| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 12:33 |
|
slef |
hdl_laptop: does hiddenbranch exist or has it got another name? |
| 12:33 |
|
hdl_laptop |
dunnow. |
| 12:34 |
|
slef |
shame. sounds like an interesting feature |
| 12:34 |
|
hdl_laptop |
I read sthg about that. |
| 12:34 |
|
hdl_laptop |
But I can't remember where. |
| 12:35 |
|
hdl_laptop |
I think it was on the wiki. |
| 12:36 |
|
slef |
http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?do=search&id=hidden not interesting |
| 12:39 |
|
Amit |
hi slef |
| 13:08 |
|
slef |
hi schuster |
| 13:09 |
|
slef |
so, if I'm not using the circulation rules, can we attach attributes to patron categories, or can someone suggest another approach? |
| 13:10 |
|
slef |
schuster, owen and anyone else who's come in since: I have some items that I don't want a certain category of users to view (let alone borrow). |
| 13:27 |
|
hdl_laptop |
it should be independant from circulation rules. |
| 13:29 |
|
owen |
Thanks hdl_laptop. Your command of English is superior to mine :) |
| 13:34 |
|
hdl_laptop |
owen: ??? I donot think it was comprehension. |
| 13:57 |
|
wizzyrea |
slef did you ever figure out a graceful way to solve your "group of patrons" issue? |
| 13:57 |
|
wizzyrea |
because we have items that a similar paradigm could be applied to |
| 13:57 |
|
wizzyrea |
(book club sets, for example)) |
| 13:58 |
|
jdavidb |
wizzyrea: Was hoping to see you around...I've got a bug I'm about to squash, and wanted to see what you think of the way I'm gonna lick it.. |
| 13:59 |
|
jdavidb |
@bug 3260 |
| 13:59 |
|
wizzyrea |
ok, you just made me laugh |
| 13:59 |
|
munin |
jdavidb: Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3260 enhancement, P5, ---, henridamien koha-fr.org, NEW, Adding bcc to email notices |
| 13:59 |
|
jdavidb |
Why so? You've got good sense, which is more than I can say for m'self this morning. |
| 13:59 |
|
wizzyrea |
hehe |
| 13:59 |
|
jdavidb |
Ah. While mine is offline, along with most-of-the-rest of my skull. |
| 14:00 |
|
wizzyrea |
ok, hit me with your solution |
| 14:00 |
|
jdavidb |
My thinking here is to add a syspref, and if the syspref is non-null, use that as an address in a BCC for everything processed by process_message_queue. |
| 14:01 |
|
jdavidb |
This is a feature for librarians who have nothing better to do with their time than obsess over whether an email notice went out...Unfortunately, I have one for a customer. |
| 14:02 |
|
wizzyrea |
so... would there be a way to digest them? |
| 14:02 |
|
jdavidb |
No, that's not in this. The request that I got, believe it or not, was to BCC each-and-every one. Crazy talk, I know. |
| 14:02 |
|
wizzyrea |
yea, I can see that would get really annoying for librarians (but they have to learn about filters sometime |
| 14:03 |
|
wizzyrea |
you're talking single branch? |
| 14:03 |
|
jdavidb |
Making a digest of them would be a bit more complex, but not amazingly so--could use a similar mechanism to how non-emailable ones are done. |
| 14:03 |
|
jdavidb |
In this case, yes. |
| 14:04 |
|
wizzyrea |
well, hm. |
| 14:04 |
|
owen |
It's hard to see how this change would be very widely useful |
| 14:05 |
|
wizzyrea |
in order to be helpful for us it would have to pull the branch specific email address |
| 14:05 |
|
jdavidb |
The clever way to do it would be to digest, and then deal with whether IndyBranch is on, and split 'em off, if so. |
| 14:05 |
|
wizzyrea |
(and digested) |
| 14:06 |
|
wizzyrea |
yea, but the quick n dirty way you're suggesting would definitely fix it for your client |
| 14:06 |
|
wizzyrea |
and since it's a syspref it won't bother folks too much |
| 14:07 |
|
wizzyrea |
well we haven't had anyone ask for that, BUT I do think it would be helpful information |
| 14:08 |
|
jdavidb |
K. I'm gonna solve this the quick-and-filthy way, then leave the ticket open for a more-robust answer later. |
| 14:09 |
|
wizzyrea |
sounds like a plan. :) |
| 14:10 |
|
jdavidb |
Thanks, wizzyrea; you're a gem. I knew there was some niggling problem with what I was thinking, but couldn't put my thumb on it. |
| 14:10 |
|
jdavidb |
wizzyrea++ |
| 15:19 |
|
slef |
wizzyrea: which one? :) |
| 15:21 |
|
slef |
I'm going to be here and there a bit - it's too hot to work and I don't want to sweat into the peripherals |
| 15:27 |
|
wizzyrea |
slef: "schuster, owen and anyone else who's come in since: I have some items that I don't want a certain category of users to view (let alone borrow)." |
| 15:27 |
|
wizzyrea |
I wondered if you had found a solution for that, we can see a use for it here as well |
| 16:04 |
|
slef |
wizzyrea: no. I'm likely to bodge it for now by exposing the borrower categorycode to the templates and testing in there. Do you know any funding for a long-term solution? |
| 16:06 |
|
wizzyrea |
I don't... but you might put it out there and see if anybody grabs onto it |
| 16:06 |
|
wizzyrea |
I can't say for sure, but it might be something NEKLS throws some bucks at |
| 16:06 |
|
wizzyrea |
er, would throw. Monday morning English failure. |
| 16:17 |
|
slef |
wizzyrea: oi, who are you calling a failure? ;-) |
| 16:18 |
|
wizzyrea |
me :) |
| 16:18 |
|
wizzyrea |
*sigh* English LANGUAGE failure. |
| 16:18 |
|
wizzyrea |
specificity. I has it. |
| 16:18 |
|
pianohacker |
en-US, not en-UK, slef :) |
| 16:18 |
|
slef |
Ich hasse es |
| 16:18 |
|
pianohacker |
Or is that en-GB ? |
| 16:18 |
|
slef |
pianohacker: I didn't know the ukraine... drat |
| 16:19 |
|
wizzyrea |
lul... Monday morning en-US language failure. *phew* |
| 16:21 |
|
rhcl |
come on Liz, just speak American. |
| 16:22 |
|
wizzyrea |
I do have a regionless US dialect. I'm from the midwest |
| 16:22 |
|
wizzyrea |
:) |
| 16:23 |
|
wizzyrea |
Eye Speek Amuricahn. |
| 16:23 |
|
wizzyrea |
>.< |
| 16:23 |
|
jdavidb |
whut meks yawl thank Texsuns tawk funny? |
| 16:23 |
|
rhcl |
Is there a un-AM ? Maybe Armenian has that already? |
| 16:24 |
|
rhcl |
sed s/en/un |
| 16:24 |
|
pianohacker |
jdavidb: Mostly the fact that a good quarter of the people in my small Colorado town have a texan accent for no apparent reason |
| 16:24 |
|
wizzyrea |
proximity. |
| 16:25 |
|
jdavidb |
That wannabe redneck that got chased out of DC recently has the same disease, pianohacker. He's no more Texan than he is Martian. |
| 16:25 |
|
pianohacker |
I have read about his Yale education and whatnot, yes |
| 16:25 |
|
jdavidb |
I got told in college *not* to take any foreign languages--I had enough trouble passing English. |
| 16:25 |
|
rhcl |
He didn't get chased out, his quantum expired. |
| 16:26 |
|
rhcl |
Compiler design class was really interesting way back when. |
| 16:26 |
|
jdavidb |
rhcl: He got chased out. We on the National Mall that day were singing "Kiss Him Goodbye" as the chopper went away. |
| 16:27 |
|
pianohacker |
Wow |
| 16:27 |
|
rhcl |
Well my chopper is waiting to take me to install a telephone. |
| 16:28 |
|
pianohacker |
rhcl: Parsing in general still is; one of the more mind-bending areas of computer science that you still have to deal with with any frequency |
| 16:31 |
|
slef |
about schuster's marc export problem on koha-devel - why don't we just write tag$subtag? |
| 16:52 |
|
gmcharlt |
slef: that syntax works for me |
| 17:27 |
|
wizzyrea |
owen: you're right, I did say "home library" in my description... but after I wrote that I looked at all (that I could find) of the other labels, they were all "Library" |
| 17:27 |
|
wizzyrea |
so went with that. |
| 17:35 |
|
wizzyrea |
lol crap owen's away |
| 17:48 |
|
thd |
gmcharlt, atz: What features in Koha could currently be used by an experienced cataloguer to review the records created or imported by an inexperienced cataloguer before the records become visible to patrons? |
| 17:49 |
|
gmcharlt |
OPAC suppression + lists |
| 17:49 |
|
thd |
How are those invoked? |
| 17:50 |
|
gmcharlt |
manually, for now |
| 17:51 |
|
thd |
What are 'lists'? |
| 17:51 |
|
indradg |
gmcharlt, any plans to make it a part of the regular accessioning workflow that can be defined through any "parameter" ? |
| 17:52 |
|
gmcharlt |
thd: lists of bib records - see 'Lists' in staff-client menu in any 3.x database |
| 17:52 |
|
schuster |
Question - slef and gmcharlt - MARC extraction - sorry I don't know perl well enough to understand "just write tag$subtag?" |
| 17:52 |
|
thd |
thank you gmcharlt |
| 17:53 |
|
slef |
schuster: as in at the moment you write 6509 for 650$9, right? |
| 17:53 |
|
slef |
schuster: so would there be a problem writing simply 650$9? |
| 17:53 |
|
schuster |
Yes but it still output the 650 with the $9. So instead of 6509 try the 650$9 to see if it strips it off? |
| 17:54 |
|
slef |
no, there is a bug (see email) |
| 17:54 |
|
slef |
my fix wasn |
| 17:54 |
|
slef |
my fix was also buggy |
| 17:54 |
|
schuster |
OK just trying to figure out if there was a workaround or try and live with what we have for now. |
| 17:54 |
|
slef |
what I was asking was: would you mind entering them as 650$9? |
| 17:55 |
|
gmcharlt |
indradg: no specific plans that I know of |
| 17:55 |
|
indradg |
gmcharlt, thanks |
| 17:56 |
|
slef |
if not, try (\d*)\D?(\w) instead of (\d*)(\w) or (\d*?)(\w) |
| 17:56 |
|
slef |
erm, wrong |
| 17:56 |
|
schuster |
I wouldn't mind entering that in the extraction that way it actually made more sense to me. |
| 17:56 |
|
slef |
(\d*)\D?(\w?) |
| 17:56 |
|
slef |
I think I've finally got that right |
| 17:57 |
|
schuster |
Slef that looks like you are swearing at me... LOL sorry don't even know where that would start... I'm an end user more than a programmer. |
| 17:57 |
|
slef |
there's no workaround - it's a bug in the code |
| 17:57 |
|
slef |
can you edit the tools/export.pl file? |
| 17:57 |
|
schuster |
I possibly could do that... let me check what I have. |
| 18:04 |
|
schuster |
/^(\d*)\D?(\w?)?$/; should the second ? come out after the w? or am I on the wrong line? |
| 18:04 |
|
slef |
take the ? out from immediately after the w |
| 18:05 |
|
slef |
so it reads /^(\d*)\D?(\w)?$/; |
| 18:05 |
|
slef |
then that should work if you enter subtags as 650$9 |
| 18:06 |
|
slef |
but still work if you enter a tag like 942 (which was the mistake with the one I emailed) |
| 18:07 |
|
slef |
aside - Getting a lot of spammy followers on twitter today :( |
| 18:16 |
|
schuster |
hmmm I exported 20 records and some got stripped others not. |
| 18:17 |
|
schuster |
Only difference that I can see in the bibs are that the ones that didn't strip from first glance had a . "period" at the end of the heading and left the $9 |
| 18:17 |
|
schuster |
The one without the period stripped the $9. |
| 18:27 |
|
wizzyrea |
slef: what *is* your twitter? |
| 18:27 |
|
gmcharlt |
wizzyrea: in case slef actually plans on going to bed, it's mjray |
| 18:28 |
|
slef |
gmcharlt: it's 7 in the evening |
| 18:29 |
|
wizzyrea |
gmcharlt: ty :) |
| 18:29 |
|
slef |
wizzyrea: http://identi.ca/mjray is more foss-friendly |
| 18:29 |
|
slef |
;-) |
| 18:29 |
|
gmcharlt |
slef: bah, I should know better than to convert TZ in my head |
| 18:29 |
|
slef |
do /ctcp nick time |
| 18:30 |
|
slef |
but thanks for getting the username right |
| 18:30 |
|
gmcharlt |
cool |
| 18:30 |
|
slef |
I didn't manage to get mjray on facebook - by the time I woke up, all good variations had gone |
| 18:30 |
|
slef |
I must set up http://mjr.towers.org.uk/SERVICE redirects like I keep threatening |
| 18:31 |
|
gmcharlt |
slef: e.g., http://mjr.towers.org.uk/facebook ? |
| 18:31 |
|
wizzyrea |
slef: that's great but no one I know uses that lol. And, I can't use tweetdeck with it :) |
| 18:31 |
|
wizzyrea |
but I shall keep it in mind |
| 18:31 |
|
slef |
gmcharlt: that sort of thing |
| 18:31 |
|
thd |
gmcharlt: a default value could be set for 942 $n in some MARC frameworks which would make opac supprtession somewhat automatic. |
| 18:32 |
|
slef |
wizzyrea: there's a few koha and evergreen hackers on them |
| 18:32 |
|
thd |
gmcharlt: What value is required? |
| 18:32 |
|
gmcharlt |
thd: 1 |
| 18:32 |
|
slef |
wizzyrea: does tweetdeck not support OpenMicroBlogging yet? |
| 18:32 |
|
wizzyrea |
I don't think so |
| 18:32 |
|
wizzyrea |
re: slef |
| 18:32 |
|
gmcharlt |
thd: though I think that such defaults get applied only when using the bib editor, not when importing records |
| 18:32 |
|
slef |
wizzyrea: there's a network of compatible sites... and then there's twitter |
| 18:32 |
|
slef |
wizzyrea: twitter is the skype of microblogging :-/ |
| 18:33 |
|
wizzyrea |
slef: ha. interesting that twitter gets all of the attention... what is OMB missing that twitter has? (except a compelling name) |
| 18:33 |
|
thd |
gmcharlt: Just as I had presumed. and of course records would need to be filtered when importing. |
| 18:34 |
|
thd |
s/when/before/ |
| 18:34 |
|
slef |
wizzyrea: being the first to get VC. I think at least one of the OMB companies has investment now, though, so maybe it will change. |
| 18:35 |
|
slef |
wizzyrea: eventually twitter will do an AOL and open up, I think. |
| 18:35 |
|
wizzyrea |
slef: ah. OMB came before twitter or after? |
| 18:35 |
|
wizzyrea |
<- was a latecomer to tweeting, kind of |
| 18:35 |
|
slef |
wizzyrea: not sure. Both existed when I started, too. |
| 18:36 |
|
wizzyrea |
slef: the first time I used twitter I created my account and it crashed 5 minutes later, LOL, it's a lot better now |
| 18:37 |
|
slef |
wizzyrea: ah, the twitter fail whale, OMB's greatest recruiting sargeant :) |
| 18:37 |
|
slef |
being able to use IM clients to update it is quite cool too :) |
| 18:37 |
|
gmcharlt |
to say nothing of RoR's second-worst anti-example |
| 18:38 |
|
wizzyrea |
slef: you can do that with twitter ^.^ |
| 18:38 |
|
wizzyrea |
slef: you are too fun to argue with |
| 18:38 |
|
wizzyrea |
slef: i must stop |
| 18:38 |
|
slef |
wizzyrea: twitter has no XMPP does it? |
| 18:38 |
|
slef |
schuster: sorry, overlooked that. rereading the export.pl |
| 18:39 |
|
wizzyrea |
slef http://blog.twitter.com/2008/0[…]ng-from-fire.html |
| 18:39 |
|
slef |
schuster: I can't see any reason for that :-( |
| 18:39 |
|
wizzyrea |
since july 08 |
| 18:40 |
|
slef |
wizzyrea: only a special real-time feed for services, not service for users |
| 18:40 |
|
slef |
wizzyrea: unless I've misread it |
| 18:41 |
|
wizzyrea |
slef: yea, idk, I'm not really a twitter expert |
| 18:41 |
|
wizzyrea |
slef: I kind of use it sometimes (hehe) and I have enough distracting streams of input ^.^ |
| 18:56 |
|
schuster |
slef - /^(\d*)\D?(\w)?$/; if I do this it strips the 9 out of the first 650 but leaves the rest.. |
| 19:17 |
|
slef |
schuster: hrm, looking again (sorry, was distracted by getting to inboxzero :) ) |
| 19:19 |
|
slef |
schuster: first 650 in the record or first 650 in the batch? |
| 19:22 |
|
slef |
if first 650 in the record, I think I can see why... export.pl calls MARC::Record::field() which returns "just the first matching tag" if called in a scalar context |
| 19:24 |
|
slef |
try replacing the line after "if( $subfield ) {" with "map { $_->delete_subfields($subfield); } ($record->field($field)); " |
| 19:24 |
|
slef |
I'll be surprised and impressed with myself if that works. |
| 19:29 |
|
schuster |
replace if( $subfield ) { - the section that starts like this with what you have noted here? |
| 19:29 |
|
thd |
slef, wizzyrea: have you tried identi.ca , http://identi.ca/, or Laconica, http://laconi.ca/trac/ , in any form? |
| 19:30 |
|
slef |
thd: http://identi.ca/mjray |
| 19:30 |
|
slef |
schuster: the line after that... |
| 19:30 |
|
slef |
schuster: the line that included delete_subfields |
| 19:31 |
|
slef |
schuster: with the map command I wrote above. |
| 19:36 |
|
thd |
slef: Very nice. I have only recently started to appreciate some actually useful purposes for micro-blogging. |
| 19:37 |
|
thd |
slef: Yours is a fine example. |
| 19:37 |
|
chris |
im on identica too, the thing is it can post to twitter too wizzyrea |
| 19:38 |
|
slef |
and facebook and probably other stuff if I configured it right |
| 19:38 |
|
chris |
(like i just did) |
| 19:40 |
|
gmcharlt |
morning, chris |
| 19:44 |
|
gmcharlt |
hi moodaepo |
| 19:45 |
|
wizzyrea |
all right, you win |
| 19:45 |
|
wizzyrea |
http://identi.ca/wizzyrea/ |
| 19:46 |
|
chris |
right, kahu feed and dressed, time for me to catch th ebus to work |
| 19:46 |
|
chris |
bb in 40 mins or so |
| 19:46 |
|
wizzyrea |
chris: have a lovely commute :) |
| 19:46 |
|
chris |
its the only time i get to read books anymore :) |
| 19:48 |
|
schuster |
Hmmm I probably did something wrong as it got an error... near "" with "map" |
| 19:48 |
|
schuster |
I'm going to restore my "old" version that I setup before I started playing with it. |
| 19:51 |
|
moodaepo |
gmcharlt: hey |
| 19:54 |
|
thd |
What free software solution exists to control user bandwidth allocation on an open wireless network using something like OpenWRT? |
| 19:56 |
|
thd |
Would this not be a problem for libraries such as HLT, chris? |
| 19:57 |
|
thd |
I have only found non-free implementations such as http://www.chillifire.net/ |
| 20:09 |
|
hdl_laptop |
gmcharlt: working on facet search with zebra. |
| 20:10 |
|
hdl_laptop |
I have a question about koha configuration file : |
| 20:10 |
|
hdl_laptop |
it seems that have retrieval facility on prevent us from using zebra::facets |
| 20:11 |
|
hdl_laptop |
elements. |
| 20:11 |
|
hdl_laptop |
But I can see no reason why we should expose data in various formats internally. |
| 20:12 |
|
hdl_laptop |
In my opinion, retrieval facilities should be on public servers, not on internal. |
| 20:12 |
|
hdl_laptop |
Do you have any reason for that ? |
| 20:14 |
|
gmcharlt |
hdl_laptop: as a first step, I don't think it's a big deal to expose zebra::facets |
| 20:20 |
|
thd |
answering my own previous question: the most recent versions of chillispot seem to have fixed user bandwidth problems. |
| 20:20 |
|
owen |
What is the use of the modification log if the contents look like "UPDATE borrowers SET firstname=?, gonenoaddress=?, categorycode=?, othernames=?, B_address=?, contactnote=?, dateofbirth=?, email=?, altcontactaddress2=?," etc. |
| 20:21 |
|
thd |
s/bandwidth/bandwidth control/ |
| 20:24 |
|
hdl_laptop |
owen : good question indeed. |
| 20:24 |
|
hdl_laptop |
should rather be a display of %$databorrower. |
| 20:26 |
|
hdl_laptop |
logaction("MEMBERS", "MODIFY", $data{'borrowernumber'}, "$query (executed w/ arg: ".join (" ",@params).")") |
| 20:26 |
|
hdl_laptop |
if C4::Context->preference("BorrowersLog"); |
| 20:26 |
|
hdl_laptop |
like this |
| 20:27 |
|
hdl_laptop |
can you test and send the patch pls ? |
| 20:29 |
|
hdl_laptop |
mmm do we really need $query ? I think so... If we donot have this, then how can we use the values ? |
| 20:29 |
|
gmcharlt |
hdl_laptop: I think old values => new values as hash or JSON is fine |
| 20:30 |
|
hdl_laptop |
ModMember doesnot know anything of "oldvalues". |
| 20:31 |
|
hdl_laptop |
we can dump hash as json provided json is a requirement now for koha. |
| 20:33 |
|
gmcharlt |
I don't think JSON is requirement per se |
| 20:38 |
|
chris |
back |
| 20:39 |
|
chris |
thd: you can do it by putting the wireless machines on a subnet |
| 20:40 |
|
gmcharlt |
gmcharlt: but JSON or a Data::Dumper output would have the advantage of making action_log data actionable |
| 20:40 |
|
chris |
then using your router to handle it |
| 20:40 |
|
chris |
hlt run an openbsd box as their router/gateway |
| 20:41 |
|
chris |
they also have the benefit of one of nz's networking guru's looking after said box |
| 20:41 |
|
moodaepo |
thd: http://coova.org/wiki/index.php/CoovaChilli |
| 20:47 |
|
chris |
hmm mono lib is persistent, send the same message twice a day |
| 20:50 |
|
chris |
slef: still awake? |
| 20:50 |
|
chris |
http://www.nabble.com/Hide-bib[…]95.html#a24249495 |
| 20:50 |
|
chris |
someone else wants your hidden records feature too |
| 20:51 |
|
thd |
chris: The firewall rules need to be carefully designed for the WiFi subnet. |
| 20:52 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 20:52 |
|
chris |
so the answer is, hlt have the skills to do it themselves, so dont use some other system |
| 21:17 |
|
slef |
chris: yep. was at the beach. |
| 21:18 |
|
slef |
chris: *$£*$(£*$( nabble and its javascript requirement |
| 21:18 |
|
chris |
i can find it in the main archive if you want |
| 21:18 |
|
slef |
got it at gmane |
| 21:18 |
|
slef |
ta |
| 21:20 |
|
slef |
seems to be only one article, no thread? |
| 21:21 |
|
chris |
yep, just came through |
| 21:21 |
|
slef |
serendipity |
| 21:21 |
|
chris |
*nod* |
| 21:31 |
|
thd |
moodaepo: Coova appears not to have per user bandwidth control yet. |
| 21:39 |
|
moodaepo |
thd: I really didn't look too hard : ) although it was suggested by a colleague that with bandwidth control if there are no other users the few who are using it should be allowed to use it even if they go over. |
| 21:40 |
|
thd |
moodaepo: The problem is that a few high bandwidth service such as streaming media can spoil the fun for the rest of the users in the library. |
| 21:41 |
|
thd |
oh let me write that correctly |
| 21:41 |
|
thd |
moodaepo: The problem is that a few users of high bandwidth service such as streaming media can spoil the fun for the rest of the users in the library. |
| 21:46 |
|
moodaepo |
true true...but it would be nice if whatever system you find/setup it can make available an averaged amount of current bandwidth among current users at any given time, instead of 1000mb/hr or some preset rigid amount. |
| 21:46 |
|
moodaepo |
thd: then you don't really care what type of traffic they are using keeping true to an open library mantra : ) |
| 21:47 |
|
chris |
hey there jo, sad day today eh |
| 21:47 |
|
chris |
sad but nice too |
| 21:48 |
|
thd |
moodaepo: Exactly, I have been asked to provide an answer but I am not going to recommend restricting use of any particular services. |
| 21:50 |
|
Jo |
Hiya Chris |
| 21:50 |
|
Jo |
yep - sad but nice. |
| 21:50 |
|
thd |
moodaepo: ChilliFire may not really be very openly developed but it is in fact GPL and appears as if it would be an easy solution for a library to implement. |
| 21:51 |
|
Jo |
She has been so happy for the last month - like a huge weight has been lifted off her shoulders. |
| 21:52 |
|
Jo |
For those who don't know, Rosalie Blake, the librarian who championed and sponsored and made the decision to develop Koha is retiring today, after 30 years of service to public libraries. |
| 21:52 |
|
thd |
chris: The developers of the ChilliFire version of ChilliSpot are based in NZ, http://www.chillifire.net/about.php . |
| 21:53 |
|
moodaepo |
thd: yea I saw this comment "For non-commercial users Chillifire is free of charge; a non-commercial user is defined as a user with only one deployed router." |
| 21:53 |
|
moodaepo |
here > http://www.howtoforge.com/open[…]l-payment-gateway || http://www.howtoforge.com/wireless_hotspot_howto |
| 21:55 |
|
thd |
moodaepo: The software is freely available but if you provide fee based access to WiFi then there is a remote network service which charges fees for commercial use. |
| 22:12 |
|
hdl_laptop |
slef: still around ? |
| 22:12 |
|
hdl_laptop |
If yes then you might want to take a look at OpacSuppresion syspref |
| 22:12 |
|
hdl_laptop |
and the OpacSuppression thread on koha-devel list. |
| 22:14 |
|
hdl_laptop |
owen opac suppression can be a start for hiding some collection at OPAC is it not ? |
| 22:14 |
|
hdl_laptop |
But it hides regardless of the borrower status or category |
| 22:15 |
|
slef |
hdl_laptop: intermittently |
| 22:16 |
|
hdl_laptop |
have you seen ? |
| 22:17 |
|
hdl_laptop |
I was wrong in the name. |
| 22:17 |
|
slef |
yep |
| 22:17 |
|
hdl_laptop |
But I knew something existed there. |
| 22:17 |
|
slef |
I'll look at it. Thanks! |
| 22:17 |
|
hdl_laptop |
It really IS basic 0|1 but maybe it is enough for your needs. |
| 22:19 |
|
hdl_laptop |
If it meets your requirements, or plan improvements you may want to tell Michal Leung |
| 01:17 |
|
wizzyrea-home |
so who wants to explain (or point me to the explanation of) adding sysprefs? |
| 01:18 |
|
chris |
right |
| 01:18 |
|
chris |
there are a few things you need to do |
| 01:18 |
|
chris |
the first one, is you can use the admin interface to add one to your test koha, then write the code to use it |
| 01:18 |
|
chris |
thats phase 1 |
| 01:19 |
|
wizzyrea-home |
okies |
| 01:19 |
|
chris |
once you have it working |
| 01:19 |
|
chris |
or even before then |
| 01:20 |
|
chris |
http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]%3Adbrevs%3Astart |
| 01:20 |
|
chris |
you want to add it to this page |
| 01:20 |
|
wizzyrea-home |
Ah, ok |
| 01:21 |
|
wizzyrea-home |
in your opinion, what's a simple one that would be a decent example? |
| 01:21 |
|
chris |
(anything that involves a database change, like a new syspref, will mean the version number needs to go up) |
| 01:21 |
|
wizzyrea-home |
(I wondered how that worked) |
| 01:22 |
|
wizzyrea-home |
I'm thinking of one that is kind of like the OPAC Nav syspref, a text entry box |
| 01:22 |
|
chris |
when you are ready to submit your patch (ie you have your code written to use your new syspref) |
| 01:22 |
|
chris |
there are a few files you need to change |
| 01:23 |
|
chris |
kohaversion.pl is one, that needs to have the new version number |
| 01:23 |
|
chris |
the next one is |
| 01:24 |
|
chris |
installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl |
| 01:24 |
|
wizzyrea-home |
slightly dumb question: what if your next number is already taken? |
| 01:24 |
|
wizzyrea-home |
go up one more? or will it be fixed before inclusion? |
| 01:24 |
|
chris |
galen will fix it before inclusion |
| 01:24 |
|
wizzyrea-home |
ok i see |
| 01:25 |
|
chris |
if he needs to |
| 01:25 |
|
chris |
installer/data/mysql/en/mandatory/sysprefs.sql |
| 01:25 |
|
chris |
will need to be edited too |
| 01:25 |
|
wizzyrea-home |
ah to add the new syspref to the install, right? |
| 01:25 |
|
chris |
*nod* |
| 01:26 |
|
chris |
and finally |
| 01:26 |
|
chris |
admin/systempreferences.pl |
| 01:26 |
|
chris |
to tell it which tab to show the syspref under |
| 01:27 |
|
wizzyrea-home |
ok I think I kind of see the framework, sort of |
| 01:27 |
|
wizzyrea-home |
i'm sure I"ll hose lots of things working this out ^.^ |
| 01:27 |
|
chris |
the most important thing is to get the code actually using it going first |
| 01:28 |
|
chris |
once you have that, we can talk you through updating hte rest of the things |
| 01:28 |
|
wizzyrea-home |
yea, the rest is really more like frosting on the cake :P |
| 01:28 |
|
wizzyrea-home |
important, but not so good if you don't have cake |
| 01:29 |
|
wizzyrea-home |
er, maybe will... i'm a terrible nub. |
| 01:29 |
|
chris |
heh |
| 01:30 |
|
wizzyrea-home |
anyway, ty much for the explanation |
| 01:30 |
|
chris |
no worries |
| 01:31 |
|
chris |
when you get ready to do the kohaversion etc |
| 01:31 |
|
chris |
jump on and we can talk you through it |
| 01:31 |
|
wizzyrea-home |
k... it may be a while |
| 01:32 |
|
wizzyrea-home |
<- a good cook but perlcake... a new recipe |
| 01:32 |
|
chris |
its all good |
| 01:32 |
|
wizzyrea-home |
that actually sounds kind of good. |
| 01:32 |
|
chris |
it only gets easier |
| 01:37 |
|
chris |
ok, gotta go grab something to eat, bbiab |
| 03:17 |
|
Amit |
hi #koha morning |
| 03:17 |
|
chris |
hi amit |
| 03:17 |
|
Amit |
chris: my patch is not summit |
| 03:17 |
|
chris |
not yet |
| 03:18 |
|
Amit |
no |
| 03:18 |
|
chris |
but it hasnt be rejected either, or you would have got email |
| 03:18 |
|
chris |
can't stay away wizzyrea-home ? |
| 03:18 |
|
Amit |
no i have not receive any mail |
| 03:18 |
|
wizzyrea-home |
omg, no, I have serious kiwi love... 1s for link |
| 03:18 |
|
Amit |
hi wizzyrea-home |
| 03:18 |
|
wizzyrea-home |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v[…]e=player_embedded |
| 03:18 |
|
wizzyrea-home |
I lol |
| 03:18 |
|
wizzyrea-home |
'much |
| 03:19 |
|
wizzyrea-home |
"Has there ever been a kiwi that has sounded mean or ominous? They're the most adorable English speakers in the world." |
| 03:19 |
|
wizzyrea-home |
truth :) |
| 03:19 |
|
chris |
hehe |
| 03:20 |
|
Amit |
chris: my patch date is 30 june |
| 03:20 |
|
Amit |
chris: http://lists.koha.org/pipermai[…]-June/003840.html |
| 03:21 |
|
chris |
yes i saw it, it will be in the queue of ones for galen to check |
| 03:21 |
|
Amit |
hmm i think date issue |
| 03:21 |
|
Amit |
this is my system generated date |
| 03:22 |
|
chris |
wizzyrea-home: seen this one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdVHZwI8pcA |
| 03:23 |
|
wizzyrea-home |
do you know what I didn't even notice? |
| 03:24 |
|
wizzyrea-home |
about the safety vid? |
| 03:24 |
|
chris |
they werent wearing clothes? |
| 03:24 |
|
wizzyrea-home |
(they aren't wearing many clothes) |
| 03:24 |
|
chris |
there are a whole series of them |
| 03:24 |
|
chris |
play on tv here |
| 03:25 |
|
wizzyrea-home |
that is effing hilarious |
| 03:25 |
|
wizzyrea-home |
this is me "hey, there's something funny about her behi... OMG!" |
| 03:25 |
|
chris |
hehe |
| 03:26 |
|
chris |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeHTziiFVx0 <--- this one is a classic |
| 03:26 |
|
wizzyrea-home |
omg falwell |
| 03:26 |
|
wizzyrea-home |
*gag* |
| 03:27 |
|
chris |
yeah, he got totally owned |
| 03:28 |
|
wizzyrea-home |
that is brilliant lol |
| 03:31 |
|
chris |
he was a pretty gifted speaker |
| 03:32 |
|
wizzyrea-home |
wow pwnt |
| 03:43 |
|
brendan |
heya amit |
| 03:43 |
|
Amit |
heya brendan |
| 03:43 |
|
brendan |
good evening chris, wizzyrea-home |
| 03:49 |
|
wizzyrea-home |
heya brendan |
| 03:50 |
|
Amit |
hi <wizzyrea-home> |
| 03:50 |
|
wizzyrea-home |
yo yo :) |
| 03:52 |
|
Amit |
yo yo means? |
| 04:06 |
|
wizzyrea-home |
hi :) |
| 04:06 |
|
wizzyrea-home |
or a small wooden object that goes up and down on a string, depending on your usage (it's a toy) but as I used it, it's slang for hi |
| 04:09 |
|
Amit |
l |
| 04:09 |
|
Amit |
hi sab |
| 05:24 |
|
wizzyrea-home |
alright, gnite/g'day ttyl :) |
| 06:15 |
|
ghghg |
hello |
| 06:15 |
|
ghghg |
anyone who can answer my question regarding KOHA>? |
| 06:16 |
|
ron |
ask. don't ask to ask. |
| 06:16 |
|
ghghg |
okay |
| 06:16 |
|
ghghg |
how can i setup KOHA in a webhost |
| 06:17 |
|
ghghg |
since we were hosted |
| 06:17 |
|
ghghg |
and it does not support installation |
| 06:17 |
|
ghghg |
of external software |
| 06:17 |
|
ron |
that depends on your hosting environment |
| 06:17 |
|
ron |
but I'm guessing you're not going to have much success with that restriction |
| 06:17 |
|
Amit |
hi ghghg |
| 06:17 |
|
ron |
you'll likely need a vps |
| 06:18 |
|
ron |
ah, amit is the guru |
| 06:18 |
|
ghghg |
ah okay |
| 06:18 |
|
Amit |
hi ron |
| 06:18 |
|
ron |
howdy amit. over to you. :) |
| 06:18 |
|
Amit |
k |
| 06:18 |
|
Amit |
tell ghghg what is your problem |
| 06:18 |
|
ghghg |
whoa! |
| 06:19 |
|
ghghg |
so i guess that would be another story (the VPS) |
| 06:20 |
|
ghghg |
it means there is nothing i can do with our present hosting service |
| 06:20 |
|
ghghg |
huh! |
| 06:20 |
|
Amit |
k |
| 07:11 |
|
Amit |
hi kf, kivutar |
| 07:11 |
|
Kivutar |
hello all :) |
| 07:11 |
|
kf |
hi all :) |
| 08:10 |
|
chris |
evening |
| 08:40 |
|
ron |
howdy chris, how's life? |
| 08:44 |
|
chris |
not too bad, how bout you? |
| 08:46 |
|
ron |
all good |
| 08:46 |
|
ron |
the install and config of koha for the prison went smoothly, once we went with the dev release |
| 08:46 |
|
ron |
it'll go live tomorrow |
| 08:47 |
|
paul_p |
hello ppl |
| 08:48 |
|
paul_p |
chris: lomu won't just play in France. He will play in ... Marseille (3rd division) |
| 08:49 |
|
chris |
yep :) they hope to get to 2nd division |
| 08:50 |
|
paul_p |
+ http://www.sport24.com/rugby/x[…]-a-craque-276140/ => Bastareaud in psychiatric hospital |
| 08:50 |
|
chris |
ron: w00t excellent news |
| 08:50 |
|
chris |
paul_p: yes i saw that, very sad, i new something weird was happening, his story didnt make sense |
| 08:51 |
|
chris |
s/new/knew/ |
| 08:53 |
|
chris |
paul_p: does the Marseille team play near your house? |
| 08:53 |
|
chris |
but i think that was for football |
| 08:53 |
|
paul_p |
chris: to say the truth => I don't know at all ! Marseille is a soccer city... noone is interested in Rugby. |
| 08:53 |
|
chris |
*nod* |
| 08:54 |
|
paul_p |
when France plays in the large stadium, supporters comes from south-west ! |
| 08:54 |
|
chris |
i think with lomu playing you might get some fans come to visit to see him play |
| 08:54 |
|
chris |
he wont be anywhere near as good as 95 |
| 08:54 |
|
chris |
but in 3rd division ... i think he will still be pretty good |
| 09:00 |
|
chris |
ohh 2 ex all blacks |
| 09:00 |
|
chris |
isitola maka also |
| 09:03 |
|
chris |
http://marseillevitrollesrugby.com/ |
| 09:06 |
|
chris |
and then an nz vs france test in marseille too |
| 09:07 |
|
chris |
nz has never won in marseille |
| 10:14 |
|
|Lupin| |
hello everybody ! |
| 11:26 |
|
Amit |
hi davi |
| 11:29 |
|
davi |
hi Amit |
| 11:29 |
|
gmcharlt |
hi Amit, davi |
| 11:29 |
|
Amit |
hi galen |
| 11:29 |
|
davi |
hi gmcharlt |
| 11:29 |
|
Amit |
galen: i have summit patch but no response |
| 11:29 |
|
davi |
s/gmcharlt/galen/g |
| 11:30 |
|
gmcharlt |
Amit: I've been testing it - should have comments later today |
| 11:31 |
|
Amit |
ok |
| 11:32 |
|
Amit |
thanks |
| 11:47 |
|
|Lupin| |
back |
| 11:48 |
|
Amit |
hi Lupin |
| 11:57 |
|
|Lupin| |
hi Amit |
