| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 12:04 |
|
ebegin |
what is the best git tutorial you ever read? :) |
| 12:45 |
|
schuster |
Morning all! |
| 12:46 |
|
jwagner |
Morning schuster! |
| 13:12 |
|
hdl_laptop |
ebegin: about git.... |
| 13:12 |
|
hdl_laptop |
http://delicious.com/laurenthdl/git |
| 13:12 |
|
ebegin |
great! merci! |
| 14:29 |
|
wizzyrea |
hdl: thanks for the git tips, and for the help a couple of days ago was just what I needed to know |
| 14:51 |
|
rhcl |
Hi Paul |
| 17:43 |
|
ebegin |
what are the differences between 3.00.01 stable, stable-update , .005? |
| 17:44 |
|
gmcharlt |
hdl learning how to tag releases :) |
| 17:44 |
|
gmcharlt |
seriously, v3.00.01-stable_update is the true tag for 3.0.1 |
| 17:45 |
|
gmcharlt |
v3.00.01.005 amounts to the beta for 3.0.1 |
| 17:45 |
|
gmcharlt |
v3.00.01-stable is essentially an oops |
| 17:45 |
|
ebegin |
:) |
| 17:46 |
|
ebegin |
thanks |
| 17:57 |
|
pianohacker |
I wonder if there's a name for the feeling of discovering that 12-point Times New Roman is much smaller than 12-point DejaVu Serif when trying to hit three pages on an essay |
| 18:08 |
|
gmcharlt |
pianohacker: use longer words |
| 18:08 |
|
pianohacker |
heh |
| 18:13 |
|
ebegin |
I'm looking for the page telling how to upgrade from a version to another when using the single install mode. Is thatan existing page? :) |
| 18:15 |
|
gmcharlt |
perl Makefile.PL --prev-install-log /path/to/koha-install-log |
| 18:15 |
|
gmcharlt |
make |
| 18:15 |
|
gmcharlt |
make test |
| 18:15 |
|
gmcharlt |
sudo make upgrade |
| 18:16 |
|
ebegin |
thanks. I'll try to find a place to write that down on the wiki... |
| 18:17 |
|
ebegin |
I guess that it's the same for the standard install? |
| 18:17 |
|
ebegin |
Is there any performance drawback when we use the dev mode? |
| 18:18 |
|
atz |
ebegin: no, it's the same code |
| 18:19 |
|
ebegin |
so their notsignificant hit incured by the symbolic links? |
| 18:27 |
|
ebegin |
Does the upgrade process can go from 3.00.00 to the soon to come 3.00.02 or it is suggested to do the upgrades one after the other? |
| 18:42 |
|
gmcharlt |
the upgrade should be able to handle 3.0.0 -> 3.0.2 directly |
| 18:45 |
|
pianohacker |
brb |
| 18:50 |
|
wizzyrea |
oh poor pianohacker |
| 18:53 |
|
gmcharlt |
well, now that he's away, we can go ahead and talk about the *reams* of writing one has to do *after* one leaves school ;) |
| 18:58 |
|
wizzyrea |
gmcharlt: *swoon* over the messaging stuff |
| 18:58 |
|
wizzyrea |
just so you know, you won't get any hassles about it (in terms of if we find any bugs) until next week |
| 18:58 |
|
wizzyrea |
there are a couple of template changes I might suggest/make, but so far <super awesome thumbs up> |
| 18:58 |
|
gmcharlt |
you mean nobody is devoting their weekend to testing it? ;) |
| 18:59 |
|
wizzyrea |
lol, it's the 'give poor gmcharlt a break from one small source of hassle for a couple of days' sentiment |
| 19:47 |
|
chris |
morning |
| 19:47 |
|
ebegin |
hi chris! |
| 19:48 |
|
ebegin |
What a time to get out of bed. It's mid afternoon over here :) |
| 19:50 |
|
chris |
im not out of bed, im typing quietly on the laptop so as to not wake the rest of the family early on saturday morning :) |
| 19:55 |
|
rhcl |
Hi Chris |
| 20:08 |
|
thd |
Are any tables using authorised_value filled as part of the installation process? |
| 20:11 |
|
ebegin |
Framework are using them |
| 20:12 |
|
thd |
ebegin: yes, but for the frameworks to use them they must be populated |
| 20:12 |
|
thd |
ebegin: What populates them on installation? |
| 20:13 |
|
ebegin |
The default Framework is using authorized_value |
| 20:14 |
|
thd |
ebegin: The authorised_value identifies a particular authorised value list. How are the lists populated on installation? |
| 20:18 |
|
ebegin |
They are populated by the auth_val.sql file located in the <koha_installer>/installer/data/mysql/en/optional dir |
| 20:19 |
|
ebegin |
This file can be choosen or not during the web installer, one of the optional component |
| 20:20 |
|
thd |
ebegin: Have you done any UNIMARC installations? |
| 20:22 |
|
ebegin |
nope. the unimarc version of this file should be in data/mysql/fr-FR/1-Obligatoire/authorised_values.sql |
| 20:22 |
|
ebegin |
well, the french one, though |
| 20:23 |
|
thd |
ebegin: Yet there is no such file that I found in git |
| 20:25 |
|
gmcharlt |
installer/data/mysql/fr-FR/marcflavour/unimarc_lecture_pub/Obligatoire/framework_DEFAULT.sql |
| 20:25 |
|
ebegin |
http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]ec275e00a;hb=HEAD |
| 20:30 |
|
ebegin |
thd, note that this is in the installer, not the installed version. |
| 20:33 |
|
thd |
gmcharlt, ebegin: thank you. There is nothing for authorised_values in the unimarc_complet framework. |
| 20:37 |
|
thd |
the unimarc_complet framework calls some authorised_value lists which are never populated unless the user adds them |
| 20:37 |
|
thd |
fredericd: are you there? |
| 20:39 |
|
ebegin |
thd: 995$o uses the ETAT authorised_value |
| 20:40 |
|
fredericd |
thd: yes |
| 20:40 |
|
thd |
fredericd: the unimarc_complet framework calls some authorised_value lists which are never populated unless the user adds them |
| 20:40 |
|
fredericd |
I'm afraid you're correct |
| 20:40 |
|
thd |
fredericd: We should fix that |
| 20:41 |
|
fredericd |
UNIMARC frameword and linked data (authorised values) are not at the same level as MARC21 framrwork |
| 20:42 |
|
thd |
I also noticed some value builder scripts which are not being called in any French UNIMARC framework |
| 20:42 |
|
ebegin |
Aren't authorised_value added by by the Web Install, IF the user selects it? |
| 20:42 |
|
thd |
ebegin: yes, but none are added for unimarc_complet |
| 20:43 |
|
fredericd |
ebegin: There is no .sql file for authorized values |
| 20:43 |
|
fredericd |
You have to populate them by hand |
| 20:44 |
|
gmcharlt |
fredericd: is that desired by your users for some reason? |
| 20:45 |
|
thd |
fredericd: gmcharlt found that for unimarc_lecture_pub there is some code to add a few authorised value lists as part of the default bibliographic framework SQL file |
| 20:45 |
|
fredericd |
gmcharlt: I wouldn't say that. We have to add those values for each installation. This could be seen has a feature for some authorized values list like ETAT (french version of NOTFORLOAN) |
| 20:46 |
|
fredericd |
But for author function, it should be added to default installation |
| 20:46 |
|
ebegin |
fredericd, there is one in my installer/data/mysql/fr-FR/1-Obligatoire directory... weird... don't you have it? authorised_values.sql |
| 20:47 |
|
thd |
gmcharlt: I think it reflected the thinking of paul at one time that configuration was largely a task for the librarian |
| 20:47 |
|
thd |
gmcharlt: I do not think that paul believes that should be quite so true any longer |
| 20:48 |
|
fredericd |
thd: You're correct. |
| 20:49 |
|
fredericd |
/installer/data/mysql/en/marcflavour/unimarc is also obsolete and should be removed |
| 20:49 |
|
gmcharlt |
as the number of Koha's config options grows, the need for well-chosen defaults increases |
| 20:49 |
|
thd |
gmcharlt: actually, until mid 2006 the default French UNIMARC installation did much more for the user by default than MARC 21 but MARC 21 caught up |
| 20:55 |
|
thd |
fredericd: does ETAT mean the 'state' of the loan? |
| 20:59 |
|
ebegin |
thd, in the file, the different value of the ETAT are the same than the NOT_LOAN auth value of MARC |
| 21:02 |
|
thd |
ebegin: In which file? |
| 21:03 |
|
ebegin |
the authorised_value.sql file that, for an unknown reason, is on my machine but not in displayed in git.koha.org, even if I cloned it this morning... :-/ |
| 21:03 |
|
fredericd |
It's not populated by web installer. |
| 21:04 |
|
fredericd |
Some fields in MARC21 framework have been linked to authorised value lists which have have no UNIMARC equivalent |
| 21:05 |
|
fredericd |
I suppose that MARC21 'team' has introduced new item-level functionnalities without coordination with UNIMARC 'team' |
| 21:06 |
|
chris |
i think the teams should play football and the winner becomes the ultimate MARC champion |
| 21:06 |
|
ebegin |
Oh! the authorised_value was removed sint 3.00.01 was released... That why I have it |
| 21:06 |
|
fredericd |
Those fields-authosied values: SUGGEST, LOST, CCODE, DAMAGED, WITHDRAWN, NOT_LOAN |
| 21:07 |
|
ebegin |
s/sint/since |
| 21:07 |
|
fredericd |
footbal vs soccer |
| 21:07 |
|
fredericd |
I don't even know how to spell football |
| 21:08 |
|
ebegin |
Try hockey, it's simpler :) |
| 21:11 |
|
thd |
we need better coordination or documentation for programmers |
| 21:12 |
|
chris |
both |
| 21:12 |
|
chris |
always |
| 21:12 |
|
chris |
for everything |
| 21:12 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 21:14 |
|
fredericd |
team spirit rather than individualism :) |
| 21:14 |
|
fredericd |
good night! |
| 21:15 |
|
chris |
have a good weekend fredericd |
| 21:15 |
|
ebegin |
bye fred |
| 21:19 |
|
thd |
good night fredericd |
| 21:20 |
|
chris |
so heres a leftfield idea, the linuxconf.au people have a neat idea where they run a partners/wives/husbands/kids programme alongside the conference programme |
| 21:20 |
|
pianohacker |
That sounds interesting. What's involved? |
| 21:20 |
|
chris |
i was thinking if we do do kohacon10 in NZ that we should organise the same kinda thing |
| 21:21 |
|
wizzyrea |
chris: best idea ever |
| 21:21 |
|
chris |
so that if you are gonna come all the way, bring the family |
| 21:21 |
|
gmcharlt |
chris++ |
| 21:22 |
|
gmcharlt |
although my wife would just join the main program :) |
| 21:22 |
|
chris |
that works too :) |
| 21:22 |
|
gmcharlt |
btw, I just asked her, and she fully supports KohaCon10 in NZ :) |
| 21:23 |
|
chris |
at linuxconf.au 2006 in dunedin, they had organised things like buses to go visit the seal colony and albatross colony |
| 21:23 |
|
chris |
those kinda things |
| 21:23 |
|
wizzyrea |
for the record, so does Mr. Wizzyrea and Wizzyrea Jr. |
| 21:23 |
|
wizzyrea |
though 18 hours on a plane with spud doesn't sound so appealing but I'd suffer through for NZ |
| 21:24 |
|
chris |
hehe |
| 21:24 |
|
chris |
the trick is timing the flight |
| 21:24 |
|
chris |
the long one is la to auckland |
| 21:24 |
|
chris |
13 hours |
| 21:24 |
|
brendan |
chris - I propose a bus trip to weta digital! |
| 21:24 |
|
chris |
so try to get one thta takes off at round 7pm |
| 21:25 |
|
chris |
then hopefully spud sleeps the flight |
| 21:25 |
|
chris |
(its worked for us) |
| 21:25 |
|
chris |
brendan: definitely, the weta cave would be on the list |
| 21:25 |
|
wizzyrea |
b rendan ++ |
| 21:25 |
|
wizzyrea |
oh that's genius |
| 21:25 |
|
brendan |
but then I wouldn't be at the conference - I'd be playing with golum |
| 21:25 |
|
chris |
heh |
| 21:27 |
|
chris |
http://www.wotzon.com/eventlis[…]?event_id=5022809 |
| 21:27 |
|
chris |
there's usually something fun going on at the weta cave |
| 21:27 |
|
chris |
ppl can do the walking tour of rivendell too, if they are lotr fans |
| 21:28 |
|
brendan |
nice -- ok I already got my tickets and the bags are packed ! |
| 21:28 |
|
chris |
heh |
| 21:30 |
|
wizzyrea |
LOL |
| 21:32 |
|
chris |
http://www.penguinsvisiting.or[…]artners_programme |
| 21:32 |
|
chris |
seeings i work with a bunch of people organising this |
| 21:32 |
|
chris |
ill probably copy lots of their ideas :) |
| 21:36 |
|
chris |
jo from hlt is keen to help out with organisational ideas, i might talk to her about us writing a proposal up |
| 22:04 |
|
rhcl |
Weekend! |
| 23:03 |
|
pianohacker |
'night |
| 09:48 |
|
chris |
hi hdl_laptop |
| 09:48 |
|
hdl_laptop |
hi chris |
| 11:20 |
|
eiro |
ok .. je vire la backup sauvage d'averroes sur descartes |
| 11:20 |
|
eiro |
ca va soulager |
