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Genji |
anyone going to respond to liblime and ptfs falling out? |
00:18 |
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chris |
respond how? |
00:19 |
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Genji |
unsure. no ones discussed it. |
00:20 |
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* gmcharlt |
strokes beard, says "It's all very interesting" |
00:20 |
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Genji |
its like no ones taken note of it. |
00:20 |
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gmcharlt |
Genji: there was some chatter on #koha, a small blizzard of tweets, a Library Journal article, and so forth |
00:20 |
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gmcharlt |
however ... |
00:21 |
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gmcharlt |
ultimately the truth of whatever happened is likely to be known only by the companies involved |
00:21 |
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chris |
yeah, it doesnt really concern us so much, its more for liblime clients |
00:21 |
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Genji |
how does this affect our bid of getting koha.org under community control? |
00:21 |
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chris |
its at the same place it was before, totally unknown |
00:22 |
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chris |
my current plan is let liblime and its customers sort themselves out, and lets just get back to working on koha |
00:24 |
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Genji |
and as for koha publicity driving traffic to liblime instead of koha-community? |
00:24 |
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gmcharlt |
Genji: that's a game for the long haul - whichever site is actually more useful for ordinary Koha users will get the Google juice |
00:24 |
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chris |
point people to koha-community when they ask |
00:24 |
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chris |
thats about all we can do |
00:24 |
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Genji |
Welcome to koha.org! � Koha - Open Source ILS - Integrated Library ... |
00:24 |
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Genji |
An open source library system for public libraries which includes catalog searches and member organizing. |
00:24 |
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Genji |
www.koha.org/ |
00:25 |
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Genji |
and fourth down... |
00:25 |
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Genji |
Koha Open Source ILS |
00:25 |
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Genji |
2 Feb 2010 ... Staff Interface Demo site for the Staff interface of the Koha ILS. Username = bywater Password = bywater. Miss a post? ... |
00:25 |
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Genji |
koha-community.org/ |
00:25 |
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Genji |
eh.... needs some Search optimization... |
00:25 |
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chris |
4th after only 2 weeks |
00:25 |
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chris |
doesnt seem bad to me |
00:26 |
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gmcharlt |
Genji: what search did you do, exactly? |
00:26 |
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Genji |
oh.. i searched for 'koha ils', btw. |
00:27 |
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braedon|work |
third page for "koha" |
00:27 |
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Genji |
ranks 1 through to 3 are liblime sites. |
00:27 |
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chris |
yeah, not too worried |
00:27 |
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chris |
like galen said, put up useful content and it will move up the rankings |
00:28 |
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Genji |
koha library .... our old savannah site pops up before any koha-community site. |
00:29 |
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chris |
well its about 6 years older, so bound to be more links to it :) |
00:32 |
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Genji |
7th down, bywater gets a mention in 'koha library' .. its the first koha-community related link un liblime related. |
00:33 |
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gmcharlt |
Genji: yeah, need to ask wizzyrea to fix that so that koha-community.org ends up with a better summary in Google search results |
00:34 |
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Genji |
for 'open source ils' second page, four down it, the first koha-community link. first one was Evergreen, and when koha was mentioned, it was liblime site. |
00:35 |
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Genji |
so..... yes, some optimization might be good... |
00:41 |
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gmcharlt |
chris: please give my compliments to Will. I've pushed his patches |
00:41 |
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chris |
will do :) |
00:42 |
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brendan |
@wunder 93117 |
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munin |
brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 19.5�C (4:40 PM PST on February 14, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015.1 hPa (Falling). |
00:43 |
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brendan |
wow was hot today |
00:43 |
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brendan |
:) |
00:43 |
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chris |
@wunder wellington nz |
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munin |
chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 19.0�C (1:00 PM NZDT on February 15, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
00:43 |
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chris |
yep, beating me |
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@wunder tauranga nz |
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braedon|work: The current temperature in Tauranga Aerodrome Aws, New Zealand is 23.0�C (1:00 PM NZDT on February 15, 2010). Conditions: . Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1015 hPa (Rising). |
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Jo |
hola |
01:54 |
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Jo |
Chris / Russ : either of you about? |
01:55 |
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Jo |
I have to make the first payment for the kohacon venue today and $ are about to become an issue ... |
01:55 |
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Jo |
any idea how long we will need to bankroll KohaCon? ( afew days / weeks is fine) |
01:57 |
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russ |
?? |
01:57 |
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russ |
bankroll as in pay for? |
01:57 |
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russ |
or bankroll as in hold the account? |
01:58 |
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chris |
ill talk to biblibre tonight and see if they can hit the paypal button |
01:58 |
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chris |
we just need to pay a quarter at this stage eh? |
01:59 |
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chris |
how much is it jo? |
01:59 |
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* russ |
obviously misread |
02:00 |
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Jo |
$1046 |
02:00 |
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Jo |
bankroll as in pay |
02:00 |
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chris |
cool, i think with the biblibre amount plus what libriotech donated, we should have that |
02:01 |
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chris |
ill talk to them tonight |
02:01 |
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Jo |
very good. I will pay by cheque and can cover it in the interim |
02:01 |
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chris |
thank you |
02:01 |
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russ |
thanks jo |
02:01 |
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Jo |
Next payment not until 25 Sept so plenty of time |
02:01 |
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chris |
*nod* |
02:03 |
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russ |
we will be a lot more organised by then :-) |
02:06 |
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Jo |
its good mate - just need to know we can cover it from donations |
02:08 |
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russ |
that reminds me - i need chris to proof something before irc meeting tomorrow |
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* chris_n |
finds www.openstreetmap.org |
03:24 |
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Jo |
Brendan: Thanks buddy for the donation to KohaCon 2010 ( we are now solvent :) |
03:24 |
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brendan |
:) |
03:25 |
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chris |
yay brendan |
03:25 |
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chris |
bywater++ |
03:25 |
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Jo |
when I grow I am going to get a job where I don't have to micromanage every dollar ... oh wait - that means I can't be a public librarian! |
03:26 |
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Jo |
bywater++ |
03:26 |
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brendan |
so true jo |
03:26 |
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Jo |
libriotech++ |
03:26 |
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Jo |
:) |
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Amit |
heya brendan |
03:33 |
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chris_n |
fwiw: nice open source routable gps maps: http://garmin.na1400.info/routable.php |
03:33 |
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chris_n |
heya Amit |
03:33 |
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Amit |
heya chris_n |
03:33 |
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chris_n |
bywater++ |
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brendan |
hi amit |
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nod_ |
css is broken on mailman |
04:26 |
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nod_ |
it points at http://koha.org/includes/css/screen.css |
04:26 |
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nod_ |
which doesnt exist |
04:27 |
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nod_ |
http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/subscribe/koha |
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Ropuch |
Morning #koha |
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chris |
hi Ropuch |
07:26 |
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Ropuch |
Hi chris |
07:28 |
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chris |
nod_: should be better now |
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nicomo |
hi all |
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chris |
hi nicomo |
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nicomo |
hi chris |
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kf |
good morning |
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chris |
hi kf |
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kf |
hi chris |
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kf |
oooh recommendations! http://library.ashs.school.nz/[…]biblionumber=1854 |
08:52 |
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chris |
heh |
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chris |
its all ready to commit for 3.4 |
08:53 |
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kf |
always the same... 3.2 is not really here and I already long for 3.4 |
08:54 |
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chris |
:) |
08:54 |
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chris |
it has a new table for the db, a module, some template changes and a cron job |
08:55 |
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chris |
so bit big to go in 3.2 at this point |
08:56 |
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kf |
I understand :) |
08:59 |
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Ropuch |
Hi kf |
09:03 |
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Amit |
heya Ropuch, kf |
09:05 |
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magnus |
wow, those recommendations look cool |
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magnus |
anyone have any thoughts on the legality of using amazon stuff in the opac, re the message on the list? |
09:07 |
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chris |
last time anyone asked amazon they said it was fine |
09:08 |
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paul_p |
hello chris, magnus, kf & Ropuch |
09:08 |
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paul_p |
happy monday to all ! |
09:08 |
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magnus |
thanks, same to you paul_p! |
09:09 |
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magnus |
chris: when was that? |
09:10 |
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chris |
2006 |
09:10 |
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chris |
and 2008 |
09:10 |
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chris |
but if a library is unsure they should ask |
09:11 |
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chris |
its not koha's place |
09:11 |
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* magnus |
agreed |
09:11 |
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chris |
its the library who signs up to AWS |
09:11 |
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magnus |
yup |
09:11 |
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magnus |
unless their vendor does it for them... |
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|Lupin| |
hello there |
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kf |
happy monday paul (although I dont know whats happy about mondays) |
09:12 |
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chris |
well they shouldnt be using their vendors aws key, that certainly would be a violation of the TOS |
09:12 |
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chris |
hi paul_p :) and hi |Lupin| |
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paul_p |
hello |Lupin| Long time no see ! |
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kf |
hi |Lupin| |
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|Lupin| |
paul_p: hi ! indeed :-) |
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|Lupin| |
guten morgen kf ! :) |
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|Lupin| |
(hi chirs) |
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Topic for #koha is now Discussion channel for the Koha ILS | IRC meeting for organizing Koha 2010 @ 21:00 UTC+0, Monday, 15 February 2010 |
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Topic for #koha is now Discussion channel for the Koha ILS | IRC meeting for organizing KohaCon 2010 @ 21:00 UTC+0, Monday, 15 February 2010 |
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kf |
"The recommendations feature only works for libraries who don’t anonymise their patron data" |
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kf |
why does it not work with anonymized data? will be a real problem here :( |
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magnus |
yeah, that's not gonna go down well with the norwegian "Data Inspectorate" |
10:56 |
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kf |
same here |
10:57 |
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magnus |
i think i heard that it will be possible for patrons to choose whether to keep their reading history or not - is it possible to base this feature on the patrons who choose to keep their history? |
10:57 |
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kf |
dont know why it needs patron data |
10:58 |
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kf |
hm |
10:58 |
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magnus |
it's based on "people who borrowed this also borrowed...", i think? |
10:58 |
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kf |
the new feature is great but still not enough (thats what I have been told) |
10:58 |
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kf |
because you would need something to file that patrons wanted to keep their data, an email or something |
10:58 |
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kf |
if I understood correctly |
10:59 |
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kf |
there is a similar feature called bibtip you can integrate in your catalog here in germany |
11:00 |
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kf |
I think they work without patron specific data |
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magnus |
ok, got a link for that? commercial service? |
11:01 |
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magnus |
the norwegian "library laboratory" is thinking about creating a service for sharing things like this freely, so any examples are very interesting |
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kf |
http://www.bibtip.org/ |
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kf |
you have to pay for it, but it was developed at a university |
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magnus |
thanks for the link! |
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kf |
no problem |
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gmcharlt |
bbiab - starting a four-hour drive |
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kf |
magnus: this might be interesting too: http://www.daveyp.com/blog/archives/49 and http://www.daveyp.com/blog/archives/69 |
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kf |
magnus: bibtip works with search - not with issues. its more: people who looked at also looked at... |
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magnus |
kf: ah, important difference |
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kf |
magnus: yes, but in dave patterns blog are some ideas for anonymizing data from issues and he has a web service |
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magnus |
kf: yeah, looks really interesting! |
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hilongo |
gooooooddd moooorningggg ... Koha :) |
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hilongo |
@wunder Mendoza, Argentina |
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hilongo: The current temperature in Mendoza, Argentina is 24.0�C (10:00 AM ART on February 15, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
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chris_n |
@wunder 28334 |
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chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 3.0�C (8:41 AM EST on February 15, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Falling). |
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kf |
@wunder Konstanz |
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munin |
kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Germany is -1.4�C (2:51 PM CET on February 15, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Windchill: -1.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009.0 hPa (Steady). |
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collum_ |
@wunder 41017 |
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munin |
collum_: The current temperature in Taylor Mill, Taylor Mill, Kentucky is -1.3�C (8:52 AM EST on February 15, 2010). Conditions: Snow. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: -2.0�C. Windchill: -5.0�C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005.0 hPa (Rising). Winter Storm Warning in effect until 6 am EST Tuesday... |
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kf |
coldest :( |
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magnus_away |
@wunder bodo, norway |
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munin |
magnus_away: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0�C (2:20 PM CET on February 15, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Windchill: -1.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). |
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magnus_away |
but hey, i just saw the sun shining on my windowsill for the first time this year! :-) |
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hilongo |
a shining sun is always welcome :) |
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ebegin |
Hi #koha! |
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kf |
hi ebegin |
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ebegin |
hi kf. A quiet day, isn't :) |
15:31 |
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chris_n |
its a holiday for some in the us |
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ebegin |
Ah, that's why... :) |
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ebegin |
chris_n, which holiday it is? |
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chris_n |
president's day... aka George Washington's birthday |
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brendan |
@wunder 93117 |
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munin |
brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 7.1�C (7:45 AM PST on February 15, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Windchill: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015.5 hPa (Rising). |
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ebegin |
ok, thanks. |
15:51 |
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ebegin |
and you are working? :) |
15:51 |
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* chris_n |
wonders if overdue_notices.pl is really as buggy as he thinks |
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chris_n |
ebegin: somebody has to keep things going :) |
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ebegin |
hehe... right! |
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Colin |
chris_n I suspect overdue_notices.pl is as buggy as you think |
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* wizzyrea |
wants a holiday, but traded it for the day after Thanksgiving |
15:59 |
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chris_n |
Colin: I'm doing a bit of work in it, but it seems it should be reworked entirely |
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chris_n |
heya wizzyrea |
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wizzyrea |
heya chris_n |
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wizzyrea |
good weekend? |
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chris_n |
yup... had snow saturday for all of 6 hour or so |
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chris_n |
made lots of snowcream :-) |
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chris_n |
toted the sled behind the 4 wheeler with the children |
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chris_n |
put the snow away and went back to work on Monday ;) |
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brendan |
morning #koha |
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chris_n |
hi brendan && nengard |
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nengard |
hiya |
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brendan |
heya |
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chris_n |
is anyone actually using overdue_notices.pl with any measure of success? |
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* chris_n |
wonders why LibLime would complain about the quality of community code after submitting such a mess as that script is :-\ |
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* wizzyrea |
nods |
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wizzyrea |
man, I keep trying to buy a sled, but the stores are all out |
16:48 |
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wizzyrea |
I want to tromp around with the spud on a sled, but no sleds to be found in my town |
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* ebegin |
is trying to figure out the best way to setup its git repo to allow an access to a daily version and latest stable version... |
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ebegin |
If I want them to be available all day long, do I need 2 differents repo on my server? |
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chris_n |
ebegin: not necessarily... you can do two different branches |
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* chris_n |
assumes a public repo |
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chris_n |
ebegin: see http://git.foundations.edu/?p=koha.git;a=heads |
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ebegin |
chris_n, how can I have both running at the same time? |
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chris_n |
ahh |
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chris_n |
you want to run over git |
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chris_n |
is this for development |
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chris_n |
if so, I'd just setup two branches and change back and forth |
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wizzyrea |
bleh, where are the zebra logs kept? |
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chris_n |
if you actually want them to be up all the time, you'd need two repos |
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* wizzyrea |
thinks there really needs to be better zebra setup documentation |
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* chris_n |
agrees |
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chris_n |
om |
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* wizzyrea |
would write it, if she could ever get it to work |
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chris_n |
their in var/log |
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ebegin |
chris_n, ok, that confirms what I thought. I won't need the stable version to be managed on git though... however, my clients one has to be on git, so is the daily one too... |
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chris_n |
the location of which dependes you your setup |
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chris_n |
depends eve |
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chris_n |
even, even :-P |
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wizzyrea |
interesting, the script completes with no errors, but there is no zebra log in /var/log or koha-dev/var/log |
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* wizzyrea |
mutters something about maybe zebra isn't running... |
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* chris_n |
is not surprised |
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chris_n |
which script? |
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* wizzyrea |
mutters some more |
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wizzyrea |
rebuild_zebra.pl |
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chris_n |
are you running it as your koha user? |
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chris_n |
a point missed in the documentation iirc |
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wizzyrea |
a good question, see, that really isn't in the docs |
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chris_n |
try |
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ebegin |
run it with -v options. You may get more info |
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chris_n |
su koha |
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ebegin |
-v : verbose mode |
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chris_n |
and enter your koha user's password |
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wizzyrea |
ebgin: good call |
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chris_n |
then run it |
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wizzyrea |
they sort of talk about it during the install script |
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wizzyrea |
kind of |
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chris_n |
otherwise it will probably not work |
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wizzyrea |
chris_n I'm sure that will fix it |
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wizzyrea |
seems logical |
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* chris_n |
thinks a bit of documentation would go a long way towards demystifying zebra |
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Colin |
It writes to koha-dev/var/lib/zebradb |
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wizzyrea |
ah, and colin, that needs to be owned by <kohauser> |
17:02 |
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wizzyrea |
right? |
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ebegin |
yep that is correct |
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wizzyrea |
kool beans |
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ebegin |
all files in /var/lib/koha/zebradb/ |
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kf |
chris_n: i have a lot of problems with notices :( but the problem is fines.pl in combination with overdues.pl |
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wizzyrea |
very very close now, I can smell it |
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wizzyrea |
ty |
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Colin |
the rebuild-zebra script doesnt give much (useful) output even in verbose |
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ebegin |
you get the Permission denied info, as far as I can tell |
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chris_n |
ownership should be taken care of by the installer |
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chris_n |
another fix which would help |
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ebegin |
chris_n, it does if you install it using the koha user |
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chris_n |
wizzyrea: you'll still have to run the script as kohauser from the shell |
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wizzyrea |
right |
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wizzyrea |
but ahem, the docs don't direct you to do that |
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chris_n |
ebegin: that doesn work too well for dev installs |
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wizzyrea |
install as the koha user, at least, I missed it |
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wizzyrea |
and that |
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chris_n |
the installer should probably check to see what user it is being run as and warn or make decisions based on that |
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ebegin |
chris_n, there are effectively some flaws in the installation process |
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wizzyrea |
should probably do several things: prompt you/help you create the koha user |
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chris_n |
however, the installer is much better than it used to be |
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wizzyrea |
i mean, speaking from a pure newb perspective |
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chris_n |
gmcharlt has really fixed it up |
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chris_n |
gmcharlt: snap |
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wizzyrea |
(thinking of the poor librarians who just do tech because their director has told them to) |
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gmcharlt |
'ello, 'ello |
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chris_n |
the very mention of his nick brings him up :-) |
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wizzyrea |
it's like he's psychic |
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ebegin |
This is really cool... |
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chris_n |
we were just dissing the installer and zebra a bit |
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kf |
hi gmcharlt |
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wizzyrea |
though the installer is way better than it used to be |
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wizzyrea |
and the docs are way better than they used to be |
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chris_n |
but had to give you credit for the great improvement over what it used to be :) |
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ebegin |
gmcharlt, the line before gmcharlt joined #koha was "gmcharlt has really fixed it up" |
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wizzyrea |
always room for improvement |
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gmcharlt |
thanks |
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gmcharlt |
and wizzyrea is right, always room for improvement |
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* gmcharlt |
hopes that the Debianization happens for 3.4 as planned |
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* chris_n |
too |
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wizzyrea |
so, if someone wants to write up how they do it (the right way, or the usual way, or the best way, whatever) I'll be happy to nubify it |
17:10 |
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kf |
gmcharlt: I finally finished translation of the default bibliographic marc framework and authority frameworks. |
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wizzyrea |
make it pretty and all that |
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wizzyrea |
because I'm following the steps and I haven't gotten it to work without help |
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kf |
gmcharlt: can I just create a directory for DE-de with those 2 files or will it need all files translated for the installation process? |
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* chris_n |
goes back to overdue_notices.pl |
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ebegin |
kf, for which language? |
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kf |
german :) |
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gmcharlt |
kf: you'll need to translate or bring over the sysprefs SQL scripts as well |
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gmcharlt |
and the userpermissions stuff - pretty much everything in the en mandatory directory |
17:11 |
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kf |
gmcharlt: ok, I saw there is a way to gernate .po-files now |
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kf |
gmcharlt: uh, so still a lot of work. is this something that could be added for 3.2 or will it be 3.4? |
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gmcharlt |
right, but for now, the sysprefs SQL also needs to be brought over in order to initialize the sysprefs in the DB |
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gmcharlt |
kf: I'll accept translations whenever they appear |
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kf |
gmcharlt: thx, so I will get to work later. Is there something more that I need to know? I was not sure about new files/directories in git |
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gmcharlt |
adding new files is easy - just put them in place in your git tree, then git add the new files, then commit |
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gmcharlt |
any new directories will get taken careful when you git-add the new files in them |
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kf |
gmcharlt: thx - I will try and you can make me resend the patch until its right :) |
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wizzyrea |
it works :) |
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* wizzyrea |
does a bit of a happy dance |
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* chris_n |
reminds wizzyrea to keep her zebra fed and watered |
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wizzyrea |
going to set up the cron jobs now ;) |
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* gmcharlt |
mixes metaphors and points wizzyrea to collum_ if the zebra needs stripes |
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wizzyrea |
you guys are funny |
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wizzyrea |
i like it |
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kf |
:) |
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kf |
bye koha :) |
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chris_n |
did anybody checkout the cool embedded viewer api by google mentioned on the list? |
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Colin |
chris_n: just took a look the api looks nice. easy to use |
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wizzyrea |
collum_: I love you, thanks for doing that to the saved reports page |
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ebegin |
chris_n, i'm trying to find which viewer you are referring about... :( |
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wizzyrea |
oh squee, whoever reorganized tools-home.pl: very nice job |
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wizzyrea |
all sorts of goodies in here! |
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wizzyrea |
gmcharlt: rotating collections is coming out? |
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wizzyrea |
er, being removed? |
17:47 |
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gmcharlt |
wizzyrea: yep, I'll be moving it to future |
17:47 |
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wizzyrea |
k cool |
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Colin |
ebegin:http://code.google.com/apis/books/ |
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wizzyrea |
it's a good idea but doesn't work :( |
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collum_ |
wizzyrea: just came up stairs from lunch. You're welcome. |
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gmcharlt |
nengard: shall we get all fancy and register an ISSN for the Koha newsletter? |
17:49 |
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wizzyrea |
the only thing left is to make the "Report Saved" page have a link to "Run this report now" |
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nengard |
gmcharlt - considered it .... on a conference call now - will do it later |
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wizzyrea |
@later tell owen dk if this interests you: Bela Fleck will be in Athens on Feb. 18. Saw the show here, it was awesome |
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munin |
wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. |
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brendan |
@wunder 93117 |
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munin |
brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 17.4�C (10:57 AM PST on February 15, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Steady). |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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munin |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Germany is -7.3�C (7:51 PM CET on February 15, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: -7.0�C. Pressure: 29.78 in 1008.4 hPa (Steady). |
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cait |
hi brendan |
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brendan |
hi cait |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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munin |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Germany is -7.7�C (8:11 PM CET on February 15, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -10.0�C. Windchill: -8.0�C. Pressure: 29.78 in 1008.4 hPa (Steady). |
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imp |
@wunder hannover germany |
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cait |
ok, it is really getting colder :( |
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munin |
imp: The current temperature in Hannover, Wedemark, Germany is -5.8�C (7:59 PM CET on February 15, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -10.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007.0 hPa (Falling). |
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@wunder 28334 |
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munin |
chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 11.0�C (2:01 PM EST on February 15, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Pressure: 29.72 in 1006 hPa (Falling). |
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* chris_n |
tries to catch brendan |
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brendan |
keep coming :) |
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ebegin |
@wunder montreal, canada |
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munin |
ebegin: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is -1.0�C (2:00 PM EST on February 15, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: -8.0�C. Pressure: 29.63 in 1003 hPa (Steady). |
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chris_n |
ebegin: I'll be in Toronto next week |
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ebegin |
@wunder toronto, canada |
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munin |
ebegin: The current temperature in Toronto, Ontario is -1.0�C (2:00 PM EST on February 15, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: -8.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 29.69 in 1005 hPa (Falling). |
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slef |
evening all - can someone just confirm that bug 4189 isn't local to us? |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4189 minor, P5, ---, gmcharltgmail.com, NEW, Searching z39.50 without selecting any servers results in error message |
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wizzyrea |
slef: http://screencast.com/t/MGY5OTE5M |
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wizzyrea |
is that what you saw? |
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wizzyrea |
http://content.screencast.com/[…]24d3/00000137.png |
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wizzyrea |
if you don't like the screencast wrapper |
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wizzyrea |
slef: i was able to reproduce |
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slef |
@tell pianohackr it seems to be equivalent and means you can avoid installing dselect on newer systems, so please patch away. |
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munin |
slef: Error: I haven't seen pianohackr, I'll let you do the telling. |
19:49 |
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slef |
@tell pianohacker it seems to be equivalent and means you can avoid installing dselect on newer systems, so please patch away. |
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munin |
slef: Error: I haven't seen pianohacker, I'll let you do the telling. |
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slef |
damn, what's his nick |
19:49 |
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slef |
wizzyrea: yes, that's it, thanks. |
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wizzyrea |
@seen pianohacker|work |
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munin |
wizzyrea: Error: 'pianohacker|work' is not a valid nick. That nick is too long for this server. |
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wizzyrea |
@seen pianohackr|work |
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munin |
wizzyrea: pianohackr|work was last seen in #koha 1 day, 23 hours, 39 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <pianohackr|work> You're welcome |
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wizzyrea |
@seen pianohacker |
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munin |
wizzyrea: pianohacker was last seen in #koha 1 week, 3 days, 0 hours, 34 minutes, and 18 seconds ago: <pianohacker> brb work |
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wizzyrea |
probably pianohackr|work |
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slef |
@tell pianohackr|work it seems to be equivalent and means you can avoid installing dselect on newer systems, so please patch away. |
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munin |
slef: Error: I haven't seen pianohackr|work, I'll let you do the telling. |
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wizzyrea |
oh, it's @later tell |
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slef |
ah! |
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slef |
@later tell pianohackr|work it seems to be equivalent and means you can avoid installing dselect on newer systems, so please patch away. |
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munin |
slef: The operation succeeded. |
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wizzyrea |
there we go :) |
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slef |
thought I was going blind |
19:52 |
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slef |
thanks a second time in 10 minutes :) |
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wizzyrea |
yvw |
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chris_n |
well, overdue_notices.pl is a bit better behaved now |
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* chris_n |
will now attempt to allow inserting fine totals in notices |
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cait1 |
chris_n: I dont have words for how happy this would make me! :) |
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chris |
morning |
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cait1 |
morning chris |
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chris_n |
g'morning chris |
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brendan |
morning chris |
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chris |
hiya brendan |
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chris |
hi cait and chris_n |
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wizzyrea |
mornin chris |
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chris |
hi wizzyrea, not on holiday? |
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wizzyrea |
nope, bummer eh? |
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chris |
yep |
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gmcharlt |
hi chris |
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chris |
but now you can come to the kohacon meeting :) |
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chris |
heya gmcharlt |
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wizzyrea |
truth! |
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wizzyrea |
ok, strange operational question |
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chris |
todays song of the day http://listen.grooveshark.com/[…]g+Way+Home/2wcdE9 |
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wizzyrea |
and one from me too: http://popup.lala.com/popup/504684643780017304 |
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chris |
oh that is nice |
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wizzyrea |
brb |
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wizzyrea |
back, flash 10. bleh. |
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chris |
heh |
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cait1 |
@wunder Konstanz |
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munin |
cait1: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Germany is -8.3�C (9:21 PM CET on February 15, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: -10.0�C. Windchill: -8.0�C. Pressure: 29.78 in 1008.4 hPa (Steady). |
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cait1 |
brrrr :( |
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wizzyrea |
http://listen.grooveshark.com/[…]Jazz+Dance/2yg1OU |
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wizzyrea |
also good one |
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wizzyrea |
saw this guy with Bela Fleck on Saturday, I'm not usually so keen on bluegrass fiddle, but he's... different. |
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wizzyrea |
was a fabulous show |
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brendan |
yeah I've seen bela fleck he puts on a fun show |
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brendan |
saw him in Santa Fe, NM |
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wizzyrea |
oh man, he was with the Africa Project, and those guys can PLAY. Holy cow. |
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wizzyrea |
(the Bela Fleck tix were my hubs xmas present from me :)) |
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wizzyrea |
i just got lucky enough to be the one he chose to take with him ^.^ |
20:51 |
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wizzyrea |
vague procedural question: there must be a reason that the example crontabs have the hold queue running every hour |
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wizzyrea |
is that because running it less often causes anomalies? |
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wizzyrea |
and is it better to run it more often, and have the librarians print it right before they do their picks? |
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chris |
i suspect an hour was just a random thing |
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chris |
i doubt much thought went into it |
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chris |
running it less would mean it would get out of date |
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wizzyrea |
seems like there is an awful lot of coincidence of timing when you run infrequently |
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chris |
faster |
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braedon|work |
does anyone know what permission an account needs to renew books from the staff interface? |
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wizzyrea |
I went through the holds process while looking at bug 3595 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3595 normal, P5, ---, gmcharltgmail.com, NEW, Items seen at checkin should always go to 1st priority hold |
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wizzyrea |
it's still "broken" but I wonder if it could be mitigated by running the hold queue more often |
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wizzyrea |
oh and i found something else |
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wizzyrea |
sort of related |
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gmcharlt |
wizzyrea: the holds queue is really meant to be run as frequently as you send out staff to pick items from the stacks |
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chris |
braedon|work: i think circulation |
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wizzyrea |
4 libraries, a b c and d, 1 book, 4 copies, 4 patrons, 1,2,3, and 4: patron 1 places a hold on title A. Hold queue runs, item 1 is assigned. Item is checked in, hold is IGNORED. Item 2 then is checked in, the system prompts to send the item to patron 2, who is 2nd on the list. |
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wizzyrea |
ignoring patron 1, who is still first on the list |
20:58 |
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wizzyrea |
until you run the holds queue again |
20:58 |
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wizzyrea |
that is good to know, gmcharlt |
20:59 |
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russ |
kohacon volunteers meeting starts in 10 mins |
20:59 |
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russ |
oops |
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wizzyrea |
item 3 is checked in, it goes back to patron 1 |
20:59 |
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russ |
5 mins :-) |
20:59 |
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russ |
more caffiene required |
20:59 |
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nod_ |
4 min? |
20:59 |
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wizzyrea |
it just seems like, no matter what, the 1st person on the list should always get the first available item. |
20:59 |
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wizzyrea |
and that doesn't happen |
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braedon|work |
chris: doesn't seem to work with circulation(3.00.05). |
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wizzyrea |
gmcharlt: so, say you have 30 libraries, all sending people out at varying times of the day |
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wizzyrea |
you should run the hold queue more like hourly instead of 2x day |
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wizzyrea |
and they should print it before they walk into the stacks |
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chris |
braedon|work: must be a diff one then |
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chris |
bulkmarcimport.pl is deprecated?? since when? |
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braedon|work |
chris: the patron we are trying to enable renewing for has circulate and catalogue privileges. Can't see anything else that looks related |
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russ |
ok lets get started |
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gmcharlt |
wizzyrea: yep |
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Jo |
morning all |
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chilts |
hello everyone :) |
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BobB |
Good morning all |
21:04 |
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russ |
KohaCon10 meeting - agenda http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]on2010:volunteers |
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russ |
apologies from Rosalie Blake |
21:04 |
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russ |
who is here |
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wizzyrea |
/msg gmcharlt one more question so as not to interrupt their meeting: is there any weighting of the holds system to attempt to match patrons with books from their own branch? besides the local holds stuff, of course. |
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Jo |
Joann Ransom, HLT |
21:04 |
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wizzyrea |
doh |
21:04 |
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* chilts |
puts his hand up |
21:04 |
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wizzyrea |
lol |
21:04 |
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Jo |
Deborahh Macdonald HLT |
21:04 |
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* russ |
-> Russel Garlick, Catalyst IT |
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IrmaCalyx |
Irma from CALYX |
21:04 |
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chilts |
Andy Chilton, Catalyst IT |
21:04 |
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BobB |
Bob Birchall, Calyx in Sydney |
21:04 |
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brendan |
brendan gallagher bywater solutions |
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Jo is now known as DebJo |
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* wizzyrea |
-> nekls, just sitting in |
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chris |
chris cormack, catatlyst IT |
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richard |
richard anderson, katipo |
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* chris_n |
chris Nighswonger FBC sitting in |
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* gmcharlt |
Galen Charlton, sitting in |
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chilts |
I think Don is coming soon :) |
21:06 |
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russ |
:-) |
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* nengard |
Nicole Engard |
21:06 |
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Ropuch |
Piotr Wejman, Biblioteka CSNE |
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russ |
ok so sounds like a couple of people who would like to volunteer have been unable to make it, nvm we'll roll on |
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nod_ |
donovan jones, Catalyst IT |
21:08 |
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russ |
ok so point of today's meeting is just a kick off, not too much detail. |
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russ |
Chris and I have worked up a base plan of attack http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]010conferenceplan |
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russ |
thanks to those sponsors who have contributed already |
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chris |
yep, thanks to bywater and libriotech we are able to pay the deposit on the venue |
21:10 |
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chilts |
looks like a good outline as a start :) |
21:10 |
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chris |
and thanks to HLT for getting that done |
21:10 |
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DebJo |
nw |
21:10 |
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russ |
so as i see it there will be 2 streams of work for the moment |
21:10 |
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DebJo |
I think a blogpost on the koha-community site about donations now being accepted wouldbe timely |
21:10 |
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chris |
would you be able to do that DebJo ? |
21:10 |
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DebJo |
sure |
21:11 |
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chris |
the nice thing about that site, is we can edit it !!! |
21:11 |
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chris |
:) |
21:11 |
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wizzyrea |
^.^ |
21:11 |
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brendan |
koha-community++ |
21:11 |
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DebJo |
moving along now kids ... |
21:11 |
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russ |
there are two streams of work 1)logistics 2)programme/theme |
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russ |
so i'll be looking after most of the logistics/operational side of things |
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DebJo |
go Russ |
21:12 |
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russ |
as for the programme side we need some people who can review paper submissions |
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russ |
maybe come up with a theme etc... |
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chris |
nicole is free from the end of feb |
21:12 |
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russ |
:-) |
21:12 |
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chilts |
russ: theme? |
21:13 |
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DebJo |
i seconf nicole :) |
21:13 |
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nengard |
russ - i'll manage the program if you guys are okay with that |
21:13 |
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nengard |
but I don't want to make people submit 'papers' |
21:13 |
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chris |
we want to have probably 4 or 5 ppl |
21:13 |
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nengard |
short proposals are a-ok |
21:13 |
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chris |
with nengard coordinating |
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nengard |
chris- oh heck yeah- i want help |
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BobB |
I'm happy to help there. Busy till mid March but can still do stuff |
21:13 |
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chris |
cool |
21:13 |
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russ |
sweet |
21:13 |
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richard |
i can help with that one |
21:13 |
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DebJo |
I'm happy to be one of the readers of the papers, but as a last choice preferably |
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chris |
i second short abstracts too |
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* russ |
is going to hit up rosa as well to help with that |
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DebJo |
seriously - last choice - make me 10th choice :) |
21:14 |
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brendan |
I can help nicole with reviews of proposals |
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russ |
but i am not sure how busy she is these days |
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DebJo |
just checking with Rosalie now |
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DebJo |
Rosalie said yes |
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DebJo |
(she in a meeting at the library now) |
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russ |
:-) |
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chris |
i wonder if someone at nekls would like to help out with that too? |
21:15 |
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chris |
:) |
21:15 |
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wizzyrea |
^.^ sure |
21:15 |
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nengard |
wow - how many people do we have now? |
21:15 |
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DebJo |
drop me off |
21:15 |
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wizzyrea |
like jo though, down the list >.> |
21:16 |
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wizzyrea |
but you can put me above her ;) |
21:16 |
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chris |
IMHO id like the conference to be not techy |
21:16 |
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chris |
we have the hackfest to get techy |
21:16 |
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russ |
nengard coordinator, rosalie, brendan, BobB is what i have |
21:16 |
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chris |
ideally librarians presenting 90% of it would be awesome |
21:16 |
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chris |
thats just my thoughts tho |
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nengard |
okay - here was my vision - I put up a form for people to submit proposals - short proposals - not long papers - then we review them and fit them into a schedule - i can tell you with KohaCon this year we didn't have enough people submitting ideas - so i don't know that there will be much to read |
21:17 |
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russ |
nengard: sure :-) |
21:17 |
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russ |
we have a couple of people lined up to give some talks |
21:17 |
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DebJo |
would be nice for someone to write a blog of a dreamlist of presentations - themes, ideas, what they'd like to see. |
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chris |
right, but i think we can make a bigger effort to get ppl to submit talks too |
21:17 |
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BobB |
Proposals should be 150 words, no more |
21:17 |
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nengard |
chris we need to push the "non techy" thing and see if we can get more speakers |
21:17 |
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russ |
i think it would be good if we can nominate say one day as being of more interest to people new to koha |
21:17 |
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nengard |
cause I did like 6 sessions last year and was exhausted :) |
21:17 |
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chilts |
nengard: we can now put up a form on the KohaCon website (with whatever fields you want) and it'll get emailed to Chris |
21:17 |
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chris |
yeah, i think ppl are scared that they need to be techy |
21:17 |
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wizzyrea |
I want to see something about reports, something about customizing the interface (in all of it's myriad forms), something about SOPAC... |
21:18 |
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nengard |
yes - sopac!! |
21:18 |
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nengard |
:) |
21:18 |
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chilts |
if you want something more funky that just a plain old form, we'll have to sort it out a different way (the website just does generic forms) |
21:18 |
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wizzyrea |
tying koha to your website in general |
21:18 |
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chris |
chilts: it could save it the same way it does the rego's eh? |
21:18 |
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nengard |
chilts i was thinking more like a google form that puts it into a spreadsheet we can all share and then organize into a schedule |
21:18 |
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chilts |
yep |
21:18 |
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nengard |
still public - but not dealing with emails!! :) |
21:18 |
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chilts |
nengard: ah, good idea :) |
21:18 |
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russ |
chilts: i have some ideas there so maybe i will work in with nengard and get it sorted |
21:18 |
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russ |
but yeah submitt to google docs all good |
21:19 |
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chilts |
sounds like a Google Form might be better already |
21:19 |
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russ |
ok so it think that is enough on the programme already - thanks nengard for heading that up |
21:19 |
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nengard |
no prob |
21:19 |
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nengard |
i'll put a form together at the end of the month |
21:19 |
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nengard |
and we can put out a call |
21:19 |
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russ |
sweet |
21:20 |
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russ |
ok so sponsorship |
21:20 |
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wizzyrea |
an open session about what we could do if we had all the money in the world to develop would be cool |
21:20 |
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wizzyrea |
always good ideas come out of that |
21:20 |
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nengard |
LOL |
21:20 |
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nengard |
that would be useful pre-hackfest |
21:20 |
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nengard |
to give hackers ideas |
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Ropuch |
;> |
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russ |
i plan to start recording that in a more private google doc |
21:20 |
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chris |
speaking of the hackfest, there probably isnt going to be much hacking done |
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chris |
think of it more as a developers unconference |
21:21 |
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chris |
talking in person is so much more productive than us all staring at our screens ;) |
21:21 |
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chris |
we can get all excited and share ideas, then go home and code them |
21:22 |
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russ |
sounds good to me :-) |
21:23 |
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russ |
we have venue sorted for that, has 3 rooms so all can be together |
21:23 |
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brendan |
also do a little bit of education for the amateur hackers |
21:23 |
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russ |
or break out into smaller groups |
21:23 |
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chris |
brendan: yup |
21:24 |
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DebJo |
sounds good |
21:24 |
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wizzyrea |
a "get into Git" session would be cool :P |
21:24 |
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chris |
yeah we have some git gurus in the building |
21:24 |
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chris |
so i will be tapping them to come give a talk |
21:25 |
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DebJo |
maybe one of kete - koha integration |
21:25 |
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chilts |
yeah, nod_ and I will try and tap into some Catalyst expertise :) |
21:25 |
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chilts |
or Chris :D |
21:25 |
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nod_ |
wizzyrea: noted |
21:25 |
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brendan |
any ideas for a keynote speaker ? |
21:25 |
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nod_ |
Im gooing to be co-ordinating the hackfest with chilts |
21:25 |
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russ |
brendan: we have one |
21:25 |
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russ |
but are yet to sort that out |
21:25 |
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brendan |
cool |
21:25 |
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russ |
watch this space :-) |
21:26 |
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DebJo |
would you like sharon to do a anything from HLT? |
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russ |
ok if we can get back to budget stuff for the moment, and sponsorship |
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* brendan |
finds that I watch it too much ## at least my wife tells me that |
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chris |
actually yes, sharon would be a great speaker |
21:26 |
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DebJo |
and nice for HLT to welcome our comrades to NZ |
21:26 |
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chris |
yep |
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russ |
DebJo: I need to work in with you guys to manage how we are getting on with that |
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nod_ |
any other suggestions for hackfest topics? |
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russ |
nod_ can we differ that to later please |
21:27 |
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nod_ |
ok |
21:27 |
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russ |
i'd like to just talk about the budget |
21:27 |
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russ |
our needs are modest and we have 2 targets |
21:27 |
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chris |
should we add to the wiki how much we have raised so far? |
21:28 |
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DebJo |
would be nice and transparent |
21:28 |
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russ |
chris: yep |
21:28 |
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brendan |
that would be helpful chris |
21:28 |
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DebJo |
could show incomings and outgoings as the happen |
21:28 |
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brendan |
that way we know if we need to do more |
21:28 |
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chris |
DebJo: if you could let me know after the meeting, ill update the wiki (or you can either/or) |
21:28 |
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DebJo |
we'll teach deb how to edit the wiki - good learning curve |
21:28 |
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russ |
the base level gets us a room, the target (10kNZD) gets us some niceties |
21:29 |
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DebJo |
(she loves me really) |
21:29 |
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BobB |
It would be great if budget allowed for a Maori welcome. Our indigenous people would call it 'welcome to country'. I don't know what you call it. |
21:29 |
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russ |
if you are going to approach people for sponsorship |
21:29 |
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russ |
can you please let me know, so i can track it |
21:29 |
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DebJo |
'Rent a Maori' you mean .. |
21:29 |
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russ |
sorry people can we get off content for a moment |
21:29 |
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russ |
and on to operational stuff |
21:29 |
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DebJo |
the powhiri can be purchased at Rotorua |
21:29 |
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russ |
i know it is boring |
21:30 |
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russ |
but i just want to get this stuff sorted so we have a base to build on |
21:30 |
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BobB |
Ok to be bored:) |
21:30 |
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DebJo |
imp too |
21:30 |
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brendan |
would be nice to have a list of cost and what you are targeting for them |
21:30 |
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brendan |
or I may have missed that |
21:31 |
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russ |
http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]erenceplan#budget |
21:31 |
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DebJo |
i view a donation as a voluntary registrtaion fee so maybe we market it that way to - so those who can afford to pay do |
21:32 |
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russ |
DebJo: i agree - chilts we should talk about how we can intergrate that into the form |
21:32 |
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brendan |
russ if possible list the cost of the venue, etc. |
21:32 |
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DebJo |
realistically, we'd pay a regis fee for any other conference, why would we not pay for this one |
21:32 |
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chilts |
russ: might be a nengard thing if it's on Google Spreadsheets (rather than the KohaCon website) |
21:32 |
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DebJo |
but allows for those who can't afford to pay to partciapte anyway |
21:32 |
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chilts |
I figure people could just register and then go and donate :) |
21:32 |
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nengard |
i just need to know what fields you want |
21:32 |
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chilts |
two separate things |
21:33 |
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chris |
im with chilts |
21:33 |
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DebJo |
yep - 2 seperate |
21:33 |
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russ |
err |
21:33 |
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DebJo |
1 is registration (another field - and clcik here to donate) |
21:33 |
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chris |
id much rather do it with sponsorship |
21:33 |
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chris |
than get librarians paying out of their pocket |
21:33 |
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russ |
sure - and i think that is doable |
21:33 |
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chris |
specially if they are paying 2k to get her |
21:33 |
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chris |
e |
21:33 |
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russ |
certainly to get the min amount |
21:34 |
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russ |
we need to firm up the estimates on some of this stuff |
21:34 |
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chris |
so id like us to not push the donations to much, until we have exhausted sponsorship options |
21:34 |
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russ |
DebJo: who do i talk to about tracking the monies at HLT? |
21:34 |
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chris |
every other kohacon has been free for attendees |
21:34 |
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chilts |
certainly the Donate button is already in good view, so it's definitely there for people wishing to see it :D |
21:34 |
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DebJo |
Deborah |
21:34 |
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russ |
DebJo: ta |
21:34 |
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chris |
yeah, i think thats all that it needs |
21:34 |
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DebJo |
deborahlibrary.org.nz |
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21:35 |
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russ |
righto - sponsorship first, we will see how that goes |
21:35 |
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DebJo |
what grant applications |
21:35 |
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russ |
DebJo: i have started looking into that |
21:35 |
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DebJo |
what about (i meant) |
21:35 |
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DebJo |
cool |
21:36 |
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brendan |
one thing that would be good for those looking to do sponsorship would be a list of things to sponsor -- i.e coffee break, or projector, something like that |
21:36 |
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BobB |
chris: I agree to focus on sponsorship first. Donations should be anonymous to not embarrass people who can't afford to contribute |
21:36 |
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russ |
brendan: yep good idea |
21:36 |
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russ |
we will firm up costings and get them in there |
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russ |
but to summarise, we want to do this with sponsorship if we can, we will do a break down for the wiki page, add a list of how much and who has contributed so far, and sponsorship coordination to go through me |
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chris |
souds good |
21:38 |
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chris |
+n |
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brendan |
+1 |
21:38 |
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russ |
is anyone from ashs here at the moment? |
21:38 |
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chris |
nope |
21:39 |
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* russ |
makes a note to contact them later |
21:39 |
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chris |
during school hours, is unlikely they can get away |
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russ |
sure |
21:39 |
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IrmaCalyx |
back again... |
21:39 |
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chilts |
:) |
21:39 |
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russ |
ok next point - Website Content |
21:39 |
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russ |
we need a couple of things there |
21:40 |
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chilts |
anyone who wants to be able to edit the site, let me know your Gmail address and I'll add you in |
21:40 |
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russ |
if we could get some volunteers from outside NZ to write up some tips on the best way to get to NZ etc |
21:40 |
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russ |
that would be great |
21:40 |
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russ |
suggestions for travel sites etc |
21:40 |
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IrmaCalyx |
we can do from Australia |
21:40 |
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chris |
sweet |
21:40 |
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russ |
my advice for our nth america friends - fly out of SFO :-) |
21:40 |
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brendan |
I can suggest somethings from Los angelos |
21:41 |
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brendan |
or SFO |
21:41 |
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chris |
cool brendan |
21:41 |
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russ |
thanks brendan |
21:41 |
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chilts |
it seems the /2010/travel/ section is more about getting around Wgtn, do we want something else for actually getting here? |
21:41 |
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nengard |
russ - i looked as SFO cause I hate LAX - but LAX was way way cheaper |
21:41 |
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nengard |
:( |
21:41 |
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russ |
nengard: right |
21:41 |
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brendan |
chilts what's your email again |
21:42 |
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chilts |
pm |
21:42 |
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brendan |
if you want to send it to me -- brendanbywatersolutions.com |
21:42 |
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brendan |
ah cool |
21:42 |
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russ |
nengard: did you check AirNZ ? |
21:42 |
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nengard |
I forget - wasn't checking too closely yet - just wanted an idea so i could start budgeting |
21:42 |
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nengard |
will check though |
21:42 |
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russ |
i know around that time they start putting on flights for the winter ski season |
21:42 |
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brendan |
chilts I'd say a section for getting there would be important |
21:43 |
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russ |
they quite often do some special through vancouver as well |
21:43 |
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chilts |
so /2010/getting-to-wellington/ ? or /2010/getting-here/ |
21:43 |
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IrmaCalyx |
irmalibrariesgmail.com |
21:43 |
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russ |
Joann: did you contact any budget accom like backpackers? |
21:44 |
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russ |
there are a couple of good ones nearby |
21:44 |
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russ |
opps or should that have been directed to DebJo :-) |
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* russ |
will touch base on that later |
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IrmaCalyx |
What about enting a large appartment in town for a week? |
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IrmaCalyx |
Is that available in Wellington? |
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russ |
sure there are serviced apartments |
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russ |
used a lot by government types |
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IrmaCalyx |
not serviced but short term stays |
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brendan |
maybe if we're overwhelmed by donations |
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russ |
brendan: i like your optimism :-) |
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IrmaCalyx |
I am happy to do a bit of investigation |
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russ |
IrmaCalyx: thanks |
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russ |
ok looking at agenda - I think we have the roles pretty much sorted - thanks to all for volunteering |
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nengard |
no prob |
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chilts |
new section : http://kohacon.appspot.com/2010/getting-here/ |
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nengard |
we need the NZ natives to volunteer as tour guides and sources for good info about where to eat etc :) |
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chilts |
will need to add a menu item to it later I'm afraid :) |
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chris |
i started doing that |
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russ |
nengard: no problem there |
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nengard |
:) |
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nengard |
figured |
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chris |
http://kohacon.appspot.com/2010/travel/food.html |
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nengard |
yeah - i don't want to read :) hehe - i want you to tell me :) |
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chris |
i need to keep adding to the map though |
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wizzyrea |
suggestions on where to park your kid might be helpful, but that's purely selfish |
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DebJo |
sorry - couldn't get back on |
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chris |
te papa :) |
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DebJo |
(will go check logs) |
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wizzyrea |
;) |
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BobB |
chris: ++ |
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russ |
wizzyrea: ah good point - we can add some ideas about what hangerons can do during conference |
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wizzyrea |
yes, hangeron activities |
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BobB |
russ: Like a partners programme |
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russ |
ok the last thing I want to do is set a time for the next meeting |
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IrmaCalyx |
also some "first aid" info (that won't be needed I hope) |
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russ |
given how far out we are, I was thinking a months time? does that seem reasonable? |
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chris |
sounds ok to me, we can discuss things before then if needed |
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* angela |
belatedly turns up |
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angela is now known as rach |
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chilts |
yep, 1 month sounds good |
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russ |
email traffic to general list, dev list or should we get a new one set up? |
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IrmaCalyx |
monthly meeting for March, April, May, June, then every 2 weeks? |
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russ |
IrmaCalyx: you read my mind - something like that sounds like the go |
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brendan |
i vote for general list |
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chris |
general list is fine i think |
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IrmaCalyx |
++ |
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* rach |
will volunteer for kid parking |
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chris |
one thing i dont need is another mailing list :) |
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russ |
lol - i hear that :-) |
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nengard |
+1 |
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chris |
sounds good rach |
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russ |
cool - email traffic will be to general list - include KohaCon10 in the subject line |
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chris |
works for me |
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BobB |
Will stimulate interest |
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chilts |
KohaCon2010 I think is the tag we're directing at (for Twitter, Identica, Flickr etc) |
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chris |
kohacon10 |
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chilts |
oh |
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chilts |
sorry |
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chris |
less typing :) |
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IrmaCalyx |
If the KohaCon logo could be made avaialble asap that would be good |
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russ |
IrmaCalyx: that is on the todo list for this month |
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russ |
ok so next meeting in a months time, i think we will try to go for a little earlier |
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russ |
8am |
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chris |
nz time? |
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russ |
8am NZST (if there are no objections) |
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chris |
ok for me |
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BobB |
Hallo? we don't need it to be earlier |
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chris |
ah yeah, good point |
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russ |
right |
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chris |
that would be mental for aussie |
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chilts |
I apologise for not making next month's ... am in Thailand :D |
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BobB |
I like to be awake in meetings :) |
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russ |
right |
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brendan |
fine with me, but seems we are missing europe times |
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brendan |
for example if biblibre has anything to add |
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russ |
brendan: yeah it is a problem, but the core of volunteers are here in nz |
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brendan |
:) cool with me |
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BobB |
I guess there is no best time for the whole world. Now is middle of the night in India, for example |
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russ |
so that was what influenced my thinking around the meeting time |
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russ |
ok we will stick with 10am for the time being |
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russ |
i will contact a couple of the people who have not been able to make it this time |
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russ |
and see if they can make it next time round |
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russ |
ok - little messy this time round - we are at the start of this so prolly to be expected |
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russ |
i have covered what i wanted |
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BobB |
We haven't discussed the road trip. Who's coordinating that? |
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chris |
mark osborne, from ashs |
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russ |
chris: we need to contact mark and see if there is a time he can make an irc meeting |
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chris |
yup |
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darling |
(got distracted w/work item here -- I can write up US to WLG travel tips have done that trip about 10 times in the past couple of yrs) |
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russ |
darling: cool |
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BobB |
OK. Irma and I could fly into Auck and hire a car - so make 2 or 3 seats available if needed |
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chilts |
darling: PM me your Gmail and I'll add you to the KohaCon editors :) |
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chris |
BobB: awesome, did you get a chance to talk to mark at LCA? |
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BobB |
chris: Just briefly, but can contact him separately |
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chris |
sweet |
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nengard |
k - time to go start cooking dinner |
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russ |
in terms of organisation - the road trip is a side event |
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nengard |
talk to you all later - as always feel free to email or PM when I'm on :) |
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chris |
and i have a meeting now too |
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russ |
ok i have to get going |
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chris |
thanks for running the meeting russ |
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BobB |
thanks all |
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brendan |
thanks russ |
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russ |
so to confirm next meeting will be at 10am Wed March 17 NZ time |
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chris |
cool |
22:04 |
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russ |
i'll post some minutes to the wiki later today |
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* rach |
will be san francisco |
22:05 |
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chilts |
we have lots of editors for the site now ... so that's cool |
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BobB |
St Patrick's Day! |
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chilts |
any suggestions for menu placements will have to come through me for the moment though (sorry, hope to fix that up soon) :D |
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BobB |
Wear green to the meeting! |
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russ |
ok thanks all - we will get a bit more structured as we move forward |
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* russ |
heads off |
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* chilts |
too |
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cait1 |
meeting over? |
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russ |
yep |
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cait1 |
ah ok |
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heads home |
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collum_ |
I was going to enable warnings in opac-logout.pl, but it doesn't seem to be used anymore. |
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collum_ |
Is that correct? or am I missing something? |
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chris |
collum_: doesnt appear to |
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collum_ |
Thanks chris. It's done. |
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collum_ |
:) |
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chris |
lunch time |
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@wunder 93117 |
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munin |
brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 21.1�C (3:23 PM PST on February 15, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Steady). |
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@wunder Konstanz |
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munin |
cait1: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is -6.0�C (12:00 AM CET on February 16, 2010). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Pressure: 29.79 in 1009 hPa (Falling). |
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@wunder tauranga nz |
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braedon|work: The current temperature in Tauranga Aerodrome Aws, New Zealand is 17.0�C (10:00 AM NZDT on February 16, 2010). Conditions: . Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Rising). |
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