside this system is 121.52.186.197 but on my pc it is 10.1.2.36 |
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Ropuch |
Oh |
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Ropuch |
Nevermind |
| 08:01 |
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Nouman |
through same configuration, some one have installed koha on this pc |
| 08:01 |
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Nouman |
but when I tried to remove and install again 3.00.05 it show this problem |
| 08:02 |
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Ropuch |
What koha version was installed earlier? |
| 08:02 |
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Nouman |
3.00.04_fixed |
| 08:02 |
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Ropuch |
And it was working, right? |
| 08:03 |
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Nouman |
all was right but catalgue search from my own system was not working even after completing fast index |
| 08:03 |
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Nouman |
but search from z39.50 was working |
| 08:04 |
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Ropuch |
Nouman: you're installing koha for testing,m right? The opac don't need to be accesible from outside? |
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Nouman |
No I want to deploy koha in my organization.. |
| 08:05 |
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Nouman |
opac as well as intranet search was not working even books were added. while z39.50 was workin. I have imported books via z39.50 |
| 08:07 |
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Nouman |
I replace pwd 12 instead of katikoan of mysql |
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Nouman |
is it my mistake ot it is alright. |
| 08:07 |
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Ropuch |
It's ok |
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Ropuch |
I was sure you're doing insytall for test only |
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Ropuch |
And inthat case leaving default is better idea for troubleshoting |
| 08:08 |
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Ropuch |
And avoiding troubles in general |
| 08:09 |
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Ropuch |
Actually i strongly advice you to do local koha install, test it |
| 08:09 |
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Ropuch |
And then tune it to your need |
| 08:10 |
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Ropuch |
Problem with The requested URL / was not found... is not koha-related |
| 08:12 |
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Nouman |
Yeah! I kept each and every thing by default. |
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Nouman |
What should I do now |
| 08:18 |
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Ropuch |
I'm just average koha user, not apache expert |
| 08:18 |
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Nouman |
ok |
| 08:18 |
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Ropuch |
You replace VirtualHost 121.52.186.197 with VirtualHost 10.1.2.36 |
| 08:19 |
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Ropuch |
And have koha locally untill you'll figure out how to fix apache problem |
| 08:20 |
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Nouman |
locally? Im not getting |
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Nouman |
I installed at localhost |
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Ropuch |
I mean: you can have working koha that will be anly accesible from local machnes (within 10.1.* network) |
| 08:22 |
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Ropuch |
You can add some record, configure it |
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Ropuch |
And by the time you decide it's time to go live, I'm sure you'l find the way to fix apache issues |
| 08:26 |
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Nouman |
but koha is not running |
| 08:26 |
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Nouman |
so how can I add and configure records |
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Ropuch |
Set VirtualHost to 10.1.2.36, restart apache and try http://10.1.2.36:8080 |
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Ropuch |
Hi brendan |
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brendan |
hi Ropuch |
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Nouman |
could any body help me about apache server |
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Nouman |
I have problem |
| 08:41 |
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Nouman |
when I want to run koha installer or local host at my browser it show |
| 08:41 |
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Nouman |
http://pastebin.org/101592 |
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Nouman |
plz assist me |
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Nouman |
I have some problem could any one one tell me |
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Nouman |
when I want to run koha installer or local host at my browser it show |
| 09:20 |
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Nouman |
http://pastebin.org/101592 |
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Nouman |
plz solve my issue |
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slef |
Nouman: your apache is misconfigured. Check /var/log/apache2/error.log |
| 09:27 |
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slef |
also make sure the "apache2ctl -S" output lists koha-httpd.conf |
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slef |
I'll just check whether the INSTALL.debian-lenny is correct |
| 09:29 |
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slef |
So I assume you finished step "4. Configure and start Apache". |
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Nouman |
Slef: it show File does not exist: /htdocs |
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slef |
Nouman: Could you run "grep ServerName /etc/koha-httpd.conf" please? |
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Ropuch |
Hi slef |
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Nouman |
slef: it show grep 121.52.156.200 /etc/koha-httpd.conf grep: /etc/koha-httpd.conf: No such file or directory |
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Nouman |
I need help |
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slef |
Nouman: want to give me access to your computer? |
| 09:39 |
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slef |
you can watch over my shoulder |
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slef |
(or boot me out, as you like) |
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slef |
if your connection is reasonably high-speed |
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slef |
Oh my mistake! |
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slef |
grep ServerName /etc/koha/koha-httpd.conf |
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slef |
it moved |
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slef |
retry with that command |
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slef |
hi Ropuch |
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Ropuch |
;> |
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Nouman |
slef: how can I give u acces to my computer in debian-lenny.. I dont know the way. tell me as I can give u access |
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Ropuch |
slef: Nouman seems to be behind NAT |
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slef |
Nouman: try the grep command above first |
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slef |
Ropuch: it won't stop me. |
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Ropuch |
heheh |
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slef |
Ropuch: everyone is behind NAT, even me. |
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Nouman |
I have given. it did not show any output just happen |
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Ropuch |
slef: it's just easier to explain someone to install ssh server, taht's what I meant |
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Ropuch |
;> |
| 09:44 |
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Ropuch |
Ok, bbiab |
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Nouman |
http://pastebin.org/101608 |
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slef |
Nouman: ok, I'll send you connection details in private |
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slef |
erm, that is output |
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Nouman |
ok |
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Nouman |
output... mean? |
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slef |
OK, have you visited http://lumhs-b70715be2:8080/ ? |
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Nouman |
no |
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slef |
try that - that is where your Koha is installed |
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slef |
whether or not it can hear you - different question :-/ |
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Nouman |
Im not getting what r u saying |
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Nouman |
koha was installed last time |
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slef |
Visit http://lumhs-b70715be2:8080/ and Koha may appear. |
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Nouman |
but now i removed and now trying to install koha it is now showing |
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Nouman |
When I want to put servername:8080 or localhost it show the problem |
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slef |
That is because Koha is listening at lumhs-b70715be2:8080, not servername:8080 or localhost. |
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Nouman |
I removed apache2 and installed it again but change |
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slef |
Removing apache2 will not change where Koha is listening. |
| 09:52 |
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slef |
Can you put the output of "apache2ctl -S" into pastebin, please? |
| 09:53 |
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Nouman |
http://pastebin.org/101614 |
| 09:54 |
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slef |
What happens when you visit http://lumhs-b70715be2:8080/ ? |
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Nouman |
it show networki time out |
| 09:55 |
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Nouman |
http://pastebin.org/101616 |
| 09:56 |
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Nouman |
I was accessing koha in past as http://10.1.2.36:8080 |
| 09:56 |
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Nouman |
I just removed koha and starting fresh installation |
| 09:57 |
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Nouman |
after that it show this problem |
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slef |
OK |
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slef |
Open the file /etc/koha/koha-httpd.conf |
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slef |
below each ServerName line, add |
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slef |
ServerAlias 10.1.2.36 |
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slef |
then save and exit, /etc/init.d/apache2 reload |
| 09:58 |
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slef |
then retry |
| 09:58 |
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slef |
What was happening was that Koha is only listening on an address that does not work. |
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slef |
The installer autodetected the address that does not work because your local DNS configuration is slightly broken. |
| 09:59 |
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Nouman |
http://pastebin.org/101617 |
| 09:59 |
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Nouman |
this is the already connection |
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slef |
Not enough to break most things, but enough to break autodetection. |
| 10:00 |
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slef |
OK, that is interesting. |
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Nouman |
is it right or not? |
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slef |
I think its address is http://121.52.186.197:8080/ |
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slef |
Try changing line 6 to say |
| 10:00 |
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slef |
<VirtualHost *:80> |
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slef |
and the similar line later on to say |
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Nouman |
My computer is on netting by Network administrator |
| 10:01 |
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slef |
<VirtualHost *:8080> |
| 10:01 |
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slef |
then save&exit, then /etc/init.d/apache2 reload |
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Nouman |
from my computer and network it will be accessed 10.1.2.36 while outside it will be accessed 121.52 |
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slef |
so you need to have * in the VirtualHost lines I think |
| 10:03 |
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slef |
to listen on multiple addresses |
| 10:04 |
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slef |
I think most servers don't need that, so it isn't the default |
| 10:04 |
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Nouman |
should I write this way <VirtualHost 121.52.186.197*:8080> |
| 10:06 |
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Nouman |
or <VirtualHost *:80> only |
| 10:09 |
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slef |
<VirtualHost *:80> only |
| 10:17 |
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Nouman |
slef How can I save file |
| 10:17 |
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Nouman |
I have open this via vi |
| 10:17 |
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slef |
ZZ |
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slef |
(shift-z twice) |
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Nouman |
slef: I cant do it |
| 10:24 |
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Nouman |
when I try to do vi /etc/koha/koha-httpd.conf |
| 10:24 |
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slef |
why not? |
| 10:24 |
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Nouman |
it is opening but When I want to edit there become error |
| 10:24 |
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Nouman |
editing is not happeing |
| 10:25 |
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Nouman |
gedit also open the file but it cant save |
| 10:26 |
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Nouman |
shift+z twice is not saving the file |
| 10:26 |
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Nouman |
I think it is read only file and changes could not be happeing |
| 10:31 |
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Nouman |
changes are not saving |
| 10:34 |
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slef |
yes, you maybe need to "sudo vi /etc..." |
| 10:34 |
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Nouman |
even I type to localhost it show same msg |
| 10:39 |
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Nouman |
slef: I have changed but still show message |
| 10:40 |
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slef |
what is exact message? |
| 10:41 |
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Nouman |
http://pastebin.org/101631 |
| 10:41 |
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Nouman |
on top of browser it show 404 not found |
| 10:47 |
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Nouman |
slef: r u ther? |
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slef |
back |
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slef |
ah, you mean you saved the file? |
| 11:01 |
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slef |
Did you /etc/init.d/apache2 reload ? |
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Amit_G |
heya slef |
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slef |
Amit_G: hi |
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Nouman |
slef: it show error |
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magnus |
am i overdue for a bit of lunch or does http://koha-community.org/tarb[…]ha-3-2-available/ imply that http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]ranslator;hb=HEAD is missing a script called install-code.pl? |
| 11:19 |
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Nouman |
Slef It now show another error |
| 11:19 |
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Nouman |
http://pastebin.org/101644 |
| 11:20 |
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slef |
magnus: it is in http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]7eb20ee5a7b7be130 |
| 11:20 |
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slef |
Nouman: can you try mysql -u kohaadmin -p koha with the password you gave the installer? |
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Nouman |
No I have give different password to installer and give here different |
| 11:21 |
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Nouman |
bz same password is not working |
| 11:21 |
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slef |
Nouman: if that fails, then you need to repeat step "2.2 Create the Koha database" |
| 11:25 |
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magnus |
slef: thanks, definitely time for lunch then... |
| 11:26 |
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Nouman |
Slef: I already create this but password to mysql -u kohaadmin -p is changed with the installer |
| 11:27 |
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Nouman |
so is it necessary to keep same password as I given default in Makefile.PL |
| 11:27 |
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Nouman |
while '12' in katikoan |
| 11:27 |
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Nouman |
sorry '12' in mysql |
| 11:27 |
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Nouman |
what should I do now |
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slef |
You could edit /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml to include the new password. |
| 11:32 |
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Nouman |
Slef: couple of thanks.. installation is in working. |
| 11:32 |
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Nouman |
I cant explain my feeling |
| 11:32 |
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Nouman |
Slef: lot of thanks again |
| 11:33 |
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slef |
It's OK. I do this stuff all the time for software.coop |
| 11:33 |
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slef |
usually rather quicker than 3 hours ;-) |
| 11:33 |
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slef |
but then people need to pay the co-op. |
| 11:34 |
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Nouman |
IM engaging koha since last 3 months |
| 11:34 |
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Nouman |
Actually since last 6 months |
| 11:34 |
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Ropuch |
Nouman: you should have try irc earlier ;> |
| 11:35 |
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Nouman |
Yeah offcourse |
| 11:35 |
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Nouman |
what a tremendous acheivement..... |
| 11:35 |
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Ropuch |
Glad to hear you have your Koha :) |
| 11:35 |
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Nouman |
Thanks Ropuch |
| 11:36 |
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Nouman |
one error is still there so should I skip it or fix it |
| 11:36 |
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Nouman |
http://pastebin.org/101648 |
| 11:37 |
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slef |
That looks to me like $KOHA is not set. |
| 11:37 |
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slef |
try replacing it with the name of your koha system user account |
| 11:38 |
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Nouman |
I kept every thing default so what should be my koha system user a/c |
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slef |
checking INSTALL |
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Nouamn |
mean? |
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slef |
"it's also recommended that you create a Koha system user, which you will have specified during the install process." |
| 11:42 |
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slef |
So I think it was up to you. |
| 11:43 |
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Nouamn |
Im not getting |
| 11:43 |
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Nouamn |
if i write su koha then it show kohalumhs-b70715be2:/home/nouman$ |
| 11:43 |
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Nouamn |
u mean it? |
| 11:44 |
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Nouamn |
Im not getting ur point |
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Nouamn |
Slef: r u there? |
| 11:47 |
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Nouamn |
Im in so hurry to populate web installer |
| 11:48 |
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slef |
I think that means: sudo -u koha misc/... |
| 11:51 |
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Nouamn |
it also show same message |
| 11:51 |
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Nouamn |
I tried it also several times |
| 11:56 |
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Nouamn |
Slef: r u there? |
| 11:56 |
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Nouamn |
and should I continue installation without it or first I must fix it |
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Nouamn |
Ropuch |
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Nouamn |
r u there? |
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Ropuch |
Nouamn: try |
| 12:03 |
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Ropuch |
sudo -u koha misc/bin/zebraqueue_daemon.pl & |
| 12:03 |
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Ropuch |
Hello nengard |
| 12:03 |
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nengard |
hiya |
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Nouamn |
Ropuch: its output show |
| 12:05 |
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Nouamn |
[1] 6724 |
| 12:05 |
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Nouamn |
mean it is working? should I go for installation |
| 12:06 |
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Ropuch |
ps a | grep zebra |
| 12:06 |
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Ropuch |
If ist shows line with /usr/bin/perl misc/bin/zebraqueue_daemon.pl |
| 12:06 |
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slef |
There is no way it will show the same message |
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slef |
"[1] 6724" just means it went into the background |
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slef |
ps 6724 to see its details |
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Nouamn |
it is hanged message is below |
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Nouamn |
sudo -u koha misc/bin/zebraqueue_daemon.pl & [1] 6754 noumanlumhs-b70715be2:~$ sudo: misc/bin/zebraqueue_daemon.pl: command not found |
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Nouamn |
and it is still in process |
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Nouamn |
http://pastebin.org/101654 |
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Nouamn |
is it successful or not? |
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Nouamn |
Ropuch |
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Nouamn |
?? |
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slef |
Hi. I'm stopping answering here because it's all being sent to the email list anyway. BBL. |
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Nouamn |
Slef: plz solve this problem as I can go with installation |
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Nouamn |
Ropuch: plz check it http://pastebin.org/101658 |
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Nouman |
http://pastebin.org/101658 |
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Nouman |
plz solve my problem |
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slef |
Your problem is that your database is not installed. |
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slef |
Have you run the web installer? |
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slef |
"Note: if you are running in this mode, you may wish to defer starting the |
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slef |
zebraqueue until you've run the web installer (see below)." |
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NOuman |
But database is already exist when I want to create it show already exist |
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slef |
But there is nothing in it |
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slef |
You need to run the web installer to put things in it. |
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slef |
nengard: please don't post just to agree with your boss :-( |
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nengard |
slef - he's not my boss |
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slef |
nengard: I thought you worked for both biblibre and bywater? |
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nengard |
i'm an independant contractor who works for several companies and several libraries and several individuals |
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nengard |
my primary company is bywater |
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nengard |
and so my boss is brendan |
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nengard |
and yes bywater has a deal with biblibre and i do work for them |
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nengard |
and bywater has a contract with equinox and i do work for them |
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nengard |
and bywater has a contract with ptfs and i do work for them |
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slef |
but you have no contract with software.coop, so I'm unhappy you take sides without making your affiliation(s) clear. |
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Ropuch |
:) |
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nengard |
i'm not taking any sides |
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nengard |
that is my own opinion |
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nengard |
i enjoy seeing which companies are doing what with which libraries |
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nengard |
am i not allowed to have my own opinion because i work for a company? |
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slef |
You are allowed to have an opinion, but I think it is naughty to +1 someone you have a commercial relationship with when that isn't obvious to the most causal observer. |
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nengard |
oh please!!! |
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slef |
Why does seeing which companies are doing what with which libraries mean that it should be reposted to koha-community.org and not simply linked? |
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slef |
I don't see that at all. |
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slef |
I also don't understand why I'm locked out of koha-community.org, but I want time to try to regain access and/or talk to wizzyrea before getting too upset with that. |
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slef |
(In case anyone else can look: I got "ERROR: Incorrect password" and I've tried the "Lost your password" but it hasn't arrived.) |
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nengard |
just cause you don't agree doesn't mean you can just assume we all have anterior motives - promoting that libraries are switching to Koha is necessary to further the popularity of Koha - and if that means having the library linked to a vendor so be it - i read these releases way before i worked for any support vendor and i know many libraries that do - it's koha news as much as it's vendor news |
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nengard |
and on that note i'm going to stop this discussion cause i've had one hell of a week and i'm not in the mood to fight with anyone else |
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gmcharlt |
slef: I'll reset your password and pm you |
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slef |
gmcharlt: thanks. |
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slef |
On the context: I think nengard has a clear conflict of interest as several of us do, but new readers would not know that. |
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slef |
On the substance: I think that company X has persuaded company Y to sign a contract for koha is more often news about how persuasive the vendor sales team is and does not say much about koha. |
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slef |
I'm a bit unhappy if koha-community.org becomes simply like koha.org but shared between more companies than liblime. |
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gmcharlt |
thought the PRs do give users one piece of information when they're evaluating vendors - customers of that vendor who have not necessarily been vetted by the future as "good references" |
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davi |
They can evaluate vendors by other methods |
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gmcharlt |
doesn't mean that any possible source of information should be removed |
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slef |
How would a link to the announcement on a company site not acheive the same? |
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gmcharlt |
slef: I apologize - WP-MU is fighting with me on getting your password reset - I'm sure wizzyrea will help once she's online |
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gmcharlt |
also, it's possible the email got caught up in a spam filter |
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slef |
gmcharlt: thanks for trying. |
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Nate |
slef: this is Nate from ByWater... |
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slef |
Yes, I keep strumming the mailbox to make sure, but it's coming into one that I don't control 100%. |
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Nate |
we in no way intend our prs to be proclimations of who we sign |
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Nate |
we dont say X signed Y |
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Nate |
we say Y is using X to get Koha |
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Nate |
we title the release that way to avoid that |
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Nate |
if it is taken another way we apologise |
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davi |
Just say "Y is using Koha" |
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davi |
if you want |
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slef |
Point remains - if it has "is using X" then it should be on your site and linked, not reposted. |
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Nate |
until the community has decided which way to post releases we will hold them |
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Nate |
we will wait for the community at large to decide which semantics are appropriate adn proceed from theere |
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Nate |
we in no way intend on making this a big issue, and will do whatever we all decide is appropriate |
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Nate |
ByWater does not look at teh community site as a way to promote our company. |
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slef |
ok, but I'm not convinced that neutral point of view will prevail because I think most of koha-community are still vendor-linked, so it may need some very persuasive brass-necked people :-/ |
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Nate |
If the community decides that it is appropriate to use it as such an outlet, we will graciously accept, otherwise we will refrain |
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slef |
Nate: on a related note, do you have a social media policy for your workers? |
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Nate |
I can get back to you on that |
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slef |
ok, np |
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slef |
Mainly I wondered if you always have a sig like Brendan's if it's on company time, or if that is only the directors. |
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slef |
no worries |
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slef |
munin: do you ever tell people the later messages? |
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munin |
slef: Error: "do" is not a valid command. |
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slef |
munin: hello |
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munin |
slef: Error: "hello" is not a valid command. |
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slef |
hmm |
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jdavidb |
Mornin'. owen. |
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owen |
Hi |
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jwagner |
Hi owen. |
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slef |
hi owen - I think I'm having interesting times again :-/ |
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owen |
Victim of a Chinese curse? |
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slef |
seem to be |
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slef |
gmcharlt: I think http://koha-community.org/ knows that I want to try to change its title to something like "Koha Library Software Community" and that is why it is resisting - it's gone Artificially Intelligent ;-) |
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gmcharlt |
aye, the problem of the days - turn your back for a second, and your software starts racing towards the Singularity |
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slef |
(we call Koha an LMS more than an ILS, and we call it free software not open source) |
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slef |
gmcharlt: in 12 minutes time, it will invent Skynet. |
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slef |
biab |
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chris_n |
well, the scroll back buffer is hot this morning ;-) |
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adegroff |
happy Friday all |
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jwagner |
@wunder 20740 |
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jwagner: The current temperature in Hollywood, College Park, Maryland is 3.8�C (9:04 AM EST on March 05, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Windchill: 1.0�C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1016.8 hPa (Rising). |
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jwagner |
@quote random |
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munin |
jwagner: Quote #47: "pianohacker bah, go collision attack the front of a moving car" (added by brendan at 05:15 PM, November 16, 2009) |
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magnus |
ouch |
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jdavidb |
@quote random |
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munin |
jdavidb: Quote #52: "<wizzyrea> Ahh, it's like putting on your slippers" (added by gmcharlt at 03:50 PM, January 28, 2010) |
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@wunder 28334 |
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chris_n |
does the catalog search in the staff interface not rank results by relevancy? |
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chris_n |
or rather |
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chris_n |
it says it does, but does not appear to? |
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CGI149 |
hello |
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owen |
chris_n: A bug was filed recently about search results being different in the staff client |
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magnus |
chris_n: i get the results in the same order both in opac and staff (running HEAD) |
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owen |
I wonder if it's the same issue |
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magnus |
bug 4116 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4116 critical, P5, ---, henridamienkoha-fr.org, ASSIGNED, results from cataloging search is different from advanced search results |
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owen |
Oh, no, I guess that's different. |
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owen |
Cataloging search has always been different than regular search |
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chris_n |
it appears that if I search for "An Exact Title" and I have an item by that title, it appears near the bottom of the list rather than the top |
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owen |
title or keyword search? |
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chris_n |
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2j0edl5&s=6 |
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chris_n |
keyword |
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chris_n |
but it still should rank at the top |
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chris_n |
I'd think |
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chris_n |
http://i45.tinypic.com/2j0edl5.jpg # less clutter |
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chris_n |
owen: same ranking search both by title and keyword |
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owen |
I get a similar result, which I can't even explain by pointing to additional keyword hits in subject or notes fields |
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* chris_n |
wonders if the ranking algorithm is sorting backwards |
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chris_n |
try a title search |
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chris_n |
of course, if it is like most "problems," I'm simply missing the obvious ;) |
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owen |
What do you mean? |
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chris_n |
owen: the problem I'm seeing occurs when searching by title as well |
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chris_n |
hence, my thought that maybe the sorting is backwards (ie. from least relevant to most relevant) |
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wizzyrea |
slef: it won't become like koha.org if I can avoid it |
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chris_n |
can anyone else running 3.01.00.120 or greater confirm the problem with relevance ranking? |
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chris_n |
g'morning wizzyrea |
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wizzyrea |
morning koha peeps |
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chris_n |
how's the battle with the docbook format going? |
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slef |
wizzyrea: yo! Any idea what's with the password resetter? I'll go check my mailbox again. |
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wizzyrea |
I can't put any SPF records for the domain on until the DNS situation is resolved :( |
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wizzyrea |
so it's likely getting flagged/dumped as spam |
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slef |
I'm pretty sure we don't use SPF, which is broken by design. |
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wizzyrea |
oh, and there's no reverse DNS |
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wizzyrea |
yet |
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wizzyrea |
which is probably the more problematic situation of the two |
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slef |
That's more likely a problem, yes. |
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owen |
chris_n: http://screencast.com/t/MTcwYTZm |
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owen |
chris_n: And the title search: http://screencast.com/t/NzBlMjQ3NTA |
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chris_n |
hmm |
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chris_n |
it appears to be an issue with the one title I mentioned |
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chris_n |
other titles appear to sort correctly |
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* chris_n |
scratches his head |
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slef |
Do I need to ask on the mailing list or at a community meeting about fixing the koha-community.org site name? |
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slef |
Or how best to approach it? |
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wizzyrea |
what do you want it to be? |
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slef |
I was trying to come up with a globally-acceptable one... my best so far is "Koha Library Software Community" |
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owen |
I think it needs a discussion and a vote. |
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slef |
If it gets taken to a first-past-the-post vote, the US view will simply outnumber all. |
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wizzyrea |
well I actually like your suggestion, fwiw |
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wizzyrea |
not a great deal of brain cycles went into the current title |
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wizzyrea |
great number* |
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slef |
Well, I'll email it and we'll see, but I expect some flaming because we're unhappy about "open source" and "ILS" again. |
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slef |
as in "there's nothing wrong with open source" which isn't a discussion I enjoy having, as someone who was involved with the Open Source Initiative before it failed ;-) |
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slef |
having one's nose rubbed in one's mess is never fun |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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wizzyrea |
my thought is: it's so new, if we change it... no one will care. |
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wizzyrea |
the software is Koha, we are it's community |
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wizzyrea |
we can say it's free software and and ILS somewhere else |
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* wizzyrea |
is a beg forgiveness rather than ask permission type |
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collum |
I like your suggestion, as well. I think the terms "open source" and "ILS" will eventually become dated. |
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slef |
let me post a "does anyone mind..." sort of thing then |
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wizzyrea |
there was literally no thought involved in titling the page |
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gmcharlt |
+1 "Koha Library Software Community" |
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wizzyrea |
nah I say don't even ask we'll just change it and ask forgiveness |
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wizzyrea |
if someone complains |
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wizzyrea |
(which I don't anticipate) |
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* owen |
will not complain |
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gmcharlt |
+1 to just making that change |
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wizzyrea |
done and done |
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tomascohen |
hi, is there a consensus between koha devs |
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tomascohen |
on how to deal with XML within the project? |
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tomascohen |
I've made some examples for patron import |
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tomascohen |
using XML::Simple |
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tomascohen |
and, before integrating it to koha, i'd like to ask |
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tomascohen |
perhaps XML::SAX is more suitable for large data sets |
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tomascohen |
ideas? thoughts? |
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gmcharlt |
Koha uses XML::Simple in several places, but I have a slight allergy to it |
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owen |
wizzyrea: Did you see the unapi example I msged you the other day? |
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tomascohen |
nope |
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tomascohen |
wizzyrea: no |
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wizzyrea |
yes I did |
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wizzyrea |
tomascohen: ? |
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tomascohen |
gmcharlt: You prefer not to use a DOM based lib? |
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tomascohen |
wizzyrea: sory, it was a mistake, not a good IRC user yet |
| 15:18 |
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wizzyrea |
oh ;) np np |
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wizzyrea |
tomascohen: we were talking about things that were ever so slightly controversial earlier, I thought you might be voicing an opinion ^.^ |
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gmcharlt |
tomascohen: didn't say that - it's more that XML::Simple can sometimes need an undue amount of fiddling to produce a consistent data structure that doesn't break on certain legal variations in the input |
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gmcharlt |
XML::LibXML or XML::SAX I think would be better for heavy-duty parsing |
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gmcharlt |
and I think it would be worth trying XML::Twig |
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tomascohen |
gmcharlt: as we provide a example csv, I plan to provide a proper xsd for checking xml consistency and help other apps devs to test their output |
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magnus |
wizzyrea: http://koha-community.org/hello-world/ still says "open source" and "ils"... |
| 15:25 |
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wizzyrea |
um... yes, it does |
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gmcharlt |
and now it doesn't |
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magnus |
great! |
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tomascohen |
wizzyrea: anything that contributes to integrate the community efforts will have my support |
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tomascohen |
that was our goal when creating the spanish-speaking koha community |
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magnus is now known as magnus_away |
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paul_p |
hi world |
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moodaepo |
@wunder 56001 |
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moodaepo: The current temperature in South on Monks, Mankato, Minnesota is -0.6�C (9:36 AM CST on March 05, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Windchill: -5.0�C. Pressure: 30.26 in 1024.6 hPa (Falling). |
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paul_p |
does anyone know how you could configure mysql to avoid a sql query taking all ressources ? |
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moodaepo |
paul_p: maybe by user is the only option? |
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paul_p |
what i'm looking for is avoiding a mySQL crash if someone does something silly like "SELECT * FROM biblio JOIN items" in the SQL reports |
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paul_p |
atm, if you do that, mysql builds a result set that is biblio*items large. |
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paul_p |
on a 180 000items DB, that means consume more than 8GB of data, and kill the myslq |
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paul_p |
(tested yesterday :\ ) |
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wizzyrea |
oh my |
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moodaepo |
I'd look into setting a decent query timeout (?) |
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wizzyrea |
http://www.google.com/#q=koha&hl=en&fp=1 |
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wizzyrea |
is it #2 for anyone else? |
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wizzyrea |
(the title hasn't been spidered yet, don't freak) |
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paul_p |
wizzyrea: nop, for me it's the last entry of page 1 |
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gmcharlt |
#9 for me |
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moodaepo |
wizzyrea: seems to be #4 for me on that link. |
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wizzyrea |
how weird |
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owen |
#7 for me |
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moodaepo |
we are talking about koha-community right? |
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wizzyrea |
yea |
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wizzyrea |
signed into google? |
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wizzyrea |
or no? |
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wizzyrea |
(maybe it's some magic of weighting searches based on your history) |
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paul_p |
signed, it's 1st, as I "upped" it. |
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* moodaepo |
heh koha hockey is #2 |
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* owen |
is happy to see my Koha blog beating liblime.com in that list :P |
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paul_p |
unsigned, it's last entry of page 1 |
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moodaepo |
paul_p: max_execution_time and memory_limit might be something to check for you |
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wizzyrea |
unsigned in on mine it's #2 |
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paul_p |
owen: for me, you blog isn't on page 1 (sorry for that) |
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gmcharlt |
#9 if I do it via lynx and reject Google's cookies |
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moodaepo |
unsigned in #5 |
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wizzyrea |
welp... so we can say "on the first page" |
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gmcharlt |
seems like it |
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wizzyrea |
I was excited about it showing up #2, now I'm not as excited |
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wizzyrea |
will give the spider a few more days to work... going to check to make sure our links are pointing to the right thing |
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chris_n |
#7 here also |
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paul_p |
moodaepo: /me blind, but can't find "max_execution_time" on mysql doc |
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moodaepo |
paul_p: I just had google mention that to me so it could be an older setting |
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moodaepo |
sql_select_limit then (?) > http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refma[…]em-variables.html |
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* owen |
thinks Google is good at showing me what I want to see |
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wizzyrea |
owen: isn't it crazy that they know you so well. Scary. |
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moodaepo |
wizzyrea++ omniscient_google+-?! |
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schuster |
so did my eyes deceive me or did I see that 3.2.beta may be out next week? |
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paul_p |
moodaepo++ |
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tomascohen |
gmcharlt: XML::Twig looks great, I like $twig->purge; |
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tomascohen |
Do u think i'd be ok to put XML::Twig as a dependency? |
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gmcharlt |
not for 3.2, I think, but should be fine for 3.4 |
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gmcharlt |
but I'd see great potential for moving more XML processing over to XML::Twig in 3.4 |
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CGI833 |
hi |
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schuster |
;) |
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CGI833 |
does anyone one |
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CGI833 |
know if it is possible to insert cartography in to koha ? |
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slef |
definitely possible |
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slef |
wizzyrea: can we install a table sorter plugin on koha-community.org please? thd suggested it yonks ago and I think I researched it around the time the new site launched. Let me know if I should dig up links. |
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wizzyrea |
we have tables to sort? lol |
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wizzyrea |
j/k, I'll look :) |
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owen |
slef: do you mean for the vendor list? |
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wizzyrea |
actually, I suppose it would be good to know what we need it for |
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slef |
yes |
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wizzyrea |
what if we did something different than table sorting |
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wizzyrea |
can you give me a couple of days to think about the ultimate goal of the support company pages? |
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owen |
Links to different views perhaps? |
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wizzyrea |
I'm thining that a post category + tags would be a better way to handle it |
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slef |
wizzyrea: I think thd-away did a long analysis when new.koha.org launched |
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wizzyrea |
(excluding the cat from the main timeline, of course) |
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wizzyrea |
I will look back through the list for his comments |
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* wizzyrea |
can see a way it could work in her mind |
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slef |
I'll take a look for it in a mo |
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wizzyrea |
okies |
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* wizzyrea |
is also working on a quite huge other project today, and is grateful for help :) |
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slef |
me too |
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chobbs |
Conversion question: what's the appropriate value to put in 952_q to reflect that an item is checked out? |
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chobbs |
Or will that become populated when I import into 'issues'? |
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slef |
chobbs: it should be the due date, I think. |
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slef |
http://koha.org/documentation/[…]ds-data-migration |
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slef |
I'm not sure what "Display only field" means there. |
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chobbs |
That's what I thought, but it isn't showing them checked out. That may be because I 've not yet imported into the issues table yet - I've only imported MARC records (with 952 fields attached). |
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chobbs |
Guess I'll work on loading the issues and see if that clears it up. |
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gmcharlt |
chobbs: you'll need to both load issues and set the 952$q value to the yyyy-mm-dd due date |
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gmcharlt |
you can do the latter by using sql item update items.onloan, then running the sync_items_in_marc.pl script |
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chobbs |
good deal, thanks for the info. at least I know I have the 952$q qorking correctly in my conversion script. |
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chobbs |
cool! |
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slef |
wizzyrea: http://old.nabble.com/-Koha-an[…]14.html#a23447686 |
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wizzyrea |
sweet ty |
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wizzyrea |
i've already stated that the demos should be handled differently... I'm curious about this map bit, that would be neat to include, and I think the cat/tags would clear up the support company page organization |
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wizzyrea |
localization is another issue, but patience will be required there as I'm new to WP+localization (perfectly happy and willing to learn though) |
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wizzyrea |
as it stands, I'll link to koha-fr.org |
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wizzyrea |
which needs to be done anyway |
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slef |
I don't really see how cat/tags will clear up the support company page organization because there would still be a sort order, wouldn't there? |
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wizzyrea |
mm not necessarily |
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wizzyrea |
every vendor has a post, every post has multiple tags |
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wizzyrea |
click the tags, you get only things relative to that |
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wizzyrea |
so list just the tags, only see the relevant posts |
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wizzyrea |
seewhatimean? |
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wizzyrea |
no sort |
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wizzyrea |
only tags |
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slef |
so we still have someone always top and someone always last? |
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wizzyrea |
I suppose within tags |
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wizzyrea |
but you would have a lot fewer within each tag listing |
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slef |
I think what will happen is the seller listed last on the "view all" would still be last on each tag. |
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cm |
greetings! has anyone here tinkered with facets? I've added the collection code to mine, but I can't figure out how to get it to display the description instead of the code. |
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wizzyrea |
I can look into randomizing the order of posts, dk what else to tell you |
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slef |
I think there are basically two good solutions: random and user-sortable. |
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slef |
I tend to think that user-sortable table and trim down the info on the community site as much as possible (almost all vendors have their own sites anyway) is the better of the two, but if you don't want me to code it, I don't mind it being something else. |
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wizzyrea |
if you have the time and the desire to code it, we can leave that as an option |
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* wizzyrea |
has something tickling her mind about a plugin that handles this kind of thing... |
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slef |
I think I looked up one plugin... I can make a table sortable with javascript, but I can't randomise the starting order or handle non-JS browsers without a plugin IIRC. |
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wizzyrea |
slef: can you give me a few days to think about the vendor page problem? I have a couple of thoughts and I'd rather not go all balls out crazy until I have a chance to think about it a little more :) |
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slef |
wizzyrea: sure. |
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slef |
wizzyrea: I think you have 85% of the info I have on it now. |
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wizzyrea |
okies cool beans |
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slef |
wizzyrea: but I have no idea what I'm doing tomorrow, so if I don't do this now, I'll probably not get time for a week! |
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CGI306 |
hello.. Can anyone tell me How can I find a last borrower of deleted item book |
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CGI306 |
hello.. Can anyone tell me How can I find a last borrower of deleted item book |
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jdavidb |
If you still know the barcode, it should be in the statistics log, as an "issue" transaction. |
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brendan |
looking the old_issues tables |
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brendan |
whoops -- misread the questions :) |
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CGI306 |
yes but item no is not present in old |
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CGI306 |
issues tabe |
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CGI306 |
I have barcode |
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CGI306 |
and I want to know the person who had that book last |
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CGI306 |
From Barcode I got Item number from DeletedItems table |
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jdavidb |
The item number and borrowernumber would be in the statistics table. |
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brendan |
if the item was checked out before and returned -- I'm sure that it should appear in the old_issues |
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CGI306 |
yes it is appearing but Item number is missing |
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brendan |
ahhhh |
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CGI306 |
Let me check the statistic table |
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brendan |
make sense |
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brendan |
hi jdavidb :) |
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brendan |
good day to you |
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jdavidb |
Howdy, brendan! :D you too. |
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wizzyrea |
slef: still around? |
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CGI306 |
Can I have Same Item number for different ItemType? |
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CGI306 |
because I am getting the results from statistics table but there are so many records for that.. and none of that have a borrowernumber that I am looking for |
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jdavidb |
W?HERE type = "issue" SORT BY datetime DESC might be useful |
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CGI306 |
hey guys thanks a lot.. I got the result that I want.. |
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* jdavidb |
has done his good deed for the day, can safely revert to grumpy-mode. |
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chris |
:) |
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jdavidb |
Howdy, chris. :) |
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chris |
craft2.0 today |
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chris |
http://craft2.org/ |
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chris |
laurel is selling her tshirts there, so im on kid duty |
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jdavidb |
ooooo... |
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slef |
wizzyrea: yes |
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slef |
oic |
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* owen |
wonders how the Koha-list poster could be connecting to his virtual machine via ssh but not be able to SFTP |
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owen |
Aren't they the same protocol? |
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wizzyrea |
he could probablty scp |
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gmcharlt |
owen: same protocol, but it is possible to have a server accept ssh login but not sftp |
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slef |
and the other way around |
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slef |
the ssh connection starts up and then there is a subsystem requested |
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CGI833 |
not the same protocol, sftp is an extension of ssh |
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CGI833 |
will someone be kind enough to indicate in what way can I associate an image with a new record? |
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CGI833 |
I can't seem to find any field that allows image upload in the new record interface :P |
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owen |
There isn't. |
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owen |
What kind of image do you want to add? |
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CGI833 |
regular jpeg ou png... actually a map. the image format would be irrelevant |
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owen |
There's always the 856 tag, you could put in the URL to the location on your server where the image was stored |
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CGI833 |
thanks for the reply :) but the client wants images to be displayed along with the reference info.. since it intends to use it to catalog cartography. So I guess I'll have to search for a new system |
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owen |
It sounds like you want a digital library rather than a library catalog |
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CGI833 |
well.. the client wants a ILMS that has images ... you know clients... they can't understand why though they can see the sun, they can't reach it :P |
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CGI833 |
thanks for the help :) |
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chris_n |
CGI833: there is some image storage functionality in Koha |
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chris_n |
but not inside marc records |
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chris_n |
we store images for patrons |
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CGI833 |
I've read in the manual |
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chris_n |
and also images for patron cards |
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CGI833 |
yes |
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CGI833 |
but I needed it to be associated with a record |
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chris_n |
the short is this: it might not be hard to take that and do some additional coding to do what you want |
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chris_n |
the db could get quite big, however |
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CGI833 |
that woud not be an issue though I truelly would rather not to have the images in the database. If I where to code it, I'd place it somewhere on the web server. they're as public as it gets anyway |
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CGI833 |
problem is the system is cgi. and i'd have to learn it |
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CGI833 |
well.. perl |
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chobbs |
Here's a UI question: in our current ILS, when a patron card is scanned whiel checking out the prior patron, it loads the new patron and you can immediately scan items. How tough would it bne top get similar functionality in Koha? |
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* chobbs |
marvels at his typing... |
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chobbs |
I'm envisioning somethink javascripty that matches a regex for our patron barcodes and submits the proper form if it sees one. |
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gmcharlt |
would be easy to do it exactly like that |
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chobbs |
So when can I get a copy of it ;-) |
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gmcharlt |
can you program in javascripty? ;) |
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chobbs |
Not so much... not to say I couldn't learn (just) enough to figure this one out. |
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chobbs |
Assuming I got something hacked toegther, how easy is it to extend Koha so that I could enter the regex through system adminsitration |
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gmcharlt |
fairly straightforward, though a bit fiddling |
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chobbs |
iow, to make something portable enough for others to use |
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gmcharlt |
in the simplest case, you'd make a system preference |
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gmcharlt |
however, since a number of Koha users run multiple libraries in a single database |
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chobbs |
yikes, I see where that leasds :) |
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gmcharlt |
yeah ... |
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gmcharlt |
but if you want to get your feet wet, doing it as a global system preference would be a good start |
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chobbs |
But in theory, I could use a system preference for the regex and somehow incorporate the info from that into a js script and I'm off and running |
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chobbs |
Cool, somethign to do this weekend then :) |
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brendan |
wow I don't have a clue what you said or asked up their chobbs |
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chobbs |
btw, did get my issues imported and it looks pretty good. The only oddity is that OPAC shows all items checked out in the search, but the detail for a biblio looks right |
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chobbs |
brendan: imagine a librarian checking out student after student (we're at a school). The way koha works now, they have to mouse to the patron field to process the next kid. What I'm sugegsting is that the item field would have a script attached that recognizes patron cards and lets them scan right into the book field. |
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chobbs |
So instead of scan card, scan book, scan book, click in patron field, scan card, scan book - instead they scann card, scan book, scan book, scan card, scan book, scan card, scan book, scan book, etc... |
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chobbs |
would elimiate a lot of mousing and clicking |
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* chobbs |
still marvels at his typing. Must be Friday. |
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brendan |
that's how I use the system though? |
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brendan |
i.e you wand the patron card number into checkout spot -- it loads the new borrower... right? |
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chobbs |
only if the cursor is in the top field on the page. Once that happens, the focus moves to the item field and you have to click back to the top field to wand the next patron. |
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chobbs |
my sugegstion allows you to wand the patron card into the item box and it would automatically load the next patron. Right now you get a "The barcode was not found" error if you try that. |
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brendan |
right... |
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gmcharlt |
one barcode input field to find them ... |
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* brendan |
was thinking wrong box.... |
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chobbs |
no worries - it's a bit visual to describe in irc :) |
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brendan |
:) |
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brendan |
I think we are on the same page now |
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chobbs |
now i just need to write it :) |
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brendan |
yup would be a nice improvement and greatly appreciated |
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chobbs |
gmcharlt: any idea why opac would be showing all items checked out? See here for ex: http://koha.nhusd.k12.ca.us/cg[…]orcerer%27s+stone |
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brendan |
gmcharlt - RE: wiki - how much of the old info are you looking to bring over? or just assign someone to be responsible for porting a page/section on old wiki --> to new_update_awesome_koha_community wiki... |
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gmcharlt |
chobbs: you may need to reindex |
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chobbs |
i'll give that a shot |
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chobbs |
at least it won't blow up with my thousands of adapters again :) |
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gmcharlt |
brendan: I'm neutral on that question, really |
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brendan |
yeah it seems that parts are useful and others... I could care less about |
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gmcharlt |
I'm happy to bring over old content if we can get a recentish dump |
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gmcharlt |
or reconstruct it from the various crawls that people have been making |
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gmcharlt |
but there's a lot to be said for start with a blank slate and just manually copying over the good bits |
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gmcharlt |
and of course, the answer to that question may well be different for en vs ua vs es vs fr, etc. |
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brendan |
yup, that's the big key there |
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chobbs |
Is there any magic for creating authority records from MARC records? This is one area I've not spent much time looking at yet. |
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SelfishMan |
ha, perfect timing since I was about to ask the same thing |
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chobbs |
I'm wondering if I need to build the authority marc file separately as my conversion script loops through my bibliio marcs. |
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chobbs |
I don't have any real idea what I'm talking about tho :) |
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* chobbs |
isn't exactly sure what an authority record actually is |
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